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"The Inquisition" (what a show) (Thursday, March 12, 2026, Hour 3) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 1: News and analysis now without artificial colors. First thing today
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  Speaker 1: by Joe Thomas on the Talk Media.
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  Speaker 2: Edwere Jeward said, steal me stem you have a day
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  Speaker 2: at least for work.
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  Speaker 3: When the sun comes up, drops a pet of the school.
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  Speaker 4: Then Joe has everything a jam do all the.
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  Speaker 5: Treasures, needs no one that Joe's as smile, he only as.
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  Speaker 6: Let me be. Joe, thank you for letting me be
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  Speaker 6: of service to you this morning.
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  Speaker 7: I want.
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  Speaker 6: And I will verify it is me, not a clone,
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  Speaker 6: not a body double, and I haven't had any extensive
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  Speaker 6: plastic surgery. I just look like this four three four
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  Speaker 6: eight eight two four two one seven. Is the only
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  Speaker 6: thing I like about this Jim Carrey fixation the world
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  Speaker 6: has is that it's keeping the McCarthy is of who's
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  Speaker 6: on the Epstein files to at least a battle for
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  Speaker 6: the headlines out there. Hey, doctor Clark finally got through
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  Speaker 6: to us and got a clear line. So I do
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  Speaker 6: want to hear you out on what you had for us,
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  Speaker 6: and then we'll get our first things on the air here.
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  Speaker 6: So go ahead, Clark, what's on your mind?
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  Speaker 8: Well, let's see back up to property being a condition
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  Speaker 8: of voting rights. Yep, that's the way you paid taxes, right,
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  Speaker 8: And so the founder's intent was for taxpayers being people
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  Speaker 8: to had to say and who was representing them in
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  Speaker 8: the government.
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  Speaker 6: Now it's a cart and the horse thing, because I
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  Speaker 6: don't know if they expanded it under the idea of well,
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  Speaker 6: if we give them the vote, we can tax them
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  Speaker 6: on stuff anyway, you know. Opening the voter rolls also
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  Speaker 6: opened the taxable population roles. Well, i'll tell you what.
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  Speaker 8: Now that we have a graduated income tax, I suggest
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  Speaker 8: no graduated taxation without graduated representation.
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  Speaker 6: So so your vote, So if you pay more in taxes,
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  Speaker 6: you know, for each dollar you pay in taxes, you'd
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  Speaker 6: get a vote.
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  Speaker 8: I think you ought to get a more weighted vote.
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  Speaker 6: Interesting, that's that's it.
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  Speaker 8: We're going to have graduated taxation. There ought to be
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  Speaker 8: graduated representation, Joe.
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  Speaker 6: Now you see Bernie Sanders would say, just that's right.
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  Speaker 6: I've seen the TV ads. There's one political party that
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  Speaker 6: says they're all about fairness, aren't they.
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  Speaker 8: Well, okay, let's just say we're gonna everybody's going to
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  Speaker 8: pay their fair share. If we're going to do that,
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  Speaker 8: then you figure out how much you need and you
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  Speaker 8: divide that by the total number of people here, and
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  Speaker 8: we'll know everybody's fair share and everybody can pay that amount.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, don't do that. I don't want to do that
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  Speaker 6: because that would imply them. Yeah, they'd have to show
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  Speaker 6: you what they need and why.
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  Speaker 8: Okay, Now, on your legislator's gun bans, Joe, clearly no
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  Speaker 8: firearm can be illegal in stolen election lands. And if
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  Speaker 8: they have padded your voter rolls to at least four
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  Speaker 8: hundred thousand bogus voters, I can pend that, your legislator,
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  Speaker 8: everybody is not legitimate.
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  Speaker 6: It would be an important thing to find out, you know,
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  Speaker 6: And that's one of the reasons they don't want to
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  Speaker 6: go through the voter rolls and find out how many
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  Speaker 6: people voted that didn't. Now, there's also the thing about
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  Speaker 6: the secret ballot, and that nobody in the government's supposed
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  Speaker 6: to know who voted for who. It's supposed to be
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  Speaker 6: the protection. We're supposed to vote secretly in public, so
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  Speaker 6: we guarantee the sanctity of the vote. And all those
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  Speaker 6: are cane things that people don't think mean anything until
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  Speaker 6: you see the coercion that goes on at people's doors
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  Speaker 6: by people out there doing ballot harvesting and things of
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  Speaker 6: that nature.
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  Speaker 8: What you've got now is people voting secretly in sacred Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: that's not.
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  Speaker 6: A good thing there, Clark. Good stuff, my friend. You
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  Speaker 6: have a great morning. Glad we got through to.
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  Speaker 5: You, all right.
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  Speaker 6: Take care. Four three four eight A two four two
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  Speaker 6: one seven is the phone number. You can also text
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  Speaker 6: message to us at Joe Tom at four three four
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  Speaker 6: eight A two four to two one seven, and we'll
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  Speaker 6: get your text messages on the air as well. Emails
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  Speaker 6: JT in the morning radio at gmail dot com. Are
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  Speaker 6: first things leaking more in Washington, d C. Than the
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  Speaker 6: average Iranian destroyer hit by a missile. We've got leaks
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  Speaker 6: all over the place. One that is telling the American
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  Speaker 6: press that the US intelligence agencies, who probably are the
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  Speaker 6: ones who leaked it, have a consistent analysis that the
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  Speaker 6: Iranian regime is not in danger of collapse and retains
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  Speaker 6: all control of the Iranian public. Then another leaked, this
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  Speaker 6: one specifically to the New York Times, says that Tomahawk
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  Speaker 6: missiles that landed on an elementary school next to an
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  Speaker 6: Iranian military base during the first days of Operation Epic
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  Speaker 6: it had been the home of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard
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  Speaker 6: safely returned from the Middle East, according to the State Department.
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  Speaker 6: Iran warned yesterday that it could destroy the world economy
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  Speaker 6: if it continues to keep oil from flowing through the
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  Speaker 6: straits of Hormuze. President Trump said he will tap the
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  Speaker 6: Strategic Petroleum Reserve if need to. Price of crude oil
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  Speaker 6: fell yesterday to seventy seven dollars barrel, but he was
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  Speaker 6: asked if he would tap into it and what it
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  Speaker 6: would do. He said, well, we'll tap into it and
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  Speaker 1: The challenge quickly on your to do list. Putting the
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  Speaker 1: radio on is the first thing today?
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  Speaker 2: Y O, yes, wait a minute?
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  Speaker 14: Di supposed way waits?
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  Speaker 6: We get to a couple of emails and texts that
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  Speaker 6: come in here again, texting is become and who knew?
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  Speaker 6: I said, Hey, you know, maybe we can make the
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  Speaker 6: phone line also work as a text line like yeah,
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  Speaker 6: we can do that now. Uh so either either or
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  Speaker 6: either or depending on the part of the country you're in,
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  Speaker 6: call or text four three, four eight eight two four
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  Speaker 6: two one seven. We were talking about the push to
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  Speaker 6: create liability when it comes to gun ownership. If somebody
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  Speaker 6: does something bad and gets and you are loved one,
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  Speaker 6: or you get injured with a gun, then you can
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  Speaker 6: sue not just the gun manufacturer, but the gun retailer
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  Speaker 6: that sold the gun into public use, because it could
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  Speaker 6: never be the individual that fired the gun. It's a
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  Speaker 6: crazy world. But you know several of you. Charles took
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  Speaker 6: the sarcastic route and said, well, let's go after the
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  Speaker 6: psychologists and such who have created this malpractice of making
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  Speaker 6: people crazy and not treating their insanity. And you know,
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  Speaker 6: I'm down with that. I think there is a liability.
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  Speaker 6: Bob in Virginia writes in a patient can sue the
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  Speaker 6: surgeon for malpractice. I think his point is that victims
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  Speaker 6: of crimes committed by the patient should should sue to
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  Speaker 6: enhance liability, slash the turrent to make the surgeon more
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  Speaker 6: apt to think twice ask twice there, Well, some of
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  Speaker 6: it is, you know, proving liability. And I'm not defending
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  Speaker 6: torte attorneys in this. I'm just saying that if you
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  Speaker 6: come in and I just went through this, I was sued.
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  Speaker 6: I was sued, and I'm not afraid to tell you
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  Speaker 6: about it. I was sued because somebody said that I
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  Speaker 6: did them dirty, and the judge upon review said I didn't.
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  Speaker 6: And then while they were dragging the case out, their
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  Speaker 6: lawyer quit. So I got you know, some say technicality
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  Speaker 6: tomato tomato either either, and I felt like it was
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  Speaker 6: all on me to prove that I didn't do something.
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  Speaker 6: And there's an old axiom in science, you know, you
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  Speaker 6: can't prove a negative. How do you prove that you
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  Speaker 6: didn't do something? And that's the danger in tort reform
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  Speaker 6: is that we're going more and more into the well,
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  Speaker 6: prove you didn't cause this person to shoot up a
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  Speaker 6: lawyer's office or something like that. Don't know why I
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  Speaker 6: picked that. What was the movie that's oh Runaway Jury?
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  Speaker 6: That Grisham nowell. Of course, you know the lawyers are
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  Speaker 6: the ones being targeted by the crazy guy with the gun,
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  Speaker 6: and uh gee, I wonder where John gets those stories from.
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  Speaker 6: So they the idea of liability sadly devolves away from
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  Speaker 6: actual liability to who's got the most money. Don't sue
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  Speaker 6: the driver of the car that plows through a grocery store,
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  Speaker 6: sue the carmaker because they have lots more money. This
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  Speaker 6: is where I think you and you want to watch
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  Speaker 6: democrats rally faster than you can say green new deal,
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  Speaker 6: say reform. Oh, every democrat the room just looked. They
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  Speaker 6: have an allergic affliction regarding tort reform. And all you
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  Speaker 6: have to do is, if you really want to get
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  Speaker 6: them started, say loser pays. It's what most of the
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  Speaker 6: civilized world, I'm told by the leftists in our government,
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  Speaker 6: the rest of the civilized world do all these other things.
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  Speaker 6: One of the things the rest of the civilized world
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  Speaker 6: does that we don't is loser pay laws regarding civil liability.
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  Speaker 6: But it's a rabbit hole based on this. I think
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  Speaker 6: it's ridiculous to say somebody who's legally sold a firearm
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  Speaker 6: to somebody should be held liable for something. Done with that?
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  Speaker 6: What's next? You know, if somebody hits you with a car,
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  Speaker 6: you can sue the car dealership because they sold somebody
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  Speaker 6: who was going to be irresponsible. Are It's it's a slippery,
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  Speaker 6: slippery slope to get in on. Joel on the line
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  Speaker 6: with this at four three four eight two four, What
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  Speaker 6: else did you have for us?
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  Speaker 19: Said Joel, Yeah, I wanted to say this too, because
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  Speaker 19: there's two things I wanted to bring up. I know,
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  Speaker 19: you know, you don't screen your calls. I mean you
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  Speaker 19: say hi, and then we're sometimes we're on hole, which
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  Speaker 19: is good, it's cool, it's a great it's a great
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  Speaker 19: way to do it because you're surprised too with our conversation.
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  Speaker 19: But I was listening to local report here because I
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  Speaker 19: listened to two stations sometimes you know, in between years,
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  Speaker 19: and then one here in Florida, and they the reporter
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  Speaker 19: asked Jonathan Savage, does he think that you know the
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  Speaker 19: the ships are going to go through? Because there were
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  Speaker 19: two more ships that I think, one off the coast
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  Speaker 19: of Iran and then one and Kuwait. But it was
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  Speaker 19: asking if any of the military's going to escort ships through,
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  Speaker 19: and I'm you know, they asked the European nations because
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  Speaker 19: the United States still hasn't done it yet, but they
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  Speaker 19: said they probably will, but I'm wondering as far as
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  Speaker 19: Europe not wanting to do it. Is it because of
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  Speaker 19: the Muslim Islamic you know populations. They're afraid that they
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  Speaker 19: can't even control their population and they're going to have
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  Speaker 19: uprisings with the you know, the militant Islamists in those
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  Speaker 19: countries and if they if they bring you know, any
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  Speaker 19: of their nations through to bring the oil through.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, without question. This is why Keir Starmer took so
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  Speaker 6: long to rock or get off the pot, as Mick
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  Speaker 6: Jagger once put it, because he's looking at a British
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  Speaker 6: population after the Syrian evacuations, Germany many other things. It's
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  Speaker 6: it's the difference though. See again we go back into
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  Speaker 6: citizenship assimilation versus individualism. Yes, you have individual rights, but
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  Speaker 6: it's just society has societal norms and rules that you
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  Speaker 6: have to comply with. And that's what they're afraid to
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  Speaker 6: get into with the Islamists because they're using religion like
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  Speaker 6: a weapon to say, no, we want to counter culture
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  Speaker 6: a subculture, because we don't want to give up these
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  Speaker 6: things that we do for your laws. And nobody has
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  Speaker 6: the guts to say, then don't come here, let me
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  Speaker 6: get to you at four three four eight A two
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  Speaker 6: four two one seven, Good morning.
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  Speaker 7: Who's this Hi, this is Ray.
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  Speaker 6: Good morning, Ray. What's on your mind?
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  Speaker 7: Well, the discussion just a couple of minutes ago about
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  Speaker 7: call it deferred responsibility, where you look several steps away
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  Speaker 7: from the individual who has actually committed the offense to
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  Speaker 7: somebody who enabled him in some fashion. Hammurabi's Code, back
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  Speaker 7: about eighteen hundred BC, generally acknowledged to be the first
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  Speaker 7: law code, or the first one that we have sort
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  Speaker 7: of complete, had an interesting provision that if the officials
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  Speaker 7: in a town allowed a merchant to be robbed and
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  Speaker 7: couldn't recover his property, they had to make it up
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  Speaker 7: out of their own pockets in effect. And it has
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  Speaker 7: occurred to me that the people, the judges and the like,
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what I question when you're talking about
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  Speaker 1: About the first thing today on the Talk Media Network
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  Speaker 1: by Joe Thomas.
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  Speaker 4: In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by
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  Speaker 4: two separate and equally important groups, the police who investigate
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  Speaker 4: crime and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. These
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  Speaker 4: are their stories.
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  Speaker 6: Back in the day when done done means done done.
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  Speaker 6: And we've pulled out of this and this this goes
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  Speaker 6: into it's interesting how a little thought like you know,
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  Speaker 6: this idea that Virginia is going to go after gun
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  Speaker 6: retailers for liability if somebody uses a gun you know,
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  Speaker 6: made by them. And there's this email from Sherry who says, well, Joe,
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  Speaker 6: how does this concept flush with your idea of follow
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  Speaker 6: the money. I understand the idea of not suing the
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  Speaker 6: driver of the car because they don't have as much
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  Speaker 6: money as the car company, But I can't imagine a
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  Speaker 6: gun retailer has more money than the gun manufacturer. Why
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  Speaker 6: not encourage them to suit glock or Celtech. Well, here's why,
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  Speaker 6: because this particular law is not about getting victims money.
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  Speaker 6: It's about stopping people from selling guns. The law is
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  Speaker 6: designed as all of these laws are. Ben Franklin, noted
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  Speaker 6: non property owner of the Founding Fathers. One of his
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  Speaker 6: philosophical waxings was that if you want less of something,
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  Speaker 6: tax it. So taxing or creating this liability on gun
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  Speaker 6: retailers will drive people out of the gun selling business,
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  Speaker 6: therefore making it harder for law abiding citizens to buy
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  Speaker 6: their constitutionally protected right to keep in bare arms. Therefore,
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  Speaker 6: having never violated the constitution, they have ostensibly banned you
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  Speaker 6: from having guns by making it impossible for you to
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  Speaker 6: find them. So we were talking about, you know, and
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  Speaker 6: it opened up this idea of why, well, who else
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  Speaker 6: could we sue which always has a fun conversation to
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  Speaker 6: have a friend of mine who has a little experience
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  Speaker 6: both on the law making side and on the law
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  Speaker 6: enforcing side, said. One clear idea that has been floated
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  Speaker 6: to address what Ray was saying is to allow cities
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  Speaker 6: to be sued for releasing criminal alien subjects to immigration
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  Speaker 6: detainer who go on to commit a crime after release.
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  Speaker 6: Much easier to establish causation between the breach of duty
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  Speaker 6: and harm. You have to remember four elements of negligence, duty, breach, causation,
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  Speaker 6: and harm. So you know, you have somebody who's on
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  Speaker 6: criminal detainer, and I was reading apparently there's a big schism.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 6: I was going to go on Todd Stern Todd Starn's
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  Speaker 6: NEWSMAC show yesterday to talk about this, and he's going
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  Speaker 6: to have me back next week. With the passing out
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  Speaker 6: of the they were carrying President Trump's speech live, so
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: technically Joe Thomas got bumped by Donald Trump. You know,
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  Speaker 6: he just never can win. But we were going to
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  Speaker 6: talk a little bit about this schism within Republicans. Two
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  Speaker 6: of them going on right now. One of them is
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  Speaker 6: over going after criminal aliens because why do they do it?
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  Speaker 6: Because it works the unending media coverage of guys like
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  Speaker 6: to take Ja up in Minneapolis saying they're they're rounding.
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  Speaker 2: Up our aboilas and our dishwashers, and they're rounding up
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  Speaker 2: our residents. Well, okay, you haven't used the C word yet.
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  Speaker 2: He like, like he's afraid to say Voldemort. He won't
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  Speaker 2: say citizens because they're not citizens. But he doesn't want
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  Speaker 2: you to think that, so he gets on the news
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  Speaker 2: saying they're rounding up my residence because you can live
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  Speaker 2: somewhere and not be a citizen of their Ray was
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  Speaker 2: just talking in the last segment about you know, going
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  Speaker 2: to these islam Islamic countries and visiting and you know,
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  Speaker 2: therefore not being a citizen. He wasn't going to be
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  Speaker 2: afforded the right to vote. And it's all part.
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  Speaker 6: Of, interestingly enough, the fact that these people are the
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  Speaker 6: ones who accuse Donald Trump of bringing chaos, this fire
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  Speaker 6: hose that we keep trying to program through, that we
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  Speaker 6: keep trying to tell you all about all the things
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  Speaker 6: coming out of the fire hose. This is intentionally designed
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  Speaker 6: for you to willingly vote away your individual rights and
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  Speaker 6: freedoms in favor of an authoritarian state. You especially know
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  Speaker 6: it because they're the ones who are claiming Donald Trump
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  Speaker 6: is an authoritarian are generally the ones I would look
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  Speaker 6: at first for the ones who are trying to write
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  Speaker 6: these laws. But this Republican fight over talking about illegals
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  Speaker 6: and mass deportation. I don't know who started the mass deportation,
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  Speaker 6: but I will guarantee you it's somebody along the lines
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  Speaker 6: of Nick Fuentes or Laura Looper or one of these blogmeisters,
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  Speaker 6: because I went back to see where Donald Trump or
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  Speaker 6: even Tom Homan talked about mass deportations. He said, we're
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  Speaker 6: going to go get the people who aren't supposed to
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  Speaker 6: be here and send them home. So I will guarantee
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  Speaker 6: you the phrase started in one of these clickbaiters, Candice Owens,
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  Speaker 6: somebody like that, even Tucker Carlson, and then it rolls
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  Speaker 6: out into oh, this must be Republican policy. Why do
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  Speaker 6: they do it? Because it works. They take these statements
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  Speaker 6: by these agitators and make it policy just to split
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  Speaker 6: Republican against Republican because there are so many of us,
• 50:45
  Speaker 6: they have to split us in half at least if
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  Speaker 6: they want to have a chance of any electoral victories,
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  Speaker 6: which is what they want because that's the example. They
• 50:54
  Speaker 6: will build everything on as soon as there's an election victory.
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  Speaker 6: It's not just about perhaps flip the House and send
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  Speaker 6: it to Democratic control. It's the visual of the electoral
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  Speaker 6: rebuke of President Trump's policies, regardless of rebuking how he
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  Speaker 6: acts as an individual, what he says as a person,
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  Speaker 6: because I think a lot of that angst is also
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  Speaker 6: driven by what you're told he did, not what he
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  Speaker 6: actually did. And that's frustrating, and it's been the case
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  Speaker 6: since Charlottesville of twenty seventeen. All I ever try to
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  Speaker 6: do is say, you know, like or dislike Trump, just
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  Speaker 6: do it based on what he actually does. And the
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  Speaker 6: other thing going on in the Republicans is this feeling like, oh,
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  Speaker 6: if they're doing something to divide the black community and
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  Speaker 6: the black community speaks out about it, Republicans have to
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  Speaker 6: denounce it or renounce any association with it. Why why
• 51:55
  Speaker 6: the black community has a right to say, hey, but
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  Speaker 6: because the left comes out, are you support this racism?
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  Speaker 6: I'm not a racist because people don't see, or don't know,
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  Speaker 6: or aren't prepped. So a reporter corners some Republican office holder,
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  Speaker 6: did you see this bill claiming that the redistrict thing
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  Speaker 6: is three fifths two point Oh did you hear Joe
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  Speaker 6: Thomas say it? I don't support that without knowing any
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  Speaker 6: of the context. Don't answer questions of people if you
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  Speaker 6: don't know what's going on. When did we stop teaching
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  Speaker 6: officeholders to say no comment? I mean, except for the
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  Speaker 6: Lieutenant governor of Virginia who just walks down the hall
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  Speaker 6: and has her thugs pin people up against the wall.
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  Speaker 6: Time's up for us today until tomorrow morning at five.
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  Speaker 6: I am Joe Thomas, So long and thanks for all
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  Speaker 6: the fish.
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