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We are Talking Baseball, North Jersey sports.com's original
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multimedia series talking all things baseball across North
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Jersey. This is episode 2 of the 2026
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high school baseball season. I am Corey Doviak being joined
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by now my long time partner in crime and they have many titles
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but less than it used to have. He is the he is Joe Sottero.
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What's going on, Joe? What's up core?
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You know, I, I, I don't, I don't hold that title.
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This is this is my free time. Like I I, I don't I don't have I
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am not the DuMont athletic director when we're doing this
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show. I, you know that that is this is
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you introduced me. That is my that is my
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occupation, but that is, is not how I am.
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I'm representing DuMont. I am representing no one.
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But all right, North Jersey sports.com.
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So I'm on my way home, driving home from a nice win over
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DuMont. DuMont pulled it out over
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Demarest 76 and 8 innings. Wow.
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And at yeah, Corey, a great win. You know, Demarest fought back.
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DuMont fought back. It was it was a great baseball
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game. And Corey, you know what we did
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to celebrate after we won? You got to tell me.
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We popped bottles of on the noun on the noun.
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At Demarest, we popped bottles of champagne.
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It sounds like that's in vogue nowadays across North Jersey.
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I mean, apparently, according to various social media accounts,
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it seems like the thing to do. That's what I'm hearing.
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That's the rumor. And you know, maybe we're
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getting a new, a new TikTok fat, fat or something, you know, who
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knows? You never.
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Know, but it it was a good win. It was a good win.
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All right, so here let me let me just set this thing up.
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And first of all, now, if you're listening to this show, those
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beeps that you heard at the beginning were me beeping out
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Joe Cetera's full time occupation.
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So we'll put those in there. And also we have to talk about.
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So let's just set up what's coming out of the show.
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We got a lot of issues to talk about because so many things
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here, some are, some are big, some are small.
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We did effort to have Paul Albarella on.
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He is the Northern Highlands head coach.
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He was going to join us after his game tonight.
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He got hung up. So you know, no hard feelings.
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We appreciate the effort. But I just wanted to mention
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that Northern Highlands celebrating the 10 year
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anniversary of their last eight sectional championship in the
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section final that I was at against around Paul.
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So that's what we were going to talk about because the kid who
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hit the then kid who hit the game-winning home run and that
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flipped into the netting above the backstop at.
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Rally, I remember that. The bat flip was like 30 feet in
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the air. I remember that.
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I remember that. I was at the game, I wrote the
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story and the kid who did it is now the head coach at Paramus.
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So Highlands celebrated their, you know, they played Paramus
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yesterday and they looked back finally on that.
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So that was the idea. That's not going to happen, but
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that's OK because we got a lot of other stuff to talk about
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here. We guys flip bats.
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Anymore, Corey, there's no more bats flipping.
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We flip bottles of champagne bottle service.
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Crazy. All right, let's talk a few
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things here about high school baseball.
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But before we do it, I got to tell you, so, you know, I
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haven't been able to cover as many games as I would have liked
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at the start of the season because I have other
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responsibilities. You know, there's 4 N jersey
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sports.com and then there's four feet graphics.
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So 4 feet graphics is always busy at the beginning of his
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seasons. We're doing team shots, head
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shots, getting stuff out for in fact, you know, we're doing some
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DuMont athletic photos tomorrow, you know, and getting stuff to
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yes, 3:00 Thursday, right, Joe? We got all the teams lined up.
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Everybody's ready to go. We got baseball, we got G4 Feet
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graphics took care of all that. So anyway, yeah, Anyway, so one
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of my you know, New Jersey sports.com will pick up the the
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beat as soon as that stuff is finished.
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But Saturday morning I was called to duty for four feet
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graphics. I had to take some photos of a
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baseball team going to make those banners for their seniors
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or whatever. And I pull into the parking lot
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at 10:30 and I get at 10:26 and I get an e-mail that my 10:30
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appointment has been pushed to about 11:00 when the kids are
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done hitting. Okay, so you know Joe, I am not
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going to just sit down. I'm a busy guy.
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I got a lot of things to do. I can't I 3034 minutes or 46
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minutes as it turned out. It's just I, I that's idle time.
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I can't have it. I got stuff to do.
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So I said, you know what, I'm going to go run some errands and
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make this a productive day. So I was looking around for a
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field to throw my discs. You know my I have a OCD and a
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very terrible disc golf habit so.
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Saturday. Morning, beautiful weather on my
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feet. Go for a fine place, throw my
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discs. You know, there's not a lot of
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open space in Bergen County. I don't know if you no realize
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that, so I do. I didn't find anywhere to go and
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I'm like, you know what, I have a couple of minutes to kill.
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I'm going to Coaches Corner, our sponsor on talking baseball here
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on North Jersey sports.com. I'm going to go see what's
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doing. We talked about it all last week
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and it was all blind. You know, you brought it up.
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I didn't know even know the names of the proprietors and the
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participants and the new venture.
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But I certainly do appreciate a locally owned business in North
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Jersey. I mean, I am a local business
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owner myself, been doing it for, you know, many years and I know
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it's not easy out there, right. So you want to help out the
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people who are taking a step in that direction to be their own
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boss, to open their own place? I love it.
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I want to support. And I go into Coach's Corner.
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They are the nicest people. And Joe, this is all I'm going
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to say. Yeah.
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First of all, the sandwiches are great.
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It's all about the bread. It is Corey, and you want to
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know something? It's funny that you say that
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because last week, what did I say when we talked about Coach's
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Corner? What?
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What was I emphatic about? It's all about the bread.
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The first thing you said all about the bread and then we'll.
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Hear about the ad that. We ran for the front of the
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show. If you know, you know, it's all
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about the bread. So we go in there right now.
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Now wait. I just want to add too, because
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this does have a North Jersey sports bent to it because
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Coach's Corner, they actually walked in.
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There's a picture of DuMont wrestling coach Chris Potato
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right up on the big screen there, and they're doing weekly.
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You pick a coach, the coach makes his sandwich, They put his
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name up on the board. I mean, all kids decide they're
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tying North Jersey high school sports into a local
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establishment. So I love it from that angle as
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well. And we're going to be able to
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nominate other coaches. I mean, I might even put Joe
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Sottera up there. I mean, you did win 199.
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Games right yeah Corey, you know it's it's it's I don't need a
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sandwich. I I don't need I don't even
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know. I don't even know what I would
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do because the coach gets the the coach gets to pick build the
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sandwich themselves, which is great.
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And then in addition to I think they do it for the month, though
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it's not it's not just for. A week.
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They, they, they. Do it for the for the month.
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But back to the all about the bread.
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So, you know, you went there. One, I was driving by, I think
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it was last Saturday. I'm driving by and I'm like, you
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know what? I was at the gym in Bergenfield.
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I go like, let me stop and get a couple sandwiches and bring them
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home. But it's about 10:20 in the
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morning, so I walk in there and what do I see?
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But these influencers, they're in there influencers, right?
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Influencers, I told when I walked in.
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I said cameras off I. Don't want to be?
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Go ahead, I'll beep it. I don't want.
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To that's what I said, though, that I'm telling you the story.
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I said I don't want to be on stop filming me.
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I don't want to be. I wound up on their little thing
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anyway. These guys were great.
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They were great like apparently they got thousands upon
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thousands of followers. They go to delis all over the
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place. They were fantastic, right doing
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doing their job, promoting a great place like coach's Corner
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deli. But you know, you know what they
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did, though, Corey. What did they do you?
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Know what they did? They they stole.
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It's all about the bread. So they do their little
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Instagram thing and at the end of it they use it as if they
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develop this big. It's all about the bread.
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That was us buddy, that was us. And they stole it from us.
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And guess what? Like 13,000 people saw it and
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heard it and I have a problem with that.
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I have a problem with that too. And as much as we love the
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Coach's Corner and as much as I love my Italian hero and my wife
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loved the tuna hero, fresh tuna on the great bread, we're going
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to have to see. We have to see.
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Copyright infringement. Isn't it?
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Yes, it certainly is sponsoring talking baseball here at North
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Jersey sports.com. All right, let's talk about some
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things now. You know, and the crazy thing
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about the baseball season is that it it builds up fast.
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You know, like the basketball season is a marathon.
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The baseball season is a Sprint. And we've been going back and
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forth over the, you know, over the week like, hey, we got to
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talk about these things. There are some issues big and
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small. So let's talk about it.
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First of all, let's start out one of the Wilder result that we
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see this year. Last week it was Rutherford
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against Saint Mary's deal. 14 innings of high school baseball.
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Crazy. It was yeah, yeah, I, I don't
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even know. I think it was, I forget if it
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was 4 hours and, and 50 minutes. Like I, I, I don't know how long
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the game was, but you know, for, for two teams, I mean teams they
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use they, you know, 7 pitchers and eight.
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It's it's just and, and, and that's what like games like
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that, you know, obviously you come up on the short end, it's
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disappointing or whatever, but but that's what, that's what
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high school baseball is, is, is all about, because now these two
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teams have to go out core after, you know, I think the game was
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on a Thursday. I don't remember if they played
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Friday, but they definitely played Saturday and both teams
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used seven arms. Like what, what do you do?
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What are you doing? You know, like, how do you what,
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what do you do? How do you piece that together?
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Like you're in the game, you know, you know, you're going to
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have games on the backside now, you know, in, in the coming
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days. So you got a kid that's in there
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who might be throwing pretty good.
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Then you got to keep him under a certain count, maybe to bring
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him back either tomorrow or that he'll so he only needs only a
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day so that you can bring him back on Saturday.
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It's it's a nightmare. But but you know, a a kudos to
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both of those things, you know, battling it out like that and
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then coming back and, you know, and, and playing within the next
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day or so and stretching themselves in, you know, they,
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they, they battled and, you know, did it the right way.
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Yes, you know, yes, that's one side of it that's going after
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it. That's trying to everything you
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can running through the bullpen call.
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Probably about somewhere around the 8th inning they called up
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the JV coaches saying hey, how many kids are?
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Available. I think I yeah, I think Spina
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had to go to the mound so many times that he had to sit in a
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lawn chair for the for the 10th, 10th through the 14th inning.
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I heard he I heard he was exhausted.
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I heard he was exhausted. He got all his steps in.
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I love him, I love them. So on the other side of the
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coin, you have games that happen like another game in the NJIC,
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well, including an NJIC team, You know, Glenrock played Indian
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Hills in a non conference game and I give both teams credit for
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playing it. You know, like it shows that
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they're trying to make the Bergen County tournament because
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they're scheduling tough outside their league and not just, you
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know, with no 650 anymore. They got it.
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You have to have a quality schedule, even if even if the
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record, you know, strength of schedule nowadays much more
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important than overall record because you you you know,
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overall record. If you're playing in one of the
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lower divisions in the NJA, I see now that they separated by
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previous success. You're not getting in even with
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a with a, you know, 11 and one or or 15 and two, you know,
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whatever. You know what I'm talking about.
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Anyway, so they decided to play, which is great, and then they
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get into the 9th inning and then they decided to not to play
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anymore. That's on the other side of the
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coin of the Rutherford St. Mary game was the thing where
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you know what, maybe we bit off a little bit more than we can
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chew. We don't want to go through our
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bullpens. We don't want to run 7 guys.
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We don't want to call the JV coach and let's just call it a
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tie. Now you can certainly see the
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logic behind it, but Joe. No, you can't see the logic
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behind it. There's no there's no, there's
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no logic behind it. And and I'll be you know, I, I,
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I got I spoke to Steve Spilleri and coach from Glen Hawk and I
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not saying anything on the show that I didn't say to him.
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I'm like you guys, you guys got to finish the game.
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You can't you can't not stop the game whether you know they they
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agreed or not. And, and the problem is though,
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that like, you know, now if, if, if sanctions are going to be
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imposed or penalties are going to be imposed, like what do you
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do there? Do do both teams get a loss?
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Does, you know, does it does it go against you in terms of like
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when it comes down to the county tournament, do you count that as
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not a game played? You know, but the the reality of
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it is, is you can't, you can't punish one team and and not the
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other. And you know, I understand that
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your arms are thin or whatever, but you know, my own experience
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of the year, every day we're, we're doing it with two legit 22
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starters, two kids that start and then a bunch of athletes
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that need to pitch because we don't have any more.
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And, and you know, when and we're not listening.
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Dumas are not unique. There's a lot of teams that are
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doing, there's a there's a lot of teams that are doing it and
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credit to them. But but you know, again, on the
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flip side of that, now, if you're playing one of those two
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teams that decided to stop playing, if you're playing them
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on on Saturday or, you know, whatever the hell you were
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supposed to play them, you're supposed to play them on Monday.
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You know, I'm sitting there going, oh, what, what do you
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mean? You guys just just stop.
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You know what guys? You know, if it's, if it's 4/4
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in the in the in the 5th inning today, let's just call it, let's
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just call it a tie. And you can't that, that, that
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that cannot happen. It cannot happen.
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And I don't know, you know, anything other than, you know,
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my conversation and, and the fact that it was, you know,
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pretty straightforward. It, it, it couldn't, it
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shouldn't have happened, you know, and, and on on the other
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side of it too. It's got nothing to do with
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umpires. It it's.
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Well, that was my culture because I I know you are a
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certified umpire. Is there any?
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I used to be. I used to be.
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You let it lapse, right? But I mean, if you're there and
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they say, you know what, hey Blue, that's enough for us.
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What so, so here's the situation.
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You're you're the, the two schools are represented by their
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head coaches and the head coaches are going to make the
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decisions for their team, you know, and, and unless it's, you
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know, lightning, you know, some stuff like that.
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And the umpires have to clear the field.
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What happens if the two coaches said we're done?
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And then the umpire, what's the umpire going to do?
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Force you to put nine guys out there?
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And if he, and if he, if he does and a kid takes a line drive off
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his face, now it's now the umpire forced us to play.
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You know, they, they have nothing to do with that.
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They, they, they don't have anything to do with it.
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It's, it's not in their hands that that is, that was, you
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know, that's something that is 2 coaches agree.
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You can't, you can't make an umpire be the scapegoat there.
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And, and I'm not saying, I'm not saying that's what anybody was
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doing, but there was some talk about like, well, what the hell
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do the umpires do? Nothing.
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Nothing. Because it's not their, it's not
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their call, man. Yeah.
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Is the umpire, is the umpire going to tell you who to bring
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in in relief? Is the umpire going to tell you
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when to pinch hit? Like they got nothing to do with
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that? Like they call the game.
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That's it, That's it. So what is the rule from?
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You know, I, I hate to invoke the NJSIA because their rules
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are whatever they say they are, but is there anything?
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Yeah, Is there, Is there like does is there a rule book that
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says, you know, all games must be not affected by weather or
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darkness or these factors must be played?
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Yeah, you have to play, you have to play the game to, to
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completion. And, and I don't know because
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honestly, I don't, I, I, I, I have no, I don't want to
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speculate because it's impossible to speculate on the
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industry or, or you know, anything, you know, anything
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logical. But I, I just, I don't know, but
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I do. I do know that, you know, I
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don't believe it says unless agreed upon, you know, you don't
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have to finish the game. It's, it's you got to play to
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completion. You know, obviously it's
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suspended game, darkness, weather, whatever.
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But you know, yeah, let's get that umpire thing off the table
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because that that's it's got nothing to do with it.
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And then let me ask you from the other side of it, now I know you
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are when as far as the show is concerned, you are not an
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athletic director. But if you were to put on
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athletic director's hat, yes, should say like, you know,
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somebody from MO say like DuMont play a game and the coach says,
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you know what, we've had enough at, you know, after 9 innings of
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of baseball. And then you follow up with
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them, you know, just to put out there on your Instagram or your
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Twitter that the Huskies result for today was and you find out
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that, Oh yeah, we didn't play to a conclusion.
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We just said enough was enough. How would the an administration,
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you know, hypothetically of course the DuMont or any other
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athletic institution handles. Such as, hypothetically, I would
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call my coaching and go, what did you do?
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Yeah. More beats.
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But yes, you're probably right. You.
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You will be right in doing so. You.
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Agreed to stop the game. Like, okay, how about next game,
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you know what we're going to do? We're going to say if you hit
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the ball to the left side of the infield, it's an automatic out.
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Yeah, like in the old days at Lindbergh School at Palisades
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Park, we only had three kids, so if you hit to the right side of
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second base, you were out. Kids don't know that anymore.
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You know why, Corey? Because because there's no more
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competitiveness. There's just complacency.
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That's why kids didn't compete outside of outside of sports
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they signed up for. They didn't go play stickball
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and play. You can't get it to the right
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side. Nobody did it.
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I really don't do anymore. You know what, though, I am, you
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know, I, I longed for the old days when you just, you know,
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you drew the box and all that stuff.
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But what were we doing? Why are we penalizing people for
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going the other way, I mean. That's because because you know,
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a lot of like everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody
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pulls the ball. So everybody wanted to play, you
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know, play. So I mean.
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They didn't want to. It was it was because it's not
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easy to go the other way. I think it's a little it's
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harder to do. So we didn't want to do that.
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We just wanted to, you know, keep it easy and you have to
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pull the ball. If you hit the opposite field,
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you're out. Sit down, I mean.
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When I was in my Ricky Anderson stance, trying to hit a home run
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over Chris, you know, I remember one summer at Palisade Park
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Recreation, we kept stats all summer about.
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I think I hit like 174 home runs one year.
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That's so great. Great.
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But you know what, it does bring up some of the competitiveness
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now, some of the competitiveness issues now at the top of high
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school baseball in North Jersey. And there's a lot of teams off
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to a great start. We should talk to, you know, we
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should go over some of these records because and we will.
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Yeah. But they're starting to become
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like a like a, you know, there's always been bad teams regardless
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of whatever you want to say. You know, some teams are good,
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some teams are bad. It's in that it's in that middle
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where it's starting to get a little bit weird the way with
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the high school sports are going.
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Like, you know, I heard of one situation where there was an
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issue and again, let's not mention any names because this
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is sensitive and this is, you know.
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Right. Not in this case, right?
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Right, yes, this is parent driven stuff, but I I got word
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from somebody. That.
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A parent was at, you know, a senior or two were not having a
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great start to the season. So the coach moved in one
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sophomore and one junior to take start the starting positions of
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the two seniors who who were not playing.
21:30
And the parents are up in arms. Like how?
21:32
How are you going to do this to my son in his senior year?
21:36
Because I'm going to tell you I'm I'm going to tell you what
21:38
part of the problem is. Yeah, it part of the problem is,
21:42
and I've had this conversation with with other coaches, is that
21:46
you don't have a lot of kids that are in a program that want
21:53
to go on and play at the next level, which is which is
21:58
absolutely fine. You don't like, there's nothing
22:00
wrong with having, you know, a very good, a very good high
22:05
school's career. There's nothing wrong with that.
22:08
Plenty of kids have done it. Plenty of kids have done it, you
22:11
know, and plenty of kids didn't go on to play.
22:13
And you still talk about how good of a high school
22:15
basketball, football or baseball player they were and they were
22:19
done. You know, that was OK.
22:21
But but what I think is that a lot of, you know, and as a, as a
22:26
parent, my, you know, myself and I think what happens is a lot of
22:31
people have that this is his senior year.
22:35
You're not doing that to him in his senior year.
22:38
But is, is it, is it about the kids senior year or is it, is it
22:43
about, and this is understandable.
22:45
This is understandable. That's what the parent has to
22:48
hang on to. So, you know, I think if we're,
22:51
if we're looking at it through objective of objective glasses,
22:55
I get that if you're a parent, your kids, he's a senior,
22:58
they've had four years in the program, you know, in most
23:02
cases, but that's what they have to hold on to.
23:06
And I think, you know, when, and that's what makes coaching so
23:09
difficult is you got to make decisions that are, you know,
23:12
what's best for the team. And sometimes that decision is
23:16
that, listen, man, we got a senior that's over 15 with 7
23:19
strikeouts, 4 looking, you know, they're, they're rolling over on
23:23
there. They're just not doing their
23:24
job. I got to sit you down for a few
23:27
and, and I got to put in, you know, a younger kid who's, who's
23:30
doing the job. And then all of a sudden, you
23:33
know, the, the, the, the, the parents and the kids see red.
23:36
This is my senior year. I'm not studying my senior year.
23:39
I'm not being the age for my senior year.
23:40
I'm and, and it's, I get it. I get it.
23:44
But the problem is our kids have to get it.
23:47
And that has to be instilled from, from, you know, the
23:51
parent. And, and I say it a lot too.
23:53
It's unfortunate that these coaches sometimes are, are faced
23:57
with, you know, develop like when, when you're a head coach,
24:00
you've got 16 kids in your lineup.
24:01
You, you got to have, you got 16 different personalities and 16
24:05
different ways you have to communicate to try to keep
24:08
everything together. And I think a lot of times what
24:10
happens is that there's noise that gets into these into these
24:14
kids ears that, you know, you should be playing, you should be
24:17
doing this, you should be doing that.
24:19
And then that, you know, that kid goes to practice and it and
24:21
it hurts that team. It hurts.
24:24
So it's, it's not about that. You know, the, the, the, the
24:27
senior year, you every, no coach wants to have to have to do
24:32
that, but every coach wants to do what's best for his team or
24:35
should want to do what's best for his, his or his team.
24:39
And sometimes that that's called upon to, you know, sit that
24:43
senior and, you know, if it's one game, two games, whatever,
24:48
but you know, it's, it's one or two games.
24:50
And then that sophomore's, you know, 4 for seven.
24:55
So now come, so come back and tell me that the sophomore
24:58
doesn't deserve to play. Why?
25:00
Because it's his fault that he's only 16 and he's a sophomore and
25:03
he's, you know, like it's, it's, it goes out, it goes out the
25:06
window, man. And and you know, it's it's,
25:08
it's a little frustrating because it's.
25:10
Easy to say though, Joe, it's easy to say from from this
25:13
situation, you know, like obviously the better best player
25:16
plays and this, but you have to have the administration lined up
25:21
behind the coach because there are, you know, you know, there
25:24
are some places where a parent starts a or raises an issue and
25:32
it's taken, you know, well, we'll have a meeting.
25:34
We'll have a, instead of being quashed right away where we say,
25:38
well, listen, you know, we hire a coach to make decisions on who
25:41
plays and he's the only one who makes that decision if you know
25:45
it. Because, and again, I, I don't
25:48
want to RIP on parents because like this entire enterprise,
25:51
this whole thing, no, it's, it's high school sports are
25:55
subsidized, are not subsidized, are paid for in full by
25:59
taxpayers. At least public school, high
26:01
school sports are paid for in full by taxpayers.
26:03
So I'm not sitting there saying they don't have a stake in it
26:06
and they don't, you know, everything else.
26:08
But the the issue arises when it's not quashed immediately
26:13
because one parent who gets his foot in the door, it's never
26:18
going to be like, oh, OK, we got that taken care of.
26:20
So we'll stop there and we'll just watch the rest of the
26:23
season. Once that door is cracked, Joe,
26:25
it gets pushed open a little bit more every time.
26:28
And and that's the problem. It is.
26:33
It is a problem. But the, The thing is, it's,
26:35
it's, you know, I, I, I don't, I don't hang anything on that
26:39
taxpayer thing. It's it's listen, coaches.
26:43
You're the best, bro. You know what?
26:46
You know what, taxpayer? Take your, take your money
26:48
somewhere. Else.
26:54
We don't. We don't discuss.
26:56
We don't. You don't discuss playing time,
26:58
right? You don't discuss playing time.
27:00
That's not if. If you know, if the kid is not
27:02
being mistreated because he's being told you're not doing a
27:05
job, you have to sit down. You're you, you got to say it.
27:08
You're, you're not like that's accountability.
27:10
That's not mistreating the kids. That's not taking, that's not
27:13
taking the kids. Junior, senior, whatever year
27:16
away. That's not it.
27:18
That's a guy or an or or a woman doing their job as a coach that
27:24
an athletic director wants to see them do what is best for the
27:28
team. Yeah, what is best for the team.
27:30
And sometimes, and again, we said it as a parent, we see it,
27:34
you know, we, we, we see the, we see the ton of it.
27:37
And I'll take it from, I'll take it from my personal perspective.
27:41
My, my kid Joe last year was not hitting.
27:44
He was not hitting. He was outstanding defensively.
27:48
He did a good job on the mound. You know, he, we all know his
27:52
story, but there was a stretch where he didn't hit for a week
27:56
because somebody else was doing the job.
27:58
And then he was given an opportunity the following week
28:01
and he came back and got two hits.
28:02
So I'm not speaking from somebody who hasn't, you know,
28:06
from, from a glass house like I, I went through it and, and it's,
28:10
it's not an easy thing to do because all you want to see is
28:13
your, your kids succeed. And it's very hard to see for
28:17
some people to see somebody else hold their kid accountable, but
28:20
that's all it. Is now I did it's not even see
28:23
that kids succeed be happy and this is honest the way I but we
28:28
want them just just just be happy that your kid is healthy
28:31
enough to run around everything else.
28:36
Every other thing that comes from it is gravy, you know,
28:40
because 99% of kids the ride ends with high school sports.
28:46
So and don't get my coaches because you, you know, I'm not
28:51
saying that everybody's the best coach in the world, but you
28:54
know, when you say I quit or my parents or this or that in the
28:57
earth thing, the only thing you're damaging is your high
29:00
school series. And 35 years after mine ended,
29:04
I'm still talking about it. So it's obviously an impactful
29:09
thing on the development of young men and women who play
29:12
high school sports. It's important and it's
29:15
important to make the best of every situation.
29:18
And you know, 20 years from now the results don't matter.
29:21
And it doesn't doesn't matter if you were taken out for another
29:24
kid to take your at bat in the 6th day of the game against
29:27
Norway, it doesn't. It doesn't.
29:30
Just grow, you know, it just it's important that it was a
29:34
part of your growing up process. All right, couple of things,
29:37
Joe, before we get to some of these teams that are off to a
29:39
great start, we'll talk about some of them.
29:41
We got to talk about some math. There's good math, there's.
29:44
Good. Math.
29:46
Let me give you the good math first, my friend.
29:49
You know what? I'm going to have to beat that
29:50
because a little birdie has told me inside one specific athletic
29:57
program in North Jersey that a certain coach whose name rhymes
30:02
with Jim Myron, is going for his 600th wounds Friday against the
30:11
Bergen Catholic Crusaders at Breslin Field in Lyndhurst,
30:15
making a long road trip for North Jersey sports.com to get
30:19
down there and cover history. But we will endeavor to do so
30:22
because we have a unnamed source on the inside who's been feeding
30:27
us that inside information and keeping us informed on the
30:30
countdown. Yes, yeah.
30:31
Don't give them up. Don't give them up.
30:33
That's good math, right? Yeah, Yeah.
30:36
Now, Joe Woodridge High School. We know.
30:38
I mean, you, you know, you cut your teeth there.
30:41
I mean, you became an administrator at Woodridge High
30:43
School. We know what kinds of academics
30:45
are, you know Norm. Yes.
30:48
Down there below Route 4. I mean, it's a bastion.
30:52
Oh, I was. There the math scores.
30:53
The math scores were good when I was there.
30:55
They were good, right? So I get a text the other day
30:59
saying, hey, you might want to be at the Woodridge Athletic
31:04
Complex, also known as Hashtag rack, for another milestone game
31:10
where a certain. Thought.
31:13
A certain friend of ours and another former title holder a a
31:18
former head muckety muck on the Bergen County Baseball
31:21
Tournament committee was going for a milestone win.
31:25
All plans were made, Joe. I said I have to be in Franklin
31:30
Lakes and then I'm going to fly down Route 208 only so that I
31:34
can sit in traffic on on Route 17.
31:36
So I could get there and switch from 4 feet graphics to North
31:41
Jersey sports.com and do my job Joe and get down to the rack to
31:45
cover it. But then I understand there was
31:49
a math problem with how everything was told about that.
31:52
Do we have Corey confirmation, Corey on the the size of this
31:58
error? Corey, they were.
32:01
They were. They were.
32:04
They were 1515. Sorry.
32:09
So Joe, not one game, not like it wasn't like, oh, he's wasn't,
32:13
it wasn't like, oh, he's at 298, but he's really at, you know,
32:16
299. Nope.
32:19
It was a 15 game error, Lori. How many games are played in the
32:24
high school baseball season? 24 I believe, not including
32:29
States and counties and all that other stuff while you're
32:31
tournaments. They were 15 games old.
32:35
So there's a chance that I might be chasing this story down into
32:38
the 2027 N Jersey high school baseball season.
32:41
Is that correct? Well, we, we would hope that
32:44
because our good friend Mike Carsich, we want to, you know,
32:48
we want to see guys win, you know, whatever.
32:50
Of course, my boy March Sinclair, one of the greatest
32:54
guys ever. 15 games off. Him and Carson together now.
33:00
Now Carson set. The scene for us, Joe, the old,
33:03
the, the office that you used to call home down there at
33:06
Woodridge. All right, So, yeah, yeah, you
33:08
got Mark Sinclair in there and the big boy chair.
33:11
You got Michael, Sir. Michael Carson's coming down,
33:14
you know, racing out of Northern Valley Regional High School at
33:17
Demarest to get down to Woodridge, you know, before we
33:20
get to practice. Hey, Mark, let's just go over
33:22
set the scene for us. How did it go?
33:24
I, I, I don't know how it, how the conversation went.
33:27
I just got a text from Mike and the text said I, I needed twenty
33:33
wins. I needed twenty wins, not 5.
33:41
Oh, great. Like, like, like, you know,
33:46
imagine like Sinclair sends the Century Club e-mail over, you
33:51
know, my car is 3 and then, and then boom, sorry guys, cancel
34:00
it. Cancel the balloons.
34:02
Cancel the champagne. Cancel the balloons.
34:05
Somebody alert the media that there'll be no buffet.
34:09
You guys can open you guys can open Woodridge Ave. again, open
34:13
it up. It's over.
34:17
Dude, I I swear to God, I was, I was on my couch because you got
34:21
to know. MMM1 thing Carson does is he he
34:24
laughed at himself, right? Yeah, he's hyper organized.
34:28
Like he's so that's what makes this so great.
34:31
Like, and he teaches physics like he's a genius.
34:33
Yeah, you know the guy. He's a genius. 20 He was 15
34:38
games old. Well, he teaches physics, not
34:42
math. I mean, you know, that's.
34:43
Why, Yeah, as if you, as if you or I have any idea what that's
34:49
all about. I'm a man of words, not of
34:51
numbers, that's for sure. No idea that is correct.
34:54
All right. But we hope we we, we wish you
34:56
well. We wish you well.
34:57
No doubt about it. We'll be we'll be doing the
34:58
countdown and hopefully we'll have somebody on the inside
35:01
giving us the heads up too. And I'd love to get down there
35:03
and cover it as well. All right, So actually I'd love
35:05
it if they play somebody on the road closer to the world
35:08
headquarters of North Jersey. sports.com, but you.
35:11
Take you take Hey. Can I walk out a little Dulac?
35:14
We meet in the middle maybe anyway.
35:16
That's a possibility. That's a possibility.
35:17
Yes, All right, so let's go. Just, you know, it's not that
35:22
the Bergen County Tournament is eminent, but you do have to
35:26
start looking ahead at some of these numbers in the win loss
35:30
column to see who's, you know, who's going to be in, who's
35:35
going to be out and who's got a lot of work to do.
35:37
And, you know, you have the obvious teams that are off.
35:39
Well, not the obvious teams. You got Westwood, which is an
35:43
obvious team. You have, you know, teams like
35:47
well, for Riverdale and one in your division.
35:49
But that's what I was going to say.
35:50
You get a team like Riverdale, who has, you know, been in the
35:53
Riverdale is a historically powerful North Jersey program
35:57
when Brandon Flanagan was the head coach.
35:59
And they've gone through a, let's just say a transition and
36:02
they've traveled through the weeds a little bit.
36:04
And now they're back and eight and one start and four and O in
36:07
the Big N Patriot Division. Yeah, actually, that's a guy we
36:10
got to get on here pretty soon because it's starting to get
36:13
serious. Riverdale is a good team.
36:15
I mean, well, Jack Hills and. Yeah, but you know, but again,
36:21
you know, you, you look at Pesca kills, you know, I think I I
36:24
think they just, they just had a big win.
36:26
Who did they? Who did they just beat?
36:29
That's right. Yeah.
36:31
They. They.
36:32
They're old, 5, and now they're 36.
36:34
I mean, they were supposed to be good.
36:36
And you know, like we just said with baseball, you know it.
36:41
Baseball isn't meant to be played five games, isn't
36:44
supposed to be such a huge sample size.
36:45
But in high school baseball, unfortunately, it is.
36:48
Tastic Hills is playing their way out of it.
36:49
And again, they're proving themselves to be a dangerous
36:51
team because they have some arms.
36:52
But we're not talking at all. We're talking.
36:54
We're talking about Riverdale, and Riverdale's on fire.
36:57
Riverdale is on fire and in my yeah that we were going to have
37:02
Stasso on today, but but but yeah, thank you.
37:08
Thank you for Paul Albarella. And it backfired.
37:14
And you they said so and we could have had him on and
37:18
instead I got the Heisman and you get the credit.
37:22
There you go. But no, I I mean, they're, you
37:25
know, they're also a good start. They they actually had they had
37:30
a good win over old Japan. I think they, they beat they,
37:35
they, they, they beat Paramus Catholic 33 nothing.
37:38
I think. And you know, they, they,
37:39
they're not just eight and one, they're eight and one with a lot
37:41
of quality wins. They, they, they, they hit the
37:44
baseball, you know, one through 9 and you know, they have arms
37:48
so that you know, they're, they're, they're, they're back.
37:51
They're back after, like you said, come through the lead a
37:53
little bit. You know, Westwood Herbs Herbs
37:56
is doing his his job over there. And I think what's Ramsey now
38:02
section. Three, yeah, that's that's a
38:05
stacked, that's a stacked league.
38:06
I mean, it's teams of life-size. And when you got Riverdale,
38:12
Westwood, Ramsey, Mahwah and Pascack Hills and even Indian
38:15
Hills, which is, you know, the plucky underdog nowadays, and
38:18
they can jump up and play. I mean, they've got through two
38:20
good senior classes in a row in Indian Hills.
38:22
So, you know, probably going through a little bit of a
38:24
rebuilding. But that being said, they could
38:27
beat anybody in that division on a, you know, on any given day.
38:30
So we've got six teams in that league and there's not an easy
38:33
game anywhere to be found. No, no, that is it's very
38:36
competitive, a lot of parity and and it's a it's a solid league.
38:41
But Riverdale is, is definitely a team that, you know, I and I
38:45
think you know, they, they, they kind of jump out at you a little
38:48
bit because like you said, they they have been through the
38:50
through going through the weeds a little bit and you know, they
38:53
seem to to have it together. And I don't know, you know, when
38:56
we do have SAS on, we, I don't know, you know, what they are in
39:01
terms of, of their years. You know, I don't know if
39:03
they're, if they're young, if they're, you know, they have
39:06
some, some senior, but it would be good to get him on and, and
39:08
we can talk about them a little bit.
39:10
And, you know, I think there's a there's a lot of teams that, you
39:15
know, a lot of teams playing solid baseball.
39:17
Hackensack's playing solid baseball.
39:20
Teaneck, you know, Teaneck's playing solid baseball.
39:23
You know, you go down to the NJI.
39:26
See, I, I, I'm pretty sure like, you know, Woodridge again is I,
39:30
I think they're five and five and two and, and the big guys
39:35
are, are beating themselves, beating each other up.
39:36
I, I don't know, you know, again, I know the Paul is a is a
39:40
safe kind of school, but you know, they, they beat Bosco in
39:44
Game 1, Jesse 62. I don't know what happened
39:46
today, you know, and, and you got Paramus Catholic and Bergen
39:51
Catholic knocking each other around.
39:52
And it, there just seems to be a lot of, a lot of parity, a lot
39:58
of, a lot of teams that, you know, like we talk go back to
40:01
Pascack Hills. Like you look at Pascack Hills
40:03
and you look at 3:00 and 6:00 and you're like, oh man, what's
40:06
wrong with them? Nothing wrong with them.
40:07
They, they, they play like, they, they go play and you know,
40:11
it's, it's, it's you want to be playing your best baseball.
40:15
Obviously you want to get out of the gate quick because you and I
40:17
talk about all the time it's a Sprint.
40:20
But you know, if, if, if you can keep yourself within striking
40:23
distance of tournaments and things of that nature and, and
40:26
you're playing your best baseball in the second week of
40:29
May, you know, first and second week of May.
40:31
Now you're, you know, you're kind of the springboard into,
40:33
into whatever tournament you're in, whether it's the, the, the
40:37
Bergen County tournament, the, the, the, the BIT tournament or,
40:40
or the state tournament, you know, so it's, it's fun.
40:43
It's, it's such a great game. It's, you know, it's, it's high
40:48
school baseball is, is alive, you know, 1010 games into the
40:51
season. Yeah, and you look at like, I
40:53
mean, again, I don't know how we got on Pascal kills, but you
40:55
pull up their stuff and and now you look at their losses like
40:58
they lost the Saint Joe's Highlands, Bergenfield, which is
41:01
one of the baddest stories in North Jersey.
41:03
You got Riverdale now they they lost, you know, swept by
41:07
Riverdale. But all of a sudden those look a
41:09
six two and a four one is not so crazy.
41:11
And then they split with Ramsey, so and they beat Pastaic Valley,
41:15
which is a Group 3 and club side Park, you know, which was off to
41:18
a good start as well. So all of a sudden they're right
41:22
back in the mix and with a kid like Kyle Wankis, who's a
41:24
legitimate #1 going on the next year, that's oh, great.
41:29
You know, like they, they got, we're playing the, you know, 15
41:32
seat in the Bergen County tournament and all of a sudden
41:34
Wanker shows up and you're like, Oh yeah, they'll, they'll be
41:37
there. They'll be there in.
41:38
The end. They'll be there in the end.
41:41
Yeah. So you got that and you got the
41:43
other like Old Japan's only loss.
41:46
You know, we, as we mentioned Riverdale, which is crazy.
41:50
Pascag Valley seems to have righted to ship.
41:52
And you got Old Japan at Fordo in the division of Pascag Valley
41:55
at 3:00 and 1:00 in the division.
41:57
So you know, it's a dog fight there and like an improved
42:01
Teaneck team is there and Bergenfield too.
42:04
So you know, Bergenfield keeping its head above water with a
42:07
coaching change and everything else.
42:09
The other one, the other team that goes out and plays
42:11
everybody. And you mentioned them a little
42:13
bit. You said Hackensack is off to a
42:14
good start and they are Northern Highlands.
42:16
We talked about off to a good start.
42:17
We would have gotten into it a little bit more deeply had
42:21
things gone properly on this show, but.
42:24
You think Almarella? Almarella not cancelled.
42:27
Right. You know, my great friend Brian
42:30
Dunn once said that you can have anything you want in life, but
42:35
you can't have everything, you know?
42:38
I want this show, Joe, but I guess I just can't have a guest.
42:43
So, so Highlands and and Ramapo, I mean, and right behind them
42:50
Ramapo, which, you know, they play the crazy schedule all the
42:53
time. They try to schedule as many
42:56
high profile local games as they can.
42:58
They didn't get any. You know, they started the year
43:00
going to Allentown and to Don Bosco Prep.
43:04
Then they beat Glen Rock, which we know Glen Rock is a good
43:06
team. Obviously split with Ridgewood,
43:08
lost to Old Japan and then just swept Hackensack by a combined
43:12
score of 27 to the four to get back on the right side of 500.
43:16
So didn't we just say? Didn't we just say Hackensack
43:19
was playing well? Except until the last two days I
43:22
I meant to add that and. We.
43:24
We we kind of misspoke there. Maybe.
43:27
I think Frank would agree. Well, we'll see.
43:30
I'll I'll look at coaches Corner and see if his face is on the
43:33
coach of the month. What do you think would be what
43:37
kind of what kind of Because you know, they're not just doing
43:39
DuMont coaches, they're doing like they're going to do coaches
43:42
from all over the county and various sports.
43:45
I wonder, I wonder what kind of sandwich the De Lorenzo would
43:48
be. I probably, I'm thinking it's
43:50
probably going to be something like like sausage he's got.
43:55
To be Yeah, he's got Yeah, the de, the De Lorenzo.
43:58
Yeah, we got it. That would be a great sandwich.
44:01
So that would be a great sandwich.
44:02
No doubt. Sausage, Peppers.
44:03
But there, there would be like there would definitely be
44:05
potatoes in there. You know, it wouldn't just be a
44:07
simple, it wouldn't just be a simple sausage and pepper
44:11
sandwich. You know, he's such a good guy.
44:13
He, he, he, he gave my kid one year, Frankie, he gave my kid,
44:17
he knows my kid's a die hard Met fan, my son James and, and he,
44:25
he gave my kids seats and we went and it was when Scherzer
44:28
was was still with the Mets and who was who was what was the
44:33
name of the umpire that is escaping me?
44:36
That was so bad. What was that?
44:40
No, no, no. Angel Hernandez.
44:42
Angel Hernandez. So I, I, I, I kid you not.
44:47
I kid you not. I think my son was like 12 or
44:50
13. And Frank gives us these tickets
44:53
and we sit down, we're like 20 rows off the field, great seats.
44:59
And you know how they announce the umpires And they, you know,
45:01
they, they and, and your umpires today are boom, boom, boom.
45:05
And the last umpire, the whole umpire is, is Angel Hernandez.
45:09
They announce Angel Hernandez's name.
45:11
My son James stands up and goes, you gotta be kidding, right?
45:21
So people are like turning around, going what's wrong with
45:23
this kid? Like, so he's horrible from that
45:30
point on, any game that Angel Hernandez.
45:34
I think. I think and I'm like, yo, I'm
45:36
like how did you know at that point that Angel Orn, he's like
45:39
that. Everyone knows he's the worst.
45:41
The guys not in the league anymore.
45:46
Oh yeah, right. They forced retirement and no,
45:48
they doesn't force anybody out, especially now.
45:50
Could you imagine? Could you imagine Angel
45:52
Hernandez with this ABS? No, just but let's get off on a
45:57
tangent, Joe. Let's let's get rid of this, get
45:59
the umpires off the field. Get either either get the
46:02
umpires off the field or get rid of this ABS.
46:04
It's yeah, that's cool. You're, you're, you're listen to
46:09
me, listen to me and, and, and I get it, you know, I get it.
46:13
And, and you and I have talked about all time like there's,
46:17
there's a, there's whatever 200 pitches that you see in the
46:20
game. It's not more, right?
46:22
It's not more. And, and you're, you're going to
46:24
miss some that it's OK. Like do you see, like do you see
46:28
when, when they tapped their helmets and now you got 40,000
46:31
people that, that you know, you're, you're getting undressed
46:34
in front of and you're missing, you're missing the pitch by 1/2.
46:37
An inch? Like by 1/2 an inch.
46:40
Like and and they act like. This is some great tech.
46:43
Like, you know, oh, we got this awful it.
46:45
What's wrong? We're talking about playing
46:47
stickball. We used to take tape.
46:49
You'd put up the stickball. You make tape on the wall and on
46:53
the cafeteria at Lindbergh school, and it's guess what?
46:55
It's ABS, you know, you throw it in the box.
46:58
So get rid of either get rid of the umpires or get rid of the
47:01
stupid. No, yeah, you do that.
47:04
Have to go have to go listen or or take the umpires.
47:07
Off the field, So they don't get, you know, like you don't
47:09
need it because there there's only so many close plays in the
47:13
game. So, you know, a routine play the
47:15
first place. You don't need the guy to stand
47:17
there and just go out so he could he could be gone.
47:19
And any close plays just go right to the right, right to the
47:22
replay, and somebody whistles out and you get the bad boy run
47:25
out there with his helmet on and say you're out.
47:27
But that's, that's the beauty of the, the beauty of the game,
47:30
though, is, is human error, man. Like that's what that's what
47:34
gets you. Like, you know, that's, that's
47:35
what it's, it's part of the game where a guy misses the call you
47:38
or you think the guy missed the pitch in your bark at him a
47:41
little bit or, you know, he comes back.
47:42
That's enough. We're done.
47:44
It's, it's, they're taking the human element out of the game is
47:46
the worst thing. And then I mean, where, where
47:49
else, where else do you get to challenge somebody in front of
47:52
40,000 people? And and, and, and then just, you
47:55
know, and, and, and then you got, you got Brett, what's his
47:58
name? Aaron Boone.
48:00
After after the Yankees channel like 7 pitches, Aaron Boone
48:03
yelling like let's start to get it right.
48:05
Aaron, it is Aaron Boob. Yeah, yeah.
48:09
Yeah, and here's the other thing.
48:10
It's in the baseball DNA, Joe. There's runs when when they come
48:14
off the field, when they say no runs, no hits, no errors, right.
48:17
Sometimes it's three runs, four hits, two errors, mistakes were
48:21
made. You know it's the DNA of the
48:25
game and when it takes. How do you react to getting
48:28
squeezed a little bit? How do you react to, you know,
48:30
like, what are, what are we taking night, night.
48:32
You don't have to worry about it.
48:33
Just if you get into the ball, just tap your house.
48:35
I, I can't stand it. I, I think it's I, I I oh, it's
48:41
bad. Man, Well, you know what though?
48:43
We'll we'll end it here. But you know, it's all to
48:45
appease the gamblers. That's what yeah, that's what
48:49
professional and college sports have become.
48:51
We can't have any mistakes because we need a true perfect
48:55
outcome because otherwise our bet, our 14 parlay, our money
49:01
line bet, our in game bet, our this, that.
49:04
And the other thing is needs to be perfect, you know, has to
49:08
come in perfectly. Otherwise, Yep, you know, we
49:10
talk about people, people who don't take responsibility.
49:14
It's gamblers. They always blame somebody else.
49:16
Well, you're you're an idiot for gambling on your phone during
49:19
the game. Just watch the game.
49:21
Right, right. I mean I certainly certainly
49:25
whistling past the graveyard talking about that because
49:28
gambling in America is A1 zillion billion dollar industry.
49:33
So laughs of a dying breed as a guy who does not gamble on
49:37
stupid college or high school sports or or pro sports as it
49:41
were. Well, high.
49:42
School can't even, you can't even watch pro sports anymore as
49:45
far as I'm concerned. I mean, there's no fun in it.
49:48
No, no, there's not. We were just talking about that
49:50
the other day. Like if if you had, if you had a
49:53
LSU, Clemson, you know, baseball game on I, I, I, I would, I
49:57
would watch that. Like the other day there was
49:59
there was some pro game that was on the MLB Network and and I
50:03
think Clemson was playing North Carolina in in, in baseball.
50:07
So we were watching that. It's just, you know, it's it's
50:10
like you said, man, it's just it's it's yeah, but that that
50:13
getting back to ABS we just it's, it's just awful, man,
50:16
Awful. There's no no place for it.
50:18
And you know what's crazy? People probably disagree and and
50:22
you know, people from I don't know because they gamble
50:24
because. They gamble, that's why they
50:26
disagree. There's no other reason why you
50:27
like it. So it's all on gambling.
50:30
Yep, and that's all that's keeping baseball alive, really.
50:34
I mean, that's true. It's not about the so just think
50:37
about the changes that have been made, forgetting our lifetime in
50:41
the last 10 years. I mean the international tie
50:44
breaking rule where you put a guy on second base in extra
50:47
innings, that's. A dumb That's a that's a
50:49
softball. Rule from 20 years ago.
50:52
It's the worst thing ever. The.
50:54
The pitch clock, OK, fine, but Can you imagine Ricky Henderson?
50:58
We, we brought him up before if Ricky Henderson was playing in
51:01
this era, he would have 500 stolen bases.
51:04
He'd make it throw over twice and then he'd steal 2nd and 3rd
51:06
and home and. You know what the crazy thing
51:09
is? It's I'm surprised it's not done
51:11
more. Like they they.
51:13
You know, they're still not running.
51:14
No, nobody's running. Yeah, no, that's stupid pitch.
51:18
That's analytics. Have analytics have killed
51:21
baseball man? It's Can you imagine if Steve,
51:24
could you imagine? I don't know if you remember.
51:27
You remember Steve Traxel from the Men The.
51:29
Human the human rain delay the. Human rain delay.
51:32
Could you imagine There would have to be a frigging 4 minute
51:35
pitch clock with that guy in between and?
51:37
You can only Steve. You can only throw over 11
51:40
times. When you get the ball back from
51:44
the catcher's fee, you can't circle the mound 6 times.
51:48
You have to get on the rubber and throw like that guy was.
51:51
Could you imagine in with a pit? No.
51:54
Can you imagine he would have he he?
51:56
They they would have caught a the year, the year that the
51:58
pitch clock was instituted. They would have cut Steve trash.
52:02
He'd just be standing there watching guys walk around the.
52:07
Base What do you want to do? What do you want to do with
52:11
trash this year? I don't know the breaker breaker
52:14
looks good. He's got good run on on on the 2
52:16
scene. You know slider slider looks
52:18
pretty tight, but I don't think he's going to be able to handle
52:21
the pitch clock. We got to let him go so bad.
52:25
Oh. My God, you know, it takes just
52:27
just as long as watching Steve Traxel on a sunny afternoon at
52:34
Shea Stadium in Queens. It's going to pull out all of
52:37
the curses in this episode. Of but OK, but I thought your.
52:42
I thought but I thought your I thought your Beep machine works
52:44
automatically, so it doesn't right there.
52:45
You don't have to go back and edit it.
52:47
Do you think after last week, do you think I would trust my
52:51
technology to do anything that's terrible?
52:54
We did drop, we did drop like 3 phone calls at that that episode
52:58
right after you said how awesome your equipment is.
53:01
Time to get to work. We'll see you next time.
53:04
I'll talk to baseball. Follow the leader.