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Almost Famous OG: The Ex-Files with Meredith Phillips · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Trista Welcome. Let's welcome everyone back to Almost Famous the Ogs.
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  Speaker 2: We are coming at you live and in technicolor today.
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  Speaker 3: I'm very excited.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, good morning, Good.
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  Speaker 3: Morning to you, Good morning to you. I'm very excited.
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  Speaker 1: I know I'm excited. I think that we talked about this,
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  Speaker 1: but it's been a trend lately to have some exes
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  Speaker 1: of Bob's on the show.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's already forgotten about that. We did. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we literally have. We've just been lighting up the scoreboard
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  Speaker 3: with all my exes lately. We got to start digging through.
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  Speaker 2: The Bachelor annals and start bringing out some of Trista's
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  Speaker 2: skeletons in the closet from the back in the day.
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  Speaker 2: We recently, we recently had on my ex wife, Rebecca Budig,
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  Speaker 2: and then we are not We've had on Estella Gardner
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  Speaker 2: for my season. We've had on Kelly Joe Kaharski, and
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  Speaker 2: now today we're going to interview Meredith Phillips. And Meredith
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  Speaker 2: was the fourth runner up on my season of the
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  Speaker 2: Bachelor and later went on to become the Bachelorette in
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  Speaker 2: her own right, and and We've tried to set up
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  Speaker 2: this set of you a couple of times now, and
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  Speaker 2: we're hopeful that life is busy.
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  Speaker 3: Works out today.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, very busy, very busy for everyone, absolutely, but yeah
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  Speaker 2: not us, not us. Tea dog, tea, money, and I
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  Speaker 2: are always available always. Yeah, I mean, you know, five
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  Speaker 2: year old's, three year old's, sixteen year olds and fourteen
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  Speaker 2: year olds?
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  Speaker 1: Are those the ages of our respect very close? Fifteen
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  Speaker 1: and seventeen. I'm thinking about.
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  Speaker 4: That the other day.
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  Speaker 1: I almost have an eighteen year old son. Like July
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  Speaker 1: next year, I will have an eight like a full
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  Speaker 1: fledged adult. I will have an adult. Yeah, we have
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  Speaker 1: a third adult in our house.
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  Speaker 3: So when is Max's birthday? July Ony twenty six?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Chris Harrison.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that's right. I knew that was a special day. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So you know yet another thing that you haven't in
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  Speaker 2: tune with, Chris Harrison there. Yeah, I was thinking because
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  Speaker 2: my son Blake is July first, so I was wondering, Uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know where that birthday was? But gosh, I do
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  Speaker 2: I remember, like it was yesterday when you when you
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  Speaker 2: guys had Max.
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  Speaker 3: Oh me too, Yeah, I remember, well, I remember it
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  Speaker 3: for a myriad of reasons.
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  Speaker 2: One, it's like all of a sudden, you start taking
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  Speaker 2: stock of your own life and you're like, what am
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  Speaker 2: I doing exactly when you have a kid. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sitting here flying solo at the time. I'm sure,
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  Speaker 2: but you found a place.
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  Speaker 3: I did. It just took me a little more time
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  Speaker 3: than some that's all.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, a little more time, but we made it.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we're done with the fiddle around the gold
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  Speaker 3: Rush era.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Bob was just talking before we started the show.
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  Speaker 3: But it really makes me solid and I throw in
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  Speaker 3: the fiddley f yeah, because you.
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  Speaker 1: Do have to throw in the arms and you know, canation.
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  Speaker 1: Like Ryan just went to North Dakota and he was
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  Speaker 1: saying that it is like all it's like super old school,
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  Speaker 1: like a like a black and white like cowboy movie film,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and all these farms and everyone's wearing cowboy
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  Speaker 1: hats and probably walking around like this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like gold Rush era.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's pretty crazy when you visit, you know,
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  Speaker 2: some of those places like Montana's like that. You go
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  Speaker 2: to Montana and it is just absolutely crazy, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's all like and I want to I
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  Speaker 2: want to spend more time in those places myself personally.
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  Speaker 2: But to know further ado or too much further ado?
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  Speaker 2: What do I say too, without any further.
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  Speaker 1: Ado, without any further ado.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, without any further ado.
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  Speaker 2: Let's bring in our guest, my ex girlfriend from the
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  Speaker 2: Bachelor at season four.
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  Speaker 3: And also what Bachelette was she?
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  Speaker 2: She was right after you, right, so we got to
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  Speaker 2: bring her on. Then let's bring her on. Let's bring
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  Speaker 2: on Meredith Phillips on to the Bacheorette or Therette the
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  Speaker 2: almost famous anymore? Dude, No, we are not, So let's
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  Speaker 2: bring her in. I'm very excited to get to talk
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  Speaker 2: to her. I haven't seen her in many, many, many years.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the show whenever we can bring her in.
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  Speaker 3: Hi, Meredith Rye.
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  Speaker 5: It's a day all day here in the Northwest, so
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  Speaker 5: it's raining, and I thought that you you know, I know.
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  Speaker 3: But that's that's a normal fall day in the serving Northwest.
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  Speaker 3: I was in Seattle for quite a few years. I
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  Speaker 3: loved it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the fall leaves and everything is so pretty.
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  Speaker 1: I love that. I love fall. I am just I'm
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  Speaker 1: on it on track to go visit my family back
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  Speaker 1: in the Midwest, and I cannot wait to see the
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  Speaker 1: fall leaves. If it is, how is it in Michigan.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's very fall. All the fall colors
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  Speaker 3: are full in bloom.
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  Speaker 4: Are you back in Michigan?
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  Speaker 3: I am. Yeah. I moved back to right before COVID. Oh.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so happy that I did because I got to
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  Speaker 2: spend time with my dad before he passed away, and
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  Speaker 2: my kids got to meet him, and so that was
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  Speaker 2: pretty awesome.
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  Speaker 3: But Meredith, welcome to the show. How's your family, how's
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  Speaker 3: everyone doing well?
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  Speaker 5: I lost both my parents. Oh within a two year period.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, oh, my gosh, very very hard.
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  Speaker 3: That's brutal, brutal.
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  Speaker 4: My dad died of a heart attack in his sleep.
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  Speaker 4: In his sleep. Yeah, he didn't know.
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  Speaker 5: I mean obviously, I mean it's he didn't know.
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  Speaker 3: That's a blessing. I contend that's a blessing, right, I guess.
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  Speaker 5: My mom said to me that she laid with him
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  Speaker 5: for a little it before she called the ambulance.
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  Speaker 3: Ah, that's sweet.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry.
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  Speaker 5: Uh. And then my brother and my mom didn't tell
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  Speaker 5: me because I'm so emotional a lot of the time,
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  Speaker 5: until a couple of days later.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 4: I was living in La at the time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Wow. Yeah, and then my mom had just you know,
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  Speaker 5: not to put it lightly, but cancer.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so cancer sucks. That's what got my
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  Speaker 3: dad too. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Where are you now, Meredith?
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  Speaker 5: You're in I'm in the Northwest, okay, Yeah, you came
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  Speaker 5: back from the South. I moved to the Carolinas, which lordie,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I feel for them right now right now.
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  Speaker 4: I got out of it.
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  Speaker 5: But it's you know, I knew it was coming, and
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  Speaker 5: I work for hospitals, so it's, oh you do you're.
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  Speaker 1: Not in weren't you a chef? You are a chef
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  Speaker 1: chef hospitals? Oh? No, kidding, that's an Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, my name on.
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  Speaker 1: My shirt and everything.
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  Speaker 3: That's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: That's amazing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been doing.
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  Speaker 1: Are you like, do you actually work in the hospital
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  Speaker 1: or is this like a remote job where you just
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  Speaker 1: set things up or I have.
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  Speaker 5: A base here in the Northwest and then I travel
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  Speaker 5: to other hospitals that need me. So it's it works
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  Speaker 5: for me.
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  Speaker 1: Do people recognize you from the shell When I first got.
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  Speaker 5: To the hospital that is my base, Yes, they googled
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  Speaker 5: me because because it's a bear hospital. Yeah, the tinier ones,
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  Speaker 5: they're like, we don't care. You know, they're not They're
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  Speaker 5: not going to look for me, you know.
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  Speaker 4: But how about you guys, I mean, Bob I didn't
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  Speaker 4: know yet.
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  Speaker 2: Two kids, Yeah, I got a five year old and
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  Speaker 2: a three year old, both boys.
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  Speaker 5: Wow wow yeah yeah, yeah they are they are.
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  Speaker 3: Animals. I mean, it's a feral community over here. It's
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  Speaker 3: like man, but it's fun.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: My wife, she we've been together actually eight years this November,
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  Speaker 2: and she she's she's an amazing mom.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm I'm uh, you know, I'm always kind
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  Speaker 2: of going all over the place and she has it
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  Speaker 2: on lockdown, you know, which is.
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  Speaker 4: Needed yang kind of thing.
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  Speaker 3: Very much, Yeah, very much. She gets it.
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  Speaker 2: She gets all the heavy lifting and I get all
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  Speaker 2: the light fun stuff. It seems yeah, but does seem
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  Speaker 2: like a fair distribution to stuff. I love that. And
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  Speaker 2: then Trista we were talking. Trista is going to have
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  Speaker 2: she has a seventeen year old and a fifteen year old.
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  Speaker 4: That's crazy, Trista, I do.
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  Speaker 1: I was just saying that I cannot believe he's going
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  Speaker 1: to be eighteen in July, Like I will have an adult. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: by definition in my house, as you know, in addition
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  Speaker 1: to me and Ryan. But then he's got to.
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  Speaker 5: Go like, yeah, he's got to fly away after eighteen.
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  Speaker 1: I know I have so many friends going through that
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  Speaker 1: right now. Have you guys heard of the term soil
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  Speaker 1: the nest?
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  Speaker 3: No, they have heard that term.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so before kids leave for college, supposedly there's this
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  Speaker 1: like phenomenon where kids actually become like pretty rude to
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  Speaker 1: their parents and they like, you know, act like you know,
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  Speaker 1: douchebags or whatever you want to say, because they're trying
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  Speaker 1: to like soil the nest, so it's easier for them
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  Speaker 1: to leave, like subconsciously.
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  Speaker 4: I think that was the same way now that you're talking.
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  Speaker 1: I was, yeah, right.
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  Speaker 3: Yes I wasn't. I was like I loved my nest.
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  Speaker 3: That was all about my nest.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, good, Well that gives me hope that he won't
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  Speaker 1: want to soil the nest, and he'll he'll want to
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  Speaker 1: be just perfectly lovely to his mind.
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  Speaker 3: I think, I think Canyon.
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  Speaker 2: I think my wife soils the nest every time I
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  Speaker 2: leave town for a work because she's not like, she's
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  Speaker 2: not like the one that's like, you know, oh.
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  Speaker 3: My god, call me, I'm gonna miss you so bad.
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  Speaker 2: She's always like get out, you know, take your bag.
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  Speaker 2: I'll see it Sunday. She's soiling her nest, so to speak.
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  Speaker 2: I know if that applies to adult relationships.
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  Speaker 6: I have a.
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  Speaker 1: Feeling that maybe she feels like there are three children
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  Speaker 1: in her house and so getting rid of one of them.
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  Speaker 3: You stole my joke. I swear to you.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say that earlier when you were
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  Speaker 2: going to go when you were like, you know, we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna have three adults in the house with Max, Ryan
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  Speaker 2: and myself, and I was like, man, if your kid
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  Speaker 2: was here, we'd still just have two.
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  Speaker 3: But I understand, I understand where you're going with that.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I do have to say something, Trista. If it
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  Speaker 5: weren't for you actually marrying Ryan, I don't think that
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  Speaker 5: this series would have gone on.
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  Speaker 3: Oh I agree, I agree.
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  Speaker 5: So you know, I mean I appreciate, I mean, I
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  Speaker 5: love the fact that you are still together, and you know,
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  Speaker 5: it wouldn't have been a series at all.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's funny because people have said that over
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  Speaker 1: the years, and it's not like we planned it or
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  Speaker 1: no did that because we had any contention of like
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  Speaker 1: keeping the show afloat and who knows if that's truly
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  Speaker 1: you know, played a part. But that's very sweet of you,
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  Speaker 1: thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Well, No, it's true, it's not sweet.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with Meredith because you can only do do
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  Speaker 2: that formula so many times and if it doesn't work
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  Speaker 2: then it's like then it's like every other.
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  Speaker 3: You know, dating show out there.
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  Speaker 2: Instead you guys, you guys found love, like real love
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  Speaker 2: and it and it gave everyone enough.
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  Speaker 3: I think it like proved the concept enough. Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: I agree with Meredith on that for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Did you watch the show, Meredith before you applied or
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  Speaker 1: tell us your application story, like did you get nominated
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  Speaker 1: or reply or how did that.
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  Speaker 5: It's interesting because I was living in LA and modeling
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  Speaker 5: at the time, and I was living with my roommate
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  Speaker 5: that I decided to, you know, bring her from Portland
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  Speaker 5: to LA and she was a talent agent and she
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  Speaker 5: sent me up without me knowing.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I have zero clue that she signed me up up.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, So I got surprised by a friend of mine
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  Speaker 5: at her house that said, Okay, You're gonna be on
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  Speaker 5: the Bacherette or the Bachelor, And I'm like, what, like yeah,
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  Speaker 5: but with the cameras.
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  Speaker 4: And everything around and I'm like, okay, I mean, I
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  Speaker 4: can do it.
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  Speaker 1: You're so funny. You're similar to Ryan. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: I've always said that he can't say no, and so
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  Speaker 1: that's why he ended up on the show because this
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  Speaker 1: a friend nominated him and a bunch of other guys
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  Speaker 1: that she was friends with, and they picked him and
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  Speaker 1: he couldn't say no. So are you the same like
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  Speaker 1: you just you're like, okay, fine, yes.
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  Speaker 4: In that scenario.
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  Speaker 5: Working in the industry that I'm working in now, I
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  Speaker 5: am finding a way to say no. Personal good you know,
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  Speaker 5: body wise, I'm getting older. I just turned fifty one.
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  Speaker 5: It doesn't work the same.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, No, it doesn't fifty one. You're just a baby, Meredith. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: I'm fifty three.
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  Speaker 2: I'm the oldest person on this call right now. What
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  Speaker 2: and the elder statesman? Yes, you know what, Meredith. I
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  Speaker 2: actually remember that because our origin story was very similar,
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  Speaker 2: because I didn't submit myself to be on the show either,
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  Speaker 2: and I got kind of I thought it was a joke,
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  Speaker 2: and trist has heard the story a million times.
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  Speaker 3: But Lacey Pemberton was the casting director who.
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  Speaker 2: Was calling me, and I I thought it was a joke,
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  Speaker 2: you know, because her name was Lacey from the Bachelor,
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  Speaker 2: and I didn't submit my own information, so I'm like, oh, okay, Lacey,
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  Speaker 2: if that's your real name, you know, I thought it
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  Speaker 2: was really funny, right, And finally she finally she's just like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I got guys begging to on the show to meet Trista,
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  Speaker 2: and you don't seem to understand what's at stay here.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm gonna fly you out because I can't get
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  Speaker 3: you off my mind because you're like being funny about it.
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  Speaker 2: And then I just sort of you know that. Of
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  Speaker 2: course I did meet Trista, and you know, she fell
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  Speaker 2: in love, but I told her not enough, not Trista,
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  Speaker 2: there's not enough of me to go around.
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  Speaker 3: Wait, that's not how it went.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I love y'all's like correlation with each other.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's never going to stop, you know.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I know it's crazy. You know, it's funny, though, Trista, Trista,
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  Speaker 3: I think, will she'll tell you.
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  Speaker 2: But I remember Ryan and I were like bunk bed mates,
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  Speaker 2: like our bunks were right next to.
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  Speaker 3: Her, to each other.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, weird.
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  Speaker 2: And I would come back to the room man and
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  Speaker 2: Ryan be he would be you know, working on the poetry,
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  Speaker 2: and I'd be working on my seventeenth vodka soda.
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  Speaker 3: It was just it was one of those things.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, God, I love him, I love him
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  Speaker 3: for her and I love her. And it was like,
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  Speaker 3: but I mean, of course, you know.
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  Speaker 2: You're competitive and you're in this thing, and you don't
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  Speaker 2: want to be a dude kicked to the curb, and
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  Speaker 2: you want to find out if you have a love
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  Speaker 2: connection too, especially when it's Trista, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, and I know it's pretty awesome.
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  Speaker 5: So let me ask you this, Why Bob was I
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  Speaker 5: the fourth one to be let go?
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  Speaker 4: I know in my mind, why, Well, there's a few
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  Speaker 4: things you speak, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I think part of me was, uh, you know, you're
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  Speaker 2: you're so like in those moments, you're so kind of
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  Speaker 2: like pulled in a million directions, right, I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 2: after having done the show, it's such a different experience
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  Speaker 2: when you're handing out the flower as opposed to the
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  Speaker 2: one who was waiting for a flower, you know. And
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  Speaker 2: I mean I think that's what really kind of galvanized
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  Speaker 2: mine in Trista's friendship too, was after I had been
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  Speaker 2: on her season and I knew. I was like, I
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  Speaker 2: love this person, like we get along so great, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and then I go on to be the baster guy,
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  Speaker 2: and I now understood the burden of going through that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and you don't no one's done anything wrong,
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  Speaker 2: and you're just trying to like put it all together
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  Speaker 2: and be like, I don't know, I feel a connection here.
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  Speaker 2: I don't feel I don't know what I'm feeling, but
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  Speaker 2: part of it for me too. And if you remember,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure you remember. I'm sorry to even say that,
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  Speaker 2: but your grandmother passed away during our season, and it
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  Speaker 2: kind of it.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of rocked my world a little bit. I won't lie.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, I need to go home.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, well, well in our date that date was actually
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  Speaker 2: really kind of hysterical when you think about it. We
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  Speaker 2: go on this date and Meredith is a total trooper.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: She's like, no, I really want to be here, and
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: my grandma would want me to continue and stuff. So
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: we go on this date in and Meredith jump in
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: if I'm I never want the facts to get in
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: a way of a good story. So I may have
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: manipulated some of this in my head. But we go
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: to Seal Beat, we get on. We get on the
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: horseback right, and we're trotting down the beach. We're galloping
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: along in the in the in the and I looked
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: over like this, well, I'm like this because I'm hold
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: the reins. I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm like I'm cowboys.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like a badass rider in my mind. Again,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: don't let the facts get in the way of the
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: real story here. I hadn't read, I hadn't ridden a
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: horse since boy Scout camp, and like, you know, I know,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: no one would have guessed the way I was commanding
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: that thing. But as we're going down the beach, and
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: here's the story that I remember in my head. I
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: remember looking over at Meredith and she looks all lovely
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: and her hair is flowing in the wind and everything.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: But I can tell she's got like a her eyes
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: are watering, you know, maybe like a little itchy throw.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: She's like, I'm like okay, and she's like, I don't know,
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: I might be mildly allergic to horses. This is this
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: is how I remember this.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: I have my mic on and I know I'm miked,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, you guys gotta be kidding me. I
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: think Meredith might be having like some type of allergies
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: or something. So we pull up to this sand castle
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: that I have to make Meredith think that I came
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: out there earlier and constructed this thing.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Out of sand.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like I made us the sand castle, which I
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: totally did not, you know, And I think, I tell
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: you at the time, like I had nothing to do it.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: And we go inside and now I pull out of
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: the sand under a piece of wood, a steaming like
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: a crawfish broil style, and this is what we're supposed
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: to have on our plates, which is like all this shellfish.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: And Meredith goes, I am like deathly allergic shellfish. I am,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: I right on this my idea. You're like, I'm allergic shelfish.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Well, all I remember is like yelling at the producers
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: in my like I step outside of the thing.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: I'm like, guys, she's allergic shellfisch.
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: What I remember is the horse ride and then us
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: just talking about everything. I don't remember the shellfish story
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: at all.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Are you allergic to shellfish?
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: No, okay, do you like shelfish?
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Tristes allergic to shellfish?
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I'm allergic to the shellfish. I hate shellfish. I don't
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: like seafood.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: You like seafood, not even well you never had Meredith.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Meredith's job.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: She can make something, it's the texture. She can't change
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: the texture.
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: Well, if it's cooked correctly, it's pretty awesome.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Like the chewiness. I just and the
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: smell of fish, Like.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: What about like a light flaky Chilian sea bass that
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, have a.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Little bit like salmon or I know I've had sea bass. Whatever,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: We'll have a little bit of it, catfish. I've tried to.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: I don't I'm not a seafood girl. I just you know, yeah,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's I don't know it every day.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: But so you remember a totally different story, Meredith than
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Bob does.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: And that's still horses, horses and sand castles are accurate.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I do remember candles in there. Oh I remember
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: Jase Garbone was there.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Was Jason on your season two?
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: Meredith?
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, yes, yes, sir. So I remember just feeling
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: kind of odd because like my friend just lived right
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: up the street. You know the scene or you know
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: whatever you want to call it.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: But it is a scene.
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: Well, you and my grandmother just died, and the way
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: they did it, I think with the phone call and
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: it was my first date with you, and all the
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: girls decided that it was going to be me, and
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: then the phone rang and I was getting ready and
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: then I got the news and I had to kind
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: of hide all of emotion. And I don't think that
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: was correct. I don't know if they do that anymore.
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: But you know, it wasn't fair to you, and it
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: wasn't fair to me.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like, because I feel like lately on
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: the seasons, if something like that has happened, I actually,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: as a viewer, love that it's like being discussed because
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: it's like a real life conversation.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: None of us can avoid death, right, And so do
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: you when you look back at that, do you feel
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: like you wish you would have been more like in
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: tune with your emotions instead of saying, you know what,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: I need to be like present on the state and
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: not think about the fact that I just lost my
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: grandmother and I'm really sad. Do you know what I mean?
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: I do know what you mean.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: And you know I spoke with my mom and my
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: brother was on the same line and they're like, you're there.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: Just do what you need you know what you need to.
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: Do, and yeah, I said, you know, I want to
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: come home and like it's not it's not for you
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: to come home, and we'll deal with this when you
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: do come home. And that is how I process that,
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: and yeah, of course you know it's yeah, and that's
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: not wrong young that It was like, yeah, okay, when
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: I'm told to do something, yeah I'll stay and yeah,
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: it actually helped me out to not forget, but just
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: for a little bit.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, Yeah, I will say it was. It was.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Uh, it was hard for me on my end, not
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: nearly as hard as it was for you, but liked
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: tell you, they told me when and that's why. I
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: don't know if you remember this part either, but I
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: asked if we could talk for a little bit before
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: we went on this date, and you came out to
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: the limo.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: We had a big g limo thing.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, I remember, if you want
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: to go home, I think that's totally okay because I
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: think I would go home right now.
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: Well, I remember because the cameras weren't on and they
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: were pissed.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: Off about that because we actually talked, right.
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I had my makeup bag in there, and so
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: they were mad that we actually had a conversation without
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: them filming.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I didn't want Like I was like, I
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: felt like it was just such a violation, you know.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: I was like, she needs a minute and not with me, guys,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: like she hardly even knows me, Like this is not
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: fair to her. And then yeah, and then they were
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: you were like, you know, oh, man, I was so
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: annoyed by that. And then when they asked, you know,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: and then I I wanted you to be able to
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: see your family too, and they were like, you know, well,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: because I said, I go, I go, what happens if?
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Because I was like trying to weigh out what to do.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Quite honestly, I was like, like, what happens if, Like
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: does she get to go home and see her family
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: if I don't give her a rose? And they're like, nope,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: she'll be on she'll be sequestered, And I'm like, and
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: if I give her a.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Rose, does she get to see her family?
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, now, I was going to give you a
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: rose anyway, quite honestly, but but I was also at
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: that point where I was kind of like, because I
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: won't give her a flower, if she gets to go home,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: cinner like, because I wanted you to do to get to
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: go home, you know. And and then I got to
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: meet your family and it was a sense at a
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: time for everyone, of course, and that was tough. And
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: I really, you know, I really love I remember your brother,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: and I remember your mom and dad being such lovely people,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: and you know, I remember being in your house in Portland.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: And but there again, the thing I remembered, you know,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: the most, was our first stop on that date was
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: to the cemetery, and I.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Remember thinking, this is just not right.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: She should be here with her family, not with me,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: like I remember I was, so I was struggling, man,
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: I was struggling with the whole thing.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I was too.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: And you know when the producers ask you, you know,
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: what do you want to do? What do you want
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: to do? And you know, I haven't seen my family
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: for so long.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah that's maybe what I want to do.
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: And it was probably incorrect, but you know, at least
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: I had people around me and helping me out.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: I remember it well.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: I remember thinking to myself, like, gosh, she should be here,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: not with me in a camera crew like it should
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: be in her family, you know.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was tough. That was tough because I didn't know.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: I didn't know the right thing to say, you know,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: And normally I'm pretty good in those moments that you know,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: but in that one, I was just like, I don't
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: even really know what to say.
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: Probably should have said something funny, which.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: I think I did.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like or at least part or something.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, that's just what that just doesn't happen.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: I don't think I'm capable of that.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I'm sure you're not. No, let's get
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Jass on the phone.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, she'll be like, oh my god, don't get
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: my kids on the phone. They're the ones they'll tell
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: the truth.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. So as a bachelor, then you get
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: asked to be bachelorette and what were your initial thoughts
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: on that and did you need a lot of convincing.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: Well, this is.
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: Kind of a long but short story. Kelly Joe was
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: actually originally to be the bachelor.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: We talked to her about that, did you Yeah, And
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: then she I.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: Was living in LA and she met somebody and she
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: was like, no, I mean I'm not going to do it. Yeah,
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: I guess that was the second choice. So you know,
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: I mean it made I mean, Kelly Joe is awesome.
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: I mean I yeah, I mean she's awesome, a bundle
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: of energy and yeah, you know she's an entrepreneur and
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: leverage of that. But I remember being on the phone
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: with her in LA when it happened with her mom.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: Her mom's awesome too, Yeah, And I said, are you
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: sure that you don't want to take this? Yeah, I
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: and the jobs, so to speak, and she's like, no's
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: like you take it. And then I asked my family
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: and they're like why not, you know, And I almost
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: said no, because I'd rather just remain you know, a
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: model and you know, work for hospitals.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: But yeah, uh do.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: You because obviously you didn't end up with Ian. No,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: that's another no, I know, But do you do you
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: look back on that and have any regrets?
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: I do have some regrets.
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: When Ian came out of that limo of the last one,
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, that was on purpose. Let's be honest. That
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: was on purpose because you know, they say I fixed
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: this tie, but I just knew right then. So it
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: was like, oh, great, I have.
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: Two and a half and like maybe a month and
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: a half because I guess my show was.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: Like the fastest that they shot, so I didn't really
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: have have a lot of time.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: To consider anyone else, Like, I don't know how long.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: Did you guys?
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: That was?
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: How long you shat?
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that's just what it was back then.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: But that's what it was back then.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Now it's like, you know, that's why I think now
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: the casting is so different, because if you don't have
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: three months to go to the Netherlands or Thailand, you're
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: not that right.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: I mean, okay, first of all, let's talk about that.
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: We don't have to talk about the money wise and
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: what we got paid, because obviously that's not okay, but
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: I didn't, so there you go.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: So, but it's just it's transpired into something that I
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: don't really want to watch it anymore.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Oh you'll watch it at all.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: I don't. I don't have TV.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Oh interesting, I would not survive without television. Let me
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: put that on record.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Considering the fact that I was on the phone with
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: my U, my internet provider and able provider right before
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: this call going my TV's not working.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Right, Honestly, I was just watching Max play hockey on
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: my television because we have happy YouTube app or whatever
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: on there and I get, you know, put it up
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: on my on my screen and watch him kind of.
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: Like he's right there skating in my living room.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, how's Ryan.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: He's good. He's he's feeling good and he's happy to
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: not be commuting two hours to work, which was what
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: he was doing. We just moved to dinner. Yeah, so
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: he's good.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: He's good.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: So going back, I feel like we got we got
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: highjuction for some reason. I don't know. But do you
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: have any regrets about the show and Bachelorette or Bachelor
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: or life after?
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: I do have some regrets from the Bachelorette, meaning that
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: I was kind of told what to do and instead
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: of me doing what I really wanted to do, got
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: it and you know, being you know, picking out like
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: the rings and all that and lied to about how much.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: They cost and what do you mean what do you
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: mean they lied to you about how much they cost?
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean I was, I picked out three rings.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: So you okay, you picked out three rings? Because I
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: don't know if I.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: Did you get that?
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: If I picked that rings? Did I went to her instant?
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah I did.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: I got a choice.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say. I thought they would make the
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: girls like choose.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: They liked and then the guys basically was to choose
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: from exactly yeah.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and.
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: So I mean I picked out the one that I liked.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: I I regret.
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: I know, I don't really want to say this, I guess,
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: but I'm going to One of the producers said, if
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: you don't give her this ring.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: Just do it for me. That's all I'm going to
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: say about that.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: What meaning like, if you don't want to propose, just
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: do it anyway type of thing.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, Like, basically you're saying like they were give her
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: the ring purpose? Yeah yeah, is that what he told
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: you afterwards.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: The producer did? Yeah?
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh the producer actually told you that he said that, Yeah, yeah, So.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: That was kind of disappointing.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: I mean it was kind of like a want like,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: so you so you're engaged at this point and you
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: hear from the producer that he told Ian to propose
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: or else. Essentially, I'm sure if that was me, I
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: would be like, wait, what, I had no idea, like
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: if they.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: Gave him a bunch of alcohol, probably, I mean the
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: producer or Ian, they gave Ian a bunch of alcohol
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: because he didn't see okay, I mean he didn't seem
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: right to me.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: I mean I had nothing to drink.
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: So I'm just waiting there, you know, who's going to
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: come through, And I'm waiting for him, and he's drunk
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: as a skunk and he gets down on one knee.
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: Well actually, if you remember, he actually stood instead of
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: got down on one knee.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: Okay, proposed and the producer was like.
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and he's like, I mean he's Brazilian.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: I don't know, I.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: Mean coaching romance, right.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Have you had any contact with him after your breakup?
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: I think he's back in Brazil, but no, no, they haven't.
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: I don't think for some reason, he doesn't want any
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: correlation with the show. Yeah, so some people are like
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: that after their experience on the show.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: I mean Alex Rochelle's like that, right, I mean, the
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: original Bachelor, He's he's never wanted.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Anything to do with it. Yeah, Charlie Charlie Maher, who
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: was from Trista's season.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he and I became really good buddies. Share
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: a birthday like every year, like it's up five eight,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: you know, cause it's May eight. But yeah, he has,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: he has no connection to it all. Well he did
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: for a little while after, remember he went to work.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: For it, did Yeah, he did. And some people are
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: like that, they just want to return back to normal life.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Totally understand that, Like it's all it's all good. I mean,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: it's kind of a different beast these days with Bachelor Nation,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: and you know, just how if you're on the show,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: you were affiliated and it's kind of hard to break away.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: But I totally understand that.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: I never had, I mean a bad experience, but it
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: was still new.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: I mean we all went through I mean the newness
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: of it, you know. Yeah.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: I think I think the producers were learning as much
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: about it at that time as we were, you know
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: what I mean, because I mean I talk to him
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: now like I still, you know, randomly keep in touch
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: with Carbone every now and then, Sally Michael Charles. Yeah, Yeah,
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: their experiences were so new then too, they were, and
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: I mean I don't think they always feel so good
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: about Stuffy they had to do as producers sometimes when
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: it would really it was fun, fascinating.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we had fun then I think it got dark
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: years later.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, but I will say they do still have fun.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: So I've been on a couple of the recent shows,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: and I love the producers now too. I mean, obviously
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: I have very strong bond with the producers back in
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: our day, but but they do still have so much fun.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I just love that. I love the energy of the
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: people behind the scenes, all the all the crew, you know,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: the producers, the director Ken Fuchs and you know for
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: the live shows and stuff. But I do still love
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: the energy, So I will say that they do still.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: I mean, nothing was I mean everything was as it
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: is reality when it was TV. So I don't know,
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: if you know the Bachelor or about for rut now
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: a day, if it's are you supposed to say.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Something that you're not or you know, I think you
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: just like honestly, I feel like they probably prompt people still.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: I know they do, you know, because they have interview
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: questions and stuff that they ask you in your itms,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: and but they do. I I think I still believe,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: because I've been on set for the last few shows,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: that there are like dates where they take you and
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: then it's like they're just there as like a fly
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: on the wall. And I I there are people who
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: still believe that it's scripted, and I still will defend
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: the fact that it's not.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: It's yeah, yeah, it wasn't for us. I mean it
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: wasn't on mine Inmeredith's season, so it wasn't from Tristan
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: my season either. So yeah, I can say, you know,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: from having gone from the bachelright to the Bachelor, that
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: I was never told what to say or you know,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: I was told, but I was I was told about
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: situations right, Like I was told on the first night.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: These three girls are kind of mad at this girl.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Here's what we're thinking you did.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I don't think they get involved.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: I asked for her.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, if you want me
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: to go up there and grab somebody, I need to
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: know why, Like what are you.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Guys doing amazing?
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, so they said they'd be like, well, these
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: three girls seem to not like this girl, so we
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: want you to come up and ask this girl for
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: a moment ago you know, like the moment might have
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: been not scripted, but the moment might have been arranged
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: to a certain degree.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: But I understood why. I got well, but.
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: You know, you know, I mean, you're asked to do
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: you know, the bio, all the paperwork, right, before you're
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: accepted to be this person in reality TV. Do you
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: remember filling all that stuff out and doing, yeah, the
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: psychologue work and all that.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: So it's a play like Okay.
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: Well we're going to have her too. She's not gonna
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: like that one, but this one's probably going to get
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: together with this one, and then you know, I mean
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: it is an orchestra.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you have to know the people who
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: are coming on the show. I think the psychological testing
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: and all of that is really important because it is important. Yeah,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: you need to know. And honestly, I loved doing it
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: because I'm like, I want to I want to know
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: about myself, Like I don't need the results. Yeah, I like.
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: Doing it too exactly, you know, Yeah it was fun
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: for me.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: I would love for you to just tell everyone how
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: life is now, Like are you are you happy that
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: you were on the show, and like, what were the
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: good good parts of being on the show and what
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: you've taken away to this stuff.
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: I am definitely happy that I was on the show
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: for that many years and that I chose to actually
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: accept and be on it and be a part of
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: this family.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: I don't I don't have any negativity towards d series
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: at all good? Not at all good.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: I'm glad. I mean that's good. I think it's.
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: You know, my experience, your experience. I can't say for others,
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: but it was really really good and it was learning experience,
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: I think for all of us because early. And yeah,
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: as far as my.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: Job wise, it's great. I love working for hospitals.
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: I love what I do, and I actually would just
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: like to meet somebody.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Finally, Yeah, I was just that was my next question.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: So you're still single?
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which are you actively dating? Like, are you on
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: apps or anything like that. I'm not on apps.
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: I'm constantly working, but I would like to meet somebody
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: that's free.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I just well, hey, anyone listening out
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: there who has somebody in the Northwest who is around
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: their fifties. And I was going to say, give Meredith
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: a DM, but you're not on Instagram or any social
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: are you.
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: I do have Instagram?
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: And I, oh, you do have Instagram. Okay, well I've
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: learned something new today, So yeah, give give Meredith a DM.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: We're going to set you up on the show. I'm
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: going to play match maker.
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: Okay, interest, it's your job.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: Now to find me a suitor.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Oh yes, I'm going to play matchmaker. Well you know. Okay,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: So this podcast is basically we are kind of little
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: side group sidekicks or what do you call it when
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: there's a show that takes a different path, like has
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: a different cast? Uh what do you call it? X? Yeah,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: spin off that's the word, thank you, Maddie. So it's
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: like a spin off. So Ashley and Ben have this podcast,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: the almost Famous Podcast, and we came on Bob and
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: I to talk to the ogs. So yeah, I'm I
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: were part of this bigger, almost famous podcast world, and
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: we are super grateful. So if I if I don't
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: hear from people, it's not because people are not reaching out.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: It's because I just don't. It's somebody else's podcast, do
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? But yeah, no, oh I
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: love it. What is your Instagram handle? Let's put it
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: up here just in case.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: Look, Oh she.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: Doesn't know it.
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: No, I don't know it.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: I'm always at work, so so you're on it a lot.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: I take chef chef Merety jeff ah see, there we go.
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: Chef Chef Merety. That's my real name, not I changed
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: it to Meredith. But that's my real name.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: Wait what tell me?
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Wait, your real name is Meredy Meredy Yeah, m E
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: R E d y m hm. Oh my gosh, I
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: never knew that.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of people don't.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: That's so crazy. So you changed it right before the show?
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: No, I changed it when I was sixteen because I
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: thought it sounded more official, you know, Meredith.
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: Sounds a little bit more like adult to tour.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you call yourself Meredina?
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: No, Meredith, okay, chef.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: I was like, did you go back to it?
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: I might at some point.
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, hey, whatever, lot it.
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: My friends here in the Northwest they just called me
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: Merity oor Mayor and yeah, of course of course.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I love that. I actually might. I'm gonna
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: call you Maridina. I've changing your.
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: Contact information, Meredith.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 45:40
  Speaker 6: Well.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: It was so great to catch up again reconnect. Thank
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: you so much for taking the time to chat with
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Bobby and I. I know, guys, goodbye. I'm sorry he
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: got disconnected, but now that's what.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: You so much. It was nice to catch up. Hopefully
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: we can do it again, of course.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Amazing, Thanks Meredith, Thank you.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: M