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Patriots Unfiltered 1/25: Offseason Hot Topics, NFL Draft Talk, Conference Championship Picks · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: I do have a theory though, first theory at twelve
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  Speaker 1: oh six. Yeah, well, Evan's trying to stay humble even
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  Speaker 1: though he's not really being humble. That's my favorite thing here.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody will be rooting against Mahomes because he's not as
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  Speaker 1: good as Tom.
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  Speaker 6: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: We got to keep him from being the go correct right.
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  Speaker 1: But it's so transparent, you know the difference between you
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  Speaker 1: in most what you don't say that Mahomes sucks.
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  Speaker 2: Oh No, I like fabricating reasons to root against teams.
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  Speaker 1: The problem is sharks. Later the mat.
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  Speaker 2: Paul, do you have a vantage point to see if
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  Speaker 2: Fred's food stains and his Emerson shirt are still there?
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  Speaker 1: For last week Fred did jewash. It screwed, and there
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  Speaker 1: was still so much time left. And I looked at Pat.
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  Speaker 1: I said, that's got to be wrong. It's got to
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  Speaker 1: only be second. They're not going to call time out.
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  Speaker 1: We still got to wait till one second in the
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  Speaker 1: play clock. They could force us to have to run
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  Speaker 1: a fourth found play, but if they do, let's make
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  Speaker 1: sure it's with less than five seconds left.
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  Speaker 2: That was about coaching an NFL coach. May I recommend
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  Speaker 2: the Paul Parrello school of clock fred management.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here
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  Speaker 2: at Jillette.
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  Speaker 1: Stadium, and we're how many days into the Girodmeo regime?
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  Speaker 1: I think about eight eight days. There'd be no math
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  Speaker 1: eight days. So things are.
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  Speaker 2: We're still waiting on Hire's. Interviews are happening, the wheels
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  Speaker 2: are two earning, but no smoke out of the chimney yet.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know.
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  Speaker 8: Uh.
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  Speaker 5: The Chargers took that one last night when they hired Harba.
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  Speaker 1: They hired Harbor. That was big, yeah, a big one.
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  Speaker 5: Whole uh barrel full of social media posts just ready
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  Speaker 5: to go, and so yeah, congratulations that what did they
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  Speaker 5: what did they say? They have one that was like
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  Speaker 5: the Pope Paul, this is not stuff that is that interesting.
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  Speaker 5: It's like, you know, it's no.
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  Speaker 1: I was just curious what they like a did anybody
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  Speaker 1: do any puff girl or.
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  Speaker 5: Some kind of cartoon character with like a bunch of
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  Speaker 5: pictures of Harbor And I don't know they had a
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  Speaker 5: whole they had a bunch of They.
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  Speaker 1: Really do love themselves. I used to think Fred like
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  Speaker 1: the smell of his own farts, but no one likes
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  Speaker 1: to smell of their own farts, like the Chargers content.
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  Speaker 5: And they're all pitching ideas like great, we'll do that one, Great,
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  Speaker 5: we'll do that one. Like everybody, we're doing all of them.
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  Speaker 1: But they're a little overrated.
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  Speaker 9: I'm not gonna lie.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, speaking of content, though, I do need to clear
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  Speaker 2: the air on behalf of behalf, behalf of our own
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  Speaker 2: content team.
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  Speaker 8: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Brett from Lemonster writes in I have a friend who
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  Speaker 2: listens to the worst reporters on patriot stuff. Every bad
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  Speaker 2: Trader move they say the Patriots should do. He runs
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  Speaker 2: by our group one of these morons slagged off the
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  Speaker 2: promo for Deuce's new podcast two thousand and three, The
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  Speaker 2: Super Sequel, because they didn't show Belichick. He thinks it's
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  Speaker 2: because Kraft made it. So I searched for a promo
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  Speaker 2: for the one podcast and only found an audio one
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  Speaker 2: which didn't mention Kraft either while he was the coach,
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  Speaker 2: but didn't find a video. What can I tell my friends,
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  Speaker 2: because I know Kraft did not tell Deuce to scrub
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  Speaker 2: Belichick on the promo.
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  Speaker 1: Well think again, Pilm.
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  Speaker 2: Not only did he not only did not tell Deuce,
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  Speaker 2: he didn't tell the person who did the promo. I
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  Speaker 2: thought she did a great job. I because I heard
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  Speaker 2: all this thing. You know, I didn't even know it.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even see it before went out, but I
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  Speaker 2: heard you didn't put Belichick in this. When I went
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  Speaker 2: to her, I said, did you do that on purchase?
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  Speaker 8: Like?
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  Speaker 1: No, it's like you know, I had. It was really long.
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  Speaker 1: I cut it down and he just didn't wasn't in there.
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  Speaker 1: It was.
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  Speaker 5: It was a weird genesis of that because it was
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  Speaker 5: initially just an audio trailer that Matt had made, and
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  Speaker 5: then we just put video onto it. So people were
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  Speaker 5: losing their mind yesterday. I mean, I'm having.
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  Speaker 1: People Shaughnessy was tweeting about it today. They're they not
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  Speaker 1: have a coach back then.
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  Speaker 5: People, Yeah, they're dming me because of the cover we do.
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  Speaker 5: The people I interviewed, and they're like, why why would
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  Speaker 5: you have Peoli and not Bill? I interviewed Poli, Like
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  Speaker 5: I don't, people are just losing their mind.
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  Speaker 1: Probably would have interviewed Bill if you would have done it.
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  Speaker 5: No, no, just no, just the important people. Paul, Sorry,
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  Speaker 5: we can't.
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  Speaker 1: My clock man.
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  Speaker 2: So like when we post this thing and Bill's not
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  Speaker 2: my interview, are we going to get a wrap for that?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know? And people were I mean, it's like
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  Speaker 5: I can't even really engage with it because it's like
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  Speaker 5: when do you start to like explain and like, dude,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, look, I'm the hoodie guy. You think that
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to go and like it was now, I
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  Speaker 5: will say that.
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  Speaker 2: There were a couple of cuts where if I was
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  Speaker 2: doing it like the safety maybe you know you cut
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  Speaker 2: to Bill on the sideline, you know, that would have
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  Speaker 2: been a good edit.
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  Speaker 1: But again, it was just a teaser for a podcast.
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  Speaker 5: I'm glad you brought this.
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  Speaker 1: Which, by the way, the podcast is just audio, you
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  Speaker 1: know it's not.
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  Speaker 5: And I didn't talk to Bill in it either. There
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  Speaker 5: was nothing against Bill. There is a Bill cutting it,
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  Speaker 5: and I do mention his name a few times, and
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  Speaker 5: we do talk about that he was the coach, and
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  Speaker 5: people can stop before anybody wants to do on this road.
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  Speaker 1: The invitation for Belichick to be included in these pieces
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  Speaker 1: of content that we do is there is always there, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we asked all the time. I'm sorry, we ask all
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  Speaker 1: the time and generally do not get.
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  Speaker 2: So if anyone's listening that it's part of the cabal
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  Speaker 2: yesterday of conspiracy.
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  Speaker 1: And I blame a lot of your people, Paul, this
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  Speaker 1: was this predated my people yesterday. I guess my people
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  Speaker 1: will be upset about that today. On Twitter. These are
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  Speaker 1: the people this was on Twitter.
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  Speaker 4: These are the people commenting on my community articles. As
• 5:59
  Speaker 4: if we didn't have a months long well what like
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  Speaker 4: three months we started planning the thirtieth anniversary of Robert
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  Speaker 4: Kraft buying the team, right, we weren't gonna do that.
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  Speaker 2: But there is a group of people who literally thought
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  Speaker 2: that Belichick like proof read our stuff before got published.
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  Speaker 1: Now that's my people. Yeah, I mean like, no, he
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  Speaker 1: has nothing to do with it, and no, we didn't
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  Speaker 1: leave him out on purpose.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I was a one minute trailer.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I couldn't. I couldn't believe it. And it's still like
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  Speaker 5: continuing in today, like and people are so angry about Oh,
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, it's a bad look. Why are you look
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  Speaker 5: like this is getting you angry? Pet like I wrote
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  Speaker 5: that the absence of Bill, I mean, and especially just
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  Speaker 5: because it's me, like, because it's me, the Bill Belicher
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  Speaker 5: coodie guy that did it.
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  Speaker 2: Like Brian Morey was texting me all night. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I said, what are you gunning for the Falcons job?
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  Speaker 1: Like, what do you you know? He's he's he's lost
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  Speaker 1: his mind, Yeah I was.
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  Speaker 5: How was he doing? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Not well? Ye, not coping well? Like I jabbed him.
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  Speaker 2: I said, listen, when we do the Hernandez biopic, Bill
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  Speaker 2: will be front and center.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't like that he made me snuff my diapepie.
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  Speaker 1: That's good. Texted that's good, that's good.
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  Speaker 2: But like you know, like I don't know how many
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  Speaker 2: times I can like, if you don't want to believe it,
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  Speaker 2: that's fine.
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  Speaker 1: You don't want to believe me. That's up to you.
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  Speaker 1: It's your prerogative. But I'm just telling you.
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  Speaker 5: No, you know, and people like, like, seriously, just just
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  Speaker 5: tell me, did you guys?
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  Speaker 9: Purposely, Yeah, we just we're in a we're in a
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  Speaker 9: lose lose situation when it comes to these things though,
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  Speaker 9: because like us responding to it, and I do I
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  Speaker 9: find myself of course, I get like, you know, defensive.
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  Speaker 9: It's our brand, you know, it's our our content, so
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  Speaker 9: like I want to defend the wall and everything, but
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  Speaker 9: like there's no use for it.
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  Speaker 1: Like if it was true, I would just keep my
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  Speaker 1: mouth shut and take it.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 5: That's that's what I do.
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  Speaker 1: How many times people have accused me of doing that?
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  Speaker 1: Oh like, oh, you're write what they want you to, right,
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  Speaker 1: just like I mean, right, what are you gonna do?
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  Speaker 2: But people have been here for twenty four years and
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  Speaker 2: that's and we've said it before. That is one thing
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  Speaker 2: that I love about the Crafts. It's from the day
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  Speaker 2: I started. We did the newspaper they said, when it
• 8:04
  Speaker 2: comes to football, you be objective, just don't take any
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  Speaker 2: cheap shots or but you know, Evan, the the guys
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  Speaker 2: from the NFL when we're Germany said, yeah, we use
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  Speaker 2: your stuff to get to prep you know, you know,
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  Speaker 2: your analysis because we're objective about it.
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  Speaker 1: Because they're Germany, they don't know anything about NFL peoples. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it just you know, give because you're not helping. You're
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  Speaker 1: not helping. Well, yeah, just because you just have to
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  Speaker 1: embrace it. Like, yeah, it's not you know what you do. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: if you thought you did it on purpose, then it's
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  Speaker 1: worth talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'll agree, Like there were a couple of
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  Speaker 2: cuts where okay, you could have used Bill there.
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  Speaker 4: But like sure, yeah Charlie White could engagement what good engagement?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's how the way I looked at it.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, I thought it was a great trailer trailer,
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  Speaker 1: but it was. It was well done, and I think
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  Speaker 1: Alex is right, it probably got more eyeballs on it.
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  Speaker 5: Miss you missed, Well, it's not what you missed, it's
• 9:10
  Speaker 5: what they missed.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't put Bill in it. It's a.
• 9:16
  Speaker 5: Disagree with leaving Bill out of the trailer on purpose.
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  Speaker 9: They they are these people are so obsessed with the
• 9:23
  Speaker 9: Boston media, whether it's US or in house media or
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  Speaker 9: external media, and they think we're worthless. They think that
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  Speaker 9: they're you know, like that our jobs are worthless, but
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  Speaker 9: they spend more time talking about how our jobs are worthless,
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  Speaker 9: and we spend doing our jobs.
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  Speaker 5: So like like who's the one that's who's the one
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  Speaker 5: not getting paid.
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  Speaker 9: It's like you sit on Twitter every single day and
• 9:45
  Speaker 9: if somebody tweets out something, you have notifications on for
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  Speaker 9: all of us, and it's immediate, you know, Keyboard Warrior,
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  Speaker 9: and it's just it's just get a life, honestly, up emotion.
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: Today they have their bots that crawling everything that we do.
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: I just had to get that. It's like, no, but
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: out of the way. For Evan, this is like, you know,
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: you're not really used to being in the spot where
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: this happens. This is stuf. I'm telling you. It happens
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  Speaker 1: all the time. That happens all the time. I almost
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: I was like I was circling the wagons, but I
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: was like, I better not. And Fred's Fred's only slightly
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: exaggerating when he says that, you know, like like Mike
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  Speaker 1: and Tony of Mike used to come in here and
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: argue with Fred Felger. Mike Felger all the time, back
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: when he had his old show at the old ESPN,
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: and they legitimately thought that, like we have to get
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: things proof read or checked out by football, Like you
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  Speaker 1: can't write that. They wouldn't write that if they didn't
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  Speaker 1: get the okay, like that Bill was like going over
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  Speaker 1: to copy with a fine toothed comb, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: this is stuff we've been dealing with, Matt, Matt, I
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  Speaker 1: love you, Fred, but there's no way anyone is gonna
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  Speaker 1: believe Bill was left out as an oversight, please stop see.
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  Speaker 1: But because it wasn't an oversight, it wasn't necessarily part
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  Speaker 1: of like you're just putting together a real highlights to
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  Speaker 1: promote from the super Bowl, like and I made this
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  Speaker 1: audio thing. She's putting pictures to the audio I made,
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  Speaker 1: and you're using highlights right, like highlights generally, don't you know?
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  Speaker 4: I just want if they could talk to her three minutes,
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  Speaker 4: they would know it wasn't at all planned like that
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  Speaker 4: for crying, Oh there you go, all right, but like that,
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  Speaker 4: like her identity.
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  Speaker 5: It's like that two seconds shot of Bill like on
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  Speaker 5: the sidelines, like that would have done it for oh there,
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  Speaker 5: it is great, all right.
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  Speaker 1: I feel battery and.
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  Speaker 5: I mean and and in fairness, like like you said,
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  Speaker 5: we showed then the safety snap, which like in the
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  Speaker 5: thing we talked about so now and like where people
• 11:48
  Speaker 5: are going to listen to and be like, oh, you
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  Speaker 5: only had like forty seven seconds of mentioning Bill Belichick.
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  Speaker 1: You might want to that's not enough. You need more,
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  Speaker 1: like otherwise you were scrubbing it like Mike, you might
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  Speaker 1: want to do it again, just go back through and
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  Speaker 1: like it since Bill back to the drawing.
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  Speaker 5: But I wouldn't given what I wouldn't have given to
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  Speaker 5: have Bill Belichick sit down and do it with me, like.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, you know, let's let's do another podcast all
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  Speaker 1: Belichick the early years.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Bill, oh man, I'm excited to see how people
• 12:13
  Speaker 5: are going to react to this because it seems like
• 12:15
  Speaker 5: they're not going to accept any of it.
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  Speaker 1: So that's the trailer. We go back to the first
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: time Bill Belichick gave gave Paul that look.
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  Speaker 2: Because like when you do these things, you know, for example, Peoli,
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: he's one of many.
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  Speaker 1: That you it's an extensive interview.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like you're trying to cover while you have them
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: on the phone, a lot of stuff so that you
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  Speaker 2: don't have to have multiple phone calls.
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  Speaker 1: Bill wasn't going to do that in a way.
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  Speaker 7: You know, I spent forty five to fifty minutes with
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  Speaker 7: each of these people, right, yeah, yeah, I.
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  Speaker 5: Mean we and then we did pull you know, this year,
• 12:42
  Speaker 5: Bill just happened to mention in one of his pressers,
• 12:44
  Speaker 5: how Brady and O three he felt like really arrived,
• 12:47
  Speaker 5: and you know, it was like pull that, like, you know,
• 12:49
  Speaker 5: anything we can get of Bill, we did in the
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  Speaker 5: first one too, you know, so we can't get him directly,
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  Speaker 5: but anytime we had sounded yeah he had said that,
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  Speaker 5: we thought worked. We you know, of course, try to
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  Speaker 5: put it in so I don't know people are.
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  Speaker 1: So we apologize for, you know, the people who were
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  Speaker 1: because obviously there were a lot of you, because I
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: did hear from a lot of you yesterday. Yeah, same
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  Speaker 1: type of people. All right, let's get back to more
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  Speaker 1: pertinent issues.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean, what's the latest, Evan, I know
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  Speaker 2: you're you're keeping track on.
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  Speaker 1: O C or DC interviews.
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  Speaker 9: Oh yeah, yeah, me and Deuce. Yeah, you know, we're
• 13:25
  Speaker 9: a tag team in this one to stay up a
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  Speaker 9: little date. And right now, it's honestly very quiet. There's
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  Speaker 9: not a whole lot of of interviews leaking at the moment,
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  Speaker 9: So the only available offense, he'll tell you, yeah, right,
• 13:40
  Speaker 9: maybe I should just go down the hallidiad. The only
• 13:43
  Speaker 9: available offensive coordinator candidates that we know they've interviewed, or
• 13:48
  Speaker 9: Zach Robinson and Nick Kayley, because they did interview Shannon Waldron,
• 13:52
  Speaker 9: but he took the Bears job, and they were going
• 13:56
  Speaker 9: to interview Dan Pitcher, but he got promoted internally with
• 13:59
  Speaker 9: with the Bengals. So those are the only two guys
• 14:01
  Speaker 9: as of right now that are we know for a
• 14:03
  Speaker 9: fact that they're interested in. Obviously, Josh McDaniels is kind
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  Speaker 9: of lurking, you know, in the in the background, depending
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  Speaker 9: on what Bill does.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe there was a.
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  Speaker 2: Rumor today, I think Schefter it was speculation. He made
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: it clear it's speculation, it's not based on anything. But
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: when he speculates, it's kind of, you know, like when
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: Ree speculates, there's probably something there that Bill and maybe
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: others might be waiting for the chiefs to see what happens,
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: because Reid might, you know, retire if they win it.
• 14:33
  Speaker 5: Really yeah, well I didn't see that.
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  Speaker 9: So he thinks that Bill would want to take a
• 14:38
  Speaker 9: run at the chief's job if it comes.
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  Speaker 2: Available, if it became available. I didn't, and the chiefs
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: would obviously it would have to be mutual.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I didn't see that rumor. That's a schefter speculation.
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: I imagine taking Patrick Mahomes and seeing, do you think
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: you can get seventeen points for us.
• 14:56
  Speaker 5: Handed off. I do think though this bill thing is
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: maybe holding up some of the Patriots staff stuff. I mean,
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: I know, oh, there are some guys who maybe you're
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: in limbo belchick kids being probably at the forefront.
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: But if I was the head coach of the New
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: England Patriots, I would say I need a decision now.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think those are the only two as well.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: That's it, you know, I can't wait. I need to
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: start filling my staff. You're either with me or you're out,
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: and that's it. I wouldn't wait.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't give them.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: I know he's probably being a good guy giving letting them,
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: you know, wait, but I wouldn't allow them to.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: And I do think there's no one answer. You know,
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: Evan and I talked about this on Tuesday that you know,
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: if it's Covington, there's less urgency for those guys on
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: defense because I think you feel like it's going to
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: be Covington, and if Steve and Brian, you probably have
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: ideas of how they're going to factor in, so then
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: you know, and I think reeseaid the thing about the
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: assistant head coach advisor kind of thing for Steve. So
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: the more urgency to me is is offensively. And I
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: am a little concerned, now, do we know. I know
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: I've read a couple of places that Waldron did in
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: fact interview. Yeah, and I also I also saw someone
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: that said that he canceled his interview because he had
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: gone and I think that's what happened with the pitcher.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: Pitcher canceled. Yeah, So and I've also read I think
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: I read the Herald this morning that said that they
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: both interviewed, and I didn't think that that was accurate.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: But one of them did interview and one of them didn't.
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: I was under the impression that that the first one
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: did had interview a bit but got through the cracks.
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: We didn't really have it reported initially, and so I don't.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Know, I'm a little I'm a little concerned about the
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: offensive side of things because I feel like there are
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: a lot there's a lot of movement around the league
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator wise, and I feel like, I mean, I'm
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: not trying to be overly negative, but this isn't really
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: an overly attractive job.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Did Zach Robinson He's still out there, He's still out there.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: He supposedly he did come in. He well, I don't
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: know if he came in or if he was zuomed,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: but he interviewed.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: But I'm wondering if they're waiting to hire the OC
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: and the let have the OC have latitude in hiring
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: his own staff.
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know, I would hope.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I think that I think there's a
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: chance that it could be Robinson and Kaylee. Yeah, if
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: you if you want that direct Yeah, I mean, I'm
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: with Paul on this. I just how we started Catch
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: twenty two. I don't want to be alarmist, but like
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: I am.
• 17:18
  Speaker 9: Worried about the offensive coordinator position because it's not an
• 17:21
  Speaker 9: attractive job. Like you are building from the studs on
• 17:24
  Speaker 9: that side of it.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: But in that way, you can't lose. You can only
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: go up. So but you lose, you can lose because
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: if it goes belly up, then it's you and you're
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: not getting another no.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: But it can't get worse than it was. You were
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: the lowest team in terms of points score.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: No, I understand that. But if you, like, if you
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: take that job, it's high risk, Hyrie Ward like if
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: you if it were if you go in and you
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: take the thirty second ranked offense with a rookie quarterback
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you Bobby slowick it right,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: and you you're going to be in line for head
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: coaching jobs. But I think, but if it's really bad
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: and you're out of a job in two years, you're
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: not gon be.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: It's got to be really bad because let's let's face it,
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: he's starting at the bottom.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: You've got a top three pick. All you have to
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: do is show improvement.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: But what if you don't, I I can't find I
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: think that even if Bill O'Brien stayed, he would have
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: it would be improved, right.
• 18:18
  Speaker 9: I think Bill O'Brien felt that this last year was
• 18:24
  Speaker 9: a blemish on his I think he felt like it
• 18:26
  Speaker 9: was hurting his stock.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: It might this, Yeah, that's not why he left.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Why he left I think he I think he might
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: have also thought maybe he should have been considered for head.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Coach, and I well, that might be he didn't want
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: any part of it.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: And I don't And again I don't know anything you know,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: But like the whole leaking, you know, Gerard had a
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: felt he had to, you know, clear the air and
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: go on and explain what's what If Gerard thinks that
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: was Bill O'Brien, that ain't gonna work anymore.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: If you want to say it was mutual, I wouldn't
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: necessarily disagree with that. I'm just telling you that I'm
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: pretty certain that Billy wanted out.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, sometimes you know you want out when you.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Know he wanted out long before the change was made.
• 19:11
  Speaker 9: Okay, I just I look at this job, and yes,
• 19:14
  Speaker 9: you can make the blank canvas argument it's yours, it's your,
• 19:18
  Speaker 9: it's your oyster, and make it happen, right, But at
• 19:20
  Speaker 9: the same time, you're you're really hitching your wagon to
• 19:22
  Speaker 9: a rookie quarterback and that quarterback.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Being good one that you had input in selecting.
• 19:27
  Speaker 9: Sure, but if it goes good, like if you're Zach Robinson,
• 19:31
  Speaker 9: Zach Robinson is on the track to be a head
• 19:33
  Speaker 9: coach in the NFL. If he comes to the Patriots
• 19:36
  Speaker 9: and they have a terrible season on offense, Now, all
• 19:38
  Speaker 9: of a sudden, his whole career.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Just what happened about betting on yourself and being confident
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: in your own.
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: Ability That some guys do it, Yeah, some guys.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Those are the guys I want. Some guys you're afraid
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: of this job. I don't want you anyway. Well, that's
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: the type of guy that they don't find.
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: That's great.
• 19:51
  Speaker 8: You can.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: You can hitch up your breeches and be all mister
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: and you're looking for. They were a handful of guys
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: around the league that we're afraid of trying to build
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: this offense. And I would give the one example. I
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: know you hate the Bengals. Yeah, but I'm speculating with
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: fact like Brian Callahan going from an offensive coordinator where
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: he doesn't call the plays in Cincinnati and getting a
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: head coaching job. Told what's the guy's name, Dan, Dan Pitcher,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Dan Pitcher, that I can stay right here and be
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator with with talent, and I will be
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: in line for a head coaching job a couple of
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: years down the road. I don't need to call the job,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: or I can go to the Patriots and inherit the
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: thirty second ranked offense under the guise of it has
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: to get better when it just got worse after twenty two,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: when everybody said it has to get better, including me.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna come in. You're gonna be
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: able to build it in the way we all know
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: why curious answered with it because of the quarterback and
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: because of the talent. Right, But now you're gonna be
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: involved in building it from scratch.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: So let's go. You believe in yourself? Do you believe
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: in your judgment? I don't know. Do you believe in
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: any one of these quarterbacks? I think Bill O'Brien knows
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: what he's doing. Yeah. Do you think he believes in himself? Yep?
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Like you could be the best coach in the world
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: if if it doesn't work, it doesn't work, but it's
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: gonna be a reflection on you. But why didn't it work?
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: I think there were a myriad of why didn't work?
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Why why it didn't work? Because they didn't have a
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: good staff? Number one? Okay, you know around Billy O'Brien,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: they didn't have a good quarterback you're gonna build. They
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: don't have good players. You got all things that are
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: existing right now, I don't have any of.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: You're gonna build your own staff. You're gonna have the
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: top three pick, and you're gonna have input in the
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: draft for for your players.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: How do you know you're getting build your own And
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: you're like, why are you making assumption? And the head
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: coach just said they got money to burn. Gerard Mayo
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: is gonna be building his own Okay, how do you
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: know that the head coach, Zach Robinson is the head
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: coach just said we got money to burn.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: We're going to be bringing in talent, so you know, Okay,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: So like twenty twenty one, I want a guy who
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: believes in himself and wants to build an offense because
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: all the pieces are gonna be there.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: It sounds great on a little like slogan. Yeah, I
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: want a guy who wants to bet on himself. That's great,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: But what if you can't get a guy like that? Well,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: who's not like that in the NFL? Really, I just
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: gave you two examples, and and you ken Waldron and yeah,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: and you just remember a position you played. I can't
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: remember his first name, just like he forgetting his first
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: year name, like you know, you know you've had a
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: few of those. I think all the elements will be
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: here to succeed. I think that's a crazy assumption. Why
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: because they haven't had all the elements to succeed in
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: like five years, but all of a sudden, this is
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: the year they're going to now they have the other
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: So this gets back to why. Why is because Bill
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Belichick is gone? All right, So in your case, so
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: no team can ever get better. In offense, of course
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: you can get better. But if I have my choice
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: between the five or six other openings in this one,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take one of the five or six others.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: They're better, That's all I'm saying.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Because you're saying they're more ready made, they're more ready
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: to succeed.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Right, I'm not telling you that nobody will take this,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: just not someone. You're saying it's not as much work
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: involved at these other places. No, they have better They
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: have better scenarios for you to succeed. Why because they
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: have better players.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: I just said they have, they're more ready made. It's
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: it's they're closer to the top than this team is
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Right, Well, yeah, every team is.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's exactly my point.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know why, But I don't know why you
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: hold that against the person I don't want that guy.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I don't want that guy who looks at yeah, I
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: don't see and wants to be the head coach there
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: instead of Patriots.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: And I don't want, understand, I don't want anyone that
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: looks at this job and piece down their leg.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: So you know, okay, well that's what you're gonna get
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: stuck with. Went on is Evan and I have're gonna
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: get stuck with the guy you're gonna get stuck with
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: whoever doesn't get the other jobs. That's what the fear
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: for ever, I use, we'll see ords like McDaniels or well, yeah,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: which would be I think the worst of all of these.
• 24:16
  Speaker 9: Are guy like Kellen Moore, who could you like, isn't
• 24:19
  Speaker 9: exactly the hottest candidate no more.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I would take just because it's different. But McDaniels, to me,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: would be the worst possible right you're going to get.
• 24:26
  Speaker 9: You know, it's a game of musical chairs, and you're
• 24:28
  Speaker 9: gonna be left with whatever the scraps are. That's what
• 24:32
  Speaker 9: I'm worried about.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Like I I would hope that you end up being right,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: and whoever ends up taking the job does do what
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Bobby Sloe it takes over a terrible offense, he maybe
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: didn't have any other options with his Richie Cunningham looks
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: and he knocks it out of the park with CJ. Strill.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I hope that's what I would hope for. I hope
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: that whoever they want, they really want and when they
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: they don't let him out of the building, they make
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: him an offer that he can't refuse.
• 24:57
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and I'm not saying that this is not necessarily
• 24:59
  Speaker 9: the case, but but when when uh Deamiko Ryans got
• 25:03
  Speaker 9: the job in Houston, he knew who like the guys
• 25:06
  Speaker 9: he was taken with him were right now, he came
• 25:09
  Speaker 9: from someplace else, so it's different, right, But he knew
• 25:11
  Speaker 9: that he was taking Bobby Slowik with him from San Francisco,
• 25:14
  Speaker 9: and they were, you know, Bobby slow is gonna be
• 25:16
  Speaker 9: the offensive coordinator, so on and so forth. He was gonna,
• 25:18
  Speaker 9: you know, Demika Ryans calls the plays and runs the
• 25:20
  Speaker 9: defense himself. So he knew all like, the one thing
• 25:23
  Speaker 9: that I with the weight here that we have that's
• 25:27
  Speaker 9: going on, is what was the plan? Like who who
• 25:30
  Speaker 9: is Girard Mayo's number one offensive coordinator target? And if
• 25:34
  Speaker 9: it was maybe it was Shane Waldron, and and and
• 25:37
  Speaker 9: he ends up taking the Bears job. Like, to your point,
• 25:41
  Speaker 9: why why you know, why why did we not aggressively
• 25:46
  Speaker 9: if they if they really liked him, right, Shane Waldron,
• 25:48
  Speaker 9: Zach Robinson, whoever it is. But my my, my fear
• 25:53
  Speaker 9: is that it's taking so long because they might not
• 25:56
  Speaker 9: necessarily have had their ducks completely in a row, because
• 25:59
  Speaker 9: a lot of these guys take jobs and immediately know
• 26:02
  Speaker 9: who their first call is to run whichever side of
• 26:05
  Speaker 9: the ball is not their side of the ball. And
• 26:07
  Speaker 9: right now I look at it and I say, I
• 26:09
  Speaker 9: don't I don't know if he knew who his first
• 26:11
  Speaker 9: call was.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that could be true.
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: Maybe it was Josh, But I mean that's I think
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: speaks to what Mayo, what his disadvantage is. He hasn't
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: been in a lot of places. He doesn't know a
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: lot of people. Robinson was here, Nick Kay.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: You see that Josh leaves.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: He brings a bunch of people with him. When anybody
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: leaves that that's exact.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: People with him.
• 26:28
  Speaker 9: And that's why I feel like Josh it might have
• 26:30
  Speaker 9: been his guy. Because Josh is a head coach of
• 26:33
  Speaker 9: the offense. That's somebody that can come in and run
• 26:37
  Speaker 9: that side of the ball, hire his own people, do
• 26:39
  Speaker 9: the whole thing.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 26:40
  Speaker 9: Josh McDaniels comes back, So does Nick Kaylee, So does
• 26:44
  Speaker 9: Bohart agree. So you know, all of a sudden you
• 26:46
  Speaker 9: have a staff. Yeah, on that side of the ball.
• 26:50
  Speaker 9: You know, carn Barscilla already took the Giants job, so
• 26:52
  Speaker 9: he's not available, but I'm sure he has somebody else,
• 26:55
  Speaker 9: you know, maybe Cole Popovich comes back.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Does that excite people? The only one that's no, It
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: doesn't excite wanting that to happen. Josh No.
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: I think what was exciting to me was the Rams
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: guys and you know, starting to just like, let's let's
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: get a new offense in here. We've had two offensive
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: coordinators over the last you know, not counting the Mat
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: Pacerci year, I mean over the last twenty years, you
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: have two guys basically running the same offense for the
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: most part.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: You know what I think, I think Evan's question is
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: a goo, who is your main guy? If it was
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Shane Waldron, why didn't she get them? You know, was
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: it a money thing or was it just a strictly
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: an opportunity He saw that one as better than this one.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: And if that's the case, then you should have hupped
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: your ante.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: A little bit.
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: I mean, it could be as simple, or is it?
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: You know, like, is there someone out there that they
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: just haven't got to yet because there's four teams still
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: left in and there's something they want to pluck, somebody
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: they want to pluck from one of those four teams,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: and all everything else is just a charade right now.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: They're just gathering information, but the guy they really want
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: exists on a team that's still in the playoffs.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: I hope you're right.
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the optimistic line.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I hope that that's the case. I just I am.
• 27:59
  Speaker 9: My fear is that the guys like Zach Robinson, who's
• 28:02
  Speaker 9: probably the one of the hottest offensive coordinator names on
• 28:05
  Speaker 9: the market right now, is probably looking at the Patriots
• 28:08
  Speaker 9: job and saying no thanks, because there's just better jobs.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: There's just better jobs.
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: I mean, just look at Walter and I mean he's
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: he's going to a team.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: That has the first overall.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: We have Patriot Place, you got Tavolino, you got skip Jack's, Davio's,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: you got all those restaurants up.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Top five guys, yea top calls toop golf down the road.
• 28:26
  Speaker 10: What's wrong with that?
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I was also getting some some recent feedback that you
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: and I haven't been arguing enough lately there. So we
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: gave we gave you what. By the way, we were
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: told to do that. Bill Belichi called us instead, Hill said,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I want want more turmoil. Yeah, we were told to
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: do that. No, but I think that like sort of
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: and I know that you're being tongue in cheek a
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: little bit. Like I don't hold it against Zach Robinson
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: if he feels the way Evan just said, like I
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: have a choice between, you know, just saying, for argument's sake,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: going with Jim Harbaugh and being the Chargers offensive coordinator
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: or going to the Patriots. I don't hold it against
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: the guy who says, right, I think I can work
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: with Justin Herbert. Yeah. Right, that's my point to me,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: that's not a sign of weakness.
• 29:14
  Speaker 9: It's just better jobs. Like there's just better jobs. And
• 29:18
  Speaker 9: I know one it's Fred's pitch, right, it's let's say
• 29:21
  Speaker 9: that Zach Robinson just to use him as the example,
• 29:24
  Speaker 9: Zach Robinson has an affinity for Jayden Daniels, Like he's
• 29:27
  Speaker 9: just he's getting ready for the draft, and he looks
• 29:29
  Speaker 9: at Jayden Daniels and he's like, that's that guy's going
• 29:31
  Speaker 9: to be a star. That's what you have to hope for.
• 29:33
  Speaker 9: That's what you have to hope for. And I think
• 29:35
  Speaker 9: that in Chicago, either Shane Waldron is sold on Justin
• 29:38
  Speaker 9: Fields or so on Caleb Williams. I will find out
• 29:41
  Speaker 9: in three months which one it is, but one of
• 29:43
  Speaker 9: those two guys is he's He's like, I can do.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: It with this guy. Yeah.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: I wonder, like, you know, it's complicated, but I wonder
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: like if either Matt Growe or Elliott Wolf already know
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: the quarterback they're gonna take at three, and you bring
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: in the prospective OC and you say, you know, who
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: do you like? And he doesn't like who you know
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: you're gonna pick, and it's like.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: You're across him off the list. Yeah, I don't know.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know that that's plausible that they talk about.
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: That they already know that kind of stuff, though at
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: this point, I don't know.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: I just a quarterback, just a specific quarterback, I do.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: I would hope so, not whether or not they're taking
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: him at three. But I think that Fred's right. I
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: think out of the quarterback class, they have to know
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: which one they like the best.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I guess the combine combine is important.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: I think I think Drake May is going to play
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: in the Senior Bowl.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: He's not. And Pens and boat. Yeah, so what are
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: you waiting for?
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: You know, I think you've got you know, I guess
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: there might be some medicals that you want to talk
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: about with the guy.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, you got in the one on one interview.
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: In hand size, hand size risk, big receivers.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: That's why I didn't make it.
• 30:55
  Speaker 9: You can't have small gloves, ask Rob Perty you know,
• 30:59
  Speaker 9: small hands, Yeah, can't play in the rain.
• 31:00
  Speaker 10: I would have been the darling of the combine.
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: Really, Alex gripping the basketball.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Almost Wow, I could palm a basketball. You know what
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: they say about you know, you know what they say
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: about I could?
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: You know what they say about women with big hands,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: big big feet?
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what they said.
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: Big something that could get you in trouble.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: All right, moving on to break up the hand talk.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: A five five pats five hundred A taken outline web
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: radio at pages dot com. It's an email address. We'll
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: do picks later.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so you kind of have to hurry, even
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: though there's only two games. Fred's very excited to do
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: the picks. If you noticed, Alex pretended she was in
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: a traffic jam today. I did not pretend to avoids.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: I sat with my car off on the mass Turnpike
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: today for.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: A full hour.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: Dude said, hey, if you gotta if you got to
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: pull you, we do what you gotta do. But then
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Paul tweeted at me and I said, I'm gonna push.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Through the It was a big accident, so jack knipe
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: on the Santa Anna tractor.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: Trailer truck jack knife carrying lumber, so it was just
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: two by fours. They shut down the whole pike today
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: and I was like ten minutes into my commute.
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: Tour and you know the pike because there's like ten
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: miles between some of those exits. So yeah, yeah, you
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: got nowhere to go.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: I told you someone was expecting a delivery to build
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: their house today and they're going to be significantly.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: To fifty degree weather. Perfect.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's thanks, all right, Thanks, everyone's okay.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Thanks for toughing it out, Alex. We appreciate that. Thanks
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: for allowing me to shame. You should we go to
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: the calls, start getting the listeners and mix it up
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: a little bit like, oh, we didn't even get to
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: the news. What's the news? What is signed Michael Jordan? Oh? Yeah, yeah,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: you did?
• 32:57
  Speaker 9: You know that people made you know, there was some
• 32:58
  Speaker 9: memes that were going around about this. How many memes
• 33:01
  Speaker 9: are we and.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know going on because I know we created one.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: And I got emails that why isn't billing that meme.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Right? Phil Jackson would have quote? So why wasn't it
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: just right? Phil Jackson would have been there?
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: All the comments were like, Wow, the new social team's
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: popping off.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, yeah, so I'm making fun of you. Anyone
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: that yeah is you know on us, I'm making funny
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: all right, So let's start with Josh and Dallas.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Hey, Josh, Hey, everyone.
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: I don't want to be nitpicky, but on Tuesday, when
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: you were referring to the Girardo quote, you you guys
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: were just talking about how he said that they were
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: going to draft at the most important position, but the
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: actual quote was that they're going to draft the best
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: player for a position that's very important. And I feel
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: like that still leans quarterback. But to me, it could
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: also just be like a tongue in cheek way of saying,
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: they are obvious quarterback, receiver, and tackle, and so whoever
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: the best player at one of those important positions is there,
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: that's who we're going to take.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: You're right, you're right, You're right about what he said,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: But I would disagree about your characterization of those three
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: positions like wide receiver ascends anywhere near the like to.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: But like Josh said, he could have been doing a
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: tongue in sheep.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Oh I totally think he did. Yeah, because I totally
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: I totally agree with Josh. Yeah, yeah, prepared to like
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: maybe guard or no, you know right, I think so.
• 34:29
  Speaker 9: They're not going to draft a guard from Chattanooga again
• 34:32
  Speaker 9: in the first round.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Is that what you're telling them?
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: That's that's not hopefully not.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so he did.
• 34:37
  Speaker 9: He has mentioned quarterback, receiver, tackle a couple times in
• 34:41
  Speaker 9: some of these interviews. So whether he feels that way,
• 34:45
  Speaker 9: the front office feels someone's feeling that way in the organization,
• 34:49
  Speaker 9: that's you know, on girod Mayo's side that uh, those
• 34:52
  Speaker 9: are the three biggest needs, which I don't think anybody.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: Would argue with So look at the death chart, it's obvious.
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, you know not the tight end is
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: the third overall need.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: But that's a that's I would say tight end is
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: every bit as big of a need, except for you
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: don't take a tight end. Thanks for the call, Josh.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Unless he's a you know, generational talent like Kyle Pitts. No, no,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: that's what he was. There was there just not that important, right,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: there's a better one in the rocks. Yeah, cop Pits.
• 35:20
  Speaker 9: Copits is a really good, we're really good receiver prospect.
• 35:23
  Speaker 9: But he was always like a jumbo receiver. You know,
• 35:25
  Speaker 9: he wasn't like a hand in the dirt block.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: And I know we got hurt. I got yelled at
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: for making fun of him yesterday.
• 35:29
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well you like you'd like to give you some
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: Kyle Pitts that I wonder, what's one of your favorites.
• 35:35
  Speaker 9: Cop Pits is one of those players that, like, if
• 35:37
  Speaker 9: he gets with the right in the right system, with
• 35:39
  Speaker 9: the right coordinator and all.
• 35:40
  Speaker 12: Like.
• 35:40
  Speaker 9: I think that his issues are not talent. I think
• 35:42
  Speaker 9: his issues were that Arthur Smith was not using him.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I would agree with that, even though it was critical yesterday.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: How about I've had him on my fantasy team.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: There he is Eldred in North Carolina. What's up, Eldred?
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Hey? Another one? Every time she had any time he
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: calls him, he talks to the women because you know,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: everybody says, he says the rest.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Of us that you're saying, lady sounds weird, Alex, I
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: appreciate it.
• 36:13
  Speaker 13: Addressed the lady in the room first in the fellows
• 36:15
  Speaker 13: a gentleman, I wouldn't.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't know about class gentleman right there? What's up, biggie?
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah we're here?
• 36:25
  Speaker 13: Okay, okay, yet the car up?
• 36:27
  Speaker 14: Okay?
• 36:28
  Speaker 13: But my question about to office for it? I feel
• 36:31
  Speaker 13: like y'all do him kind of hantsy. But it could
• 36:33
  Speaker 13: also be that he's a rookie coach to and a
• 36:36
  Speaker 13: lot maybe some people don't want to becides to cover.
• 36:38
  Speaker 13: Uh you know, it's bear here, you know, so you
• 36:42
  Speaker 13: think that might be at all I could be.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: But I think that's an advantage because I think the
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: o C is going to have more autonomy because he's
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: a rookie coach. The rookie coach is going to have
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: to lean or should be leaning on his coordinators.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 36:55
  Speaker 9: And I think that's part of the appeal. If there's
• 36:58
  Speaker 9: any appeal for Josh, it's the experience factor. Yeah right,
• 37:01
  Speaker 9: Like he's coordinated an offense before, he's head coached teams before,
• 37:05
  Speaker 9: so he knows, you know, how to do that those
• 37:08
  Speaker 9: types of things. I think, you know, Kellen Moore is
• 37:09
  Speaker 9: now starting the Eagles, the Browns, other teams are starting
• 37:12
  Speaker 9: to interview Kellen Moore. Now that Harbaugh's and the charge
• 37:15
  Speaker 9: of another guy that's coordinated in offense before, that's called
• 37:18
  Speaker 9: plays before, we're not doing all new everywhere. And I
• 37:21
  Speaker 9: think that that is a factor.
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: Plus Josh can fix.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Mac Marvin says that ESPN just said that the Panthers
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: hire Buccaneers Dave Canally's that's correct.
• 37:29
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Oh he's got the head coaching jobs with Carolina.
• 37:32
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, as they said in Rocky, I wish him well, Yes, sir.
• 37:40
  Speaker 13: From the guys, from from the people up here in
• 37:42
  Speaker 13: Panthers Stadium and my friends up in North Carolina. They
• 37:45
  Speaker 13: also taheel. They say, if you draft Drake May, it's
• 37:49
  Speaker 13: gonna be started at you have ade. Oh but he's
• 37:52
  Speaker 13: they've been watching him and like I said, we watch him.
• 37:55
  Speaker 13: You watch a cup of filmstrip.
• 37:57
  Speaker 17: We watch him here and like I said, death will okay, alright, alright, Eldred, alright,
• 38:06
  Speaker 17: we'll see Eldred down on Drake.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: May you have film strips of the guys like remember
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: but here he is no way you had.
• 38:14
  Speaker 15: Films and school.
• 38:17
  Speaker 9: Projectors. Maybe, But I did tell you about my my
• 38:20
  Speaker 9: storage problem on my computer, that I have so many
• 38:24
  Speaker 9: clips of film that like I am, I need an
• 38:28
  Speaker 9: external hard.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Drink the cloud. That's what you need, a storage, cloud storage,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: you need to clean out some of that cloud. To
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: him in his parm.
• 38:40
  Speaker 9: You mean Joe pancaking people, right, that's what you mean.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: To each his own whatever, whatever, Just just just get
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: in here, Joe. Did you did you see this? Watch
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: the hand placement? God, they're right all right, he's done
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: with Joe takes a shower kick post.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: He probably doesn't want just to see how.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Kicks the Kickstu.
• 39:02
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I know when I watched Joel, I did take
• 39:04
  Speaker 9: a shower after.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Inst uh.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Nick is an Australia. Hey, niek, Hey, guys, really upset
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Cocoa glos this morning.
• 39:19
  Speaker 14: Quickly that Evan, I really appreciate your film studying and breakdown.
• 39:25
  Speaker 14: You've really made it easy for someone like me to
• 39:27
  Speaker 14: understand a little bit more. I think the job you
• 39:29
  Speaker 14: do is is phenomenal, so great, higher by Fred, but
• 39:34
  Speaker 14: yes we do get Josh McDaniels, which hopefully we don't.
• 39:38
  Speaker 14: Which quarterbacks skiing the best out of the three? Is
• 39:41
  Speaker 14: it one in particular, all three.
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: Of them, McDaniels, it's McDaniels.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is the reason why by bringing back,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: this is the reason why.
• 39:49
  Speaker 9: I've been talking myself into Drake may Is, because I
• 39:51
  Speaker 9: think if you're if you're gonna go with the more
• 39:54
  Speaker 9: of that like traditional, like we need somebody that's going
• 39:57
  Speaker 9: to be in structure that that's a that's him. You
• 40:01
  Speaker 9: know that Drake may Is is, in my opinion, the
• 40:03
  Speaker 9: best instructure quarterback in this class, like mac Jones was yeah,
• 40:07
  Speaker 9: but with bigger, taller, better arm strengths, you know, like
• 40:11
  Speaker 9: a guy that more toolsy mac Jones.
• 40:15
  Speaker 11: And if that's good, does these systems still is it
• 40:19
  Speaker 11: be outdated Josh McDaniels system or is it still something
• 40:23
  Speaker 11: that holds up because I don't know, I didn't watch
• 40:25
  Speaker 11: a lot of UH Raiders games, but I don't know
• 40:28
  Speaker 11: if the offense is down this year, but it was.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Down until the new guy came then they started playing.
• 40:36
  Speaker 9: I think that, you know, there's a good deeper conversation
• 40:39
  Speaker 9: about like the difference between like system and scheme, right,
• 40:43
  Speaker 9: Like scheme is like your play designs. And I think
• 40:45
  Speaker 9: that what the Patriots used to do offensively schematically is
• 40:49
  Speaker 9: still sound. It can still work in the NFL. My
• 40:52
  Speaker 9: concerns are more about the system side of things, of
• 40:54
  Speaker 9: how they're getting in and out of plays, the control
• 40:57
  Speaker 9: out the line of scrimmage, on the quarterback, the adjustments
• 41:00
  Speaker 9: on the routes. I think there's a lot of information
• 41:03
  Speaker 9: that gets thrown at players in this offense, and I
• 41:05
  Speaker 9: think it can be difficult for players that are coming
• 41:09
  Speaker 9: from these college systems, especially that are nowhere near as complex,
• 41:13
  Speaker 9: and now they're getting put into these NFL systems like
• 41:15
  Speaker 9: the McDaniels offense, and then all of a sudden, quarterback especially,
• 41:19
  Speaker 9: there's just so much on your plate, and I feel
• 41:22
  Speaker 9: like some for some of those guys, that's that's a
• 41:24
  Speaker 9: difficult adjustment to make.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Thanks Dake, appreciate the call. L from Wisconsin writes, and
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: when talking about having a head coach of the offense,
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Evan said that Josh McDaniels might be someone they're looking
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: at because he quote would have a staff and knows
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: how to be a head coach, so we could run
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: that side of the ball. I would just argue that
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Josh in fact, does not know how to be a
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: head coach.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Well, but he's not the actual head, right, he's just
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: just the offense he knows.
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: But I just, I mean, I think most of us
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: are on the same page of like just running it
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: back with that same old offense.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: And you know, concern me and in fairness, I know,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: like the Raiders stuff, like they didn't have any offense.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: With or without the Raiders' lack of offense. It's not
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: like they started lighting it up with Aidan O'Connell down
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: the stretch. They won some games, but it wasn't because
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: they were suddenly putting, you know, forty points on the
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: board every game. You know, they won some low scoring
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: games too. And I don't think it was all mcdaniels's fault.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Their defense order food. I told you I was right there.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't got up and when got himself something,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna pass out. Yeah you want to do something,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: we can do that, all right.
• 42:38
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  Speaker 7: As I think back over the past few seasons, I
• 42:56
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  Speaker 18: And we are back with another edition of the Time Show,
• 44:01
  Speaker 18: as always joined by Faith Borrel and we are going
• 44:04
  Speaker 18: to start so with some trivia like we always do,
• 44:06
  Speaker 18: of course. So question one. In a win over Buffalo
• 44:10
  Speaker 18: the Buffalo Bills in twenty twelve, which Patriots wide receiver
• 44:14
  Speaker 18: caught a touchdown pass where there is an iconic photo
• 44:17
  Speaker 18: of him smiling while making the catch.
• 44:19
  Speaker 10: Smiling?
• 44:20
  Speaker 18: I believe it was a touchdown? Do you know that
• 44:21
  Speaker 18: one that was twelve? You've definitely seen the picture. That's
• 44:24
  Speaker 18: a different story, all right. These two questions are faith questions,
• 44:28
  Speaker 18: so I hope they're correct. In a twenty ten game
• 44:31
  Speaker 18: against the Dolphins, the Patriots had a new league record
• 44:33
  Speaker 18: by coming by becoming the first team to accomplish which
• 44:37
  Speaker 18: feet All right, Wow, that's a that's a good one.
• 44:40
  Speaker 18: That's a hard one and number Patriot website. Okay, there
• 44:44
  Speaker 18: you go. And question three, Julian Edelman became the second
• 44:48
  Speaker 18: Patriots wide receiver to win a Super Bowl MVP honors
• 44:50
  Speaker 18: in Super Bowl fifty three. How many receiving yards did
• 44:53
  Speaker 18: Edelman have in the Super Bowl? All Right? What A
• 44:56
  Speaker 18: asked that before? Well, that might have that's a deep
• 44:59
  Speaker 18: cut appear.
• 44:59
  Speaker 10: You have to see if anyone remembers.
• 45:02
  Speaker 18: All right, So we're gonna run it back like we
• 45:03
  Speaker 18: did the other day. We're gonna do some start bench
• 45:06
  Speaker 18: cuts and so first faith, start bench cut, Arrowhead Stadium,
• 45:11
  Speaker 18: MB ANDT Bank Stadium in ford Field.
• 45:15
  Speaker 10: So I'm gonna approach this question like playoff scenario. Okay,
• 45:19
  Speaker 10: they're hosting a playoff game. What atmosphere you want to
• 45:22
  Speaker 10: be in?
• 45:22
  Speaker 8: First of all, I think all three of these stadiums
• 45:24
  Speaker 8: do they do home field advantage right?
• 45:27
  Speaker 17: Like?
• 45:27
  Speaker 10: They make it hard for opposing teams.
• 45:32
  Speaker 8: I feel like I like, in terms of this season,
• 45:35
  Speaker 8: I feel like I should start ford Field simply because
• 45:38
  Speaker 8: of how much has like gone into this all right,
• 45:41
  Speaker 8: Like if you're talking about like this season, I just
• 45:44
  Speaker 8: feel like there's so much passion and excitement around it.
• 45:46
  Speaker 8: Like I'm bought in on the Lions story. So I'm
• 45:49
  Speaker 8: gonna start ford Field, which is I think in other
• 45:53
  Speaker 8: years probably not would have been the case, but we're
• 45:55
  Speaker 8: gonna start ford Field. Arrowhead is like I've been told
• 46:00
  Speaker 8: I've never been to Arrowhead. I've been told it's like
• 46:03
  Speaker 8: should be the top of everyone's bucket list. But also
• 46:06
  Speaker 8: MB and T Bank Stadium. They've got like the marching band,
• 46:09
  Speaker 8: Like it's like a college football environment. So I'm gonna
• 46:14
  Speaker 8: have probably a hot take and put the Raven Stadium
• 46:17
  Speaker 8: as my bench, and then I'm gonna cut Arrowhead.
• 46:19
  Speaker 18: Okay, interesting, So I like what you did with ford Field. Yeah,
• 46:23
  Speaker 18: but you can't start him because everybody in that stadium
• 46:27
  Speaker 18: has never been has the playoff game more or less,
• 46:29
  Speaker 18: that's true. So I'm going I'm actually going in the
• 46:31
  Speaker 18: order is Arrowhead, the Raven Stadium and in ford Field,
• 46:35
  Speaker 18: And honestly, Ford ford Field just reminds me of the
• 46:38
  Speaker 18: lines losing on Thanksgiving. That's all I could think of that.
• 46:40
  Speaker 18: So maybe they'll become a juggernaut for a couple of years,
• 46:42
  Speaker 18: but that's fair. That's how I'm gonna do it, all right.
• 46:45
  Speaker 18: Number two Ceedee Lamb A. J. Brown.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill.
• 46:52
  Speaker 8: I feel like you'd be a little crazy to not
• 46:55
  Speaker 8: start Tyreek Hill in this situation just because of how
• 46:58
  Speaker 8: versatile he is.
• 46:59
  Speaker 18: I think he's one of the most dangerous players in
• 47:01
  Speaker 18: the league.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: YEP.
• 47:04
  Speaker 8: I think CD is unfortunately a product of his environment
• 47:07
  Speaker 8: to some extent, like you can only hit such a
• 47:09
  Speaker 8: ceiling because the rest of the team can't seem to
• 47:11
  Speaker 8: get further. Like he's an outstanding player, but I think
• 47:14
  Speaker 8: he's one of those like stars that's kind of stuck
• 47:16
  Speaker 8: in the Cowboys curse.
• 47:18
  Speaker 10: So I'm gonna go benching AJ Brown.
• 47:21
  Speaker 18: I'm gonna do the same thing AJ Brown did it
• 47:23
  Speaker 18: in the Super Bowl. Yeah, should have been Patriot. That's
• 47:26
  Speaker 18: a different story. Well, all right, we're gonna we're gonna
• 47:28
  Speaker 18: leave football, all right, crazy, all right, FaceTime, phone call
• 47:33
  Speaker 18: or text.
• 47:34
  Speaker 10: I'm such a fan of FaceTime, all right.
• 47:37
  Speaker 8: I even if it's just like like my best friend
• 47:39
  Speaker 8: from a home she'll FaceTime me in the morning and
• 47:41
  Speaker 8: we'll just be like getting ready together talking about our
• 47:43
  Speaker 8: day FaceTime. But then I'm gonna go text and I'm
• 47:47
  Speaker 8: gonna bench phone calls.
• 47:48
  Speaker 10: Reason. Phone calls are like stressful to me.
• 47:50
  Speaker 18: I can never do sales because I don't even like
• 47:52
  Speaker 18: talking to my friends. Now it's awful. I get my desk,
• 47:55
  Speaker 18: phone goes off and I don't even like, don't touch that.
• 47:58
  Speaker 18: I'm a big person. If somebody calls me and I like,
• 48:01
  Speaker 18: I send it to voicemail and then.
• 48:02
  Speaker 10: I'll text them yes, and the idea flag for me.
• 48:04
  Speaker 18: But it is what it is, all right, Marvel, Star Wars,
• 48:09
  Speaker 18: Harry Potter a good one, and recent bias.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:13
  Speaker 8: True, I'm such a Marvel fan, so I have to
• 48:16
  Speaker 8: start Marvel. I actually, as of recently, watched all of
• 48:19
  Speaker 8: the Harry Potter movies. I had only seen like basically
• 48:23
  Speaker 8: like those moments you would see like on TikTok or
• 48:25
  Speaker 8: Instagram like from Harry Potter movies. I really hadn't watched
• 48:28
  Speaker 8: them so recentcy bias and the fact that I really
• 48:31
  Speaker 8: enjoyed them. I'm gonna bench Harry Potter and I am
• 48:33
  Speaker 8: gonna cut Star Wars because I haven't made it through.
• 48:36
  Speaker 18: That's that's faith. That's tough. I'm starting Star Wars. I'm
• 48:39
  Speaker 18: a bench in Marvel and cutting Harry Potter. But Marvel
• 48:42
  Speaker 18: is on my my list right now because it's been awful. Oh,
• 48:46
  Speaker 18: I have not been watching so and I know Matt's
• 48:49
  Speaker 18: gonna hate that for me, But he's gonna hate me
• 48:52
  Speaker 18: for cut Wars, that's true. But and then we'll finish
• 48:56
  Speaker 18: off with this one. It's it's it's supposed to be winter.
• 49:00
  Speaker 18: It's even though it's fifty five degrees today skiing, snowboarding,
• 49:05
  Speaker 18: ice skating.
• 49:06
  Speaker 8: So I have never skied or snowboarded, but I put
• 49:11
  Speaker 8: this question in here for you because I knew you
• 49:12
  Speaker 8: would have opinion. But I think let's just gonna We're
• 49:17
  Speaker 8: gonna go on the premise that if I was to
• 49:18
  Speaker 8: try those other two activities i've ice skated before, I
• 49:22
  Speaker 8: think I would start skiing. I'd probably bench ice skating
• 49:27
  Speaker 8: and probably cut snowboarding only because I'm really bad at
• 49:30
  Speaker 8: like wakeboarding, and I'm assuming to some extent maybe those
• 49:34
  Speaker 8: skills are just not going to translate.
• 49:35
  Speaker 18: So all right, I'm starting snowboarding obviously benching ice skating,
• 49:42
  Speaker 18: and I'm cutting skiing.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: I don't like skating.
• 49:44
  Speaker 18: I'll think they're better than you, and I might get
• 49:47
  Speaker 18: crucified for this. You look like a herb if you're skiing.
• 49:50
  Speaker 18: There's like very it's very hard to look cool while skating. Fair,
• 49:54
  Speaker 18: And I'll leave my DMS off so I don't get
• 49:57
  Speaker 18: attacked by that turning off social media exactly. All right,
• 50:01
  Speaker 18: that was a fun one, Faith, Thanks for these these
• 50:03
  Speaker 18: start bench cuts, and let's get back to the half
• 50:07
  Speaker 18: times the regular.
• 50:11
  Speaker 19: When someone accidentally threw the school play costumes. Oh, no
• 50:16
  Speaker 19: replacements were shipped with FedEx, and with picture proof of delivery,
• 50:19
  Speaker 19: everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx. Where
• 50:23
  Speaker 19: now it's next for residential delivery.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Only and now great moments in history. I'm really embarrassed
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: about this. It's an embarrassing moment, very embarrassing. So I'm
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: that's a funny story.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: I'm at the party with my wife and this is
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: before everybody got their ring, so it's still early.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: People are still arriving, and I'm.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: Standing kind of in a middle area where you know,
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: as people go by, and tought Jonathan Kraft and people
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: we work with, and Tom comes in with Giselle.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: That would be Tom Brady, Tom Brady. Okay, well with Giselle.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: Kind is the giveaway. But anyway, so I said, hey, Tom,
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: how you doing? And I stuck my hand out for
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: a handshake, and.
• 51:06
  Speaker 10: He came in for the hug.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: He came in hot, hot, wow, so hot that I
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: kissed him on the chief.
• 51:15
  Speaker 9: Wow.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: So he went in for the hug and Fred did
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: the Cassandra inappropriate a moment.
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: I did it.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, what did I just do?
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: Did he react to it?
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: He's so tall, I don't know that's another great moment from.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: All right back here on Patriot's Unfiltered eight five five
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: Pats five hundred.
• 51:37
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• 51:39
  Speaker 2: But also the divisional championships are here, so it's time
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• 52:27
  Speaker 9: Oh yeah, yeah, gotta get that delivered. Yeah they do,
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  Speaker 9: good job.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: All right, h eight five five Pass five hundred is
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: the ACE ticket outline. We did have trivia Paul oh next,
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: don't look, I don't look. We had trivia at halftime
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: in a win over the Buffalo Bills in twenty twelve,
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: which Patriots wide receiver caught a touchdown pass where there
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: is an iconic photo of him smiling making the catch.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: And I remember that photo, well, Brandon Lloyd.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: That's correct, Brandon Lloyd. The winner is Adrian Lopez.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Congratulations. I believe that was a picture that we nominated
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: for the NFL's Best Pitchers of the Year. And now
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: my food comes.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: In a twenty ten game against the Dolphins, enough, the
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: Patriots set a new league record by becoming the first
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: team to accomplish which feet twenty ten game against the Dolphins.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: They returned a blocked field goal for a touchdown, a
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: block punt for a touchdown, you're for a touchdown.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: The same game, they scored five different ways.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Let's see.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: They scored a rushing touchdown ben Jarvis green Ellis, a
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: receiving touchdown, Danny Woodhead, a kickoff return for a touchdown
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Brandon Tate, a block field goal returned for a touchdown
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Kyle Arrington, and an interception return.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: For a touchdown. Who did that?
• 53:48
  Speaker 8: No?
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Patrick Chung Patrick Chung is correct, Paul no winner. Nobody
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: got that one. Tough.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: And finally, Julian Edelman became the second Patriots receiver to
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl MVP honors and Super Bowl fifty three.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: How many receiving yards did Edelman have.
• 54:04
  Speaker 6: In that game?
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: One and thirty seven? Close?
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: But no cigar, No, I knew it was Okawayan got
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: that one, So congratulations there.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: I would have been eliminated in that because I would
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: have answered Dan Branch, yeah right, based on the way
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: the question started, he was the second wide receiver to
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: win Super Bowl MVP. I thought who was the first
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: was going to be the question, so I would have
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: been out.
• 54:35
  Speaker 9: Who do you think I had a better Super Bowl?
• 54:37
  Speaker 9: Deon Branch.
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: Comparable?
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say Edelman because it came harder. No, I
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: mean it was a tougher game. Like what he did
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: came he had.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: To work harder for it. I just please don't do
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: that time.
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: I always felt like some of those catches that Dion
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: Branch made, I don't know how he held on to them,
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: like he was just yeah, oh sure handed and absorbing contact.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: I could make an argument either way. I just feel
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: like there was more offense in the and I thought
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: Branch could have won the m v P in Carolina
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: one as well. I think they got it right. I
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: think I would have gone Brady too, because you know me,
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: I have a biased you know, for the for the quarterback.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: But that's a that's a good question. I think Branch
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: was more more impressive, but definitely make an argument either way.
• 55:30
  Speaker 9: I think the catches were tougher, but Julian Edelman was
• 55:33
  Speaker 9: uncoverable and like the routes that he was running, just
• 55:36
  Speaker 9: the separation and.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: You could give him more points for really being the
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: entirety of the offense until until the fourth quarter when
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Gronk took over. Yeah.
• 55:46
  Speaker 9: I remember when they were celebrating and Matthew Slater came
• 55:49
  Speaker 9: up to him and was like, did you win m
• 55:51
  Speaker 9: v P? And he was like yeah, and like Matthew's
• 55:53
  Speaker 9: like everybody kind of knew that. He was like, you know,
• 55:58
  Speaker 9: you're kind you were kind of air offense today, so
• 56:01
  Speaker 9: I imagine you probably want to be.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: The Slater was upset because he didn't have any like
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: proper name to call Julian, like Julian's name Julian, you
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: know how he just refused to anybody by the name
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: they go by.
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: Maybe he added his middle name or something.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: It was like with the J. C. Jackson, you called
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: Gerald this year.
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: I think called Hoyer Axel.
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, got for everybody. Hey, did you see the Gronk
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: stole your joke?
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: My joke?
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they did it the social media thing. It was
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: we're professional athletes, and one of Gronk's was, we're a
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: professional athlete for what is it retired? We're former professional athletes.
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: Of course we're going to make a joke about c
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: c TE when we can't remember something. I was like, Hey,
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: that's that's Ball's joke.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: That is true.
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: They were good. They're funny.
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: That was funny. Part two. They could put some clothes
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: on like their their thirst trap in hardcore to maintain
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: some relevancy.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: But all right, obviously worked on you. I was thinking,
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: the phone lines are lit up like a Christmas So
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: let's get to that. We'll start with Nathan in Ohio.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: What's up, Nathan?
• 57:07
  Speaker 20: Hey, how's it going?
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: Guys?
• 57:10
  Speaker 20: I just want to say thank you to Evan because
• 57:12
  Speaker 20: he's the one who got me into a podcast listening
• 57:15
  Speaker 20: in the first place, along with Alex bart On, Patriots beat,
• 57:18
  Speaker 20: so I would have never discovered you guys without him.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you a lot of compliments today I'm flattered.
• 57:24
  Speaker 20: And for my question, I want to say, would you
• 57:27
  Speaker 20: guys entertain the Patriots doing something like taking a quarterback
• 57:30
  Speaker 20: at three and then moving up like the Texas into
• 57:33
  Speaker 20: like five or six, giving up future capital to get
• 57:36
  Speaker 20: a tackle. That way, you get two positions solidified for
• 57:39
  Speaker 20: the future.
• 57:40
  Speaker 9: Well, so the Texans had the twelfth overall pick in
• 57:43
  Speaker 9: the draft from a previous trade. So when these things
• 57:47
  Speaker 9: have like get thrown out there, we have to remember
• 57:49
  Speaker 9: the Texas did in trade up from thirty four to five.
• 57:53
  Speaker 9: They traded up from twelve to five, so it's it's
• 57:56
  Speaker 9: a much different different situation.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: All right, Does that answer your question? Yeah?
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: All right, thanks Nathan. I mean I just say generally,
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: and I think this will be like a topic we
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: talk about it, like like pushing all the chips into
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: the middle of the table this year. It doesn't really
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: silly the year to do that, Like you need your picks,
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: you need to hit them, you need to you know,
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: not just like let's just get you guys and we'll
• 58:19
  Speaker 5: be back on track. Like I I think you need
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: all these draft picks and if anything, and.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: I am intrigued by that, you know, and I hate
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: trading down, but I think in a year like this
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: it might make some sense. But I think Evan did
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: a good job of sort of explaining. I think there's
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: this notion that if you trade down from three, that's
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: gonna let you take like three guys in the first round.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Like you know, you're gonna switch spots with whoever you
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: trade with and probably add like depending on how far
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: the team goes, you know, you'll probably add like a
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: future one or future too, you know, if you if
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: it's just a little move, you know you're going from
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: three to six, you're probably adding a second round pick
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: and maybe a future second round pick or something like that.
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, which is which sounds great to me.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm not telling you I wouldn't do it.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: But I think that people think, well, that way you
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: can get instead of getting Jade and Daniels, you can
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: get Marvin Harrison Junior and Joe Walt. Like, it's not
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: gonna work that way. You're not gonna get two top
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: ten picks out right, because I not to pick on
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: the collar, but now I'm not picking on the caller.
• 59:17
  Speaker 9: I think people for the Texans had the Browns pick
• 59:20
  Speaker 9: last year because of the Deshaun Watson trade, so they
• 59:23
  Speaker 9: had the twelfth, They had the second overall pick and
• 59:26
  Speaker 9: the twelfth overall pick, so they traded up from twelve,
• 59:30
  Speaker 9: which is a much different conversation than trading up from
• 59:33
  Speaker 9: thirty four. So, like Paul is saying, you can't do
• 59:35
  Speaker 9: You're not gonna get both of those, but.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: You can still make a good trade. I'm not telling
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: you like forget the trade down.
• 59:41
  Speaker 9: No, you could still make a good trade if you're
• 59:43
  Speaker 9: not sold on one of these quarterbacks. And it actually
• 59:45
  Speaker 9: makes sense to trade down.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: And I talked about this a little on Tuesday. Yeah,
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: the further you go down the quarterback tree, the less
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: the quarterback generally is. But there that's not necessarily the
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: case at tackle, and it's definitely not the case a
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: wide receiver. Now, you might have a special one in
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: Harrison this year, and I'll grant you that he might
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: be a little bit different, but there are a lot
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: of good wide receivers taken as you go down the list,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Like the third, fourth, fifth wide receiver is a lot
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: better than the third, fourth or fifth quarterback.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 9: Especially a lot better. Yeah, and this class is loaded.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 9: And we were talking about this on Catch twenty two.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 9: And you look really around the playoffs this year, and
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 9: this is one of those years where the diva bona
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 9: fide number one wide receiver really wasn't what carried teams.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 9: You look at teams like Detroit that those guys are
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 9: all Day two picks, the Porta Monroe, Saint Brown. You
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 9: look at the Niners like Brandon Ayuka is their highest
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 9: drafted pick in house and he was like late first round,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 9: not not a top ten type of guy. So there's
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 9: definitely a lot of evidence right now that you can
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 9: build it a different way without you know, being Joe
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 9: Burrow and Jamar Chase or Patrick Mahomes and Tyree Kill.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: The poster boy for oh, you can't draft a you know,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: receiver without having you know, the pieces around him is
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson. But the Jets thought they were going to
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: have Aaron Rodgers throwing to him.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: That's who I know Wilson.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: But if they had, if if Rogers had been the quarterback,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: that would have been a great pick when they picked him.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: You know, like what I'm saying is they picked him
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: with Zack Wilson. I understand that. But they thought Zack
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: Wilson was going to be good. It wasn't.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: Then they got Aaron Rodgers. We wouldn't be talking about
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson being a bad pick if Aaron.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think Garret Wilson was a bad pick. I'm
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: saying that's an example of you knocked it out of
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: the park and it doesn't help you win unless you
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: have a correct guy to throw to it.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not telling you no, don't take, but I'm saying,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: if you take Marvin Harrison now and you don't get
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: the quarterback till next year, all of a sudden, Marvin
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: Harrison becomes a good pick, you know, Yeah, And then
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: the argument against it is if you waste a year
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: of that, then you end up getting into the high
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: price category if he hit like I don't think you
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: could do any better with a pick as Garrett Wilson.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: I think he had two really really good years offensive
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: the year. So now if you're the Jets and you
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: get Rogers next year, and so now you have your quarterbacks, right,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: So now that's three years in he continues to be
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: really good. Now do you have one hundred and twenty
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: million to pay him? Well, because that's coming right, like
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: you're gonna pick up his fifty year option. That's only
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: gonna piss him off. You know how the receivers are.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: You know how those receivers are Mike, especially right you
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: watched him drop that bomb the other day. I didn't
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: know who was more excited. I told you you.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 9: That's a real thing, is trying to get his one
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 9: way ticket it down.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: But I do think that that that's like part of
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: the at that position, that's got to be part of
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: your thinking. Those guys are high priced, Yeah, they try
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: to clean it up. They measure themselves against other receivers
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: by the the check, the paycheck. That's what that's respect
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: for that position is how much you're paying me.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 9: I would also say, though, that there is an the
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 9: flip side of that is that it's cost control to draft, right,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 9: So I get you know, but if I have.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: A great if I have a great quarterback, I'm fine
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: with the cost control for the same reason. Like they
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: took Burrow and Higgins at the same time, Yeah, and
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: Chase no, But like the first the same draft was
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: Burrow one. Higgins was the first pick of the second round. Yeah,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: and then they took so I have these two guys
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: and then they double up by getting Jamar Chase. Yeah,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: like that that works, but now you've got to figure
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: out how to pay him. But at least you got
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: five years of production, right, not two? And Garret Wilson's case.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 9: And Garret Wilson's a great example, because that's always been
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 9: my thing is like, all right, so if you take
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 9: Marvin Harrison Junior this year and then let's just for
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 9: argument's sake, you got Schador in here next year, Chador
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 9: Chador is ready to like take the continue to the
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 9: promised land? What in two years? Three years after they
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 9: draft him. So now you're in your four of Marvin
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 9: Harrison junior and now you're hitting your window, which is
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 9: when Marvin Harrison Junior starts to get expensive.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: Right, And that's my point, yeah, Fred, And and like,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: I don't think that we'll look at it if they
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: took Marvin Harrison this year at three, I don't think
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: that we would look at and say, Wow, what a bust. No,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: I don't think that. I think he's good and I
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: think he would be a good player. The question I
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: would have is how much does he help you if
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: you don't have the The other part answered, Dylan's a Maine.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: What's up, Dylan? Hello?
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: Hello, Hello, Jerry, Hey, I'm here.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 21: So what's the deal with the International Player Pathway Program?
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: What do you mean? Like, how does it work?
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 21: Yeah, there's a player.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 22: From Wales that just declared for it, and he's a
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 22: he'd be a very good wide receiver.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 14: Okay, I think we should.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know how.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean I think they they go, they
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: go to the Combine and you know, any team that
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: takes that person from Wales, it's an exemption on their roster.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: Uh so that but they have to keep them on
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: the roster for I think two years. But yeah, he
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: won't count against the fifty three for whichever team takes.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: That's not true. No, he doesn't count against the ninety man.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: It doesn't count. Okay, it doesn't count against the ninety. Yeah.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 9: If he's on, like Yakob Johnson counted against the fifty
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 9: three man rocks.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: You keep them, then he counts. Yeah, but you get
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: an extra guy at training camp if if you go
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: through that.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: Pro and then once you I think you have to
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: keep them for two years, Is that right?
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think you don't think so? No, okay, I
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 9: I'm not sure about that detail. But it used to
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 9: I don't know if it's new now, because it used
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 9: to like almost get it. The player was like assigned
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 9: to you, right like it was like a group of.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: That's how I understood it, But I don't know that
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: it wasn't like.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 9: The player had free agency to go and sign anywhere.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 9: But I don't know if they've changed that rule.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 16: Keep an eye he's one of the one of the
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 16: better wingers for Wells rugby and he just declared the
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 16: other week, So okay, keep an eye out for it.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: But all right, all right, sounds good. Thanks. The Bruins
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: can sign them. They need, they need secondary scoring. They
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: always okay, although they have been doing pretty well with
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: secondary scoring. I feel like I feel like is okay.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: I don't really think anything of the rest of them,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: Like the Heinen is not going to have three pucks
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: to flect off his skates into.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 9: I'm more worried about their frontline guys.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: Honestly, yeah, like they Charlie Cole is the first talk
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: about hockey and your.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 9: First line center, Charlie Coyle, he's probably I love Charlie
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 9: at cal Will you.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: Get these people back on track. I need to take care,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: take care of Paul and Evan. They want to talk
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: about hockey and this is the Patriots.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 23: Oh okay, guys, even though I love hockey, you gotta off.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, Okay, I'm sorry, scolded.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 23: You know out the reality here what we're talking about. Hey, guys,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 23: I'm trying to get rid of the sambad owl on
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 23: my tree. He keeps hayd in my cow.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 21: It is cool.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: I want to shoot him. Oh, you can't shoot an
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: owl in trouble.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 20: He's obtaint in my butt.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 23: Anyway, That was the cold leadway. But Christus, oh, sir,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 23: have something to do with Mayo not wanting to make
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 23: decisions on the offensive side of the ball because he's
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 23: not used to doing it that way, and he doesn't
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 23: want to have to make the choice about keeping Mac.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 20: Because Max was so well.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: Spirit listen, if you want to, if you want to
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: take that burden of the Mac decision off your shoulders,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: hire an O C and let that person make the decision,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 9: Or hire a general manager, which we're alerted to apparently.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 9: I think that this is like a factor in the
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 9: fact that these OC candidates these who's making the personnel
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 9: decisions in this building right now? And do I trust
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 9: that guy that's.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 5: Doing who liked Michael Jordan's Who's like we got to
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 5: get Michael Jordan?
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: According to uh Girodd, he said he is.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: He's making the personnel decisions.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: He says he's in charge right all the like people.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: I think somebody asked some recently. It was in the EE,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: I like, with all these interviews and everything that's going on,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: who's making the decision?
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: He said, it's all me? I miss God, he said
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: something like that. Maybe, so I did not catch that somebody,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: but I didn't listen to the somebody can check me
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: on that. So it just then give me my Flowers.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 23: Is going to let the OC bring in his own people?
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: I would think so, because I think that's one of
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: the he's his wife Bill O'Brien didn't stay because he
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: wasn't allowed to.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: There's been some speculation on well, thanks Michelle. That's one
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: reason the speculation that I've seen on bringing in guys
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: is on defense that I that some of these guys
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: that they're interviewing for defensive coordinator might actually be more
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: position coach related. If Covington is the guy, there's one
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: guy that had some ties to Covington from college. Forget
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: which one dodges from the sounds sounds right, Yeah, the
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: linebackers coach from New Orleans. I think there's been some
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: speculation that that could be. Kind of like last year
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: when they had Adrian Kleman for ostensibly an offensive coordinator
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: spot and he wound up being I kind.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: Of felt that way about Kaylee's someone of the Klee
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 5: is he really ready to be an offensive coordinator with
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: the you know, the system he just came from with
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: with Sean McVay. I mean, it seems more like, let's
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: bring some familiarity. He's not probably ready yet, Like maybe
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: Zach Robbins is ready, but he maybe, you know, you
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 5: bring them as a package deal. Kind of.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 9: I think Christian Parker from the Broncos also is or
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 9: their secondary coach or dv's coach, and like I look
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 9: at that and he's like, all right, if you're gonna
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 9: lose Brian and Mike Pellegrino, because maybe they go with
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 9: Bill somewhere then now you have it. These are you
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 9: know him, Tim Lubica Hodges from the Saints. These guys
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 9: are all great candidates to be position coaches.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: On it, and I read Bert Breer earlier in the
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: week sort of speculated that that some of these might
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: be with a with an eye toward filling out the staff. Yeah,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: it makes sense defensively. I haven't heard any of that offensively,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: but Kaylee would be an example.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: Chad in Atlanta writes in what are the Chances that
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: they don't actually hire a GM, and Mayo ends up
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: being the pseudo GM, kind of like how Bill was.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: He wasn't pseudo, he was the GM. Anyway.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: Kraft did say in his solo press conference that he
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: didn't like the idea of having one person choose players
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: for someone else because he thought there may end up
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: being discoursed in finger pointing. However, he also said that
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: Bill had earned that role. So I'm kind of confused
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: at this point. Growing wealth smells too much like Patricia
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: in Judge.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: I don't like it. Well, I wouldn't say that.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 9: I just think that there's nobody in charge right now
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 9: that we know of that it has final say on
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 9: personnel and like, I just think that there's a confidence
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 9: level of if you're getting hired as an offensive coordinator
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 9: and you're going to a staff that you know, the Eagles,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 9: for example, like you're going to building with Howie Roseman
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 9: running personnel, that you can have a lot of confidence
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 9: in that Howie Roseman's going to draft good players and
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 9: that they're going to have good talent on the offensive
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 9: side of the ball.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: I just did.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 9: Patriots just don't have that right now in my opinion.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 9: And I think that that when you have a GM,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 9: it's like kind of having like one voice, right we
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 9: have one This is our message, this is what we're about,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 9: this is what we're trying to build here, and right
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 9: now it feels like is that Gerrod Like I guess
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 9: like that's just Girod trying to relay that message to
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 9: these people.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: DARPin in New York City says, great job as always,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: particularly this weird for us younger spoiled Patriots fans four
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: to thirteen year four and thirteen year I could always
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: depend on the PU to say it as it is.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: One comment and one question comment. When you talked about
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: how ownership might have a hand in Josh and Grod.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: Being exposed to more of Bill's work, he got me
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: thinking why Bill never actively did that with someone as
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: his successor, And then it occurred to me he did
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: do that with Matt Patricia. Patricia came back after his
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: Lions stint and basically did Ernie Adams's job, which I'm
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: sure holds great importance for Bill. He even reportedly handed
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: out and even negotiated contracts. Then Bill puts him in
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: charge of the offense taking it all. It seems pretty
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: clear Patricia was and is Bill's chosen successor. Not relevant anymore,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: but still interesting. It was that guy who was basically
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: a disaster most places he coached. I disagree. I don't
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: think Bill did that with the idea that he was
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: going to be a successor, because Bill knew that he
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: wasn't picking his successor.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: We've talked about it before. Whose decision was it?
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: The crafts right? So no, he just it was a
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: comfort level. I think he believed in Patricia. I think
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: he thought he was smart and he could do a
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: bunch of different things.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: Patricia was down bad after the Lions.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 10: To that stint.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, threats he's down. Yeah, I know.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: The question if Bill is left standing when the music stops.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: Should you consider hiring the people who reportedly left with him?
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: My instinct would be no, because I would question their
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: commitment to the Patriots. But I'm very interested to know
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: what the people reportedly left with him. Nobody left yet,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: they're all in limbo.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Now, I don't think that there's some of
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: some of those guys. I don't think we'll be back,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: but they're not going to be back no matter what,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: like Joe, Judge cam Accord. Yeah, like, I don't think
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: those guys are going to mean.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 9: I like it in terms of taking Bill's guys back,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 9: like I would take the Belichicks and Mike Pelagrino back,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 9: Like I think that's that's different though, Like you look
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 9: at guys like Judge that that's a true Bill loyalist,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 9: Like you can't you can't have him here.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 17: Uh and uh.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: In terms of Aldred saying hello to uh, as Tony
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: from Virginia says, in the military customs and courtesy, it
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: dictates you always address the women or woman in the
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: room or formation first.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: So there you go. Okay, damn right, what about equality?
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: I'm a chivalry chivalry? Yeah, Poor Jess you know, I'll
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: take this chivalry.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 5: I'm not watching joelt again tonight. I mean I'm not
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 5: doing that.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: I'm old school. I'll take that.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: Alex in Raleigh, North Carolina just want to say that
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: all the haters can suck a golf ball through a
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: garden hose. The one podcast was awesome and three will
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: also be even better. Being six years old for one,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: I don't remember where I was exactly for it, and
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: being eight for three of these podcasts are the best
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: way to explain it all again from a different perspective.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: Haters will always be there f them agreed.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: I'm with Paul and Evan. Give us the new coordinator
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: on offense, and do not retread and OC. Please we
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: need the update of this to this decade of offenses.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: Please don't say modern offense.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 9: I'll get them all triggered to.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: Weekend fighting with people on Twitter after this.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 5: So why do you guys just have to stay off
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 5: it Just it feels so up in the air on
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 5: the offensive side of the ball, and it's like even
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 5: when the defense it's like Steve Bryan Pellegrino, they can calm,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 5: they can go like you know, you think they'll be
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 5: all right. It seems like coming thing is going to stay.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 5: But I just I have no idea on the offensive
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 5: side of the ball. I mean, Troy Brown is going
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 5: to be down there coaching at the Senior Bowl?
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 18: Is he back?
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 5: And you know what if they hire Zach Robinson to
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 5: come in, Like, is Troy Brown going to teach the
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 5: receivers how to you know what them?
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: They are?
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 8: Like?
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of movie parts.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 9: Troy Brown at the Senior Bowl thing is kind of weird,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 9: isn't it? Like is he going to be down there
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 9: like representing the Patriots.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: Like I just.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: Down there representing himself?
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 8: You know me?
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: How far ahead does that stuff get planned?
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: Senior Bowl stuff? He's going to be the coaches like
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: after the season, I.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 5: Mean probably yeah, because so they know what teams are available.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 21: Ye.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: I'm not, by the way, against a retread off it's
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: a coordinator. I just don't want our retreads. I want
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: to change our offense and I don't want to much.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: You guys know that I have a great relationship with him.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: And if you told me that he has an extensive
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: background in that system, the Rams, you know, McVeigh or whatever.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know how. I don't know how he could.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: But if you told me that, I wouldn't be against
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: him running that offense. But I don't think he's running
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: that offense. There's other guys that are going to be
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: available that have coordinator experience that I wouldn't mind taking
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: a shot. Would you consider Nick Retread? Yeah? Pretty much. Yeah.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: Now, so he made a lateral move to go.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: To because he wasn't considered offensive coordinator. How does he
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: look tight pants?
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: Really good?
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, so he could do it. Yeah, Now I wouldn't
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: be plays. I wouldn't be opposed to him, only because
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: at least he has like that full season of immersion
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: in that.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 9: Because I heard Devin McCory Aready talking on one of
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 9: the million shows that Devin does nowadays, and he just
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 9: mentioned that he went out to LA for the playoff game,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 9: you know, could talk to those guys, and he talked
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 9: to Kelly for a while, and Kelly said that, you know,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 9: they do a lot of the same things fundamentally, like
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 9: they're coaching a lot of the same fundamentals with the RAMS,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 9: but they just deliver it differently. And I think he
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 9: really enjoyed like the different experience of coaching.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: Mike and Charlotte says, am I the only one who
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: thinks Grad is not ready for this job. I feel
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: like there was a two year succession plan in place
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: to get him ready and get Bill to retirement, but
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: when the season did not go as plan, Robert cave
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: to public pressure and replaced Bill with.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: A guy who's not ready.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: I just don't think handing the keys to a seven
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: billion dollar franchise to someone who's never even been a
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: coordinator is very good business.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 5: No, I mean, I think that's fair. I mean, I
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 5: think that's what we're all wondering, and it's it's coming
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 5: out now in these details of how he's putting the
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 5: staff together. And I think, you know, for me, I
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 5: was initially encouraged by some of the different people that
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 5: he's you know, interviewing it. So it shows that you know,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 5: they're they're expanding out a little bit and breaking this
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 5: kind of cycle of just the same kind of thing.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 5: But look, there's no question no one's gonna sit here
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 5: and he's totally ready. Like I don't know, but that's like,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 5: you know, part of what this is with Jira Mao
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 5: and clearly everything that the craft said about him, he's
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 5: earned this opportunity in their eyes and that's all the matters.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 5: So I don't know. I think when we were getting
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 5: into this like post bill stuff, it kind of feeled
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 5: to me like, no matter who it was, it's a
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 5: it's a few year guy and unless it's unless he's
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 5: really special, that that might be it. You know, like
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 5: you're gonna get on this cycle of what most teams
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 5: are and maybe Jiromeo's special, but you know, it's hard
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 5: to sit here and tell you yes, he definitely is.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 5: I don't know. That's what we're gonna have to watch.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 9: Yeah, Like I don't think he's ready for it, but
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 9: I don't think that it's because he's not capable of
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 9: doing it. I just in the I would just the
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 9: pushback that I keep having is like he has no
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 9: adults in the room with him. There's nobody in there
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 9: that has been a general manager, that's been aheat head
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 9: coach before. You know Antonio Pierce and with the Raiders,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 9: he has Tom Coughlin as like a senior advisor to
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 9: the head coach. That's like holding his hand through all
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 9: of these things that he's doing for the first time,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 9: Like who's doing that right now?
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: For jirod Mayo, And that's not on Girod Mayo. That's
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: that's on the organization.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 9: Like we have plenty of people that have come through
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 9: this building that can do that for him, Like there's
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 9: plenty of Scott Pioli's and Thomas de Mittrov's and all
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 9: these different people, Like call up one of these people
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 9: and have them come back and help him through this,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 9: because it's not fair to give a thirty seven year
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 9: old head coach. Now he's hiring coordinators, he's worried about
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 9: the draft, he's going down to the Senior Bowl next week,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 9: Like what are we doing?
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: I think it would help I don't know if those
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: guys would help so much. But you know, like because Coauughlin,
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: coach Pierce, like there's a connection there, you know, with
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: a former coach helping, you know, a former player. I
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: don't know if if a GM is not.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: The guy that was with the Falcons that work for
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: the league, oh, I forget his name.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: Like he'd be good. But even if it's like a head.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: He understands like the whole ins and outs of the
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: business side plus the football side.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 9: Even if it's a head coach, No, no type of
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 9: person like, even if it's not one of the GM
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 9: guys that have that have been around here, even if
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 9: it's a head coach, but I think a GM, it's
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 9: just John GM would help Mike Mike Lombardi, Like I'm
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 9: not a big fan of his either, but like these
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 9: types of people that have been around that have done
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 9: it before right now, Like I just feel like it's
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 9: all on a thirty seven year old first time head
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 9: coach to figure all this stuff.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: Out, all the things that Evan says, I think it
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: would be valuable. I just would rather be a coach
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: than a GM now. I would like both, you know,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: and the whole thing with with Grow and Wolf like
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: people like I I understand these guys, you know, I
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: think people like, why are we sticking with these guys?
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: They're gonna they're going to continue to evaluate the ts.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: You need someone to evaluate the talent. I don't think
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: they're going to make the pick. I think that it
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: certainly sounds from what Fred said that Girod's going to
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: make the pick. I don't. I definitely missed that. But
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: you know, this whole collaborative process is going to be
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: interesting to see how it works out. I don't think
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: collaborative works. I really don't. I think at the end
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: of the day, someone has to be the adult in
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: the room and make a pick. I think point, I'm
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: not sure there are enough adults around Gid Mayo collaborate.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: Collaboration works in gathering the information and sharing ideas and opinions,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: but at some point, somebody's going to make the final decision.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 24: Right.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: I agree for it.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 9: I just feel like the boss right now of this
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 9: football operations is a thirty seven year old who's never
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 9: been a head coach in the NFL before, who.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: Has never coordinated a defense on his own before. He's
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: a leader of men. It's a fantastic coach.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: But by the way, job with the story on Patriot
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: dot com right now.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: Evan, It's okay, what did I say? He said, Alex, Alex,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: good job. Evan interviewed some of the former linebackers on
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: the traits of uh Gerrod Mail, so you can read
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: down on Patriot dot com. Hey Tower, I did get
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: high Town, High Tower.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 4: I read it in traffic.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: I got High Tower, and I don't know if you
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: guys know, Alex got caught in traffic this.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 9: Morning after I did the interview with High Tower. I
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 9: was like, look, I got to ask you, you know,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 9: do you want to come back and coach? Like are
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 9: you interested in coaching?
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: And uh?
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 9: And he was like yeah, you know, my wife like
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 9: has been on me about it, and you know, I'm
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 9: thinking about it, thinking about it.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: So I recruited him. I gave him my best pitch.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 4: I was like, it was tweeting eyeball emojis like.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah last month.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 9: I was like, this is what you should do it
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 9: like you'd be great at it. I know Gerard has
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 9: talked actually on the record about how he thinks High
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 9: Tower would be a great coach. They need a linebackers coach,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 9: and you know it's a pretty good one.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: So okay.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: Travis in West Virginia A little off topic here. Paul
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: seems to think that every time someone ashes Josh allenis
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: because of an ulterior motive, such as jealousy or hatred
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: of the Bills. I have no ulterior motive. My evaluation
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: is honest. When I watch him play, I feel there
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: is something missing from his game that leaves him far
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: short of the greatness you all think he possesses so far.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: I'm right, you're wrong. He hasn't accomplished, Didley Pooh. Also,
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: I hate Coco Golf.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: He's right and you're wrong. I just would disagree that
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: he hasn't accomplished, Didley Pooh. I don't like. I'm not
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: one of these guys that just closes my eyes throughout
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: the whole year and then says, oh, by the way,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: who won the super Bowl? Yeah, oh, that's the one
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: that accomplished something. That's not how it works for me.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: I watch games, I watch how games are won. I
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: watch how much a guy has to do with the
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: game that they won, and I give him credit for that.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: There's something some people don't unless it's a super Bowl,
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: you give him credit for.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 9: You know, there's one thing to say, this guy is
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 9: incredibly talented, and that's where I give him the credit. Right,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 9: he's a incredibly talented player. But it is fair to
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 9: say that no, MVPs, he's never made a super Bowl,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 9: he's never won a super Bowl. Like in terms of resume,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 9: like he has an accomplished now, but watch it. Is
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 9: he a good quarterback?
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: That's what I just said. I said, just watch what
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: it takes for them to win games on a regular basis,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: Not like you know, every single game, But on a
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: regular basis, he's watch the difference between winning and losing,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: and more often than not, when they win, he's the reason.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's there on a lot of games like
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: the Dallas game, where they just line up and run
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: it one hundred times and that's how they win the game.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 9: And even their run game like it. In the second
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 9: half of the season, they started really running the ball well.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 9: And it's because they let him runs because of him,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 9: right Like, so all of a sudden, they're letting him
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 9: be a threat in the run game, and now the
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 9: run game works.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: People say the same stuff about Lamar Jackson. He's never
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: won anything. Just watch the games and see why the
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: Ravens win consists.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: But the emailer is correct in his thought that whatever
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: Patriots fans don't like it, Paul will take the opposite.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: No, that's why I change it to Lamar Jackson, who
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: doesn't really seem to get under anyone's skin. He will
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: this week if they happen to lose Brady. He like,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: this isn't about Brady, and it's always about Braid. See,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: I'd like to think that our listeners are a little
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: bit more evolved than the average Patriot fan. I think
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: our listeners actually watch the games and don't just react
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: to what everything is written on Twitter.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 5: I just my question is, how do you fix Josh Allen?
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 5: Like that's like the question. I think he's fascinating because
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 5: you know it's you're right, like when they win, it's
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 5: because of him. And when he tries to do too
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 5: much sometimes though, like at the end of the game
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 5: last week, like you know, it's it doesn't happen, and
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 5: did you know it's not taking the underneath stuff like
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 5: you know, trying to force it down, being a little
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 5: bit moreggressed.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: But it's you know, when you're at least tied, that's situational.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: But it's the same stuff with them field goal range
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: make it, but he didn't even outside.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 5: Of that specific game. Isn't the kind of the same
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 5: stuff with him? And when he loses, like that's.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: What it is him turnovers as a quarterback since twenty
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: twenty and played in the playoffs. Okay, but I'm saying
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: but but but but if you ask it, if you
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: ask everybody, the reason why Josh Allen is not quote
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: unquote that good, it's because he turns the ball over
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: too much. But he doesn't do that in the playoffs.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 5: But how would you fix them? Like, that's my question,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 5: think be fixed point, But how would you put it
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 5: around him? Like he's got Stefan Diggs's wide receiver. They
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 5: went more to they went to a running game. They
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 5: said all last year, I got to be better about
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 5: my decision making.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: How much better could they played offensively in that game
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: than they did?
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: I know?
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: But every time they got the ball and then that's
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: what pass hands three times, and that's three times, it's
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: you're wrong, dudes, you're wrong. I'm not saying we're on
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: the same side, like that's what that's what I like.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I'm right. I'm just I'm giving
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: you my view. I don't think like you might be right.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: That might be the thing that's keeping them back. They
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: consistently getting shootouts with the best and I've never said
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: that Josh Allen's better than Patrick Mahomes. They consistently getting
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: shootouts with the best shootout quarterback who's ever done it.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: I think that they and they lose.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 9: I think that McDermott's gotten them as far as he can.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 9: I think McDermott has plateaued and he's not a big
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 9: game coach, and I think it's more.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: Mostly on that that might think you can't get any redder.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 9: I'm saying that he's you know, there's always the coach
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 9: before the coach for a lot of a lot of think.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: I think that Sean McDermott I would much feel much
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: more comfortable questioning him, who's supposed to be a defensive
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: genius and yet cannot stop the other team in the playoffs,
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: yeah or ever or just like they don't even slow
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: them down.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 9: The DeMar Hamblin fake punt on your own thirty yards.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think that one was a check which
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: wasn't his fault, but they didn't that's said after the game.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: They said after the game. I think he did exactly
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: what a good coach does, and he took responsibility for it,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: much like Bill did with Patrick Chung back in twenty ten.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: Maybe I think that's what good coaches do. I just
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: I look at that because I I think so. But
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: I think it was an automatic check that happened on
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: the field that I think if McDermott had said, you
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: can't do that now, the impression that we only had
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: ten guys on the field I still.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 5: Remember the clip of that of Bill talking a Chunk
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 5: as he came off the field, and it was just
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 5: like in one of those conversations we've all had with coaches,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 5: like oh my god, he just walked away and you
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 5: can see Chunk kind of like palms up, Like I
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 5: think that, you know, with.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of truth to what Evan's
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: talking about with me. McDermott, Yeah, it reminds me.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 9: And I hate saying this because as a as a
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 9: Green teamer, I hate saying this, but it reminds me
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 9: a lot of the Celtics right now, where it's like
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 9: either Jason Tatum is going to take them to the
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 9: Promised Land or he's not. And that's just like no
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 9: matter what you put around him, no matter what else
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 9: you do, and none of it's gonna matter unless he's ready.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 5: To do it.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: He's gonna hit those shots at the end of Yeah.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 9: H and Josh Allen the same way. When he's ready
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 9: to win a super Bowl, they'll win a Super Bowl.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: Todd's in North Carolina. What's up, Todd?
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 13: Hey, guys?
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 21: Loss of hearing a quick point? Are we putting Fred's
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 21: lips in the Patriot place once he sheds this mortal coil,
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 21: because I think we kind of, you know, need something
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 21: like that. My lips, but yeah, you kissed Brady dude.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: Oh you you waited half an hour to say that.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 21: I didn't think it'd be half an hour.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: Fred, Oh, okay, you can just email that. I'll read it.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: I'll read it with emphasis.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 14: Anyway.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 21: My question is it looks like we're gonna ask get
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 21: some new staff in. So are you going to be
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 21: more happy with a new like a brand a person
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 21: in the new to the role of GM, or a
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 21: person new to the role of offensive coordinator? Which one
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 21: do you think we should probably end up having?
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: I have to choose, like both, I have to choose. Yeah,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: I'd rather neither have.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: If you're gonna have a GM, I'd rather have somebody
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: new to the OC job than GM. You know, like, like,
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  Speaker 2: am I really helping our thirty seven year old coach
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  Speaker 2: by bringing in someone who's never been a GM before?
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  Speaker 9: You know that's we already have two of those, like
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 9: we have Elliott Wolf and Macroe that can do that.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 9: You don't like that, well, I don't. I just think
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  Speaker 9: I need I need an adult. I need somebody that's
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 9: been and done it before.
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  Speaker 4: There's people here that have been like doing the work,
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 4: whereas there's just like no one on the offensive side
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 4: right now.
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  Speaker 1: No, but like, would you rather have Elliott Wolf as
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: the GM and some new guys offensive coordinator? Yes? Or
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: a new GM who you love and Josh McDaniels is
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. I'd rather do the first one. Yeah, I
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: don't think it matters. I think they need both of them.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: I think they're extremely important positions that need to play
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: in the game. You told me to choose, he did.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: I told you I think they're both. They're both. Really,
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: I'd rather have the I didn't yell at you know,
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: see now you got them all wound up. I didn't
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: yell at them. This is all it's my fault. I
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: don't think either one is could all right, I know
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: it's the opposite. I think both of them are very important.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. It just wasn't fair.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know there's something appealing about a young GM
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 5: who because I just think for these next couple of
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 5: years it's like, just find talent, identify talent, bring talent in,
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 5: build the talent on this team. I don't know where
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 5: they're going to go postseason, all that stuff in twenty
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 5: twenty four. But that that to me is like, you know,
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 5: and if Josh McDaniels is out there coordinating for a
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 5: little bit, fine, but you know, I just that's to me,
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 5: find the talent, like, get the guy who can find them.
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  Speaker 9: The biggest issue with the team. The biggest issue with
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 9: the team is personnel. It's talent on the field, and
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 9: so they have to have the best possible people in
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 9: place to get the most talent.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: I would also say coaching was a problem last year too.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: It was, but I think that their roster talent was
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: the reason. Why give me I think give me a
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: good give me a good offensive line coach. Please, you know,
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: I'll take stuff I never heard during the course of
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: the season. Please for two. Yeah, Raymond and Saint Louis.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: What's up, Raymond?
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  Speaker 24: I was going I just had a quick question. I
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 24: know podcast is the biggest thing right now. How did
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 24: y'all pick a podcast back then? When you know podcast
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 24: wasn't you know? He looked at how did you pick
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 24: to get this idea across this?
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: Well, yes, mister Kersh, I'll tell you, Raymond, it's a
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: good question. You can take this class at Emerson.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 8: No.
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  Speaker 2: I mean we were always you know, on the cutting
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: edge with the Patriots because of Jonathan Kraft and we
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: actually our first one was with the Revolution.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: We had the general manager of the team. We did
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: a call in.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: You know, back then, there was no iPods, so the
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: word podcast hadn't even been you know, labeled yet. So
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: this is back in like ninety nine, and we did uh.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: I forget what the name of it was, but it was,
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: you know, an ip.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: Based I think it was in the net or something
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: No, now that came after it was like GM's Corner
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: or something like that. So we would do that and
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: then we would record it and then put it up
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: there for people to listen afterwards or download to. Well
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: they didn't really have downloads.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 5: The Internet radio show.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, internet radio, they called it I P Radio, And
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: then we did the next year, we did the Patriots
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: in uh. We did two shows. We did the show
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: with Paul and me, but we also did one called
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: Patriots Cyber uh Cyber Cafe, and our PR guy at
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: the time, Don Lowry, would sit in the lunch room
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: with the players and he would just pull players over
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: while they were eating their lunch and interview them. But great,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: if we could do that now I do.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 5: I can't even imagine, would be amazing if we.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: Could set up.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: No, but that was you know, so we did that
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: back in the old stadium before the new stadium was
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: even then. We just we've been doing it ever since.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: And then of course, when you know, iPods came about,
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: then podcasts, then there was a way to download it
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: onto a device even before the even before the iPhone.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 11: It was.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: That's why it was still the world's original broadcast.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: Right it was the eye pod that came before the
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: iPhone and you could download it and and all that stuff.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a good question, Raymond, thanks for asking.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: I'm always happy to back in the days when I
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: dropped my first F bomb the show. Yeah, yeah, that
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: was back. I was mad at We had an office
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: in Walpole because the stadium wasn't built yet.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 5: Scott's Country, I heard.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no one gets under Paul skin like Brian.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: Moorey oh, even though even now he hasn't even been
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: here for like five years. Yeah, he's still mad at. Yeah. Uh,
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: Boston Cream is calling in. What's up? I want to
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: thank you Boston Cream that that honor was was really special.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 5: What did he come what was the rating he came?
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 16: Paul came in with, uh, who knows you're perfect?
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Boston Crean much appreciated.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 5: Fifty eight point three, he said. Paul came in as
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 5: like the highest ranked media member in Boston based on
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 5: his ranking.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was Are you okay?
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 5: I'm fine. I'm not I'm not saying yeah.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: Who was Uh? Who was polled in the was it Boston?
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 5: Extensive research I gather right Boston, he consulted with PF
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 5: all the donuts checked in.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 22: Unfortunately, the analytics information isn't public at this point, but
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 22: it has been triple source.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: It's a proprietary all right, will be Will you be
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: presenting at the Sloan Sports Analytics Convention.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 22: I don't really care to discuss the future of analytics here,
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 22: but I'm trying to spearheaded. Okay, the reason I called in, guys,
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 22: it's an off season show.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 24: This is way too much football.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: There are some things happening here. It's not your typical
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: off season here with the Patriots.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 22: I may allow for that.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: Listen, Bill Belichick told us we have to talk about it.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 22: Putting to a super Bowl party. The first round, pick
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 22: on the food. What's the first item.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: Hit in the at a super Bowl party?
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 4: Buffalo chicken chicken dip.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: We just did that, Buffalo chicken dip. We just became
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: best friends.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 5: I could go taco dip, which isn't the same. Family,
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 5: got like a cream cheese based and some salt sense and.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: You're starting, you start, So you're all starting with the zips.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 4: The chicken dip because it's a girl meal too.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: Though it's like the tenderloin sliders in Arizona. Wow, that's
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: very specific.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: Now if it's if it's a might have had a dozen,
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: it's a toity toity party.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: Shrimp cocktail or bacon right bacon scullps solid choice, Yeah yeah, classy,
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: first budget Bakon covers up the sculls.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 4: Good wings, mac and cheese, buffalo chicken.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: Wings wings questionable at that little mess standing. What about you?
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: What's hitting your plate? First?
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 5: Donuts?
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 22: Friends off guys, Okay, he speaks.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 5: His own language.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 9: Just makes a mean buffalo chicken dip though, real good.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: Well, it's about time compliments or something. You know. What
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: else is very good? Crab dip had crab good stuff.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: You're not, you're not, you don't know from the crab
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: crab cakes. I had crab cakes, and I'm not a
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: big seafood, but they were really good, really good crabs.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Matt and Virginia Beach.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 16: Hey, Matt, Hey, how y'all doing today? Okay, just that's
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 16: something I wanted to touch on real quick. Just reading
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 16: through fan blogs and whatnot, I noticed like a lot
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 16: of people getting their bridges all twisted up that we
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 16: haven't named a general manager yet. It's actually it's given
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 16: me a sense of comfort that the Patriots seemed to
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 16: be taking their time and really identifying who they want
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 16: as a part of this new regime. I really don't
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 16: care so much who is, just what their philosophy and
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 16: like making sure it aligns with Coach Mayo and what
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 16: he's trying to do and what he's trying to bring
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 16: to the table. One thing I love about Coach Mayo
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 16: what he said that the modern player they want to
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 16: know why they're asked to do things. It's so true.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 16: Just for a little context, I'm in a leadership position
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 16: in the US Navy and you create service beyond true
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 16: that the new crop of kids coming in, they want
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 16: to know why they're asked to be doing things. In
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 16: the military, even in the military, is the thing you
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 16: wouldn't think. You think we would just follow orders and go.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 16: And while that is definitely still a thing, you know,
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 16: good order and discipline is still a thing. A lot
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 16: of the kids they want to know why they're being
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 16: asked to do things, and I've had to adapt my
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 16: leadership style to that over the years. Where the whole
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 16: thing going back to collaboration, it works in the military
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 16: as well, where you can explain, Okay, this is the mission,
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 16: this is how we need to execute the mission. What
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 16: are the ways we can best execute this mission to
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 16: make sure that we have success. So it works for
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 16: us here in the military, and I think it could
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 16: work as well for the patriots as far as collaboration
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 16: is concerned. I like a lot of the things that
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 16: Coach Mayo is saying, Okay, so just hope whoever we
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 16: bring in like, I hope that aligns with what he's
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 16: trying to bring to the table. I think we kind
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 16: of get desensitized a little bit, especially us as fans.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 16: You know, if you make it to the NFL level,
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 16: in any capacity, Like you're not just a dope sitting
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 16: in your office licking the windows, like you're a smart person. Yeah,
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 16: I'm just it's given me a sense of comfort that
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 16: they're taking their time and really trying to identify the
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 16: best people. And that's really all I got.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: So, Matt, Matt, hold on a sec hold on before
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: you go. I just what what brings you the confidence
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: that they're looking for somebody.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 16: I think just the fact that they haven't jumped out
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 16: and named anybody yet, because I mean, that's.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: No I know, but what if that's what that that's
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: by design, this is the plan they're going to go forward,
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: and like Elliot Wolf is going to be just the guy,
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: Like I don't, Yeah, I think they need a guy.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 16: Elliott Wolf is the guy if he's going to be
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 16: the one, because ultimately there does I agree, there does
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 16: have to be a final decision maker. You can't just
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 16: go around the table over and over and over and
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 16: just spin your wheels. And if Elliott Wolf is that
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 16: guy and they deem him worthy of that position, I
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 16: mean I'm all for naming him general manager whatever you
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 16: want to call it.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they need to do better. But that's me.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: I think they need to find a guy. Thanks, Matt,
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: appreciate it. You're not looking. I don't think they're The
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: bigger question that I had for Matt was what makes
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: you think they're looking? Yeah, I don't think they're looking.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: I think that that this is what they're going to do,
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: this collaborative thing, this is what we're doing now. Well,
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: what if they really like, let's just say it's wolf
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: and I think they would have said it. No, maybe they.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: Want to keep things going until after the draft, and
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: once the draft is over they will say it.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: But I don't have any doubt that that could happen.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: But I wanted to. I want to talk to people.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: I don't understand why we're closing ourselves off to having
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: people that are only here Like, that's what I don't get. Yeah,
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: I also think I think the Navy they're the most
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: cutting edge branch. I couldn't agree with you more. That's
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: why I've heard.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 5: I just imagine, like Millennial Army liked, we got to
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 5: take out that encampment out there.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: Why I don't mind doing it? No, No, why they're
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: shooting right now?
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: But you need to be like I know, like firsthand
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: not that I was in the Navy, but what like
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: I have like a learning thing and like algebra, I
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: couldn't get it so like and not for a lack
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: of trying. But when I finally did get it and
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: I understood the what was behind it, I could teach
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: it because I thoroughly understood it. And I think there
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 2: is something to understanding that you know what we're doing.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: But why and how you want to help teach you? Yeah?
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: No, I'm serious and like and so I like to
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: this day, like I never I usually don't get things
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: the first time around.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: It takes me a little bit longer, but once I
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: get it, I really get it.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 5: How did you push through that frustration as a kid,
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 5: because I'm experiencing that as a parent right now where
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 5: my you know, if it doesn't come easily to them
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 5: in a variety of things, sports, academics, it doesn't come easy.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 5: I can't get it. I'm stupid. I'm not gonna do that.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: That's also our generation. I'm sorry.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 9: Yeah, Like we like to do things that are easy
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 9: to us, right the second that you feel something that's
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 9: like super challenging to you. That's what I think a
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 9: lot of like younger players in the league struggle with
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 9: this because they've been so good at football their entire
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 9: lives that like, once they get to this point and
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 9: they actually start to struggle a little bit, it's like, Okay,
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 9: I give up, right, like, And you know, I think
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 9: that that's that's something that I've definitely noticed from.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: More back to Jason Tatum en, come on, I wasn't.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 8: No.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: It's a good question, and I think.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 5: It's it's a kind of a question that I'm like
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 5: as a parent right now, just because you know, it's like, dude,
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 5: like you get so frustrated the second you don't get it,
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 5: and now you're just in this like spiral thing of
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 5: like I can't get it. I can't like it takes
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 5: a little bit of time, focus on it, work, you know.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 5: It's just it's it's hard to get through push through
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 5: that initial frustration.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: It is all right, it's that time of the week.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: Gotta hurry. How bad were you? I gotta find out
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: who's playing? You're terrible, Paul, what happened last week? Well
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: I told you that. You know, there is someone who
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: has a feel for the league, and that's really shining
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: through in these postseason giveings. He was matched by Evan
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: this week and the overall Evan and Fred four and O, Mike,
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: Alex and Paul three and one. But where it really
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: separates is with the spread. Fred also went four and
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: oh with the spread.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 5: He just turns it on in the postseason.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: Evan and Paul went two and two, and what happens
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: Mike and alexh and four.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 5: Well, I'm not good with the spread, So here we are.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. It's a overall. It's Fred at nine
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: and one, Wow, mister Evan and Paul seven and three,
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: Mike six and four, and miss traffic Jam at five
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: and five.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 5: It was Lumberer was lower everywhere.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: Fred with the spread seven and three, followed by Paul
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: at six and four, Evan at five and five, Mike
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: and the Lumberyard at three and seven. The Lumberyard.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, we've basically got three games left to
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: this weekend and he's one more after that, so let's
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: see what happens.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 5: We're not going to pick the Senior Bowl, Nah, I
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 5: think the West about the Pro Bowl.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: We'll bet on the skills part of the Pro Bowl.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's most accurate, all right.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: He wasn't even.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: Three o'clock on Sunday on CBS and Paramount Plus Plus.
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  Speaker 2: The eleven and six Chiefs are at the thirteen and
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  Speaker 2: four Ravens Baltimore by three and a half.
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  Speaker 5: Baltimore. All right, I'm gonna do it. I think it's
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  Speaker 5: Baltimore's time. I'm really kind of mad at myself that
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  Speaker 5: I didn't pick Kansas City last week because I remember saying, you,
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  Speaker 5: Paulner in the offseason. During the end of the regular season,
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, I feel like this is kind of like
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  Speaker 5: the six Patriots, where they don't really have it, but
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  Speaker 5: they're gonna knock a good team off in the division.
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  Speaker 5: I said it, and that I didn't. I didn't go
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  Speaker 5: with it. I was wrong. AnyWho. That's a long way
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  Speaker 5: of saying similar to two thousand and six when the
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  Speaker 5: Patriots ran out of gas because of you know, the flu.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, well they pumped it in.
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  Speaker 5: They pumped it in and plus noise they pumped that
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  Speaker 5: in too, so no one can overcome that. But I'm
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  Speaker 5: taking Baltimore. I will lay the points. I think it's
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  Speaker 5: their time to go to the Super Bowl of Lamar.
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  Speaker 9: I was like, I'm gonna take Baltimore as well. By
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  Speaker 9: three though, right, the spread is three and a half
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  Speaker 9: is the spread. So I'm gonna take Kansas City to
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  Speaker 9: cover the hook. But I really like Baltimore because now
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  Speaker 9: they have a complete like it's not you know, they
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  Speaker 9: have defense, they can run the ball, they can you know,
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  Speaker 9: rely on Lamar obviously, but that defense is playing exceptionally well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I made that comment to you last week about
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: their defense, and then I watched the game. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, it shows up. I mean I kind
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  Speaker 1: of felt like it was a little overrated, but it
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  Speaker 1: was not overrated last week. Yeah, and they were missing
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  Speaker 1: some key pieces too, like Marlon Humphrey.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean their linebackers fly to the ball.
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  Speaker 1: That Smith was huge.
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  Speaker 9: Kyle Hamilton is what we wish Kyle Duger was like,
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 9: that guy's just a freak. Yeah, they're they're really good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with Evan. I want to take Baltimore to win.
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  Speaker 1: I think they're at home. I think they get it done.
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  Speaker 1: But I think Kansas City is scrappy, proud enough to
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: keep it within.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean they're the Patriots. They're the modern
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you can't ever count them Fred. They've won
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  Speaker 1: But I am going to go with the Ravens in
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  Speaker 2: Now we get to the second game at six point
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  Speaker 2: thirty on Fox and Fox Deportes. I think both these
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: games are good, but this one's.
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  Speaker 1: A toss up.
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  Speaker 2: I really do think it's the twelve and five Lions,
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: of course against the twelve and five forty nine.
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  Speaker 1: Ers Great Niners by seven football in this one gritty.
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  Speaker 5: I you know, this might sound silly, but like I
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 5: really found myself hating Brock Purty last weekend, and I
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 5: really have been kind of neutral on him the whole time.
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  Speaker 1: I found myself laughing out loud at some of the
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  Speaker 1: plays that he was making up. I was just sitting
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: there right now, like he's got a grin ear to ear.
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  Speaker 5: There's also a girl on TikTok. You've probably seen her name,
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 5: Anna Fry who looks exact like Brock Party, and that's
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 5: like why she's Internet famous. Right now is a girl
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 5: on TikTok who looks.
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  Speaker 1: Like she's not famous for everything.
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  Speaker 5: She's not famous, She's just a TikToker that looks like
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 5: Brock Party. Some people out there know what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 5: I wish I could throw you all do except for me.
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  Speaker 5: I wish I could pick Detroit in this. I'm gonna
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 5: be rooting for them. I just think they're a good story.
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 5: But I'm gonna I'm gonna take San fran And but
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna get the points to Detroit. I think it'll
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 5: be close.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going the same way with Mike h If
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 4: it were my heart, it would be Detroit winning. But
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  Speaker 4: it would be so fun to see.
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  Speaker 5: I mean a lot of points though it is a
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 5: lot of points I'm taking.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: That's why they're taking the.
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  Speaker 9: I'm gonna do the same thing. But I think the
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 9: Niners in this game play a lot better. I think
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 9: the Packers it's a bad matchup. They know each other
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 9: really really well, with the two coaches having a relationship,
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 9: and the Packers always seem to play the Niners really tough.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 9: I think the Niners are a little bit easier in
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 9: this one, maybe like a backdoor cover or something like that.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: For the Lions. I take the I am I'm gonna
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: take San Francisco both ways. I think that outside. First
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: of all, Jared Goff is not the same. And I
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: feel like what Evan said about San Francisco. I think
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: they they got their mulligan last week. They should have
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: lost the game. Green bayle played them. They should have
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: they should have won the game. I think they get
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: that reprieve and they played much much better second time around.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: And I just to me, it's all about the defense
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: on Detroit. It's so bad. I think this could be
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: one of those games where Evan's like, I'm not gonna
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: listen to Paul on Tuesday because these guys just wide
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: open anybody can be. And I think he's gonna be
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: right this week. These guys are gonna be wide open,
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: I think, and party's gonna look a lot different. I
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: think a lot.
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if Deebo Samuel is playing
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: what's the fifty it's like fifty fifty, he.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: Probably's not gonna play.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: And if he doesn't play, I think it comes down
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: to brock party because I think the Lions are gonna
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: come in.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: I feel like they're gonna make your rockemen for I
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: think now we only had seven others ultimately, now I
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: think the Lions are going to come in keying on McCaffrey.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: That's going to be mission one is limiting him, and
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: so Perty is gonna have to throw the ball in
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 2: this game, and that's gonna be a big question. But
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 2: despite that, I do think the forty nine Ers prevail.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 2: But I think there's gonna be some turnovers involved, and
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 2: I think it's going to be closer than that spread.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: So give me the numbers. They have a chance, give
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: me the give me the have a chance to catch them.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: Give me the numbers.
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 2: But I do think we're going to see a rematch
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: of the Ravens and forty nine Ers Super Bowl, and
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 2: hopefully this time somebody reguards the electrical outlets and uh
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 2: they can keep the power.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: Not a rematch? Why not? Why is it? Because there's
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: no such thing.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: If it's if the last game was in a super
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 2: Bowl and this game is in a super Bowl, it's
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: a rematch.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: The last last game was in the super Bowl. It
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: wasn't earlier they played. No, No, I'm telling you. If
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: the game i'm comparing it to was also, I'm about yourself. Absolutely,
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: it's a rematch. My book, this quantifies as a rematch. Right,
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: But the Book of Kurse generally rematch.
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: If we were talking about the regular season game and
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: somebody said, oh, this is a rematch of the super Bowl, No,
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: that's wrong, it's not. No, it's not.
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: Or if you're playing if you just played in the
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: super Bowl and then you meet in the first week
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 2: of the season, it's not a rematch because it's not
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 2: the same stakes.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl more qualifications for a rematch. But I'll tell
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: you when it's.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 5: A forty six and rematch of forty two Super Bowl
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 5: forty six Giants Patriots, was that a rematch?
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 8: Yes?
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: You know what's funny about that. I think that might
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: be what started this whole Thing's it's not a rematch.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: The different players, different teams, That is a rematch.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 9: By the way, same quarterback three and six thirty. This
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  Speaker 8: Love it.
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  Speaker 5: It was even better.
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  Speaker 1: No, but it's still the network who's covering it can
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: have some show that will get ratings after the super Bowl.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: I'm just making that. I'm just saying that it's the
• 1:53:08
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  Speaker 2: You're not going to have people cashing out at eleven
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 2: o'clock because it's.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 4: A half time.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to miss the whole first game. And
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: I think that the day after the super Bowl should
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: be a holiday. Don't you national holiday? So it's president
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: we don't have to come in, was Alex. That was
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: the absolute question that needed to be asked. Good job.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 2: Once the once the league moves to eighth, Once the
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 2: move the league moves to eighteen, regularly, it's going to
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 2: be President's Day and it will be a holiday after this.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: The President's Day is the next week, so it's right there.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: So it's coming. It's coming. We're going to get that
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: holiday after the supermo we're all getting the Monday after.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: But do we even get that off here? Probably not.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know he's asking I don't pay attention to
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: the presidents. We found out all for years, like the
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: presidents weren't really presidents.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 4: Now you have the power to grant us that day's work.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: You do have that content team, I have a power.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 4: To do that should be a content team. Holiday.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 5: I don't know. Did you check with Bill?
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: What did Bill say?
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 12: No?
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 4: Days off?
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 14: No?
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: And that did nothing but take them. We can say
• 1:54:17
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• 1:54:21
  Speaker 13: How dare you?
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  Speaker 1: talk about and cutting it short. I got things to do.
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  Speaker 2: Enjoy the conference championships. Uh, and we'll be back on
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