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Cyclone talk with Bill Seals, Hawkeyes with John Bohnenkamp & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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I'm Hillary Compton, welcome back.
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Our second hour, Trent and I with you until 2:00 off the
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bench. Lucas, Sean from 2:00 until 5
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overtime Iowa from 5:00 until 6 still to come this hour, John
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Bowen Camp will join us at the about 1:25 or thereabouts.
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We'll recap. I women and I were men yesterday
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with John B. Did you have him last week?
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I did. Is he already talking Dodgers?
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Or did you look good? Yeah, cut him off.
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Good, he tried. He was trying to chirp.
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Yeah, man, baseball right around the corner.
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Yeah, not a very exciting baseball.
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Season for me. I feel bad for you.
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Your your aces now, Lopez. Now is he out for the year?
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For sure, yeah. Surgery.
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It's over. Yep, it's already over.
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It's over. And then Joe Ryan.
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He he yeah, and and when he is healthy, he won't make it past
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the trade deadline would. He You wouldn't think so you.
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Shouldn't. No.
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Let's get to Bill Seals. He covers Iowa State, the women
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and the men. Men play tomorrow night, 8:00
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against Utah. Bill Trenton.
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Ken, thanks for coming on. Bill Seals, How are you, Sir?
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I'm doing great, guys. Appreciate you having me on.
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Kenny, are you going to cut me off if I start talking about US
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hockey in Canada yesterday or is that going to be like the Dodger
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talking? No, it's no.
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You know what? It's yesterday, right after the
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game was over. I was not in the best of moods,
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but it was a hell of a game and I think it's great for the
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sport. So.
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So we'll we'll leave it at that. You know what doesn't since you
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opened up that door? Just just one more thing I meant
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to ask Joe O'Donnell. This will join us in the first
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hour. If you were to pull the players
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in that game yesterday, would you rather win a gold medal or
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Stanley Cup? They would say the Stanley Cup.
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Yeah. I don't get it.
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I never have. I Wouldn't You rather win a gold
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medal for your country? I would.
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I don't know. How about you, Bill?
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I, I think, I don't know, maybe it's changed now that I, I guess
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the pros are playing again. I don't know, maybe if that over
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time if that perception or will will change.
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But yeah, I mean, that's an interesting question.
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I guess I've never been in their shoes.
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I probably couldn't answer it accurately.
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I want to pose it maybe to Ken this way then, and maybe this
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will get your gears turning, you win a gold medal for the
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Canadian National team or you deliver a Stanley Cup to your
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home team, the Winnipeg Jets. What if I put it that way?
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Would that tilt you at all? The Canadians won a lot of gold
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medals. They have.
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The Jets have never won anything.
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No, nothing. Look at well, they got a pretty
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good goal. Yeah, thanks.
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Yeah, take him there. Yeah, the country, the country's
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aware of that now, will come into the playoff when I was when
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I was a kid in the driveway or, or ranked by myself, I was
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winning the Stanley Cup, right? So, yeah, maybe I don't know.
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Anyways, Bill, let's talk Iowa State and let's start with the
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women because you know what, they had such a big chance
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yesterday and and after three quarters, they got a nine point
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lead. You're thinking, wow, this would
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be a huge, huge win if they can find a way to, you know, get
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through this next 10 minutes and come up on come out on top.
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But it just wasn't to be in that one, that one, that one got
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away, Bill, that one. I mean, I don't own the grand
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scheme of things how big that loss is going to be.
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But you know what, I know it would have been a huge, huge
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feather in their cap had to come out on the winning side.
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Yeah, I really, really would have been a huge win and I think
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a great time of year to get a win like that at TCU.
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It's a ranked 12th at the time. And they, you know, they had
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their their chances. They had that what I think a 12
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point lead with around 7 minutes to go and, and, and let it let
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that one slide and the TCU ends up and ends up winning going
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away. And I think I, Iowa State really
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for most of that game, defensively had done a pretty
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good job against Olivia Miles. But you think player of her
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caliber, Yeah, player of her caliber.
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I guess it was only a matter of time before she got going.
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And she ends up with 26. Well, she has a triple double,
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26 points, 10 rebounds, 10 assessment.
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Yeah, just a remarkable game out of her.
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But gosh, on the road in Fort Worth, that's a nice crowd that
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they played in front of yesterday on the road and almost
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was able to to steal 1. And I think although Kemp comes
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in a losing effort, they got a chance to finish out the regular
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season. I think strong, a couple of
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wins, certainly I I think doable as as they go into the Big 12
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tournament for Coach Finley's crew.
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Two games back now for Addie Brown, they got the dominating
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victory in her return against Arizona State.
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Before yesterday now, I didn't see much of the Arizona State
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game. Saw quite a bit of the game
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yesterday against TCU. However, there are times that
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you can see she just doesn't look real comfortable.
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People out there coming back from the knee injury, the hope
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is. That's what it was.
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It wasn't. Me that it's going to improve
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and she's going to get better, but kind of looks a little
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lumbering out there a little time.
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Doesn't seem to be have all the different things that we're used
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to with Addie Brown. What have you seen out of her?
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Yeah, I think the the offense probably going to be the last
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thing to come around with with her.
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The nature of that injury. She hasn't shot the ball
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particularly well. But I I think also she's showing
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how she's such a winning player for this Iowa State team though
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too. She goes out to just 4 or 16
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from the floor, but goes out and get 7 rebounds, a couple of
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assists. I think a similar line, maybe
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not as much scoring in the game before that against Arizona
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State, but I think she's going to round in the form.
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I I think over the next next week or two as they get down to
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Kansas City. And I think they're they're
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going to be happy that that she was able to get back when she
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did kind of work work off the rust here these last couple
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regular season games. And then I think she's going to
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be ready to go down in Kansas City for for this Iowa State
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team. And they they'll get there as
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what, a six seed in the tournament, Bill, somewhere
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around there. Looking looking like that yeah I
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I thought with a win against at TCU yesterday maybe a chance to
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get a little higher than that. But certainly these last two
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regular season games are are ones that they can win.
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And but yeah, I think they're looking probably somewhere
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around that sixth line. It's.
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Going to be there a little bit earlier than we're used to now.
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It's different with the 16 team league than what we've done in
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the past, but not very often we see Iowa State playing in one of
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the opening rounds. So used to them being a top four
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seed and and having the potential there.
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What is the best path? I mean, is it as simple as just
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out of the other side of the bracket from TCU well.
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Yeah, I mean that that's, that's probably the case.
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I think that although you you've seen how this team plays,
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they're they're capable. I think they're capable of
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beating well, they show they're capable of beating anybody in
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anybody in the league. They, with the way they played
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yesterday at TCU on their home floor, we've seen him go on the
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road and beat some of those upper upper division teams in
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the conference. So, yeah, I think anything's
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possible, really. And you know, going down to
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Kansas City, they're going to, they're going to have a good
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crowd down there as always, and Hilton South.
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And so, yeah, I mean, anything's possible with this team.
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They they, they've shown they can play with TCU and then maybe
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could get an upset down there, who knows?
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And when Senior Day gets here, I'm I'm guessing you haven't
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done theirs. Are you right?
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They'll they'll wait till. You it's going to be, yeah, it's
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going to be this week. Gotcha.
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And there's one senior on the roster, is that right?
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Yeah, it it's not. Yeah, that is, that is pretty
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wild. You know, assuming everyone
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comes back next season, that's going to be a heck of a a senior
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day next year when they they get everyone back.
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And you know, that's not even counting Ariana Jackson,
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obviously the big three, but yeah, this has kind of been a
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young team and and junior LED team.
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So yeah, they'll get out there and they'll honor Sidney Harris
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against before the Kansas State game.
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Go to the men and Saturday night it was he got the bond stressed,
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right? I mean he is so freaking good.
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Just it's not the scoring ability.
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Yes, that's a huge component to it.
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But he does everything. He is such a talented,
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well-rounded player and when he's playing like that, going to
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be hard for many people to go into that beat that BYU team.
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Yeah, I mean, you saw just what kind of player he is and, and
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the kind of player he is on both sides of of the floor.
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I I think everybody talks about what he what he went out and did
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on offense. But I'll tell you what, he did a
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remarkable job against Milan. A lot of that game, he took it
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upon himself to to try to take him out of out of the equation.
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And he's able to. Yeah, I was going to say it
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worked. He was one of Milan was one of
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five from the field, one of four from three held to five points.
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You know, also Gillian continues to struggle a little bit.
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He played 20 minutes and that game had three points.
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So, yeah, but definitely I think Milan was the the of the the BYU
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defense. Jefferson also didn't shoot the
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ball particularly well. He did have 13-8 and seven,
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though. Not a not a good shooting night
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for him. But yeah, I mean, it, it was a
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game that that BYUII think with with its defense, probably an
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unheralded defense. We've all talked about the the
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weapons that they've had with Saunders when you factor him in
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with their other two, their other two top scorers.
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So yeah, I think it played out a little favorably for BYU, kept
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the scoring down. So yeah, I mean it, it was kind
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of a perfect storm. Iowa State ran into there on on
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Saturday night, late night, Saturday night.
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Late night indeed, if there is such an award for the for the
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freshman of the year in in men's basketball, I mean, obviously
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Toure would have been a, you know, an overwhelming favorite.
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But the way Bateman is coming on and played is playing some big
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minutes, I guess point being Bill and they've been on the
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floor at the same time all three of them seemingly more so down
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the stretch than others. Bateman is really coming on to
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me. They've got something there.
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We know Torre, yeah, he scores, but when he's not scoring, man,
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he's such a junkyard dog defensively.
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I love the way he guards and and Plato for what he brings to the
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what he brings to the floor. All that size and he's getting
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better. Those those are three, I think,
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core pieces that obviously TJ hopes to be able to build with
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for a few years. Huh.
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Yeah, I think so. And that that's how Iowa State's
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going to do business. I think under under TJ, they're
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going to that continue to recruit at that at the high
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school level. I think they've got they've got
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another good group coming in next season.
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And and they'll they'll bring those guys in and try to retain
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the the core group of guys coming back next season.
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But yeah, I agree, Kenny, it's kind of a with with Torre and
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Bateman right now. It's like you, you they're kind
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of, I think Bateman's taken a lot of Torre's minutes, but you
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can't really totally rule out Torre just because of what he
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brings on the defensive end. He's kind of going through a
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little bit of a funk on offense. But yeah, Bateman, you know, and
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Bateman's a guy too. He's a bought in on the
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defensive side of the floor ever since he got to Ames.
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That kind of hit, that outside shot, that the driving ability,
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the offensive game probably I think was like the calling car
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to his going in. But he's bought in on defense.
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So yeah, you look at what they've gotten off the bench
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though, with with Plato inside. TJ talked a lot about last week
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about how it's been a luxury to have someone like a Plato to go
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with a Buchanan and how well those two guys complement each
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other. And then Heise, yeah, he's not a
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freshman, but he's another one of those bench guys that I've
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said it for a while now, I think this bench for Iowa State,
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that's going to be the difference in how far they go in
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in the postseason. Because you're going to run into
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some of those nights where another team has got someone
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that can lock down Milan and, you know, maybe you're not
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getting a good scoring night, shooting night from Jefferson.
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They've got to have someone come in off the bench like they've
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gotten with Bateman. You know, play plate has been
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big inside. Heisey's hitting some big shots
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from outside. So again, I think this, you
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know, this three man bench and TJ's rotation is going to say a
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lot and in how far this team goes.
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So you never want to have one loss turn into two.
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It's not a very good Utah team. They're 2 and 12 in the
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conference. But you're out there, you're
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hanging out for a while. It's potentially maybe it's
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Utah. I mean, there there's a lot of
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factors here that you kind of look at and say maybe this will
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be a weird one tomorrow night. What is, is there anything Utah
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just actually on the hardwood they appoint to and say maybe
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that could be a problem for ISU tomorrow night?
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Well, I think it's the team that's that started to play play
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better. I think that they got they got
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one out on the road and beat I believe it was West Virginia
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here in the last week or so. So they're they're starting.
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They're, they're not a team that's totally in the tank that,
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that you're just totally counting 100% on them being able
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to go on the road and get a win like that.
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But you know, similarly, I think with with BYU, you look at the
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scoring and, and the breakdown there, they've got 2A guys and
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Terrence Brown, Don McHenry, both those guy what, 20.217
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point, 4 points. So similarly, I think with BYU,
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you were looking at Debansa, you're looking at the other guy
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with, with BYU. So they've got two guys Iowa
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State is going to have to devote some assets to to those guys.
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Brown don't certainly don't want him to to get loose and and and
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and have a big game. But yeah, I think just with this
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Utah team again, I they're they're playing well, well down.
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It's not been a great year for them, but they've so and I think
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the ability to go out on the road, get a get a big win.
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It's not a team that's really going away.
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I think they're still, they're still fighting out there to do
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as much as they can down the stretch.
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Any football news bill? Well, I put up something again
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out of those assistant coach availabilities we have later
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earlier this month as kind of a treasure trove of information
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out out of that that I'm sprinkling in here over the the
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two 3-4 weeks. But yeah, I mean, we're just in
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it. We're in a dead period right now
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with recruiting. But you'll, you'll notice some
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guys have been tweeting out that they're getting official visits
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set up. I've had four of those confirmed
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so far. So just some news on the OV
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front. Hard to believe in the end of
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May and and June, they're announcing those right now, but
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they'll have a junior day coming up on on March 7th once things
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open back up and then it'll be right into spring ball.
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So just as far as the football thing goes, still kind of some
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of those assistant coach availability, some features out
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of that and then some recruiting news.
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We got the bracket revealed at least the top 16 men's side over
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the weekend. Iowa State, the final number one
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seed, of course took the loss but still in really good shape.
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Were you surprised at all by that Bill?
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And and what does it say going forward here, the resume that
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they built and still the potential of that number one
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seed? Yeah, I mean it it, I think it
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shows that the amount of respect that this this program has
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gotten. I think it it was kind of
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interesting to some of the bracketologist out there had had
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Iowa State on the two line. I'm not in fact, I'm before that
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bracket reveal. I'm not sure I had seen one
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where they had been a A1 seed. So now you've kind of started to
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see that change a little bit even after the loss at BYU seems
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like a lot more respect on Iowa State following that bracket
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reveal and and what they had dropped to.
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I think that the six overall see that even after that loss at at
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at BYU and and the AP poll even that not really related to the
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bracketology stuff, but they moved up two spots.
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So I think that's another sign of the respect.
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Iowa State goes one and one loses at BYU moves up two spots
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in the AP poll. Usually fan the Iowa State fans
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are the ones complaining when other teams do something like
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that and Iowa State gets the benefit of the doubt here.
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So again, and I, I think, I think, you know, one thing
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favorable to for Iowa State, Michigan lost and that moved
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Michigan I think off of that one line and that I think then they
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can accommodate both Michigan and Iowa State in the same
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regional. And that would put obviously
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Iowa State into the Midwest and and a Saint Louis to Chicago to
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the Final Four path, which is always fortuitous with that as
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well as the Cyclone fan base travels.
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Their bracket, they had some media members there, I don't
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think any of them prior to the unveiling at Iowa State on the
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one. But regardless, they're rarefied
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air and they're in a good spot as we head into March.
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So last thing for me this, when we speak next week, it will be
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March. Have we seen any football news
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as to when they're going to start their spring practices for
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football Bill? No, I, I think I had seen a few
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weeks ago one of the recruits had had tweeted out like a
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graphic with the spring dates on it.
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But it, it will be starting. I, I want to say it's, it's
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starting the week like that first Monday after spring break.
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They, they won't bring things up and start and then break and
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then get ramp back up again. So I want to say it's that, that
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Monday following spring break that they'll get going and then
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I believe everything concludes. It's that Saturday, April 25th,
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I think is what the date is on. That is when they'll wrap up.
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And I, I would anticipate fans being welcome in there.
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It's going to be, it's not really going to be a spring game
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type of setting. It'll be like a showcase type of
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deal, but fans for the first time will be able to to see all
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the new players and this nearly entirely flipped roster can put
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eyes on those guys for the first time.
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No question, I think that's going to be very valuable.
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Bill Seals, cyclonereport.com, part of on three media rivals,
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etcetera. Bill Seals joins us each and
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every Monday. Bill, thanks for popping on.
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We will talk to you in a week's time.
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Thanks, Bill Seals. Sounds good.
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Appreciate it guys. Have a good one you.
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Do the same Bill Seals on Iowa State.
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Take your time out. John Bowencamp covers Iowa.
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Iowa College hoops.com, Associated Press.
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I will do men's and women's with Mr. Bowencamp Next.
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It's Miller and Condon on Des Moines Sports Station 106.3
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KXNO. I'm Hillary Condon.
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Welcome back, Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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Trenton Ken with you until the top of the hour.
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Let's get to John Bowen Camp. He covers Iowa for The
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Associated Press, Iowa College hoops.com.
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And he joins us. John Trenton.
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Ken, thanks for coming on. John Bowen Camp, how are you?
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I'm good. How you guys doing?
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Doing OK. I was in your part of Iowa a
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couple of times over the last couple of weeks as I made way,
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way through. Very lovely part of the state
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John really is. It is.
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It is in the good train watching.
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Too good train watching through absolutely.
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Let's let's start with the women and you guys correct me if I'm
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wrong, because years run together.
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This would be the end of the Caitlin Clark's back-to-back
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Final Four team Senior Day yesterday with the two seniors,
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Furback, Fureback and Stalky. That's it, right?
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Am I missing anybody? They're all gone.
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Then and and Taylor McCabe. And Taylor McCain?
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Thank you. And now we we say that and then
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of course, somebody will win a loss this summers and allows
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everybody a fifth year of eligibility and then I'll be
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back. Yeah, no, I mean, but yeah, this
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is this is it. This is the final last few games
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of that era. Yeah, that's wild when you put
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it that way, right? What an arrow it was.
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'Cause they don't have any juniors on the roster, they.
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Don't think they do. No, it's all sophomores.
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And freshmen, very young squad overall.
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John, we talked about this game earlier today and one thing that
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jumped out is just the defense of this squad can play and not
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just the Caitlin Clark era, but just overall the Lisa Blooter
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era defense was not exactly Iowa women's basketball calling card.
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This team can defend and to do this against the Michigan team
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that UCLA on the ropes were nip and tuck against UConn.
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This, They didn't look like it yesterday, but this is a good
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Michigan team and Iowa defensively just had them
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completely out of sorts. Yeah, I mean, held them to their
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season low in points. And I mean, they they have left
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3 field goals last quarter, you know.
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Yeah, I mean, it's it's it's a good defense and why it's such a
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good defense is it? You know, they've always been
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good kind of on the back end with the post they've had now
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they're really good out front too.
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And so they're just really is so.
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And for a lot of teams, there's been just nowhere to work.
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And you think back to where they were just, I mean, even a few
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weeks ago when when they got beat by Minnesota, they gave up
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a bunch of the threes in that game.
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They've gotten consistently better since then.
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So yeah, this is, this is as good a defense as I as I've seen
21:47
there in the wild. In the fourth quarter, you
21:48
brought it up, John, the fact that you knew Michigan was going
21:51
to need to, you know, to get active offensively and for the
21:54
fact that they just totally took them out of their game and shut
21:58
them down. So what's the ceiling for this
22:00
team, John? Obviously UCLA is a whole
22:02
different breed, right, when it comes to that, to the
22:04
conference. They're they're breathing
22:06
different air than everybody else.
22:08
But what is What's the ceiling for Jensen's group?
22:10
Do you think you see him a bunch?
22:13
I, I mean they, I, I think they, I'm pretty sure they can get to
22:16
the second weekend. You know, a lot's going to
22:19
depend on where they're seed. If they're two or three seed in
22:22
a regional, you know, they can get to an Elite 8.
22:26
But The thing is, I mean, when you, when you look at women's
22:28
basketball that you, you look at there's, there's maybe you know,
22:31
there's that 5 or 6 teams in that upper tier and then you
22:34
kind of go down there in that second tier.
22:37
OK. And I do think they could get to
22:38
an Elite 8. But you know, they've, they've
22:40
kind of shown this year when they played UConn, when they
22:42
played UCLA that they've that they really struggle.
22:45
So, you know, in A1 game situation, could they be one of
22:49
those teams? Absolutely.
22:51
But you know, a lot of it just depends on on where they're
22:54
seeded, how they're you know, who kind of is in the regional
22:57
and how they kind of match up with them.
22:59
But I do think second weekend for sure and, and, and, and
23:03
quite possibly in the lead eight runs.
23:05
So we see Taylor Stremlo now in the starting lineup.
23:07
She came in a couple of games ago at a deal after how well she
23:10
played right after the injury of to McCabe in that Ohio State
23:13
game. Hasn't been there for Addie deal
23:15
since she was inserted in and now it's Stremmelow.
23:17
Somebody that you always can tell is confident.
23:20
I mean, she does not lack for confidence and it doesn't matter
23:22
the shot doesn't matter the past.
23:23
She thinks she can make it. Every single time you couple it
23:26
though, it feels like it's all starting to click with her.
23:29
She's a well liked person. She's kind of taken over.
23:31
I think that Jada Jimfi role as you know, the the clubhouse mom,
23:34
if you will, She's got that component to her.
23:36
Every time her recruit comes in, oh, they're going to hang out
23:38
with Stremmelow. She's that kind of personality.
23:41
But she's got some game too to go with it.
23:43
If she shoots the ball like she has really outside of yesterday,
23:45
coupled with what she can do in passing, she is just a huge
23:48
difference maker I think for this group.
23:50
Oh, yeah. I mean, and you saw some of
23:53
those flashes last year as a freshman and you know, this year
23:56
there just was, you know, they were just older players ahead of
24:00
her. So their minutes were kind of
24:01
limited. You know, with the McCabe
24:03
injury, they they tried Addie deal.
24:05
As you said, it didn't work in now, you know, Stremel is coming
24:08
in and it really has kind of solidified that back court in my
24:12
mind. And you know, in case of Addie
24:14
Deal, I think what she is running into is, is what you
24:17
call, you know, freshman February.
24:19
You know, I think every, you know, so many freshmen run into
24:23
that when they get into February that it's been a very long year
24:27
when you think back to where they started in the summer.
24:30
And I think sometimes players just kind of run out of gas.
24:32
And I think that's kind of happened to her.
24:34
She's going to be a really good player down the road.
24:36
But I think right now it's just kind of hit a wall at this.
24:38
Point let's go to the men's game yesterday.
24:41
Men's not so fortunate as as the women were they were on the road
24:44
was a game. I had the lead after 20 minutes,
24:47
but Wisconsin able to put them away and then pull away late in
24:51
the basketball game. So when you when you got through
24:54
with your chores working the women and got over to the men.
24:58
Obviously, I I keep saying a bit of kind of rings true right as
25:02
as starts go, so go the Hawks and that's been the way it's
25:06
been all year. But they are getting some other
25:08
help. I think Garris to me is one of
25:10
the guys that's really got A and, and, and, and I think he
25:13
can, he's got a chance maybe to elevate his game even another
25:18
notch as we get set to move into March for the men.
25:22
Yeah, but I think what you've seen out of him is kind of what
25:25
Ben McCollum said at the beginning of the year, that you
25:27
knew they were going to be up and that he saw a lot of ups and
25:30
downs with it during the summer, you know, the time that they did
25:33
have with the summer and then in the fall.
25:35
And he's like, you know, we need consistency out of him.
25:38
And really, for this team to be a good team, when you get into
25:42
March, to get into the MCA tournament, he is going to have
25:46
to be consistent. It's got to be, you know, it
25:48
can't be, you know, 1516 points one night freeze right, you
25:52
know, or, or really good effort on the defensive end one night
25:55
and and not a good effort the next night.
25:58
He has to be consistent. If he can be consistent, he can
26:01
pair with Ben Sturtz and then that becomes a lot better team,
26:04
I think. But it's just a matter of of
26:06
just attaining that, you know, two to three-game consistency
26:10
that you want to see out of, out of an older experienced player
26:13
like that. Cooper Koch is not an
26:15
experienced guy, really. His first run through, though he
26:18
played a little bit last season. The injury derailed his freshman
26:21
campaign, now a red freshman, a goose egg in the rebounding.
26:24
Department, that's hard to do. He had a goose egg in the
26:26
rebounding department against Maryland.
26:28
He played a combined 71 minutes in those games and the shots
26:31
just not falling and talk about hitting that wall.
26:33
Definitely probably the case there.
26:35
But if you're going to play 71 minutes of basketball on the
26:37
road, you got to get more than a rebound, more than 0 rebounds
26:41
that he had. That's a big problem there.
26:43
I know what they're liking to do.
26:44
And defensively, is it time to start to say, you know what, we
26:48
have a veteran in Alvaro Fool Garris.
26:50
We need to be even giving more because they're just not getting
26:52
enough right now. From Cooper Koch.
26:55
Well, and that is the thing they do need production.
26:58
And when we say production, it's not just points, it's rebound,
27:01
the steals, whatever out of other guys.
27:04
And yesterday they didn't get that.
27:06
And so in Cooper Koch's case, even you, you want to have him
27:10
out there, but at the same time, at some point in the game, if
27:12
he's not producing, you got to you got to circle some guys in
27:16
some more and, and, and do some things with him.
27:18
And and so I think that's, you know, again, things that you're
27:22
going to, you know, they really have to to kind of shore up here
27:25
in the next couple of weeks is to get that production from
27:29
everybody who's out of that court.
27:30
You can't have a lot of zeros on that box score anymore.
27:33
Nope, Take this one here. Nope, I couldn't agree with you
27:36
more. Tate Sage had a game and he
27:38
hadn't, you know, played like he's had yesterday in a while.
27:42
It was good to see Tate Sage, who certainly had his moments.
27:45
Don't get me wrong, he was really good in the month of
27:47
January, slow into February. Wonder if there was something
27:50
there. I thought he was really good
27:51
yesterday as well, John. Yeah, I do think so.
27:55
And I mean, I think he, I think he that's what you want to see
27:58
out of him at this point in the year because you want to see him
28:00
get back to the way he was playing December, January.
28:03
That's another guy that I think can really help them out as we
28:06
get into the next couple of weeks.
28:08
And so you really want him to build on what he did yesterday
28:10
and then cut as they. One guy that hasn't seen much
28:14
run, but you do kind of wonder as we come through the stretch
28:17
here, different matchups they're going to see, I mean, Michigan
28:20
on the horizon, how big they are.
28:21
Do they need to find a 4 minutes 1/2 for Trev and your rock?
28:25
Do you think that they're there, or is it just it's too much, too
28:28
soon for the freshman? I don't think it's too much too
28:32
soon, but I don't think you want to.
28:34
I don't think you want to think you're going to get 20 out of 20
28:37
minutes. You know, you want to get 10 out
28:39
of it. You want to get 10 really good
28:40
minutes, 10 to 15 at this point in his career.
28:43
I mean, he's still fresh but still young.
28:45
But you want to start getting him in there because I mean, I
28:47
thought when he played a couple weeks ago against Purdue, I
28:50
thought he was pretty good at time.
28:52
So I think you do you are going to need that against some of
28:55
these teams. You are going to need that when
28:57
you get into March. And so, so I do think that that
29:00
you kind of want to see out of him, you know, some some, again,
29:04
some consistency in his play and by doing that, you got to give
29:07
him playing time. Two and two out of their final
29:10
four, say Michigan and Nebraska don't go their way but beat Ohio
29:14
State, Penn State, which is certainly not without the realm
29:17
of possibility. I mean, two and two, that would
29:20
be an 11 and 9 campaign. I'm guessing.
29:22
You know, if we'd have pulled Hawkeye fans prior to the year,
29:26
they would just sign for that, right?
29:27
11 and 9 campaign. Yeah.
29:30
I mean, that's, you know, it's about 500 in one of the best.
29:34
Yeah, yeah. You know, and and and you could
29:36
make the argument that this is the best conference country.
29:40
So I in my mind, you know, at the beginning of the year, I
29:43
said, I thought this could be when you looked at the big 10 in
29:47
my mind, if they were kind of an 11910 ten deep.
29:50
So we can get to 11 and 9. You know, it's a winning record
29:54
in this league that but probably all this stuff gets you into the
29:57
NCAA tournament. And you take that in the first
30:00
year of a new team, which is I mean, and it is a new team, you
30:04
know, it is a new coach, new players other than one.
30:07
It's, you know, to do that this year, I think is, is, I know, I
30:11
know there'll be some Iowa fans that won't accept that.
30:13
But in my mind, it's it's been a pretty good year.
30:16
John, I know years ago you went through the mock selection
30:19
committee process. He got to learn a little bit
30:21
about it and write it for the AP Saw a bunch of media members
30:24
were able to do that over the weekend.
30:26
My biggest take away though is something that started to morph
30:29
in a little bit a season ago. They were talking about WAB wins
30:33
above bubble, hearing all the media guys, then hearing the
30:36
chairman on Saturday, heard an extra interview with him over
30:40
the weekend. And it sounds like this metric
30:42
we talk about net a ton and that's important.
30:44
That's more of a sorting tool, actual selection and where teams
30:47
go go through the process in the bracket that wins above bubble
30:51
seems like maybe the most important metric now.
30:55
And I and, and you know what you, when, when you say that you
30:58
know about the net being a sorting tool, that's been kind
31:00
of the, you know, the thing that people sometimes don't realize
31:05
about when, you know, when there's no different with the
31:08
RPI too. Well, you got a 21 NET or 21 RPI
31:11
back in the day. That doesn't necessarily mean
31:14
you're going to get in. They look at, you know, that's
31:16
only how, how you're considered these other things.
31:19
So in my mind, this new metric is something that you really
31:23
have to keep an eye on when you look at those team sheets every
31:27
day. And it's, you know, I know
31:30
everybody makes a big deal out of quad one wins, but it's like
31:32
they're a quad one wins and then they're a quad one win.
31:35
You know, it's like winning at Washington was a quad one win
31:38
but wasn't that big a deal, you know?
31:41
I love that Steinbach though, he's a good player.
31:45
So, so I mean, so I mean, you know, it's not going to catch a
31:48
committee by, you know, necessarily.
31:50
So that was one of the things that I think really came out of
31:52
that mock election thing. And I retweeted, I think it was
31:55
Matt Norlander story to kind of explain to everybody, this is
31:59
what they look at. And I remember when I did that
32:01
back in 2010, I always tried to explain to you about this is
32:04
what they look at, you know, and this is how it's done and all
32:08
that. And different committees have
32:09
different formulas, but this metric is something that I think
32:13
is going to get a lot of consideration when that
32:15
committee meets in March. Absolutely.
32:17
John Bowencamp, Associated Press.
32:19
I would call it hoops.com. John, thanks as always.
32:23
We appreciate it. We as we get closer to baseball,
32:25
we will start talking a little National League with you.
32:29
You bet, You bet. Let's let's get it going.
32:32
Good stuff, John. Let's.
32:33
Get talked over right now. You got it.
32:35
Thanks, Paul. See you later.
32:36
John Bowencamp. Yep.
32:37
Yeah, did to talk to John, Associated Press.
32:40
I would call it shoops.com. How many Big 10 teams can can
32:44
win the championship? Is it one or two 1 1/2 over
32:47
under? Under probably right 'cause it's
32:50
zero, 'cause it's the Big 10 they don't.
32:52
Yeah, Michigan's got a chance. They do.
32:54
Michigan's got a big chance. Illinois's great offensively.
32:59
Purdue's got the story of March. Used to be veteran guards.
33:04
They got veteran guards. No, they do, and they got dudes
33:06
inside Kauffman. What's Yeah, he's out.
33:09
He's. But what is it about this team?
33:13
Is it just like Sam Darnold? You know, Joey's does it.
33:18
I'm not going to believe that they can do it because Purdue's
33:20
got dudes. It's I think the defensive end
33:23
of the floor, they're good, they're not elite and I think
33:25
that's going to be the knock against them.
33:28
Braden Smith's a tremendous point.
33:29
He's a hell of a player. A winning national championship
33:33
point guard. He makes all the plays, but if
33:37
there's a game where he needs to get 20, can he get 20?
33:41
I, I know he's done it in the past, but against high level
33:44
competition, a spot like that, I, they're just, they always
33:46
leave you wanting a little bit. More.
33:48
They looked really good in Iowa City, a couple of.
33:50
Saturdays they did. They really did.
33:51
They look great. I felt bad for the Hawks that
33:53
day. They finally sold out the
33:54
building. It was it was Valentine's Day,
33:57
right? Yeah, it was Valentine's Day.
33:59
Tuesday cured a lot of those ills.
34:01
Though up against Nebraska, sure.
34:02
Yeah. That was.
34:03
That was, that was. Great though, it wasn't a packed
34:05
building, it was a charged up crowd.
34:07
Well, it's Nebraska. Right.
34:08
It's Nebraska. It's a rivalry.
34:09
Absolutely. I love that Sparty.
34:12
No, I don't think so. I.
34:15
Don't think so either, Trent. Alright.
34:16
Student the the fierce thing, I mean.
34:17
Then another thing popped up over the weekend.
34:19
Where is is? Oh, I missed this one.
34:21
Oh yeah, his leg was up close to the crotch of another.
34:24
Guy, when did they go and just set him down?
34:26
I don't know if he can. You want to see him pull a Mick
34:28
Cronin and take him off the floor?
34:30
What was that? That's awesome.
34:32
That was he was dead wrong. Big 12 How many Big 12 teams
34:36
can? Win can win a national champion.
34:38
Over under is I'll set it again. It's I don't know because I
34:41
think I'll get killed. I think there's more than one
34:43
and. 1/2 I think it is too. I think Houston can.
34:46
I think Arizona. Can and I thought Texas Tech
34:48
before the game could too. That's huge too.
34:50
Kansas can't no absolutely cross off.
34:52
Right, I was state. I would rather take if you gave
34:56
me. Here's a free $100 future right
34:58
now. OK, you can have Kansas or
34:59
whatever their price is for BYU at a bigger price.
35:02
I take BYU just cuz we saw a DE monster.
35:04
He's going to play every night. And he's going to.
35:06
Go and he's going to want to play every night.
35:08
And on top of it, can Darren Peterson have the Carmelo
35:13
tournament? You can have to.
35:15
I don't think Darren Peterson can.
35:17
I don't think he has that in him.
35:20
I think the monster does. Yeah, absolutely.
35:22
He has that. And that's why I would take it.
35:24
Again, a better price that goes along with it.
35:26
But I would rather have BYU now, neither of those teams.
35:29
I don't think so. Arizona.
35:30
Yes. Houston.
35:31
Yes. Iowa State There's something
35:34
missing. Well, the free throw shooting is
35:36
a It was. Although they were really good
35:38
on Saturday. Are they 15 and 19 I think?
35:40
Yeah, they missed. Yeah, it was.
35:41
It was much better than it's been.
35:43
But Jefferson's A1 for two, missing the front end of a one
35:46
and one. He does that every game.
35:47
There are three 140th in the country right now in free throw
35:50
shooting. Defensively, love them.
35:53
Of course. Munchilovich and he's got to
35:55
shoot more than five times, right?
35:56
And. There's going to be teams that
35:58
they're, they're just. Pulling to answer and just try
36:00
and shut him down and it worked. They can beat you different
36:03
ways, though that's not always the case.
36:05
Here are the Otzelberger. Well, there was kind of one path
36:09
that they could get to, obviously clamped down
36:12
defensively. That's a given with this team
36:14
and with the way that they're built.
36:15
But secondly, they have different ways that they can
36:18
beat you all offensively. Texas Tech.
36:20
No topping. I like Christian Anderson.
36:23
I do too. I don't like him at that.
36:26
No, not without, Not without 1A topping.
36:29
The Big East is 1. 1. The ACC is 1.
36:35
It's Duke. The SEC is 1.
36:38
Florida. Yeah, Florida's coming on.
36:40
Let me let me look at the SEC real quick and see if I miss an.
36:44
AI, like a lot of SEC teams to get to a Final Four that I think
36:47
with the right path, with the right matchups, there's a ton of
36:50
those. Alabama or Arkansas?
36:51
Both of them can get to a final four.
36:53
That's it, right? Yeah.
36:54
Can't win a national championship.
36:56
Dude. The defensively, both those
36:58
teams not good enough to win 6th and 2nd.
37:00
I've been really 5 consecutive for them.
37:03
High level games, I don't see that happening for them.
37:05
Tennessee, it's Rick Barnes and March.
37:07
Yeah, not gonna happen. You.
37:10
Know Vandy? No.
37:12
Over the weekend, watching them against Tennessee and I was, I
37:15
was rooting against them. Where are you?
37:16
Because I put a Vandy Final Four ticket in My Portfolio.
37:19
It went from 14 to 1 before the weekend and got a 18 to one
37:23
Saturday night. Nice, yes, nice, Gonzaga.
37:28
I don't know, but I haven't seen them much since that loss to
37:33
Portland where I watched that on the last 10 minutes of that
37:35
crazy game. A late night when they took the
37:37
owl. I don't think so, and and
37:39
another reason I don't think so with the Zag.
37:41
So that and Michigan are their only losses.
37:45
Yes, yeah, they're 27 to 2, but they're still waiting for
37:49
Braden. Braden Huff I think was still
37:50
in, like he had something. I haven't seen him a long time.
37:53
And without huff, no. And it doesn't sound the last
37:58
report I saw, and I think maybe it was early last week, didn't
38:01
sound very promising. For like the rest of the year,
38:03
yeah. Like that kind of thing.
38:04
Yeah. So I mean, that's another cross
38:06
off with them winning the six in a row.
38:09
That's the difference. A lot of teams can make a Final
38:11
Four. St.
38:11
Louis can make a Final Four. Virginia can make a Final Four.
38:14
St. John's can make a Final four.
38:15
Winning six in a row, though, I think that number is tightening
38:18
up. Michigan, Arizona, Duke,
38:21
Houston, Florida, UConn. Yep, that might be the list.
38:27
I don't think we're missing anybody.
38:29
I. Think that's it?
38:32
Miller and Condon 1:45 We'll take our final break.
38:34
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38:39
That's a very small, small slave.
38:41
Like maybe a dozen games. Oh yeah.
38:43
But I I found some things to play.
38:45
Yes, I've imagined that, right. I found some games, some a
38:48
little bit deeper off the board he got to dig into.
38:50
I got a women's game coming up tonight.
38:52
I like that. I think I got an angle on.
38:54
So we found some pics. I think I got five of them.
38:57
Right, we'll see if we can start the week off on a winning note.
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39:25
Again, I'm out of the state so I don't know really what's going
39:27
on. Was there really an Iowa
39:29
politician? Honest to God, that was?
39:35
Were the Bears to Iowa really a thing?
39:38
No, it was grandstanding. Yes, we stay out of.
39:41
But did everybody see through this?
39:43
No. Honest to God, we did.
39:45
I I tried to wrong with people I know.
39:49
It doesn't take a whole lot of mental gymnastics to understand
39:52
that this is only that. It is political grand city.
39:55
Name a city that our towns. Well, it's a Quad Cities is what
39:58
people anticipated. Yeah, because, well, it's only
40:01
two hours away from the. Farthest.
40:03
Reaches of the western suburbs to get over to the north?
40:07
Yes, of course. Connecting the dots.
40:11
The Hammond thing, I understand that there's a border there.
40:15
Hammond, IN is part of Chicagoland.
40:17
Kind is right. It's closer than Santa Clara is
40:20
to San Francisco. Which is 45 minutes, 60 minutes
40:23
and this is what, 25? The Giants, The Jets, they play
40:26
in New Jersey. Yeah, We have the Commanders
40:29
that do not play in Washington, DC, though.
40:31
They are going back, right? This happens all over the place.
40:34
It is closer to Hammond, IN, than it is from Foxborough to
40:38
Boston. Come on, you.
40:40
Know. Just because it says Indiana
40:42
behind it and he asked the jokes about the Gary Bears, that's
40:45
kind of funny. You got a Gary bear, Okay,
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that's funny, but it's not that big of a deal.
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It really isn't. In fact, it's closer to Hammond,
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IN from downtown and Soldier Field than it is Arlington
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Heights. Is it really?
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Now the population base sure skew that way.
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That does make sense. But it's a whole lot.
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But it did. It did get some run in Iowa that
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this it did. So newspapers, TV stations?
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Did they fall? Front Office Sports wrote
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multiple articles about it. All those sports media places
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were talking about it on and on and on.
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Folks, if you still are holding out hope, don't.
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It's not going to happen. Nor was it ever going to happen.
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I, I don't know if you saw I retweeted, somebody had a
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picture of downtown Mason City with a Bear Stadium in it.
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That would really crack me up. Yeah, that's funny.
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That's good. All right, here.
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Plays of the day, you said. Got five of them.
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Let's get to him. Absolutely.
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Let's jump into it, mentioned women's college basketball.
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One play in that one, 6:00 tonight, a Big 12 affair.
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Baylor hosting K State, saw K State, Iowa State.
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I was at a couple of weekends ago and listened to a lot of the
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game as the Godfather. John Walters was on the women's
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call for that. One.
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How about that? Impressed though by K State not
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having a great here. Going to grab the points.
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Going to grab the 9 1/2 against a Baylor team that is somewhat
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limited offensively. Big number with the Wildcats.
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Going to play both big Monday games tonight.
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Get a lay it in both of them. Going to take Louisville minus
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the 2 1/2 against the Caleb Wilson list North Carolina Tar
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Heels. He's done for the years there.
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Hope. To get him, there was hope.
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It's a wrist writer at hand. There's hope.
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There was hope. I don't know.
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I haven't seen an update since that injury and I'm going to go
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against the trend. Give me Houston -1 1/2 and then
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I'll come in tomorrow. What an idiot I am.
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Never bet against Kansas on Big Monday at home.
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I will do it. And then two other plays.
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How about this Utah Rio Grande Valley?
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We got to know this football program because of Tony Diaz
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will be getting his mail in Iowa City and hopefully catching some
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passes for the Hawkeyes. We're going to jump aboard with
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them. And the same with another Texas
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school, Texas A&M, Corpus Christi, my favorite mascots out
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there, the Islanders with the light blue and the green.
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I'll lay the 1 1/2 on the road at Southeast Louisiana All.
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Right best of luck with those 2D sports sponsor those you can
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download the app here in the state of Iowa for those are
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listening in Illinois or Mizzou. Likewise, the circus sports
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Missouri, circus sports Illinois circus sports Iowa.
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Good stuff. All right, tomorrow we will be
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joined by our buddy Adam Emma Neckerboy Drake seems like it's
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one of those years right it. Has been a huge, huge
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disappointment and it feels like coach Henderson, he's got a lot
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of work that needs to be done in the portal.
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That's for sure. At least he's got the the
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benefit of the portal. Yes, yeah.
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But you and I carrying the flag, at least in the states for.
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For the Valley and they had a bad loss over the weekend.
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They lost at home to Southern Illinois after it all felt like
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it was going well. They had won five out of six and
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you lose at home to the Lukies. That will do it for us.
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Good to be back, TC. Good to have you back.
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We will be back tomorrow at noon.
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Coming up next is off the bench with Lucas Strange, Sean Roberts
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First quarter goes underway. It gets underway tomorrow at
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6:00 AM. Talk to you tomorrow, noon to 2
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