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Credlin | 3 February · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Krandland Live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, welcome to the program. Here's what's coming up
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Speaker 2: on the show this evening. Federal Parliament back this week,
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Speaker 2: so to our political guru Dennis Shanahan. He joins me
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Speaker 2: as speculation mounts the election will be called this month.
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Speaker 2: Get his assessment on that and where things stand politically
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Speaker 2: for the two leaders. Dragged, kicking and screaming. Federal Labor
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Speaker 2: have announced to review into gender medicine, but this seems
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Speaker 2: more like an attempt to kick the can down the
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Speaker 2: road and block meaningful change. Doctor Jillian Spencer, the brave
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Speaker 2: expert psychiatrist who blew the whistle on all of this,
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Speaker 2: joins me tonight for her assessment. Anger mounts after a
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Speaker 2: new South Wales Labour Minister Joe Halen charged taxpayers to
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Speaker 2: be chauffeured around for a boozy thirteen hour lunch. It
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Speaker 2: gets worse new revelation late this afternoon, but she's been
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Speaker 2: using her car for a whole lot more. Plus massive
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Speaker 2: new regulations for all new would be wind farms in Queensland,
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Speaker 2: community consultations now mandatory. They've also scrapped the fantasy that's
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Speaker 2: green hydrogen in Queensland. We're also certainly coming off Chris
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Speaker 2: Bowen's wagon. It would seem and more and more concerned
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Speaker 2: today that the Prime Minister is asleep at the wheel
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Speaker 2: on national security, not getting the briefings that every PM
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Speaker 2: should not willing to step up, and as a result,
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Speaker 2: Australians are hurting.
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Speaker 1: People are living with fear at the moment and they
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Speaker 1: need to know that.
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Speaker 3: The boundaries and that the red lines are going to
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Speaker 3: be implemented and enforced.
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Speaker 2: We'll stay with these issues because Parliament is back this week,
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Speaker 2: starts tomorrow for what could be its final pre election
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Speaker 2: sitting alone. I think they're going to wait until the
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Speaker 2: Reserve Bank has its meeting later this month. And the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister, well, he's now resorting to cheap stunts, personal
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Speaker 2: attacks and a few smoke and mirror tricks to try
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Speaker 2: and win voters that are abandoning his party as quickly
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Speaker 2: as his MP's are abandoning ship. Last week, Stephen Jones
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Speaker 2: became the fourth former Labour minister to resign just weeks
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Speaker 2: out from a likely election, and in his place, the
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Speaker 2: local rank and file, although be forced to cop another
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Speaker 2: captain's call from Anthony Albanezi as he tries to shoehorn
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Speaker 2: in a former three time Green's candidate, Carol Berry, into
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Speaker 2: one of Labour's safest seats. Now others have picked up
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Speaker 2: her name, but few have picked up her recent history.
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Speaker 2: Endorsed as a Greens candidate in the federal seat of Cunningham,
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Speaker 2: again endorsed as a Greens on the ticket for the
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Speaker 2: new South Wales upper House, and again the Greens endorsed
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Speaker 2: candidate for the Senate. She's also been a chief of
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Speaker 2: staff to a Green's MP. Now is this just another
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Speaker 2: part of the PM's secret deal with the Greens to
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Speaker 2: win their support in the event of a hung Parliament?
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Speaker 2: Who can tell I can tell you is that local
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Speaker 2: labor types are already awake to what's happening here in
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Speaker 2: the seat of Whitlam, and they are angry at the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister for once again trying to run right over
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Speaker 2: the top of the rank and file. Then there's the
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Speaker 2: stunt on Friday, the announcement of a federal review and
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Speaker 2: the treatment of gender medicine for children confused children for
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Speaker 2: no other reason than to try and intimidate the new
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Speaker 2: Queensland government from dropping their own review announced just days earlier,
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Speaker 2: as well as their ban on puberty blocking drugs for children. Now,
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Speaker 2: let's step through what's happened here, because the chronology is important.
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Speaker 2: After whistleblowers expose shocking examples of children at risk and
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Speaker 2: parents being kept in the dark about gender affirming practices,
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Speaker 2: the new Queensland government, the Christofoley government, announced an immediate
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Speaker 2: stay on the use of puberty blockers while they sought
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Speaker 2: advice from medical experts and they wanted answers as to
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Speaker 2: how these drugs were administered in the case of care
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Speaker 2: ends the Can's Hospital to children as young as twelve
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Speaker 2: without parental consent and not before time after rave doctors
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Speaker 2: and psychiatrists like Jillian Spencer I'll talk to her in
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Speaker 2: a moment, have been urging caution, pointing to expert reviews
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Speaker 2: from overseas, like the UK's Cast Review that's now banned
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Speaker 2: all of these radical practices on children. Now, despite demands
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Speaker 2: here for an expert inquiry at a national level, the
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Speaker 2: Albenezer go and has consistently blocked one until, of course
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Speaker 2: Queensland said we'll go it alone and they set up
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Speaker 2: their own. The move by Queensland's got all the gender
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Speaker 2: affirming activists fighter worried about what we might actually learn
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Speaker 2: about these practices. So when a shock move on Friday afternoon,
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Speaker 2: Federal Health Minister Mark Butler Lee rushed out a press
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Speaker 2: release announcing a review of gender treatment guidelines by the
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Speaker 2: National Health and Medical Research Council. Most immediately come the
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Speaker 2: demands then for the Queen's Land Review to be dropped,
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Speaker 2: that I want it, that I want us to find
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Speaker 2: out anything here. They don't want us to know what's
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Speaker 2: going on, and there were calls to for children to
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Speaker 2: go back onto these hormone treatments, so effectively burying this
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Speaker 2: controversial issue, getting it off the election and gender worse still,
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Speaker 2: the NHMRC they won't even issue an internem report on
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Speaker 2: this issue until next year, and that's before we even
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Speaker 2: consider the sort of people that will be on the
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Speaker 2: review panel, truly expert and independent. I doubt it more
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Speaker 2: likely part of the trans lobby that's taken us down
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Speaker 2: this path in the first place. Don't be fooled by
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Speaker 2: the Albanezer government's moves here. This is about shutting down
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Speaker 2: justifiable community concern about stopping the Queensland Review, revealing just
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Speaker 2: how dangerous these treatments really are and making sure it
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Speaker 2: doesn't make come an issue in the upcoming federal campaign.
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Speaker 2: Two bad people like me and others can see through
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Speaker 2: all of this, We can see it, calling it out.
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Speaker 2: I'll talk to Jillian Spencer in a moment. But this
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Speaker 2: is a prime minister. It's transparent and obvious. This is
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Speaker 2: a prime minister that's scared of his own shadow. All right,
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Speaker 2: let's go to cam now for the headlines Skyniese political
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Speaker 2: reporter Trudy McIntosh.
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Speaker 4: On the eve of the next election, Australia's top political
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Speaker 4: donors have been revealed by the Electoral Commission. With the
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty three to twenty four financial year, Clean energy
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Speaker 4: investors Rob Caldulis and Marcus Kitsaris donated million dollars apiece
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Speaker 4: to Climate two hundred. Labour's biggest donor was billionaire and
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Speaker 4: USI chair Anthony Pratt, who gifted a million. The two
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Speaker 4: major parties and their state branches raked in more than
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Speaker 4: sixty six million dollars apiece, while tealbacker Climate two hundred
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Speaker 4: disclosed just shy of six million. In the sim At
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Speaker 4: Homes of Court led funding group donated four hundred and
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Speaker 4: thirty two thousand dollars to tier MPs. The highest went
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Speaker 4: to Zoe Daniels in Goldstein, second Monique Ryan, and third
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Speaker 4: a leg Respender at seventy nine thousand. Among the teals,
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Speaker 4: Keuyong MP Monique Ryan raised the biggest pot of donations
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Speaker 4: a just Shive seven hundred thousand dollars. A leg Respender
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Speaker 4: came in second, disclosing just over five hundred and sixty
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Speaker 4: thousand dollars.
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Speaker 3: The vast majority of the donations we get are from
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Speaker 3: small donations from people within our community, so that's where
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Speaker 3: we have been focusing.
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Speaker 2: And network of.
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Speaker 4: Neo Nazis spreading anti Semitic hate online has been hit
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Speaker 4: with a raft of terror financing sanctions.
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Speaker 2: There's certainly evidenced the terogram is used by people in
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Speaker 2: Australia extremists, white extreme white supremacists and extremists and they
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Speaker 2: have to be confronted. Trudy Macintosh, Sky News Canberra right
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Speaker 2: now to Australia's ongoing epidemic of anti Semitism and the
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Speaker 2: national security implications following revelations of last week foiled mass
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Speaker 2: casualty event. We know the investigation is still ongoing. The
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Speaker 2: down the Telegraph broke the story, of course, and you
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Speaker 2: said the world's premier, Chris Mins, he's across what's going on.
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Speaker 2: The same couldn't though be said for the Prime Minister.
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Speaker 2: For more on this, I'm joining now by the Shadow
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Speaker 2: Minister for Home Affairs, James Patterson, Senator. I know you've
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Speaker 2: got to step into a shadow Cabinet meeting in a moment,
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Speaker 2: so I am grateful for your time. We've talked a
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Speaker 2: lot about the scourge of anti Semitism. I want to
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Speaker 2: put that to one side tonight. I want to focus
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Speaker 2: on the national security apparatus. It's supposed to be keeping
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Speaker 2: a safe James, and the fact the Prime Minister's either
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Speaker 2: not being well served by it or it doesn't want
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Speaker 2: to be briefed by it. He doesn't want to know
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Speaker 2: what's happening on his watch. You know, he's asleep at
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Speaker 2: the wheel, which is it.
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Speaker 1: That's exactly right, That's exactly right, Peter.
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Speaker 5: And the Prime Minister only has himself to blame here
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Speaker 5: because he actually started demolishing the national security policy architecture
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Speaker 5: that was put in place by the previous government which
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Speaker 5: kept Australian safe. He demolished the Home Affairs portfolio by
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Speaker 5: removing key operational security agencies like the Federal Police and OSTRAK,
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Speaker 5: the Financial Crimes Regulator, the Criminal Intelligence Commission, and then
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Speaker 5: ultimately also Asio out of the Home Affairs portfolio into
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Speaker 5: the Attorney General's portfolio, which has caused massive confusion and
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Speaker 5: disorganization and disarray. And it's no wonder that it's not
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Speaker 5: in top shape and not working similarly together. But it
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Speaker 5: really is extraordinary if it is true that no one
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Speaker 5: told the Prime Minister or the Attorney General or the
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Speaker 5: Home Affairs Minister about a foiled mass casualty terrorist attack,
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Speaker 5: that shows that something is fundamentally wrong on this government's watch.
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Speaker 2: That's if you believe in James, I find that is
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Speaker 2: a threshold that is too great to get across. That
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Speaker 2: You've got tens of thousands of intelligence officials and departmental
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Speaker 2: senior bureaucrats in these portfolios in Canberra and not one
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Speaker 2: of them thought either a call to the Prime Minister's
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Speaker 2: office or a briefing note up through their ministers and
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Speaker 2: across was it worth it about an issue of this scale.
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Speaker 2: I just you know, I get when he says if
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Speaker 2: he's after in a press conference, the PM says, Look,
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Speaker 2: I'm not going to discuss the intricacies of security briefings.
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Speaker 2: I get that right, But you show me where John
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Speaker 2: Howard or Tony Abbott or Scott Morrison, even a Kim
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Speaker 2: Beasley wouldn't have been forthcoming to say I've got a briefing,
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Speaker 2: rest assured Australians, we've got this in hand.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's exactly right, Peter.
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Speaker 5: And I've spoken to many people who worked in senior
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Speaker 5: national security roles in the bureaucracy and in government over
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Speaker 5: many years, and all of them said it would be
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Speaker 5: inexplicable that the Prime Minister would not be briefed. That
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Speaker 5: probably what would have happened in a routine way is
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Speaker 5: that the Federal Police RASIO would have breached briefed their
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Speaker 5: relevant minister first, and that relevant minister would have said, well,
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Speaker 5: we better tell the Prime Minister we're probably going to
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Speaker 5: need to convene a National Security Committee of Cabinet meeting.
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Speaker 5: And in fact those committee meetings should have been happening
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Speaker 5: anyway on a rolling basis, given how serious this crisis is.
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Speaker 5: It shouldn't take bombing of a synagogue or a childcare
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Speaker 5: center or a roadside of Van Baum to require an
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Speaker 5: NSC meeting, and in those NSC meetings, the Prime Minister
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Speaker 5: should have been grilling the head of our intelligence and
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Speaker 5: security agencies, in our law enforcement agencies, saying, where are
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Speaker 5: things up to, what's the full picture? Tell me what's happening.
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Speaker 5: And if those meetings weren't happening, and if he wasn't
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Speaker 5: asking those questions, then that reflects on his disinterest in
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Speaker 5: national security and no wonder things they've gotten as bad
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Speaker 5: as they have.
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Speaker 6: Did it all.
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Speaker 2: Happen because it was, you know, the Christmas New Year period.
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Speaker 2: We know that he said, when I think it was
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Speaker 2: your leader asking for a national Cabinet meeting, he said, well,
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Speaker 2: we're not going to do that. Everyone's on leave. I'm
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Speaker 2: not bringing people back. We know Penny Wong was overseas.
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Speaker 2: She was at the inauguration. We know that Mark Drapers
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Speaker 2: the ag these are members of NSC. For people at home,
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Speaker 2: we know that he was away in Israel. Is it
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Speaker 2: the fact that if he hasn't got the ministers around
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Speaker 2: him geeing him up to do his job, he's often
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Speaker 2: a frolic.
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Speaker 1: There's a couple of problems with that excuse.
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Speaker 5: Peter One is obviously the Prime Minister's job is a
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Speaker 5: full time job and it shouldn't go into hibernation over
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Speaker 5: the summer holidays. The second is we call for a
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Speaker 5: national cabinet for fourteen months, so presumably people weren't on
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Speaker 5: leave for fourteen months. And the third is, even if
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Speaker 5: some people were taking some leave over Christmas in the
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Speaker 5: new year, this caravan was discovered on the nineteenth of January.
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Speaker 5: The key people should have been well and truly back
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Speaker 5: at work with their feet under the desk by then
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Speaker 5: and on top of this issue, and if they weren't,
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Speaker 5: it really boggles the mind. I mean, NC should have
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Speaker 5: met and the Prime Minister should have made policy decisions
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Speaker 5: on the basis of this incident, to surge resources to
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Speaker 5: our security and intelligence agencies, to establish a task force
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Speaker 5: to get to the bottom of this, to reassure the
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Speaker 5: Jurish community and any others who could be targeted and
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Speaker 5: affected by these attacks that no stone was being left
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Speaker 5: unturned from the highest office of the land to get
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Speaker 5: to the bottom of this. None of that happened, and
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Speaker 5: all of that reflects on him.
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Speaker 2: Just before we go, James, I know you have to
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Speaker 2: leave online Nego Nazi network. They've been hit with sanctions,
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Speaker 2: as they should, but how can they go after the
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Speaker 2: neo Nazis and we still have yet to deport a
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Speaker 2: single hate preacher.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's exactly right, Peter.
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Speaker 5: We strongly support the sanctions that the government has put
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Speaker 5: in place on these neo Nazi groups, but truthfully, that's
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Speaker 5: just business as usual of government that should just happen
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Speaker 5: as a matter of course.
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Speaker 1: It's nothing to be trumpeting or.
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Speaker 5: Be particularly proud of, particularly when the government has failed
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Speaker 5: to tackle so many other extremists in our community, whether
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Speaker 5: it's Histeria or people here on visas inciting violence against
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Speaker 5: their fellow Australians. In fact not Australians. In the case
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Speaker 5: of those visa holders, no consequence of her followed for
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Speaker 5: those people. They haven't been charged, they haven't been arrested,
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Speaker 5: they haven't been deported, and no wonder they've become emboldened.
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Speaker 5: Things have got so out of control on this Prime
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Speaker 5: Minister's watch.
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Speaker 7: All right, I.
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Speaker 2: Wanted to get you into travel with James Patterson. Thank
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Speaker 2: you as always, let's welcome back now The Australian's National
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Speaker 2: Edit to Dennis Shanahan, who, what we all expect will
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Speaker 2: be a pretty hecticul election. Yeah, great to see you, Dennis.
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Speaker 2: You're looking very rested. Great to have you back on
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Speaker 2: the program. MP's are flying into Cambus tonight, said at
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Speaker 2: A Patterson, and the shadow cabinet clearly are there. Ahead
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Speaker 2: of the resumption of parliament tomorrow. I want to start
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Speaker 2: stepping back a little bit broadly whole of party terms.
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Speaker 2: We'll get to the individual leaders in a moment, but
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Speaker 2: whole of party terms. How's Labor tracking for you to
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Speaker 2: get itself a second term? How do you see things?
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Speaker 8: Well, I think Labor is in trouble in trying to
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Speaker 8: get to a second term. It has the advantage that
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Speaker 8: the opposition needs to win a great number of seats
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Speaker 8: to actually overturn their first term. So Labor has the
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Speaker 8: advantage that the opposition is at a disadvantage. And I
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Speaker 8: make it put it that way because the Labor Party
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Speaker 8: only has a majority of two seats and they must
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Speaker 8: hold and win seats to actually get to a second term.
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Speaker 8: Having said that, what it is most likely at this
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Speaker 8: stage given the polling, given the failure of the January reset,
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Speaker 8: which Antony Alberanese started with a frenetic movement, spending a
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Speaker 8: billion dollars virtually a day to try and build momentum
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Speaker 8: going into this parliamentary sitting. It hasn't worked. The polls
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Speaker 8: are not improving for Labor and so I think what
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Speaker 8: we're looking at at this stage is the most likely
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Speaker 8: outcome of a Labor minority government with a fairly left
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Speaker 8: Senate which wouldn't be controlled by Labor but would be
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Speaker 8: by Labor, the Greens and maybe a couple of independence.
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Speaker 8: Now that for Antony Alberesi would mean that he would
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Speaker 8: have lost the election and while it's unlikely he would
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Speaker 8: be removed as Prime Minister in the short in the
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Speaker 8: longer term it would be the end of Alberanase's leadership.
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Speaker 8: Now on the other side, Peter Dutton has momentum. There
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Speaker 8: is no doubt that going into this year, into this
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Speaker 8: parliamentary sittings, Peter Dutton is calling the agenda, particularly on security,
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Speaker 8: terror and anti Semitism. He has turned this into a
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Speaker 8: huge distraction for the government. Anthony Albanese has been unable
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Speaker 8: to answer key security questions about the caravan bomb in
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Speaker 8: Durall in Western Sydney, and he has tried to deflect
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Speaker 8: the anti Semitism issue as much as he can this
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Speaker 8: week in the Parliament. He didn't mention it in his
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Speaker 8: address to his labor colleagues, first address to the labor
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Speaker 8: caucus this year, but in Parliament tomorrow. Going to see
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Speaker 8: the Prime Minister under pressure on anti Semitism and security
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Speaker 8: while trying to attack Peter Dutton and promoting a more
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Speaker 8: optimistic was his word outlook for the economy. I think
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Speaker 8: that all of this is going to be a very
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Speaker 8: tough time for the government at this stage. Though unless
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Speaker 8: there is an even bigger shift in momentum, and it
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Speaker 8: would have to be a big one, the government is
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Speaker 8: most likely to be returned as a minority labor government.
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Speaker 2: What's made him such a drag on labours? For Dennis.
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Speaker 8: Well, I think that essentially it has been a lack
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Speaker 8: of leadership. We saw from the beginning that on the
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Speaker 8: election night, the very election night, Anthony Alberaneese's surprise everyone
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Speaker 8: including his colleagues, in announcing a voice referendum for an
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Speaker 8: indigenous voice to Parliament. Now that has completely consumed Antonia
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Speaker 8: Albanez's leadership and time for the first eighteen months of
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Speaker 8: this government, and of course it turned into a resounding defeat.
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Speaker 8: It started out at about sixty four thirty four and
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Speaker 8: ended up sixty to twenty.
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Speaker 1: Now, it was a.
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Speaker 8: Big defeat that took away a great deal of Antonia
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Speaker 8: Albanez's momentum and credibility. Then, on the same week that
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Speaker 8: there was the referendum defeat, there was a hamas Tera
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Speaker 8: attack in Israel. And since then, in this second half
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Speaker 8: of the government's term, we have seen them being unable
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Speaker 8: to really grasp the issue, to take leadership, to actually
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Speaker 8: reassure people that yes, we are doing something about it. Now,
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Speaker 8: Anthony Albinez is not an Semitic person. He is not
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Speaker 8: responsible for anti semitism, but he is responsible for losing
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Speaker 8: the leadership on the issue and allowing Peter Dutton to
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Speaker 8: dictate the political terms. So I think what we have
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Speaker 8: seen is two halves of this government's first term being distracted,
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Speaker 8: the first part by the voice, in the second part
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Speaker 8: by anti Semitism, security terror, domestic terror, and of course
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Speaker 8: the overriding issue has been the cost of living. While
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Speaker 8: all of that was going on, the people were mostly
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Speaker 8: concerned with.
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Speaker 1: Cost of living.
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Speaker 8: I think there has been a complete deflection, a distraction
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Speaker 8: of this government, and it has lacked leadership and lacked
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Speaker 8: the ability to actually use its leadership and its authority
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Speaker 8: as a government. It has not behaved like a really
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Speaker 8: leading in incumbent government. It has been far too reactive
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Speaker 8: and allowed Peter Dutton to call the issues on security,
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Speaker 8: domestic terrorism, visas immigration. Peter Dutton has been able to
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Speaker 8: dictate the agenda and that has been part of Labour's
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Speaker 8: own weakness.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that very much. The times asseriting him.
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Speaker 2: The portfolios that are frontened center in the campaign are
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Speaker 2: suiting him. I will make the point. There's been no
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Speaker 2: poll probably now for about eight months it says the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister can win a majority government, that Labor will
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Speaker 2: get over the line and govern in its own rights.
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Speaker 2: So at best we're talking, as you speculate there about
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Speaker 2: a minority government. There have been some recent polls. You know,
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Speaker 2: if the wind blows the right way, that the coalition
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Speaker 2: itself could form majority government. So any potential majority is
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Speaker 2: falling the coalition's way if the polls are to be believed. Now,
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Speaker 2: a hurly burly campaign with the other bloke's got all
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Speaker 2: the momentum, and you are a renowned poor campaigner, and
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Speaker 2: particularly i might add, you have the perception now that's
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Speaker 2: locked in. I think that you are weak and Australians
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Speaker 2: you know, I don't have a lot of confidence in you.
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Speaker 2: How risky is a long campaign for the Prime Minister
21:35
Speaker 2: and the timing of the campaign to Dennis, because people
21:38
Speaker 2: are speculating today that they could call it this month
21:41
Speaker 2: if they get a rate to cut from the RBA,
21:44
Speaker 2: So a February election being called, possibly for a March
21:47
Speaker 2: election date.
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Speaker 1: Well, look just on the March on the election date.
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Speaker 8: I still believe that it is more likely will have
21:57
Speaker 8: an election in May. I know a lot of speculation
22:00
Speaker 8: is shifting away from March now to April fifteen, which
22:04
Speaker 8: happens to be the Passover holiday. So it would be
22:08
Speaker 8: interesting to see the Labor government, currently under enormous pressure
22:14
Speaker 8: over anti Semitism and domestic security, calling an election on
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Speaker 8: the day of the beginning of the Jewish Passover holiday.
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Speaker 8: So I think that all of this is playing into
22:28
Speaker 8: the government going longer rather than earlier and a rate cut.
22:34
Speaker 8: Look what happened in the US. The Democrats discovered the
22:39
Speaker 8: Biden administration discovered that after a long period of high
22:44
Speaker 8: inflation and high interest rates, which we have certainly experienced
22:49
Speaker 8: here with the longest period of cost rises and domestic
22:53
Speaker 8: costs rises price inflation in Australia. What happened was people
22:59
Speaker 8: becomeing neewared to it. One simple rate cut, a bit
23:03
Speaker 8: of a decline in inflation does not reassure them. They
23:08
Speaker 8: hold back and they still take it out on the
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Speaker 8: government of the day, and that was what was happening
23:14
Speaker 8: to the Biden administration. I don't think, of course, if
23:19
Speaker 8: there is an interest rate cut, it'll be good for
23:21
Speaker 8: the government, but I don't think that will be enough
23:24
Speaker 8: for them to go off and court suddenly call an
23:27
Speaker 8: election on one rate cut. Aer point two five percent
23:31
Speaker 8: cut not worth anything near what the mortgage payments have
23:36
Speaker 8: gone up over the last few months. So I think
23:40
Speaker 8: the Prime Minister and his address to the Caucus today
23:43
Speaker 8: demonstrated that he wants to sell the prospective better economic
23:50
Speaker 8: outlook over a longer period of time, and he also
23:54
Speaker 8: wants to take the time to bury the anti Semitic
23:59
Speaker 8: rise of anti Semitism, the doubts about security and damage
24:04
Speaker 8: Peter Dutton's personal leadership. Anton Alberesi is returning to the
24:10
Speaker 8: same trough he destroyed Scott Morrison's leadership and it worked
24:16
Speaker 8: a treat he's trying to do the same now for
24:20
Speaker 8: Peter Dutton. Labor miscalculated about Dutton's electability and now what
24:27
Speaker 8: they are facing is the possibility that Peter Dutton could
24:32
Speaker 8: actually be elected. This is going to take much longer
24:36
Speaker 8: to actually undermine Peter Dutton's leadership. The momentum is with him.
24:43
Speaker 8: He is doing better in polling terms on particular issues,
24:48
Speaker 8: including the economy, than Anton Alberesi and the Labor government.
24:53
Speaker 8: So I think that people will get too carried away
24:58
Speaker 8: if there is a sudden if there is a cut
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Speaker 8: this month in interest rates, well it's not enough to
25:05
Speaker 8: go on. And it also proves that Anthony Albanezi was
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Speaker 8: right in deciding to go longer, not to go to
25:14
Speaker 8: an election in last September because the economy has improved.
25:18
Speaker 8: The argument then was it couldn't get worse. Well it
25:21
Speaker 8: actually got better.
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Speaker 2: I will add, you know, I think that's got Morrison
25:29
Speaker 2: broke his own leadership. I don't think the Albanesi attacks
25:33
Speaker 2: really did the damage. I think Scott's ranking with people
25:38
Speaker 2: when he went to the election was it an all
25:39
Speaker 2: time low, and I think the government, the Prime minister
25:42
Speaker 2: profited from that. I think Peter Dutt's a particularly different
25:45
Speaker 2: character there. But we'll see Dennis Thanking. Great to have
25:47
Speaker 2: you back. As all waves or the Rake labes underhand
25:50
Speaker 2: tactics to avoid a proper review into gender medicine, and
25:53
Speaker 2: with a so called NHMRC you review a little more
25:57
Speaker 2: than a stalling tactic. That's my view to an expert.
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Speaker 7: Though.
26:00
Speaker 2: After break, the woman who blew the whistle on all
26:03
Speaker 2: of this, Doctor Gillian Spencer class big changes in Queenslane
26:07
Speaker 2: when it comes to wind farms. I'll explain what's happening
26:10
Speaker 2: a little bit later. Welcome back. On Friday afternoon, the
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Speaker 2: Federal Health Minister Mark Butler abruptly announced inquiry into gender
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Speaker 2: affirming healthcare for young Australians, including the use of puberty blockers.
26:27
Speaker 2: The announcement came only a matter of days after the
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Speaker 2: Queensland government paused access to puberty blockers for new patients
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Speaker 2: under the age of eighteen. Now. This was in response
26:37
Speaker 2: to bombshell revelations that the Ken's Sexual Health Service Pologies
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Speaker 2: there sad earlier at the Ken's Hospital had allegedly provided
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Speaker 2: puberty blockers to children as young as twelve without parental authorization.
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Speaker 2: Join him in hour to discuss what we can expect
26:52
Speaker 2: from this inquiry. Senior child and adolescent psychiatrist, Doctor Gillian Spencer.
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Speaker 2: Dr Spencer, thank you for your time. At the top
27:01
Speaker 2: of the show, I've given my take on this. I
27:04
Speaker 2: think it is a stalling tactic, this NHMRC review. I
27:09
Speaker 2: think it's quite possibly an attempt to bury the issue
27:12
Speaker 2: outside of the campaign. I'm concerned about who might be
27:16
Speaker 2: on the review. I'm also concerned that as almost immediately
27:21
Speaker 2: as it was announced on Friday came calls from activists
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Speaker 2: to shelve the Queensland review. As I said, that's my
27:29
Speaker 2: take in it, what's yours?
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Speaker 9: Yeah, Well, the nh and MRC will development develop guidelines
27:38
Speaker 9: for the management of children with gender distress, and hopefully
27:41
Speaker 9: they will follow their own standards for guidelines, which is
27:44
Speaker 9: to have transparency, to manage any conflicts of interest, and.
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Speaker 6: Most importantly, to link any.
27:49
Speaker 9: Recommendations to an assessment of the quality of the evidence
27:53
Speaker 9: underpinning the recommendation.
27:55
Speaker 6: But one of the things we've seen with gender medicine is.
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Speaker 9: A complete failure of institutions to maintain their integrity. I
28:03
Speaker 9: think Mark Butler's announcement is grossly inadequate. We need an
28:08
Speaker 9: ambulance on this issue. And Mark Butler has essentially told
28:12
Speaker 9: us to go wait at the bus stop on a
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Speaker 9: Sunday and it shows that he's not concerned.
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Speaker 6: In fact, quite the opposite.
28:19
Speaker 9: And then he had his assistant minister announced that transgender
28:23
Speaker 9: activists from OSPATH and from an organization called Transcend are
28:28
Speaker 9: going to be the ones essentially driving this very slow bus.
28:33
Speaker 9: And I cannot see a reason for this massive eighteen
28:36
Speaker 9: month time frame just to receive an interim report on
28:40
Speaker 9: puberty blockers, when for the last five years internationally we've
28:44
Speaker 9: had reputable, well conducted systematic review after reputable well conducted
28:49
Speaker 9: systematic review telling us that there's a lack of evidence
28:53
Speaker 9: of benefit for puberty blockers and cross sex hormones. So
28:57
Speaker 9: Mark Butler should be taking action right now to protect
29:01
Speaker 9: Australian children from harm, but he doesn't seem to want to.
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Speaker 2: So just so unclear the current guidelines that sit in
29:11
Speaker 2: and around the NHMRC, it would appear, and you've just
29:15
Speaker 2: backed up my assessments, I suppose it would appear it's
29:18
Speaker 2: about tweaking the status quo, tweaking those current guidelines, not
29:23
Speaker 2: a wholesale review, not going back to first principles and
29:25
Speaker 2: saying should we be using these drugs on Australian children,
29:30
Speaker 2: what sort of drugs are we using, what's the experience overseas?
29:33
Speaker 2: Not going back and saying should we do it in
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Speaker 2: the first place, just accepting that we should and writing
29:39
Speaker 2: guidelines about how we do it. Is that fair?
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Speaker 6: I'm not sure, Peter.
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Speaker 9: I think if the National Health and Medical Research Council
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Speaker 9: follow their own standards, as I said for guidelines, then
29:52
Speaker 9: they should do a proper job. But once again, it's
29:55
Speaker 9: just a question of whether whether we can get the
29:57
Speaker 9: integrity on that or whether trans gender activists will be
30:01
Speaker 9: quite heavily involved.
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Speaker 2: Will we see someone like you, doctor Spencer, go on this.
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Speaker 6: Review, Oh goodness, I doubt it.
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Speaker 9: I have yes legal action going on, and it seems
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Speaker 9: to prevent governments having contact with me.
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Speaker 6: They don't send me flowers.
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Speaker 2: Anyone else like you, though that should be on a
30:26
Speaker 2: review like this. Do you think.
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Speaker 9: Yes, well, I'd like to see the inclusion of experts
30:35
Speaker 9: like me who have very serious concerns about gender medicine.
30:38
Speaker 9: And I think, as we saw last year with the
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Speaker 9: Queensland government, the evaluation of the Queensland Children's Gender Service,
30:48
Speaker 9: and then also last year with the SAX Institute Evidence
30:51
Speaker 9: Check commissioned by the new South Wales government. Unfortunately, governments
30:57
Speaker 9: are able to select organizations or panels in order to
31:01
Speaker 9: receive the advice they want to hear, and one of
31:04
Speaker 9: the ways they do that is through stacking panels with
31:07
Speaker 9: transgender activists under the guise of having lived experience. But
31:11
Speaker 9: they never include people like people who are detransitioners, or
31:16
Speaker 9: any of the very large number of parents who are
31:18
Speaker 9: distressed because their child is being medicalized with gender interventions.
31:21
Speaker 9: So if they're going to include people with lived experience,
31:23
Speaker 9: they've got to take a much broader sample.
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Speaker 2: And look, as I understand it, just quickly the Queensland Government,
31:31
Speaker 2: despite the pressure from the transactivists, to drop their review.
31:35
Speaker 2: I think the Minister even says he doesn't think it's
31:38
Speaker 2: appropriate that the Queensland view At review keeps happening. The
31:43
Speaker 2: word I'm getting from the Queensland Government is it will
31:46
Speaker 2: still occur.
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Speaker 9: Oh, I'm so pleased and delighted that the Queensland Government
31:53
Speaker 9: has decided to continue with their review, and so I
31:56
Speaker 9: think what we're waiting for now is for Peter Dutton
31:58
Speaker 9: to announce his policy and leadership. I don't think he
32:02
Speaker 9: should leave it too much longer, because it does get
32:05
Speaker 9: a little embarrassing for a man in power to be
32:07
Speaker 9: seen to be leaving women and children in the firing line,
32:10
Speaker 9: and we do want him to just calmly step in
32:13
Speaker 9: and sort this out. He should announce that under a
32:16
Speaker 9: government he leads, there'll be a stopping of the prescription
32:20
Speaker 9: of puberty blockers and cross sex hormones to children, and
32:24
Speaker 9: that the care for children with gender distress should return
32:27
Speaker 9: to mainstream child and youth.
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Speaker 6: Mental health services.
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Speaker 9: So I think this is a wonderful opportunity for Peter
32:32
Speaker 9: Dutton to show leadership to protect a strand in children.
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Speaker 2: All Right, Jillian Spencer, I'll leave it there, thank you
32:39
Speaker 2: very much. Well on that vein. I certainly have raised
32:42
Speaker 2: these issues with Peter Dutton. On Thursday, I will have
32:46
Speaker 2: an in depth interview with him. I've already recorded it
32:48
Speaker 2: and I can tell you these things are absolutely on
32:50
Speaker 2: the table. We'll play a full hour of that interview
32:53
Speaker 2: with me and Peter Dutton on Thursday, which reverse a
32:57
Speaker 2: lot of topics policy and personal, if brutally honest insight
33:02
Speaker 2: into the man who could be Prime Minister in a
33:03
Speaker 2: number of weeks. There you go Sky News at six
33:06
Speaker 2: o'clock yere Thursday. Don't miss it. After the rate, the
33:09
Speaker 2: big change is going on and the Queensland government in
33:13
Speaker 2: relation to wind farms but also green hydridgen massive programs
33:18
Speaker 2: scrapped today. So she won't believe how much Climate two
33:21
Speaker 2: hundred spending on online advertising the fee this much in
33:24
Speaker 2: recent months, it's been more than the entire federal government spend.
33:29
Speaker 2: That's extraordinary. Welcome back. Still to calm the new South
33:36
Speaker 2: Bar's labor ministers lavish weekend all on the taxpayer coin
33:41
Speaker 2: doesn't pass the pub test, doesn't pass the winery test either.
33:45
Speaker 2: She's apologized, but I do not think that's enough. The
33:49
Speaker 2: first ruinous nature of the Albanezi government's energy policy is
33:52
Speaker 2: becoming more and more obvious. Today, the Food Distributors Association
33:56
Speaker 2: demanded the government drop it's eighty two percent renewables target,
34:00
Speaker 2: which is blamed for a fifty percent increase in power
34:03
Speaker 2: prices since labor took offers. Food employers want the government
34:07
Speaker 2: to approve new coal mines and gas fields, plus refurbished
34:11
Speaker 2: coalfi powerstations. Jen what they are calling a national energy
34:16
Speaker 2: emergency today. A government that constantly demands opposition costings was
34:21
Speaker 2: unable to provide credible costings for its own energy policy.
34:25
Speaker 2: Now they've got the treasury and all the resources of government,
34:28
Speaker 2: they still can't do it. In particular, they can't cost
34:32
Speaker 2: the extra transmission and firming that having eighty two percent
34:36
Speaker 2: renewables will require. Can you tell us this morning what
34:40
Speaker 2: is the total system cost?
34:43
Speaker 1: I'm very glad you raised.
34:46
Speaker 2: You don't make electricity prices and energy prices lower for
34:50
Speaker 2: austral and industry and households by making them higher.
34:53
Speaker 1: That's what That's what Peter Dutton's need.
34:55
Speaker 2: That's not exactly a revelation I see about your plans
34:58
Speaker 2: a nuclear plan. Stick on that right. Let's bring in
35:03
Speaker 2: my next guest Environment editor, The Australian Graham, Lloyd Graham.
35:09
Speaker 2: I think the wrong rab was played there, but he
35:12
Speaker 2: goes on further and it's put under real pressure. I'll
35:15
Speaker 2: talk to people in city to see if they can
35:17
Speaker 2: find this put under real pressure to disclose what the
35:21
Speaker 2: government's costs are rather than wings about the opposition, where
35:25
Speaker 2: are the government's costings? They've been in power for three
35:27
Speaker 2: years we're well and truly down the radical path of
35:30
Speaker 2: renewals only agreed for Australia. But that's not what we're
35:35
Speaker 2: getting from the governor. Are we.
35:39
Speaker 10: No?
35:39
Speaker 2: That tried?
35:39
Speaker 11: Peter good evening. This is an area that was a
35:43
Speaker 11: great strength for the government and it's now turning rapidly
35:46
Speaker 11: to be a big weakness. They've talked a big game
35:50
Speaker 11: about how the transition they're put in place will reduce
35:53
Speaker 11: prices and that will flow through, but there's no evidence
35:57
Speaker 11: of that happening, and the longer things go, the more
36:00
Speaker 11: difficulty they are having in explaining how that is going
36:04
Speaker 11: to work. It was significant today that the food producers
36:08
Speaker 11: came out and they really this is a plea for
36:12
Speaker 11: survival from them that costs a rising to the point
36:15
Speaker 11: where their businesses are imperiled, and they really want the
36:19
Speaker 11: government to focus on the security and price aspect of energy.
36:25
Speaker 11: I think we're going to see other employer groups come
36:28
Speaker 11: out and say similar things, which in the election contest
36:33
Speaker 11: really brings into the frame our consideration of things like
36:37
Speaker 11: targets and that sort of thing.
36:41
Speaker 2: I've been criss crossing Victoria talking about wind projects in particular,
36:45
Speaker 2: but also transmission lines, A lot of cranky communities. Obviously,
36:50
Speaker 2: if the wind farm company buys farmers land, as long
36:54
Speaker 2: as that farmers happy with the price, residents in the
36:58
Speaker 2: local area joining farms, no say. But not so now
37:01
Speaker 2: if you live in Queensland, because the government they're announced
37:04
Speaker 2: last week broad in effectively immediately starts today, starts Monday,
37:09
Speaker 2: that you must consult with affected communities. So this is
37:13
Speaker 2: a game changer in Queensland.
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Speaker 11: Well, how extraordinary is it that these large industrial facilities
37:22
Speaker 11: haven't been required to do proper community consultation and haven't
37:27
Speaker 11: been required to really outline what impact they will have
37:31
Speaker 11: and how their projects will be remediated. At the end,
37:35
Speaker 11: I think we're seeing that the trend in Victoria has
37:37
Speaker 11: been to lessen the oversight provisions and put all the
37:42
Speaker 11: decision making and the government's hands. Queensland's come in and
37:48
Speaker 11: they've obviously taken a big look at how the renewable
37:52
Speaker 11: business is rolling out, and they're putting in some checks
37:56
Speaker 11: that you have to argue along overdue.
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Speaker 2: Let's play some comments too from the Deputy Premier jar
38:03
Speaker 2: Oblige in Queensland earlier this morning. He's had this to
38:07
Speaker 2: stay in relation to what I would regard as the
38:09
Speaker 2: fantasy of green hydrogen.
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Speaker 7: The former Labor government had a stand or to invest
38:16
Speaker 7: one billion dollars, not funded, not budgeted by the way,
38:19
Speaker 7: and stand will have come to the government wanting more
38:22
Speaker 7: money than on top of the billion dollar. It was unfunded, unbudgeted,
38:24
Speaker 7: and that project will not proceed under the new government.
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Speaker 2: This is yet another green hydrogen business that's you know,
38:34
Speaker 2: it doesn't stack up.
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Speaker 11: And what we're seeing here is the private sector has
38:41
Speaker 11: kicked the ties on this. They've had a look and
38:44
Speaker 11: buy and large they've come to the firm conclusion that
38:48
Speaker 11: the economics and the technology are just not there. The
38:52
Speaker 11: main proponent of that project in Gladstone it was I
38:55
Speaker 11: think a Korean company they withdrew. The Queensland government towards
39:00
Speaker 11: credit has run a ruler over it and said well
39:04
Speaker 11: that taxpayers money shouldn't be put there either, all through
39:08
Speaker 11: the state owned electricity company. It's a bit of a
39:13
Speaker 11: pattern that's happened with the new government. They've had a
39:16
Speaker 11: look at the pumped hydro scheme also and said well,
39:19
Speaker 11: this was not costed, doesn't make economic sense, so they've
39:22
Speaker 11: canned that and it's one of the refreshing things where
39:25
Speaker 11: you get to change your government and you can sort
39:27
Speaker 11: of drop the baggage and the ideology and look at
39:30
Speaker 11: things on their merits.
39:34
Speaker 2: Now, Victoria's had some warm weather. I'm not going to
39:35
Speaker 2: call it a heat wave, Graham. We're only talking in
39:37
Speaker 2: the high thirties when I grew up. You know, the
39:40
Speaker 2: mid forties was a heat wave. It's not a heat wave.
39:43
Speaker 2: But nonetheless, high thirties are sending our grid in Victoria
39:47
Speaker 2: basically to the wall. The Australian Energy Market Operator AEMO
39:52
Speaker 2: predicted we could have the second highest level of energy
39:54
Speaker 2: consumption in Victoria in ten years. Today. Concerns about whether
40:00
Speaker 2: the system's going to cope blackouts, brownouts. I know there's
40:03
Speaker 2: some issues with the storms in parts of Victoria today,
40:08
Speaker 2: but again more talk that Victoria rich in gas will
40:12
Speaker 2: have to import gas because things have got so bad.
40:18
Speaker 11: Is extraordinary, is it. I mean, populations are growing, so
40:22
Speaker 11: power demand is going to grow at the same time.
40:25
Speaker 11: Victoria has known for many years that gas supplies in
40:29
Speaker 11: bachs Strait are running down, and it has done nothing
40:33
Speaker 11: about either of those two things. It's been closing the
40:36
Speaker 11: coal fired generation and assuming that it will be picked
40:40
Speaker 11: up in other ways. The evidence is that it's not.
40:44
Speaker 11: Gas remains a vital part of the system and there
40:47
Speaker 11: has been an absolute refusal to do anything about that.
40:52
Speaker 11: At a state level, the pressure of blackouts and system
40:57
Speaker 11: failures will probably concentrate the mind and as it is
41:01
Speaker 11: with the federal government, and something should be done. But
41:04
Speaker 11: it's been a tough road.
41:08
Speaker 2: We haven't forgotten Daniel Andrews down here in Victoria. Thank
41:11
Speaker 2: you very much, Graham Lloyd after the breaks, staggery amount
41:14
Speaker 2: of money the tlmps are spending on online advertising to
41:18
Speaker 2: buy your vote. Plus just today, after apologizing for a
41:22
Speaker 2: taxpayer funded winery trip, the new South Wales Transport Minister
41:26
Speaker 2: busted again. Well let's bring in my panel now, LMP
41:33
Speaker 2: Senator for Queensland James McGrath, Paul and Hanson's chief of
41:36
Speaker 2: staff James Ashby, Jens welcome. We'll start with some disclosures.
41:40
Speaker 2: We had them at the top of the show. These
41:41
Speaker 2: are the annual fundraising disclosures Donation and disclosures climbate two hundred.
41:47
Speaker 2: This is interesting. Robert Keldulis and his investment company have
41:50
Speaker 2: topped the list of donor's last financial year one point
41:54
Speaker 2: one million dollars but we've also learned the Climb two
41:57
Speaker 2: hundred has spent more than the Federal government saw any
42:01
Speaker 2: political party over the past three months in terms of
42:04
Speaker 2: online ads for Meta and Google, some half a million dollars.
42:09
Speaker 2: James McGrath. We've also learned too, Maneku Ryan and Allegal
42:13
Speaker 2: Spender alone spent one hundred and fifty thousand dollars themselves
42:19
Speaker 2: on online ads. Now where's this money coming from?
42:24
Speaker 10: We shouldn't forget, Peter. The Teals are the political wing
42:29
Speaker 10: of the renewable sector in Australia. So it's clear that
42:33
Speaker 10: when you follow the money from these big donors to
42:36
Speaker 10: the Teals, the Teals are doing with their wishes. And
42:40
Speaker 10: if you look at what is happening with the Teals
42:42
Speaker 10: and Climate two hundred, they claim to be all about
42:45
Speaker 10: accountability and transparency, but they're not because they don't record
42:49
Speaker 10: all of their donations. They use the law just as
42:52
Speaker 10: everybody else does. But they claim to be more pure
42:55
Speaker 10: than the rest of us when they're exactly the same.
42:58
Speaker 10: The Teals are a political party and Climate two hundred
43:01
Speaker 10: is a form of political money laundering to get money
43:05
Speaker 10: from vested interests into Parliament through the tills.
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Speaker 2: James, just James W. Grael stay on this point because
43:13
Speaker 2: the reason why I'd suspect they don't like your opposition
43:18
Speaker 2: leader's energy policy, the nuclear component at least, is that
43:22
Speaker 2: you want those nuclear power stations to be owned publicly,
43:26
Speaker 2: to be owned by the government. And of course you've
43:28
Speaker 2: got fifteen years of rent seekers in renewables already working
43:33
Speaker 2: out how they can cream off the subsidies and make
43:36
Speaker 2: their profits, and you would upend all of this with
43:39
Speaker 2: nuclear power.
43:42
Speaker 10: Yes, because we are taking a pragmatic approach to energy,
43:46
Speaker 10: because most people in a way don't care where their
43:48
Speaker 10: electricity comes from, but they want it to be affordable
43:51
Speaker 10: and they want it to be reliable, and we believe
43:53
Speaker 10: that nuclear should be part of the mix. So we're
43:55
Speaker 10: taking a proper public policy approach. That the tials and
43:59
Speaker 10: Climate two hundred and are run by these vested interests,
44:02
Speaker 10: and I've said the teals are the political wing of
44:04
Speaker 10: the renewable energy sector. They are doing what their masters
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Speaker 10: want because there is serious money in the renewable sector,
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Speaker 10: because it comes from the people watching this program, the
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Speaker 10: taxpayers of Australia, and it goes straight straight into these
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Speaker 10: big businessmen and women. But then send some of it
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Speaker 10: to the Teals.
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Speaker 2: And Flora and their private jets. All right, let's go
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Speaker 2: to New South Wales's scandal engulfing the transport Minister Joe Halen.
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Speaker 2: Taxpayer funded van and driver goes all the way up
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Speaker 2: to her holiday house and collectors collects her and a
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Speaker 2: few mates, including another minister. They then go off to
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Speaker 2: a Hunter Valley winery on the straight day long weekend.
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Speaker 2: They have a lovely long boozy lunch, goes on for
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Speaker 2: some time. They get all the way back to the
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Speaker 2: holiday house, drop them off, and the poor old driver
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Speaker 2: has to make his way back to Sydney some thirteen
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Speaker 2: hours on the job. Well we know about that this morning.
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Speaker 2: This afternoon we learn minister has used her taxpayer funded
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Speaker 2: driver to ferry her children to sports games on the weekend.
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Speaker 2: James Ashby, on what planet does any of this stuck up?
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Speaker 3: Well, it says a lot about the New South Wales
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Speaker 3: transport system, doesn't it if you've got to catch private
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Speaker 3: transport to get around the city and into some of
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Speaker 3: those more desirable places to go and have a boozy lunch.
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Speaker 3: But let's not forget it was the New South Wales
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Speaker 3: Premier barrio'farrell who lost his job over a bottle of wine,
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Speaker 3: and yet Labor are not calling for the head of
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Speaker 3: one of their own over what was very chef South
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Speaker 3: Wales taxpayer. I agree, yeah, you and I both know
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Speaker 3: she'll survive this. Why because we've got Federal Parliament returning tomorrow.
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Speaker 3: The distraction will be there, This will all be overlooked
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Speaker 3: in a couple of days time. She'll escape with no
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Speaker 3: consequences whatsoever. One thing I will say, she has some
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Speaker 3: cauterize the wound to a degree by at least apologizing.
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Speaker 3: That's the least she could do. But if she had
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Speaker 3: any integrity, she'd step down because I don't trust her
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Speaker 3: judgment moving forward as a minister, not at all.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to the departure of Stephen Jones. Is the
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Speaker 2: fourth government or former government minister in the Albaneza government
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Speaker 2: to walk the plank. So he's leaving. If the Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister is to be believed on the cusp of yet
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Speaker 2: another great victory for Labor, that doesn't make sense, does it.
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Speaker 2: The woman they're talking about that will get the seat
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Speaker 2: Carol Berry James McGrath. It's a very safe seat. You
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Speaker 2: would think it would go to Labor Royalty, but instead
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Speaker 2: the scuttle buddies. The Prime Minister is going to swoop
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Speaker 2: in and shoehorn this woman into that seat. But she's
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Speaker 2: a three time endorsed Green's candidate. What's going on here?
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Speaker 10: Well, Anthony Albanezi is a weak prime Minister, so he's
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Speaker 10: trying to install his type of people in the Labor Party.
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Speaker 10: Who are Greens. Remember the Greens are a racist, anti
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Speaker 10: Semitic party. Remember that the Prime Minister should not be
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Speaker 10: doing a preference deal with the Greens, but he's going
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Speaker 10: to do that. And now he's poaching failed Green candidates
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Speaker 10: to run for him. So if I was a normal
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Speaker 10: Labor Party member in the seed of Whitlam, I would
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Speaker 10: be rolling my eyes at a great speed of knots.
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Speaker 10: This is what my party has come to, that the
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Speaker 10: Prime Minister is getting Greens to run as my local
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Speaker 10: Labor Party candidates. Where do the blue collar tradees? Who
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Speaker 10: are they going? Who's going to represent them in Whitlam.
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Speaker 10: It's not going to be some Green person. It will
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Speaker 10: be the Liberal Party who will be the party standing
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Speaker 10: up for the working class people in Whitlam.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'd love the Liberal Party to get a spine
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Speaker 2: and get ourselves a good candidate in that seed there
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Speaker 2: ego James McGrath's send that message to Canberra gens. I'll
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Speaker 2: leave it there. Thank you for your time, all right,
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Speaker 2: don't forget, As I said, my long form interview, a
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Speaker 2: whole hour, a whole lot of topics, nothing off limit
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Speaker 2: with Peter Dutton on Thursday here at six o'clock. That's
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Speaker 2: it for me. I was gonna say, Peter Dunnut next.
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Speaker 2: Now Andrew bolts up next