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Episode 6.5: Big Ten Power Rankings · Return to Glory - Nebraska

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  Speaker 1: Return to Glory podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Big ten Preview Week Hunters are Nikki, Austin Rose, Dakota
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  Speaker 2: Free Tag. We are still up on YouTube. Get in
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  Speaker 2: a couple of views. I'll just leave it out a
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  Speaker 2: dislike to listen to podcasts. But yeah, if you want
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  Speaker 2: to watch us, we are on YouTube. We also can
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  Speaker 2: be found in same places as always Big ten Preview Today,
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  Speaker 2: we'll have a little Husker talk, but we really want
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  Speaker 2: to dive through the opponents so we can see who
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  Speaker 2: we're beaten in the Big ten title game ten titles.
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  Speaker 3: So optimistic of you Hunter pay tape titled yeah You're right, Yeah, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you're You're always known to be the optimistic one, and
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  Speaker 3: I should I should follow as soon you do your lead.
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  Speaker 4: I'm already assuming we all got into risking number one.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we could just write that off.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Here's how we're gonna do this. It's gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Of a longer episode, well not time wise, but a
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  Speaker 2: lot of content to get through. So there's eighteen teams.
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  Speaker 2: I was doing research. It took a while to get
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  Speaker 2: through them all, and it makes it more fun. I think,
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  Speaker 2: but the same time, there's gonna be a lot to
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  Speaker 2: dive into. So just high level overview. Eighteen teams, four newcomers.
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  Speaker 2: There's quite a few first year head coaches. You got
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  Speaker 2: Jed Fish at Washington, Jonathan Smith coming from Oregon State
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  Speaker 2: to Michigan State, to Sean Foster first year head coach
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  Speaker 2: at U C. L. A.
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  Speaker 1: Signetti at Indiana.
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  Speaker 2: Who else, Oh, David Braun taken over head coach at Northwestern,
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, wasn't David Braun the interim last year? He
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  Speaker 2: was the interim, so this is an official first year.
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  Speaker 2: So a lot of new coaches there for teams that
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  Speaker 2: I guess for me when we get to our rankings
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  Speaker 2: that are kind of all in one big group, there's
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  Speaker 2: some there's some teams here that I think, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we're one of them that have a chance to potentially have.
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  Speaker 1: A breakout year.
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  Speaker 2: We have a little more continuity than some of these
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  Speaker 2: other teams. But for the most part, it's there's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: There's a couple at the top we'll get to. I
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  Speaker 2: assume we're all pretty similar in that aspect, but a lot,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of interesting moving parts here
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  Speaker 2: in Big ten media days, were a few weeks ago,
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  Speaker 2: heard a lot hurd some interesting comments from a couple
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  Speaker 2: of the coaches.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, how this is gonna work?
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  Speaker 2: We are instead of each going through like our eighteen
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  Speaker 2: or seventeen, we're just gonna let one person just go
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  Speaker 2: and they'll have some time to go through all their rankings,
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  Speaker 2: give some commentary, almost like a little segment.
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  Speaker 1: We should put some music behind it. But but you
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  Speaker 1: get you.
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  Speaker 2: You'll get some time to explain your rankings, justify him.
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  Speaker 2: We'll have some time for some back and forth, and
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  Speaker 2: then we'll move on. So I'm curious. This was hard.
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  Speaker 2: It was so hard for me to do. So as
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  Speaker 2: leave it there, I'm gonna go last to Austin. I
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  Speaker 2: think you're gonna go first, act second, So Austin, the
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  Speaker 2: floor is yours for the people.
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  Speaker 3: All right now, I will say, as far as my
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  Speaker 3: depth of how I looked at this, I pretty much
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  Speaker 3: looked at a couple key returning players who they lost schedule.
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  Speaker 3: That's pretty much all the further I went. I didn't
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  Speaker 3: think too hard about it, So I'll justify a couple
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  Speaker 3: bike you said, really probably got five at the top,
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  Speaker 3: a big group in the middle, and maybe two or
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  Speaker 3: three at the bottom that are I think I think
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  Speaker 3: we'll all agree on but I don't know for fact.
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  Speaker 3: So we're gonna try to start from the bottom, work
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  Speaker 3: our way up. I pulled my list here U c
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  Speaker 3: l A. It's gonna have the worst year in the
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  Speaker 3: Big ten.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, I said, I wasn't gonna interrupt you. And then
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  Speaker 2: I made a fun little graphic that I want to
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  Speaker 2: share while we're doing this, I can figure out how
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  Speaker 2: to do it. Share screen.
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  Speaker 1: There it is.
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  Speaker 3: It is.
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  Speaker 1: Look at that. Wow, you little graphic.
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  Speaker 4: You I like.
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  Speaker 3: You lost it knows Obahan, the Exarban Curling Board president
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  Speaker 3: Cort directors pictures on your shows. That's funny, all right.
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  Speaker 3: I got UCLA number eighteen. They have a really tough
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  Speaker 3: schedule and I'll I mean, it's absolutely brutal. They travel
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  Speaker 3: the most mileage in the FBS over the seasons, like
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  Speaker 3: twenty two thousand miles or something like that. They play LSU, Oregon,
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  Speaker 3: Penn State, Minnesota, Rutgers, Nebraska, Iowa, Washington, USC Sandwich between
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  Speaker 3: Indiana and President and Iowa Hawaiian so easily. I think
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  Speaker 3: they're gonna have the worst record in the Big ten.
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  Speaker 3: So working our way up from there, we're gonna go
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  Speaker 3: probably the Indiana Hoosiers do first year head coach, they
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  Speaker 3: haven't been very good ever since Michael Pennix was there. Basically,
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  Speaker 3: don't really need to justify that too much. Following it
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  Speaker 3: up another Indiana, the Native the Purdue boiler Makers. Although
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  Speaker 3: I think they're gonna be improved from last year, they
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  Speaker 3: have a tough schedule for the most part. Again, we're
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  Speaker 3: starting to get to that bat pack of I think
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  Speaker 3: there's gonna be a lot of teams that are gonna
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  Speaker 3: be sitting around at seven to five, eight, four and
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  Speaker 3: six and six. I think Ford is gonna be on
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  Speaker 3: the edge of that, probably like a five and seven.
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  Speaker 3: But I just think they don't really have a whole lot.
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  Speaker 3: They're still kind of turning over with their defensive coach
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  Speaker 3: from what their offense was. Up next from them, I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna go with Michigan State, another new head coach. Had
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  Speaker 3: a rough year last year, but they were they were
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  Speaker 3: still kind of feistys are towards the end. I do
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  Speaker 3: think I can't remember what's the Oregon State head coach.
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  Speaker 3: What's his name? Yes, I think he's a good head coach.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be or a lot of talent
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  Speaker 3: from Oregon State. I don't know how well that talent's
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  Speaker 3: gonna translate from the Pac twelve into the Big Ten.
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  Speaker 3: From there, I'm probably gonna throw in Illinois. I think, honestly,
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  Speaker 3: Illinois Northwestern are pretty close for me. I think Illinois
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  Speaker 3: with Brett Bleema could easily turn around and have a
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  Speaker 3: DC year. But I also don't know if they really
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  Speaker 3: showed that they got that much talent in the off season,
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  Speaker 3: and then I'd have Northwestern be next, basically for the
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  Speaker 3: same thing. I think they lost their quarterback, They're going
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  Speaker 3: to have a transfer quarterback, They're gonna have a pretty
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  Speaker 3: decent defense, They'll have an okay offense. I just think
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  Speaker 3: the middle of the Big ten's just going to cannibalize
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  Speaker 3: itself up after that, I'd probably go with Minnesota over
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  Speaker 3: the Terrapins. They also have no Tanner Morgan, you know,
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  Speaker 3: so at that point I think that's a positive. So
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  Speaker 3: they should be better than last year. Maybe I can't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't. I'll just letting you know. This middle of
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  Speaker 3: the Big Ten was so freaking hard to rank. Ah,
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  Speaker 3: they have a decent schedule. I don't think it's that tough.
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  Speaker 3: They put by Michigan, Iowa, and USC and then Penn
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  Speaker 3: State at the end of the year. Better than that,
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  Speaker 3: I think they go win the rest of it. So
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  Speaker 3: now you're looking at that eight and four mark. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: then you have Maryland up next. I was gonna pull
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  Speaker 3: up their schedule. Actually I just closed it, though. I
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  Speaker 3: think they're actually returning a decent amount of talent. I
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  Speaker 3: think they have a pretty favorable schedule as far as
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  Speaker 3: Maryland goes. Their toughest game is going to be against Oregon.
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  Speaker 3: They have Oregon, Penn State, Iowa, and the USC. I
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  Speaker 3: think they could win the rest of them. Honestly, again, Minnesota,
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  Speaker 3: Northwestern Indiana, Villanova, Yukon all very winnable games. Put them
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  Speaker 3: up there. Where's my list? And then here's where it
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  Speaker 3: kind of gets a little tricky. I think I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: put Washington. They lost their head coach, he went to Alabama.
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  Speaker 3: They lost a lot of their talent that transferred out.
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  Speaker 3: They lost a lot of talent they graduated, lost their
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  Speaker 3: starting quarterback, lost their starting wide receiver, lost their other
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  Speaker 3: starting wide receiver. Made the national title last year. I
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  Speaker 3: think it's gonna be a little reminiscent of TCU from
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  Speaker 3: last year, where they just totally dip off Big Ten's tough.
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  Speaker 3: They kind of have a tough schedule. So I have
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  Speaker 3: them right in the middle of the pack at ten.
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  Speaker 3: From there, I'm gonna go with Wisconsin. I think Luke
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  Speaker 3: Fickle is a good head coach. I think they're in
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  Speaker 3: the right path. I don't remember what the record was
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  Speaker 3: last year. I had it written down somewhere.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I've had seven and five.
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  Speaker 3: Is that right? I can't remember there were six and
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  Speaker 3: six or seven and five. But I think they'll improve.
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  Speaker 3: I think they'll make a bowl this year. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you look at their schedule, it's kind of the same
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  Speaker 3: as everyone else. They have Penn State, Iowa, USC. They
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  Speaker 3: do play Alabama, probably gonna lose that one. But I
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  Speaker 3: think they'll probably make a bowl at seven and five,
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  Speaker 3: just like the rest of these guys, are gonna be
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  Speaker 3: right there at the middle of the pack. Number you're
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  Speaker 3: Nebraska corn Huskers. I know you thought they're gonna be
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  Speaker 3: number one. They're not. I think we also have a
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  Speaker 3: favorable schedule. We'll talk a lot more about the Huskers.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even spend too much time while they're number eight.
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  Speaker 3: Did you then? I have Rutgers number seven. Spicy little
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  Speaker 3: year for Rutgers. We've talked about this again. Favorable schedule,
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  Speaker 3: they return a lot of talent. Gray Gianna's still there.
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  Speaker 3: It's really just their schedule that's kind of tasty to
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  Speaker 3: look at. It's they play USC as their only preseason
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  Speaker 3: ranked opponent, Howard Aker in Virginia Tech, Washington, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Ucla, Minnesota, Maryland, Illinois,
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  Speaker 3: with Michigan State. They could win all of those games
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  Speaker 3: except for no. They could win all those games straight up. Could.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think they will, but it's such a nice
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  Speaker 5: schedule it's tough not to put them in the top seven.
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  Speaker 5: I almost wanted to bump them up to the top five,
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  Speaker 5: but I didn't know if we were going totally based
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  Speaker 5: off where we expect them to end or based off talent.
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  Speaker 5: So I threw them at number seven. Number six. I
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  Speaker 5: have you Iowa, I will said USC. I think they'll
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  Speaker 5: be improved from last year. They'll still bring a great defense,
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  Speaker 5: offense can't be any worse, and they were really.
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  Speaker 3: Good last year with the shitty offense. So there you
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  Speaker 3: have it. Six. I got USC number five. I think
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people are down on them just because
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  Speaker 3: of their defense. I think Whencoln Riley's a good offensive coach,
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  Speaker 3: dak you can't say anything yet, but I do think
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  Speaker 3: they're gonna have a really good offense. They have a
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  Speaker 3: great wide receiver of good skill positions. I think it
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  Speaker 3: slightly improved defense will go a long ways. Obviously, the
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  Speaker 3: Big ten's a little bit tougher, but I do think
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  Speaker 3: they're top five in the Big Ten. Number four I
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  Speaker 3: have Michigan lost their head coach, lost their starting quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 3: still returning quite a few key players from their championship
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  Speaker 3: team last year. I think part of their championship team
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  Speaker 3: last year was a little bit of a I want
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  Speaker 3: to say, a fluke, but they didn't blow anyone out offensively,
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  Speaker 3: and I think they're gonna take a step back offensively,
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  Speaker 3: so they're probably gonna lose a couple more of those
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  Speaker 3: defensive battles, all right. Number three Penn State. They have
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  Speaker 3: an arguab one of the best quarterbacks that Franklin's had
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  Speaker 3: coaching at Penn State. They got a new offensive coordinator.
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  Speaker 3: They're trying to spruce up. They've always had a good defense.
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  Speaker 3: They usually have great linebackers. I really think that they
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  Speaker 3: are in position that they're gonna They're actually gonna do
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  Speaker 3: something this year. I think their schedule is not too
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  Speaker 3: much of a gauntlet.
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  Speaker 2: Where it.
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  Speaker 3: When you look at their schedule, they don't have to
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  Speaker 3: play Michigan this year. They play Ohio State and USC,
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  Speaker 3: but the rest of their schedule very winnable, and they
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  Speaker 3: could even win USC, and they could win Ohio State.
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  Speaker 3: Number one and two, I'm gonna go with number two,
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  Speaker 3: the Ohio State Buckeyes. I really think Oregon's really freaking good. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: the Buckeys are really good. They got Chip Kelly at
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  Speaker 3: the offensive, Will Howard coming in a transfer quarterback. They
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  Speaker 3: returned to a ton of their starters last year. Still
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  Speaker 3: upset that they lost to Michigan. But Morgan's really freaking good,
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  Speaker 3: and I think that they're the best team at the conference.
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  Speaker 3: That's it. That's what I got. How's my time, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't time yet, Dak. I'll let you unload on
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  Speaker 1: the Lincoln Riley.
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  Speaker 4: I'll say it for my, uh my rankings, it'll kind
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  Speaker 4: of tie in there.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting is it's interesting? I think you highlighted a lot
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  Speaker 2: of similar thoughts, but we definitely have some differences when
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  Speaker 2: I get to mine, I do agree like there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of jumble teams here that as I met before,
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  Speaker 2: there's six.
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  Speaker 3: Through fifteen could honestly.
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  Speaker 4: Go the middle could go anyway.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I should say seven through fifteen could really go anyway,
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  Speaker 3: and even you might be able through it for doing there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just there's a lot of variability and a
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  Speaker 2: lot of it's going to come down to I think
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  Speaker 2: quarterback play. A couple of things, like when I get
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  Speaker 2: to my rankings too, that I am trying to score
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  Speaker 2: a little higher, is returning production and just consistency from
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  Speaker 2: the year before. I think the transfer portal obviously is
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  Speaker 2: everywhere now, but a lot of these teams there's just
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  Speaker 2: so many newcomers.
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  Speaker 1: And the transfer portal is good.
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  Speaker 2: But I think teams that are able to retain and
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  Speaker 2: return people, I think are going to have a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of an edge. Dak any other comments on Austin's
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  Speaker 2: ratings or you just want to.
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  Speaker 1: Jump in.
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  Speaker 4: I think I think a lot of this has to
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  Speaker 4: do with schedule. Yes, it's a lot of teams either
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  Speaker 4: got really screwlized schedule or got really easy schedules. You
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  Speaker 4: just want to miss those top four to five teams.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I will say this too, like I didn't
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  Speaker 2: factor schedule into mine. There's two ways of doing rankings, right,
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  Speaker 2: finishing order based on record and play, which it sounds
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  Speaker 2: like since you're factoring in the schedule, it's kind of
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  Speaker 2: where you landed.
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  Speaker 1: I was just doing more power ranks and teams and
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  Speaker 1: where I have them.
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  Speaker 2: So that's why we differ a little bit. But that's
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  Speaker 2: the beauty of rankings. It's all someone's opinion. There's a
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  Speaker 2: reason why they have them where they have them.
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  Speaker 4: So how does I would never play any of those
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  Speaker 4: top teams?
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  Speaker 1: They get a lucky ass schedule every year.
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  Speaker 4: Every I guess they played Penn State and they got
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  Speaker 4: their doors kicked off.
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  Speaker 1: But oh man, all right, Dak floors yours?
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  Speaker 4: All right? I told I told Hans earlier. Most it's
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  Speaker 4: just off field a lot, not a whole lot of research.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just gonna do it off the top here, all right.
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  Speaker 4: Number eighteen Indiana. I think similar to you I saw, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: I did this three tiered here. This bottom tier is
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  Speaker 4: eighteen through twelve. It's the ass tier. I think all
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  Speaker 4: these teams are gonna suck. I think these all there's
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  Speaker 4: I don't think anyone makes a bowl game on these
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  Speaker 4: up to twelve. Okay, so Indiana's gonna be awful. I
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  Speaker 4: like you said, they haven't had done anything since Michael
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  Speaker 4: Pennix got a brand new coach. I don't. I think
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  Speaker 4: it's to be a long time to leave me sniff
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  Speaker 4: a ball game next one Michigan State. When you were talking,
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  Speaker 4: I thought about I probably surely put them higher because
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: they did fight hard at the end for that new coach.
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  Speaker 4: I think they were just dumb mel Tucker, But I
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  Speaker 4: still don't think they have the talent yet.
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  Speaker 1: Bill.
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  Speaker 4: They're only come up though a little bit U se La.
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  Speaker 4: Now they're terrible team. He's spawn a three. Might might
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  Speaker 4: not even win more than three games next to Northwestern
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  Speaker 4: new coach. Their team that always could sneak up on people,
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  Speaker 4: I guess, but I don't see it this year. They
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  Speaker 4: The thing with them is their max is always seven
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  Speaker 4: to eight wins, and I guess they didn't make a
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  Speaker 4: big than championship a couple of years ago. But I
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  Speaker 4: don't know. I don't think they're gonna be very good Maryland,
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: all right, I gotta ask you guys, is to Layo
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  Speaker 4: whatever his name is, he back.
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  Speaker 1: Nope, he's not.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, that's why I thought he So he's gone.
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  Speaker 4: He was basically the only reason why they were even
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  Speaker 4: decent last year. So he's gone. I don't know, I
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: don't I don't see them really doing anything without him.
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  Speaker 4: He carried their team to six seven wins last year.
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  Speaker 4: Nexcellent Illinois Beilima. They always have and he's always sneaky.
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  Speaker 4: I just think that they have the talent to compete.
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  Speaker 4: Who knows, though, he could always pull something that was
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  Speaker 4: ass and put put a good team together, and then
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  Speaker 4: we got Purdue. I actually think they're gonna be decent
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  Speaker 4: this year. I like cuttson cards quite a bit. Their
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: defense was not off or it was better last year
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  Speaker 4: than the year before, So that's getting better. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I could see them sneaking up higher than what we think. Actually.
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  Speaker 1: Next one, Iowa, do you see me hook the horns?
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  Speaker 1: No huts in card Iowa?
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  Speaker 4: At eleven he went to Texas. Yeah, he was the backup.
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  Speaker 3: Remember he played against Alabama.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Though, I sadly I think he's actually decent
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  Speaker 4: for Purdue, all right. Next one Iowa. This is solely
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: off of did you guys see Cade McNamara's stat line
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  Speaker 4: in the scrimmage gam No. Seven to twenty one, no
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  Speaker 4: touchdowns in a pick in the scrimmage last Saturday. So
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: maybe Deacon Hill's the option there. Who knows. I hope
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: that they get dead last than Big ten and they
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: shut down the program. The worst team ever to watch,
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: all right, that's in Minnesota. They're gonna be totally different
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: offense they had. They had AK four to seven last
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: year and then Tanner Morgan year before, just two drop
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: back passers. Now they have a running quarterback, so it'll
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: be completely different. It'll be good change up. I guess
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: yah they're doing. They're always good at wide receiver, their
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: defense always saw. I think they're pretty much guaranteed six
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: seven wins with PJ Fleck every year. Next one Rutgers,
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: which I thought about putting higher too. They their schedule
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: is so easy, like you said, I and I actually
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: I like their quarterback lot I cannot think what his
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: name is. God damn it, Yeah, you.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Just says name with mint Oh gallig manis no. AK
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: forty seven transfer.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: He's not starting over with smidt.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: They said they don't know yet.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: Wow. Okay, well that'd be a mistake anyway. Okay, I'm
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: doing this off with mint start. I think it can
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: force even sucks. But their schedule is so easy. I
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: don't think you got to be that good a team
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: to win eight games last schedule next one USC not
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: much explaining here. I don't think Lincoln was gond coach Washington.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: After that, they lost a lot. I still think their talents.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: I think they have enough talent to be good this year.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I probably I probably should have put
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: washed it a little bit lower, but they lost so much.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: Screw it all right, Nebraska number six. I think that's
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: another thing. Their schedules so easy. This all depends on
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: Ryola two. If he's super good, he could you could
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: easily move him in the top five. If he sucks, you
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: could drop down around that. Illinois, Maryland, Northwestern Point. It's
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: all about that. I think your defense still gonna be solid.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: I don't. I think your offensive line is a big
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: thing too. I don't think it's gonna be as bad
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: as what everyone says. It's awful in the cultural ball game,
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: but way, okay, Wisconsin number five, I think I'm big
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: on Tyler Van Dyke. I know he sucked last year
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: in Miami. Before that, though, he was super good. I
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: think he just got intoed last year. And I think
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: Luke Fickle is gonna bring it out in him. I
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: don't know he felt he fell part of Miami. I
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: think he is the third best quarterback in Big Ten.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: Next one, Penn State. I'm not as high on Sean
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: Clifford as everybody else is. Oh my God, not Sean Clifford.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: Jesus Lord, Drew Allard. Okay, Sean, that's about two years ago.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: I'm not big. I'm not as big on him. I
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: don't think. I don't think he's that good of a
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: quarterback like pastor everybody so high on him. He reminds
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: me of God, damn it, who was the guy that
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: had a couple of years ago, Christian Hackenberg. Sean Clifford.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: Shaan Cliffer is better than I think Sean Cliffer is
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: better than these two. I And then you got James Franklin.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: Can't win a big game save his life. So that's
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: that's about their max is four every year. Next toll
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: Ohio State. I don't I don't think Ryan Day is
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: a good coach either. That dude got handed everything, he
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: has nothing anything with it. I think Michigan still owns
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: them and will continue on them. Then we got shegain
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: number two. I don't think they're I don't think people
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: think they're me bad. But I think they're gonna be
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: better than people are saying because they still got Donovan Edwards.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: I know they lot JJ McCarthy a lot on defense
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: and their coach, but but how that interim coach came
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: in bid ohoose date, So I don't think the coaching
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: is that big of a deal. Losing Harbob excell Oregon.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: They are absolutely stacked for sure on offense. Their defense
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: is okay, that's all They're gonna need that offense. And
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: you got my boy dg run the ship. He's won
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: of the best Quarterbacks Nation.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm just gonna say this, it's so hard to
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: sit here and listen to DAK and not comment because
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: you just make some so many bold, just random comments,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: and I'm just like, what the hell Tyler Van best
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: quarterback in the Big ten?
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: He is?
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Well, you got Will Howard and Dylan Gabriel ahead of him. No,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: who are the other two.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, yeah, it was Yeah, Will Howard and him.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: What about USC's quarterback? I can't think of his.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: Name, Nope, I mean that who else would you?
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Gold Meyer, Hudson, car Dylan, Kate McNamara.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: Kate mccamary, even gonna start, he'll start. I'm gonna go
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: back and watch the highlight tape tonight about scrimmage and
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: I'll report back to you guys, how that was.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Awesome either comments.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Gosh, I feel like you're really highing Purdue and I
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: think their schedule is not great.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you going off your gut, I think. I mean
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: it's not a bad thing, right. I mean, research can
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: do some for you. But with my research and.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: Just a little little research, not much.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I got some different opinions here from you.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Do plays Notre Dame, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Illinois, Oregon, Northwestern, Ohio State,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Penn State, Michigan State, Indiana, and based off your rankings,
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: they would be Indiana, Michigan State, and Northwestern.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: I haven't run a ball game they could.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, I think anyone in that basically eight seven to
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: seven to fifteen market play.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: A ball game every tiving the bottom teams, because some
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: one of those teams could go winless.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: I think those bottom three suck ass, Like there's nowhere
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: around that.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well we'll see all.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah you go. I'm still digesting this.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: I can't read my notes because my lightings like orange
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: in here. I wrote an orange pen, so that was
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: kind of dumb. Speaking of Purdue, I had them at
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: the bottom. I also part of my research was their
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: win totals. I didn't go solely off of that, but
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: I did look at that Purdue has the lowest win
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: total three and a half. So Dak he should be
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: going to the casino and hammer in the harbor. Yeah,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Hudson card quarterback Makaby's back at running backs since like
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: he's been there forever. Walter's their head coach second year.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: If he's a defensive guy from Illinois. That's why Illinois
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: defense is so good a couple of years ago. If
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: he can implement that here in year two, then Purdue
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: is gonna climb this list. Like all those teams you
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: just mentioned are all teams that they are gonna need
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: to win to be above this, and I think they can,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: but I just don't know if they're great.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Right above them.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: I had Indiana and I'm gonna laugh because we're probably
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: gonna go out to Bloomington and lose because I'm going
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: to the game. But here they are curse Signetti. I
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: think here's why I have him so low. I think
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: he did what Scott frosted at Big ten media Days
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: and just put a giant target on his back and
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: everyone's going to come out and beat the shit out
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: of them after. I can't remember the exact words, but
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: basically saying that don't judge based off last year, blah
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: blah blah, We're here to do our thing, and I
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: don't know, basically it was arrogant and trying to build
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: confidence in his team. But I think it's gonna come
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: back to backfire. That's why I kept them so low. Northwestern,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: I have here at sixteen, don't know who their quarterback is.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: They do return seven on defense, David Brown comes back.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: I just think it's going to be a little longer
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: for them to if they even can rebuild their Fitzgerald
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I think with a big.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Reason why they hung around and were so good.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: I think I just I've always liked Fitzgerald as a
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: coach there went till this five and a half. I
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: think again, if things pieced together, well, I think they
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: could be better than that. But right now I have
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: them sixteen fifteen. I have the Bruins. Yes, I have
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: the Bruins similar reasons that you guys had. Charon Moore
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: has not been a head coach yet. I think that's
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: gonna be pretty evident, especially coming to the Big Ten,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: where a lot of it is about game management, ball control.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I do think the Pac twelve teams are going to
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: bring a little bit of a different element to the
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Big Ten. But this is one team that I think
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: it's going to take a long time to adapt and
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: I just don't see them being good. I mean, Austin
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: you had them last. I don't think that's out of
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: the realm of possibility. But again, Ucla I think could
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: be okay. They're gonna have California athletes, but they they
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: lost a lot, a lot of guys transferred out. And
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: also all the Big Ten teams are gonna want to
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: travel to LA and go to the Rose Bowl for
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: those games, so UCLA doesn't get any fans there to
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: begin with. They're really not gonna have many home games. Yeah,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: that's enough on UCLA fourteen. This is a last minute
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: change right before the pod. It actually c lins up
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: with dak Is Maryland. I like Mike Loxley as a
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: head coach, but I do think their offense was sprung
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: by Tegavailoa. They have to get a new quarterback, they
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: have to get a new running back, they have to
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: replace four offensive linemen.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: They did not have a great defense last year or
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: the year before that. They're known to score points. I
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: think there's that lack of continuity that's gonna hurt. So
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: I moved them down last minute.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Spartans are who I got next at thirteen. There's a
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: completely new offensive line there, so I don't love that
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: they did get a ton of transfers. I have them
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: ahead of some of these other first year coaches because
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: I do think Jonathan Smith has potential to be better
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: than them. I think what he did at Oregon State
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: was pretty impressive. He had a pretty decent offensive style
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: out there. But I think we'll bring a new twist
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: to the Big Ten. It's going to be kind of
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: a mix of run the ball, throw the ball, and
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: I think it'll be a little bit tough to prepare for.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: So I have Michigan State a little higher than you
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: guys did. At twelve, here's where I got the Washington Huskies.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: And I didn't realize this until I was listening doing research. Guys,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: they lost everybody they have.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I think I.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Heard two returning starters from last year's team on both
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: sides of the ball. Combined, they a lot of guys transfer.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: They did get guys to transfer, and Will Rogers will
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: be their quarterback. I think that's a positive for them.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Jed Fish coming from Arizona, I think they're also going
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: to just struggle coming over to the Big ten, just
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: like you cla As I mentioned. It's funny they make
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: the playoffs, but they're all gone. Everybody's gone everybody, so
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be a complete reset. I do think they
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: can still beat some of these teams here at the bottom,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: but I don't.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: They're still toss ups. Are a little bit of a
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: toss up for me. At eleven.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Is where I bring in Brett Bielima and Illinois. They
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: got to figure their defense out and get it back
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: to where it was a couple of years ago. Luke Altmeyer,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: I think is they're gonna go on offenses.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: He goes.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: I think he's got some talent so I do think
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: they could be okay. They do run the ball a lot.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: I do like Beilama as a coach. I think he
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: understands a big ten. I like them in games against Wisconer, Washington, Ucla,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: even USC like.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I like them.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: I don't even know if they play them, but I
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: like them in those spots. At ten, I got Minnesota PJ. Fleck,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: I think could be on the hot seat getting there. Potentially,
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: we'll see, but I think they're gonna win seven games.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: They do return eight guys on defense, Max brosmer Dak
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: you mentioned him coming run even quarterback. They are turned
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: four offensive lineman continuity. They're important for me at number nine.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Here's where I drop us. Here's the deal with us.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: I think we have better talent than a lot of
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: these teams. It's can we not turn the ball over?
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: It's can we game manage. I think we're better than
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: these teams talent wise, but in the past we have
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: not shown to consistently beat them. But I still think
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: it's deserving it to put us at nine, especially with Rayola,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: who again, we can't get worse at quarterback. Eight Chiano
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Scarlet Knights, Rutgers. We all had them pretty high. Maybe
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: that's something we should be looking at a little bit
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: at the casinos. But their win total, I forgot to
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: do this for the rest of the teams, but they're
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: six and a half win total. I like their over
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: big time. Their schedule's cake. I think if it plays
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: out right, they could have a chance to even making
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: the title game if they win some of their games.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: At they're fifty to fifty end so and that's one
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: of those.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Being Nebraska seven. Let's see, I'm gonna go USC. I
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: think they're gonna have a little bit of a shock.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Like these other PAC twelve teams, I think physicality might
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: be an issue. I just see them going around seven
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: to five, eight and four. I think their win totals
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: YEP at seven and a half, right above them.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: I have Wisconsin. I don't know.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: For some reason, I always think Wisconsin's better than they
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: probably are probably another eight eight win team Luke Fickle.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: I still think they just stuck to more of the
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: run game because they're known for they lose Braylan Allen,
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: but I think they have chess and the lucy back.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Van Dyke. We'll see experiment Dak.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm as high as you are
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: on him at number five, visit the Iowahaw guys. Schedules cake.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Their offense cannot get worse. Defense is really solid. That's
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: why mcnamarow is seven for twenty one. DAC is because
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: they're playing against a damn good defense. So Iowa at five.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: At four, Michigan lost a lot more than I think
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: everybody realizes. Donovan Edwards, yes is back. Can Orgy throw
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: the ball? Alex Orgy their quarterback and they don't even
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: know if he's starting. They're going to have to run
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: the ball a lot. They return zero zero zero offensive
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: lineman At three Penn State and Indie Lyons.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: You mentioned it.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Drew Howler is a key for them. They're a ten
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: win team. I mean, that's just what they do every year.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: I think they'll probably have a chance to squeaking in
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: the playoffs. Tom Allen's their new decordinator comes over from Indiana.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: I think they have a solid running back. Their offensive
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: coordinator this year new coordinator came from Kansas. Here's where
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: I have different than you guys, and I feel pretty
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: good about it. I got Ohio State one, and the
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: only thing that scares me on that is. There might
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: be a little pressure for Ryan Day this year obviously
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: for not beating Michigan. I think they're gonna get that done.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: They return a crap ton nine starters on defense, plus
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: added three starters in the portal their turn four offensive
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: line starters, Will Howard coming in quarterback. You guys know
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: I'm a big Will Howard fan. Their biggest transfer head
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: is the offensive coordinator, Chip Kelly, stealing them from UCLA.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: I just think Ohio States prime to make a run.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Oregon I do think is gonna be solid. I think
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: they're just gonna I think they're gonna slip up in
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: a game to a traditional Big Ten team that they shouldn't.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: I know I went over my time, but we got
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: a little bit of discussion.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Uh, we all have the same top half except for
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: dak who has USC and Iowa have Iowa out of
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: the top half and Washington.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: But I take I might be higher and washing Now
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: I take back when I said about Van Dyke mean
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: top Will Rogers adopted the quarterback in LinkedIn great.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: They lost every other player on their team from last year.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not great. We'll see. I guess.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: That will be interesting.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: I think just there's a lot of similarities, but I
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: think there's some different teams here, and we can highlight
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: that as we get in the Nebraska schedule. Next episode,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: we will do a ranking of our twelve games of importance.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: We had some very differing opinions from last year. Some
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: are right somewhere wrong, so we'll get to that next week.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Go Begret, CVR, remember sooner.