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Brandon Holthaus: Remnant Watchmen, Prophecy And The Lukewarm Church · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  I've got my brother, Pastor, Brandon Holthouse with us again, so good to reconnect with him.
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  And if you missed our tip of the spear episode, I was blessed to be on there just over a month
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  ago with Pastor Brandon.
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  There it is.
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  Brandon, with special guest, oh, no, it doesn't say special, I think you got to fix that,
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  Brandon.
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  You need to change that.
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  It was in my head.
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  I don't know why I said special.
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  Brother, good to see you.
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  Good to see you, David.
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  Thanks for having me on, my friend.
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  All right.
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  Thanks for all that you're doing.
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  You, sir, have been confronting and tackling a lot of big issues and exposing a lot of things,
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  informing people you are equipping the saints.
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  God bless you.
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  And by the way, I didn't even mention Pastor of rockharborchurch.net, rockharborchurch.net.
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  You can go to YouTube and look up tip of the spear, tip of the spear.
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  That's his podcast.
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  He talks to some great people like Alex Newman, Carl Tykrib and many others.
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  So you've got an event coming up.
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  It's actually a cruise.
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  It's going to be in October, but people better make their plans now because who's going
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  to be there?
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  Ken Michael, Mando Gonzalez, Brandon, Tom Hughes, Billy Kron, I've talked to all of these
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  brothers on a churches of revelation, Bible prophecy or Bible truth and prophecy cruise.
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  Tell us a little bit about that and where they can get info.
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  Yeah.
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  You can go to our website rockharborchurch.net and find the cruise on there.
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  And what we're going to do is we got the cast of speakers that you mentioned that while
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  we're on the cruise, we're going to be talking prophecy.
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  But then when we're on site, we're going to be doing teachings there at the locations
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  of the seven churches.
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  We're also going to do the journeys of Paul and go over and I know all of the historical
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  background, but then talk about the future background or sorry, the future implications
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  of, okay, you know, for instance, like when we get to Leo de Sia, we're going to talk
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  about the era of Leo de Sia, so to speak of, you know, the last day's church and what
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  that looks like.
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  And so it's going to be a phenomenal time.
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  So man, if people want to go, they can, they can click on that website and go on there
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  and get all the details there.
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  Awesome.
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  That just sounds so exciting, man.
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  Love Revelation 2 and 3.
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  Very insightful about what Jesus thinks about his church and at that time, he had some
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  interesting things to say to at least five of those churches, right, Pastor Brandon?
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  Yes, he did.
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  Some warnings, man, some deduques, that's for sure.
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  Yeah, you know, I wasn't planning on asking you this because it's, I mean, it's the cruise
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  and someone, one of you guys is going to talk about Leo de Sia.
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  Yeah.
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  Do you see any parallels with America and the lukewarm?
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  Are we uninformed, fearful, too busy, distracted, or are we lukewarm, or is it a combination
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  here?
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  You know, it's funny.
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  You mentioned that because, you know, if anyone studies Leo de Sia, you can see the
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  background of them that they were a very affluent church and they sold black wool that
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  made a lot of money.
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  They had a friggin' isav that they sold for money and it was a health center.
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  People got, went there for health reasons.
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  It was a commercial banking center.
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  And so the people of Leo de Sia, the church member, were very affluent and very wealthy.
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  And basically, what ended up happening is it put them in this spiritual stupor of lukewarm
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  ness.
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  And interesting enough, the parallels with that is what's going on in the West and
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  the United States with the church in the West.
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  The Western church has those same characteristics of affluent.
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  Interesting.
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  And it has put the American church to sleep because, you know, the funny thing is, it
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  put Leo de Sia asleep so bad that they didn't, they couldn't self-evaluate themselves
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  as a spiritual.
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  They thought they were blessed because they had all this money and they're doing well.
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  And man, people make that mistake too and they're lies.
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  Well, I'm materially blessed.
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  I have money.
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  I have things.
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  I must be blessed of God.
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  But then Jesus comes with his evaluation of them.
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  He says, man, you're spiritually poor, you're blind, you're naked.
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  And he dresses them down saying, you have no idea what's happened.
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  You've actually put yourself out of reality.
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  David, for goodness' sake, that's exactly what's happening here in the United States.
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  We've got the church that's totally asleep.
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  They're not fighting the real issues.
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  They think they're blessed because they've got money.
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  They're doing well.
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  And really, they're not because we're losing, well, let me put it this way.
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  We've lost the culture war because of it.
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  And so the interesting thing that I noticed is even Francis Schaefer said this back in
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  the 60s.
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  And he says, what's going to happen to America?
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  Is there, they're going to go to sleep.
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  The believers are going to go to sleep because of two things.
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  And he said, number one, the affluence.
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  And then number two, the personal peace, he mentioned.
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  And he says, personal peace is this.
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  They just want to go to their job.
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  They want to come home from their job, sit in front of the TV and do nothing.
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  And not impact the culture, not engage the culture or what not.
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  And he goes, that desire for personal peace mixed with affluence is going to be the
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  death nail for the church in America.
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  And David, that's what we're seeing.
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  Very shocking, but I guess we shouldn't be shocked.
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  No, we shouldn't.
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  And Jesus said, he'd rather have us be hot or cold.
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  But he said, if you're lukewarm, I'll spit you out of my mouth.
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  And didn't I read something about, you said peace.
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  There's another word, security or safety.
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  Yeah.
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  Peace and safety.
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  And I think it's first that's loanings.
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  But a pastor, Brandon, your ministry focuses on guiding the remnant church in the last
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  day.
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  So let's talk about that.
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  I use the word a lot.
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  And I just assume a lot of people know what it means when we say remnant, because I think
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  it's something that needs to be defined.
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  So share what distinguishes, first what it is and what distinguishes it from the mainstream
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  of Christianity.
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  Yeah.
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  What, the concept of the remnant church is what I'm pulling from even the Old Testament
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  concept of the remnant in Israel, that there were, there were, you would have the nation
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  of Israel, but there would always be a unbelieving element and then a believing element, Isaiah flushed
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  that out.
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  And then even Paul talks about the remnant of Israel in Romans chapter 9 through 11.
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  So what you start seeing in, in Chris and dumb, and I'm using that word as a broad term,
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  when Jesus gave the mystery peril, was he talked about Chris and dumb that there would
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  be wheat and tears in Chris and dumb.
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  And what we are now seeing is that division has become very obvious, because in the parable
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  as you know, David, the wheat and the tears kind of look to look the same when they're
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  growing up together.
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  And Jesus said, allow them to grow up together.
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  Well, it's not until harvest that the wheat and tears are separated.
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  And it's interesting about wheat and tears is we can distinguish a tear at the end of
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  harvest, because it'll still shoot up straight and it has this black greenish color versus
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  a head of wheat that actually is golden and bowels in submission to God.
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  And so we can only tell the difference at the end of harvest.
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  Well, interesting enough, then, so Jesus is saying there's also a remnant in the church.
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  And then when we go to the seven churches, what I like to use is there's two churches
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  that get no condemnation, but get a commendation.
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  And that is the church of Smirna, the persecuted church, and then the Philadelphia church.
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  And if you look at both of those churches, they're doing exactly what the Lord needs them
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  to do.
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  They have little resources.
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  They're being persecuted for their holding fast to His Word and not denying His name.
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  And that's what we see develop, David, that there is a smaller remnant in Chris and
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  Dumb, that Philadelphia Smirna element.
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  And then a lot of Chris and Dumb is apostate or the tears among the wheat.
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  And you know, as an example, if people say, well, what do you mean?
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  Well, when you see a transgender pastor behind the pulpit, there's a good example of a wheat
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  among the tears, okay?
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  Pastor, pastor, right?
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  Transgender, yeah, you got to put that in your quotes.
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  Exactly.
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  And then you're seeing, you know, this apostasy.
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  So the interesting thing with Leo de Sia, David, is if, and people have to understand
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  in your interpretation of the book of Revelation, you interpret the churches on an individual
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  level.
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  They will exist at all times.
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  And then what I've seen from, you know, teachers like John Walvert and Arnold Frutenbaum,
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  is you look at the seven churches and what you have is a chronology as well as for
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  the church age.
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  So basically in the chronology, the church ends in Leo de Sia with a, with a remnant
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  element of Philadelphia lasting to the end.
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  So the interesting thing is, so you have a lukewarm church, but then the Apostle Paul
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  is mentioning that in the last days of the church, there will be great apostasy.
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  And so you have this indifference attitude in the church and really shallowed out which
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  totally makes sense of why apostasy would just flourish because everyone in Christendom
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  is a mile wide and an inch deep, they don't know their Bibles.
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  That's very clear.
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  And the last study I saw from Barna, David, is 4% of Americans, 4% have a biblical worldview.
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  Well, guess what's going to happen?
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  That mixture with apostasy, it's over.
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  It goes off the chain.
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  So now we have 54% of Christendom says that they support gay marriage.
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  We now have churches even here around me locally, David, that will not talk about murdering
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  babies and how that's wrong because they say it's political.
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  And then the new, the new dividing issue is Israel.
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  We got churches that are becoming anti-Semitic.
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  I hate to say that, but it's true.
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  We got churches that are trying to stay neutral on the issue.
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  And then we have churches that fully support the Palestinians.
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  And so it's like, what do you not know the Bible and so David?
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  It's all these issues, man.
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  Well, it's got to come back to that.
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  What you just said, do you not know the Bible?
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  Didn't Jesus say to the most educated religious leaders?
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  Have you not read your own scriptures, right?
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  Didn't he say so?
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  I think a lot of, and we have to put church in air quotes sometimes now in America.
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  I'm throwing a number out there, like 70% of the churches.
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  We've got to put pastor in air quotes when you got people that are preaching things
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  that are either in abomination or clearly to find us sin and scripture.
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  Yeah.
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  But here we are.
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  And you mentioned Barna.
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  They've done the research.
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  And it's shock, I guess it shouldn't shock us at this point.
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  Knowing it's been such a gradual decline.
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  Yeah.
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  The problem is the pulpit's two, one of the side issues.
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  Not that it's a side issue, I guess.
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  What was it, only 37% of pastors have a biblical worldview, was that right?
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  Yeah, it's something to that degree.
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  And then, and that's the senior pastor, David, you go to the associate level
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  or the guy teaching the high school and junior high level.
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  Dude, it's, it's like 12%.
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  It's 12%.
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  Yeah, and they're teaching the kids.
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  Yeah, and that's the next generation.
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  So interesting that this last study with Barna,
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  what Barna noted was obviously two, he noted two problems that created this.
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  He said number one, it was the churches.
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  No doubt about that and the pulpit.
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  So the pulpit's are shallowed out in their teaching.
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  And again, David, you know, you go to some of these churches
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  and it's a motivational speech for 20 minutes.
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  Yes.
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  It's a 45 to an hour long worth of worship service.
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  And the guy gets up there and spends yarns and tell stories,
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  but he's really not exegiting the passage or whatever.
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  Yeah.
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  And so the pulpit's are failing, but then the second source,
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  the second source that Barna noted was the Christian parents.
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  And it's gotten worse every year.
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  And here's the mentality that they said, they said that the parents are raising these kids.
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  Now, the parents might be Christian, but here's how they're raising them.
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  They're letting little Bobby and Billy and Susie make their own decisions
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  on their own spirituality, that we don't really want to force our Christian views on our kids.
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  So we're just going to let little Bobby figure it out for himself.
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  And what in that crazy, you know, what Barna noted is that basically created a vacuum
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  and had the opposite effect to where these other ideologies came in and flipped the kids.
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  Yeah.
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  Synchrotism, religious pluralism, they fall for all these other issues and works and all this.
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  You know, and their social justice activists and the Christian, maybe in our quotes,
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  the Christian parents wonder, wow, why didn't my kids,
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  why weren't they brought up on the ways of the Lord?
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  Pastor Brandon Holthouse is our guest today and I love this man of God, this brother.
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  You alluded to it before and that's anti-Semitism in the growth.
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  We've seen it off the charts on steroids.
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  A new level of evil, really.
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  I don't think most people in America, especially in Christian churches,
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  thought we'd see it to the level we're seeing it on college campuses.
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  And you've discussed these things.
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  You've talked about the rise of the anti-Israel sentiment.
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  You've discussed the Biden administration's stance with Israel.
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  And how do you interpret these developments in light of Bible prophecy?
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  Well, well, you know, the interesting thing.
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  I know we can spend an hour on that.
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  Yeah, man.
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  The first off, let's just start with the marker from scripture.
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  The marker from scripture says in Zechariah chapter 12 verse 3,
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  that Israel will be isolated and hated of all nations.
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  Israel itself will become a burdensome stone.
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  And we know that that happens in the future,
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  but what's happening is the groundwork is getting set up for that.
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  And eventually, what's going to happen, David, as you know,
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  Israel's going to be so isolated.
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  They're not going to have help from the United States
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  because it says all nations will come against her.
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  So here's the dilemma that we know on the ground that's going on in Israel.
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  Israel gets its weapons from the United States.
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  And the United States is trying to tell them how to fight this war
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  and not let Israel win.
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  And they want Hamas to survive in a two-state solution,
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  which Israel's saying we're not doing.
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  And they do not want them going up to the north
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  and dealing with Hezbollah for the Biden administration.
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  And so what we got going on is some daylight is happening,
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  separation from the United States and Israel.
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  And what's going to happen is it puts Israel in a situation
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  where they're not going to have military arms, perhaps.
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  And they're going to have to look to another source
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  because the rockets in Iron Dome and David slaying
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  and all that comforting United States,
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  well, I think what we're getting ready to see in the future down the line is,
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  Israel will have to turn to someone else militarily instead of the United States.
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  And we know by prophecy, that's going to be the anti-Christ.
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  And the anti-Christ is going to be wealthy.
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  He worships the God of war or fortresses, I should say,
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  which basically has military.
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  And when you look at Isaiah 28, the passage that talks about what's inside the covenant
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  that anti-Christ does with Israel,
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  it is to protect Israel militarily from another invasion.
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  So we know where this is heading.
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  So this daylight that we're seeing between the United States and Israel,
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  this anti-Semitism is going to just continue to grow
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  to where they're isolated and they're going to need help.
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  Now, the anti-Semitism you've seen on the college campuses
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  and just globally is another spiritual aspect that has been an undercurrent for a long time.
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  And really, the anti-Semitism didn't go away after World War II.
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  It just stayed hidden because it wasn't kosher to talk about being anti-Israel or anti-Jew,
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  but it's still there.
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  Yeah.
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  What I say is this new thing that we've seen in wokeness,
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  wokeness always perpetrates a victim group and an oppressor group
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  because it's cultural Marxism.
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  Yeah.
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  And so what they've done is they've put Israel and Jewish people in the category of oppressor or white,
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  or white privilege.
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  And now has made Hamas or the Palestinians or whoever as victims,
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  even though they're terrorists, David,
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  even though these people are terrorists, they put Hamas now in the victim status.
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  And so this whole cultural Marxism has fostered this anti-Semitism.
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  And of course, then this is the outbreak on the college campuses that we see.
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  Well, again, and that comes from the K through 12.
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  They graduate.
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  They go to these universities and then it gets embedded deeper.
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  And they just think they're supposed to be social justice activists.
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  And these are the things, the talking points.
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  They know what the college is a proof of.
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  But you mentioned something, I asked you about Biden and the left
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  and the Democrats, their stance on Israel.
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  But you guys are going to be talking about this, aren't you,
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  at an event coming up in Woodland Hills, California?
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  Tell us a little bit about that.
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  Yeah, we're going to have a two-day conference, September 6th and 7th
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  in Woodland Hills, California, just about 30 miles outside of LAX airport.
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  And what we're going to do is the title of is called the geopolitical ramifications of the 2024 election
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  because whatever happens in this next election,
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  it can get really bad real quick.
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  And we have seen already how bad it is.
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  But we can see in an acceleration or a catalyst that starts putting things in place,
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  like a digital currency, a one-world government, giving our sovereignty
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  to the World Health Organization or whatever, some type of bird flu threat
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  that's going to shut down society.
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  Who knows?
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  And so we're on bringing in guys that are kind of the leading experts in their field.
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  One of your colleagues, Alex Newman, will be there.
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  And we're going to talk about, hey, what does this election mean if it goes a certain way?
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  Not just from a geopolitical standpoint, we're going to talk about that,
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  but also from a prophetic standpoint.
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  Like, what trajectory is this sending things into?
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  Okay, awesome.
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  Again, that's October.
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  You will probably have September, like I said.
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  Yeah.
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  You'll probably have information on your website very, very soon on that, rockharborchurch.net.
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  So what?
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  Brandon, what role do you see technology playing in this?
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  The fulfillment of end time prophecies, surveillance, control?
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  Speak to that for a couple of minutes.
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  Yeah.
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  What we're seeing now is that the globalist release, which are nothing more than technocrats.
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  Patrick Wood is really sharp on technocracy.
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  Yeah.
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  And so if he's the main guy, but really what was being developed is a technocratic elite.
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  And these elites think they're gods.
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  They want to be gods.
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  They want to control everything.
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  They think they're smart.
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  This comes from Plato's Republic, where you have this class of elites that are smarter
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  than everybody.
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  The King philosophers, as Plato talked about.
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  Well, these King philosophers are using technology in order to get the control.
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  So they're using AI, quantum computing, and they want to digitalize our DNA.
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  They want to digitalize it on our identifications, on our travel.
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  And then eventually a digital currency, which they're currently working on now.
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  But what is it all about, David?
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  It's all about control.
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  And Satanically, what's happening with technology is Satan cannot, he cannot do what
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  God does.
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  God has the three omnis.
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  Satan can't do that.
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  So what he does is he's using man's technology that has been developed to counterfeit the
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  omnis of controlling people from the outside and surveillance of people from, you know,
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  from even inside their bodies.
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  And so this stuff is very nefarious.
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  And they're going to sell it to everybody as this is going to give you peace and security.
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  This is going to eliminate criminals because there's going to be no under the table money.
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  We're going to know who's coming through our border, even though we're going to leave
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  our border wide open.
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  And this is just going to be sold to everybody.
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  This is going to enhance your life as for peace and security.
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  Of course.
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  So, unfortunately, it's all about tyranny, man, and authoritarian rule.
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  Yeah.
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  But we will bow the knee.
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  I mean, we saw what happened during COVID, right?
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  Oh, sure.
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  Sure.
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  We'll do that.
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  And really quick, Brandon, three and a half minutes left, how do you encourage believers
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  to maintain a healthy balance between staying informed and trusting God's sovereignty with
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  all that's going on, potentially overwhelming the stuff that's going on?
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  But we do need to be discerning trusting God's sovereignty and kind of staying informed
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  and in the word, well, it's a bittersweet aspect because you're watching your culture
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  and your society crumble right in front of you, and that's sometimes hard to grasp.
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  And that's the bittersweet thing of understanding prophecy.
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  But what we have to understand is truth and responsibility give us meaning in life.
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  We get our truth and responsibility from God.
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  Okay.
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  So, what is our job?
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  Our job is to understand what's going on and then tell the truth about it.
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  That's number one.
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  And that brings us our responsibility as a watcher on the wall.
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  So my, my admonition to Christians is you are created for such a time as this.
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  This is not a time to go into the corner and put on the white sheet and wait for Jesus
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  to come back and get you.
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  Yes, he's coming back to get us, but we have a job to do.
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  We have a responsibility.
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  And we're going to warn.
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  We're going to be like the prophet Jeremiah.
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  We're going to warn.
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  And they may not listen to us, David, but at least I will do my job of getting the word
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  out and being responsible with that.
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  So I think that's what our call.
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  It's not a time to shrink back.
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  It's a time to engage and then rescue as many on the rescue boat of Christ as we can
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  before it's too late.
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  And I love you, brother.
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  Rock Harbor Church is blessed and you're a watchman on the wall.
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  And we need more men of God like you in the pulpit and not afraid to speak to any issue
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  that's confronting the church, not being afraid to expose evil, not backing down when
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  they say you can't talk about Jesus or you can't talk about politics, right?
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  And we're so on.
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  Yeah, and they hide behind that all the time.
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  So yeah, you can talk about politics.
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  That's what we had the black rogue regimen in the revolutionary war for goodness' sake,
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  you know?
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  Yes.
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  A lot of ignorance about the Johnson Amendment and you don't mean this for another podcast.
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  Next time we've got to do two shows with you, Brandon, it's just too fast.
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  But thank you, thank you, thank you for all that you do.
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  Again, there's the Bible, truth and prophecy crews.
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  Sign up for that, guys.
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  I mean, that sounds wonderful.
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  Churches of Revelation and journeys of Paul with these five great men of God.
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  So Brandon, well, people will go to your website and check out that one coming up in
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  September.
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  Woodland Hills.
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  Yeah, we'll have it up soon.
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  It's fascinating and needed for the church to be ready for whatever might play out, but
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  keep trusting God.
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  You made a good point.
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  We are here for such a time as this.
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  And that includes you, brother.
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  You're one of the people that the men of God, I can say, you're leading.
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  You're doing your job.
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  Thank you.
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  Thank you, sir.
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  I appreciate it.
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  Thank you, David.
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  All right.
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  Keep up to good work, yourself, my friend.
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  We need you out there.
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  Lord.
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  Lord.
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  Amen.
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  We will.
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  Thanks, guys.
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  And we thank.
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  We're thankful to guests that we can have on to hopefully encourage you, hopefully edify
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  you a little bit, maybe equip you, but challenge you too.
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  That's not a bad thing to be challenged with some of these things, even if it goes
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  against something you've been taught or heard, even in the church.
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  Anyway, great stuff.
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  God bless you, friends.
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  And as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.
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  See you next time.