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The SnyderVerse Is Over!?! (Superman Spoiler Free Review!!!) · For All Nerds Show

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  Speaker 1: You are now watching Four All Nerds and on this
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  Speaker 1: episode re review Superman twenty twenty five no spoilers, and
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  Speaker 1: we are joined by special guests Black a comic geek
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  Speaker 1: and Gotham.
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  Speaker 2: Geek girl.
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  Speaker 3: And what's up, y'all, and welcome back to another episode
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  Speaker 3: of the four All Nerds Show. It's your boy, DJ
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  Speaker 3: Ben I Mean aka Captain Cole Brew aka Wally Beside
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  Speaker 3: aka Bripto aka the ultrachine Man here in the Spaceship tonight,
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  Speaker 3: and it's always.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Wally Westside. I haven't heard that one a long.
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  Speaker 4: Time about Bripto though, come on pick up Bripto.
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  Speaker 2: No niggy.
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  Speaker 4: Ultrachine Man.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, I am here in the Spaceship, joined.
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  Speaker 1: By Tatiana King, the Grand Duchess of Tech also known
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  Speaker 1: as Gucci Mane, the Lauriate Lambo cow Rizian Flex Luthor
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  Speaker 1: Corilla Rod, and the Lord of Light Sabers.
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  Speaker 3: There we go, There we go, and we have two
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  Speaker 3: very special guests joining us tonight. First that we have
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  Speaker 3: Michael aka the Black gay comic geek.
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  Speaker 5: Say, I forgot, I forgot to do that, my akas
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  Speaker 5: I forgot.
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  Speaker 6: I was like dang, I was like wait aka Gates one, dude.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Great job, that's the first.
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  Speaker 6: That's what I got in my head.
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  Speaker 4: Right now, there we go. That's all we need.
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  Speaker 3: And we also have Dotdia Martinez. Please introduce yourself to
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  Speaker 3: the fan.
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  Speaker 8: Fare geek girl here.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, all right and everyone, we are
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  Speaker 3: here to talk about a little movie.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's dropping I think this Friday.
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  Speaker 8: That's correct, the eleventh US.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, the eleventh in the US.
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  Speaker 3: Little movie you might have heard about from a comic
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  Speaker 3: book company. You know, some people might have read a
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  Speaker 3: few of these comics one time or another. Superman dropping Friday,
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  Speaker 3: July eleventh. All of us have got to see it.
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  Speaker 3: We will be discussing it. This is a no spoiler zone, though,
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  Speaker 3: you don't have to worry about anything being spoiled, where
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  Speaker 3: I could talk about any major plot details, nothing you
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  Speaker 3: haven't seen or heard about. And you know, we're just
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  Speaker 3: gonna talk to some themes, how we felt about it,
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  Speaker 3: all that good stuff.
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  Speaker 6: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So where do you want to start?
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  Speaker 4: Then let's let our guests start off. You know what
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  Speaker 4: I mean? Okay, yeah, I.
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  Speaker 5: Would he talk to you, but I'm like really curious
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  Speaker 5: because your face has been just like, I'm not I'm
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  Speaker 5: trying to get something from you, but I'm like, does
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  Speaker 5: she like it?
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  Speaker 6: Does she hate it?
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm curious, I'll never tell, I'll tell later. But well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, let's get some overall sentiments, right, So, since
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  Speaker 1: since you were talking my goal, let's ask you first
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  Speaker 1: overall before you going any deep detail, just what did
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  Speaker 1: you think about film?
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  Speaker 8: Overall?
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  Speaker 5: I had fun, I liked the movie.
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  Speaker 6: I didn't love the movie, but I liked the movie.
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  Speaker 6: I definitely feel like.
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  Speaker 5: For the longest time, especially since we lived with the
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  Speaker 5: Snyder verses, like the first time, we're getting like a
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  Speaker 5: Superman movie that's really really for.
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  Speaker 4: Kids, and.
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  Speaker 5: This version of Superman really leans into like the Silver
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  Speaker 5: age wackiness of Superman. Like you think about Superman back
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  Speaker 5: in the day, Like my dude was shooting freaking rainbows
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  Speaker 5: out his fingers and many versions of himself.
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  Speaker 4: I don't talk to him about this last week. She
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  Speaker 4: didn't know about the mini versions coming out of his hand.
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  Speaker 5: Many versions coming out of his hands, like this up
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  Speaker 5: and down Superman came out Like Superman has always been
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  Speaker 5: a weird, wacky character and even to the point that
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  Speaker 5: he has a fucking super Dog. So like, I feel
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  Speaker 5: like this movie is like really leaning into especially like
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  Speaker 5: with James Gunn, Like, so this movie is really leaning
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  Speaker 5: this that comic book wackiness. And even like the color
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  Speaker 5: grading is much more bright and vibrant as opposed to
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  Speaker 5: the Zack Snyder greywash filter.
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  Speaker 6: And so I think because of that, like it made me.
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  Speaker 5: Feel more hopeful, like Superman got to be a hero
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  Speaker 5: again compared to like the Zack Snyder Superman movie.
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  Speaker 6: So like, I enjoyed it. It was fun.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, I think the characters of what I liked more
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  Speaker 5: so than like the crafting of the script. Okay, well,
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  Speaker 5: I think the characters are what really made me interested
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  Speaker 5: in the movie.
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  Speaker 6: Like, I think they were really strong.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, strong character work. Okay, Nadio, what do you think? Overall?
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  Speaker 7: I think it did a complete one eighty from Man
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  Speaker 7: of Steel and it's it's very lighthearted, it's warm, it's wholesome.
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  Speaker 7: I will say I did not love this movie. I
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  Speaker 7: don't think it's a masterpiece. It's not an Olan, it's
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  Speaker 7: not a summary me. It's entertaining. It's a happy, go
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  Speaker 7: lucky superhero film. It's fun, but it's very gun coded,
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  Speaker 7: and it's a little bit too much on the campy
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  Speaker 7: end for me, where there's no repercussions and a lot
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  Speaker 7: of things that should have mattered didn't really matter.
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  Speaker 8: And I'll get more into that later. You said gun coded,
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  Speaker 8: gun coded.
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  Speaker 2: Gun coded, James, gun coded?
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  Speaker 4: Oh okay, I thought, you mean I know.
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  Speaker 2: What she means.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, Wow, I didn't. I didn't get that.
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  Speaker 4: I missed that. I mean, you know, everything's always military encoded.
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  Speaker 2: But Ben, you were rare.
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  Speaker 1: You actually got to see it twice upon your second view,
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  Speaker 1: And what did you think?
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  Speaker 2: Overall?
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  Speaker 3: I enjoyed it much more the second time. I'll say
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  Speaker 3: that I'm glad I got to see it twice because
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  Speaker 3: the first time I saw it. While I enjoyed it
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  Speaker 3: the first time, I think, uh, the James done this
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  Speaker 3: of it all really was my big problem with it.
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  Speaker 3: I felt the same way when I was watching Guardians
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  Speaker 3: of the Galaxy three. Even though I really love Guardians
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  Speaker 3: of the Galaxy three, there's moments in it where I'm
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  Speaker 3: just like, all right, James, you've done this trick before
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  Speaker 3: I get it. You're gonna play musical moteagion. People are
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  Speaker 3: going to dance around and some cgi is going to
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  Speaker 3: happen and there will be some matching and Okay, cool,
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  Speaker 3: let's move on to something else. And in Guardians that
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  Speaker 3: was the character work, and then again in Superman, I
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  Speaker 3: feel like the character work, like Michael said, is the
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  Speaker 3: strongest part of it. I would just love to see
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  Speaker 3: all of these characters in another movie. It's what it
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  Speaker 3: really boiled down to.
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  Speaker 4: For me.
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  Speaker 3: I did really enjoy, like Michael said, even compared to
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  Speaker 3: a Marvel film, the brightness of this movie is amazing.
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  Speaker 3: It is really visually bright, colorful. Superman looks great. We'll
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  Speaker 3: get more into each the individual with Michael Korns. Michael
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  Speaker 3: Korn said. David Kren said, he said, shit alive.
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  Speaker 6: Mmm. And if he.
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  Speaker 5: Proposes to me like I'm hoping for, then Michael.
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  Speaker 3: Look, I went and turn it down so that yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like I immediately put him in with All
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  Speaker 3: the Great Superman.
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  Speaker 4: And I reread All Star Superman.
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  Speaker 3: Right before this because Gun had said that it was
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  Speaker 3: a big influence on him, and the first time I
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  Speaker 3: really was a feeling that, but the second time I
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  Speaker 3: really was. It is that All Star at Silver Age.
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  Speaker 3: I love the relationships. I love Lois and Clark super
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  Speaker 3: all this type of stuff. I loved all that everything
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  Speaker 3: going on. Overall, liked it a lot.
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  Speaker 4: It just gun is.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll start where you left off, gun Be making choices.
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  Speaker 1: I have notes my overall, I am deeply on the
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  Speaker 1: fence about this film.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure whether I liked it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: I don't hate it. It's not a thor. It's not
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  Speaker 1: a thor for so we'll get that out the way.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm this film to me read like All Star Superman,
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  Speaker 1: cross with Superman one, two and three, cross with.
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  Speaker 2: And four.
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  Speaker 1: Well for me, one two and three, that's that's what
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  Speaker 1: I see. And Guardians of the Galaxy, and I think
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  Speaker 1: that's too potentially to its detriment.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's.
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  Speaker 1: Great for people who have the full history of Superman
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  Speaker 1: and want to see all of the like literally, he
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  Speaker 1: threw all of that shit in there, I mean everything
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  Speaker 1: you could have thought all the You made a great point, Michael,
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  Speaker 1: which is one of my main both the lights and
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  Speaker 1: concerns about this film.
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  Speaker 2: It is so goofy, it is so wacky. It is
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  Speaker 2: so what are you doing right now? Like what LSD
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  Speaker 2: was you on when you.
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  Speaker 1: Made this choice at the same time, there are so
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  Speaker 1: many fun components to it, and as mentioned, we'll get
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  Speaker 1: to all.
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  Speaker 2: Of that stuff. But my overall takeaway was I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how I felt about this. For I
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  Speaker 1: was very much As I was sitting there, I was
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  Speaker 1: kind of going like I was just I was, I was,
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  Speaker 1: I was, Uh, I'm conflicted.
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  Speaker 7: I feel like there are moments like that me and
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  Speaker 7: Ben looked over at each other and we were laughing
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  Speaker 7: and things like that shouldn't have been funny, like they
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  Speaker 7: were like a kid.
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  Speaker 8: The kid was going Superman Superman here like Superman. I
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  Speaker 8: was like, what, I can't deal with this. I kept
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  Speaker 8: checking my family like is this almost sober?
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  Speaker 7: Like? I also didn't hate it, but there were just
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  Speaker 7: some moments where I was like, this is too much.
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  Speaker 5: Please just seemed like I appreciate, like even the kid
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  Speaker 5: doing that because it's going to show. Like one of
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  Speaker 5: my biggest complaints about like Man is steel and the
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  Speaker 5: Snyder burst was like that nobody gave a fuck about Superman,
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  Speaker 5: Like Superman wasn't the hope and icon and superhero that
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  Speaker 5: he's supposed to be like even and that's the thing
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  Speaker 5: I liked about the Corn Sweart Superman, like it looks
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  Speaker 5: like he enjoys being Superman.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, he even smiles.
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  Speaker 5: He knows the cab driver. He knows the cab driver's name.
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  Speaker 5: People are trying to help him. When he's on the ground,
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  Speaker 5: he's picking up little kids, and little kids are running
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  Speaker 5: up to him, and even little kids are like at
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  Speaker 5: like saying, Superman, come protect us. People are yelling Superman
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  Speaker 5: across the country like he's supposed to be the hero
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  Speaker 5: of the globe, truth, justice, and a better tomorrow.
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  Speaker 6: And we never got that for the longest time. For
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  Speaker 6: the Zach Steys so.
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  Speaker 2: Too though, like, well, you know.
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  Speaker 6: True, but he still was a hero.
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  Speaker 2: He was wrong, very much a hero.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm gonna actually go the piggyback off Fat Michael,
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  Speaker 1: because that is one of the strengths of this film.
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  Speaker 1: I felt like they did a big return to the
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  Speaker 1: heart and soul of classics super which is this is
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  Speaker 1: the hero. This is the one that famous panel you
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  Speaker 1: showed me Ben about when he's holding that kid at
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  Speaker 1: the edge, like the kid wants to jump off the
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  Speaker 1: edge of the building something like that, and like that
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  Speaker 1: singular point of hope, that single point of faith, like
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  Speaker 1: they brought that back. They brought off the levity back
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  Speaker 1: to Superman. Like you said, it really good, Nadia, A
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  Speaker 1: complete one eighty to what we've seen about the dreary.
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  Speaker 1: I don't smile. I'm not fucking with y'all type Superman, right,
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  Speaker 1: cause that's kind.
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  Speaker 2: Of where you get off.
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  Speaker 1: Even though I love having a Superman, I still love
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  Speaker 1: him as Superman.
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  Speaker 2: But I get and I get it right.
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  Speaker 1: And I would say that been similar to what you
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  Speaker 1: said earlier about this being a beautiful kind of legacy
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  Speaker 1: to the classic Superman. This was David Horns that killed
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  Speaker 1: that liked. He did an amazing job. And I saw
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  Speaker 1: the legacy of Christopher Reeves. I saw the legacy of
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  Speaker 1: his predecessors.
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  Speaker 2: I saw the.
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  Speaker 1: Love and the determination to bring a character that is
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  Speaker 1: supposed to evoke love, and it's supposed to evoke the
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  Speaker 1: aspect of I love you even when you don't love.
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  Speaker 4: Me, right, because you don't love yourself even when you don't.
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  Speaker 2: Love yourself type shit.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And also the fact that it's very beautifully stated, Michael,
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  Speaker 1: it's global, right, It's not just even though he is
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  Speaker 1: used for propaganda, you know, opportunities many times throughout his throughout.
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  Speaker 2: His Superman's career, if you will.
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  Speaker 1: At the end of the day, he's supposed to be
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  Speaker 1: a global symbol, a symbol of humanity, and they made
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  Speaker 1: it very clear in this film, and that's what he is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, whether it was very on the nose or
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  Speaker 1: very much you know, implied. It was just like, no,
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  Speaker 1: I am here for the human race. I am here
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  Speaker 1: to protect, to serve and to love you. I'm Jesus
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  Speaker 1: so like him more and I like and that's what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, Superman, Superman.
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  Speaker 2: I loved him.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, I think.
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  Speaker 5: Once you go into the movie, because it's not something
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  Speaker 5: that you know expecting it because also we're so used
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  Speaker 5: to like the Snider verse even.
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  Speaker 6: Like the MCU and the Marvel movies and things like that.
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  Speaker 5: But once you go into this movie knowing, like I
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  Speaker 5: feel like James Gunn really made this movie. He didn't
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  Speaker 5: make it for us for kids.
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  Speaker 2: He made it. Oh perfectly stated.
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  Speaker 1: I there was so many things that was kind of slapstick.
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  Speaker 1: Dialogue was kind of weird. I'm just like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: who's this for exactly? So they they did age it down.
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  Speaker 1: They aged down, they aged it down and said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna sell a lot of t shirts. We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: sell a lot of figurines for toys.
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  Speaker 2: We got to get into Crypto Lady Jesus Christ.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, wait a minute, I gotta it's not the movie
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  Speaker 6: version of crymto Differ.
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  Speaker 4: I like that one.
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  Speaker 2: But that was cute.
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  Speaker 1: So but James did again, he did Would you say Gunnafi?
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  Speaker 2: Is that what you said?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 6: You heed?
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  Speaker 1: He gunnified Superman And yes, DC is his baby now anyway,
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  Speaker 1: the DC Universe what the DC Cinematic Universe, whatever it's called.
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  Speaker 2: Now, yes, that's his child now.
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  Speaker 1: But it's like super Gonna like there were so many
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  Speaker 1: aspect of the Guardians of the Galaxy.
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  Speaker 2: I was just like, James, we over here, now, can
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  Speaker 2: we can we.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I understand that's maybe a little DNA, but
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  Speaker 1: could we tone it down a bit? And it just
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  Speaker 1: got more and more wacky, and I was like, so,
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  Speaker 1: I was just like, this isn't for me, and maybe
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  Speaker 1: that's why I'm so so on the fence about it.
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  Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, it wasn't if you come
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  Speaker 1: in there with just wanting to just have a fun
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  Speaker 1: different Superman.
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  Speaker 2: Have you been seeing for the last ten years, fifteen years?
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  Speaker 2: This is it for you?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think if you come in there with the eyes
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  Speaker 3: of a child for real, you will have the time
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  Speaker 3: of your life. And I think children are going to
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  Speaker 3: have the time of their life in this. Because I
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  Speaker 3: was thinking about it earlier today, I was say, Yo,
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  Speaker 3: if I've never seen one of these Guardians of the
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  Speaker 3: Galaxy movies, I'm like, Yo, this is fantastic. This is
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  Speaker 3: one of the greatest things I've ever seen. But because
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  Speaker 3: I've seen three Guardians of the Galaxy movies, I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: come on, James, But you know, eight nine, ten year
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  Speaker 3: old ain't gonna do nothing about that, or even if
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  Speaker 3: you as seen him, he's not a bit about the
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  Speaker 3: comparison where he's gonna think about he or she they
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  Speaker 3: are gonna make that.
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  Speaker 4: No, they're just gonna.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely not and they're not going to think about Like
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  Speaker 3: we're talking about the ramifications of what happens in this film.
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  Speaker 2: There are no consequences.
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  Speaker 1: Consequence, and there's literally scenes where things are happening, and
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  Speaker 1: there's things that happening.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of massive you know, superhero action, and the
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  Speaker 3: structure happens and yeah, and.
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  Speaker 4: There, it's just there.
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  Speaker 3: It's taken as I feel like a Dit Tracy type
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  Speaker 3: version of this, you know, or like, but did Tracy
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  Speaker 3: is inspired or Superman is inspired by those Dit Tracy
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  Speaker 3: So I think it just is that sixties, seventies, even
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  Speaker 3: the eighties Superman. It feels very much in the vein
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  Speaker 3: of them. But it doesn't feel like Superman returns where
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  Speaker 3: it feels like they're just trying to continue those versions.
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  Speaker 3: This feels like, now this is a very twenty twenty
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  Speaker 3: five version of the eighties Superman.
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  Speaker 1: This is a this is a gunnafied mythology of Superman.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, because I will say, I'm mean going like to
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  Speaker 5: the consequences, there are definitely are things that happened in
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  Speaker 5: the movie that should have had way more ramifications.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, that was my main issue.
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  Speaker 7: I'm like, thousands of people should have been dead and
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  Speaker 7: no one, no one.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not even talking about just that, but I'm like
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  Speaker 6: the no no spoilers.
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  Speaker 5: But there's a moment in another in a place that
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  Speaker 5: happens with us with a person, a brown person. There's
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  Speaker 5: another there's a hawk girl does something that I feel
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  Speaker 5: like should have some huge ramifications.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: Everything everything green Lantern, hawt girl and uh.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: Like at that point people should have you should have
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: gone the war.
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, but what Hawk girl did.
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: I'm like Amanda with somebody, like yo, Amanda Wall like
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: get these mother, Like I just maybe show update.
• 16:55
  Speaker 7: He didn't know what he wanted it to be rated
• 16:57
  Speaker 7: because it's PEG thirteen, like so is Iron Man. But
• 17:00
  Speaker 7: at the at the same time, it's like some of
• 17:03
  Speaker 7: the things we don't want to get into because the spoilers.
• 17:06
  Speaker 7: It's annoying that it was not addressed. So if you're
• 17:11
  Speaker 7: gonna if you're gonna curse, or if you're gonna have
• 17:13
  Speaker 7: a moment, like, at least make things make sense, like
• 17:17
  Speaker 7: we just said, like there's no ramifications and what was
• 17:22
  Speaker 7: the part that, Oh, so basically everyone knows the whole
• 17:26
  Speaker 7: immigrant theme.
• 17:28
  Speaker 8: Yeah, alien immigrant original.
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 17:33
  Speaker 7: I do love that he touched on that because let
• 17:37
  Speaker 7: all these insults go cry in a basement. But the
• 17:40
  Speaker 7: only thing I'm upset about is that if you're gonna
• 17:42
  Speaker 7: touch on themes of oppression, I'm not saying you have
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: to show people in pain, but you have to address
• 17:47
  Speaker 7: that it's happening. And I think it did a terrible
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: job in addressing I guess we'll call it the Palestinian
• 17:53
  Speaker 7: side of whatever. He's trying to relay the message. He
• 17:58
  Speaker 7: didn't show any form of a pressure, and he didn't
• 18:00
  Speaker 7: really show any any negative if that makes sense, Like
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: he didn't really show the danger.
• 18:06
  Speaker 8: There's no danger in this movie.
• 18:07
  Speaker 7: But thenied, Yeah, if you're gonna touch on things like this,
• 18:13
  Speaker 7: you cannot at least address it like Guardians of the
• 18:15
  Speaker 7: Galaxy three. I think that was our but it's still
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: had a balance of humor. But so it Yeah, same
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: thing it could have. It could have addressed some real
• 18:25
  Speaker 7: life like issues and not just skip around it and
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: like have people jumping around singing happily like and just
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: forgetting what just happened five seconds ago.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: I think it was.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: I know for me anyway, there was a vast difference
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: between what I expected and what I got in terms
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: of tone, And I think that's also part of it.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Like at the end of the day, his tone is
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: not to address any of that stuff, you know, to
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: our detriment as critics, but to the delight of people
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: who just want to go in there and just be like, oh,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: something happened on screen or everything so bright, that's what
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: he said. He his tone was, I'm going to make
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: this accessible for anybody regardless of your level of information
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: about Superman, regardless of level of critique, Like he just said,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I feel he just said, what is the lowest common denominy?
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: I can get everybody in the door, And this is
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: what we ended up with.
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: But for me, though, like even though maybe he could
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: have dived and delved more into the politics of everything
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: that was going on, like Bravia and things like that,
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: Like and it's no spoilers because I was in the trailer.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: I still appreciate that it was even addressed in the movie. Yeah,
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: and that brought up, and that this movie was even
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: as political as it was.
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it might have been surface level, but it was
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: still more.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: Political than damn there any Superman movie that's ever existed.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: I agree with that.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: So I at least appreciate that because Superman when he
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: was first created, his very first issue in nineteen thirty eight,
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: he was labeled the champion of the press. He was
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: fight before he was fighting dark Side, before he was
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: fighting Mongol, Mentalo, Brainiac and all this other stuff. He
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: was fighting slum lords and billionaires.
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: This is right, helping people get affordable.
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: Housing and so showing just a modicum of that in
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: this movie, because a lot of times when we think
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: of Superman, we always think about the grandiose super battles,
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: and while there was that in this movie, we still
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: got to see him help out the little man. Yeah,
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: that he saves a squirrel, which.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Again, goofy or what? But you know, I'm like, okay, fine,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: They're trying to say that he cares for the smallest
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: creature to the largest whatever.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: I think again, just about understanding what the intended tone was,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: is really gonna gonna That's where your knowledge are gonna vary.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: If you come in here having any sense of Snyder verse,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: you're gonna be lost.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: You're gonna be completely lost, completely on the wrong end
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: of the spectrum. This is the opposite.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Ben, what you want.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: To say, No, no, keep going. I was just laughing
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: at the idea of it being anything like this.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Not no, this is this is completely different, And.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: You know what, I'm sorry, I'm just like still trying
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: to come to terms Almos, whether I like this or not.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: All right, let me say something that on the politics,
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: because we mentioned Palestine, and yeah, I think it's very.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: Gunn does what he needs to do with that.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Where the Bravia, right, that's the name of the.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Fake country, Brown country X.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: It could represent any country.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: It could be palestein, it could be Serbia, it could
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: be here, it could be there.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: It could be anything.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: And that's why I think he did it that way,
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: where whoever wants to attach whatever a press country they
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: want to it, they can attach to it.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: So that way he's free and clear of any real issues,
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: even though he's touching a lot of issues for it
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: And I will agree that this is the most political
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: film Superman film, but not really because the Man of
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Steel are very political.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Man of Steel.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: They just expreads a different politics than what we really
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: agree with.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: They really make a very much a I think he's
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: very inspired by ann Ran and determinism, and it's very
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: much about that. Superman is very much y'all. I don't
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: give fuck about nobody, but yeah, myself, I can't even smile.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Y'all are worthless, you know, pull yourselves up by your bootstraps,
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: is that Superman. And so that's a very much different
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: politic than this, which is a very much worldly I love.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Everyone, I trust everyone.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Like I said, yeah, which was great, and I think
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: all that is really intrinsic to Superman, and one of
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: the reasons I love them because, like I say, it
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: goes back to that All Star Superman, which is one
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: of my favorite versions.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: Or what do You or whatever Happened to the Man of.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Tomorrow is one of my favorite versions of Superman, the
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: ones that heart back to that classic silver age but
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: keep a modern tone. But like you said, tat down
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: and that panel, that page and All Star Superman. A
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: young girl is about to unlive herself at the edge
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: of a building, and Superman overhears her conversation with her therapist,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: and her therapist is trying to get to her because
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: he knows what's going on with her, and he hears it,
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: you know, because of his superhero He's hearing all these
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: different conversations. He's in the medal of battling this giant
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: robot when he hears his first bit of this conversation,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: finishes off the robot and it flies over lands behind
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: the girl and tells her that you're stronger than you
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: think you are, and that shit just you know, fuck
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: with me so much. It is like one of the
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: most powerful pages in you know, the history of combaboots
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: to me, and it just encapsulates what made Superman so
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: great is that he believes in humanity more than he
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: even believes in himself, and that I think this film
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: really does get that and that that's the kind of
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: shit that does make me want to, you know, bring
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: me to tears because it does.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: That's that Superman shit that I love.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And while the film is mostly surface level, there
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: are points where it does die into him, Like there's
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: a constant interrogation of Superman and his character.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Why are you like this? You know by everyone around him?
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Why do you care? Why you like this?
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: Why?
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Why are you giving them a chance? You know? Why
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: do you care? Why do you trust these people?
• 24:13
  Speaker 8: Like?
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: It's constant, and he is very consistent throughout it because
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: what else is there buts you love? What else is
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: there buts you care? And protecting all this other stuff.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: So I will say that in terms of consistency, this
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: is very strong, and it's something that had been missing
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: in the dc EU at the time, like just consistency
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: about what a character was besides dark and dreary, right
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: about who they.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Were at their core.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I think this, this, this tries to be as consistent
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: and I guess deeply connected to legacy as possible.
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: And because of everything that you're saying, tatiata and going
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: back to what you said, Wally west Side. Uh, but
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: like that's kind of why I disagree with them. Like
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: when you guys are like Man of Stille was very political,
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: It's like, yes, it was, but it also wasn't because
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: there was ever it was not even just surface level.
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: But like the difference with that with like the Man
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: of Steel politics and the James Gunn Superman politics is
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: at least with Superman, we got Superman's perspective.
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: There was never a moment.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: Where Snyder's Superman explained why he does what he does,
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: why he even wants to be Superman. I felt like
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: the perfect moment and scene would have been that court scene,
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: like let him, let him speak his peace.
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: And then have that explosion happen.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: But we never got really got to hear any of
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: his internal thoughts, even to the point that, like Martha Kent,
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: she was like, you don't need to be Superman, like
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: you don't owe this world nothing, No, And.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: I hated that. That's like Martha would not say that
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: and that, But that's my point. It's not that it
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: doesn't have politics. It's that like, That's the thing people
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: often misconstrue and mis use is they're like, oh, this
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: film is political, and every film is political. It's just
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: most of them agree with what those people who are
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: mad about want to hear. Superman the Man of Steel
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: series agrees. It's a very right right wing position. Even Superman.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: I don't don't give a fuck about humanity. I don't
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: care about nobody else. Martha, you don't owe no one anything.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: You know, you don't smile, you don't do anything for
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: anyone else. Pull yourselves up humanity. Y'all all do this
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: when they when they ask him, what does it even
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: like about Earth? And He's like, you know, that's what
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: I'm saying. So it is, it's like most films are.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: All films are political, All artists political. It's just what
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: side of it expresses and most often expresses a side
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: that is in tune with keeping the status quote. That's
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: why I say those films are very political because they're
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: you know, very much a conservative, you know, lead film,
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: which is you know, as far as I know that's
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: that Snyder, I don't really.
• 26:55
  Speaker 8: See it like that. I see it more as injustice
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: like God's among us.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Like I find in justice be the same thing I
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: find in justice be a lot of like it takes
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: a way that essence thaties of what these characters are.
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: It's like it's cheap thrills.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: To me, it's like injustice you're talking about.
• 27:17
  Speaker 8: All the time.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be all the time. But like, okay,
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: like a good version of that is like red Son.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: To me, red Son, it shows Superman as you know,
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: what happens when he's raised in a system that's not
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: a loving couple, et cetera, et cetera.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: But at the end of it, he's still Superman. You know,
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: you can't take that out.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: Of him, and this man will always be the one
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: who believes in humanity.
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: I think when you take that away from him, it
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: just like make another character.
• 27:45
  Speaker 8: And he snap's neck. That was his wake up call?
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: No, see that?
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's what I'm saying.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: I don't think man is still the snapping of the
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: neck is the problem of a man of steel. People
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: always go to the snapping in the neck. He had
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: to snap that dude's neck, that's you know, etcetera, et cetera.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: But he didn't have to go was kissed Lowest Lane
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: and the ashes of millions of people after that, that's
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: where it becomes like a choice, don't ship that.
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: But then what he didn't have to do is remember
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: that scene when Lois Lane was in the shower and
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: seeing they had gotten the shower with his muddy ass.
• 28:14
  Speaker 8: Boots like, nah.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: Get the fuck out my like, get the fuck out
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: of my house, Like what are you doing? At least
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: take your clothes, like he just came out the house
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: like he washing. He came in the boots with the
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: muddy ass boots, Like come on, now, let's let's talk
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: us hashtag not my Superman.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Yoh my god, Let's talk about the characters, because everyone
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: did make a comment about the character work being strong
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: or the other characters being great, and Benny even says,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I want to bring that back. He said, Oh, I
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: would love to see the characters in a different movie
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: kind of.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: I really loved this movie. The more I think about it, I.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Love the characters in another movie too. But who who
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: stood out the most to y'all? Anybody could just.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: Go Lois and Clark and Superman love.
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I love that.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I love that char like Bear chemistry. Okay, I did
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: like Lex.
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: Lex also mister Terrific I like, I would like to
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: see I would like to see more of him, though,
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: but I like I I agree, I agree with that.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: I'll get to that later, but I still would like
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: to see more of his character. There are things I
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: had a problem with, but I would like to just
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: have mister Terrific become more of a household name.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, I love mister Terrific and for for for many
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: valuable reasons.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: But I want to circle back really quick, back to Nadia.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: You said Lex right as the resident Lex flag bearer
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: in this outfit.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: I would love to know why you fucked with Lex.
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: All right, So, I think Lois was honestly one of
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: the strongest characters, and I loved Lex. I did have
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: issues with him, I will say I think he was
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: under utilized. At the same time, I think he had
• 29:59
  Speaker 7: amazing screen presence. He saved the movie to me. I
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: thought he was iconic and relentless. He showed like a
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: real threat and his real like hate and like weird
• 30:10
  Speaker 7: obsession of Superman. My only issue is he came off
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: kind of trumpish again, Like I feel like that that's
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: been done it's kind of played down cliche, like he's
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: whining and crying like it. It was kind of getting
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: a little annoying. But he was also inspired by Michael Rosenbaum,
• 30:31
  Speaker 7: Lex Luthor in Smallville and like Steve Jobs, and I
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: feel like he kind of did like a little bit
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: of All Star Superman and like a whole bunch of
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: different things. Brian Azarella, I believe, was also an influence
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: of him, and I just think that Trump satire was
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: a little too much for me. But aside from that,
• 30:48
  Speaker 7: I want to see more of him as a villain,
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: Like I think he's a great villain, like the the
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: the actor, I think if we get a better story,
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: because essentially my whole point of the movie. Issue with
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: this movie in general is the script is absolutely terrible.
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: The dialogue is horrendous. Every single character's dialogue is horrendous.
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: So aside from that, if you take that away, I
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: think the casting is phenomenal and I think he did
• 31:13
  Speaker 7: a good portrayal if he had a better script and
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: wasn't crying every five seconds.
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: See, I didn't get the Trump aspect from his version
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: of the Cat, because I would say this is one
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: of the smartest version.
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: He's smart, tactical Lex.
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: Lutha versions that we saw and we know that this
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: president is not smart, but.
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: Win, I like crying attitude.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: I appreciate the like the tactical element of Lex Luthor,
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: and then also like.
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna say this is why I am but like.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: After watching this movie, I was like, you cannot tell
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: me that Lex Luthor, after like the obsession and I hatred, Like,
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: I was like, you cannot tell me that Lex Luthor
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: is not a repressed gay man so in love with
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: Clark Kent that well, he doesn't know Clark Kent is,
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: but so in love with Superman that he can't handle
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: it about he can't deal with it about himself. And
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: that's where that level of hatred is coming from. Because
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: he doesn't have that level of hatred for anybody. It's
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: specifically Superman. And it's like, in my mind it makes sense,
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: And obviously I know it's not literally what it is,
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: but I'm like, if if you find out that he's
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: like a repressed gay person and he's secretly in love
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: with this man, it would just make so much sense.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Like the level I mean, even just on a hate perspective,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: like it's usually the people that hate the most actually
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: love that other person sometimes sometimes like they.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: Talk about the studies of like all the most homophobic
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: men are secretly watching jerking off the gay porn.
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: Like, I'm like, that's Lex Luthor.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't know. That's never been done in the comics. Right,
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: they never did that. Take No, they never did that.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: That's what I was like, I know it's not gonna happen.
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: They did a version of that image called Irredeemable.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Well, here's my thing.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: I'm typically like I said, I mentioned that the flat
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: the Lex Luthor fliber I'm also the typical like Lex
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Luthor sympathizer as well, and this.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Is from years of seeing all the different iterations to him.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: I will say that Nicholas Hope did that with the
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: material he was given. He ate with what he was
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: told to work with. I think he did a phenomenal
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: job in that way. I don't know if I really
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: like this depiction of Lex Luthor. And again nothing about
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Nicholas as an actor. His acting was superb.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: He did what he needed to do.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: He had presence, I will say that, much better than
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Jesse Eisenberg and the rest of the holes back there,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: which which really to me like selling the name of
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Lex Luthor.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: So he made, he gave, He gave.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: The formidableness, he gave the presence all of that. At
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: the same time the material. When I say the material,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about the scripts, right, I'm talking about the
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: dialogue and all that stuff. I agree with you, it's
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: it took him to a place where it to me,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: it gave evil Jeff Bezos even more even idios and
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: it just gets it just gave I'm a billionaire that
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: wants to do whatever I want.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: It didn't give for me again, just someone.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Who is really down with Lex, like why his true
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: reasons for hate It's just like, oh, I'm hating because
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: I just don't like that nigga, like y'all. Like it
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: gave pure jealousy. And it's not to say that Lex
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: has never been jealous of soups. Yes, obviously he wouldn't
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: do half the shit he David was jealous. But it's
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: at least from like the animated series that was like
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: back on the w B back in the day, they gave.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: More death and even the comments.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: They gave more depth to why Lex really did not
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: fuck with him, and it wasn't just oh, because I
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: don't like this nigga's hair curls to the left.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: It wasn't that it was it was it.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Was more like from a political factor, like he was
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: like intrinsically opposed to the idea that this person from
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: another play, this thing as he calls it, from another planet,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: could come down and enjoy the rights and privile of
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: us on Earth who are suffering or other people who
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: are suffering for a multitude of reasons.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: And it goes even deeper than that. But that is
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: really the crux.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Of what for me, what Lex is concerned to say
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: it lightly was for Superman. It wasn't just because I
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: was jealous, so seeing Lex seeing this Lex and I
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: don't like that niggas just because you know, I hate
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: to hate.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Like I was just like.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: As a as a counterpoint to that, I think, and
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: like I said, because I did see it twice, when
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: you look at it through the eyes of like we
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: said before, a child like Lens, I think they really
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: do get both of those across one that the jealousy
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: is clearly there, but it is also stated that he
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: has a problem with Superman being an alien who looks
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: like human and represents this god like being on earth.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: That is it's.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Stated, but again, because it's this is a child approach,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: they're not going into it like it's stated.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: But then from what you see in his actions, it's whining,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: it's crying.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: And that's why I'm like, damn, Like you know, y'all
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: took it back down to the levels I don't like again,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: like y'all didn't keep him up here where he was.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: No, that's the problem with this film is that it
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: does do pretty much everything, and then even things that
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: are very adult are treated very childlike. And that was
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: one That's the one thing I have. You know, I'm
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: one of those people who feels like kids should be
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: able to see certain things. And I grew up on
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: a lot more violent things that I probably should have,
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: and this has nothing on the type of things that I.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: Grew up on, So I don't mind that.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: But there are violence, there is sex mentions, and there's
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: a lot of percy. So just to be aware of
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: that if you are a parent taking it right, yeah,
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: definitely has to be.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: I want to make sure we give again, just continue
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: to talk about these characters.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: I want to shout out of Rachel Brosnahan.
• 36:51
  Speaker 8: One time, I'm my other favorite.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Their connection was very like, it gave me classic Lois
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: again the Superman one two three, it gave me class
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: I said, Lois and Superman like yeah, or Clark rather,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: but it was like I felt them.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: I felt what they were doing again. I liked. That's
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: what I was very hype for this film.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Let me say that first, just from the trailers when
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: they have that conversation, the interaction when she's interviewing him
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: and he like gets pissed off and she's like, well,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: this is what they're gonna fucking ask you. That's that
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: reads real to me, Like Lois and Clark in relationship
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: right now, sitting on the couch and they're talking and
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: she's just like she is who she is, she's a reporter,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: she's she's ask questions.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: She even said as much.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: She asked what She's going to investigate everything, and he's
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: just gonna take shit at face value, right, and then
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: it's just like bruh, you can't do that. He's gonna
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: look at her like, well you need to care more, right,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: you need to trust more. And seeing that dynamic, it's
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: it's real, right. Edie his name is Edie or Eddie,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: but Eddie Eddieki. I really want to see him in
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: more stuff. I loved him as it's terrific. I understand
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: what you mean about like maybe one dimensional naughty, but
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: I just think that's because didn't give a lot of
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: time with him. And also that's kind of where he
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: that's how they've been, that's how Gun or whomever is
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: responsible for this really wrote the character like I'm not
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: And to me, it was like that that straight face,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: you know, the foil till all the slacks did going on.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: You needed that foil somewhere, and he was the foil.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I fucked with it, and I just liked
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: a black man that was just like y'all holds out
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: of control, let me do something that's actually going to
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: make the effective and let me like to me, like
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: ship had, the ship would get done and missus terrific
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: didn't pop out.
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: No.
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And he was really the only one that doesn't
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: have powers like hawk Guns has a ring o grat,
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: he has technology, but he's just a dude.
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: But he's just a dude.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: But he's a dude.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: He's just like, while y'all playing around, I'm getting shit done,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: and I like that.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: But he wasn't without humanity.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: He wasn't without like, you know, a giggle here and there,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: which is why I'm like, I would love to see
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: him in more in another situation.
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: And he got his moment to shine. One thing I
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: don't like.
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: I didn't necessarily like about the depiction of mister terrific.
• 39:04
  Speaker 8: And I said this to the black supportation, how do you.
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: But like it was giving like whether it was a
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: direction that James Gun gave or like Eddie Gettai's interpreted,
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: But it felt like he's like, let me blacken this
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: up a little bit. Like he definitely talked like like
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: he was trying in a black exploitation cheft movie. At
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: a certain point, I was expecting him to say job turkey.
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: I mean they gave him the wig, they gave him
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: the afro.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: So it was given a little black dynamite, I will
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: say that.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: And it's very interesting because I was reading an article
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: where he almost didn't want to do the role because
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: he thought that the mask presemble black face and I
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: had to convince him that it wasn't and etcetera, etcetera.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: You know, and how intelligent mister terrific is and all
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: these things, but that I don't have a.
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: Problem with the tea. No, it's just like the boy.
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah everything.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: I thought it was great, Like YA said, I thought
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: he had his great moment to shine. I feel like
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: he is one of the big stars of this film.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: On the low, I feel like a superman lowesst and
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: then mister Terrific as far as order of how people
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: are going to react to characters in this film.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: And then there's.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: That the second time I watched it, I could not
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: stop thinking about r DJ and Troupic Thunder.
• 40:29
  Speaker 8: That's all true.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: The voice was and it's give me the black dude.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: But you know, having seen him and that we know
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: he doesn't talk like all. This voice isn't his.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: It's like when you saw most when I saw Most
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Death in it's a twenty one miles. There's this movie
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: he's in where Most Stuff does this crazy voice throughout
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: the film, and I'm like, I know you don't sound
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: like this Most Death.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: I don't know why you're doing that.
• 41:01
  Speaker 8: Part of the whole.
• 41:02
  Speaker 7: Like, yeah, when comic accurate sometimes doesn't translate like it's
• 41:06
  Speaker 7: twenty twenty five. They didn't have to do Guy Gardner's hair.
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: They didn't have to do mister Terrific's hair. They didn't
• 41:11
  Speaker 7: have to do their costumes. I mean, if we're going to.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Kid, let's talk about him. Did you guys like Green Lantern,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Discreen Lantern, Nate.
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: I love ye, like Nathan Filly.
• 41:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Justice Gang was underutilized.
• 41:28
  Speaker 7: Mister Terrific had a point, he had a purpose, but
• 41:30
  Speaker 7: I feel like having hawk Girl was pointless.
• 41:32
  Speaker 8: In the movie, she was Dina. She was literally just Dina.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: What was with her hollering and who every time she
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: was like the scream, I'm like, that's not a battle cry.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I've watched enough just.
• 41:48
  Speaker 8: Yelled in the movie she could call.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Like that, Like that was new to me. I was like,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: whoa like that? It's just like she wasn't doing much,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: like especially when her little fight scenes the bit of a.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, she was like a magic carp She was
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: very ineffective in everything that she did in.
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: A magic carp he was.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: And I was just like, this is weird because I'm
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: used to Hawkeye hawk.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Man being effective, So I was just like, what's going on?
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: And also like even though they they did away with
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: that the what's his name? That it was previously hawked
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Man that he only got that five for Alice Hawkman,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Alvis Hodge. They gave him a chance to actually do
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: some real shit and be effective, and then they jumped
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: to this and I'm like.
• 42:28
  Speaker 8: I think that's back the whole guns.
• 42:29
  Speaker 7: I need a team, like he had to establish a
• 42:32
  Speaker 7: team instead of letting Clark have his own movie.
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: I don't know, bro, I still think it was I
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: still think it was Superman's movie despite the fact that
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: he had they had all these other characters, it was.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Still Superman's movie. I agree to that.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: They said still did a good job in centering who
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: the main guy was and these are supporting.
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: And yeah, while these other characters were underutilized, I think
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: the effectiveness of having them is to show that it's
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: a world, like we're not even in the fact that
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: like they mentioned like but.
• 43:03
  Speaker 7: It's that whole hypocriticalness because people are like, oh, Snyder
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: had this senate and this senate, and it's like, it's
• 43:08
  Speaker 7: world building.
• 43:09
  Speaker 8: It can happen.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: It's world But and I will say, I actually like
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: that about this film that they made a sho and
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: which is what a big situation issue I have with
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: MCU stuff is that they don't show that it's a
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: full world where everything is happening at the same time
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: and all of these people are in the same zone,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: country town, like one thing happens and it's affecting the
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: other things, or it's not because the people are not
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: flying to help, right Like there's a CW. Yeah, I
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: like that this film did that where it's just like
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: there's things happening, and Superman may may not be helping,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: but there's stings still happening, and it's still happening all
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: together in real time versus MCU. Half the time, they
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: don't acknowledge that it's happening or that it exists, right,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: and you got to guess, well, which timeline are we
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: in and all this other stuff, whereas is this it
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: was literally everyone existing at once.
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: Shit's happening, and at least DC has an excuse where
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: every hero has their own city metropolist, the flashes.
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: Cold City like cent Central City. Sorry, but like with
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: with Marble, all all these niggas in New.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: York, it's true everything in Chicago.
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: Doctor Strangers down the Street, Doctor Strangers down the Street,
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: Thunderbolts is happening. Spider Man, you ain't tell me Spider
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: Man ain't swinging through to be like, what the.
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: Hell is going on with this boy?
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: Cats as nosy as Kate Bishop hawked, was that we
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: saw right here, tell me she ain't going to like
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: what the fuck.
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: Is going on?
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: And we can do have to understand like threat levels
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: will require different levels of hero and all this fuff
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: I get it. Not every threat is gonna like you know,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: street threat levels, probably you're not gonna get r DJ
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: to pop out.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Also, you remember, like in a case of a Thunderbolt situation,
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: all them cats might have been like what the fuck
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: is going on? And then they sitting in their room
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: having nightmares? You know, you got remember Thunderbolts.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: It came through. It don't matter what they was doing
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: in the mayor.
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: Like why he ain't at least show him on the screen.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: Like would have been.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Getting back to Superman.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Like I will say, they are doing good job in
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: terms of just letting you know that this is a
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: world where everything is happening on the ones and everyone
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: is in there.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Like I like that.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like we had to wait two three movies
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: from now to introduce a characters like they was like
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: everybody's here right now and you can utilize them at
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: any time.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's also more we're also like judging Marvel
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: thirty movies in while they have a you know, all
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: these big budgets, et cetera. So he has that greatness
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: where he can say, Okay, I've got all these characters,
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: I can use him right now in the first film
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: out for Marvel also have freedom.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: And ya I'm talking about right now.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: You said thirty is why are we going so far back?
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: Like what I'm.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: Saying, Marvel does do that too. Marvel so far characters
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: in a movie, you.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Know that that matter or the ones that they build up.
• 45:59
  Speaker 6: We still ain't seeing Sean che since.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: Well he was in the now he's in the in
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: credit scene and he was standing around Yeah what credit?
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: Oh no, that was his incredit scene.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Was Yeah, at the end of the day, I'm still
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: a Marvel fan. I'm wearing the damn shirt. It's just
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: I did like enjoy that about Superman. This that they
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: they didn't wait, He didn't wait and try to build
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: it up. He was like, Hey, let's just throw them
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: niggas in now.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I didn't want to say one thing because Naddy.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: I guess you're a Snyder defender, but it's like, you
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: can't call shooting Jimmy Olsen in the face introducing world building,
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: you know, and that's what Snyder did, Like Snyder had
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Jimmy Olsen in some random soul.
• 46:40
  Speaker 8: That was stupid than that.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: I will yeah, And that's.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: What I'm saying, Like, while this is like and once
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: again I go back to that essence, like I didn't
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: I love Jimmy Olsen in this right loved it.
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: I thought he was so great because it got that
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: essence of Jimmy Olsen being this smart, capable the girls
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: love him all this, like girls, dudes, everyone loves Jimmy.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: You know, he's Superman's pal.
• 47:02
  Speaker 8: Like are we gonna get the watch?
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but it had it. Just that's especially on the
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: second view.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: I was like, it took me that second view and
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: to be Okay, I get where they're going with this.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: And when I got where they're going with this, I
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: love everything. And I mean all the goofiness. Oh my god,
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: Perry White. There's a goofiest moment in the world with
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: Perry White in this film. And the second time, the
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: first time I cried like what the fuck about watching?
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: And the second time I was sitting there like.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Perry's to me has always been especially
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: from the animation, I always been tongue in cheek, funny,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: like he always said some wild shit and done some
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: shit on on the on the low Skyler Gisondo, who
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: plays Jimmy Olsen, I like that you said that.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: I agree he is.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: I was like, he has he ever played Jimmy because
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: he looked like all of the Jimmy's combined, Like he
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: he looked and acted like every iteration of the Jimmy
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: you've ever seen in any multiverse, And like, I'm like,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: that's that like him?
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: So I mess with him.
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: I do wish she got the dynamic because because he
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: was supposed to be his best friend and I don't
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: really Yeah I.
• 48:07
  Speaker 6: Didn't get that from this movie.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah we didn't.
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: It wasn't really focused on that.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: It was more like Lowis and Clark as opposed to
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Jimmy and Calstion.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: It was a little Jimmy and Clark. It was a
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: little It was a.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Little bit, but but also isn't that more so like
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: when he's still building his like he was already dating
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: this spoiler.
• 48:24
  Speaker 6: No, it's not a spoiler.
• 48:25
  Speaker 8: I want to know.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: I wanted kissing that they kissing in the.
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: If he they know that she knows his identity.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, so that not friends with Jimmy, but he
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: got a girl now, so you know, and that's funny.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: Okay, now I know that that's not a spoiler. But
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: I didn't know that going in.
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: I did not.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: I didn't know that it was dating, that she knew
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: his identity.
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: You know. I didn't know that going me neither.
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: So we talked about Lowis and Clark, right, yeah, yeah, no,
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: I mean in the trailer, she's like, can I interview
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: you with Superman?
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: She did say that I missed that line.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: And I didn't put together I'm slow.
• 48:57
  Speaker 8: What I wanted to say, though, is what I did.
• 49:00
  Speaker 7: I really like is similar to The Batman, where he's
• 49:03
  Speaker 7: not Bruce Wayne yet he's still finding himself. It's so
• 49:06
  Speaker 7: it's not the same regular origin story. We didn't have
• 49:09
  Speaker 7: to see him falling from Krypton. I like that it's
• 49:12
  Speaker 7: in the middle. So that really worked for me because
• 49:15
  Speaker 7: he's more established than Tom Welling, but he's not like
• 49:18
  Speaker 7: Henry Cavill yet, so he's like in the beginning finding himself.
• 49:21
  Speaker 7: He's working as a journalist at the Daily Planet. He's
• 49:24
  Speaker 7: like figuring out like how to balance his life as
• 49:27
  Speaker 7: both and that that actually really worked for me because
• 49:30
  Speaker 7: we see his vulnerability. Even they mentioned like him being
• 49:33
  Speaker 7: like super naive and like trusting with people like that.
• 49:36
  Speaker 8: That was brilliant. Like that, I thought they nailed.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know we talked about the big bag lets,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: but what about his supporting bats. What did you think
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: about his his supporting team of bad people.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: I was tight about the architect because the architect is.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: Is she supposed to be like a feiora.
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: The engineer, the engineer, sorry, the engineer is part of
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: the authority, and the they were actually going to do
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: an authority movie when early on when they first announced it.
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: Because I know, I think they're still doing it, it's
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: just being pushed back.
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: I think, well, after this, after the way they treated
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: the engineering this, I don't know, we'll see, but yeah,
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: the engineer is a really dope character. And I felt
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: like they were reduced to pure henchman in this.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: It was very henchman like.
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: And she was definitely just a henchman and struggle Henchman
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: at that, and I mean like that when you talk
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: about a character straight up declaring their intentions and lifelihood
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: and dialogue.
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: It was yeah.
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: And I also never understood what her motivation, like why
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: because the authority aren't heroes, but they are.
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: Hero yeah, but they have a clear motivation.
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: So I've never understood why she's like, what made her
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: want to work with lex?
• 50:49
  Speaker 8: Yes, gave up my body?
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, there was no why.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: And you know, they said that they did these things,
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: and the engineer just has a much you know, iller
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: character and much deeper character than that. So it was
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: just to see them reduced to Henchman was like, okay,
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: all right, that's what we're going cool.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was a little weird.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Like I have mentioned again the old Superman movies, this
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: was very Superman too. Like I thought she was like
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: a Fiora clone. I thought the big one was a
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: what non I think that's the name non clone. Like
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: it just seemed like, Okay, we're just doing this again
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: and just in a different way. So and again throwaway
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: characters essentially that matter. Oh yeah, so I don't know.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: We talked about the coat, we talk of other stuff,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: just the direction, cinematography effects thoughts about that.
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: I think the cinematography is low, not the cinematography the CGI,
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: especially because they shot with like that long lens.
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: It looked a little weird to me at many points.
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: Even like as much as I enjoyed the Mister Terrific
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: fight scene, I'm like, this doesn't look that great.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: This CG and I looked like CGI, and that's negative
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: in my view, Like moments.
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: When he's flying and like because of the long his
• 52:04
  Speaker 5: body looks like, yeah, it's it's a fantastic long And
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: I'm like.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: I like the flying shots and I like the Kaisu shots.
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: I feel you on the Mister Terrific shots. That was
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: what that was definitely, oh this is you know all right.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: I didn't like the c G I looking like c G.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: I Like, I understand you can't really get a dog
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: to be doing all that stuff and all stuff, but
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: it's just like it felt fake when he was interacting
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: with the dog, like he was looking at a green
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: screen and I'm just like, damn Son, like okay, you know, yeah,
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: we never do to.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: Talk about the dog. Oh my god.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Thumbs upper, thumbs down for Crypto one two three go.
• 52:58
  Speaker 6: Anti dog. I have to call Pete.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: Half of thumb.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, I have a dog as well, And I was like,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: this stupid ass motherfucker, Like I just it was it's
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: going about was the dog was was the biggest star
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: next to Superman.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: He was the biggest star of it. And that was
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: clearly on purpose. That was cool. Like you said, I'm silvery,
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: you're trying to sell toys.
• 53:20
  Speaker 7: But I was just like, guys, enough enough.
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: I think the thing I liked about Crypto is it's
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: a very different version of like usually when you see
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: Crypto even in the comics, like, yeah, he's still a dog,
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: but he's like a dog that like kinda has human intelligence, Yeah,
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: understands thing. But this version of like, no, they just
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: he's a dog happen. It just happens to have Superman
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: like power. So I also like to appreciate the fact
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: that like it also kind of goes to show. Granted,
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: it's a kid's movie, so it's funny ha ha, but
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: it's also like, nah, this nigga is dangerous.
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: Like hella dangerous.
• 53:57
  Speaker 5: Even in the trailer when he Superman is hurt, he's
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: on the ground bleeding and the dog thinks it's playtime.
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: He's like Superman, Like if that was anybody else, they'd
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: be dead, like and that's something that happens like with Crypto,
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: like at the end of the movie.
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: And obviously no spoilers, but I'm just like, he should
• 54:15
  Speaker 6: be dead.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, you said dog.
• 54:22
  Speaker 6: He's home training.
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: But then when we see what happens that we we
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: understand why Crypto is the way.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: You said half a thumb, Nadia, why half.
• 54:32
  Speaker 7: The same thing? I just think he was there too much. Okay,
• 54:36
  Speaker 7: it's like but it's just it's it's too much. It's
• 54:40
  Speaker 7: too much, too much banter, like too much fan service,
• 54:43
  Speaker 7: too much like in your feet.
• 54:46
  Speaker 6: If they gave us Crypto, you think we're gonna get
• 54:48
  Speaker 6: a bathhound.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Deep cuts.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: I have no idea what you about I need And
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: all that weird is Batman's dog I'm having.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Everybody can't have a damn pet.
• 55:02
  Speaker 6: Now, Wayne Robin, he has.
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: You want to talk about Supergirl's horse, the LSD is strong.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: I Supergirl has a flying horse that she that turns
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: into a man, that was a man.
• 55:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah that's in love with her.
• 55:22
  Speaker 8: Sorry, but just back to that.
• 55:24
  Speaker 7: I was gonna say two things from CinemaCon that we got.
• 55:27
  Speaker 7: Rachel Brosnahan told us how she studied like actual journalists,
• 55:31
  Speaker 7: like she consulted with people for her character, and I
• 55:35
  Speaker 7: love that. I thought that was really strong. The other
• 55:38
  Speaker 7: thing we got is James Gunn obviously telling like a
• 55:41
  Speaker 7: self like a story about himself and his dog, like
• 55:44
  Speaker 7: he adopted a dog and the dog like ruined his
• 55:47
  Speaker 7: entire apartment. So that was kind of like his inspiration
• 55:50
  Speaker 7: for Crypto, And I was like, I get it, but like,
• 55:53
  Speaker 7: does every single aspect of your life have to be
• 55:55
  Speaker 7: in every movie that you do?
• 55:59
  Speaker 6: He put his wife in Brother than every movie.
• 56:01
  Speaker 7: Yeah, so yeah, oh yeah, no spoilers, no spoilers.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: The first time I saw it, I did not. It
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: was pure thumbs down to that damn dog. I mean
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: pure thumbs down, shout out talk. No, I didn't want
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: to say. I can't even say who said that. I'll
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: say that someone said that once they were finished watching
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: the movie, they wanted to put.
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: The dog down.
• 56:23
  Speaker 6: Damn. Yeah.
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: I don't want to say who said that because y'all
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: will give the may meal. On my second viewing, I
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: realized that Britto is not in near as much as
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: I thought he was the first.
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: Time, and he and a lot. No, it's not, he's
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: in there.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: It's just he's in there when he needs to be,
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: I guess, and he's in there enough to sell merch,
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: which he is purely there for. But I did enjoy
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: him the second time more because, like you said, he
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: just a goddamn dog who has superpowers.
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: And it's really hilary is because.
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: Like there's one line the Superman says about him later
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: on in the film that just has me fucking rolling
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: inside my head because it's the real ship ever about
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: this guy, damn Monster's dog.
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: The second time, I even go thumbs up.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: Because it's not it's it's right on the verge of overdone.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: But it's like everything in this movie. And I would
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: give James done that he wants a very fine line
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: between sincere and corny and goofy as fuck, and he
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: treads it very well. I would give him that.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: James stepped a few times from me, but.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: Oh he damn sure. I mean you gonna you know he's.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: He's an habitual line step up.
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: You already know this is what gun does.
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: You know he habitually steps lines and he does you
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: know more than once in this film, But I think
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: overall he's about seventy percent, you know, on the line.
• 57:53
  Speaker 6: And James Gunn loves his animals, whether it's Rocket yeah
• 57:59
  Speaker 6: and aliena no, you're right, you're right.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Again, we mentioned like effects and stuff like that. We
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: said a little bit of cinematography. Everyone generally was cool
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: with the cinematography, with you know, some questions there. There
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: were some transition questions I had while again it gave
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: some mintioned impossible stuff where it's like, why did you
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: make that transition there?
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: But okay, that's what you wanted to do.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, anything else or the score, anything else about the
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: film that you wanted to mention, Yes, score, Yes.
• 58:31
  Speaker 7: So I feel like he shoved it down our throat.
• 58:33
  Speaker 7: He literally beats you with the music more than Superman
• 58:36
  Speaker 7: beats people. It's music by John Murphy obviously the iconic
• 58:41
  Speaker 7: theme from Hans Zimmer and we also have John Williams
• 58:44
  Speaker 7: iconic Superman theme.
• 58:45
  Speaker 8: But I feel like every scene it plays, whether it.
• 58:49
  Speaker 7: Relates to the scene or not, it just it's just
• 58:51
  Speaker 7: like ten times in the movie we have the music
• 58:54
  Speaker 7: and it's like it's it's taking me out of the scene.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: Like I said, I felt this in Guardians three. I
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: hated when he used Beacie Boys in that movie. It's
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: no sleep to Brooklyn, it's always. And my problem with
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: gun is he's running these filmmakers where he uses music
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: a lot, but it's not very rhythmic in the editing
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: and the shooting, and so because of that, it's just like,
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: all right, dude, I get it. You know, you had
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: another seventies rock song, and I think I.
• 59:21
  Speaker 6: Wish there was more score and less soundtrack.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: I agree there it is there.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say there's a little bit of a difference there.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: And this the soundtrack he chose us very White.
• 59:32
  Speaker 6: The song that played miss the terrific battle scene.
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: I was like, what am I don't think.
• 59:37
  Speaker 7: I.
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: Mean, especially in that voice.
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: You had this man talking and you should have had
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: some fucking Isaac Hayes.
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: I'm glad he ain't do that.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: If we would have, we would have been we would
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: have been that theater.
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: Like I can't believe that he's throwing off. If he
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: throw on some one of bangers, I wouldn't have been mad.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: I talking about like a bang.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: Dare you you know it?
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 6: You know you you complain just like me. Complain about
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 6: the black boys.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: So like, if you had that about the way hilarious
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: because every other song is white as fun and then
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: you throw this black song.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 6: On, I would have loved it. I would have loved it.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 6: Go all the way in. You would have know he
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 6: would have he would You would have mad.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: I would have been so mad because I already I'm
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: already called this man the gift and the curse of
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: this film, So just extended the gift the curse.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: Uh with that?
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: Just your final thoughts and if you would recommend this
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: movie and the rating you give it.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: Mmm mm hmm.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: I would recommend this film. I would definitely recommend this film.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: I had to say that. And go in with childlife viewpoints.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: Don't go in thinking you have any you know any
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: I won't say any idea what you're about to see.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: But don't go in thinking that, oh, Superman needs to
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: be like this. Go in and say, well, let me
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: see what they're bringing to the Superman. And if you're
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: a James Gunn fan, I think you'll enjoy it.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: Be open minded, Yeah, be open minded?
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I dive it about a.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: C plus B minus be minus.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: I think yeah, uh not your you go. What do you?
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 8: What do you?
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: What are your last final thoughts and your rating and
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: would you recommend the movie?
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 7: He described it as like lighthearted and wholesome. I said,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 7: Gun does what he does best, Like he has beautiful
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 7: world building.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 8: That's one thing I think he nails.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 7: Like he gave us a lot more like alien life
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 7: and like some really cool scenes that I feel like
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 7: make a little more fantastical, which can work.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 8: The characters obviously lovable.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 7: It's the spirit of Superman, but I don't think that's enough.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 7: I think, like, as I mentioned, this excessive exposition, a
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 7: lot of the dialogue is nonsense and things a normal
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 7: person would never say. And it's Guardians of Metropolis, that's
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 7: how I described it's Guardians of the Galaxy, for it
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 7: just takes placed in the DC universe. But I still
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 7: think it's fun. As you mentioned, it's a kids movie.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 7: Like I told one of my friends who's actually like
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 7: a big Snyder fan, I was like, your kids are
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 7: gonna love it, and he's like, oh yeah, like we're
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 7: gonna go see it. I was like, go see it
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 7: in imax, Like I think the kids will love it.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 8: So I still think go see it.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 7: But I think like we were mentioning, like you have
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 7: to go in with the mindset that this is not
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 7: for us, it's for children, and kid things are very
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 7: hit or miss for me. But I think if done well,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 7: like I absolutely love Miss Marvel the irony of me,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 7: who's like punisher fucking shoot everybody. I think Miss Marvel
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 7: was the best Disney show, hands down. So I think
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 7: it can be done well if it's good writing. I
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 7: don't think it has to be written like as if
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 7: you're stupid, And I kind of think this Painter is
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 7: a little bit to that, making everyone dumb, even like
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 7: the parents.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: But what you're rating, you could still be leiterating on
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: one to ten six six right in the middle.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, mister black gay comic geek.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 6: So I think the movie is fun. I would totally
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 6: recommend it.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: I think also because we're critics and we watch a
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: lot of movies and wear a bunch of nerds, like
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: someone like even like, oh, it's very.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 6: James Gunny and a lot of we He's repeating a
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 6: lot of the same things that we've seen before.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: The general audience is not gonna notice or really care
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 5: about anything like that. All they really care is, like,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 5: can I take my kids to this. This is gonna
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 5: be something I feel like you could take your kids too.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: Like it's bright, it's vibrant, your Superman is a hero.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: It makes you hope again and so and I think
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: the characters are strong enough in this movie that at
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: least for me, a lot of the flaws that I have,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: which I mean, I would agree with Nadia, you, Tatiana
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  Speaker 5: and Ben like, I agree with that, But I think
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  Speaker 5: the characters are strong enough for me that at least
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  Speaker 5: overcame like it made me want to see more of
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  Speaker 5: this world, more of these characters, more of the DCU,
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  Speaker 5: and then also hopefully we get to see more Superman
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  Speaker 5: and lowesst and we get Jonathan.
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  Speaker 6: Kent his his gay son. So like, uh, but yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I was just true.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, I would recommend, I would recommend uh people
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  Speaker 5: see this movie. And I would give it like a
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  Speaker 5: seven point five out of ten.
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  Speaker 2: All right, and my personal sentiments remain on the fence.
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  Speaker 1: I can put my personal views aside to say that
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  Speaker 1: there is an absolute audience for this Yes, it is
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  Speaker 1: geared towards children, but I do think just someone who's
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  Speaker 1: looking for something different in the Superman story from all
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  Speaker 1: of the past, darkness and gloom would appreciate this. They
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  Speaker 1: appreciate the levity of it, They appreciate the comedy of it,
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  Speaker 1: the weirdness of it even much even more so, they
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  Speaker 1: appreciate the underwear outside the tights. I think if you
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  Speaker 1: if you, if you're ready for that, then you're you're fine, right,
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  Speaker 1: Like you'll be good.
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  Speaker 2: I will.
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  Speaker 1: I would rate it probably six and a half seven,
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  Speaker 1: because again, lots of merits and lots of things where
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  Speaker 1: I just had questions.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I agree a lot with.
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  Speaker 1: What you said, Michael, Like I am a critic, so
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to look at this a bit more critically
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  Speaker 1: than the next person.
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  Speaker 3: One last thing I do want to add, I really
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  Speaker 3: loved how I think Nadia was talking about just how
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  Speaker 3: the world budding and how lived in the world feels,
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  Speaker 3: and not in a like Star Wars way where it
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  Speaker 3: feels worn out and dirty. It's where everyone, at least
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  Speaker 3: in Metropolis, is very used to the idea of meta
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  Speaker 3: humans and very medi human type events happening around them
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  Speaker 3: and it's just not that big a deal to them, And.
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  Speaker 4: I thought that was very cool. That always harkens back
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  Speaker 4: to the great Superman stuff. That I love and no.
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  Speaker 3: I came home and when I was walking home, I
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  Speaker 3: was walking into my house and my next door neighbor
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  Speaker 3: he has two young sons. I want to say they're
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  Speaker 3: about eight and six. I'm not exactly sure, but I
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  Speaker 3: will tell them tomorrow. But my first thought when I
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  Speaker 3: saw them was like, YO, take your kids to see this?
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  Speaker 6: Take your kids.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna tell them. I'll just be like, yo,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you're thinking about Superman, but taking kids.
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  Speaker 4: To see this joint?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And also you go for guys listening if you're wondering.
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  Speaker 1: There is a mid a short mid credit scene and
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  Speaker 7: I don't ever wear glasses, but these are like my
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