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Working Yourself to Death, Literally · TMI

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  Speaker 1: That's how we owned it. What's her Family's your girl
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  Speaker 1: to make a d mallory and it's your board in general,
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  Speaker 1: and we are your hosts of street politicians, the places
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  Speaker 1: in the streets and politics. Me, what's going on? I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like glued glued glued to the TV today. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: what's happening now has to do with Steve Bannon, um,
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  Speaker 1: which is a whole different set of circumstances. But the
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  Speaker 1: Kyle Rittenhouse trial is happening. Obviously, folks know, we tape
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  Speaker 1: a couple of days before the episode actually airs, and
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  Speaker 1: so today, um, the information maybe a little bit different
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  Speaker 1: and maybe a little delayed from what was actually taking
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  Speaker 1: place at the time that we uh take this episode.
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  Speaker 1: But we watched as uh the weapons charges, most of
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  Speaker 1: the weapons charges were thrown out of the caves, and
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  Speaker 1: so some how another decision was made that the weapons
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  Speaker 1: that Kyle Rittenhouse had with him were inadmissible in this
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  Speaker 1: in the in the trial, but particularly in the closing
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  Speaker 1: arguments and in terms of what the jury instructions are
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  Speaker 1: for what they can take back with them after closing arguments.
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  Speaker 1: I do not understand, and I know I'm not a lawyer,
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  Speaker 1: and I haven't had a chance today to have a
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  Speaker 1: conversation with lawyers and understand. But I'm on text threads
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  Speaker 1: with a number of legal professionals and and lawyers, and
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  Speaker 1: I don't see anybody given an explanation that makes sense
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  Speaker 1: about this at all, because it doesn't make sense, man,
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  Speaker 1: because you know, it's the same old and what we
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  Speaker 1: call the kangaroo court man that we we We've seen,
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  Speaker 1: We've witnessed it. We I've been involved in it. I've
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  Speaker 1: been a victim of these kangaroo courts, and it always
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  Speaker 1: seems that, you know, some people have the complexion for
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  Speaker 1: the protection and it does. It just really makes no
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  Speaker 1: sense that we even have to have these conversations and
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  Speaker 1: constantly keep seeing these injustices you know, occur, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and people get mad when we say we don't have
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  Speaker 1: faith in the system, like when when people just don't
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  Speaker 1: care about the system and we want to we want
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  Speaker 1: to believe that there's a system that works, that there's
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  Speaker 1: a system of accountability, there's a system with fan and
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  Speaker 1: equal treatment, that everyone is created equally and all these things,
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  Speaker 1: but it just doesn't happen that way. And this is
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  Speaker 1: a classic example. You we've seen it writing on the
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  Speaker 1: war from the beginning with this situation, how a majority
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  Speaker 1: of white America has supported this man and embrastim well,
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  Speaker 1: listen to me. He had he had a go fund
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  Speaker 1: me that raised how much money, I don't know, but
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  Speaker 1: it was a lot. There was a lot of money.
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  Speaker 1: So you understand I'm saying, and you won't see what left.
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  Speaker 1: There have been a black man, they would have threw
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  Speaker 1: him under the jail go fund me. They would have
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  Speaker 1: funded his ass into jail, and he would have still
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  Speaker 1: been in jailed. You probably would have got killed because
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  Speaker 1: he would have never made it back home at all anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, this is the
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  Speaker 1: things that we're dealing with, and once again another attrocity man.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, let's just hope again. By the time
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  Speaker 1: this episode airs, Um, I hope that the closing arguments
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  Speaker 1: are finished and that the jury has made a decision
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  Speaker 1: to convict Um Kyle Rittenhouse of murder. I don't even
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  Speaker 1: know what all his charges are, but I know he
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't walk free Um. And I think his mother should
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  Speaker 1: also face some charges because she had her son in
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  Speaker 1: the car bringing him across state lines with weapons that
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  Speaker 1: she knew he was not supposed to have and then
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  Speaker 1: he goes out and kills Now in our situation, right,
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  Speaker 1: first of all, if you put your child in the
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  Speaker 1: school that is outside the school district, you can do
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  Speaker 1: five years. Like our sister Crystal Mason. Um, it's something.
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  Speaker 1: It's someone that that was accountable for her actions right
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  Speaker 1: related to her child going to school somewhere that she
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  Speaker 1: should not have gone and in fact, her father lived
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  Speaker 1: in the district. Right, you have situations where because of
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  Speaker 1: a child's truancy, parents are picked up and arrested. I
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  Speaker 1: just would love to see the numbers. Some people will argue, old,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Tamika, you know it happens to everybody. It's
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  Speaker 1: not just okay, We'll show me the numbers. Show me
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  Speaker 1: how many white families where their children cut school have
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  Speaker 1: been arrested for the truancy of their child. I want
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  Speaker 1: to see it. If it's if it compares. Maybe I'm wrong,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't think so. I don't think so. Even man,
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  Speaker 1: I look at my my case. You know, I got
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  Speaker 1: convicted of a gun that I never had, that nobody
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  Speaker 1: else found, never seen. I got convicted of a weapons
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  Speaker 1: and sentenced to to two to four years for a
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  Speaker 1: weapon that was never found or even seen ever anything.
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  Speaker 1: Four years we were talking about two to four. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was part. That was you know, there was one
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  Speaker 1: of the charges, but the robbery charges superseded that because
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  Speaker 1: it was the highest count. So it was it was
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  Speaker 1: four to eight, and then it was three, three to six,
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  Speaker 1: and and then under the underneath charges with weapons possessions
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  Speaker 1: two to four years for weapons possession and it's two
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  Speaker 1: to four. So the highest counts they add those two together,
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  Speaker 1: the three to six and for the eight to get
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  Speaker 1: my sentence to hide. The lower counts were superseded, but
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  Speaker 1: I was sentenced to two to four years for weapons
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  Speaker 1: possession that never never had and nobody ever saw, never anything.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's kind of that. Well, you don't see not
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  Speaker 1: understanding you have to understand the legal system, because I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure going into it you had no idea about this
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  Speaker 1: and this layer and that and the judge and all
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  Speaker 1: the things that happen with your attorney. And so I'm
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  Speaker 1: just saying that in in in in these situations, it
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  Speaker 1: seems like to your point that they that white people
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  Speaker 1: have a complexion for protection, Like you said, that's it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's That's that's my thought. But tell me
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  Speaker 1: what this sweatshirt means that you have on to that.
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  Speaker 1: It means, it means fuck it. If you don't care,
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  Speaker 1: if I don't you know, if you've got a problem
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  Speaker 1: with me, fuck you, fuck it, fuck you, fuck it.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, anybody, So everybody that has
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  Speaker 1: the problem with you is you put a post s
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  Speaker 1: up yesterday right that resonated. You know, I'm very stubborn,
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  Speaker 1: very stubborn, a very prideful, have a lot of ego.
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  Speaker 1: I hate to, you know, my name to be talked about.
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  Speaker 1: I hate to be discredited. I hate somebody allowing me
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  Speaker 1: a lot of things that I have, certain things that
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  Speaker 1: you know, I take pride. And then you know, the
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  Speaker 1: post that you put up yesterday just resonated with me,
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  Speaker 1: and I wanna what did it say? It's said this,
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  Speaker 1: and it really just made me think, you know, after
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  Speaker 1: you always say it, you know, I'm I'm kind of
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  Speaker 1: hard headed. I don't listen to ship most of the time.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes I'd be like, man, I don't do what I
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  Speaker 1: want to do, and I'm gonna do what I want
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  Speaker 1: to do most of the time. But when you said
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  Speaker 1: I stopped beating with people when I realized they felt
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  Speaker 1: important being an enemy. That was like the realest thing.
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  Speaker 1: I realized that there are people who just you acknowledging
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  Speaker 1: them as an adversary, not even saying their name, but
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  Speaker 1: just the fact that they feel that you acknowledge them
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  Speaker 1: as someone who is even equal to be adversary or
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  Speaker 1: accounter anything to what is that you do gives them
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  Speaker 1: some level of power. And I said, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: at this point, I've done, I've exhausted. I've done whatever
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  Speaker 1: I had to do in anybody that's not on my
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  Speaker 1: my own wavelength, that's not about progression, that's not doing
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  Speaker 1: any work that's I can't benefit from, I can't even
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  Speaker 1: allow to have space in my mind, you know. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm turning over a new leaf. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: engaging in discourse with people that I don't even deserve discourse,
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  Speaker 1: you know. I'm not engaging in anything with somebody that's
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  Speaker 1: not helping me grow or I'm not helping grow. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, this shirt symbolizes where I'm at, fucking fuck you,
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  Speaker 1: fuck it, you know. And my hat my new hat honorable,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because that's that's what it is. I believe
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  Speaker 1: I am. So this represents my whole moved right now,
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  Speaker 1: fuck you because I'm honorable. Listen, I have nothing to say,
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  Speaker 1: and today the course protect black people. Yeah, that's right,
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  Speaker 1: I have my mind. Well, I put this on today
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  Speaker 1: because when I woke up, I realized then with two
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  Speaker 1: trials happening in two different places across this damn country,
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  Speaker 1: and both of them are incredibly painful for black people
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  Speaker 1: in the Kyle ritten House matter. And someone said this
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  Speaker 1: to me, Reverend Stephen Green said today, And it really
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  Speaker 1: struck me when I said, I don't know that people
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  Speaker 1: will respond and be as upset and and impacted by
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  Speaker 1: Kyle Rittenhouse being um exonerated as other situations that we've
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  Speaker 1: seen where people really have been emotional and hurt, and
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  Speaker 1: we has impacted especially white people, to see how bad
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  Speaker 1: it is because his victims were white, right, And Stephen's
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  Speaker 1: response to me was the original victim, he didn't say
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  Speaker 1: Kyle Rittenhouses, but the original victim was Jacob Blake, a
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  Speaker 1: black man who was shot and paralyzed in Kenosha. And
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  Speaker 1: that is what precipitated the response, the outrage that bought
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  Speaker 1: Kyle Rittenhouse to that town. Why he killed other people
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  Speaker 1: who were there protecting black lives. The other situation is
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  Speaker 1: in Brunswick, New Brunswick, Georgia, where a mother has to
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  Speaker 1: sit and listen to people talking about all this other
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  Speaker 1: stuff except the fact that these men, the McMichael's, were
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  Speaker 1: not and plus their other whatever the other guy's name is.
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  Speaker 1: They were not the police, They were not in any
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  Speaker 1: way authorized, They were not the owners of the home.
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  Speaker 1: They were in no way authorized to take their funky asses,
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  Speaker 1: their racists, uh, evil callous asses out there to hunt
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  Speaker 1: down a man who they they saw him, They saw him,
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  Speaker 1: they saw a mod are very going in that house
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  Speaker 1: checking it out, and and and and similar to George Zimmerman,
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  Speaker 1: hunting black people is a sport to some white folks,
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  Speaker 1: particularly to some white men. Putting black people's lives in
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  Speaker 1: danger with their tears is a specific thing that white
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  Speaker 1: women do, some white women, too many of them. But
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  Speaker 1: hunting negroes, President Biden, hunting negroes is something that white
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  Speaker 1: men specifically get off on. And so when they saw Ahmad,
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  Speaker 1: they said he didn't know, he was oblivious, believing that
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  Speaker 1: he could run in America and just dream about this
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  Speaker 1: new project, this new house, looking at it coming together
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  Speaker 1: the same way that white people were able, kids were
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  Speaker 1: able to dream going in that house over and over again.
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  Speaker 1: They had the footage to show it. But they saw
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  Speaker 1: a black boy, healthy, running and they love it. It
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  Speaker 1: literally brings them to goddamn or gas to see a
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  Speaker 1: black attractive strong man and they cannot keep their nasty,
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  Speaker 1: filthy hands off of black men, and so they hunted
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  Speaker 1: him down. And here's a black woman having to sit
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  Speaker 1: there and listen and then further watch the video that
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  Speaker 1: if it had not the people all Shaun King this
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  Speaker 1: and leave married that, guess what if it had not,
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  Speaker 1: I've been for the work that Shaun King lead married,
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  Speaker 1: and or Chris Stewart and others, all of these attorneys
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  Speaker 1: and and activists and advocates that got together and kept
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  Speaker 1: pressure in the system, kept pressure in the system, kept
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  Speaker 1: bringing us up to speed and keeping us in the loop,
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  Speaker 1: if it were not for the work that they did.
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  Speaker 1: When first of all, they created out of what they believed,
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  Speaker 1: having some visuals to bring us to the moment. And
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  Speaker 1: then the video comes out and we see Ahmad are
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  Speaker 1: Very being hunted and then blown away. Damn there, shot
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  Speaker 1: to death. The mother sitting there watching that, and it's
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  Speaker 1: too many of us that are trying to go to work,
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  Speaker 1: go to travel, do this, do that, all this other
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  Speaker 1: ship And meanwhile, in the back of our minds, we
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  Speaker 1: know that black people are not protected. So that's why
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  Speaker 1: today I wore this. I guess that's kind of like
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  Speaker 1: my thought of the day. I had other things because
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna ask they didn't want the weapons conversation.
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  Speaker 1: They were they were, they were, they were uh lifting
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  Speaker 1: the weapons charge. And as they were talking about late
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  Speaker 1: r during the prosecutors closing statements, he was he mentioned
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  Speaker 1: the weapons again and it caused more dialogue in the
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  Speaker 1: court that the judge had to speak to about whether
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  Speaker 1: it was okay for the weapon to even be mentioned
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  Speaker 1: at all. Right, And so in the midst of this
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  Speaker 1: conversation the judges him and in Han can't get his
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  Speaker 1: words out straight and our and and it seemed to
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  Speaker 1: me that he was prepared in his mind to protect
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  Speaker 1: Kyle Rittenhouse. That's how it's been throughout this entire trial,
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  Speaker 1: throughout the whole process. And I was thinking to myself,
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  Speaker 1: the white people have like a phone, a back phone
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  Speaker 1: that they call each other on, Like how do they
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  Speaker 1: transmit the message that we protect them. There's no other messages.
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  Speaker 1: They see a white boy walk into the room and
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  Speaker 1: they empathize, right, the same empathy and the same you know,
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  Speaker 1: grace that we want them to give our children and
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  Speaker 1: understanding that we want to give young black kids that
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  Speaker 1: come from nothing, that commit crimes that they believe or
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  Speaker 1: or detrimental, heinous, and we want we don't want to
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  Speaker 1: be put on death rowd for crimes that you commit,
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  Speaker 1: you know, very young, and we don't want to be
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  Speaker 1: have life imprisonment, and we want to be able to
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  Speaker 1: have opportunities after these things. They look at their own
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  Speaker 1: people as human beings. They don't look at us that way.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not about there's no sign to sign. Is
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  Speaker 1: that white boy walking here? And we we And it
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  Speaker 1: was against some ship that the niggers had going on anyway.
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  Speaker 1: It was based on some nigger that we already said
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  Speaker 1: he shouldn't those people shouldn't have been out there protesting
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  Speaker 1: for that nigga anyway. So those are nigger lovers, and
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna make sure that the man who protect the
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  Speaker 1: nigger lovers is safe and he's and he's protected because
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  Speaker 1: he's the man that protect the nigga or the man
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  Speaker 1: who was willing to kill was killed. The man who
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  Speaker 1: killed the nigga lovers is protecting, so you know, and
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  Speaker 1: and this is what it comes down to it and
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  Speaker 1: it's not hard, and people want to act like that
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  Speaker 1: those ain't the facts and that's not the reality, but
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: it's it sure is, and you know, and it's in
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  Speaker 1: this same scenario place over every time it does. And
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  Speaker 1: I guess the larger question that we will not get
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  Speaker 1: into today because we've got too incredible guests that we've
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  Speaker 1: got to bring on talking about mental health and still
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: trying to deal with this thing. And we got to
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: keep going there, man, we gotta keep getting into the
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: heart of this mental health crisis. Um. And then as
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: we go into as the holidays, you know, people getting
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: they're starting to spend that money, spend that money. You know.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: It's like what they say that corporations is like nigger
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  Speaker 1: dance dance, dance, dance dance, bring that money in. Um,
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking about that with two incredible people,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: one being Precious of R. C. Lea, who is a
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  Speaker 1: licensed psychotherapist, and then the other being Shakira Green, who
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: is a financial activist and so with those two coming on,
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  Speaker 1: we want to keep it short even though I'm running
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  Speaker 1: my mouth, But it just begs the question, do we
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: as black people have a bad phone? You know, do
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  Speaker 1: we have a bad phone to call one another and
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  Speaker 1: say I'm with you? You know, I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: I want to live in the world mice where just
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  Speaker 1: because a person is black, they could do anything, they
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  Speaker 1: could kill innocent people. And I support that, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: also being very honest and saying that I'm tired of
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: us always being the ones that have to do right,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: that have to be right, and yet we are up
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  Speaker 1: against a diabolical enemy that doesn't have the same moral compense.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't know, you know. So that's just yes, man,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a very it's a very um
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  Speaker 1: convoluted and fucked up place to be right. You you
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  Speaker 1: want justice, but you watch your people experience never get
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  Speaker 1: justice for so long that you even start to root
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  Speaker 1: for the villain, you know, you start to root for
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: things that you normally you probably you think they should
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  Speaker 1: be held accountable, but you like any nobody else being
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  Speaker 1: held accountable, No like you. I want to see us.
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  Speaker 1: I want to see us beat the system once in
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  Speaker 1: a while, and it's it's a fund up, it's a
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  Speaker 1: place to be in where that's the mindset that we
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  Speaker 1: have to have, or we we not really have to,
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  Speaker 1: we feel like we have to have. So, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the this whole the whole theory of justice, it's just
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  Speaker 1: a theory for me right now. And it's sad. That's
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  Speaker 1: so Now another friend joins us on the show. We
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  Speaker 1: talked earlier today about this UM fire brand, brilliant young
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  Speaker 1: woman that I can't to know through BBM, which is
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: the Bond Brand Management Agency where LaToya Bond manages both
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: of us, me more so than you because you are unmanageable, UM.
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  Speaker 1: But that's for a different days conversation. And UM, you know,
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  Speaker 1: one of the great things about having small agencies that
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  Speaker 1: specifically focus on black folks UM and understanding all the
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: issues that we have within us, is having an agency
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  Speaker 1: that knows that it's not just pr it's not just UM,
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  Speaker 1: you know of marketing and all the work that has
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  Speaker 1: to get done, but it's also having people around who
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: tap into the spiritual realm, who tap into the mental
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  Speaker 1: health realm. And Precious has been that and I always
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  Speaker 1: am so afraid to say her name, but as she
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  Speaker 1: would say, you always, I always get it right. So
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  Speaker 1: precious of work, Leia again, a friend of ours, of
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  Speaker 1: friends to street politicians, and I'm so happy to have
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  Speaker 1: this young woman on and just to re iterate who
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  Speaker 1: she is and her great great accomplishes accomplishments. She is
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  Speaker 1: a licensed psychotherapist, she is an author, and she is
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  Speaker 1: a mental health advocate and activists in her own right.
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  Speaker 1: So Precious, thank you so much for joining the street
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  Speaker 1: politicians today. Thank you you guys for having me. I
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  Speaker 1: am thoroughly enjoying the work that you guys are doing.
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  Speaker 1: The commentary, you guys are spot on every time I'm
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  Speaker 1: in the back whooping y'all on and everything, So we
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  Speaker 1: appreciate you. Man. So how's it been going? Like, what
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  Speaker 1: what are you doing right now? What have you been
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  Speaker 1: focusing on? So, as you guys may know, um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I've been in the mental health industry for quite some
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  Speaker 1: time now, for well over ten years, and I started
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  Speaker 1: out with a group practice and several years ago I
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  Speaker 1: decided to open my own practice, Modern Therapy now, which
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  Speaker 1: we've been open now and thriving for about four years.
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  Speaker 1: And my intention behind that was because I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: tailor make my approaches to the black and brown community.
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  Speaker 1: You know, as a psychotherapist, traditionally, you're really trained to
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  Speaker 1: be you know, a blank slate, right, don't say too much,
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  Speaker 1: don't be too much, don't take up too much space
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  Speaker 1: in the room. But as you guys may know, that
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  Speaker 1: really marginalizes a lot of people. You can't tell many
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  Speaker 1: people about their deep seated truths if they don't have
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  Speaker 1: a sense of who you are. So I decided I
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  Speaker 1: was going to take a different approach. I was gonna
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  Speaker 1: be transparent, I was gonna be my whole self. I
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  Speaker 1: was wanting to be you know all of the hay
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  Speaker 1: girl hay as well as you know, the clinical jargon
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  Speaker 1: and so on and so forth. So right now I'm
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  Speaker 1: really thriving with working with a lot of black and
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  Speaker 1: brown individuals and it's been doing great. Yeah, So what
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  Speaker 1: you just decided to go to school to be a psychotherapist?
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  Speaker 1: Like what was the process? What's the journey towards that?
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  Speaker 1: Because there may be other people out here who were like,
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  Speaker 1: this is what I think I should be doing, Like,
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  Speaker 1: what is the thing that comes up in you that
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  Speaker 1: says this is the field that I should be in,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: and just as a point of reference in Little f
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  Speaker 1: Y I. As I mentioned earlier in the show, I'm
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  Speaker 1: glued to the TV because the Kyle Rittenhouse trial is happening,
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  Speaker 1: and so I haven't running. Usually we don't, but today
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  Speaker 1: is a day that I think it's important for us
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  Speaker 1: all to be tuned in. So excuse me for that.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a distraction, hopefully, but I just wanted to
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  Speaker 1: say that absolutely, I totally understand. I've been, you know,
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  Speaker 1: checking in here and there in between sessions as well. UM.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, I think of one of those rare
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  Speaker 1: stories where I really did set out to impact individuals
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  Speaker 1: in some kind of way. I didn't really know what
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  Speaker 1: to call it early on, but I knew that was
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  Speaker 1: really interested and intrigued by human behavior and all of
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  Speaker 1: people's complexities, you know what I mean. I've seen mental
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  Speaker 1: health concerns throughout my family. I've been personally impacted by it.
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  Speaker 1: I know many people have, UM and I just noticed
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  Speaker 1: that I had a way with connecting with people and
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  Speaker 1: being able to support them, UM and help them move
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  Speaker 1: towards their goals. UM. Right now, I've taken a special
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  Speaker 1: interest in work life balance. Um, I've been I've had
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  Speaker 1: so many conversations with women in particular, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: women and men alike where the greatest strain is trying
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  Speaker 1: to figure out how to be everything that they want
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  Speaker 1: to be for others, and um, just finding that it's
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  Speaker 1: the expectation itself that really throws a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: off off balance. Uh So, really approaching work life balance
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  Speaker 1: from a place of let's, you know, understand what our
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  Speaker 1: individual needs and strengths are and then help that match
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  Speaker 1: our the way we're experiencing the world. Mm hmm. That's
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  Speaker 1: that's crazy, because I think that's one of the hardest
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  Speaker 1: thing to do, is just have a work life balance.
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  Speaker 1: You know, especially when you're trying to be successful, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when you um embarking on new endeavors, when you're a
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  Speaker 1: creative person, you know, when you're entrepreneur, Like, how do
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  Speaker 1: you what is the key? Like, give us some keys
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  Speaker 1: that you think it is to balance and work in
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  Speaker 1: life and being comfortable and not driving yourself crazy and
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  Speaker 1: working yourself to death. I think the first thing is
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  Speaker 1: just to shift your ideology about what balance is. You know,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: first and foremost, balance does not mean equal a lot
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  Speaker 1: of times, we expect ourselves to be to give to
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  Speaker 1: every you know, person in our life, every area of
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  Speaker 1: our life, in the same way, at the same level,
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  Speaker 1: with the same level of energy, always and forever, and
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  Speaker 1: that's just an unrealistic expectation. We're not the same person
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  Speaker 1: every single day. Our needs shift from day to day,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just not humanly possible to be able to
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  Speaker 1: give everything to everything all at once. Um. It's a
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  Speaker 1: well known fact that we actually do not multitask. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we put we end up putting a lot of strain
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  Speaker 1: on ourselves when we're trying to shift from one task
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  Speaker 1: to the other. So really scaling back on this idea
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  Speaker 1: that multitasking is the ideal, that you know, losing sleep
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  Speaker 1: is the ideal, That pushing through and keeping it moving
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  Speaker 1: is the ideal ideal. Excuse me, um, I've been on
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  Speaker 1: social media for years now saying that keeping moving culture
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  Speaker 1: is toxic, especially to the black and brown community. Um.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we have this beliefs of stuff that tells
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  Speaker 1: us that if we're experiencing things like anxiety and depression,
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  Speaker 1: that that's actually a sign of failure and weakness. So
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: we have to continue to press up against that stigma, um,
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  Speaker 1: and shift our understanding of those wellness features being inclusive
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  Speaker 1: of our in our path towards success. I saw on
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  Speaker 1: our friend killing Mike's page uh something that he posted
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  Speaker 1: that the night I saw it, it resonated, But the
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  Speaker 1: next day I had a little frustration happened, which made
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  Speaker 1: it even more important. He said, I tried my best
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  Speaker 1: and if that's not good enough, fuck it then, right?
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  Speaker 1: And I was like that when I saw it the
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  Speaker 1: first time, I was like yeah, But then I thought
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  Speaker 1: about it and I said, we especially just all of
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  Speaker 1: us in general, but especially as women, we try so hard.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm wondering if as we're getting older does it
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  Speaker 1: Do you think that it is helpful to the mental
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  Speaker 1: psyche to like stop trying with certain things, or is
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  Speaker 1: letting go a form of failure? Like how should we
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  Speaker 1: process that when we feel like we've tried too much? Right?
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  Speaker 1: I think that letting go is a part of wellness
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  Speaker 1: for sure. Um. I think that we all have a
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  Speaker 1: particular relationship with control, and when we are operating within
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  Speaker 1: this sense of control that says that we are supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be able to manage and impact change on everything
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  Speaker 1: around us. That is actually more debilitating to our mental
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  Speaker 1: health than anything else. Sometimes acceptance is the best way
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  Speaker 1: to fall into balance, just accepting the fact that the
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  Speaker 1: door did close, that the answer was no, so that
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  Speaker 1: you can pivot and you can shift. I'm not telling
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  Speaker 1: people to stop. I'm just telling them that sometimes you
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  Speaker 1: have to accept that that may not be what's for you.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that that can create a sense of resolve.
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  Speaker 1: But we have to understand again, back to your ideology,
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  Speaker 1: your basic fundamental belief system about how life works in
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  Speaker 1: general has to be one that says that I understand that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, my path is going to be created both
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  Speaker 1: through the cop collaboration of you know, me wanting things
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  Speaker 1: and me being able to self propel and self motivate
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  Speaker 1: and be ambitious, but also it's going to be a
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  Speaker 1: path that is sown into you know, just the universe
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  Speaker 1: and things that are unseen, things that are unknown, things
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  Speaker 1: that you know, we don't have ultimate and complete control over. Yeah,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: we don't have ultimate and complete control over. Lately, a
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: number of people I love, including my son, has told
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  Speaker 1: me that I have to work on trying to control
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  Speaker 1: every situation, and that is you know, it's hard to
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  Speaker 1: hear that because you feel like you're doing everything out
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  Speaker 1: of a good place, like trying to make sure that
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  Speaker 1: things are running and moving. But sometimes, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: guess you do have to listen to people when they're
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  Speaker 1: basically telling you that instead of been feeling like love,
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  Speaker 1: it feels like control. Absolutely. I think that what ends
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  Speaker 1: up happening is, you know, a lot of our relationship
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  Speaker 1: with control is really born out of a previous trauma.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you have um you know, been exposed to
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  Speaker 1: environments where there was a lack of control. There was
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  Speaker 1: a lot of chaos and you didn't really know what
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  Speaker 1: the next moment or the next day was gonna bring.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes what ends up happening is that you need everything
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  Speaker 1: to be in control, right, So, you know, I think
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  Speaker 1: it there's a little bit of a miss uh perception
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  Speaker 1: there because people will take that as you're being controlling,
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  Speaker 1: But what you're really looking for is everything to be stable,
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  Speaker 1: everything to be accounted for. You want to know where
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  Speaker 1: everything is, what's going on, what your role is in things,
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  Speaker 1: and that delivers a sense of safety, um and security
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  Speaker 1: to you. But you know, what I oftentimes tell my
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  Speaker 1: clients is that everything that's functional isn't sustainable. Right, So,
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  Speaker 1: at one point in life that may have worked for you,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it yielded positive you know results,
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  Speaker 1: You are able to progress and gain success by operating
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  Speaker 1: the way that you operate. However, you know, trying to
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  Speaker 1: control absolutely everything again is ultimately debilitating to your psyche.
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  Speaker 1: So there will come this eventual moment where you can't
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  Speaker 1: continue to move forward like that. It starts to you know,
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  Speaker 1: put too much strain on your body, too much strain
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  Speaker 1: on your mind space, too much strain on your relationships.
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  Speaker 1: Even so, we have to dial it back when we
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  Speaker 1: have to concede to you know, what is or what
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  Speaker 1: isn't and then what we can control control, what the
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  Speaker 1: things that we can have impact on. Mm hmm. That's
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  Speaker 1: so prolific right there. You know, I find myself going
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  Speaker 1: through the same thing. Like we all want to control,
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  Speaker 1: especially you know, especially in the work that we do.
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  Speaker 1: We want to be able to control our situations. We
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  Speaker 1: want to be able to constantly say that we could
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  Speaker 1: do the work. And sometimes it gets it gets overwhelming,
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  Speaker 1: you know, especially dealing with social media in this world
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  Speaker 1: that we live in, where it always feels like you're
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  Speaker 1: not doing enough, you know, it always feels like it's
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: more to do, and it's more to do and you
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  Speaker 1: could be doing I find myself going through the constantly
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  Speaker 1: like I'm not doing enough, I'm not doing enough. I
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  Speaker 1: should be doing this, I should be doing this, and
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: then trying to take on all these things by yourself.
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  Speaker 1: And it's because I think for me, it's because I've
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  Speaker 1: always I've been used to doing things by myself. I've
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  Speaker 1: been used to. If I don't really do the things,
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  Speaker 1: if I don't put all of these things in to it,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's not gonna happen. So you know, it's hard.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard, you know, to let go work. It's hard
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  Speaker 1: to ease. Like to me, it's been saying, Yo, we
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: need to take a read. People need to take a vacation.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I need doing nothing else to after Christmas, and I'll
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: be and me hearing that, it's like, what would you mean?
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  Speaker 1: That's a old you know, you know, And I guess
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  Speaker 1: for me being imprisoned come has a lot to do
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  Speaker 1: with it, right, losing seven years of your life and
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  Speaker 1: not being able to do anything for those days that
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to do things and watching life past and
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  Speaker 1: watching people that I was would progress to certain levels
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  Speaker 1: and then feeling like I was stagnated and I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I have to make up time. But it's impossible
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  Speaker 1: for you to make up anything. You just can only
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  Speaker 1: move at the pace and that and deal with the
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  Speaker 1: time that you have now. Yeah, absolutely, And that's exactly
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  Speaker 1: what I mean by expectations. You know, you're already successful.
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  Speaker 1: You you're already you know, putting things in motion. Things
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  Speaker 1: are going to happen. And I'm not saying to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: take the pressure off of the situation at all. I'm
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: just saying that it's the concept of that mission in
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  Speaker 1: your head. You know, you're hyper present with the reality
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  Speaker 1: that you lost time, you know. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: one could say that you're right on page, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because one could say that, you know, at a different time,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: you know, things that you're manifesting today may have not manifested,
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  Speaker 1: you know. So that's what I'm saying about there. The
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  Speaker 1: ballot starts with your mindspace first, where you can say
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  Speaker 1: that you know, yes, this is the this was not
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  Speaker 1: the course that I necessarily wanted to take. And also
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: I recognize how it's put put me in position for
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: certain things to happen. So I'm going to you know,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: apply the pressure. But I'm also not going to guilt myself.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna shave myself for what has come to
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  Speaker 1: pass already. Let's thank you. I gotta, I gotta, I
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: gotta take much church to us. I'm that part, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But we're taking a lot of stuff very serious, and
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: there's a lot to be serious about. You know, often
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: times say that we wake up to be oppressed, we
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: wake up to be attacked, we wake up to be invalidated.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: You know ta maka mention, the call writtenhouse um trial
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  Speaker 1: happening right now, that's abrasive. You know what I mean
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  Speaker 1: to me, that's injurious. When I watch that, it injures
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  Speaker 1: my spirit. It it impacts me, right. So we're collecting
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  Speaker 1: all of that every single day just by way of
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: our awareness. We scroll on social media and you know,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: there's someone living lavish that makes us feel insecure. There's
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: someone getting murder that makes us feel at risk. There's
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  Speaker 1: someone talking about COVID that makes us feel completely out
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  Speaker 1: of control and susceptible to something that you know, we
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: we can't even tell which direction is coming from. So
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: at the end of at the basis of anything, just
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: has to be wellness. We have to create a regiment
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  Speaker 1: to where we're tending to our mind space on a
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  Speaker 1: regular basis. Listen, I know, I know you gotta go. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, my sign. I want to ask one more
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: things before. So you know, I was just hearing in
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: the New today something that happened with La La where
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: she has some hard complications and some people are saying
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: it's attributed to stress and things of that nature. Like
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  Speaker 1: what warning signs because I don't know. I'm so used
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  Speaker 1: to just being on a hundred, I'm so used to moving,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't I don't take the time to to
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  Speaker 1: to even acknowledge when I'm when I'm birthed out, I
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  Speaker 1: don't even know how to feel. I know i'd be tired,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: so let me just get some rest. After the rest,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: I'm back at it. So, like, are there warning signs
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  Speaker 1: and things that we should just look for and notice
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: that tells us like you're burning yourself out, you might
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: need to just relax and get into a different space. Yeah,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you asked that question. And let's
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: send some healing and loving energy towards lalla Um for
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: her recovery. But stress is and has always been the
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: number one killer. You know. We hear that, and I
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: feel like we're a little dismissive to that fact. But
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: there's so much that we can be doing to counter
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: the effects of stress um as far as you know.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: One of the things that you said that was really
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: vital to your answer actually was that you don't take
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: the time out, you know, And that's why I'm often
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: I promote meditation and mindfulness so much, because it's really
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: the stillness that we need so that our psyche can
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: catch up to everything that we've been enduring all along.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you just have to let yourself be still.
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  Speaker 1: All of the warning signs are there for you. You know,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: all of the signals. Your body is so communicative all
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: of the time. It's telling you what's going on. Those
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: little strains and pains in the back of our neck.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: You know, the headache that you have for two days.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: You know, your stomach is upset, your your your limbs
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: are aching, your your fingers, your toes, everything is is
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: in pain. That is the warning sign to let you
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: know that your body is in distress and to understand
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: that you at least seem just stand still long enough
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: to make the connections and understand what's going on. UM.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: I will say this that sleep is a non negotiable. UM.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Something that is well known in my field is that
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  Speaker 1: sleep alone can you know, induce you into psychosis. It
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: can induce you into depression, it can induce you into anxiety.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: The first thing that we do when someone comes into
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: the hospital is give them a sleep aid, and the
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: next day when they wake up, almost about of their
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: symptoms have decreased. So, UM, being able to have a
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: good sleep regiment, being able to have a balanced diet diet,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: being able to have an exercise regiment. You know, just
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: getting those endorphins in can really impact how stress is
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: impacting you. So just those fundamentals first, I know you
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: have to go and and sleep is a non negotiable,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: which is something that I don't get enough of, so
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: I know you know, UM, And the other day, uh,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: LaToya says to me, you text late and early. I
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: just can't figure out, like, at what point does the
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: sleep happen? You know what, I do sleep sometimes, But anyway, UM,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: the my last thing for you is do therapists have
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: it all together? Like if you're a therapist, psycho therapist.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: You're a psychiologist. Do y'all have it all? Absolutely not.
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  Speaker 1: Therapists are people too. And that's another thing that you know,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: was was what I wanted to denote, what I created
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: the modern therapist persona. I wanted people to see me
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: being a regular, magular person that has issues. I say
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: this field to my clients when I have a consultation,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: I said, she got issues too. She is not here
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  Speaker 1: to be the example of how to be perfect. She's
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: here to be the example of someone who wakes up
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: every day for challenges and uses the same skills and
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: tools that she you know, imparts to you to make
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: sure that she can have a balance of life and
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: she could wake up for the next day thereafter. You know,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: when I have a client come in, I say, I'm
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: not the expert in the room. You're the expert on you.
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  Speaker 1: You bring what you have. I know human behavior, I
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: know life, I know you know being a human and
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out your psyche and we're gonna put
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: that together, and we're gonna figure it out together. And
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: so absolutely not well, because I ain't crazy. You know,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: at least you we all got to lose here, No,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: we all got some stuff. Thank you so much, precious,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you so much. And um, you know, the
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: knowledge that you're imparting on us that we want to
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: share with the broader audience is something that should just
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: be uplifted every second of the day. Like every space
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: you turn to they should be places to get little
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: nuggets about how to manage just our lives because there's
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: so much that's controllable and so much that is not, um,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: that's happening to us every minute of the day. And
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: if you're a parent, if you work in the world,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: especially in my p you know this is my thing out.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: You didn't say this, I am saying it. If you
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: work around white people every a you stressed out. If
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: you're a person of color, absolutely, because it's a very
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: difficult place to try to manage all the microaggressions, all
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: the misunderstandings, you know, trying not to speak too loud,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: be too threatening, um. And you know, and also dealing
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: with the injustice of just trying to climb ladders and
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: seeing people that are not even as good as you
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: be able to rise above you. That's a lot. And
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: you know, we we do find ourselves working, working ourselves
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: to death, literally working ourselves to death, trying to be
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: as good, trying to be as noticed, trying to be
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: as fly you know, trying to just because you gotta
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: be ten times flyer in order to compete with us.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: That's the stronger and and whatever I was gonna saying longer,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: but I think that's for a different show. So for today,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: thank you so much pressures a lood. Precious, why today today?
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Just because I said, you always get it right? That's it.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: It messed you all up. I love you so much,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: thank you for thank you so much for having me.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Your skin is looking beautiful. Thank you than that melon
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: and popping. I appreciate you guys so much. Have a
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: good day day. That's how we own it. That's how
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: we owned it. Precious is just so dope, man. She
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: she has a energy and you and you can realize
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: certain people just have callings on their life, right like
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: when when I used to when you know, when I
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: work with Precious and she calls and we got to communicate.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: She's just so easy to talk to, right. She just
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: seems like she's just so serene. She has this energy
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: that makes you just feel comfortable. So when all of
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: these things that she do these allergies, knowlogists, they really
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: fit her, man, So it's it's dope just hearing that
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: and her being able to actually confirm some of the
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: things that we know about our own selves. You know.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I think when it comes to mental health and meditation
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: and just having someone who psychoanalyzes you, I think what
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: they actually do is make you realize things that you
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: already know. I think that's what the good ones do.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: M h Yeah, No, I agree with you a hundred
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: percent about that. I think sometimes when we hear things
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: about ourselves, it hurts because you think that, you know, wow,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that I was doing this, So I
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: was presenting myself in a certain way to people. But
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: having the safe space of a therapist to try to
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: help work through what it means and and you know,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: and and being in a space where it's not contentious
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: but rather it's supportive and reassuring is important. And that's
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: what Precious is. She's the type of person that could
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: take well, you know, I'm and and in fact, my
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: relationship were Precious becomes as strong as it ever has been.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: In two thousand and nineteen, when I became addicted to pain, pills.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: That's when she and I got to be really close
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: because I saw the addiction as my weakness, as the
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: worst place that I've ever been in my life, and
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: not not to say it's not, you know, it doesn't
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: mean that it's not. But I saw it as being
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: not the end of me, but I saw it as
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: being like a real tell tale sign that I wasn't
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: the person I believed. And she took it and reaffirmed
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: me and really walked me through all the steps that
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: led to that moment that were beyond the crisis that
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: out the public crisis that I was going through, but
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: even things from when I was younger, from moments in
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: my life when I felt not included, not good enough,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: when I felt like I wasn't doing whatever my family
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: needed me to do, or the man that I was with,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: or whatever, and she was able to show me that
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: the breakdown I was having was a culmination of many things.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: And the public terror, if you will, the public moment
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: that I had was only like the what do you
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: call it? The top of the rock. It was the
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: top of the rock, you know, And I didn't think
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: about that, so I was, oh, my god, how could
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: people do this? To me. It broke me down. And
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: then she was like, yeah, but what about this and
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: that in the third and I was like, wow, I
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: have a lot of processing to do. So I think,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: you know, she has a skill set. And and by
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: the way, even the psychiatrist that I worked with now,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: which is different from what um Precious does. Um. This
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: psychiatrist that I'm that I've worked with every day or
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: not every day, I needed every there. But the psychiatrist
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: that I work with, you know, he's amazing. And recently
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: I was going through something and I called to him,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: was like yo, dude, like for real, like just this
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: and that and he and he was there for me.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: But it's not the same thing like having a black
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: woman understand other black women. It's not the same thing.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: It's not the same thing. Even when I'm speaking to him,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: he is so firmly clear about what I need to do,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: so firmly clear, like every other black man that I'm
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: close to, firmly clear. But when speaking to Precious, she's
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: as a black woman is willing to get in my
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: mess and and and whittle around and all of my
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Oh I don't know, I don't know. So I think
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: you might need to therapists in your life. Yeah, I
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: gotta give me one, because you know, I've been trying
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: to psychoanalyze myself and be my own therapist for you
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: is man, So some I need somebody else to pour into.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: So I gotta start searching into that professional skills. So now, um,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: the other thing that drives us crazy is what we're
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: going to right. The other thing is our money, you know,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: spending it right, spend it wrong. Uh, you know, holding
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: it forever, thinking it's gonna somehow another just double itself,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: triple itself. You know, I know family, I have family members,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: I have an uncle. His money is buried in the
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: yard somewhere, and there are people by the way who's
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: sitting around knowing it's got to be somewhere around, so
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: they'll wait. You know, they don't want him to die,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: but if he does, they're gonna tap everything looking for
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: it because they know he's been sitting on his money.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: That's how he That's just how he is. You know.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: So people, some people. Everybody has a different relationship with money,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: and it can be very stressful. It can be even
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: not enough, having too much and not knowing what to
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: do with it. All of those things can be very,
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: very stressful. And so today we're gonna be talking to
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: another friend to street politicians, UM, Shaquira Green, who is
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: she calls herself a financial activist, a final activist and
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: good and she's coming right up to talk to us
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: about our money because Saira tell me some things about
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: this chiner. That's so. As we mentioned another one of
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: our friends joining the show today, this Shaquira Green, who
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: is a financial expert for eighteen years. Over eighteen years
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: she's been in banking and finance. But she's on this
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: show today as the finance activists, the financial activists we need.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: So Shaquira, thanks for coming on. You know you you're
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: my pretty friend. Thank you, Thank you to me to
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: thank you, my son. Thank you so much for having
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: me on today. A conversation that's much needed to have,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: especially in our community. That's fact. So how do how
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: do we get money? We just want to how we
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: go get rich? What we need to do right now
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: to get rich? What we need to do well? The
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: first thing we need to do is begin to shift
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: our mindset. You know, it's how you think about money.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: How do you view money? Um, money is for me
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: an avenue for UM freedom right. UM, it's a it's
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: a It's a tool that we can use to UM
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: create the business that we're passionate about. UM, travel the world,
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: you know, get experiences, UM, send our children to college,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: whatever it is that you're passionate about. For me, money
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: is a tool and a vehicle to help you get there, UM,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: to give back to our community, to help other people
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: who are less fortunate. And so I think the first
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: thing we need to do, whether you have money or
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: you're trying to acquire it, is begin to shift your
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: mindset and evaluate what's your relationship with money. You know,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: for years, my relationship with money was funny, and so
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: I had to be honest about myself. UM. You know, UM,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: how was I showing up in that relationship? UM? And
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: they started with me taking a look at how was I,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: how was I raised? And what were some of the
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: things that were installed in me? UM. My grandmother, UM,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: for instance, I'll take her. You know, she told my
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: mother and my gran my aunt to never move out
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: of the projects because in her mindset, that meant that
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: they would always have a roof over their head if
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: they could live and subsidize living, you know, Um, she
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: couldn't fathom her granddaughter probably owning multiple properties. You know,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: I remember, um, she used to say to us when
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: we was little, when you walk out this house, you
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: represent us. And so that means you always look your best.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: And so in translation, every time I went out and
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: had an interview or a new job or somewhere to go,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: I was running out and I was buying a new outfit.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Whether I could afforded a not, it didn't matter as
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: long as you look good, because that was what my
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: grandmother taught us, right, And so I begin to just
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: kind of shifting the mindset and think about how am
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: I using my money and my lifestyle. If you if
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: this pandemic didn't teach us anything, it taught us how
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: much we were spending frivolously, between brunches and just shopping
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: and just being just being outside period is gonna cost you, right, So, UM,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: I always tell people it starts with you shifting your
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: mindset and reevaluating your relationship with your money. M So
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: we're so The reason why I thought the financial activist
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: component was so important, and particularly in the context of
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: this show, is that we were just talking about working
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: ourselves to death. Um, with our friend Precious, who is
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: a psychotherapist, right, And so I also think we can
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: worry about money as well in a way that's unhealthy,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: either either either worrying about not enough or having much
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: and either not knowing what to do with it or
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: worrying about losing it. I find myself hoarding my money,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: and I've learned that that is not the right thing
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: to do, because the I r s just loves it.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: It's like the best thing in the world. People who
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: don't know that when you get money, you should spend
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: some of it, but you got to spend it the
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: right way and be because I don't necessarily always know.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: It's so many people in my ear telling me how
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: to spend my money. I've got marijuana investors asking me
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: to put money there. I've got uh people saying, let's
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: with these houses. I've got people saying do this business
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: that thing. My son has ideas everywhere I turned, and
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: I also have ideas. So I find myself just being like,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: to hell with it. I'm just gonna hold my money
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: and and you know, and hopefully God will come and
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: tell me in my ear in the middle of the
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: night what I to do, which is not healthy and
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: you're you hit it right on the nail. Money is
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: the number one stressor UM that people have. It's also
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: the number one reason why folks get divorced. UM. You know,
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: forty six percent of Americans say that they don't have
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: four hundred dollars saved for an emergency. Prior to the
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: um pandemic happening, eight percent of Americans was living paycheck
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: to paycheck. God knows, I'm sure that number has uh
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: skyrocketed since then. UM. But all of these statistics go
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: back and show you why it's important. And the reason
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: why I call myself a financial activist is because I'm
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: on this journey to continuously educate people about their finances,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: particularly in communities where you and I come from, where
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: this information is not taught to us, it's not installed
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: in us. You know, my mom was a single parent,
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: you know, raising two children UM in an urban community,
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: and so I didn't go to college. I didn't go
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: to school with the twols and resources to understand credit,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: to understand UM investing. And as I got into the
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: banking industry, this is where I began to learn it
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: became a self aware that wow, this is this is
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: not taught to my people. You know, when I went
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: to school, there was someone on college campus giving out
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: applications for a credit card. And that's how I got
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: my first credit card, which was discovered, and boy did
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: I discover. I discovered everything got shouldn't have done. I
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: went straight to the Gucci store. I only think I
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: had enough for the bag. But those are some experiences
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: that I know many people in our audience could relate
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: to of just not being taught the knowledge from home.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: And this is why I think it's important that now
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: I love it that everyone wants to have the conversation
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: so to you, and all those things that you mentioned
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: are great things to invest in. You just have to
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: figure out what works best for you and what's in
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: your risk tolerance. What's in your risk tolerance. I can't
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: lose nothing, but jorganed me a short thing because I
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: can't risk nothing at all. But you know what the
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: old saying, scared money don't make no money. So you
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: do have to be willing to do some type of investing.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: So let's talk about it right. Like for me, the
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: one thing that I always promote is um homeownership. I
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: think that for the average person in America. Homeownership is
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: the eassiest way to start building wealth and to build
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: a legacy. Um. I'm an I'm an investor, real estate investor,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: and I mean there's multiple ways that you could do it. Um.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: I'm super conservative like you, my son. So I get it.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: I don't want to lose any money that I need
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: to sleep good at night with some of my investments. Um.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: But homeownership is a way that you can get in.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: Your home is going to appreciate. It's going to build value,
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: cash value that you can pull out and you can
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: you know, purchase other properties or start that business that
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: you want. Um. So I always say, go sit down
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: with a financial advisor, talk about homeownership. How could you
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: get into it? So many different programs that will all
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: you to get in there, to put three and a
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: half percent down, five percent down, there's so many different
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: vehicles out there. Just got to do the homework in
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: the research. I got to do the homework in the research,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: my son. That's what we've been saying. We've been, you know,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: we've been as an organization, we've been looking into a
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: lot of different you know, ventures that we want to
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: tackle into. I've been looking we all been coming back
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: to the table, Hey, we should probably do this this,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: so you know, it's it's it's a process. But I
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: think we're moving in the right direction, you know, and
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: some things that we want to get into. So we're
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: we're forty plus, so we we were out the game.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: It's too old, Like should we have been doing it
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: so much earlier that now we're so far behind we
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: can't catch up? Like, these are things that people really
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: do feel. Absolutely, it's never too late to get in
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: the game. Of course, if you can get in there earlier,
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: please There's twenty of times I'm like, I wish that
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: I started investing when I was in my twenties, but
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: I wasn't. I didn't have the knowledge. So when you
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: know better, you do better. But to that person that
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: feels discouraged, that feels like I'm I'm too old, or
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: you know, I can't get in or I don't make
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: enough money, it's never too late to get into the
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: game and start investing. Another thing I think we need
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: to think about is how how do we leverage our
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: credit Our credit goals and our savings goals need to
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: be aligned. Let me give you a perfect example. These
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: are basic tips that the average person can imply. I
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: pay everything every month on my credit card. At the
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: end of the month, I paid the credit card off
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: before the twenty eight day. The reason why I do
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: that is I accumulate points, and then the points allow
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: me to offset my gas expense. I'll go get gift cards,
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: I'll redeem my points for gift cards, and then I'll
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: that will offset my gas expense. Or if I'm traveling,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: that's how I'll compa airline ticket or a hotel room. UM.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: When I pay my Verizon bill with my a card, UM,
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: it allows me to not have cell phone insurance, which
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: I'm saving forty five dollars a month by avoiding paying
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: revising fifteen dollars per line. I have a line for
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: me and both of my daughters. But if you pay
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: with your credit card, your credit card gives you cellphone
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: insurance and you're allowed to put two claims a month.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: These are little tips that people don't know and don't leverage. Also,
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of folks that have children that are
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: going to college. Right if you have a child and
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: you really aren't prepared to pay for college, if you
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: have good credit, you can put them on one of
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: your credit cards as an authorized signer and have that
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: child at age sixteen to eighteen start to build up
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: some credit so when they go to college and they
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: fill out applications, they now can qualify for the best
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: student loans or get the best interest rates. So again,
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: small you use your credit card. It's like everything I learned,
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: it's up in the air whenever I talk to financial
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: experts because and I'm doing it now now, I am
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: using my my, my, my, um. My finance manager is
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: so desperate for me to use the credit card for everything.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: Yet my relationship with my credit card is so scary
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: because I have I was proud of the fact that
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: if I don't have the cash, I'm not gonna buy it.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: Like that was my mindset. And y'all are saying something
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: completely different, completely different, completely different, and pay the whole
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: card off before the So yeah, so full disclaimer, because
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: this isn't for everybody. You have to be organized and
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: you have to be disciplined. You want to pay that
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: bill off within the twenty eight days so that you
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: do not assess any interests. You know. So I'm paying
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: the whole thing off, but I could afford that and
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: I'm also structured and organized with the financial calendar, you
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: know which every week I'm analyzing my finances and I'm
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: going on line checking my online banking right and I
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: could be anywhere whether I'm traveling. I get alerts on
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: my phone. So it's a very or. You have to
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: be disciplined and organizing, structured. But I paid the whole
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: bill off. I don't accrue any interest, but I get
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: the points, and the points allow me. Like I said,
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: if you, if you live paycheck to paycheck, that person's
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: mindset is how can I save My bills? Are my
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: bills and what I make is what I make, So
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: you have to find creative other ways to save money.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: So now you can redeem those points. How much do
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: you spend on gas? At least a hundred and fifty
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: dollars a month the average person. So now those gift
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: cards pay your gas. Now you didn't talk. You saved
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: yourself a hundred and fifty dollars. Put that away every
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: month and start saving. So again I'm thinking white people
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: know about this stuff. Of course, I met a lady
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: on a plane. We were I want my way to
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: Costa Rica, and they were celebrating your twentieth year anniversary.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: It was she, her husband, her mother in law, and
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: three children, and she told me she paid five d
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: hollars for that trip. I said, well, how did you
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: do that? By utilizing her points, she was able to
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: comp all the airline tickets and get a major discount
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: on the hotel that she was standing. One more thing,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: one more thing on you. This is my interview because
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: you're my friend, and I'm just I have one point
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: five million miles one airline, and I not. You can't
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: pay me to use my mouse. You can't like you.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: You could be like, I'm gonna give you cash if
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: you would use those mouths. I will not use them.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: Everybody tells me I'm crazy. I have another colleague that
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: I worked with that has two point three million miles
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: and he feels the same way. Scanty blues to use
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: the mouth But other people just be using their mouths,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: just flipping them. And what are you here? What are
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: you afraid of? You? A million? My? What do you?
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know what about? So I don't really listening.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: You don't want to use them? Give them to me
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: them over. But it's also too a lot of people
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: don't know. You can use your points to donate to organizations.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: So you know, I sit on the board of the
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: Urban League of Essex County and you know you have
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: an amazing you guys have an amazing nonprofit organization until freedom.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Folks can also redeem their points and donate to your organization.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: So I know, given Tuesday is coming up, that's a
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: great way to plug in and and to allow people
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: to give back to an organization that is doing the work.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: And that's at the front of the four lines. So
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: think about that as well. So use the mouse. Use
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: the mouse. Use the mouse, very important, all of them.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: Or get it down the two hundred thousand, like, what
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: would you what would be your comfortable space I need?
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: It depends that the power. Often do you do? You do?
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: You travel? You always on the plane, so I don't
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: understand you're always travel, especially for work. So use your points.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: But we could set up some time offline if you want.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: And I hope and now you want to help me,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: I hope you transfer them to me. No, thank you,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: thank you, thank you you brought I gotta start thinking
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: about my relationship with money, you know, relationship with money,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: that's the thing. Yeah, starting in your relationship with your
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: bank is important. His relationship with money is don't ask
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: him for none, don't ask him how much he has,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: and he ain't spending it unless he has to. And
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: anybody to ask him for anything gotta work for it
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: because they're just not gonna get his money for free.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: That's just that's literally it. I come from nothing, So
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: when you come from zero, you know how it is
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: to to have zero. You know, you just want to
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: make sure that you comfortable. You want to make sure
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: the things that you need to do that you're able
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: to do. I don't like to just waste money because
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: I don't have you know what I realized for me,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't have value from me. Like money
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: is something that I use as a resource. It ain't
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: something that I idolized that I chase, You understand, thing,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: I don't chase. Like there's a lot of people do
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: things just for money. Like I know a lot of
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: people that make a lot and they do it because
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: it drives. That's what drives. The money is not my
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: driving force, you know. My driving force is about you know,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: the work that we do, just seeing things progress, trying
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: to just make things better. So when I when I
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: accumulate money. I understand that the work and the things
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: that I do, it's not the things that just automatically
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: bring you a lot of money. So I gotta make
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: sure that money I got does the things that it
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: needs to do. So, you know, that's why I understand.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: My relationship with money is like I don't really we
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: don't we cool. We date from time to time. Wing
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: I ain't married to money, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: I ain't even thinking about getting mad, but I understand
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: that they're cool. And when I lead up, you know,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: I realized that we need to have some level relationship.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: But I have never been married to money. Yeah, and
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of people have that mindset, especially I could
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: totally relate to not coming from it and struggling. And
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: so when you do get it, you want to build
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: it protected and preserve it. But you must think. And
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: then I'm gonna tell you why. I posted something on
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: my page today so for you guys to please go
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: follow me, I am underscore shacare a green on Instagram.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: But the inflations. I went to the Gversary store Sunday
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: and a turkey with sixty dollars. I was blown away.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: I said, I don't care how much money I have.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: Sixty dollars inflation work inflation about sixty dollars six or six? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: So inflation is through the roof. The cost of living
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: is through the roof. I mean eggs have tripled in price,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: a milk. These are things that we need, you know,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: to survive. So you have to be thinking about how
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: your money is doing, my son, because your money needs
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: to work for you so that you can continue to
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: just survive. To be honest with you, it's no longer
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: an option to have multiple streams of income. I think
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: everyone needs to have the mindset of how am I
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: generating different multiple strings of income just to live comfortably.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: So something to think about that I cannot get the
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: newest when when when our mes restocks working for Christmas?
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: You're trying to tell me, because I'm like, I'm in line. Okay,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: I'm in line, and you're saying take it and do
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: something different, invest in it. You know what I'm You
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: know to me that I'm that girl too. I love
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: a nice Chanel bag, but buy your house first. I
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: buy your property, and then I get a Chanel and
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: my tenants pay for my chanel back. It's not money
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: that I'm paying for out of my incore, right, it's
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: it's being generated from multiple properties. And so that's my
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: ask for everybody just to go out and just think
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: about other ways that you can invest. Me. We all
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: like nice things. I'm not saying that, um, but you
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: need to make smart decisions. And um, I'm not out
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: here spending five thousand dollars on the bag my tenants
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: are paying that I have eight different properties that bringing
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: income for me. Okay my question, and will let you
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: go mm hmmm. So I have tenant, I had a tenant, okay.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: And it's always some druma right. Some of it is
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: my fault, right, Some of it is my fault. Some
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: of it is um just old houses. You know, it's old,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: it's broke down. That's just where it is. Right. What
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: about that fear of people being like I want to get,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: I want to own, but then I gotta fix ship.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: I gotta fix ship. I gotta stay on top of it.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: It's another thing to manage in your life. But the
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: thing is, once you start to understand, and then you
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: start seeing the risk versus the reward, you see how
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: much is it actually caused to fix these things versus
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: how much you actually make. And then you get you
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: have certain um people that you hire that that unders
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: that you know, we're gonna be able to do those
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: things at a certain time. So it makes it's gonna
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: make sense. You know, the money that you make is
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: gonna supersede the amount of work that you pay somebody
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: else to do. Anyway, so then you know, once you
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: know that, you can just pick up a phone. Okay,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: this is wrong, Okay, let me call such your sense.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: We have this contractor that's going to this. We've got
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: this contractor to do this, and I think it starts
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: to be become like a well oiled machine exactly. And
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: then Tamika, there's situations where you know, like my I
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: don't have the time, I don't manage these properties. I
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: have a property management company that may to them. In fact,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: most of them are out of state. There's only one
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: that I personally and hands on with, which is the
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: one in New Jersey. So that property management company takes
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: care of everything a piece of mind. If something goes wrong,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: they call a vendor, they take care of it. Comes
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: out of my cash flow. But it's not something that
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: I have to deal with and and it's it's few
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: and far in between. So um. To my son's point,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: I think he hit a spot on. It's gonna the
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: cash flow that you're getting on a monthly basis. Will
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: oversee if something pops up here and there. Um. But
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: of course we gotta do our homework, and you want
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: to You don't want to be a bad some landlord.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: Someone knows some lords, right right, Thank you, Shikire, thank you,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: thank you very much. We'll be in contact. Oh wait great, wait, wait,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: wait wait, I know we have to go, and I'm
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: I have the nerve to be making this interview longer.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: I am knowing that I have to go. If the
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: holidays we didn't talk about the holidays a coming. It's
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: Black Friday. They already. Listen, we went from Halloween to
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: Christmas and Thanksgiving. It's gonna be a stop in the middle.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: But it's hybrid Christmas. There are Black Friday sales already
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: and we're not even at the week of things. Give
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: We're just a week away. How people about this? You know,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: people have this real, this real, this real thing happening.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: Two years been in the house. You haven't been anywhere.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: I really wasn't you know, going out doing the things
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: that things weren't in stopped you couldn't get things. Now,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: I want to enjoy myself. I want things that make
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: me feel special, happy or whatever. What's your this is
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: how we can close? Is what's your message about this
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: holiday season and how we should be spending. So listen,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: people are gonna buy right. Like you said, we have children.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: We don't want to take away from the kids experience
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: or traditions and different cultures through differ and things. If
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: you're gonna spend, get the best deal, spend responsibly, use
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: those points that we talked about today, and try not
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: to put it on credit. If you could afford it,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: pay it cash or put it on your card. And
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: what I mean by pay cash is pay it back
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: off on your card right away. But don't accumulate interests.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: Don't accumulate more debt, because then January is themna come around,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: and then here you are right in your financial goals again,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: and you're gonna be back talking about this debt that
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: you've accumulated that you have to pay off. I also
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: like to say pay yourself. When you pay yourself automatically,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: then you have a certain amount of money set aside
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: for our holidays or travels in the summertime. So get
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: in the habit and start figuring out what could you
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: afford and set up some type of auto transfer into
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: a separate saving account, and that will help you during
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: the holiday seasons where you'll have extra cash put aside
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: and don't have to have that extra stress or burdening
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: or accumulate unnecessary debt. Put money aside all year for
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: your your moments, your how day, your summer, your splurge
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: is you gotta take that little whatever a hundred and
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: fifty two hundred dollars and tuck it away so you're
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: not like, oh my god, we can't pay the rent
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: because we gotta buy Christmas presents. Exactly exactly. That's good stuff,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: isn't it. She is smart you going on, yes, thank you.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: This is why we have to share with our community,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: because we want everybody to have it going on. Well,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: thank you with the street politicians community, and we will
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: certainly have you back. Shakira. Thank you, right, take care
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: holidays everyone. That's Shakira. She's so fly everything really, I mean,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: you know, I know her um have spent time with
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: her on trips in different places, and we didn't get
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: to talk about her story, but she often tells them
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: because she's not here. I won't um get too deep
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: into it, but she's got a story, a real story
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: that will really just blow your mind. And she's so inspiring.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: So I know when she says that she didn't come
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: from much, she really really didn't. And yet she's in
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: the position she's in now. She's saying eight properties. Anybody
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: can do it. Really, anybody can do it, but it's
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: a mind state and and and not everybody has the mindset.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: So anybody can do it, but not everybody has the
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: mindset to get it done. And I think, I think
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: it's a discipline and and really just setting your mind
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: and say this is what I'm gonna do. It's like
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: anything else. We make up our minds. It's okay this,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: I'm really focused on this, and we do it, and
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: we we buckled down. And then once you start to
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: see it working, it becomes natural. Right, once you start
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: to see it, you do it, and you start say, oh,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: I just made tens out. It becomes fun, it becomes
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: the normal. Thing is it's routine. It's like they say
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: you gotta do something for two weeks straight to become
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: make it will come to happen. So I think you
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: gotta do is really sit down and then really say, Okay,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: this is what I'm doing. I'm focusing this two weeks
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: straight to doing this and accomplishing it, and we'll start seeing,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: you know, we'ping the benefits of it, you know, and
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: start making our money, make money for for us. You know,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: that's the key. Make your money, make money, make your money,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: make money. That's the thing. It's like the you know,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: I'm not I can't say that I'm risk adverse, you know,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: because I'm not. But certainly I find myself being paralyzed
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: because of having too many options. And I think that's
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: also the thing is she she actually made a very
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: good point, which is to decide what is your risk level?
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: Like how much can you lose? Can you lose fifty
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: tho can you lose a hundred thousand? And because I
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: want to lose anything. But I get the point about
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: you know, being able to do a risk assessment. But
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: then also um really decided what works for you. Do
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: you want to be the person that gets a phone
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: call that something is wrong in the house. Do you
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: want to be the person that doesn't know exactly where
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: the marijuana industry is gonna go, Like there's so many
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: ways that it can go, but yet you believe that, hey,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: this might work for me, So this is something I
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: want to be in. Do you want to be the crypto?
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: I see the n f T s all of these things,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: like are you prepared to learn the industry and park
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: your money and maybe lose? I feel like that's why
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't get While we as
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  Speaker 1: people have no problem putting our money into something that
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  Speaker 1: ain't gonna make no money. We'll spend fifteen thousand, We'll
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  Speaker 1: spend two or three thousand on some jeans, a new jacket,
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  Speaker 1: We'll spend five thousand on the purse, all types of things,
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  Speaker 1: and have no problem just losing that money. But when
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  Speaker 1: we talk about investing some money that could quadruple, that
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  Speaker 1: could triple, we we have to think about it. We
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  Speaker 1: don't have to think about spending our money into our
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  Speaker 1: ten thousand on the bag we want. We don't have
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  Speaker 1: to think about putting fifty thou on the call we want.
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  Speaker 1: We don't have to think about putting on the chain
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  Speaker 1: we want. But talk about investing that money into something
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  Speaker 1: that could possibly turn into five and six times what
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  Speaker 1: it was. We gotta sit there and be like, damn,
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  Speaker 1: I'm scared to lose my money, but you lose it
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  Speaker 1: when you watch it. That ain't gonna come back anyway.
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  Speaker 1: But I have an answer for that. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if that's true. I don't know if that's true. Number one,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know who's buying two thousand dollar genes, but
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: I know I have none of them, and hopefully you want.
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  Speaker 1: They talked about how the genes course two thas because
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  Speaker 1: those are Mary's like this this expensive stuff. So I
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  Speaker 1: guess you're right. I think that the thing is that
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  Speaker 1: you have a product in your hand, right, So people,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'll say what you want, like, oh, Tunique
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  Speaker 1: the Mallory, you know she has expensive bags. Yeah, I do,
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  Speaker 1: and I worked freaking hard to be able to have
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  Speaker 1: whatever it is that I want. And so for me, well,
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  Speaker 1: first of all, my perkins and everything that I had
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  Speaker 1: that's related in the Ers family. The resell value is crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not reselling it, of course I'm not. I'm keeping
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  Speaker 1: them for the rest of my life. But not everything depreciates,
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  Speaker 1: So don't that's not it's not true that everything depreciates.
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  Speaker 1: I bought a bag and resell value is more than
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  Speaker 1: what you paid. WHOA, I bought a bag that was
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  Speaker 1: X amount of dollars. Not you, not you. I went
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  Speaker 1: back and looked at like what people are selling them for,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: because you know, there's sights out there where you can
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  Speaker 1: post your stuff, and people do that with watches. People
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  Speaker 1: hold onto things and when they're in trouble, they might
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  Speaker 1: go sell their stuff. Guess what four times the amount,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: four times the amount. Now that's today. There may come
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  Speaker 1: a time when there's racism in the store, or there
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  Speaker 1: is you know, some other issue animal um, you know, cruelty,
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  Speaker 1: or you find out where the stuff is being made
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  Speaker 1: in a factory. There are different things politically and morally
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  Speaker 1: that can get in the brands way, and at that
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  Speaker 1: point it hurts the brand's image and therefore people don't
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  Speaker 1: want it and they've moved on to something else. Right. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: what's that liquor that we were talking about that the
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  Speaker 1: other day, that j Crystal. They still can't get people
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  Speaker 1: to really put it back in the rotation of the
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: clubs and what have you. And we see as Spades
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: is a thing right, Jay said, to hell with Crystal,
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  Speaker 1: and then here we are, so that can happen to
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  Speaker 1: the brand. And so your quote unquote investment might not
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  Speaker 1: be as um as uh valuable as it could have
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  Speaker 1: been at one time. But if I sold my Birkins
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  Speaker 1: right now, I could make X amount of dollars that
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  Speaker 1: is way more. So I'm only bringing that point up
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  Speaker 1: because that's one Yeah. No, I'm just bringing that up
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: because that's one aspect. That's one aspect. Doesn't mean still
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  Speaker 1: that we should do more shopping in stores than we
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  Speaker 1: do investing, And I totally agree with you. So I
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  Speaker 1: just want to make sure I say that because I
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  Speaker 1: don't want anybody to get the impression that I'm talking
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  Speaker 1: about bags being more important than investments, because I ain't
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  Speaker 1: even that's not even a question. And I'm certainly in
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  Speaker 1: my life I have enough stuff that I've accumulated enough
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  Speaker 1: that I don't need another thing. So we're not talking
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  Speaker 1: out that. But what I will say is that people
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  Speaker 1: want something in their hand for their money. So when
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  Speaker 1: they go to the store and their shirt is a
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  Speaker 1: hundred dollars, two hundred dollars, two thousand dollars, they're going
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  Speaker 1: home with that shirt. The shirt might not be good
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  Speaker 1: in two months, three months, or whatever. All of those things.
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  Speaker 1: I get it, But they have the shirt in their
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  Speaker 1: hand at the time for the money they spent with
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: certain investments. You said, your point is it could do this,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: that and the third it could. And I think for
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: some people it's the thought that I'm like, I could
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  Speaker 1: take this two thousand dollars and go on a vacation
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  Speaker 1: and have my memories and my experience. Or I could
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: go online and transfer two thousand dollars to Robin Hood
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: and stashing all of these websites and then some ship
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  Speaker 1: that happens in the atmosphere I don't even know about.
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  Speaker 1: Other people are manipulating numbers and this and that out
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  Speaker 1: in the world, and the next thing, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: two thousand dollars that I had turns into zero dollars.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I hear what you're saying. But for for
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  Speaker 1: the most part, most products depreciate. Of course they do.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, I still have the thing. Even
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  Speaker 1: if you have it, you know you have for you
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: probably have or and a lot of people probably have
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: things that they've spent ten and fifteen thousand dollars on
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: that they don't wear it all. It's probably completely out
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: of style. You like, I would never wear it again,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: but never out of style, out of rotation, okay, is
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: out of rotation. It's probably you probably don't even like
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: it no more. You know. It's things like that. But
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: we have I'm just saying that we have this block
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  Speaker 1: investing and it's a mind state that you know, I
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: don't want to put my money because you know, what
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: if I lose my money? What if you know, I'm
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: not sure about this? And we don't we don't really
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  Speaker 1: have the same fear of just spending our money that
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: its objects and and you know, and items. I know
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  Speaker 1: I and I agree with you a thousand percent that
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: we spend frivolous money on frivolous things that can't do
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  Speaker 1: anything for us in terms of the larger goals that
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  Speaker 1: we have in life. And I have learned my lesson
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  Speaker 1: about that. I agree with shakira Um and what she
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: said that you know, our relationship with money can be
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: based upon what we didn't learn, what we didn't know,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: and it's and and and and it's not personal. My
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: parents didn't know, right, They didn't know they had little
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: check book and they put their information, you know, they
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: put their information in the lined up how much they spent.
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  Speaker 1: But it doesn't mean that they realize rather than getting
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: a co op, which I really don't don't necessarily own,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: I should go ahead and buy this house. Right. My
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: mom was like, I want to buy this house. I
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: want to buy this house. But my father was like,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: we don't need to do that because he's the type
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: of person that his relationship with money is the same.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: He want to make sure any emergency he good. You know,
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: my father is the man, he gonna be good. He's
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: gonna say if you call him right now and say, Daddy,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: I'm in trouble, he might not have five hundred thousand
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  Speaker 1: to get you out with ship. He might I don't know,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, but but but that might
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: not I'm not talking about at that level. But certainly
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: he can pretty much get his family members out of
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: any situation that they're in, his children, his grandchildren, because
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: he always keep keeps his money situated to be able
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: to do that. There are other people that toss it
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: all to the wall and then they and then they
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: end up having even more. You know what I'm saying,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: but some people lose. So it is a very touch
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: and gold situation. And the point that she made is
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: so important about that risk being able to decide what
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: is my risk level? How much can I lose? And
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: I think it's in comparison mice too. Or it goes
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: along with what Precious is talking about. The trauma that
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: we had set the tone for for so many things,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: the way in which we move and operate every single day,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: and a part of why we are we're why I
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: am unwilling to just invest in certain ideas and certain
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: things that I don't know or understand enough about is
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: because I do want to control the things around me
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  Speaker 1: and have safety. She says, safety and security, and that's
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: what it makes me feel unsafe to just put my
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  Speaker 1: money in the world and hope it works out well.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: We gotta, I think we just we have to start
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: enhancing and building our mentality, especially when it comes to money.
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  Speaker 1: Just I noticed in the black community a lot of
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: us do get it, but there's a lot of us
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: that just are still more consumer base then you know,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: then then invest s ment based and you know, and
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: I think that mindset, that's what we have to flip
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: and get more in investment in saying like she said,
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna buy this broken bag. I'm gonna let
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: this real estate that I brought and let these you know,
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: the ri that they pay me for it by the bags.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: And when we start thinking like that, we started thinking
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: three steps ahead. I think it's gonna you know, it's
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: gonna point paying out a lot better for us acts.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: And with that said, another dope episode. Shout out to
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: both our guests who had a lot, a lot to
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: offer us. I need me somebody to get in my
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: brain and I definitely need me a couple of few
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: more dollars. Man. So thanks Precious and Shaquira for coming
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: on our show. We're not gonna always be right to me.
• 1:24:45
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• 1:24:49
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