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Ross Fulton Analysis: How Oregon Will Try To Attack Ohio State · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to buck Eyes tomorrow morning. You're Saturday, October twelfth.
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  Speaker 1: Them your host Tom Moore. The Oregon game is today,
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  Speaker 1: the game against Michigan in forty nine days. We have
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  Speaker 2: This is the third Ross Fulton show of the week.
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  Speaker 1: Normally we give you one on offense, one on defense,
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  Speaker 1: but with it being at number two versus number three,
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  Speaker 1: I want to take a look at some of the
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  Speaker 1: stuff that Oregon does.
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  Speaker 2: So all right, let's.
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  Speaker 1: Ross start with the Oregon offense. I've seen the numbers
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  Speaker 1: every week. Everyone always want to talk offense. Offense is
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  Speaker 1: much more fun than defense. I get it. So let's
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  Speaker 1: start with the Oregon offense. It feels like we'll sign
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  Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator for Oregon. He does a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the same stuff that Ohio State does, just kind of
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  Speaker 1: more so.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw a stat I think it was from
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  Speaker 3: Parker Fleming, one of the advanced stat guys.
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  Speaker 4: If I'm wrong about that, I apologize.
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  Speaker 3: It was like, you know, Ohio State, I think it
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  Speaker 3: like run on twenty eight percent of their plays were
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  Speaker 3: like an RPO relief concept, and I think Oregon's like
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  Speaker 3: in the forties, so it's taking like Ohio State's offense
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  Speaker 3: and just like doubling that, Whereas like I think Ohio
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  Speaker 3: State uses those RPOs to like create space for the
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  Speaker 3: run game and the downfield passing able typeout that Like Oregon,
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  Speaker 3: it's like the feature right, it's like really what they
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  Speaker 3: want to lean into. And so like will Stein, as
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  Speaker 3: you mentioned, like you know, similar to Chip Kelly, similar
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  Speaker 3: to Ryan Day, Like you know, he'll use a lot
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  Speaker 3: of like trip sets, a lot of tight bunch, a
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  Speaker 3: lot of motion to diagnose coverages. You know, this first
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  Speaker 3: play that I diagrammed, I mean straightforward right, Like I
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  Speaker 3: just want to like set the tone like you're going
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  Speaker 3: to see a lot of this, right, like get a trip,
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  Speaker 3: getting trips. It's just like your typical inside zone with
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  Speaker 3: a bubble screen. They will happily take the extra yards,
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  Speaker 3: happy to get the ball to their wide receivers quickly
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  Speaker 3: on the perimeter and try to get yards after catch.
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  Speaker 4: Again.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, as I said, I think it just take
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  Speaker 3: take what you think about, like all the RPOs and
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  Speaker 3: reliefs that we've talked about from Ohio State and double that, right.
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  Speaker 3: It's just like it's not just one component of the offense.
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  Speaker 3: It's like the main course.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: So that's kind of the broad strokes of what to
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  Speaker 1: expect Weregan. I think a lot of how this game
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  Speaker 1: is going to go is going to be dependent on
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  Speaker 1: who can run the ball, which team can run the
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  Speaker 1: ball better.
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  Speaker 2: And Morgan has a pretty good running back, Jordan James.
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  Speaker 1: He kind of tore up the Michigan State defense a
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  Speaker 1: little bit last week.
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  Speaker 2: What kind of a threat can he pose against the
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  Speaker 2: Buck Eyes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm pretty impressed with him, you know, I will say,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Oregon's interior offensive line was there's been some
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  Speaker 3: question marks they reshuffled after the first couple of games.
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  Speaker 3: I can't say that I'm still like really impressed with
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  Speaker 3: their interior offensive line. I think they're they're playing at
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  Speaker 3: a better level. I'm just not sure they have the
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  Speaker 3: athleticism that you would expect, like compared to like Ohio
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  Speaker 3: State's offensive line. And so, you know, but I do
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  Speaker 3: think that what Oregon they're not just yes, they want
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  Speaker 3: to get the ball out on the perimeter quickly, and
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  Speaker 3: that's a big component of what they do, but they
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  Speaker 3: do in part want to do it to open up
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  Speaker 3: run lanes inside and Jordan James, as I said, I
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  Speaker 3: think he's an impressive running back, and so, like you know,
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  Speaker 3: this second concept is again you're like, now they run
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  Speaker 3: this like little this is a GT counter and it's
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  Speaker 3: not just like Insids. Like they have a very varied
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  Speaker 3: run game, right that they that also is in common
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  Speaker 3: with Chick Kelly. Like you know, you'll see inside zone,
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  Speaker 3: you'll see a lot of stretch from the pistol. They
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  Speaker 3: use that prett effectively against Michigan State, You'll see, you know,
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  Speaker 3: but you'll also see a lot of gap schemes, a
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  Speaker 3: lot of counter, a lot of a lot of they
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  Speaker 3: Brent Dart where you pull the tackle and run power.
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  Speaker 3: They run power, so you get a lot of especially
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  Speaker 3: on the inside, a lot of gap runs and.
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  Speaker 4: So you know here they just run a little arrow.
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  Speaker 3: Again like Dylan Gabriel's reading the backside, he gives on
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  Speaker 3: the you know, the backside. Defensive end and linebacker stay
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  Speaker 3: home on this one. So he gives and again they're
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  Speaker 3: happy to run the football. I think what's interesting to
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  Speaker 3: me is we've seen Ohio State, and we've talked about
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  Speaker 3: this a little bit. We've seen how to State defend
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  Speaker 3: our po heavy teams and put two pretty distinct ways
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  Speaker 3: this year. You know, there's the Marshall example that we
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  Speaker 3: talked about where they played a lot of cover four right.
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  Speaker 3: So like if Marshall was like in two by two open,
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  Speaker 3: so you know, you have two four wide receivers, two
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  Speaker 3: on each side, they would basically get you know, three
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  Speaker 3: over two. As we talked about, like walk the linebackers out,
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  Speaker 3: you take away the RPOs with numbers right like like
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  Speaker 3: this UCLA example, like they're not going to play pull
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  Speaker 3: it through the relief because they don't have the numbers.
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  Speaker 3: Then you're putting down a person in the box right,
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  Speaker 3: And so that gets into back to my conversation like
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  Speaker 3: the when when honestly played Marshall, they did not obviously
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  Speaker 3: have Tyler Williams. He is a difference maker inside. So
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  Speaker 3: do they feel like they can play down a man
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  Speaker 3: in the box or put your your linebackers in conflict
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  Speaker 3: and count on the defensive interier to win. I think
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  Speaker 3: the other option is like that clip we showed earlier
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  Speaker 3: this week against Iowa, or you play cover one that
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  Speaker 3: takes away the conflict on the RPOs reliefs. You cover
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  Speaker 3: everyone up, then you can let your safeties, you know,
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  Speaker 3: play downhill, which where Caleb Downs and Latham Ranson are
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  Speaker 3: so good. I think you'll probably see a combination of
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  Speaker 3: both because the problem is, as we'll get to you
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  Speaker 3: here in a little bit, like if you play cover
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  Speaker 3: one all the time, will Stein's happy to run like
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  Speaker 3: Mesh and pick plays and other things, and like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you don't want to be like Alabama last week against Vanderbilt.
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  Speaker 3: I posted something on bucke Huddle where like you know,
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  Speaker 3: like anything else defense these days, if you're super predictable
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  Speaker 3: defense as well, our offenses will take advantage of it.
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  Speaker 3: So I think you're gonna have gonna see a mix
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  Speaker 3: and match of those. But I do think you'll see
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  Speaker 3: probably more aggressiveness than they showed against a Marshall, but
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  Speaker 3: you know it's going to have to be somewhere in between.
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  Speaker 3: And as I said, like Jim Knowles has changed up
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  Speaker 3: to teams running man beaters, is to try to trick
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  Speaker 3: them and run zone when they think there's man. So
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  Speaker 3: I think you'll see that cat and mouse game going on.
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  Speaker 1: The Oregon offense is interesting because they've got a quarterback
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  Speaker 1: in Dylan Gabriel who's very good at certain stuff, but
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  Speaker 1: it's only certain stuff, and they do the things they're
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  Speaker 1: good at to a degree that seems like it's pretty
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  Speaker 1: unique where he throws a lot to one side of
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  Speaker 1: the field, and he throws a lot kind of close
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  Speaker 1: to the line of.
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  Speaker 2: Scrims, not a lot of stuff further down the field.
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  Speaker 1: That feels like that's helpful because one of their goals
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  Speaker 1: is to get the ball out in two and a
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  Speaker 1: half seconds, and if you're not running the long route,
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  Speaker 1: sure that's great to get the ball out into and
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  Speaker 1: a half seconds, but it also feels like it's kind
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  Speaker 1: of it so can you kind of walk us through
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  Speaker 1: what to expect from the organ passing offense on Saturday Night.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that, as I said, unlike Ohigh State,
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  Speaker 3: Like you know, there's been some consternation, as we've discussed
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  Speaker 3: among Ohio State fans about Will Howard's ability to throw
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  Speaker 3: the football downfield, But I don't think there's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of question of like that mid range intermediate passing game, right,
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  Speaker 3: Like we see that every week.
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  Speaker 4: Will Howard's very accurate there. With Oregon, that's sort of
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  Speaker 4: been missing.
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  Speaker 3: They run a lot of, as I said, a lot
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  Speaker 3: of perimeter stuff, a lot of quick game, and they'll
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  Speaker 3: take shots if you give them the one on one.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I don't know how effective it is, but
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  Speaker 3: they will take shots. They hit a couple, but they
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  Speaker 3: really don't have like that mid range game, right. So
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  Speaker 3: like this play for instance, this is a little snag
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  Speaker 3: concept which is also a Chip Kelly Ryan Day favorite,
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  Speaker 3: where you run, you know, the one receiver sort of
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  Speaker 3: runs a little curl, the inside receiver runs a corner route,
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  Speaker 3: and then you run a running back to the flat
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  Speaker 3: and you get kind of a triangle read. This is
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  Speaker 3: all even dressed up even more where they have the
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  Speaker 3: tight end again, like you know, they send a guy
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  Speaker 3: in motion to try to get you know, pre snap
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  Speaker 3: read for the quarterback. Again like a chip Kelly Staple
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  Speaker 3: will sty will use a lot of motion, but then
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  Speaker 3: they use the tight end on as a lead blocker
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  Speaker 3: here and so it adds like a running back swing
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  Speaker 3: screen element to the snag concept.
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  Speaker 4: So again, like a lot of quick game, a lot
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  Speaker 4: of underneath stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I do think ferguson the tight end like has been,
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  Speaker 3: they've hit some big plays off of using him off
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  Speaker 3: the run action. So that's another threat to worry about.
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  Speaker 3: But like I do, I will say worry about with
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  Speaker 3: all these underneath games, picking on the Ohio State linebackers
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  Speaker 3: in coverage, particularly sunny styles, like we've talked about that
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  Speaker 3: against Michigan State. They eliminated some of that conflict last
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  Speaker 3: week by using him on pressure schemes more so, I
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  Speaker 3: guess that's another benefit of playing cover rue is you
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  Speaker 3: can you know, slit styles or green dog him to
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  Speaker 3: sort of take him out.
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  Speaker 4: Of that zone.
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  Speaker 3: But you know it's not styles as Hault like he's
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  Speaker 3: basically spent the last two weeks playing overwhelmingly as a
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  Speaker 3: four to three SAM linebacker, and so presumably, like Oregon
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  Speaker 3: is not a heavy two tight end twelve personnel team.
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if they use a little bit
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  Speaker 3: of it to see how a high to save response.
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  Speaker 3: And do they bring in three linebackers or you know,
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  Speaker 3: Jim Knowles back when he's in the Big twelve used
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  Speaker 3: to call it like fake twelve and he wouldn't take
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  Speaker 3: his nickel off the field. But you know, so do
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  Speaker 3: they keep Jordan Hancock out there? But this is gonna
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  Speaker 3: be a heavy Jordan Hancock game. So all that's to
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  Speaker 3: say is like, presumably that means that you're moving Cody
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  Speaker 3: Simon back to Mike in sunny styles, to back to
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  Speaker 3: Will and he has you know, hasn't played there basically
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  Speaker 3: for two weeks, I mean limited snaps.
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  Speaker 4: So again you sort of those underneath zones.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we've talked about the issues matching, so I
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  Speaker 3: think at a minimum, when Organ hits these underneath routs,
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  Speaker 3: you have to tackle well, right, Like that is one
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  Speaker 3: of the benefits that I say it has is with
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  Speaker 3: Kale Downs and Lathan Ranson, they have limited things from
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  Speaker 3: becoming big explosives.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: But I do think that if I'm Oregon, my game
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  Speaker 3: plan probably starts with trying to target the linebackers, try
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  Speaker 3: to get them in conflict, being aggressive off of you know,
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  Speaker 3: heavy play action, getting the ball out under in these
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  Speaker 3: like sort of underneath middle zones, and see how well
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  Speaker 3: they handle coverage.
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  Speaker 1: Well, seeing how well the Buck guys handle coverage, now
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about how well the organ ducts you're going
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  Speaker 1: to handle coverage. Kirby Smart obviously has been had a
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  Speaker 1: big influence on Dan Lanning. Lanning came from Georgia to
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  Speaker 1: Oregon a couple of seasons back, and being a Kirby
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  Speaker 1: Smart guy, obviously that could be a very good thing.
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  Speaker 1: Kirby Smart has had a very successful run as the
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  Speaker 1: head coach of the Georgia Bulldogs and was a pretty
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  Speaker 1: darn good defensive coordinator and a Nick save been at
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  Speaker 1: Alabama before that.
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  Speaker 2: But there are also ways where Kirby.
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  Speaker 1: Smart's defenses can you can get gut there and in
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  Speaker 1: some of those cases as well, what's something that Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State offense can maybe look out for on Saturday night.
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  Speaker 3: In that in that kind of area, Yeah, and you'll
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  Speaker 3: get a lot as I said, you know, not identical
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  Speaker 3: to Georgia certainly, or what Nick Saban has done in
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  Speaker 3: the past, but a lot of the same influence that
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  Speaker 3: comes in a couple of ways. They run a ton
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  Speaker 3: of coverages in the back end. So the good news
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  Speaker 3: with that obviously is you give yourself a lot of options.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: The downside to that is you the more you know,
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  Speaker 3: you become a jack of all trades, master of none.
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  Speaker 3: And especially like when teams like Michigan State will do
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  Speaker 3: in this clip, we're gonna We're gonna show like uses motion.
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  Speaker 3: You'll see a lot of checking in the in the secondary.
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  Speaker 3: They have to adjust a lot to motion. That opens
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  Speaker 3: up some opportunities downfield. Like I thought Michigan State had
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  Speaker 3: open receivers and just wasn't able either to protect upfront
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  Speaker 3: and or just aid and Childs was not seeing it.
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  Speaker 3: The other thing that they do is again we've talked
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  Speaker 3: about how I State planning a four to three against
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  Speaker 3: twelve personnel, right, Oregon likes to go to this three
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  Speaker 3: four odd front against twelve personnel, which is a long
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  Speaker 3: time Kirby smart in before that Nick Stave and Staple,
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  Speaker 3: and so you get a legit zero technique noseguard right
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  Speaker 3: over the center. You get two four eyes, so that
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  Speaker 3: they're sort of inside the outside shoulder of each guard,
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  Speaker 3: two outside linebackers. So what Michigan State did like on
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  Speaker 3: this clip is they went to a lot of twelve.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously they played a lot of twelve against Ohio State,
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  Speaker 3: so it fits what they would do, but to throw
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  Speaker 3: the football right, and we've seen Ohio State do that
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  Speaker 3: some as well. So like a Mega Bucas third touchdown
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  Speaker 3: catch gets Iowa up. That was like a tight bunch
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  Speaker 3: twelve personnel. So they got Iowa with three linebackers on
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  Speaker 3: the field and then got a Mecha Buka singled up
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  Speaker 3: on a wheel route on a linebacker. So I think
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  Speaker 3: you'll see quite a bit of using twelve personnel and
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  Speaker 3: motion to mess with the checks and the coverage. I think,
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  Speaker 3: you know, in terms of Chip Kelly handling the odd front,
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  Speaker 3: I think you're going to see, you know, those leave
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  Speaker 3: you can see out here like a bubble, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the bubble between the four eye and the outside linebacker.
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  Speaker 3: So I think you'll see you know, leaning into Will
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  Speaker 3: Howard on zone read run concepts where you're you're reading
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  Speaker 3: the four.
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  Speaker 4: I like a midline.
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  Speaker 3: You're kicking out the defensive end effectively and you create
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  Speaker 3: a whole off the read that Chip Kelly, you know,
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  Speaker 3: full belly full play where you pull the center set
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  Speaker 3: mclaughland against the odd front, you get outside the three
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  Speaker 3: defensive linemen. Now, I will say, when you go eleven personnel,
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  Speaker 3: they tend to, like Kirby Smart, go to more of
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  Speaker 3: a four two five look and then they'll they'll they'll
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  Speaker 3: be off, you know, shaded on single gaps like Ohio
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  Speaker 3: State does. So I think you'll see, you know, Ohio
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  Speaker 3: State play with motion, play with shifts. Uh, these bunch
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  Speaker 3: sets twelve personnel trying to get Orgon in into you know,
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  Speaker 3: disadvantageous matchups. And the last thing I'll add is even
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  Speaker 3: though I, as I said, I felt like Michigan State
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  Speaker 3: and UCLA before that ad opportunities downfield against you know,
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  Speaker 3: again trying to pass off receivers in the lake and
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  Speaker 3: on cover four that Oregon I don't think was super
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  Speaker 3: successful doing. They just weren't the opponent wasn't successful, uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, diagnosing and picking it apart statistically, like Oregon
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  Speaker 3: hasn't been great against the run either. So I think that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, obviously, Chip Kelly is going to want to
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  Speaker 3: make sure to establish the run. This is going to
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  Speaker 3: be probably the first game where you get a full
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  Speaker 3: dose of Quinn, Shawn Jenkins, and Travon Henderson. I mean
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  Speaker 3: I would look for you know, Junkins to be more
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  Speaker 3: in the eighteen to twenty carry range this game, and
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  Speaker 3: I think you'll see them try to, you know, open
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  Speaker 3: up opportunities through formations. As I said, get the ball
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  Speaker 3: out and then turn back to the running game inside.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well, that sounds like a formula for potentially
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  Speaker 1: a winning name for Ohio State and Buck guys heading
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  Speaker 1: into the game as about a field goal favorite should.
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  Speaker 2: Be a fantastic game.
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  Speaker 1: We're just over at campus at Austin State and get
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  Speaker 1: a chance to tend to take a peek inside. It
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  Speaker 1: is a just incredible venue, very picturesque, very unique venue.
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  Speaker 1: Very much looking forward to seeing a game there on
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  Speaker 1: Saturday night. Guess and you guys are as well, Buck
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