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KING ULTRAMEGA Keep CHRIS CORNELL’s Legacy Loud, Loved And In Very Safe Hands · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so welcome. You're part of king Ultramega, which is
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  Speaker 1: such an amazing thing for us music lovers. So tell
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  Speaker 1: the Do you want to start off with telling the
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  Speaker 1: good people here at Heavy mag a little bit about
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  Speaker 1: how king Oultramega came to be and how long it's
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  Speaker 1: been going for, and we'll get into the nitty gritty
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  Speaker 1: from there.
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  Speaker 2: Sure. Well, it kind of started during the pandemic back
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  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty Bill kellaher from Masterdon, myself, William Duval,
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  Speaker 2: and Charlie Binanti. It just jammed and really rusty cage,
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  Speaker 2: just for fun, nothing more. And then Kim heard it,
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  Speaker 2: Kim Thale, Yeah, and with him and I used to
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  Speaker 2: started talking and you know, just normal normal talk, nothing,
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  Speaker 2: nothing crazy. And then one day I asked him, Hey, man,
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  Speaker 2: you want to jam his song together? That's so cool,
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  Speaker 2: and he agreed and we did today. I tried to
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  Speaker 2: live and Charlie played drums on that. And then those
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  Speaker 2: songs sat for a few years and they are We
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  Speaker 2: sat from twenty twenty one until late twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: And that's more so on me because I didn't know
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  Speaker 2: if I wanted to go down that rabbit hole of
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  Speaker 2: the Chris cornel Va stratosphere of music. Yeah, everything that
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  Speaker 2: goes into it, because again that's a it's a daunting task.
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  Speaker 2: You're opening yourself up for a mass criticism, especially.
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  Speaker 1: With that you've got corightfully so.
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  Speaker 2: And and again they really needed to be a reason
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  Speaker 2: why would I do this and why would I put
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  Speaker 2: myself through that? And then one day was you know,
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  Speaker 2: the light bulb went off, We're going to donate all
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  Speaker 2: the money to charity, you know when and that's what
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  Speaker 2: we signed up with Music Errors and one hundred percent
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  Speaker 2: of the proceeds goes to music heres. So that and
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  Speaker 2: that was the why. That was the reason, why why
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  Speaker 2: are we doing this? And that right there?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's such an amazing cause. And I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: Querra Chris is he would be looking down and giving
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  Speaker 1: it the big tick of approval, I have no doubt.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's you say, it's such a big thing
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  Speaker 1: to come into. You know. Chris was such an incredible
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  Speaker 1: artist and just a musical genius, you know, and certainly
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  Speaker 1: one of my longtime faves, you know it was Audio
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  Speaker 1: Slave Dog sound Garden. He just was He didn't have
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  Speaker 1: a didn't have a bad run. He didn't fail, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you know, it's funny and I've been
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  Speaker 2: doing a lot of press to that, especially between New
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  Speaker 2: Zealand and Australia and can.
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  Speaker 1: I just quickly say a Quicksilver hat, nice touch for
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  Speaker 1: the Ausie.
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  Speaker 2: And it's funny. I realize during this that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Chris's music has really been one musical constant in my
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  Speaker 2: life from a very young age.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yeah, And I.
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  Speaker 2: Never realized that until very very recent going you know,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of people. You go through
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  Speaker 2: moods through music. You know, one month you're heavy into
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  Speaker 2: this band or that genre. You know, maybe a few
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  Speaker 2: you know, you get older, you don't listen to certain
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  Speaker 2: things that you listen to when you're younger, or whatever
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  Speaker 2: it might be. I realized that from a very young
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  Speaker 2: age until now. Ye know, Chris has always been that constant.
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  Speaker 2: I've never not to anything he's ever done.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I can't name any other band or musician that I
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  Speaker 2: could say I've done that with, you know which is
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  Speaker 2: and that kind of just you know, just hit of
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  Speaker 2: recent uh yeah, and I was like, wow, I never
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  Speaker 2: put never really put those together.
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  Speaker 1: And it sort of makes sense now you look at
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  Speaker 1: you had that realization why everything just works and melts
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  Speaker 1: together so well, and that.
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  Speaker 2: Was after the fact of doing all these songs. That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a reason for everything. The world works in
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  Speaker 1: mysterious ways sometimes. But I mean, like you say, you've
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  Speaker 1: you've got some pretty good support or him being part
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  Speaker 1: of it as well. And I believe there's another couple
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  Speaker 1: of other tracks. Obviously you've got in the culture Mega
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  Speaker 1: cast collaboration. You've got some MiG nose like Joe Satriani
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  Speaker 1: for example, that I've come together too on a Chris
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  Speaker 1: as well. Tell us a little bit how you managed
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  Speaker 1: to get all that happening or do they did you
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  Speaker 1: approach them or do they approach yourself?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Joe, Joe's a great example, because I
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  Speaker 2: mean I just I went on tour with Joe playing
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  Speaker 2: bass for him, and we just got off the road
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  Speaker 2: and I was listening to knowing that I was doing
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  Speaker 2: this project and that song audio sways version of that
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  Speaker 2: song came on my headphones as I was I was
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  Speaker 2: going through a jog or a run, and I kept
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  Speaker 2: hearing Joe's guitar doing doing the vocal melody, and I
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  Speaker 2: went man, that would be interesting turning this song into
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  Speaker 2: an instrumental. That's fucking crazy And what am I thinking?
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  Speaker 2: And uh, but what you hear is what was happening
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  Speaker 2: in my head on that that I remember. I'll never
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  Speaker 2: forget that afternoon. I was hearing what you're hearing. But
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  Speaker 2: trying to relay that to Joe was a difficult task
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  Speaker 2: because he thought I was crazy. He's like, what you know,
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  Speaker 2: but he was. He was awesome. I mean, he killed it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Lizzie Hall singing on two songs, she was,
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  Speaker 2: She's unbelievable. Having Matt Cameron and Kim Thale, you know,
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  Speaker 2: to have their support with this project and their backing
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  Speaker 2: is huge, and SAMs Management support, you know, the Cornella
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  Speaker 2: State support. It's it's it's been. It's been pretty awesome
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  Speaker 2: and it's definitely humbling, and I'm definitely grateful and I
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  Speaker 2: do not take it for granted. Every day, you know,
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  Speaker 2: every day the phone rings or my phone goes off,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's a different musician or whomever. It is just
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  Speaker 2: talking about Chris and you know, what we can do
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  Speaker 2: on the next track or this and that, and it's
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  Speaker 2: it's definitely it's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: It is, and he say he was so so wanted
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  Speaker 1: and so well loved and so well respected, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and more so now. And to be treating it with,
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  Speaker 1: you know, such respect and in the way that you
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  Speaker 1: have that you've got these people come on board and
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  Speaker 1: supporting a project really speaks for itself. So you've certainly
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  Speaker 1: done it.
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  Speaker 2: I have a note, so I'm in my studio right now.
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  Speaker 2: I have a note that I'm there at right here,
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  Speaker 2: and it says, do it's best for the song?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Basically that's been my mantra of don't just put anything.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I could pick up the phone and call
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  Speaker 2: somebody to play if I need somebody to play something,
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  Speaker 2: I could fill it. Yeah, But will will it be right?
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  Speaker 2: Will it be right for the song? Is it going
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  Speaker 2: to justify the song? Do they have what I'm looking for?
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  Speaker 2: Not just musically? Are they going to deliver that soul
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  Speaker 2: or whatever that particular track needs?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I believe that's why these songs are coming
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  Speaker 2: out the way they're coming out is because I've I've
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  Speaker 2: been relentless on making sure that we do what's best
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  Speaker 2: for the song, not only the musicianship, but the artwork,
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  Speaker 2: the supporting art the pr the way things read, the
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  Speaker 2: way things are presented. And it's the second part of
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  Speaker 2: that is what would Chris thinking is Yeah, Chris like it.
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  Speaker 2: You know anytime I question anything or my gut is
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  Speaker 2: like I don't know, then it's the answers. No, that's
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  Speaker 2: really what I've been doing.
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  Speaker 1: In a way, it's like he's still talking to you.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he's directing you, God in you in that sense,
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  Speaker 1: which is really cool. I know, I'm a firm believer
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  Speaker 1: that these things are are possible and do happen. And
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  Speaker 1: if you follow your instinct and don't have a doubt,
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  Speaker 1: you got judgment. You know, if that's what's telling you
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  Speaker 1: to or not to do, don't follow it.
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  Speaker 2: This project is definitely making me neurotic.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you that, because he's probably having a giggle
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  Speaker 1: as well. It's I'm welcome, you know, I'm nitpicking everything,
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  Speaker 1: and it's you know, that's what you have to do sometimes,
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  Speaker 1: I think you know what you say, you know, doing
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  Speaker 1: your rights right for the song. It's also about you
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  Speaker 1: know the person that's performing it as well. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: anyone can sound like a photocopy and reproduce something, but
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  Speaker 1: if you're genuinely invested in you know, you're being in
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  Speaker 1: your whole mindset and that it shows, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: when someone's performing and.
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  Speaker 2: It's amazing, you know, especially his solo work, when you
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  Speaker 2: really peel back the ways of those songs, Yeah, not
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  Speaker 2: only lyrically, but vocally and instrumentally. There's a lot going on,
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  Speaker 2: and more so than the solo stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely, he was very that the complex.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot going on there. And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: my first foray into that when we were recording Preaching
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  Speaker 2: the End of the World, the solo song off of
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  Speaker 2: You four in the Morning. Yeah, it was like, Wow,
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  Speaker 2: there's there's a walk going on in there. How do
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  Speaker 2: I make that different?
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  Speaker 1: You know, how do I still make it sound good?
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  Speaker 1: But obviously yeah, yeah, yeah, And.
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  Speaker 2: That's really when I started going a little bit crazy.
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  Speaker 2: We got we need not only one synth player, I
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  Speaker 2: want a piano player.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all those layers that go into it and then
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  Speaker 1: pulling out synth.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And then I would call my engineer and go,
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  Speaker 2: do you own a sway bell? And he's like, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, hear this one section. You'll hear it. You
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  Speaker 2: listen to the one section that has a sway bell. Yeh,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sitting in there just kind of I mean, these
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  Speaker 2: are and it's not in the original, so there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of these things, you know. And then just thinking
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  Speaker 2: about the Beatles for a minute, and no One Chris
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  Speaker 2: was a huge Beetle fan. This song would be cool
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  Speaker 2: to get mellotron and and a lot of the later
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  Speaker 2: Beatle recordings would used. And the mellotron is just has
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  Speaker 2: this distinctive sound.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I love that when you can hear
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  Speaker 1: those bits and pieces, you know, amazing production of work
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  Speaker 1: that you hearing your stuff every time you listen to it,
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  Speaker 1: which is great. I love those little samples, and that's
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  Speaker 1: the thing.
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  Speaker 2: I was adding things that weren't on the original, so
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  Speaker 2: I already took a complex piece of piece of music
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  Speaker 2: and made it even more complex. And then that followed
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  Speaker 2: up with Dead Wishes, which is another solo song, and
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  Speaker 2: you know when Bron delivered his vocals, Yeah, it was great.
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  Speaker 2: I'm listening. We mixed it and I go, man, I
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  Speaker 2: hear violins and cellos, yes, And it was like, who
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  Speaker 2: do I I know that plays violins and cells and
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  Speaker 2: these are the things that you know. It's just again
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  Speaker 2: it's making me norotic because I'm trying to just one
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  Speaker 2: up the next and make it the best I possibly can.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it certainly it sounds like you've definitely done that.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds it's amazing to hear you know, and and
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  Speaker 1: to know talking to the effort and this is the
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  Speaker 1: labor that's gone into it, which you know when you
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  Speaker 1: when you've dedicated and you focus it, it's I mean,
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  Speaker 1: can go wrong, but you've certainly managed to pull it off,
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  Speaker 1: which is just incredible.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully myself, I'm doing the absolute best I can to
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  Speaker 2: my ability.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that's the post important too. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: like I don't mind, you know, I'm there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of controversy public bands, tribute bands, but I think that
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  Speaker 1: they certainly have their place and you know their position
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  Speaker 1: in music, especially if it's done well and you know
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  Speaker 1: yourself coming from your own group.
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  Speaker 2: Where right, I write all the music for that. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you going from writing for all these musicians to now
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  Speaker 2: try to cover and trying to make something your own.
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  Speaker 2: But you're not trying to make it your own. You're
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  Speaker 2: trying to at least make it somewhat.
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  Speaker 1: Different compliment it, which is a different way of it together.
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  Speaker 2: Anyone, especially with technology today, anyone can make a carbon
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  Speaker 2: copy or something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. It'sploring and it's there's no passion in it,
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  Speaker 1: there's no character.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah that's not for me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree, not what I do. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: when you bring that different edge in the flat to
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  Speaker 1: it and you know, it can be done really well.
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  Speaker 1: Earlier in the year I seen from the UK. They
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  Speaker 1: were a slipknot, you know, a cover band, and what
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  Speaker 1: they brought to it. It was the same group of
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  Speaker 1: guys and they had like I think three or four
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  Speaker 1: different groups and it was just awesome. It was so cool.
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  Speaker 1: It was done really well and I just up the
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  Speaker 1: top of my head, I can't recall the name right now,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, seeing that done was just excellent, Like
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  Speaker 1: that was brilliant. That was you know, the kind of
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  Speaker 1: stuff you want to see. And it wasn't like you say,
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  Speaker 1: have a copy, but it brought that different edge and
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  Speaker 1: that engagement, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, you try. Especially that no one's playing this
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  Speaker 2: music right now, you can't hear it anywhere, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I know sound Darn's working on that last record right
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  Speaker 2: there will be that it's going to come at some point,
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  Speaker 2: but there is no there's no promotion that there's nothing
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  Speaker 2: going on for and not only Sound Darn, but Chris
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  Speaker 2: solo works, you know, or Audio Swave, Temple a Dog.
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  Speaker 2: And the fact that people are discovering this music is great.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I've actually read a bunch of comments online
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  Speaker 2: that people thought Dead Wishes was a King Al Chamega
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  Speaker 2: original song. And this is why we're here. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you need to the greatest of all, go listen to
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  Speaker 2: this record that that songs on everything. So it's cool
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  Speaker 2: that people are discovering Chris's music and hearing it for
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  Speaker 2: the first time, which.
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  Speaker 1: Is on Yeah, and it just brings that new life
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  Speaker 1: into it. And it I mean, his music was timeless anyway.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we're fortunate to be of the generation that
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  Speaker 1: we you know, we the original. We knew and loved
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  Speaker 1: it for what it was and what it is. But
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  Speaker 1: when timeless music that has life breathed into it continuously
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  Speaker 1: and it becomes like that work of art that's continuous
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  Speaker 1: is really such. That's you know, when you know you've
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  Speaker 1: you've peaked and you know, Beatles class example of that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and to know that that's Chris his inspiration
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  Speaker 1: as well, which he loved. I think a lot of
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  Speaker 1: us have as well, but they all, you know, bring
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  Speaker 1: to it something different. And some of the you know,
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  Speaker 1: artists that you speak to, what their inspiration is is
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  Speaker 1: often something that you wouldn't you know, pick, which is again,
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  Speaker 1: good music is good music regardless of what.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if you if you listen to Sound Gardens down
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  Speaker 2: on the off side record and then you immediately you
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  Speaker 2: immediately listen to his first solo record before your morning,
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  Speaker 2: right after that you could hear what Chris was going
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  Speaker 2: as a songwriter and as a musician. Here you hear
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  Speaker 2: bits and pieces that in Sound Garden on that record,
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  Speaker 2: and you know that's probably why they wed to creative
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  Speaker 2: differences and why he went solo at that time.
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  Speaker 1: Of course.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you listen to to EUPHOORI your morning and
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  Speaker 2: then covering a song off your four in the morning,
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  Speaker 2: I go, man, he was really into the Beatles because
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  Speaker 2: you're hearing, you know, I'm learning these songs and dissecting them.
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  Speaker 2: And there's these like George Harrison guitar structures on certain things.
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  Speaker 1: Literally use a star in some of those, like you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like there so many different instruments. Yeah, my favorite melodica,
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  Speaker 1: which is the piano that you blow into it's going
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  Speaker 1: to and it's coool, you know, and it's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of And that's the way you can have fun with
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  Speaker 1: it too, you know, when you get to sample all
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  Speaker 1: that there's different types of sounds and noises and and
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  Speaker 1: like you say, when you hear something and you hear oh,
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  Speaker 1: I hear violins or what have you, and you bring
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  Speaker 1: that to that, it just makes it that it's music
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  Speaker 1: that unique sound and I.
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  Speaker 2: Have I have, I have no business and I'm the
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  Speaker 2: least credential person to do that, but uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's a blessing or a curse, it all lives
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  Speaker 2: in here.
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  Speaker 1: So it's just here so described as a snapshot to
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  Speaker 1: your mindset right about.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's funny my family calls this my pet
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  Speaker 2: sounds this record because I'm just experimenting with all these
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  Speaker 2: different instruments. And what's cool is I'm learning a lot
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  Speaker 2: about myself as a musician too. What I can do,
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  Speaker 2: what I can't do, what I can do well, what
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  Speaker 2: I'm terrible at. And it's been awesome. It's been enlightening
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  Speaker 2: knowing that there and I'm pushing I'm pushing my own limits.
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  Speaker 1: What I can't do, which is yeah, you know, getting
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  Speaker 1: stepping outside your square of a new comfort zone and
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  Speaker 1: finding and discovering new things. And you say new book
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  Speaker 1: talents and maybe not so talents that you can maybe
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  Speaker 1: you can prove and work on down the track. But
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  Speaker 1: it's I always say, you know that the day that
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  Speaker 1: you stopped learning something new every day and new knowledge
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  Speaker 1: and information is you know, that's how you keep brain alive,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to the day I die. I want to
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  Speaker 1: realize something you every day.
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  Speaker 2: If you were have asked me, a younger version of
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  Speaker 2: me that if I would be on a song with
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  Speaker 2: an orchestra.
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  Speaker 1: No, yeah, but what a beautiful thing. You know those
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  Speaker 1: And there's a band I'm actually going to send them
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  Speaker 1: tonight later in the year, you am. I It was
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: a great straying band. They've just announced they're coming with
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: a string quartet later in the year, which is I
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: love beautiful.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: And I love the strings now, I love it. I
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: love hearing them. And again I went to go see
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: this this beetle. It was a stringed quartet doing beetle
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: covers just about a year ago. A year and a
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: half ago. Wasn't it this old church in Brooklyn beautiful?
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: It was just all church with candles? What up? And
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: it was it was a stand up bass player, two
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: cellos and two violin playing and I was like, oh,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: this is amazing, this is And that was kind of
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: probably what kickstarted my The song needs violin.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's almost it's like, you know, it's it's
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: a hauntingly beautiful sound when you get that, you know,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: just for me, I goos just thinking about it, because
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: it's just that it's encompassing. It's it's amazing in.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: All words were back to the Beatles, right, So.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: It's all three chords and a lie. It's so true,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: you know, And and the best stuff is that, you know,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: it can be often some of the most simple as well.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Obviously you know, having that complex and those layers and
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: those samples that make some a piece, you know, that's
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: often that's done in the after production and what at
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: that time. But you know, the core roots of what
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: makes a good song a good song is yeah, a
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: good riff, a good hook, sorry, good some good rifts
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: and some you know, often simple lyrics that people remember
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: and then look back to. It's I get into that
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: you know, allows for I think creatively, you know, to
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: be expanded on and to be reworked. So it's you know,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: you've put all that effort into going through all the
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: define of details of finding what you can do and
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: what fits and what makes it sound good. Is it's
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: no mean feat That's for sure. If anyone being in
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: their recording studio and know what goes into a production
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: of just one song is yeah, it's hours and hours
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: and sixty odd versions of one track.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: And not only that you're release we're releasing each song
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: as a single.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah wow, that's cool.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, most records, you you know, you release one, two,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: maybe three singles, yeah, and then a full length record
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: and you do promotion around a record. We're treating each
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: song like it's its own record.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I guess because you've got different artists on
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: each song as well too soon.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Only that it's in my opinion, when I signed this Deer,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: it was it was all about each song. You can't
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: just release one, two or three songs, put out a
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: record and forget about the.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Rest, you know, I know, so much more goes into it,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: like you know, promotion.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: These songs need to be highlighted they need their own
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: time to just fester and sit and and bang the
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: drum with each song. Yeah, and in the label has
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: been great, I mean they've been awesome. Our publicity publicity
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: team has been phenomenal from the States and then John
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: down there.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: And yeah, we love he's a a weapon.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Everyone's been everyone's been super supportive and awesome in helping
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: me just kind of bang bang this drum.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, it's an absolute credit to yourself. So crudeos,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: well done. No, that's all. It's good. So with the
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: album that you've got to and you say there's no profit,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: all the money is being donated to music here, do
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: you want to tell the listeners a bit about what
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: they do and in terms of support.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Sure, they're The Recording Academy is non for profit and
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: the Recording Academy is the Grammys. Basically, they help anyone
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: and everyone within the musical industry, whether it's you're a musician, songwriter,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: guitar player, vocalist, drummer, guitar player, business manager, guitar technician.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: With you know, they'll do disaster relief for them to
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: rehab to mental health awareness too. If you need help,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: they're there. For you, and they're all Chris was a
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: big supporter of theirs when he was alive. You know,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Kim has been a long time big supporter. That's why
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: we chose them, because him and Chris both did a
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: lot with them and do a lot with them. And
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: it came at the suggestion of Kim, you know, when
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: we were trying to decide who who is the what
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: is it? You know what we I didn't nowhere to
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: go and then Kim is the want to suggest the
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: music here.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Oh that's even better. That's that's such a beautiful honor.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: And as you say, no doubt Chris would be very
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: happy to know that that's happening. And yeah, music here,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: that's what a great what a great non prefferit. That's
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: musicians everywhere that you know, it's it's a tough gig,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: and you know, when you're doing it professionally and you
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: know it the peaks and troughs and you fall on
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: those hard times and so many things you know can
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: come in and effect in you. And being the creative type,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: we're all I think a bit more susceptible to her.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: You know, those everything's a bit more magnified and you're
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: emotionally wise, and you're coping when things aren't good, and
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: just to know that they've got that support is really
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: quite critical.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Everything.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, everything, Yeah, So definitely more more power to them
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: and good people like yourselves being able to do that.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: It's certainly very credible, which is again well done. So
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: get plans to bring it on tour or is that
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: still in there? They're still in there the pipeline. Oh,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: asking exclusive questions that you gotta answer.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: That's the million dollar question. I can't even if I
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: had a nickel for every time someone asked me when
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: we're gonna tour King Ultramega. There's a demand for it,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: I just would I wouldn't know how to do it.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: And it's not even logistics, it's you know, musically, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: what's going on. It's not just Soundgarden, right works, it's
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: it's everything.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: You need to find the band willing to learn all
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: these types of music and to play them correctly, and
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: then you need and then you need one of those
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: singers or vocalists to step up, not just to sing one,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: but a set worth of cornell. And that is not
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: an easy I never say never. Yeah, that's no we'll
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: see what happens and we'll transpire and yeah, I'm hoping
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: in a perfect world that there is a show or two. Yeah,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: that would be awesome.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I just who knows when and where though, Yeah, And
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: in the meantime we'll just enjoy enjoy the music as
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: it is with the album, which is again congratulations.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Well done, thank you. I appreciate it.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, very happy to have a chat with you. So
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: thank you for having a chat with us today here
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: at Heavy. We better let you get back to the
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: rest of your Thursday evening. Did you say it was
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: there is a night now, Yeah, the exact time difference,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: but yeah, so I'm off to enjoying what's left for
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: the day and try and sort myself out and then
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: off to a gig tonight. So it just never any
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: rocks out hours. They're fine, aren't they.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: I appreciate everything and thank you for the support.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Likewise, we appreciate you having a chat Mark you, take
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: care and all the best. Bye.