Latest / Billy & Lisa in the Morning / Darryl From Run DMC + Dave Wedge
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- 0:00Speaker 1: All right, if you've never seen Ed Sharon live in concert,
- 0:02Speaker 1: this is your opportunity.
- 0:04Speaker 2: What up?
- 0:04Speaker 1: Everybody is justin here and yes Ed Sharon is headlining.
- 0:08Speaker 1: Are sold out jingle Ball coming up December fourteenth at
- 0:11Speaker 1: the TD guard In. The show is sold out, so
- 0:14Speaker 1: the only way in is to win. I do have
- 0:17Speaker 1: a pair of tickets for you right now. I'll take
- 0:19Speaker 1: call her twenty five at six one seven, nine to
- 0:22Speaker 1: three one one one. Await, You'll need a keyword, and
- 0:25Speaker 1: the keyword is going to be tradition, because that's what
- 0:27Speaker 1: jingle Ball is every single year with kiss one O. Wait,
- 0:31Speaker 1: it's a holiday tradition.
- 0:33Speaker 3: My kids, my mom and I went down to New
- 0:34Speaker 3: York City this weekend to see Pink perform with Hugh Jackman.
- 0:39Speaker 4: I just recommend that anyone who hasn't seen it yet
- 0:41Speaker 4: check out the performance.
- 0:43Speaker 5: It was unbelievable. She performed with Willow, her daughter, and
- 0:46Speaker 5: just watching her growth from even a couple of years
- 0:49Speaker 5: ago while she was on tour is just insane. So anyway,
- 0:54Speaker 5: I hope everybody has a great week.
- 0:55Speaker 6: Is Hugh Jackman on tour with Pink?
- 0:58Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'll have to look that up. I
- 1:00Speaker 1: did see video of Pingk's performance this weekend. But that's
- 1:04Speaker 1: really cool.
- 1:05Speaker 6: She's an amazing show. But Wolverine, how cool is that?
- 1:09Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really cool. Yeah, I saw the video on
- 1:11Speaker 1: social media. Yeah, she performed at Hugh Jackman's Greatest Showman
- 1:15Speaker 1: in New York.
- 1:16Speaker 6: It's supposed to be a great show.
- 1:17Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:18Speaker 2: That is good.
- 1:19Speaker 6: Good morning, crew, listening to you from Kafas Beach in Heos, Greece.
- 1:25Speaker 5: Beautiful here, have a great day. Did you go to
- 1:28Speaker 5: Hero's Grease when you and Michelle Lette?
- 1:30Speaker 6: No, I went to what was that island of Oh oh,
- 1:34Speaker 6: the one that I'm trying to the.
- 1:40Speaker 1: Right word to say.
- 1:41Speaker 5: Happened on the island.
- 1:42Speaker 1: No, the I'm not familiar, but the part of Greece
- 1:44Speaker 1: were like kind of like pee Town.
- 1:47Speaker 6: Oh no, No, I went to an island.
- 1:49Speaker 3: It was right near you know, the Mikonos in those
- 1:52Speaker 3: other islands, and a half hours boat ride from that.
- 1:54Speaker 3: But it was a beautiful island. But I loved it.
- 1:56Speaker 3: There was nothing there, no cars. You when you got
- 2:00Speaker 3: to the island. If you were staying at an inn,
- 2:01Speaker 3: they took you by donkey. Oh my god, I love
- 2:04Speaker 3: that donkey absolutely.
- 2:06Speaker 6: Why wouldn't.
- 2:07Speaker 5: I where did they put all your bags?
- 2:08Speaker 6: They hang it over one donkey and then you get on.
- 2:10Speaker 1: The other don incredible, Yeah he didn't.
- 2:14Speaker 6: It was the island of he Drop.
- 2:15Speaker 1: Okay, okay, what's the one with all the white buildings?
- 2:19Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah, Greece is beautiful.
- 2:24Speaker 5: She goes Lisa all the morning.
- 2:28Speaker 6: So we're waiting on Darryl from Run DMC.
- 2:30Speaker 3: Darrel is DMC and he's got this rock Bottom the
- 2:34Speaker 3: musical happening. Actually he's teamed up with Ernie Bark, our buddy,
- 2:38Speaker 3: Ernie Bark. But this is a cool event and he's
- 2:40Speaker 3: in town talking about it. But you know it's funny.
- 2:42Speaker 3: Tommy Hamilton, who's the bass player in Aerosmith, is also
- 2:45Speaker 3: a part of the musical and Run DMC and Aerosmith collaborated.
- 2:50Speaker 1: They bridged the gap literally between hip hop.
- 3:02Speaker 4: Let's go.
- 3:03Speaker 1: It's amazing. Yeah, oh god, Run DMC so so many hits.
- 3:08Speaker 1: I mean they're pioneers of hip hop.
- 3:11Speaker 7: Yeah, correct, Yeah, it all kind of started with.
- 3:27Speaker 6: Absolutely groundbreaking.
- 3:28Speaker 1: Yeah, and how about this. Yesterday d m C received
- 3:33Speaker 1: a proclamation from the City of Boston for his work
- 3:36Speaker 1: in the adduction addiction world, and he was the keynote
- 3:39Speaker 1: speaker on City Hall.
- 3:41Speaker 6: Plaza and you were last week.
- 3:43Speaker 1: I was too. I was out there with Power of Recovery.
- 3:46Speaker 1: Much smaller event.
- 3:47Speaker 8: But.
- 3:50Speaker 1: It's about getting the message out about addiction in that
- 3:53Speaker 1: recovery as possible, and that anybody you know can get clean,
- 3:56Speaker 1: clean up their lives and live a better life. And
- 3:58Speaker 1: that's what he's all about.
- 3:59Speaker 3: And no one else is cool about this music is
- 4:02Speaker 3: It's not only Daryl and we said, Tommy Hamilton from Aerosmith,
- 4:06Speaker 3: but Simon Kirk from Bad Company, and Tony v one
- 4:10Speaker 3: of our longtime friends, one of the funniest guys on
- 4:13Speaker 3: the planet is a part of it. And you know
- 4:15Speaker 3: who else is in the lineup for rock Bottom the Musical.
- 4:20Speaker 3: Josh Canter, the organist at Fenway Park for your Boxton
- 4:24Speaker 3: Red Sox.
- 4:25Speaker 1: I've seen videos of him and what he does. Oh yeah,
- 4:28Speaker 1: he's got quite the setup. I thought I had a
- 4:30Speaker 1: good setup. He's got quite the setup there. Wow, it's
- 4:33Speaker 1: Bad Company. Huh, Bad Company. I believe Simon is being
- 4:36Speaker 1: inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in November.
- 4:38Speaker 3: Too, really a new inductee. Yeah, well, can we get
- 4:42Speaker 3: some Bad Company then? Virginity on the backseat of a Catalina. Yeah, Brenda,
- 5:01Speaker 3: you want to hear a funny thing about my Catalina?
- 5:03Speaker 8: Yeah, this is Lois.
- 5:07Speaker 3: Lois seems uh the Catalina. Dookie was in the car
- 5:11Speaker 3: many times, my buddy Jukie. But the Catalina I had
- 5:14Speaker 3: costs headphones. You're ready for this, just yeah, costs headphones
- 5:18Speaker 3: in every seat in the car.
- 5:19Speaker 6: It's a giant car, Catalina.
- 5:21Speaker 5: You're even in the back seat.
- 5:22Speaker 6: Oh yeah, you put the costs headphones on it. Blacking
- 5:25Speaker 6: Floyd or something.
- 5:28Speaker 1: That's like so like he took us back right there.
- 5:32Speaker 6: You know Daryl would appreciate it with the costs headphones.
- 5:35Speaker 1: Oh, he would know, you know, he would know what
- 5:37Speaker 1: I mean. Think about this guy's career. I mean, think
- 5:39Speaker 1: about it. The early eighties, hip hop yillionaires, the arrow
- 5:44Speaker 1: Smith got legends.
- 5:46Speaker 6: And I happen to know some behind the scenes.
- 5:48Speaker 1: Here, hold on, hold on, he's walking in headphones on, Darryl,
- 5:53Speaker 1: come on.
- 6:03Speaker 9: Let's go, Daryl. How you doing, buddy, what're you doing?
- 6:07Speaker 4: Good? What's happening? What's going on?
- 6:09Speaker 9: Poor Stone?
- 6:10Speaker 6: Look at you with your ac D see all day.
- 6:14Speaker 3: By the way, I don't think I ever said this
- 6:17Speaker 3: to another man face to face.
- 6:19Speaker 6: Daryl Man, you are jacked, I am. Yeah, you're looking good.
- 6:25Speaker 4: I feel good.
- 6:26Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel good. I eat a lot of cookies.
- 6:28Speaker 5: Yeah, you just hand it as d MC coolest cookies
- 6:31Speaker 5: in the universe.
- 6:31Speaker 8: Daryl makes cookies. That's what DMC stands. That is so cool,
- 6:39Speaker 8: coolest cookies in a universe.
- 6:41Speaker 6: Now is it a healthy cookie?
- 6:42Speaker 8: I mean a regular cookie, but it's no preservatives.
- 6:46Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm not saying this because they might. They're
- 6:50Speaker 4: the best tasting cookies ever.
- 6:54Speaker 3: Can I read? The comment on the back is that, Okay,
- 6:58Speaker 3: I'm always involved with doing things around families, children, communities,
- 7:02Speaker 3: and just like my music, cookies connect.
- 7:05Speaker 6: Us all and that couldn't be more.
- 7:08Speaker 5: They really do. They make everyone happy exactly.
- 7:10Speaker 4: You mind have a coffee.
- 7:13Speaker 5: Packaging too, I say we're going to have.
- 7:15Speaker 4: Vegan gluten free to a protein gems.
- 7:19Speaker 6: Don't feel the need to bring the vegan ones in, Okay,
- 7:22Speaker 6: I'm just.
- 7:23Speaker 8: I'm sure great, Yeah, giving me honestly.
- 7:26Speaker 3: Oh, it's loaded with chocolate chip. Oh yeah, you're not
- 7:29Speaker 3: cutting corners on.
- 7:30Speaker 5: The loaded.
- 7:35Speaker 9: Damn good?
- 7:38Speaker 6: Oh yeah, just an endorsement.
- 7:42Speaker 8: Definitely jet this out from November to January first, from
- 7:48Speaker 8: during the holidays only.
- 7:50Speaker 4: From November to January.
- 7:53Speaker 8: First, we have the Christmas in Hollis Christmas Cookie sugar
- 7:58Speaker 8: Cookie Holidays.
- 7:59Speaker 5: We're can you find your You could.
- 8:01Speaker 8: Go to d MC Dashcookies dot com and I'm also
- 8:04Speaker 8: on Amazon.
- 8:05Speaker 9: Right non lyon right.
- 8:10Speaker 4: Eat like eight packs.
- 8:11Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're bring any coffee with you, I mean
- 8:13Speaker 3: it is the morning all.
- 8:14Speaker 8: Well, actually have Daryl makes coffee too, order some paper
- 8:20Speaker 8: plays coffee in Montclan, New Jersey.
- 8:23Speaker 4: DMC, yeah makes coffee, DARWN mixing cookies. I'm am a company.
- 8:28Speaker 8: I do comic books, I do all the comic cond
- 8:31Speaker 8: downs comics.
- 8:32Speaker 4: I'm gonna do down mixed chocolate. Oh yeah, yeah, I
- 8:35Speaker 4: got a lot going on.
- 8:36Speaker 8: D m C.
- 8:37Speaker 3: Darl makes you know that would be something else you
- 8:40Speaker 3: bring any more?
- 8:43Speaker 4: Yeah, we got some more. Everybody say that this okay?
- 8:47Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, graduate music, Okay, that's the thing.
- 8:51Speaker 3: Congratulations, you got the key to the City of Boston yesterday.
- 8:55Speaker 4: Yes, it was really cool for a really good reason.
- 8:58Speaker 8: Working with Tony from Boston, Woody g from Boston and
- 9:06Speaker 8: a good friend of mine, Simon Kirk from Free and
- 9:11Speaker 8: Bad Company. We're doing a musical about sobriety and recovery
- 9:18Speaker 8: an addiction.
- 9:19Speaker 6: Yeah, and you've got it tonight. I tell people where
- 9:22Speaker 6: to go, but it's already sold out. Of course they
- 9:24Speaker 6: can tell him anyway.
- 9:25Speaker 4: They won't come and stand out sun and we might
- 9:27Speaker 4: let him.
- 9:28Speaker 6: Well, I know you partnered with our buddy Ernie Mark Jr.
- 9:31Speaker 2: And out.
- 9:33Speaker 6: Have you been to this place?
- 9:35Speaker 4: Noticed? My first time?
- 9:37Speaker 6: Our showroom is where it's happening.
- 9:39Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 9:39Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a city of classic car It's really beautiful.
- 9:43Speaker 8: Oh.
- 9:44Speaker 4: I got another idea. Me and Ernie b is going
- 9:46Speaker 4: to do Daryl makes Car.
- 9:50Speaker 2: I'm going to.
- 9:52Speaker 9: Okay us three.
- 9:54Speaker 8: Wow, we want to put out a car way better
- 9:56Speaker 8: than Tesla's egg Cadillan and BMW combined.
- 10:00Speaker 6: Darryl makes Cars.
- 10:02Speaker 11: It's wait and we're back with Villy and Lisa in
- 10:06Speaker 11: the morning.
- 10:07Speaker 1: All right, come on, guys, welcome back Billy and Lisa show. Here.
- 10:10Speaker 1: We got Daryl from DMC still in studio. A couple
- 10:13Speaker 1: of minutes ago, you were telling us about Arrowsmith working
- 10:15Speaker 1: with Tommy Hamilton. Right now, Well, let's go way way
- 10:19Speaker 1: back to the nineteen eighties when run DMC teamed up
- 10:22Speaker 1: with Arrowsmith for walk this Way, a moment that changed
- 10:25Speaker 1: music forever. How did that happen?
- 10:28Speaker 2: Tell us?
- 10:28Speaker 8: Originally me and Running Chay was just gonna steal. I mean,
- 10:32Speaker 8: sample's just gonna steal, I mean sample them music. Yeah,
- 10:37Speaker 8: and it was gonna be their music, you know, the
- 10:39Speaker 8: drums and the guitar in a loop, and me and
- 10:42Speaker 8: Ron was gonna be rhyming because it was eighty We
- 10:45Speaker 8: came out in eighty three, so it's eighty six. Now
- 10:48Speaker 8: eighty four, we did rock Box. See Walk this Way
- 10:51Speaker 8: wasn't the first rock rap record.
- 10:53Speaker 4: It's a tongue twister.
- 10:54Speaker 8: The first rock rap record was rock Box, which was
- 10:58Speaker 8: the first rep video on MTV eighty four. Then in
- 11:02Speaker 8: eighty five we did an album called The King of Rock.
- 11:06Speaker 8: We did a video for MTV with Larry Budd Melman,
- 11:09Speaker 8: Oh yeah, let him shit at the front door of
- 11:12Speaker 8: a rock and Roll Hall of Fame museum that didn't
- 11:15Speaker 8: even exist yet because it didn't start till eighty six.
- 11:18Speaker 4: And remember Larry Bud was.
- 11:20Speaker 8: You guys can't come in here, this is a rock
- 11:23Speaker 8: and roll museum.
- 11:24Speaker 9: And then we went in a ruined Larry Mudd. Now yeah, So.
- 11:27Speaker 8: Then on we was gonna sample their music, and I
- 11:32Speaker 8: remember that it was gonna be there being I would
- 11:34Speaker 8: be like, I'm DMC in a place to be been
- 11:36Speaker 8: roming on a mic since eighty three.
- 11:38Speaker 4: I'm the best MC in history. There will never be
- 11:41Speaker 4: an MC better than me.
- 11:43Speaker 8: And then Run was supposed to going out DJ Run
- 11:45Speaker 8: here to get it done typical Run the MC stuff.
- 11:47Speaker 8: We was working with a producer named Rick Rubin. Oh time, Yeah,
- 11:52Speaker 8: and Rick Coles.
- 11:53Speaker 4: You know how Rick.
- 11:54Speaker 8: Talks, Hey, guys, you should do the wreck it over.
- 11:58Speaker 8: So me and Run was thinking, from limited hip hop perspective,
- 12:02Speaker 8: we're gonna sample it, We're gonna rhyme on it. But
- 12:04Speaker 8: Rick said, no, do it over the way the band
- 12:07Speaker 8: originally did it. So at first me a Run was
- 12:09Speaker 8: against it. Jam Master Jay rest in peace. He was like, yo,
- 12:12Speaker 8: that's a great idea.
- 12:13Speaker 4: Whatever whatever.
- 12:14Speaker 8: So while me and Run was learning the song the
- 12:18Speaker 8: way Aerosmith easily did it, Rick did something phenomenal. He
- 12:23Speaker 8: called Boston when Aerosmith was here. You know, I take
- 12:26Speaker 8: compound working on that album.
- 12:28Speaker 4: With it looks like a lady did you.
- 12:31Speaker 8: They was already doing it, but there was no way
- 12:34Speaker 8: for them to come back. Like my joke is they
- 12:36Speaker 8: could have made a record with God, Jesus and Moses
- 12:39Speaker 8: and nobody would have cared. So Rick caused them and
- 12:43Speaker 8: says this, Hey guys, my name is Rick Rubin. I
- 12:46Speaker 8: know you know who run DMC is. We want to
- 12:48Speaker 8: do your record over? Do you want to do it?
- 12:50Speaker 8: So they was like, what who's this? My name is
- 12:53Speaker 8: Rick rubh and I know you know who run DMC is.
- 12:56Speaker 8: We want to do your radio And Steve and Joe
- 12:59Speaker 8: and the band was.
- 13:00Speaker 4: So, where.
- 13:03Speaker 3: Did you and Arrowsmith perform it together live the first time?
- 13:08Speaker 2: Oh?
- 13:09Speaker 8: Man, I don't even remember, yeah, but I remember his
- 13:12Speaker 8: hip to add to that.
- 13:14Speaker 4: So they was with it. It was cool. But Rick
- 13:17Speaker 4: did something else phenomenal. He put us in the studio
- 13:20Speaker 4: with him together now.
- 13:22Speaker 8: And the reason why this is important is you know
- 13:24Speaker 8: hip hop didn't create anything.
- 13:27Speaker 4: It recreated everything. So the typical mode of.
- 13:31Speaker 8: Operation was to sample somebody's else's music and rhyme over.
- 13:35Speaker 4: So Rick said no due to record over the way
- 13:37Speaker 4: they did it.
- 13:38Speaker 8: But it was brilliant that Rick put us with them
- 13:42Speaker 8: because put it like this, the version your hair would
- 13:46Speaker 8: it just the virgiin your.
- 13:47Speaker 4: Hand now wouldn't have been that virgin. It would have
- 13:49Speaker 4: just been me and Ryan.
- 13:51Speaker 8: Doing it and we would be sitting here and just going, oh,
- 13:53Speaker 8: I remember your sample a respect, but the fact that
- 13:56Speaker 8: we did it with them. I've been a around the
- 14:00Speaker 8: world everywhere since eighty six. I could go to somewhere
- 14:03Speaker 8: I've never been tomorrow. And people say this, DMC. Don't
- 14:07Speaker 8: you know when Steven Tyler took that might stand and
- 14:09Speaker 8: knocked down that wall that was separating the d in
- 14:11Speaker 8: the video, it didn't just happen in the video.
- 14:13Speaker 4: That happened in the world. So by us coming together
- 14:16Speaker 4: to you know, you was channel surfing. Oh you just like,
- 14:20Speaker 4: what the hell.
- 14:20Speaker 8: Is Aerosmith doing with run DMC and our fans who
- 14:23Speaker 8: you know, we know rock beats from samples and all
- 14:27Speaker 8: the music we stole.
- 14:28Speaker 4: When they got on MTV, they was like, what.
- 14:30Speaker 8: The hell is run DMC doing with the rolling Stone
- 14:32Speaker 8: there you go, And it was like, no, it's not
- 14:33Speaker 8: a roller Stones, it's Aerosmith. And they got this aw
- 14:35Speaker 8: called walk This Way and Running.
- 14:37Speaker 4: DMC did it with Joe Perry and this and that,
- 14:39Speaker 4: and it didn't just change music changed earthy.
- 14:42Speaker 3: So where can people get all things DMC and, by
- 14:45Speaker 3: the way, including your cookies and Coffee.
- 14:48Speaker 8: My ig is King DMC is my Instagram and DMC
- 14:52Speaker 8: makes Cookies is my other Instagram.
- 14:55Speaker 4: Thing, right, so check this out the hold.
- 14:57Speaker 8: I gotta make this announcement, all right, January tith new
- 15:01Speaker 8: song It's Cool She Gets Me High. Dig this DMC
- 15:06Speaker 8: and Sebastian Bach on vocals, Travis Barker on Trum's, Mick
- 15:12Speaker 8: Marsh for Motley Crung guitar, and Jeff mckage from Guns N'
- 15:16Speaker 8: Roses on bass.
- 15:18Speaker 4: January twenty, If.
- 15:19Speaker 8: She Gets Me High, Yes, music is about to get
- 15:22Speaker 8: fun again.
- 15:23Speaker 6: That's a jam right there. Daryl Beast walk to you from.
- 15:28Speaker 11: The Planet Fitness Kiss one O eight Studios.
- 15:31Speaker 5: We're back with Villy and Lisa in the morning.
- 15:34Speaker 1: We are into the final hour of the Billy and
- 15:36Speaker 1: Lisa Show. Welcome back everybody to a Friday morning ahead
- 15:39Speaker 1: of a three day weekend for most of us. I
- 15:41Speaker 1: know my son doesn't have school on Monday, so if
- 15:44Speaker 1: you have a three day weekend, please enjoy. The weather
- 15:46Speaker 1: should be okay, it gonna be much cooler. We started
- 15:48Speaker 1: the week in the eighties, which is wild for October,
- 15:51Speaker 1: but feeling mare like fall.
- 15:53Speaker 3: Now we've got author Dave Wedgend Studio and Lisa, is
- 15:56Speaker 3: this just range the way this happened?
- 15:58Speaker 11: Okay, So your buddy who is the chef and recently
- 16:04Speaker 11: and said you need to connect with a Boston author
- 16:07Speaker 11: named Dave Wedge, and you got you right about true
- 16:11Speaker 11: crime and we love true crime. Here we just came
- 16:13Speaker 11: off the heels of the Karen Reid trial. And I
- 16:15Speaker 11: know that you're working on a Karen Reid book. But
- 16:17Speaker 11: people if they don't know Dave Wedge. Dave Wedge wrote
- 16:20Speaker 11: Boston Strong with Casey Sherman, which was turned into Patriots
- 16:24Speaker 11: Day starring Mark Wahlberg.
- 16:26Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, Casey and I wrote that book back in
- 16:28Speaker 12: twenty fourteen. I was a reporter at the Boston Herald
- 16:31Speaker 12: for fourteen years and led the Herald's coverage when that
- 16:34Speaker 12: all happened. I was out there in Watertown that night,
- 16:36Speaker 12: in the middle of the night, and you were.
- 16:38Speaker 6: There when they were searching for the guy on the boat.
- 16:41Speaker 12: I got sent out as soon as Sean Collier got shot,
- 16:44Speaker 12: and over at MIT, I get sent out, and as
- 16:46Speaker 12: I was on my way there, I got diverted from
- 16:47Speaker 12: there to Watertown because we heard on the scanner of
- 16:50Speaker 12: the bombs in the shootout, so I was stuck out there.
- 16:53Speaker 12: Actually my car was actually trapped in the crime scene,
- 16:56Speaker 12: and I got stuck out there through the night.
- 16:58Speaker 3: You were that close. I was in the What was
- 17:00Speaker 3: going down? That must have been a crazy time because
- 17:03Speaker 3: they were looking for the guy, right, They were everywhere,
- 17:06Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, the story popped from
- 17:08Speaker 3: Mit and the MIT cop was shot, and then.
- 17:11Speaker 6: You hear it, you're running out.
- 17:13Speaker 12: It was not My son, who's now twelve, was two
- 17:16Speaker 12: weeks old, and my wife, Jessica had the baby on
- 17:19Speaker 12: maternity leave, and I came home after covering the bombings
- 17:23Speaker 12: all day, and then we heard the shooting of Sean
- 17:25Speaker 12: Collier on the TV. When I finally sat down, I
- 17:28Speaker 12: was trying to help with the baby finally, and I said,
- 17:31Speaker 12: you know, this doesn't happen. Something's wrong, and I kind
- 17:33Speaker 12: of knew right away it had to be connected. Then
- 17:35Speaker 12: I got sent out.
- 17:36Speaker 3: So God, I've seen the movie five or six times
- 17:38Speaker 3: and they get to the scene at the boat like
- 17:40Speaker 3: I'm getting shows now just thinking.
- 17:42Speaker 12: About it, It's amazing that more police officers weren't killed
- 17:45Speaker 12: in that.
- 17:45Speaker 6: It was really an incredibly intense moment. Wow, what made
- 17:50Speaker 6: you write the book.
- 17:51Speaker 12: Well, as I said, I've been a reporter for fourteen years.
- 17:54Speaker 12: I always wanted to do a book. I was a
- 17:55Speaker 12: report of twenty years.
- 17:56Speaker 6: Actually.
- 17:57Speaker 12: I had a few opportunities with a couple other stories
- 17:59Speaker 12: over the years, but nothing that really jumped out at
- 18:01Speaker 12: me and made me say, you know what, I want
- 18:02Speaker 12: to dedicate a year or two of my life to this.
- 18:04Speaker 12: But when the bombings happened, I knew someone was going
- 18:08Speaker 12: to do it. I knew there probably be a bunch
- 18:09Speaker 12: of books, and I was like, you know what, I'm
- 18:11Speaker 12: in the middle of it. I have access to all
- 18:12Speaker 12: these people. I know I can do a good job
- 18:14Speaker 12: on it.
- 18:15Speaker 6: In case. He's an amazing writer, he had just come
- 18:17Speaker 6: off The Finest Hours.
- 18:18Speaker 12: Which is a beautiful book movie, and he's a friend,
- 18:21Speaker 12: so I knew we would do a great job together.
- 18:23Speaker 12: So it was kind of a no brainer for me
- 18:24Speaker 12: to jump in.
- 18:25Speaker 3: At least a couple of seconds ago, mention, Karen Reid
- 18:27Speaker 3: is your Karen Reid book, the one they're talking about
- 18:30Speaker 3: the big film.
- 18:31Speaker 12: And unfortunately know that's Karen Reid herself with her attorney
- 18:36Speaker 12: Alan Jackson.
- 18:36Speaker 6: But this is another one.
- 18:38Speaker 12: I was thinking about doing a book on the Karen
- 18:40Speaker 12: Read case way back before the first trial when it
- 18:43Speaker 12: all first started happening, and I kind of tabled it
- 18:45Speaker 12: to write this book that just came out about marvelous
- 18:48Speaker 12: Marvin Hagler. When the second trial came up, I jumped
- 18:51Speaker 12: back in after I finished this one, and I've been
- 18:53Speaker 12: working on my Karen Read book for the past six months,
- 18:55Speaker 12: seven months.
- 18:56Speaker 11: It seems like in Boston we have a lot of
- 18:59Speaker 11: true crime stories.
- 19:00Speaker 12: Oh yeah, it's it's you know, it's there's so many
- 19:03Speaker 12: great stories in the world where culture of storytellers just
- 19:06Speaker 12: humans in general.
- 19:07Speaker 6: But in Boston we're really good at telling stories and
- 19:10Speaker 6: a lot of really incredible stories come out of it.
- 19:12Speaker 6: And the bombing is a great example.
- 19:13Speaker 12: You know, there was books about the terrorist, you know,
- 19:16Speaker 12: there was books about different people.
- 19:17Speaker 6: Involvement, but we wrote the.
- 19:19Speaker 12: Story about the survivors and how they overcame and that
- 19:22Speaker 12: redemption moment and some of the survivors that lost limbs
- 19:26Speaker 12: and then ran the marathon the next year, and you know,
- 19:28Speaker 12: that's that's what Pats Strong is and that's.
- 19:30Speaker 6: Why we wrote it. You know, were you happy with
- 19:33Speaker 6: the way the movie came out? I think it's a
- 19:35Speaker 6: great movie. You know, it's they did they did.
- 19:37Speaker 12: When it first came out, it was raw, so it
- 19:39Speaker 12: was a little like, you know, I wasn't sure, but
- 19:42Speaker 12: I watched it for the ten year anniversary last year,
- 19:44Speaker 12: and I think it's held up well.
- 19:45Speaker 6: I think it captured the spirit of what happened.
- 19:48Speaker 12: I think Mark Wahlberg did a great job, and Peteburg's
- 19:50Speaker 12: a great coment.
- 19:51Speaker 5: Did they have you on the set?
- 19:52Speaker 6: We were on set a good amount.
- 19:54Speaker 12: Yeah, And you know, we didn't write the script, but
- 19:56Speaker 12: you know, they kept us in the loop and we
- 19:58Speaker 12: worked with them to make sure things were right and accurate.
- 20:00Speaker 12: And you know, I couldn't say better things about Pete
- 20:03Speaker 12: Burg and Mark Wahlberg the wonderful word with Berg is
- 20:06Speaker 12: amazingly talented, very talented guy. And that was a difficult
- 20:10Speaker 12: story at a difficult time. Remember the FBI. There was
- 20:12Speaker 12: things the FBI didn't want out, like there was moments
- 20:15Speaker 12: where Pete had to actually meet with the FBI to
- 20:17Speaker 12: clear stuff. It was a it was a difficult, difficult
- 20:20Speaker 12: movie to make and we were in a time where
- 20:22Speaker 12: again it was very raw.
- 20:23Speaker 6: Now with the Karen Read book, will you have talks
- 20:25Speaker 6: with Karen Read?
- 20:26Speaker 12: I have met with Karen a couple of times before
- 20:29Speaker 12: the first trial.
- 20:31Speaker 6: I've talked to Alan Jackson many times. But you know,
- 20:33Speaker 6: they're going to do their own books.
- 20:34Speaker 12: So I'm going to skate my lane and write my book,
- 20:36Speaker 12: and my book will be the definitive story of what
- 20:39Speaker 12: happened in the case from all sides.
- 20:41Speaker 5: So Dave has a new book out.
- 20:42Speaker 11: It's called Blood and Hate, the marvelous Marvin Hagler's story
- 20:46Speaker 11: about the boxer. But the biggest thing is is that
- 20:48Speaker 11: it's been optioned by actor Sam Rockwell, who was just
- 20:52Speaker 11: in The White Lotus.
- 20:53Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, yeah.
- 20:54Speaker 12: So this book is kind of my labor of love.
- 20:56Speaker 12: It's my my love letter to the city I grew
- 20:58Speaker 12: up in Brockton. It's my eighth book, and again it's
- 21:01Speaker 12: one that I kind of thought about doing for a
- 21:04Speaker 12: few years, and then I finally did it after I
- 21:06Speaker 12: finished my last book, which was about bikers and cops
- 21:09Speaker 12: and stuff, a true crime book called Writing with Evil.
- 21:12Speaker 6: I wanted to write this book with.
- 21:13Speaker 12: Marvin when he was alive, but after he passed away,
- 21:15Speaker 12: I was like, you know what, this guy's legacy has
- 21:17Speaker 12: never really been secured. A lot of people think of
- 21:19Speaker 12: Marvin Hagley. They think, oh, he lost to Sugary Len
- 21:21Speaker 12: and then disappeared. But to me, Marvin's story is this story,
- 21:25Speaker 12: which is him escaping Newark as a little boy, fighting
- 21:29Speaker 12: the corruption in the seventies and eighties in the box
- 21:30Speaker 12: and they're winning this fight in London in nineteen eighty
- 21:33Speaker 12: against a guy that was backed by a white power
- 21:35Speaker 12: group and he was pelted with bottles after he won
- 21:38Speaker 12: the fight.
- 21:38Speaker 6: And that's what the story is about.
- 21:40Speaker 3: Yeah, at least it was telling me that in the
- 21:42Speaker 3: Marvin story. I wasn't to realize this because we would
- 21:45Speaker 3: have Marvin on the show a lot. You don't rune
- 21:46Speaker 3: out of Brockton, Yeah, the World Channel. But he dealt
- 21:50Speaker 3: with a lot of racism.
- 21:51Speaker 6: He did in that fight specifically, and.
- 21:53Speaker 12: It was nineteen eighty and the guy he fought was
- 21:55Speaker 12: a guy named Alan Minter and he was from London.
- 21:57Speaker 6: Amn.
- 21:57Speaker 12: He was a great white hope and there was a
- 21:59Speaker 12: white power group that loved the guy. They backed him,
- 22:02Speaker 12: was called the National Front. Before the fight, Marvin and
- 22:05Speaker 12: Alan had a press conference and Alan said at that
- 22:08Speaker 12: press conference that no.
- 22:09Speaker 6: Black man will ever take my title.
- 22:11Speaker 12: No imagine saying that today viral doesn't even describe it.
- 22:14Speaker 12: There was no viral back then, but it stuck. It
- 22:17Speaker 12: caused a wound, and Allen Miner paid for that comment.
- 22:20Speaker 3: Now, Dave. A little bit earlier on the show, I
- 22:22Speaker 3: told Marvin Hagler story that I had from an old
- 22:26Speaker 3: Kiss concert.
- 22:27Speaker 6: I'm not sure you'll find it in the book though.
- 22:29Speaker 6: When he was backstage he missed that. Yeah, he was.
- 22:34Speaker 6: He was a man about town. You know a lot
- 22:36Speaker 6: of people.
- 22:37Speaker 12: The beautiful thing about this book is I'm out doing
- 22:39Speaker 12: events all the time now and book signings, and it's
- 22:42Speaker 12: wonderful to hear people like you come up from, you know,
- 22:45Speaker 12: from people in their you know, forties and fifties at
- 22:47Speaker 12: New Marvin and they spent time on them.
- 22:50Speaker 6: They hung out with him and went to his fights.
- 22:52Speaker 12: And we call him the fifth franchise in Brockton because
- 22:55Speaker 12: he was as big as the Patriots Red.
- 22:57Speaker 3: Sox Songhden got in the day. Yeah, loved him in
- 23:00Speaker 3: this region, justin you had your hand in the.
- 23:02Speaker 1: Joe Rogan, you know, one of the biggest podcasters in
- 23:04Speaker 1: the world, grew up in Boston.
- 23:06Speaker 4: He was a big Marvin.
- 23:07Speaker 10: Fan when I was a kid growing up in Boston,
- 23:09Speaker 10: Hagler was the Middleway champion of the world. And I
- 23:11Speaker 10: used to see they used to have video of him running.
- 23:13Speaker 10: They played it on the news. He was running on
- 23:15Speaker 10: the There was the dunes, sand dunes and k Cod
- 23:18Speaker 10: in the winter, freezing cold, with a hoodie on, running
- 23:20Speaker 10: screaming war.
- 23:24Speaker 4: It's amazing.
- 23:25Speaker 10: Marvin Hagler made you want to just get out of
- 23:27Speaker 10: your house and go running in the snow.
- 23:33Speaker 6: On the bench in the snow.
- 23:35Speaker 12: Yeah, you know Rogan Rogan loves Hagler because he knows
- 23:38Speaker 12: great greatness when he sees it.
- 23:40Speaker 2: You know.
- 23:41Speaker 12: Yeah, And he was the thing about Marvin again was
- 23:44Speaker 12: you know, to me, he embodies the spirit of where
- 23:46Speaker 12: I grew up, you know, brought to the resilience its
- 23:48Speaker 12: overcoming adversity. He wasn't an insider in the boxing game.
- 23:52Speaker 12: He wasn't with Don King of Bam. He was an
- 23:54Speaker 12: outsider and so were his trained as.
- 23:55Speaker 6: The local trainers.
- 23:56Speaker 12: The picture now, and they fought against that very corrupt machine.
- 24:01Speaker 6: And there's a there's some great stuff in the book.
- 24:02Speaker 12: I could talk about it all day, but suffice to say,
- 24:05Speaker 12: Ted Kennedy and Tip O'Neill had to step in to.
- 24:07Speaker 6: Help Marvin while his title shot. That's how corrupt it.
- 24:10Speaker 3: Was, and the most ripped person I've ever seen in
- 24:14Speaker 3: my life. And that's before all the crazy stuff that
- 24:16Speaker 3: people are.
- 24:17Speaker 5: You know, this is going to be another great movie,
- 24:19Speaker 5: I think so, you know.
- 24:20Speaker 12: And Sam Rockwell optioned the rights to it, as you said,
- 24:23Speaker 12: and I've been working with him and we've actually brought
- 24:25Speaker 12: on Rosie perez As and uh, Sam wants to play
- 24:29Speaker 12: Goodie Petronelli and hit me great at it because good
- 24:32Speaker 12: he was such a quirky you know, wearing headbands and yeah,
- 24:38Speaker 12: dressed up in the seventies, garb. You know, I'm so
- 24:40Speaker 12: happy you guys have me in. I love the show.
- 24:43Speaker 12: Fellow Milton Night, Lisa Billy, I love your work. Been
- 24:46Speaker 12: following you for years, so thank you, thank you very much.
- 24:48Speaker 12: And you could be one of the best dressed writers.
- 24:50Speaker 6: I mean that with the greatest respect. You got to
- 24:54Speaker 6: thank my wife for that. By the way, never mind.
- 25:00Speaker 1: Every morning just one way, hey friends, welcome back to
- 25:02Speaker 1: the show. Justin here about to wrap things up. Reminder,
- 25:06Speaker 1: the next shot had sold out jingle Ball tickets starring
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- 25:11Speaker 1: Isn't he nice and then at three ten with the
- 25:13Speaker 1: b Bros And Gianna. Also, you can catch the podcast
- 25:16Speaker 1: of the entire show today. Listen to it all weekend,
- 25:19Speaker 1: especially if you have a three day weekend. You can
- 25:21Speaker 1: get it on the iHeartRadio app just search Billy and
- 25:23Speaker 1: Lisa in the morning. Now, Lisa, are you doing trick
- 25:27Speaker 1: or treating this year?
- 25:29Speaker 5: All right?
- 25:29Speaker 11: So Riley's fifteen, so he might head out with his friends.
- 25:33Speaker 11: But I'm not going to be going out like as
- 25:35Speaker 11: an adult, okay, walking around with them?
- 25:37Speaker 1: Probably not, mikey V I'm assuming no.
- 25:40Speaker 13: I mean I might hand out candy at my house.
- 25:42Speaker 13: I'm not going to now, Okay, kids, I'm not going
- 25:43Speaker 13: to walk around my cats. Yeah wow, I have good
- 25:47Speaker 13: news for you both. Okay, right here, how about this
- 25:50Speaker 13: Airheads you know Airheads of candy. They giving people a
- 25:53Speaker 13: chance to win a creepy decoy boy. This is a
- 25:57Speaker 13: legitimate thing, and they're telling people the fake kid, the
- 26:00Speaker 13: fake decoy boy is a way for adults to go
- 26:03Speaker 13: trick or treating and not get hounded for being too old.
- 26:06Speaker 13: So you can go around people's houses and get candy
- 26:08Speaker 13: with this fake child. But it's like a baby that
- 26:11Speaker 13: goes like a carrot. It has a wagon. It's a
- 26:13Speaker 13: little boy in a wagon. Looks like Frankenstein.
- 26:15Speaker 5: It's so creepy.
- 26:16Speaker 1: It's so creepy, but it works.
- 26:19Speaker 14: For too long, getting older has been giving up the
- 26:21Speaker 14: joy of trick or treating.
- 26:23Speaker 1: Luckily, Airheads has a solution, The Decoy Boy.
- 26:27Speaker 6: Treat Airheads please.
- 26:29Speaker 4: Oh I'm sorry, is this your child?
- 26:33Speaker 6: Yeah?
- 26:34Speaker 14: The decoy Boy is a humanoid robot with innovative candy
- 26:37Speaker 14: extracting technology that makes it socially acceptable for you to
- 26:40Speaker 14: go trick or treating.
- 26:41Speaker 4: Please place Airheads into my human hand.
- 26:45Speaker 6: Can I have one more?
- 26:47Speaker 2: Please? Please?
- 26:49Speaker 14: Please? And in case of emergency, there's always tantrid mode.
- 26:58Speaker 1: Oh yay, somebody needs to give that marketing guy a race.
- 27:03Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 27:03Speaker 2: I was just gonna say great marketing. Yeah.
- 27:05Speaker 1: So obviously it sounds like it's fake. It's actually a
- 27:07Speaker 1: real thing. You can go to the Airhead's website and
- 27:09Speaker 1: enter to win this decoy Boy thing.
- 27:12Speaker 11: I have to tell you go to their instagram and
- 27:14Speaker 11: check it out because it.
- 27:15Speaker 5: Looks so creepy, but it does look real.
- 27:18Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And by the way, like you know, we
- 27:20Speaker 1: do trick or treating every year. We spend some of
- 27:22Speaker 1: the time at the house, and there's always older people
- 27:25Speaker 1: that come, yeah, handy by themselves. Yeah, like they're dressed up,
- 27:29Speaker 1: but they're clearly like nineteen or twenty.
- 27:30Speaker 5: Yeah, the older kids.
- 27:32Speaker 2: What is the year that you stopped trick or treating?
- 27:34Speaker 5: Okay, so that depends on the kid, but.
- 27:36Speaker 11: It's usually eighth grade, you know, like fourteen, thirteen, fourteen,
- 27:41Speaker 11: they're sage out of it.
- 27:43Speaker 13: Yeah, I think I remember, like, yeah, probably that around
- 27:45Speaker 13: that time, or like freshman year in high school of
- 27:47Speaker 13: framing him.
- 27:48Speaker 2: But like you started doing it for like fun, because
- 27:51Speaker 2: you and your friends.
- 27:51Speaker 13: Like you're exeat to get out of the house and
- 27:53Speaker 13: walk around the house and I mean walk on the
- 27:55Speaker 13: neighborhood all.
- 27:56Speaker 5: Your friends exactly.
- 27:57Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 27:57Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't remember. Well, it was an incident when
- 28:00Speaker 1: I was younger with trick or treating. I had an
- 28:03Speaker 1: older cousin that was like probably four or five years older,
- 28:06Speaker 1: and you know, he was into some trouble. I wasn't
- 28:08Speaker 1: there yet, and I had Adjason Friday the thirteenth mask
- 28:12Speaker 1: my mom bought me and with fake blood, and she
- 28:14Speaker 1: asked me to go upstairs because my cousin lived upstairs
- 28:17Speaker 1: and have him put the blood on. So I went
- 28:19Speaker 1: upstairs and he did, and then I went out trick
- 28:21Speaker 1: or treating. And so I was probably about like nine
- 28:23Speaker 1: or ten years old, and I remember all night I
- 28:25Speaker 1: was going up to doors and they were looking at
- 28:27Speaker 1: me weird, the people, but I didn't know why. And
- 28:30Speaker 1: so I get home and I walk in the house.
- 28:32Speaker 1: My mom looks at my mask and she's like, what
- 28:35Speaker 1: is on there? Now I can't say on the radio
- 28:37Speaker 1: what he drew on the forehead of the mask, but
- 28:40Speaker 1: just the most offensive thing in the entire world. And
- 28:43Speaker 1: there I was trick or treating, Like, yeah, it was
- 28:47Speaker 1: traumatized me. So I never dressed up again after that.
- 28:50Speaker 13: Why do I see justin being one that like steals
- 28:52Speaker 13: all the kids candy back in the day.
- 28:54Speaker 1: Uh, now, you know I did the whole like toilet
- 28:57Speaker 1: paper thing. Yeah, you know, you toilet paper like the
- 28:59Speaker 1: tree and of people's houses. I did that stuff.
- 29:01Speaker 13: Is it weird that when I see that now, if
- 29:03Speaker 13: I do see it, I'm like, oh, I'm happy that kids.
- 29:05Speaker 2: Are still doing something like that.
- 29:06Speaker 1: I mean, it's better than being in their house on
- 29:07Speaker 1: their phone.
- 29:09Speaker 5: Good old fashioned back.
- 29:10Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just saying so, yeah, it's on a Friday
- 29:13Speaker 1: this year, Halloween.
- 29:14Speaker 11: Yeah, that's good. This is a good This is going
- 29:16Speaker 11: to be a really good weekend.
- 29:17Speaker 1: Which is really good for the kids. Now at least.
- 29:19Speaker 1: I know you live kind of on the main street,
- 29:21Speaker 1: do you.
- 29:21Speaker 5: Yeah, we never get trigger treaters.
- 29:23Speaker 11: I like our first year when we moved in, I
- 29:25Speaker 11: had all this candy and yeah, our driveways along and
- 29:28Speaker 11: we're on the other side of the street, so the
- 29:30Speaker 11: sidewalk is on the other is on the opposite side.
- 29:33Speaker 5: So yeah, so we like never get anyone.
- 29:35Speaker 13: I actually am the perfect spot of look on a
- 29:37Speaker 13: dead end called the sec. But we also don't actually
- 29:40Speaker 13: think about this the other day. Is it simply because
- 29:42Speaker 13: families aren't having as many kids.
- 29:45Speaker 11: I think it's I think they go to neighborhoods now
- 29:47Speaker 11: where they can get the most bang.
- 29:49Speaker 5: For their buck. It's just that's what you do.
- 29:51Speaker 11: So we like always go to like this other neighborhood
- 29:54Speaker 11: and it's like super easy to walk around.
- 29:55Speaker 5: They can hit like two hundred houses.
- 29:57Speaker 13: That's what you're saying. If you don't think that they
- 29:59Speaker 13: think that I'm give away the good candy, I don't know.
- 30:01Speaker 5: I mean bars, Yeah, like.
- 30:04Speaker 1: Upgrade you should be given out full candy. Yeah, I upgrade.
- 30:08Speaker 1: You've made it to a point exactly. That's another argument.
- 30:11Speaker 1: Another debate, too, is dropping the kids off at different neighborhoods. Yeah,
- 30:15Speaker 1: better neighborhood. They do it. In my neighborhood in san
- 30:17Speaker 1: New Hampshire, they dropped the kids off, which I'm fine with.
- 30:20Speaker 2: Your neighborhood is a winning it's a winning.
- 30:22Speaker 1: Neighborhood for sure. But I see people I've never seen
- 30:24Speaker 1: in my life.
- 30:25Speaker 11: Well, we usually go to a neighborhood where we have friends,
- 30:27Speaker 11: so it's not like it's like the neighborhood we've never
- 30:29Speaker 11: been to.
- 30:29Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah, it happens.
- 30:31Speaker 1: Well, I'm looking forward to Halloween. I had you go
- 30:33Speaker 1: in to Mikey's house for Halloween trick or treating, Like,
- 30:36Speaker 1: what's going on in that house? Come on, come on, hey,
- 30:40Speaker 1: I got a hot tub on the board.