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None. It's been a long time since we
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last chatted, hasn't it? Yeah, I think what, 2 years,
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maybe 3. Can't be that long or.
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Maybe 2 years for sure I would say.
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And as much as things change, they stay the same.
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Absolutely. The trend is clear.
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It's just moving in the same direction.
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It's terrible. Do you think most people are
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dumb? No, I don't think so.
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I think, you know, they're all gifted with reason.
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The problem is that they don't use it independently of another
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person's guidance. And they're just, they receive
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all those informations and they just, you know, they don't think
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about what it actually means or what it could mean for their
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future and so on. So they're just driven by those
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news, you know? No, but I mean, I mean, Claudio,
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I thought that there were a lot of smart people, you know,
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during the COVID era, I thought a, we are we are going into a
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new paradigm and now it's as though it never happened.
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I wouldn't say so. I wouldn't say so.
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I mean, of course, OK, I'm in the physical gold business.
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Unfortunate, unfortunate that I can't deal with people who share
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the same values, the principles of liberty and non aggression
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principles, you know, humble entrepreneurs.
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I mean, all of them are entrepreneurs.
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They're not, there's not even one manager among those clients,
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which is quite interesting. But yeah, I think, you know,
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they, they see the same as we do.
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I mean, everyone is preparing. People are buying gold.
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As you can see, you know, silver, especially the rest of
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the world, it's not the West which is the big buyer or
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responsible for the upswing in, in gold and silver through the
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rest of the world. But yeah, people are travelling
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around. I have, I just come back from
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Asia to check out Bali and Singapore.
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So I'm always travelling. I've been to Costa Rica, looking
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at this country. I was in Asia a few months ago
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too. OK, that's not, I mean, I, I
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really have to say, you know, I have been travelling past two
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years a bit more. I had to restart again, let's
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call it that way. And so the first time that I
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really felt very positively surprised was when I went to
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Bali, because I mean, that's the, that's the only I've been
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there the last time 10 years ago.
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And wherever I went to in the past, you know, usually all
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these countries turned into the worst direction.
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But I had the feeling that Bali and Java is much more, more
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nicer than 10 years ago, much more clean.
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And at the same time, people are really happy.
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You know, they're all smiling. You feel, you really feel
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welcome. I mean, it's completely
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different than when you're travelling in Europe and, and
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the United States. I mean, it's kind of collective
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depression, you know, among the masses.
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And Asia is, yeah, different. So it wasn't, it was a nice
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trip. It was a good trip.
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Good to see. I-1 upped you?
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I went to China. OK, tell me.
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I was pleasantly surprised. That place is next level.
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Yeah, I mean China has been built up by central planning
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with the the money of the West. Mao was a Yale man.
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I mean you will find an article from William Buckley, Yale
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University, Yale, Yale Chronicles 1973 front page
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saying Mao was a Yale man. And then we had case injury,
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yeah, when they. Hang on, hang on though.
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It's not the central planning is not quite correct.
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I think it's a bit of a trope. I mean, it's, it's fairly
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decentralised. You, it's it.
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I know it sounds crazy, but I would argue that China's
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probably more decentralised than the USI mean in terms of its
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federal in terms of its federal structure.
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OK. Yeah, I mean, and still, you
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know, China is a very authoritarian government at the
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end of the day. It is quite authoritarian, yes.
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I mean, you have to be if you've got 1 1/2 billion people,
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otherwise you have India. Yeah, of course.
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I mean, question is always do they really have 1.5 billion
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people? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.
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We're only 5 minutes in. Baby steps.
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We've got to work our way there. No, I think right now I just
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heard, you know, I mean, Si XI Ping has some issues with the
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military leadership. So I also heard from people in
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China that they were not so happy with, especially what
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happened during corona and so on.
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So I, I, I really, I think, you know, it's hard.
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I mean, as you know, these days there is so much, all the news,
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everything we see. I think still, I think 80
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percent, 90% is bullshit, especially when you look at the
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mainstream media. I mean, they don't tell us
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what's really all about. I mean, it's that they're
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pushing their own agenda, their Hollywood script, you know, how
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to control and divide and fear the masses and that's it.
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So, yeah, I mean, there's a lot of stuff going on and, and I
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think, you know, a lot of people are preparing.
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A lot of people realise what's going where we are heading.
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And I mean, of course, you know, sensorisation is becoming
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bigger. It's you're not free, you're not
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allowed to speak up. What you think, you know, for
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the wrong opinion, you might be gaoled.
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I mean, so this agenda is, you know, pushed also heavily
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forward in the Western world, which also leads to the fact
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that more people don't speak up. And you know, and I mean, it's
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really, it's a luxury to have your own opinion.
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I basically, I'm really OK. I'm also in Switzerland.
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So I still hope, you know, we have a bit, we were the, the
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most free country in terms of culture when we look at the
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history of Switzerland because, you know, we really butchered,
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you know, everyone who wants to try to get to steal our liberty
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or our property for 200 years. We basically killed all those
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schmucks, you know, the Hobsborgs and the Burbonians and
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all the, all the royalties. And we were, you know, called
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the the cows with the anarchists from the mountain.
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So, so I mean, the freedom of speech, it's something in
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Switzerland, you know, I mean, you still can, you don't, you
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don't have any issues so far. It's, it's really more that most
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of the people are not free to speak because otherwise they
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lose their job or they have no friends or I don't have no clue.
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I mean, it's it's a luxury to these days to have your own
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opinion. World War 3 is a form that
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you're working on, is that right?
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Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's the same.
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It's the same. I mean, OK, it's it's a good
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friend of mine from Washington, DC He basically asked me if I
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would help to produce the movie I did together with him also our
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first movie, which was was done in the same way.
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We, we started in 2020, in April, we started interviewing
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people about Corona and out of this, out of these interviews
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came down the, the movie Planet Lockdown, which has been
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censorised. I mean, the first interviews
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came out, we have been blackmailed and censorised on
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Google, everywhere, Facebook within 72 hours.
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But still we reached out to 20 million people per Forbes and
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Washington Post. But that was the first movie
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that we produced together. And now the second one is
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basically also we just interviewed roughly 22 people,
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especially in the United States, in the UK, in France, in
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Germany, also in Switzerland. So that's where we focused on.
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So we had Ron Paul, of course, who opened up the interview
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series. We just published his interview
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last week. In the next few hours, I'm going
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to release the next one with General Kuyat.
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So he used to be the Chief Inspector of the Bundeswehr.
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So the highest military function and also the the relay between
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politics and military. And so you know, the guy was in
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charge. I think his peak was around
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2000, 2005. He was also chairman of the NATO
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Commission, chief of staff Commission.
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So he was, so he was responsible in the past, you know, how to
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establish a mechanism to have open communication channels and
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to keep a kind of balance of power strategy.
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So he established all those joined Russian NATO Commission,
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joined Ukraine NATO Commission, stuff like this.
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So when people were interacting and he gives a good lecture how
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basically the Western world pushed us into this war in
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Ukraine. And he also says, you know,
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especially Europeans over the last few years, especially since
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Trump, that the Europeans really are the war mongers that they
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are pushing that they're, you know, they're really, yeah.
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They want to have this war. You know, it's the West that is
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basically the aggressor. And, and not, not just, you
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know, Russia, who basically as a as a, as an answer to, to
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Western politics and, and doctrines invaded Ukraine on the
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24th of February or whatever it was.
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So I mean, yeah, so we're talking about cause and effect
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and not only about the symptoms in this, in this movie.
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So we have Kuyat. We have Douglas McGregor in the
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States. We have Wilkinson, Wilkinson,
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former chief chief of staff of Colin Powell.
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We have Charles Freeman, American ambassador, Jewish guy.
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You know, he has been in Saudi Arabia everywhere.
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I have Peter Ford. He used to be my ambassador when
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I was based out in Syria a few years ago or two decades ago,
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let's call it that way. He was the British ambassador
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and he was pretty funny because I asked him, So what is the main
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task of a British ambassador in the Middle East?
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And he has been, he joined the Foreign Service in 197071 and
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was really in all different kind of ambassador, ambassador
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positions all over the Middle East for, you know, 30-40 years.
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And so he told me, well, you know, the main task is to sell
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weapons for British Aerospace. So I mean, so we have then we
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have the the former chief of intelligence, Alan Jouye, you
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know, it's basically the the French national service, like
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the CIA comparisable some other French generals, high ranking
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officials. We have general fart.
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He used to be the the political advisor of Angela Merkel.
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So we have really Prince Michael of Eichenstein.
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So we really have Scott Horton, Libertarian Institute, excellent
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guy when it comes to understanding of international
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war and especially Afghanistan, Iraq and so on the whole Middle
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East. So, so I think it's great
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interviews and based on these interviews, So we released the
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interviews now weekly, on a weekly basis basically, you
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know, because the movie is always cocked and maybe you
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know, one guy gets two or three minutes in the movie.
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So we thought it's important that we release the interviews
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first kind of a, of a teaser for the movie itself, but also to
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have full transparency from the beginning so that everyone, you
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know, it's, I mean, we, we of course we cut the, the
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interviews a bit, but really only that stuff which was
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irrelevant or you noise stuff, which, yeah, I mean, you, you
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start the conversation and then you basically cut it down to
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the, to the, to the sand, you know, to the substance of it.
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Not to make it, you know, two hours, but maybe to have it in
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an hour and 2030 minutes. But what World War Three?
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Why that label? Yeah, because I mean, that's,
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you know, you know, when you look back into history, of
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course, every 80 years we had a reset.
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If you go back 80 years in the Second World War, you go back
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another eight years, war of in single war in the United States,
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the big movements, the big changes in Europe, you know,
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French Revolution, that kind of stuff.
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You go back another eight years, it's the war of independence in
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the United States. So every eight years we had the
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kind of reset and the last two world wars basically were about
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dividing Europe and Asia, especially Germany and Russia.
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Because you know, the Brits, we had this old Halford Mac in the
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doctrine heartland theory, basically saying you know, the
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British, the British, they control the world because they
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control the Seaways. They control the trade on the
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global scale. That's why they have the empire
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if they lose the Seaways of the trading hubs and so on, or goods
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are being moved on the on the land and then the Brits would
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lose their empire. And of course when Germany and
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Russia First World War before it, I mean Germany at the end of
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the 18th century produced more steel than Russia, France and UK
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together. And also when it comes to the
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ability to read and write and and count, I mean, in Germany,
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you, you had I think 90% were literate.
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And while in the, in the, in the surrounding countries, I mean,
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made 2/3 of the people were not able to read and write.
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So, so I mean, yeah, so we have this, I think this is still
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also, I mean, you know, the British when they lost the
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empire to the to the Americans, Rosinski took the same strategy
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in his big chess board. Also, how to, you know, we have
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to avoid that Europe and Asia gets together if the trade
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becomes, you know, from Vladivostok to Lisbon.
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I mean, then if that gets together, then we don't have, we
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lose a lot of influence in Europe.
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And there is no, there is no US empire possible any longer.
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And I think that's, that's exactly the same stuff we are in
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again. And that's why also, yeah, I
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mean, war is, you know, we, we also looked at the political
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ratings of Macron and Stormer and merits in Germany and so on.
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I mean, they are hated. You know what's 68910 percent of
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the people still stand behind these guys.
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The rest really hates them. So whenever you have internal
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problems, then you try to find an an enemy outside, you know,
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to to reshape and to refocus. Yeah, divide and conquer.
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At the end of the day, you know, make sure that they don't think
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about you, but that they start fighting migrants and, I don't
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know, wars and. Yeah, is Europe tickets.
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Is Europe. Tickets.
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Has it gone? Is it sinking?
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Yeah, definitely. I think you cannot hold it.
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I think Europe is in the focus, especially Germany, of course.
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So there is, you know, we are de industrialising Europe.
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We are, yeah, they are blowing pipelines up.
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They this, this, this melon fraction.
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Politicians, I always call them a melon fraction outside green,
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inside red and the core brown. You know, they have the actual
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political agenda that we have to switch to all those green bull
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shaped sources. And so they actually promote
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those of this war against Ukraine and Russia.
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I mean against Russia, of course, because it takes their
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agenda. But at the same time, I mean,
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it's not possible that we can't live or operate in Europe with
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green energy. It's just, it's a it's a not a
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joke. It's it's a joke and that's what
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they're doing. So I mean, they're also
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lockdown. So I mean, it's whatever they
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do. It's basically also a war
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against the small and mid sized companies.
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It's a war against the middle class.
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It's a war against, you know, the productive people.
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So we are at focus even by our own governments and and this is
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the agenda. Yeah.
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I mean, I had an interview with Prince Michael.
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Let me give you Prince Michael had an interview, I think a few
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years ago that's also recorded. So he told me that he had an
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interesting conversation with a high level official from the
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OSCD, you know, the organisation security and cooperation in, in
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Europe. And so the guy was telling
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Prince Michael what they have in mind for us in the future.
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And then Prince Michael said, that was my moment of awakening.
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He said, he said, well, if if you're going to implement those
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kind of steps, then there will be no private wealth, no private
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savings. And then the guy from the OSCD
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smiled very nicely, looked at him and said, yeah, well, that's
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basically true. But, you know, we have to steer
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the economy and they can only steer people in debt, but they
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cannot steer people with wealth. And so that's what that's what
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it's all about. I mean, what we are witnessing
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right now is, as I said 5-6 years ago, it's a cultural
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revolution. You know, the West stood up for
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individualism. So the individual stands above,
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you know, the collective. It's based on self ownership.
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You know, we own our own body and mind.
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It's a God given right or we have given that right by birth.
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Nobody, not even the government has the authority, you know, to
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rule over our mind or body. Because if, if they can do that,
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then there is no private property at all.
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And that's, that's, that's where we are at the moment.
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I mean, we're really going away from an, from an enlightened
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society with Kant and Voltaire, you know, and all the big
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philosophers, we're going back to barbarism and those rulers
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and sociopaths who, who truly believe that they are somehow
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anointed or God chosen to play, you know, his deputy on earth
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because they are so super smart and whatever.
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I mean, they are, they are all, I mean, sociopaths completely,
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but they are the rulers and they are that's, you know, a
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centralised system is, is, yeah, it's centralised.
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And you have minority because I mean, even even the idea, you
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know, that the idea of the state, you know, the state is
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the big fiction that everyone believes it can live on the cost
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of everybody else. So I mean, you know, the state
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gives promises to the people that they that they get
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something for free. And, and when they accept that
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kind of idea that we need state to govern ourselves, I mean,
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then they already give in also to to the idea that they are
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rulers and servants, you know, because it will be a two class,
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it's a two class society or two class system.
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We have a few guys. I mean, it's, it's such a joke
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because, you know, I mean, we, we believe that the majority of
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the people are not capable to lead themselves, but they are
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stupid. But out of but we're going to
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elect some people which we believe are stupid that they
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take over more responsibility and, you know, then rule over
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us. And it's, I mean, it's, I don't
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know. I mean, it's, yeah, it's people
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have to organise themselves. I'm a Swiss so I what I'm
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promoting for the last 5-6 years was decentralise.
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You know, we can we can organise everything on the lowest level
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on the on the level of municipalities that or maybe of
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a city, but that's it. You know, so we that because
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democracy, especially direct. I mean it also means at the
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Asper Aristotle is the great philosopher Demos, you know, the
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village karate of the rulers. What do they call it?
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Philosopher Kings. Yeah, yeah.
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I'm actually a fan of, of of dismantling democracy.
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I I don't like the idea that that mob rule is the order of
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the day. I fully agree.
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And that's why I'm saying, you know, the only way it's going to
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work is, you know, if you keep it as low as possible, you know,
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because you have to limit the wishes of the people, but you
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also have to limit the power of the, the bureaucrats which have
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to admin. I mean, we always have to
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organise ourselves somehow. I mean, it also makes sense that
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we that we have a doctor, you know, living nearby and that we
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might build the hospital together with some other states,
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you know, to reduce costs and so on.
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So people want to organise themselves, which is OK.
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But I think we have, you know, so direct democracy.
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I mean, I'm Swiss, so that's basically our story.
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That's our story. And that's part of our culture.
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I believe in the competition of ideas, you know, I truly believe
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maybe, you know, let's look at Singapore.
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If there is, you know, a centralised system is a, is a
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ruler somehow, you know, that might work, you know, or if
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there is a king somewhere in Africa, I don't know.
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I mean tribes or different cultures, different, I mean
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rule, the rule of law comes out of culture.
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And so we don't have one system that fits it all.
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But I think it's really it has really very much to do with the
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with the culture within the country.
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And honestly, the Swiss, I mean, we always stood for, you know,
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we are precise. You know, a handshake is a
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handshake. We don't cheat.
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I mean, OK, let's say at least before we had the big before
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middle of the 90s, you know, when the whole world turned into
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this US empire, MTV, Moppet show sing global act local.
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You need an executive MBA to compete in today's world.
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And all this, all this crap started, you know, and then,
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yeah, which was also, I mean, it's, yeah, it's, you know, we
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need, we need decentralised structures.
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And if people, you know, and we need the competition of ideas,
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meaning, you know, if let's you let's assume here in
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Switzerland, I live in Zuk. If the content of Zuk believes
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that we should be capitalised, freedom of speech, freedom of
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assembly, low taxes or no taxes whatever, that should be
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possible. And if Germany, Zurich, the city
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of Zurich, if they decide to become a socialist paradise and
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everyone owns everything and no private property and you have to
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sing the international him every morning, I mean, then they
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should do it as well. You know, let's let's try which
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which idea is going to. I mean, at the end of the day,
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people want to have yeah, food and shelter and hopefully, you
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know, some even want more. Well, I mean, Klaus Schwab wants
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you to own nothing and be. Happy.
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I mean, Schwab is, I mean, it's, I mean, I saw a video with
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Epstein yesterday. I saw the interview that the
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conversation he had with Steve Bannon and that was pretty, that
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was pretty interesting because, you know, Epstein has been sold
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to us as the, the wild sex guy, you know, child parties and so
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on and blackmailing people. But so Epstein was a choosen 1.
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He was really, you know, he was, he was chosen by Rockefeller.
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He joined the Trilateral when he was 30.
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He was at the board of the Rockefeller Foundation.
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I mean, he had contact, close contacts with the Rothschild
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family. You know, he was really the big
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mover. Much, much, much more important
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than than we always thought. So, so, I mean, it's a
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centralised system, you know, it's, and then of course, we
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have a centralised monetary system, we have these central
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banks. So they can't create money out
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of scenario, you know, they can't, they can't decide how
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much interest they want to charge.
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They can also decide who is going to receive the funds and
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who's not, who is too big to fail.
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You know, they also know the cycles when they, they know the
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crash is coming, when we increase interest rates and when
24:47
we lower it, you know, then it's so, and this is, and this, this
24:51
money system is, is a, is a big fraud.
24:53
And some people are still in there, you know, for 203 hundred
24:57
years. So it's, it's a centralised
25:00
system with centralised structures.
25:02
And then you have certain, certain families which are more
25:06
important than others. And, and, and these clubs, you
25:10
know, the council formulations, the trilateral, the Bilderbergs,
25:14
the World Economic Forum, I mean the, the Freemasons, you know,
25:19
then of course we have also a scientist, a Jewish mafia.
25:23
So all these because they also believe, I mean everyone who
25:26
believes that they are God chosen, that they are better
25:29
than others, fit into this club which we are not in.
25:35
Have you read Hans Herman Hop's book Democracy, the God That
25:40
Failed? Yeah.
25:40
Absolutely. Of course, I'm a big fan.
25:43
I know Hans pretty well. It's a it's a great.
25:47
I learned a lot from Hans, and this is the book Democracy I I
25:52
wanted to establish a classic literal party 20 years ago with
25:55
a friend of mine because we thought, let's let's go into
25:58
politics and, you know, let's bring some more liberty and
26:01
freedom. And then I read Hans's book and
26:04
afterwards I had to say, hey, forget about it.
26:06
We cannot go into politics, you know, because politics is always
26:09
force and we don't want to use force.
26:12
So it's the wrong direction. And so we've cancelled those
26:15
stuff again. But I mean, his core argument
26:18
is, is superb. I mean, basically democracy is
26:22
tyranny of the majority. And it's it's a threat to.
26:26
To freedom, Absolutely. By it's very by it's very
26:29
design. You know, no, it's a mob rule.
26:32
Yeah, it's really 51 go, you know, A goes together with B to
26:37
rob C and the next time B goes together with A to rob whatever.
26:42
So it's it's mob rule. It's it, it, it state also it
26:47
contains the wrong motivation. It's always about the
26:50
distribution of wealth. Stealing, Yeah, and also steal
26:53
your shoes. But if I get 51% in an election
26:56
in in a poll, you know then it then it will be OK.
27:00
But it's also unstable. Robbery.
27:02
But it's also unstable because it's completely open to
27:05
infiltration by foreign interests.
27:08
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, sure, sure.
27:10
I mean, democracy is not sovereign.
27:13
As I said, as I said, you know, the only, I mean, because I'm
27:16
thinking about, OK, I always tried to push the people are
27:21
also looking for new ideas or for solutions for the future.
27:24
And they, they went through this Corona, They have seen what's
27:26
that, that the government basically crossed the red line
27:29
with Corona. I think a lot of people realise
27:32
that, you know, we have a constitution and, and in the
27:35
Constitution we are protected, but all the governments all over
27:38
the world basically ignored the Constitution, you know, and, and
27:44
I think there was really a red line which a lot of people
27:46
realised, OK, I mean, if they do it once, they're also going to
27:48
do it the second time. So no, So that's then I was, I
27:54
basically always said, OK, Swiss history is decentralisation.
27:57
That's why we never had the government and we never had the
27:59
king. We have 7 presidents even today
28:03
in the system, you know, we don't have only one.
28:05
So we always had this division of power and until 1848 we
28:09
basically had a pretty good system which was limiting that
28:13
power. And so democracy, as I said, you
28:18
know, if you if you're limited to the to the the village that
28:22
you are living in, I mean, then then it's OK because you can
28:26
only vote on stuff which you are directly impacted.
28:29
But you cannot vote and somebody else outside of your village has
28:33
to pay for it because that's today's the network democracies
28:38
and all we, if we in the German speaking part have the majority,
28:42
we might rob, you know, the Western speaking part or we
28:44
might rob always. I mean, yeah, the more you scale
28:47
it, the more it gets corrupted. If you keep it as low as
28:51
possible. I think that's at least, you
28:53
know, it's part of our history. It's part of the Swiss history.
28:55
So therefore, I think, I mean, they're always talking about
28:58
build back better. I mean, they want to bring us
29:01
back to the stone ages. But I think when it comes to to
29:05
the political system of Switzerland, definitely, I mean,
29:08
then, you know, we should go back to what made us prosper and
29:12
free. And that was a non centralised
29:16
Swiss system at the end of the day, containing of of cantons
29:21
and also the democracy. Really.
29:23
You had to go to a square in the in the on the place and you had
29:27
to vote yes or no and everyone had to show that he was saying
29:30
yes or no. I mean, so it's.
29:32
But even that, even that is not all that great.
29:35
I mean, why must you vote? Just remove voting altogether.
29:39
And let's go back to, I don't know, kings, dictators who are.
29:44
Benign. No, I mean, I mean.
29:47
I also, I mean if I look, look, if I could choose, I mean.
29:50
It's private. Think about it.
29:51
Hold on, hold on, hold on to a monarch right governs because of
29:56
private property. I mean, it's the ultimate.
30:01
Yeah, I mean, he owns everything.
30:03
So if he's a smart, if he's a smart and sound monarch, then he
30:08
he makes sure that he doesn't kill his own people and that he
30:12
does not destroy his own wealth, that he's basically marrying and
30:17
trying to establish a more secure whatever.
30:19
I mean, so yeah, you own so. But I mean, monarchs.
30:23
Yeah. You know, I don't want to.
30:25
I don't I'm not the property of Sony guy claiming he's to be a
30:31
monarch because they was the biggest.
30:34
They were the biggest crooks a few 100 years ago.
30:38
The. Biggest amount of troops and
30:40
they were stealing and then they finally from pirates or whatever
30:43
for criminals, they became monarchs.
30:46
But of course there are I know all the monarchs.
30:48
I mean, I know some royal members.
30:51
And of course, when I look at the the Liechtenstein family, I
30:55
think that's I always got the very sound.
30:58
I mean, I would rather prefer to live under the Liechtenstein
31:02
rule because liberals, you know, they understand private
31:06
property, at least they're respected.
31:08
You know then not to live under the Malpatro that I'm in right
31:10
now with all this waste clowns we have in burn.
31:14
But I mean, that's the point that I'm making.
31:16
I mean, a monarch has a long term interest if he just goes
31:22
and kills the people who live on on his land and what?
31:25
That's ridiculous because then he doesn't get any.
31:27
He doesn't get any agriculture, etcetera, etcetera.
31:30
He obviously wants like a farmer, right?
31:33
A farmer who's got farm workers living on his land.
31:36
He wants them to be happy so that everything becomes
31:38
productive. There needs to be a symbiosis.
31:41
Yeah, no, absolutely. I mean, as I said, you know, we
31:45
need, I mean, you know, what do what do I want?
31:49
I mean, I always said, you know, now it's the time to find the
31:51
right neighbours. I basically want to be
31:53
surrounded with, with individuals who are, who
31:56
understand that they own themselves, you know, they are
31:58
their own. So they're responsible for their
32:00
acts and deeds, you know, takes self responsibility.
32:04
They believe in private property.
32:05
They don't steal. I mean, they, they believe in
32:07
the non aggression principles. They don't steal, they don't
32:09
betray, they don't kill. I mean, it's, it's pretty
32:12
simple, you know, and, and when I look around here in
32:15
Switzerland, then I truly, you know, we don't need, I mean,
32:18
some people believe that if we don't have a government
32:20
tomorrow, mass killing will start a mass slaughter and
32:24
everyone is going to rob the other and so on.
32:26
And I think, you know, if you would have no government in
32:28
Switzerland in certain areas, you know, the next day it would
32:32
be, you know, just a big party and people could restart
32:35
thinking, you know, how to be really productive.
32:38
But Claudio? Claudio.
32:40
But what about the roads? Yeah, absolutely.
32:44
I mean, why do we, you know, government build roads?
32:48
I mean, what, this is the biggest, this is the biggest
32:50
mafia we have in in the country. You know, the local construction
32:56
mafia. If it wasn't for the government,
32:58
we wouldn't have roads, Claudia, because nobody knows how to
33:01
build a road other than the politicians.
33:05
Yeah. You know, the most prosperous in
33:08
the past, you know, the most prosperous regions became the
33:11
ones who had not that many roads because the roads were always
33:14
used by the tax collectors. So, you know, the mountain area
33:19
and Switzerland going up to the mountain on these heavy small
33:22
roads, there was an advantage back then.
33:25
But yeah, I mean, no, I mean, we don't need government for
33:28
nothing. I mean, honestly, we don't need
33:29
to be governed. You know what we have, but we
33:31
have to. Yeah.
33:33
We, you know, we we should not, we should not just be a piece of
33:36
meat with walking around with a brain which we not use.
33:40
You know, we really should. Yeah.
33:41
We are gifted, Homo sapiens mean gifted with reason.
33:45
So every, I mean, every single person.
33:47
It's it's not dumb or, you know, stupid.
33:50
He might be brainwashed or he might be just, you know, very
33:54
materialistic living just into the day.
33:57
And you know, but this what they are, what they lack is basically
34:02
independent thinking. And also to really trying to
34:05
grasp what's going on and then come to your own conclusion.
34:08
Just to think about it once, what does it mean when they
34:11
lock, when the government says we lock down everything, You
34:14
have to stay at home. You're not allowed to go
34:16
outside. And So what does that mean?
34:17
You know, how can they do that? Why are they?
34:20
I mean, and that is, that's the beginning of the journey.
34:24
You know, when people start thinking independently, that's
34:27
why it will be so important that they can also speak freely,
34:30
because the only way to enlighten but people is by
34:33
having direct conversations and to really exchange, you know,
34:37
ideas without being afraid to be locked away.
34:40
So that's why we we need freedom of speech.
34:46
But I. Mean, I would argue that
34:50
property rights trump freedom of speech.
34:57
Property rights trump freedom of speech.
35:00
I would say that they come first.
35:03
I mean, you know, private property starts with self
35:06
ownership. Yeah, that's.
35:09
So we own our own body in mind. So it goes all together.
35:14
Yeah, you know, from Because when we own our own body in mind
35:16
and you know, freedom of speech is private property, but.
35:19
It's, yeah. But why I'm saying that?
35:21
Yeah. But Claudia, why I'm saying that
35:22
is because if we look at people around us, the, the, the
35:27
protesters and those who want to be part of movements and freedom
35:31
fighters and all this kind of stuff, they always, they always
35:34
fight for speech. Very rarely do I see them
35:37
fighting for property rights. Yeah, I mean, they don't.
35:43
I mean these are just political Mapacho identity groups which
35:46
have been created by, you know, the mass, the mainstream media.
35:50
And and so they are also, they have, you know, I mean, it's
35:54
very much collectivism, Marxism, you know, it's the illusion, the
36:00
house, whatever it's. Yeah.
36:03
But they have it's, it's toxic. They're poisoned.
36:06
They understand something's wrong.
36:07
But then, of course, you can also lead them into a wrong
36:10
direction. And as long as they just repeat
36:13
what they are being told and accept the enemy that they have
36:17
been given and so on, you know, simple, Yeah.
36:20
Simple answers, but it's all about it's really.
36:26
Yeah, that's how it works. I mean, for that's the oldest
36:29
agenda in town. That's how it works.
36:33
Well, that's why I was bringing up monarchy earlier, because
36:36
monarchy is about property rights.
36:39
And, and although I'm not a fan necessarily of, you know, being
36:43
a peasant in a Kingdom, I I think it does outweigh that of
36:47
being in a democratic society. We, we where it's more Brule.
36:53
Ultimately, I think Hans Herman Hop was arguing for natural
36:55
order as the best, where we basically govern our communities
37:02
based on voluntary agreements. But I mean, that's kind of like
37:05
what Plato was talking about, where a city shouldn't really be
37:09
bigger than 5000 people, more or less.
37:12
Because you're saying that once, once it goes beyond that, you,
37:16
you no longer know the people. Everybody becomes a number and
37:19
then it then then it becomes more complicated.
37:22
Yeah, no, I mean agreed, agreed. I mean, we don't need, but I
37:26
give you, let let me give you an example when it comes to
37:29
Switzerland with this. Even if you hated this direct
37:31
democracy on the municipality level, I mean, so we still have,
37:35
you know, so we have the municipality.
37:37
Meaning if I was living in home and my municipality or the
37:42
people leaving the municipality were raising taxes and so on, I
37:48
always had the possibility to move to another village 500
37:53
metres away, which had lower taxes.
37:56
You see. I mean, so we, so even when you
37:59
keep it on that low level, you always have to competition even
38:02
between the, the different villages and, and cities and so
38:05
on or regions. So that keeps, you know, as long
38:08
as you have the freedom to move or, or to decide with your
38:11
feats, then then is then there is competition.
38:15
And then of course, if, if one municipality is just going the
38:18
in the wrong direction, I mean then they're going to run out of
38:20
people. So I'm just saying, I mean there
38:23
are different of course I don't, I could live, you know.
38:26
Yeah, I mean somewhere and once we need a road or whatever, I
38:30
mean we could, I would have to gather anyway a few people
38:32
together and, you know, trying to organise down the street.
38:36
So I'm just saying we always need to organise ourselves
38:38
because most of the people, I mean, when you talk about
38:40
anarchy and anarchy means nothing else than without
38:43
rulers, you know. But if you talk about them, you
38:46
know, we need anarchy, no rulers and so on, Then they always,
38:51
they, they react a bit shocked because they cannot imagine what
38:54
that, what this means. You know, for most of the
38:56
people, anarchy means total chaos and destruction, which is
38:59
basically the interpretation of the left.
39:01
But it's called anomaly. You know what they understand on
39:04
their anarchy anomaly. And so I think, you know,
39:08
sometimes you have to give the people also an idea.
39:11
And I think in Switzerland, the best idea I was able to to grasp
39:15
whilst then we just go back to what we did in the past and
39:19
which really led to, to the free nation that we have become.
39:24
And the last 2530 years, I mean, it has been changed, of course,
39:27
tremendously, like everywhere, you know, middle of the 90s when
39:30
the Soviet Union collapsed. I mean, I was back then, I was
39:33
in the, in, in the, in global business, working for airline
39:37
companies. I mean, I realised how fast, you
39:40
know, everything changed and how the new Muppet Show and script
39:44
and the mass media and yeah, U.S. dollar rest of the world
39:49
reserve currency and, you know, fueling the system with credit
39:52
and so on. How how fast it took place, you
39:58
know. But what I was, what I was
40:03
alluding to also is that you're talking about anarchy, which
40:09
means without rulers. Now I live on, I live on the
40:12
African continent. So by default, we are more
40:16
anarchist than the rest of the world.
40:21
But that that's not necessarily a good thing, but it also is a
40:25
good thing. It just depends on where you,
40:27
where you're coming from. I prefer having a broken system
40:32
like that because it's difficult to explain unless you live here.
40:36
But there is a sense of freedom that comes with that chaos.
40:41
We can get away with more, if that makes sense, because we
40:44
don't have the the tight top down imposition of the state.
40:50
However, it does mean that we have everything.
40:53
Everything around us is broken just about right, like nothing
40:55
really works. But it also forces you into a a
40:59
sense of self reliance, independence.
41:03
You need to make things work because you can't rely on the
41:07
government. No, I think that's, as I said,
41:12
you know, it's different regions, different cultures.
41:15
That was also the beauty of our planet, you know, that we had
41:18
all those different cultures in in, in all different places.
41:22
And we can see that it's all this stuff is being destroyed as
41:26
well. You know, this cultural Marxism,
41:28
you know, mangle all together, destroy every single culture.
41:34
But yeah, I, you know, at the end of the day, you just want to
41:36
be surrounded with, with sound individuals, you know, and I
41:39
don't, I mean, when I look at my close friends, I mean the
41:43
closest ones that they all live abroad.
41:45
Some are, some are in Egypt, some are in the States, some are
41:49
in Asia, some are in other European nations.
41:53
And then I have, I mean, yeah, you know, it, it has to do with
41:57
the individual as such and also the principles he believes in.
42:01
And I and as long because we are gifted his reason.
42:04
So reason always drives us towards the good, you know,
42:07
because when once people realise that, yeah, we should not steal
42:10
and betray because we also don't want to be stolen and betrayed.
42:14
And it makes sense not to kill someone because you also want to
42:17
go out and have, you know, not a good evening without being
42:20
threatened that somebody could shoot you and so on.
42:24
So it's, it's really, I mean it, it stands and falls with the
42:27
individual and has nothing to do with any kind of government or
42:30
whatever. But the individual as such has
42:33
been also very much influenced by, by the local culture.
42:36
And so, yeah, you know, I just want to have good people and
42:41
there's good people surrounding us who don't want to steal and
42:44
don't, don't make. But that's the Yeah, but that's.
42:48
But that's exactly the point, Claudio.
42:51
I think people in the sort of natural habitat, if you just
42:56
leave people alone, they tend to get on right because nobody
43:01
wants conflict. The people who want conflict are
43:04
those in power, almost always. They live.
43:07
They live from it. Divide and conquer.
43:10
There's a Galien Dalactic problem, reaction, solution, and
43:13
then you drive them forward. Biden, Trump, what else now is
43:20
coming? And of course, the moment the
43:26
government says you cannot carry a gun, that should be a huge,
43:30
huge red flag. Yeah, definitely, definitely.
43:35
Especially if you're led by the system we are in.
43:39
If they want to take away your guns, I mean, then you can't be
43:41
sure that the government will come after you.
43:44
And so here in Switzerland, of course, fortunately, we are all
43:47
armed. I think, I think Switzerland is
43:50
one of the most armed countries in the world.
43:53
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. I mean, they also try to
43:56
restrict it a bit more and so on.
43:58
But we have, haven't we? We never had any big issues.
44:01
You know, we don't have those mass shootings like in the
44:03
States, which. Which are false flags anyway.
44:08
Of course, of course, of course I mean.
44:11
Those those are designed to reduce.
44:14
So those are designed to reduce gun ownership.
44:17
Gone. Absolutely.
44:18
But I mean, still, I mean, still it's a more violent culture in
44:21
the States in general when you compare it now, although
44:25
incidents with weapons and so on, than over here in
44:27
Switzerland. But we have about the same and
44:30
we hardly have any issues. So that just shows, you know,
44:33
that Switzerland still consists of a more sound society, you
44:38
know, then then for example. Because yeah, I mean, I mean,
44:42
America is, you know, for the lost since they took over the
44:45
the empire from the Brits. You know, for 70 years they have
44:48
been bombing the shade out of the rest of the world and the
44:51
regime change and and they destroyed, you know, their yow's
44:55
sending them to wars. You know, they come back when
44:58
they're 20 and so on. And it's terrible.
45:01
I mean, oh, look at the ice. I think these are all former
45:04
military guys, you know, so they were trained how to treat, you
45:08
know, the people in the Middle East.
45:09
And now they do the same with the Americans at home.
45:12
So it has an influence. And Switzerland, of course.
45:15
Yeah. We never had the war for a few
45:16
100 years now. And we never, we never fought
45:20
the war. We never.
45:22
Yeah. So it's it's more peaceful.
45:25
Yeah, but that's also, that's also an interesting observation
45:29
because apparently, Claudio, that if you have a society with
45:34
guns, there'll be more violence. Not really, no, no.
45:41
But we train, we train, you know, we, we have, we have
45:44
weapons that we can defend ourselves against the tyrannical
45:48
government. At the end of the day, that is
45:51
the basic idea of Thomas Jefferson or whoever or, or or
45:56
the judging A Politomo said once.
46:00
We don't have arms to shoot, dear.
46:03
We have arms to defend ourselves against the totalitarian
46:07
government. But that's But that's the point.
46:09
So in other words, if everybody in the country is armed, the
46:15
government will actually fear the citizens.
46:19
Yeah, sure, definitely much more.
46:21
Yeah, yeah. But the more sophistic, I mean,
46:25
there is also Carol Quigley wrote once a book about the arms
46:28
and he said the more specialised the the arms become, the more
46:33
totalitarian becomes the whole system.
46:36
And when we had the invention of the, the cult, you know, Samuel
46:39
cult, so everyone was able to buy weapons and so on.
46:43
I mean, overall that level came, that level came down again.
46:46
And now of course, I don't know. I mean, I have the feeling that
46:49
all those weapons, you know, now we can see that a lot of money
46:51
is fuelled into the military industrial complex.
46:54
So I have the feeling, you know, that these weapons in the future
46:57
might be used against the own population, you know, these
46:59
drones and all that stuff. So, so these weapons are
47:02
becoming more sophisticated and they have an advantage began to
47:07
know normal individuals with a pistol or a rifle, whatever.
47:11
So we'll see how it will turn out.
47:14
But the development overall is not pro individual.
47:18
It's it's really a bit more pro authoritarian state.
47:23
I have found, Claudia, that over the last few years there has
47:26
been a strong push in the sceptical slash, conspiratorial
47:31
slash alternative space for sovereignty.
47:36
You know, it's about bringing, it's fighting for sovereignty
47:38
again. But it's also become a bit of an
47:41
empty phrase because what do they mean?
47:44
Because that can also lead to a collectivization of of society,
47:50
which takes you back to kind of socialist, communist thinking.
47:58
Well, I mean, as I said, you know, I think at the end of the
48:03
day, important is, you know, the direction we are going and you
48:08
cannot, we cannot switch it anyway from A to B, you know, to
48:11
change from this system into another one.
48:13
We're going to have you, we're going to have a huge, you know,
48:16
we're going to have this World Economic depression.
48:18
We're going to have war, we're going to have federal wars.
48:21
That's what's coming anyway. We have, we're going to have
48:23
shortages, fame, stuff like this.
48:26
I think that's all coming. That's all linked.
48:28
I mean, that's what we have seen every eight years, but what's
48:31
coming out of it, we don't know yet.
48:33
And so as I said, you know, I just want to be surrounded with
48:37
sound individuals and I I think, you know, human beings
48:40
basically. I mean love and, you know, as
48:42
long as love exists, I mean, then it's then the game is not
48:47
over. So but you know how they want to
48:50
organise themselves. Hey, I mean, yeah, different
48:54
salute. Let's, we just have to, we just
48:56
have to come to the conclusion that people can organise
48:59
themselves and on, on a certain region and no one is going to
49:04
interfere and they should look after themselves if their model
49:06
is working. And then, but I mean, you have
49:08
to start somewhere, right? Now, well, I mean, you, you've
49:12
started somewhere by bringing out this new documentary.
49:18
You're informing. Yeah.
49:21
But maybe I don't expect that it will have a huge impact of
49:25
course, but I hopefully, but that's why.
49:28
But that's why I asked you at the beginning of the
49:30
conversation. Are most people?
49:32
Dumb. Now they're just selling sheeps.
49:39
I mean, the problem is really that's what we have seen this
49:41
Corona. I mean it is really you know,
49:44
or, or let's, let's let's call it that way, you know, only the
49:47
slave does not want to become free.
49:49
He wants to become the slave master.
49:53
So I, I distinguish between, you know, servants and free
49:58
individuals. And I have to say that I'm
50:01
surrounded with free individuals.
50:04
And I also have my Plan B where I, it's a small village, not too
50:11
many people, you know, a bit off grid.
50:14
So if stuff is coming, then I go there.
50:17
And if, if more stuff is coming, then I pick my gold.
50:20
And then I moved somewhere else. No, but yeah, I have to.
50:27
Yeah. The world is changing and I
50:30
don't have a solution. And, you know, there is no, you
50:35
know, the future will show. You know how, where if if you're
50:40
going to have enough, I'm sure we're going to have enough sound
50:43
people. And they will gather together
50:45
guys who share the same principles.
50:48
You know, that's that's all. But you also prepare through
50:57
gold and silver. Yeah, because gold and silver is
51:02
money, nothing else. It's the hardest currency on the
51:05
planet. It's also to me, it's also sound
51:09
money because you know, whenever people decide to exchange their
51:13
Fiat or paper wealth, whatever into physical precious metals, I
51:18
mean that that money is out of the system.
51:20
It's not being used, you know, for fractionally served banking
51:22
and all that shit. You know, basically the, the
51:27
system that that defines the system which is going to enslave
51:31
us. You know, it's, it's out and,
51:35
and, and you own it and you can move it.
51:38
And I think in the days which are coming, yeah, you can always
51:44
an an ounce of gold purchased a villa in Berlin during the
51:48
Weimar Republic. You know, when all these
51:51
artificial wells is an artificial denominated paper
51:57
currencies, Swiss franc or EUR, whatever, when this is going to
52:02
collapse, I mean, then, then you need money and then that's gold
52:04
and silver. And that's why also these prices
52:07
are going up. And yeah, it makes, it makes
52:13
absolutely sense because, yeah, because paper money is
52:17
depreciating. It's not that the price of gold
52:19
is rising. An ounce of an ounce of gold is
52:22
always an ounce of gold. You know what the paper paper
52:25
price for an ounce of gold is, is changing.
52:28
And mainly it's the depreciating of, of, of paper money because
52:33
they print more, they reduce interest rates again.
52:37
So you know, all the money in circulation when there is new
52:40
liquidity injected, then it's, it's losing, it's losing value,
52:45
of course. And the US dollar already lost
52:48
99% versus gold since 1971. So you still can buy a little
52:52
bit of gold with your U.S. dollar.
52:54
But I don't know how long you know this, this will last.
52:59
I think we really go in two, 2-3 years.
53:02
I think that's the peak. Of course, nobody knows.
53:06
What do you make of what do you make of Bitcoin?
53:12
I mean, I, I used to be a big fan of cryptocurrencies and then
53:17
I think 10 years, 12 years ago, we started doing conferences
53:20
about the denationalisation of money and it's great to have a
53:24
private player in competition with central banks and so on.
53:27
So the idea of, of crypto and, and Bitcoin back then, I, I very
53:31
much embraced it. And I see today and also I see
53:36
the people and how the movement has changed.
53:39
And then also that the hash or you know, that is coming from
53:41
the NSA or CIAI think it's, I think Bitcoin used to be the
53:49
teaser for the digital system that we are seeing being
53:53
established heavily and, you know, artificial intelligence,
53:57
Corona lockdowns, stay at home, all that stuff.
54:02
And that Bitcoin was just, you know, teaser that, you know, the
54:05
digital side, the digital future.
54:07
That's what it's all about. But overall, I honestly, I mean,
54:12
I don't, I own, I own a little bit, but there was always money.
54:16
I thought there. I, I purchased 10 years ago, I
54:19
think, and I haven't checked it out since then.
54:22
I, I purchased Bitcoin, Etherium and Monero and but you know, I'd
54:29
rather have hold my gold and silver and I think Bitcoin maybe
54:34
it's, maybe it was a fraud, you know, from the beginning could
54:36
be, I would not exclude that thought any longer.
54:41
A Central Intelligence operation to get us ready for stable coins
54:46
and CBD, CS and digital ID. Yeah, yeah, so to say.
54:54
I mean, Bitcoin is completely useless for me.
54:56
I also have Bitcoin, but I can't do anything with it.
54:58
I mean, I've got a wallet. Oh.
55:00
Oh, it's a cool talking point. Yeah, I've got Bitcoin.
55:02
OK, cool. What do you do with it?
55:04
No, nothing. It's pretty limited.
55:07
Yeah. I did not manage.
55:08
I mean, it never became money. You know, it could be some
55:10
people use it for real estate. I think that's the only
55:12
transaction of the one of the biggest cases that it's useful.
55:16
But yeah, I mean, even if it goes up to me, I mean, of
55:19
course, I mean, let's let's assume if I have some money and
55:23
now I have to decide, do I want to buy treasure bonds or
55:26
Bitcoin? And I don't need it for the next
55:29
few years, most likely I would also pick Bitcoin, you know,
55:33
because it's still better than the treasury bonds and all that
55:36
stuff which is going to disappear anyway.
55:38
But overall, no, I mean, the whole blockchain move,
55:41
everything is transparent, you know, everything is in the
55:43
blockchain. I mean, yeah, the other side,
55:45
you know, there every coin has two sides.
55:48
So to have that technology in a fully decentralised system would
55:52
be amazing. I think it would be, it would
55:55
allow tremendous advantages and prosperity and everything.
56:00
But in a, in a centralised system, it's, I mean, it's the
56:04
end, you know, it's the, it's total control, of course, and.
56:09
I think it's been Co opted anyway.
56:13
You mean what Co opted? But go on.
56:19
I don't understand the the question for you.
56:21
You have to elaborate a bit. No, I mean, I think like
56:25
BlackRock and some of the huge players now have have have got
56:29
into the game. Oh, yeah.
56:31
OK, yeah, I mean, it's definitely, I mean, you know,
56:34
Bitcoin also when I OK, I'm in the gold and silver.
56:36
I mean, so I was looking at the silver price over the last 10
56:39
years. And so that was silver was
56:42
hardly moving, hardly going anywhere.
56:45
And, and I just realised, you know, even when we came into the
56:48
new bull market for precious metals and silver, steel was
56:51
quiet. And then I just because you
56:55
know, the last bull market we had 2000 to 2011.
56:59
I mean, the guys who really want, you know, the
57:01
institutional money, the money managers and so on, the ones who
57:04
understood in which cycle we are going.
57:06
I mean, they were always buying silver because they were looking
57:10
for, you know, high, high, higher prices, bigger chances to
57:14
make, you know, a bigger gain. And so it was always the
57:19
speculative side who moved into silver, but that side was
57:23
missing for the past 10 years. So these guys were all buying
57:26
crypto. So even if you look at the
57:28
Western world, I mean, they have 0.6% is, is in physical precious
57:32
metals or is in precious metals at all, 0.6, I mean, hardly
57:36
nothing, but they have much more cryptos.
57:39
So I mean, crypto has also been brought up as a competitor to
57:43
gold. Of course.
57:43
That's why they were always talking about digital gold and
57:45
so on. But I think, yeah, overall, I, I
57:49
truly believe it could be part of this.
57:52
Yeah, of the script. You know, as you said before, I
57:55
I also, I would today based on the information I have on the
58:00
observations I made, I would also come to that conclusion.
58:07
OK Claudio, how can my audience watch World War Three and find
58:14
out more about gold and silver? I mean, they basically can come
58:18
to my homepage. It's Claudio grass dot chapter
58:23
and there I also have a blog. So all the interviews are going
58:26
to be released on my blog. They will also be released on on
58:29
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58:34
But if they subscribe on my page, which is free, they will
58:38
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58:41
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58:47
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58:52
information if they want to invest in precious metals and so
58:56
on. I mean, it's all there.
59:00
Claudia Gross again, my friend, thank you for joining me in the
59:03
trenches. Always a pleasure Chairman, Take
59:07
good.