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REX UNLOADS on paid protesters · Aired Out

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  Speaker 1: me this morning. Uh, brace yourself, man, How are you, buddy?
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  Speaker 1: What what e hell's going on?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Listen, you've you're your Rex.
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  Speaker 2: I'm taking more of the warning label. You you got
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  Speaker 2: to put the warning label back up.
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  Speaker 1: I am yeah, listen, I'm hoping and I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm literally I'm hoping that this is going to happen
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  Speaker 1: this morning. Uh, that we're going to be able to
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  Speaker 1: connect in with a guy named Adam Swart, who is
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  Speaker 1: the dude.
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  Speaker 2: Did you see my react? Well, you did see. You
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  Speaker 2: heard my reaction as soon as you told like, I
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  Speaker 2: didn't even let you finish and I was.
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  Speaker 1: Already You're not letting me finish now. Adam is the
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  Speaker 1: president and CEO of a company called Crowds on Demand, right.
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  Speaker 2: And we how did you explain it to me?
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  Speaker 1: We have heard we have heard the words paid protesters
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  Speaker 1: an awful lot over the last couple of months, but
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  Speaker 1: really since real job, since the summer, since like July
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  Speaker 1: August is when we.
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  Speaker 2: That guy founded it in twenty twelve, when he graduated
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  Speaker 2: from UCLA.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know you've done your homework on this guy,
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  Speaker 1: and he's hopefully going to be connecting with us at
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  Speaker 1: at some point this morning on aired out, and I
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  Speaker 1: really hope that it's going to happen because I've got
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  Speaker 1: some questions for him. I'm sure you do. Do you
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  Speaker 1: want to be part of that conversation?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Man, all right, I think it'll be a good
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  Speaker 2: lead in after we talk about like that video I
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  Speaker 2: sent Usa in just my reaact you about the all right,
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  Speaker 2: go ahead, let's just go with the reaction. So JD
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  Speaker 2: calls me yesterday and he's like, I've got this plan
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  Speaker 2: with this guy. And he goes and what was it
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  Speaker 2: you said to me? He's been on Fox News, he's
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  Speaker 2: been on several different No, but you said you were
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  Speaker 2: like he was on Fox News, he was on Fox
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  Speaker 2: and Friends. Right, That's what you said, though.
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  Speaker 1: Because you because when I said that, Yep, you didn't
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  Speaker 1: let me go anywhere beyond the F word Fox. You
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  Speaker 1: cut me off, and you didn't let me further explain
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  Speaker 1: that he's been on several.
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  Speaker 2: Networks, right, and so that just goes right in and.
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  Speaker 1: He's been on several podcasts and many networks right right.
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  Speaker 2: So, but that was a trigger for you when you
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  Speaker 2: heard me. It wasn't just it's just not it's not
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  Speaker 2: just Fox News. It's if you had told me any
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  Speaker 2: twenty four hour news station. I don't care whether if
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  Speaker 2: you said that guy's been on CNN, he's been on
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  Speaker 2: Rachel Maddow, I would have been like, okay, so you
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  Speaker 2: have a democratic operative that you're gonna bring on there
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  Speaker 2: to give your democratic view, right.
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  Speaker 1: So, so you're you're quickly reacting one hundred.
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  Speaker 2: Percent, like instantly fucking reacting to this, yeah, which brought
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  Speaker 2: me on. I was like, wait a minute, we need
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  Speaker 2: a real.
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  Speaker 1: Bag, like what like thank you?
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  Speaker 2: Uh no, you're percent. I take accountability for that ship now. Man,
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to grow. But no, butt, this guy is
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  Speaker 2: not in a political bounce, not at all, not at all.
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  Speaker 2: Because he sells. He is just about making money. He's
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  Speaker 2: about selling to who will who will ever pay him?
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  Speaker 2: If the Republicans have a huge fucking party going on,
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  Speaker 2: guess what, we're gonna make it even bigger because they're
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  Speaker 2: gonna spend one hundred thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't Yeah, he doesn't care. He doesn't care.
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  Speaker 2: If something happened here and we had to said, well,
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't care. I'd sell to both sides.
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  Speaker 1: Entrepreneur, Yeah, baby, he's capitalizing on, frankly emotion, right.
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  Speaker 2: So let's why. Why did these triggers happened? Why is
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  Speaker 2: everybody triggered these days? Why am I triggered? Why am
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  Speaker 2: I when I'm home injured with my foot up? Why
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  Speaker 2: am I doom scrolling? Why is my algorithms filled with
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  Speaker 2: ice agents beating people up?
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  Speaker 1: Dud?
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  Speaker 2: Why is it? Why am I triggered that easily? When
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  Speaker 2: one of my best friends calls me mentions Fox News,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm ready to fist fight you through the phone.
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  Speaker 2: Why is that trigger happening to everybody in the United States?
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  Speaker 1: Won if you and I were to throw fists, I
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  Speaker 1: just want to say, right now.
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  Speaker 2: Think about it, that's what that's what it's getting too.
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  Speaker 1: I know you were hot, buddy, but everybody is why
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  Speaker 1: is down? Take a deep, take a sip of your
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  Speaker 1: coffee right.
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  Speaker 2: Now, just relax. So why am I acting like this?
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  Speaker 2: Why do we act like this? What's going on?
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  Speaker 1: You tell me?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well, I watched the video yesterday. I sent you
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  Speaker 2: the video yesterday, and it was about brainwashing, how we
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  Speaker 2: all get sucked into it, how triggers why we want
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  Speaker 2: to keep people triggered that the government has been designing
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  Speaker 2: this is done by design for over one hundred years.
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  Speaker 2: They took marketing and they weaponized it because it's easier
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  Speaker 2: to get policies through. You don't even need to have votes.
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  Speaker 2: You just got to pull the levers and outrage. So
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  Speaker 2: I guess what clicked with me yesterday was once this
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  Speaker 2: outrage ends, what's the next? When was the last time
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  Speaker 2: we didn't have outrage in the United States? When was
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  Speaker 2: the last time we were not outraged? Right now? And
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  Speaker 2: so you continue, we continue this cycle. What he called
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  Speaker 2: was feeding the machine. So you always got to have
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  Speaker 2: like forty five percent of the people upset, Yeah yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and then that'll automatically create fifty percent of the people
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  Speaker 2: that aren't upset. But it creates that divide. So every
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  Speaker 2: time that you comment, and I am so guilty of
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  Speaker 2: this every time that you comment, either side, does it
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  Speaker 2: right or wrong? Sure, you're feeding that government machine.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just got to come in here. Interesting article the
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  Speaker 1: other day about how tech, especially our phones, have hijacked
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  Speaker 1: our brains, especially our ability to be patient and level headed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what that video is all about, about keeping
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  Speaker 2: you anxious, because when you're anxious, you can't you don't
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  Speaker 2: have clarity in your mind.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Right, there's no clarity there is.
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  Speaker 1: So listen, I don't know how many times I've said this,
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  Speaker 1: but we've got all of our our dysfunction and our
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  Speaker 1: problems and so on and so forth, just right here
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  Speaker 1: in this little, tiny green mountain state. Okay, yeah, then
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  Speaker 1: hold on. Then we have all of this stuff that
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  Speaker 1: we're carrying around, good and bad, but all of the
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  Speaker 1: stuff that's renting space in our head, in our private lives,
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  Speaker 1: our marriages, our relationships, our kids, all of it, our kids, schools,
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  Speaker 1: all of that all. Right. Bigger picture from that is
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  Speaker 1: the state. Bigger picture from that is the country. Imagine
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  Speaker 1: how bigger picture from that is the world. And I
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  Speaker 1: mean listen, if you're if you're if you're sick, and
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  Speaker 1: tired of of of of of scrolling through what's going
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  Speaker 1: on in Minneapolis. Shift gears over iran.
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  Speaker 2: At this, Holy, how about this? We become I become
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  Speaker 2: I not we. I become so overwhelmed with everything that's
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  Speaker 2: going on in the world, so overwhelmed. Let's change our mindset.
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  Speaker 2: Let's think about it this way. Is everything in my
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  Speaker 2: personal life perfect right now? Is everything in your personal
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  Speaker 2: life perfect right now?
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  Speaker 1: Is it? Far from it?
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  Speaker 2: Far from it? So why am I wasting any bandwidth
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  Speaker 2: outside of my personal relationship? That's it. That's the word.
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  Speaker 2: It's bandwidth. Yes, I don't. I don't have that. I
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  Speaker 2: don't right now, we need to like dumb it down. Sure, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: if you're not perfect in your marri then why are
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  Speaker 2: we arguing about anything else in the world. If you're
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  Speaker 2: not Okay, if you're perfect and you have that it
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  Speaker 2: goes back to the old Bible man, like don't throw
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  Speaker 2: stones in a glass house.
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  Speaker 1: Massy is saying limited rental space. In my mind, here's
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  Speaker 1: the thing, and I'll say this, rent is so expensive everywhere. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: there's a price tag for occupancy. Man, the price for
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  Speaker 1: for what's rented in my head is so has gone
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  Speaker 1: way up over the last couple of years. Man. It's like, literally, I.
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  Speaker 2: Feel like I've been to a soul searching for the
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  Speaker 2: past couple of years.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, I literally don't have time to sit and get
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  Speaker 1: worked up about certain things. Other things will kind of
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  Speaker 1: get under my skin until I realize, holy shit, man,
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  Speaker 1: where is that on the priority list? Right now?
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  Speaker 2: You've got bigger fish. Sometimes we need to step back.
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  Speaker 2: I needed to step back yesterday. God. The doom scrolling
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  Speaker 2: that it's so it's not.
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  Speaker 1: It's so easy to do. Tom Murphy talks about doom
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  Speaker 1: scrolling and.
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  Speaker 2: Why you know why my best friend Ed Collins talks
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  Speaker 2: about it. He's like, stop, dude, the doomscrowling. We like you.
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  Speaker 2: Friends like that always going to be there. You don't
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  Speaker 2: need friends to sit around and tell you, yeah, what
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  Speaker 2: you're doing is great even when they know it's shitty.
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  Speaker 2: That's not a real friend. Ed Collins is a real friend.
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  Speaker 2: Ed's gonna tell you hey, and Ed doesn't want to
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  Speaker 2: hear It's okay, Ed. You can act like that. No, No,
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  Speaker 2: you can't. No, Rex, you can't act like that. You
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  Speaker 2: need to stop being a fucking read there. I'm sorry
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  Speaker 2: that I said that word.
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  Speaker 1: You should be, but I understand your point. I understand
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  Speaker 1: your point. Right, we have and listen, Paul Brodie is amazing.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever heard what he has
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  Speaker 1: to say about attachment theory and why we get worked
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  Speaker 1: up about the things we get worked up about, and
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  Speaker 1: that you know.
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  Speaker 2: It's by design.
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  Speaker 1: You have to ask yourself a year from now, Seriously,
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  Speaker 1: a year from now, will this matter or I just
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  Speaker 1: don't even or or even or even go go.
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  Speaker 2: But that's not that that you can't say that. You
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  Speaker 2: can't say that.
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  Speaker 1: I can say that I do all the time.
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  Speaker 2: No, because when when people look at something, you're still media,
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  Speaker 2: like for example, the lady that got killed in Minnesota,
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  Speaker 2: when you say was it worth it? You're now you're
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  Speaker 2: talking about human lives. They are This by design is
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  Speaker 2: attach It is attacking your very fiber, the very your
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  Speaker 2: I don't, Yeah, you can't. But what you can say
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  Speaker 2: is what's the next outrage? How long do you want
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  Speaker 2: to stay outraged? Because it'll be never ending. There will
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  Speaker 2: always be an outrage. They will always take advantage of
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  Speaker 2: an outrage. Yeah, so you can say was it worth it?
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  Speaker 2: And people will justify that in their head. Yes it
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  Speaker 2: was worth it. A person got killed. I fought my
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  Speaker 2: ass off.
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  Speaker 1: Yes it was worth it. Yeah, yeah, I know what
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  Speaker 1: you're saying. But and it's just there's there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of stuff that emotionally bonds us and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: stuff that emotionally divides us. And yeah, if if you're if,
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  Speaker 1: if you're if you're listening right now and you're not
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  Speaker 1: aware of what's happened in Minnesota, in Minneapolis.
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  Speaker 2: If you want to be triggered and you want to
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  Speaker 2: fight with your friends, dude, everybody on the right is
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  Speaker 2: going to tell you how it's justified. Everybody on the
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  Speaker 2: left is going to tell you how it's not justified.
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  Speaker 2: It's murdered. And it's there's no in between, there's no
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  Speaker 2: middle ground. It's a it's a fight to be right.
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  Speaker 1: But here here's the thing. No matter which side you
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  Speaker 1: land on, you're still feeding the machine. It's chaos. Yes, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying the facts are yes, it's chaos. They're rioting.
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  Speaker 1: This is outrage. I can't believe the pictures I'm seeing
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  Speaker 1: that this ship is flying in America. Man, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we had another shooting last night, and the thing that
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  Speaker 1: has gotten to me. The guy was shot in the
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  Speaker 1: leg illegal Venezuelan who used his car to ram. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if it was another car or the crowd
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  Speaker 1: or whatever the hellp but he used his car and
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  Speaker 1: people ran out of their houses and and the and
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  Speaker 1: joined how but to hold two people ran out of
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  Speaker 1: their houses and joined this guy from Venezuela to attack this.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe this, No, there's maybe Rex, Maybe Rex, you didn't
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  Speaker 2: watch that video. Maybe Rex. I'm just saying it's chaos.
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  Speaker 2: Operation Mockingbird. Do you know what Operation Mockingbird is? Did
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  Speaker 2: you watch that video I sent you?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Okay? What is Operation Mockingbird?
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  Speaker 1: Rex?
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  Speaker 2: What is Operation mocking Bird?
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  Speaker 1: I don't Rex.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you stop. Operation mode not connected? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: go ahead. Operation Mockingbird was back in the what sixties seventies?
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  Speaker 2: Every single news station was run by the CIA. Every
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  Speaker 2: single Walter Concrete worked for the CIA. They push propaganda. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: So that was part of that guy's video when he said,
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  Speaker 2: when you see something on the news, when you see
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  Speaker 2: something on a video, you can look at that and
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  Speaker 2: there there's going to be a narrative. They're going to
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  Speaker 2: tell you what you saw and your reaction should be
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  Speaker 2: maybe maybe it did happen that way, maybe it didn't,
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  Speaker 2: and I wasn't there, so maybe it did.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it didn't there.
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  Speaker 2: Because everything is but a controlled chaos by design.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes I think we can get a little caught up
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  Speaker 1: in conspiracy theories too.
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  Speaker 2: This isn't a conspiracy though. This is just this is
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  Speaker 2: actual like programs that they've been doing for one hundred
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  Speaker 2: years to control masses. I mean, we've been studying this
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  Speaker 2: for years.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Hopefully Adam Swart is going to be connecting
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  Speaker 1: with us because we've got some pretty good questions for him. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: breaking right now.
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  Speaker 2: What happened to Becky?
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  Speaker 1: She's saying she's done on what? Why?
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  Speaker 2: What did I do?
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  Speaker 1: President Donald Trump's junior battles Yes, is saying right now
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  Speaker 1: that he is possibly going to be invoking the Insurrection Act,
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  Speaker 1: allowing him to deploy troops as protests against immigration and
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  Speaker 1: customs enforcement persists in Minneapolis there. It is right from
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  Speaker 1: the Associated Press. This is happening right now this morning. So, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, is there a ceiling to all of this?
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  Speaker 1: When are things? When is the temperature going to come
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  Speaker 1: down here?
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  Speaker 2: It's not. The temperature has not gone down for one
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  Speaker 2: hundred years. It's just going up and up and up
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  Speaker 2: and up. It hasn't gone down. It's not going down,
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  Speaker 2: all right. It doesn't matter who's in power either, right.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me about your your week and how things are
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  Speaker 1: go ahead. What do you mean, how did you how
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  Speaker 1: things are going well for you?
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  Speaker 2: You sound frustrated.
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm not frustrated. But tell me tell me about
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  Speaker 1: you know, you've you've you said you've got some revelation
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  Speaker 1: that you want to share some good positive stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you want to go into that right now, Let's let's.
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  Speaker 1: Go there, because at some point here in the next
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  Speaker 1: fifteen minutes or so, I'm hoping to hear from Adam Swart.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well, let's just go on to the whole. Like
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  Speaker 2: like I said, man, I watched that video for me.
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  Speaker 2: That was an eye opener, that was an epiphany.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I am frustrated as fuck. You're right there, said it, Gouiet.
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  Speaker 2: What's going on?
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  Speaker 1: Man, I'm frustrated.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Over what did I do it?
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: No?
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: What is frustrating? I just get it out aired out right.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Now because I don't. I'm sick and tired of hearing
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: all the conspiracy shit. I really am, I really am.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: What's happening in Minnesota is what's happening in Minnesota, and
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: it is what it is. And that's the reality of
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: what's happening. People are getting attacked, people are getting shot.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: There is absolute, complete fucking chaos in Minnesota right now.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: And you don't think it's done by design.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I think that there's that. There are plenty of people
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: that are throwing gas on the fire.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Yes, So so do you do you think it's the
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: civilians that are causing this or do you think it's
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: the government that caused this?
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: I think it's both. I think it's both.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: And how is that a conspiracy?
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's a conspiracy. See I think that
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: I don't either. Okay, I thought you were saying.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: No, absolutely not, there's nothing conspiratory.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: That's what I was frustrated.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: I feel like our government is doing this by design,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: and I don't care what side they're on. This is
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: how you pull the levers without going to the voting
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: boosts you get. So as long as you can create
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: fifty percent of the people angry, now you've created the divide.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: That's all you need. You just need forty five to
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: fifty percent of the people to be angry. That's now
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: you have a divide. Now you can control. I mean,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: that's not and that's not a conspiracy. That's exactly how
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: you do it in other countries. That's how we did
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: it so Somalia. Back in the day when I was
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: in the military in Somalia, what we did was we
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: purposely put troops on the ground and then we made
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: them do a police action. And they're not they weren't.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: They were tenth mountain infantry soldiers didn't know how to
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: interact with people. That was that was purposely done by design.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Right, So she says forty five If in fifty percent
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: equals ninety five percent, what happened to the other five percent?
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying it. Crease that divide, that's all. You
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: just need to convince. If you only got ten percent
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: of the people upset about something, there's no divide. You
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: can't control them. But if you got forty five percent
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: of the people, now you've created that divide. Because now
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: you have you got this fifty percent of the people
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: that are on your side. You got this fifty percent
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: of the people that are upset, and you keep them clashing,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: you throw fire you throw gas on each side of it. Yeah,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Adam Swart's making money off of that. Yeah, one hundred percent.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: You saw the protester in Minnesota that walked out there
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: and started burning the flag and then all the protests
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: are They're like, you're paid to be here, Who the
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: fuck are you get out of here? It was a
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: so no, man, I'm not saying this is a conspiracy,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: and I'm not. I'm just saying that this is not that.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: It's not gonna change, it's not gonna this is by design.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: And before he connects in with us, please do tell
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: what's so. Let's go back to where you were, where
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: you were headed.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: That's where I was headed. I was talking about like
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: just the outrage, like the outrage everything in your life.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: If you and this is how I'm gonna view this
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: is how I view it right now a couple of things.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Outrage is not going to stop. There's always going to
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: be this is the new thing. There's always going to
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: be something to be outraged about, doesn't matter what side
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: you're on. So you can pick that, you can pick
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: that chaos in your mind, and you can put yourself
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: in that jail cell. And I put myself in that
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: jail self for quite a while now, and I'm gonna
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: let myself out in a way that we get so
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: enamored because I can make a negative post, or I
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: can make a political post that turns negative and it
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: blows right up. I can post a poem. I posted
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: a poem a few days ago. How many people read it? Right?
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Two people?
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a wonderful poem. I read it. I
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: loved it. Yeah, But I know what you're saying.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: So we get addicted to that fucking p hitting that
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: like button, people hitting that love button. You know the comment, Ah,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: you wait for your phone to ring. Oh there's a comment.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: I can argue with somebody. You live in that constant chaos.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: So my thing was I felt like I was fighting
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: for the right thing. Okay, cool, that is cool that
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: you're a righteous person and you're fighting for that. But
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: how do you win? What do you win?
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I understand?
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, So now I've done all of this fighting and
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: nothing's changed. What's the next outrage?
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: So why am I sitting here for the past year
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: and a half, two years just fucking in chaos when
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: it's not changing. The outrage is not changing. It's switching sides,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: but the outrage is not changing. We're getting stuck in
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: our own heads. We're fighting with our friends and our neighbors.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: We are in We're taking politics and wrapping up that
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: flag around our body and making it our personalities.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Mass He just wrote ambulance chasers. Yeah, yeah, I do.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I know a few. Yeah, mainly one God.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: So if you don't, if you are not, if you're
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: in a bad especially if you're in a bad place.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: And obviously people can catch on to me because my
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: emotions start if I'm in a bad place, like relationship
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: wise or something like that. Oh dude, I go nuts.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: And then I can lash out on everybody on there
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: and tell them what piece of shit they are for
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: supporting this or supporting that. And and the reality is
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: it has nothing to do with politics. It has to
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: do with my own home life that is in chaos itself.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Right, And that's just adding to to everything. Yeah, just
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: adding to everything.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Man. It just and you're like, oh, it's so simple,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: but is it? Like yeah, yeah, I started a new
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: protocol this morning. I got up at six am, I
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: did a workout, I didn't turn the news on limited
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: social media. I'm gonna keep doing that. I'm gonna keep
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: on that protocol for a while.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I I think that's wonderful. It's just there's so many
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: comments coming in. Uh, we can't control us, so don't
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: let it control you. That's how I feel. And it's
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: another comment here. Honestly, Uh, wonder what things would be
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: like if everyone made a decision to not look at
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: any news or headlines for a week or more?
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Right, can you imagine? Yeah? The government would fail because
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: they'd have nobody to support them.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: And that's the thing is every it doesn't matter what
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: side you are on. As soon as you make a comment,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: you feed the government machine. Yeah. If you start thinking
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: about it that way, you're like, oh, wait a minute,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: am I hurting that person? Am I changing that person's mind?
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Or am I feeding the government machine? Right? Yeah?
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just trying to get Adam on here.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Is he coming on?
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping, I'm hoping, I mean, he's you know, we'll see, Okay,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping. Just send sent him another link. But yeah, man,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: it's like listen, you know, Tom said. Tom Murphy said
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: something to me not long ago.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: And he was like, he's such a good deedy.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: He really is. And he was like, JD, you're you're
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: running out of time. I wish we are all running
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: out of time. We don't know when we're going to
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: be taking our last breath, when we're going to live
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: our last day, when we're gonna have our last moment,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: our last basketball game with our kid, what our last
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Christmas whatever. Man, It's like, at some point, at some point, man,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: we just gotta uh do what's best for ourselves. And
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: if that's unplugging from the media for a little while,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: which so many were literally addicted to it. We're literally
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: addicted to Yes, we love the drama, we love Oh
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: my god, did you hear about that mentality?
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's you know what I'm saying, Yeah, it's
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: by design. It started as marketing, and then the government
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: was like, wait a minute, you're learning how to market
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: to people. If you learn how to market to people,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: how could we use that to our advantage. They've been
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: studying this for a hundred fucking years.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: So, and it affects every bit of your life, Like
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: how many people have been online? Check this out? You've
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: been online. I've been sitting here will Honestly, I wish
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: that big motherfucker. Aaron Foundry had grabbed me like a
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: year ago by the throat, slapped the shit out of
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: me and said, hey, dummy, get the fuck offline. Think
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: about this, how your day is going. You could be
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: having a great day and then you doom scroll for
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: a little bit. You get on there, you see something
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: that triggers you. You make an argument, and then your
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: wife goes, hey, Rex, what do you want for dinner? Yeah?
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck what you make right now?
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Right? Oh, well, where the fuck did that come from?
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: You know, La, I know, man, last night, phone in
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: hand and I see, you know, the tensions rising in Minneapolis,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: and I see the news break that there's just been
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: another shooting, a second federal officer shooting. And I'm sitting
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: there and I'm shaking my head like, oh my god, man,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: and literally it wasn't. Thirty seconds later, Lily is like, Dad,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I'm heading up to my room to read. Would you
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: like to come with me? I took the through that phone.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Put your phone out of arms reach when you get home,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: so it forces you to physically think about it to
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: go get your phone. If it is within arms reach,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: you will continually doom scroll.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: I know, man, And I got to tell you to
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: have a child who doesn't care about this stuff, doesn't
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: understand this stuff, just wants to be present.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: It's like dealing with Dante and man, it's so great
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: to be around people that don't give about anything else.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Just it's a gift.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Just happy. That's it.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: My buddy Andy is hell. Yeah, one of the greatest
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: gifts I've ever received.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: And we're going to that every day. What are we
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: doing that that? What is it? Night to shine?
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Night too shine?
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Oh fuck, I can't wait for that. I'm excited for that.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: I'm registered for that. I'm gonna wear my tuxedo. You're
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: gonna wear your tuxedo. I'm gonna meet that girl. She
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: sent me a private message. I don't know what her
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: name is. She said, I get to meet her that night.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: She comments all the time on here, so I'm excited
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: to meet her.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Donna says, it be in the moment, you know,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: just be be present where you are.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: That's like, that is huge right now for me and
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: my own relationship with my wife. Being present right now.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: I haven't been present, but and it's not easy. Man.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: I'm we're all guilty of it. We're including myself, we're
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: all guilty of it. But but if, if, if it's
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: possible for you to tap your own breaks, you get
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: when the momentum is going though, right and and the spin,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: But tap your own breaks and just just take a second.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: And it's like, oh my god, make sure everything in
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: your life is squared away before you start arguing with
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: somebody online. Yeah, if you can't honestly sit down and say,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: my life is fucking great, everything's going good, then don't
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: expand outside of that. Fix whatever that is, because all
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: of that's gonna come out in your arguments when I'm
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: arguing with my friends online and shit like that has
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: very little to do with politics. It has to do
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: with my own emotional response, my own childhood trauma has
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: to do with me lashing outre I do it to
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: my wife, to my friends, Fuck, I do it to you.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I mean, here's the thing. I mean, any
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: anyone is listening right now that has friends has done
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: that to their friends. And that's part.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Of growing in a friendship exactly, relationship exactly.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing, man, It's like when you're sitting at
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: the kitchen table and there's thirty inches that are on
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: the feeder and on the ground, and a cardinal comes
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: in and it's beautiful, and you're sitting there in the
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: moment and you don't You're looking right at the bird feeder,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: but you don't see anything. And your kid says, hey,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Dad or mom, look at all the birds in the
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: bird feeder. And your eyes are right on those birds,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: but you never even saw them. So you need to
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: get rid of that shit. You're in twenty twenty six. Man,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: You're lucky.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: So you have a child present in your life right now,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: so they remind you every day of what is important.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: My kids are grown right now. So this is like
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: me and my wife have really been going through some
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: really really tough times, especially at our age, with everything
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: that comes up. And I have so many friends right
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: now in my DMS that are going through divorces. Is
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: everybody is given up. They're like, fuck this, I just
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: give up. Okay, so let's get into this.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: I will get older. Your hormones are changing. Male and
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: female doesn't matter one and that's just complicated shit even more.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so you have you not only have that,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: you have you have your roles, You have your your
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: roles in a relationship. I don't care if it's male female, male,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: male couple, whatever it is, you have your roles in
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: your relationship. And this was an eye opener for me.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: I found out that I freaked out a lot because
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: I have an anxious attachment. So every time that I
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: would think about, like if I thought my wife was
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: angry or so, I was like, oh, great, she's gonna
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: leave me. I have nothing else. There's nothing for me
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: after my wife. I literally am willing to just end
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: it all and just be done because there's nothing else.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: I don't have anything else. That's the last thing that
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: I have in my life. Yep, was my wife. This
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: caused a lot of problems. This caused a lot of fights,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: and this was a lot of blame. I would throw
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: blame at her. This is very personal. So I asked
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: my wife to leave. Okay, my wife and most people
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: that know my wife, she's a wonderful person, she really
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: really is. But I had to and it had nothing really,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: it didn't have to do with her. I had to
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: sit in my own shit, my own emotions, and realize
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: that I can do this on my own. I had
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: to force myself. I had no contact with my wife.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: We've had no contact none. This is the first time
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: since her deployment's thirty years ago, twenty five years ago,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: that I've never had contact with my wife for this
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: amount of time. Panic attacks, fucking anxiety, up at three
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning, uncontrollably crying, all of that shit.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: To finally come to realize I'm gonna be okay. I
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: had to put myself through that. I had to face
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: my own childhood trauma, my own anxious anxiety. I have
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: to work on myself in order to work on my marriage.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: So what I've done is I'm taking everything where I
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: would I help all of my friends. I worried about
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: the whole world, and I've had to dumb it down.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: I've had to dumb it down to even lesser. I
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: can't worry about the problems of the world. I can't
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: worry about the problems of my community. I can't worry
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: about the problems of my friend. I can't worry about
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: the problems of my marriage. I can only worry about
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: the problems of me for right now. So I've had
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: to slow it down boom boom boom, and to stop
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: from being overwhelmed. I have to grow on my own.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: I have to take responsibility for my actions. I can't
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: be angry at my wife. I can only be angry
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: at myself. I can only take care.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Of me, connecting, connecting the dots backwards. Yes, which is
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: what Tom was talking.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: About, realizing the role. So what happened? My wife kept
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: asking me what can I do to make this better?
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: What can I do? And I didn't have the answers
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: because I didn't know what the problem was. I really didn't.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: She goes, what changed? What is this? I'm screaming at
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: my wife. I want you to be soft, I want
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: you to be this woman. I want this. And then
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: it came to me while I was sitting there in
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: all my own shit, and I was like, it happened
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: two years ago. Women ask you to be vulnerable, they
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: want you to open up, they want this. But there's
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: a role that we play. There's a biological role. You
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: have your protector in the family and you have the
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: soft nurturer in the family. Two years ago, my mother
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: died and I opened up and it was a floodgate
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: like it was an unc controllable always opening up to
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: my wife. Well, what started to happen was that dynamic
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: and our marriage changed. So I'm no longer the protector.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: I'm now this vulnerable person. So her body doesn't know
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: what to do now she's turning into the protector. Because
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: women need to feel safe, Women need to feel protected,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: and if you're not playing that role. So for two years,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: I've been trauma dumping, crying, thinking it's okay to dump
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: all the shit on my wife. That is not for
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: your wife, that is for your boys, That is for
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: your fucking therapist. Your job is to be that protector
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: to make sure they feel safe, because that's what women need.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: That or not just women. That is a couple. You'll
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: notice even male male couples, they'll have one guy that's
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: just a tougher, stronger guy to have the more effeminive
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: You need that dynamic relationship in order for it to work.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: When we get older and we start trauma dumping on
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: our significant others, they don't understand. They're like, they don't
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: view us the same and they don't know what's going on.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Next thing, you know, you're fifty year is all getting
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: a fucking divorce because you're just so angry and you
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: don't know what's going on when? And so now we're
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: gonna go to therapy, not because I to stay together,
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: but to learn how to communicate properly.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: M M.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: You can do it, man, if you're in love with
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: that person, you can make it work. You really can.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: They can be super fucking frustrating where you just want
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: to throw your hands up and and give up. And
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: then add social media, politics and everything else on top
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: of that. Yeah, boy, I'm a piece of shit. Who
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: the fuck wants to come home to me?
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: You make yourself super hard to love.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and and then and then you got somebody uh
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: trolling you on on social media and continuing to throw
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: gas on the fire, and you're arguing back and forth,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: and you think you're gonna you're gonna win that argument
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: or sway sway their political opinion or get them to
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: see your side. It's just it's just your wasting your
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: damn time.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: You have to have faith that everything is going to
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: work out. Here we go. We got him right here,
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: all right, we got him right here.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Adam. Good morning, good morning, good.
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: Morning, good morning, JD.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: How are you man. We're so happy to have you here.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: I have I have a co host, Rex with me here.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Man tell us, first of all, thanks for your your
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: time this morning, But tell us a little bit about yourself.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: How did you how did you design a business model?
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: What was your your idea to come up with a
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: company that hires protesters?
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: Ah?
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: Sure, well the idea was based on the principle that
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: context is everything. So imagine the greatest speeches of all time,
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: deliver it in front of an audience of five people,
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: nage Martin Luther King, Is I have a speech? Imagine
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: if you're a fan of Donald Trump, you know some
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: of his biggest hits, Right, Imagine Barack Obama's two thousand
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: and four Democratic Convention speech. Imagine if no one was
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: there to see it, it would not have the same residence.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: Context is everything, and so much of context, because of
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: human psychology, is having attendees. Right, So, whether it's having
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: attendees at your product launch, you know, putting together a
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: protest to contextualize someone else's event, right, whatever you're doing,
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: one of the big things is context. And we provide
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: that context. And I think that's really the inspiration. I've
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: noticed that so many times in so many different fields.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: So whether there's that political connotation or as simple as
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: have you ever been out in New York or LA
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: and you see someone who looks like a celebrity, but
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: like you don't know that they're a celebrity.
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: I'm terrible with faces. I wouldn't know.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: But if I see a bodyguard, if I see camera
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: people following them, Okay, well then I know.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: So I guess my sense is context is everything.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: You as the CEO and founder of this company called
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Crowds on Demand. It states on your website that you
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: are best known for organizing passionate demonstrations, rallies, flash mobs,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: corporate PR events Like you were just suggesting lighthearted events
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: such as paparazzi, brand ambassadors, PR stunts. But what's happening now? Politically?
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Are you? Are you part of what's been going on
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: in DC? Are you part of what's been going on
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: in Minnesota and elsewhere?
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: Well no, in terms of anything illegal that you see
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: as not us, right, We're a law abiding business that
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: uh so, like when you see vandalism, riots, blocking the
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: roads without a permit, right, and obviously any kind of
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: violence that's not us. And I one of the reasons
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: I go on these sorts of podcasts is to make
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: sure that people don't associate us with that.
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: Right, what we do.
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: We are in persuasive advocacy company. We specialize in comprehensive
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: advocacy campaigns that are persuasive. And yes we are boisterous,
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: we are loud, but we are respectful and we are persuasive.
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: So, like it's a very important distinction.
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: We do advocacy, We do protest the right way.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: If it's a paid protester or a regular protester, Yeah,
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: how do you that's a great question.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: How do you know?
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: I mean it's like, are you kind of like say, hey,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: if I walked up and said, are you a paid protester?
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Are you required to say that?
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: Or like so, no offense, but like I kind of
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: feel like it's like almost a juvenile question. Don't take
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: that personally, but I feel that, like every protester has
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: some reason to be there, Like, so, why do you
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: care if it's a paid protester?
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: Well, the idea is, well, if you're being paid, then
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: you don't really care. Well, so therefore we have to
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: take that less seriously. Right, So that's that's why you
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: would say you'd care, Well, what if someone was there
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: at a protest because they're trying to get laid right.
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: What if they're there at a protest so that they
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: can post it on Instagram and look cool. What if
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: they're there at a protest because a union told them
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: to be there. What if they're at a protest because
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: their friend told them to be there and they didn't
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: want to piss off the friends. So all of those
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: other things are ulterior motives that mean that they're not
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: purely there because of the cause. So it's like it's
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: kind of juvenile to say, like, oh, well, we care
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: so much about oh if someone's paid like one hundred dollars,
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: because all those motivations that I just gave you might
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: be worth like way more.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Than No, that's a filler. That's like a filler when
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: you're eating something and you don't have enough food, so
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: you fill it in with something else. It's not the same,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: it's this. It has a different nutritional value. Are these
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah.
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: Well but but I guess so.
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: Are you saying that people should have purity tests before
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: they go to a progress?
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: I think that they I think that they should be
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: recognized as a paid protester.
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: But what about what I just said in terms of
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: all of the those other groups that have ALTERI your motivation.
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: So if you just went because your friend asked you
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: to be there and you don't give a shit about
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: the cause, like does that should that also be disclosed?
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I think a payment makes a difference. I do
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: think of payment versus an ideology is a huge difference.
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: Give you a non ideological reason we're there to get
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: like that's not ideological?
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: How many people are in that crowd that are like that?
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: I I mean, I don't know. I don't think. So
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: you're making assumptions, are they?
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: Well, you're I mean, I'm just saying.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: We know that you're paying people to be there. You're
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: making an assumption people are there for alter motives, but
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: you don't know.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: You're just saying intrinsically.
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: There are a lot of people when I've met that
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: the go to protests for reasons other than that they
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: care about the couch. Like a great example the Real
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: Housewives of Orange County. Some of them went out to
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: the BLM protests in the summer of twenty twenty. Right,
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: Do you think that they went because they care about
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: institutionalized races?
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: No, But we know who they are and we understand
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: that we know who they are, and we understand that
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: if you're an Instagram guy, we know what you're doing.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: But if you have a whole crowd of people that
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: are being paid, you don't know that. You don't know
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: what that crowd. There could have been three people there
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: and you sent another fifty that are paid. Yeah, well
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: I mean, so first of all, like, okay, we're going
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: back and forth, but let me just talk a little
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: bit about the Crowdsonerman business. How we do it is
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: we also only alter for people who actually care about
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: the cause. So like vet everybody individually to make sure
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: that they care about the cause.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: So you don't put out a mass thing like hey,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: I'll pay you whatever one hundred bucks and just whoever
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: shows up get other there there's some vetting. There is
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: some vetting.
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah exactly.
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: So what we do is we vet people, right, so
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: we we make sure that hey, you actually do care
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: about the cause. So everyone who participates in any of
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: our events typically gets interviewed on a video conference in
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: person on the phone, you know, thirty minutes per person
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: to make sure that they agree with the cause and
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: share our commitment to peaceful, respectful advocacy.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: That's fair, and and how are they how are they funded?
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: How do you determine how they're funded? And who specifically
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: is paying the bill for these left protesters these right protesters.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: And you know, another question is is what percentage do
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: you think think is left leaning versus right leaning for
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: for paid protesters.
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: Well, what's really interesting, So we're really proud to work
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: with conservatives and liberals when they're both advancing common sense causes.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: I mean I'm a political independent, and that doesn't mean
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: I'm a mercenary. It means that I have kind of
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: very independent common I like to say common sense views, right,
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: So anything that's sort of generally in align with alignment
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: with common sense, I typically will take right. So in
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: regards to left versus right, well, protest tends to be
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: an oppositional thing, right, So when you're in power, you
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: tend to use protests less than when you're not in power.
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: So in California we run probably a lot more conservative
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: campaigns because liberals are in power. In more conservative places,
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: we might run more liberal campaigns. So what I love
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: is I'm I'm like a free speech absolutist, So I'm
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: on the side of making sure that people can hear
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: their views and making sure that those views are are
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: heard loud and clear in a respectful, passionate manner.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: What what what do you exp what's expected of some
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: of these paid protesters? What are what are their services
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: that that they're providing? They're getting paid by you to
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: represent what they are invested in emotionally, yes, but what's
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: expected of them to to be loud, to wave flags?
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: And and how do you how do you uh have
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: a grasp on preventing them from it's getting too emotionally
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: hot where now there's there's there's damage being done. Now
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: we've got cars getting flipped over, there's fires that.
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: Are That's not how we do it. That's not how
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: we do it well.
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: Number One, one of the if it's a commonsated demonstrators
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: is they want to get compensated, so they have to
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: kind of do things our way, right, So, and our
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: way is to not do those illegal activities right. So,
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: as I said earlier, we vet people, We interview them
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: to make sure that not only they care about the cause,
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: but they're committed to the cause of the idea of peaceful,
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: respectful advocacy.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: So if we don't think that they're there for that purpose,
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: then we don't want them.
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: We'll also kick people out if they feel if we
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: feel like they're not doing that. But I will say
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: we've never had an incident in thirteen years of operation,
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: and I attribute that to two factors. Number one or
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: vetting process, and number two the fact that we say
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: no to a ton of perspective clients, even like clients
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: that are offering us, you know, lots of money, because
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: when I feel like a situation is going to be
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: too risky for our people, even if it might be
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: something lucrative, we'll say no to it. I mean, I'm
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: not here trying to build like the biggest business in
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: the world. I'm here to be a persuasive publicity firm
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: focused on advancing cool, common sense causes, interesting businesses, and
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: helping people resolve difficult to resolve issues.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: Who's who's paying for who's footing the bill for for
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: these protesters? Is it coming from campaigns?
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: Well, that's actually another kind of misnomer. Is generally knock campaigns.
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: Generally what we do is issues more than candidates. So
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: it might be a group that's trying to block more
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: taxes being like to increase taxes in a particular state
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: that would hire us to run a campaign.
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: Right, it might be a group.
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: That's focused on stopping you know, the construction of a
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: power plant in a region. It might be a particular
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: philanthropic donor who is interested in particular things that to
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: their area of concern.
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: So it really it really depends. And again a lot
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: of what.
• 54:06
  Speaker 5: We do as an even political there these are business
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: disputes or other things like that.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: The the demand for your business, which is called crowds
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: on demand, UH, if people want to look it up
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: and see your website. The demand has been massive. You're you,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: you're quoted as saying that your company has received how
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: much percent more paid protesters this year than last year?
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: So very important thing.
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: This is what the big thing to remember is we
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: have received four at this point. Honestly that is something
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: that that uh was advertised in the summer, but it
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: may be higher at this point in requests.
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: But it's very.
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: Important that I say that requests are not bookings. So
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: we have received more requests this year than probably any
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: than any other year by like a major major factor
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: this year being twenty twenty five.
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: Obviously, I know we're in twenty twenty six now. But
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: the thing is.
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: That we have not taken on all these requests, so
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: like our actual bookings are up a bit, but our
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: our requests are are up massively because.
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of people who want our services.
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: But we have to be judicious in what we take
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: on because again I'm very proud of the fact that
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: we've never had a serious incident, and I attribute that
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: to really vetting these causes carefully, clients and making sure
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: that that we're putting people, we're not putting people in
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: a concerning situation and other yea simply put that a
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: lot of requests, maybe the budget doesn't match the ambition.
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: Like if you're trying to do a national scale effort
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: and your budget is like twenty thousand dollars, that that
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: might not really work.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: How much your pay protesters getting paid from your company?
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: And what's your biggest crowd that you've sent out, So
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: the biggest is doubly into thousands, but the in regards
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: to the h In regards to other question, the payment
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: really depends on what they're being asked to do.
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: Like some of our events are literally providing an audience
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: for a product launch, which is very easy. You just
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: sit in the audience chair and get some free lunch.
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: So that's a much easier assignment than for example, holding
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: a sign in minus ten degrees from eight am to
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: six pm.
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: So you know, not all events are created equal, and
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: therefore it would be I couldn't say like an exact
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: amount of pay.
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: It also depends on where it is.
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: I mean, if you're doing an event for a conservative
• 56:50
  Speaker 5: cause in New York City, you may have to pay
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: a little bit more. You may have to pay a
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: little bit more for like maybe a liberal cause.
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: And right, So what I like to say just to
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: go address the point.
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: From earlier where we were kind of going a little
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: bit back and forth, you know, all in good respect.
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: But the thing is that what I like to.
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: Say is we pay people enough to compensate them for
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: the opportunity cost of going to the event, but not
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: so much that it would cause them to abandon their convictions.
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: So that is to say, like I would ask your audience,
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: whatever your political views are, would you turn out to
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: an event that you disagreed with just because someone paid
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: you like one hundred and fifty two hundred dollars.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: You know how many people would do that right now.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: You know how many people would do that right now?
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: So many people would do that right now for one
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty undred dollars.
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 57:45
  Speaker 5: I don't I don't feel that that's true. But maybe
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: maybe some people would. But I've not found that.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: You're in California and we're in Vermont, and I'm telling
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: you right now, and I've been in I've been in
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: Southern states one hundred dollars. I've watched the guy eat
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: a log as shit for one hundred dollars. So yeah,
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: poor people, that people you take it. You're taking advantage
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: of people for money, You're sending them out there. I
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: just I don't understand. There's a huge divide in the
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: United States right now, and I guess I guess that
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: would be.
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: Feeding to it.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, I get it, dude, that's your hustle. But
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: to me, I wouldn't be able to sleep at night.
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: Well, you know, look, I appreciate your opinion. What I
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: will also say is, like, it's interesting that a lot
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: of the talk show hosts and I'm not pulling out
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: you guys specifically because but it's interesting that like I'd
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: be criticized by various talk show hosts who make millions
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: of dollars and who want us to think that they're
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: sincere in their views. Right, but thet black Yeah, you know,
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: so it is a bit of the calling the kettle.
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: I do understand that, like the concept is hard for
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: some people, but I like to say that, like, is
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: it fair that when you see protests, if you're not
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: there's no compensation whatsoever. Right, two groups are going to
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: be very disproportionately represented at protests, well to retirees and
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: college students who don't.
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: Have to work.
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: Right, Those are people who can attend protests and not
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: have to you know, there's no childcare, they don't have
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: to take off work unpaid.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: So I guess my point is I feel that I'm
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: democratizing protests because you know, the janitor we have janitors, right,
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: fast food workers we can we have hourly workers with
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: families who can express their views with through us.
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: Whereas I think that.
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: I think that in not all the cases, is that
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: true for a lot of people. So, I mean, I
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: know that we see it differently, and I really one
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: of the great things about this country is we have
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: we can all have different views, so like, I greatly
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: respect your view, but I think hopefully you can understand
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: my position that a lot of people would never even
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: be able to attend a protest because of their responsibilities,
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: and we've given them those opportunities.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: Like I said, man, I'm not I'm not. I'm not
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: hitting on your hustle. Morally, I think it's unacceptable and
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: that's but that's on you. That's that's something you have
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: to live with. It's not something I would do personally.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: I think it's gaslighting. We're in a country right now
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: that is a tinderbox and this is adding to it.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: I just I respect you, I get your hustle. That's cool, Adam.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: My question is is does the opposition get paid more?
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: Like if it's a crowd that's you know, a seventy
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: thirty or eighty twenty, is the opposition getting getting paid more?
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: And and how do you how are do you feel
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: that these these paid protesters that you're curating for political
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: protests or or or or anything else, because they're not
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: they're locally invested in that community where they're protesting. Is
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: that kind of an inaccurate representation maybe of.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: That's a misunderstanding of our business.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: Again, there may be other people who do this differently,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: but in our business, we source people locally, so.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: So that isn't an issue.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: We try to source as much as possible people who
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: are constituents of that area. So so yeah, I mean
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: again there the thing is, I totally understand that your
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: like gut reaction is paid protesting bad. But I'm just
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: trying to unpack it because there's so much misinformation.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: That's exactly why I'm on this show.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: And I know there's some listeners that are gonna say,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: like there's nothing I can say to convince them that
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: they to like what I do. But ultimately there's so
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: much misinformation that if I can even just robut some
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: of these ideas, like you know that we have anything
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: to do with riots, that that we you know again,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 5: that we like bust people in from you know, you know,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: ten states away, Like that's just not how we work.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: So I just like I wish that that misinformation would
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: stop spreading again, like that's with you thinking in twenty
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: twenty six, because people misinformation just spread so fast. But
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: it's a important to know, and I'm this really vindicates
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: me being on this program to like set the record
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: straight hopefully.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, are there are there other businesses that are busting
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: people in from Afar?
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: I mean, look, there may be other people. Like one
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: of the things that I've said repeatedly is that there
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: are other people who do some version of what I do,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: and I don't know all the details, but that may
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: not be doing it, like, may be doing it in
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: an unscrupulous manner, right, and I you may not agree
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 5: what I do with what I do, And we've talked
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 5: about the ethics of it, and like, I wish I
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: had two more hours to talk about that.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: Honestly, even if I think this is a great eye
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: opener for me, this is a great eye opener for
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: all of our listeners because we were just talking about
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: the whole tinder box where the country is. And so
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: when we turn the TV on and we see massive
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: amounts of people protesting for me right now, now, I'm like,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: you know what, remember what I said earlier, Maybe JD,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: maybe that happens. So now I'm gonna assume every single
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: time I see large amounts of protesters, I'm gonna just
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: assume that they're paid protesters, and I'm not gonna get
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: wound out over it. Anymore.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: Let me leave you.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: Let me leave your audience with two pieces of advice
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: if I can before I have to run. Piece of
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 5: advice one, focus on the content of what people are saying,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 5: rather than the juvenile attitude of trying to say, oh, well,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: this is past dispersions on people's motivations, right, because there's
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: paid protests on right, paid protests on the left, billionaires
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: on the right, billionaires on the left. Right, So there's
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: money behind every movements you like, there's money behind movements
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: you don't like.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: Okay, great, so do you agree with them?
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: So if you see people I mean again and violent
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: protest is like any kind of form of violence or
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: law breaking is bad, whether you agree with it or not. Okay,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: we agree, right, So if then so assuming the protest
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: is peaceful, right, instead of being like talking about crowd size,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: let's talk about Okay, do we like what they're saying
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: or do we not right?
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: Are they making good points or are they not right? Okay?
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 5: So that's piece of advice number one. Piece of advice
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 5: number two, this is some practical advice for your audience
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: if they ever find themselves in a position to have
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: to advocate for themselves.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 5: This could be maybe dealing with an insurance company, right,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 5: that's screwing them over whatever. Number One, determine who actually
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: has the power to make your situation better.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: So screaming at.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 5: The customer service agent on the phone probably won't make
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 5: it better because they're just relaying what someone higher up
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 5: told them. Figure out who has the power to make
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 5: your situation better. And number two, try to figure out
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: what will persuade that person to do what you're asking.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: Them to do.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: So that's just a really good piece of advice in
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 5: any kind of situation where you're trying to advocate. And
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 5: half of what I do is help clients unpack that
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: question with whatever their case is involves.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: So that's some advice for your listeners.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: And I hope it was helpful, and I hope that
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: you can understand a little bit more about what we
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: do and agree or disagree like I love. I always
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 5: welcome these sorts of discussions because I love free speech
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 5: and I love debate.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well you listen, fair enough, man, Yeah, fair enough.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: And and the fact that you have come on this
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: morning and you've given us that is much appreciated. And
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: I thank you, Adam veryanks.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: For coming on, my man, that lot of people's eyes.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: Have a yeah, I think so.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I have a great rest of your day, and
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: I hope we can stay in touch things again.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: Adam, you got it, have a go on.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: That's Adam Swart right there, our guest this morning. His
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: company has received four hunt for percent as of this summer,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: and as he was eluding, it's it's a lot more
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: than that now, but as of this past August, four
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: hundred percent increase in paid protesters.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: That was wild. I'm sorry that I was so juvenile.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: It was pretty It was pretty wild. It was pretty wild.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: Ye.
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  Speaker 2: So, like I said, man, every time I see a
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: crowd of protesters at this point, if you're not gonna
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: tell me who's paid who's not, I'm gonna assume every
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: motherfucker out there is paid.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: This is so these are weird.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: So when you asked me about Minnesota this morning, what
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: did I say? Maybe, yeah, are those crowds real or
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: did the guy pay them people to be there? Or
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: did another company pay them people to be there? So
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: now we can't even trust the fucking protesters. It's ridiculous.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: So guess what, you know what I'm gonna work on
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna work on my relationship with my wife. I'm
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: gonna work on my relationship with my friends. I'm gonna
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: work on all those relationships that I fucking burned over politics,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: over fucking social media. That's coming to an end. I
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: don't give a fuck if I get no more likes anymore.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: There's you're not gonna see political shit on my on
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: my Facebook anymore. What you ain't gonna see it? You
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: just said that, You're right that guy right there. Man,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: I've had a lot of epiphanies in the past few days,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: and that's one of them. Like just getting away from
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: that and just seeing I almost said a really bad word.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not just seeing people like that. That to me,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: morality means way more than a business.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: What's ethical?
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: Ethical yep, So even laws, some laws, like some laws
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: it used to be legal to have slaves, that people
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: that freed slaves were criminals, So not even all laws
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: are ethical. I just that, you know me, that rubbed
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: me the wrong way. I was like, wow, but I
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: kept it cool. I wasn't. Yeah, I thought he was
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: a very smart man, and I think he took advantage
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: of an opportunity and he's gonna make a lot of
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: money doing it. I just don't have the ethics or
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: the morality to do something like that. To make money
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: that way. To me, that's dirty money. That's not you
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: have to sell your soul money like that. You know.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: I heard a quote and this was like, because I
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: was going through a really, really tough time trying to
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: eat all my shit and all that stuff. But I
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: read a quote and it said, the devil doesn't make
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: it hard on people he already owns. So the next
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: time you're going through a hard time, think about that.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: The devil doesn't make it hard on you because he
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: already owns you.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: Great episode this morning. Yeah, man, let's say this very interesting.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: We went we started over here, we went way over here,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: and then we came back over here.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: To my friends, all of my friends that are going
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: through a tough time right now with their relationship. You're
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: not alone. It's this year. It's our age. We have
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: come to an we my friends, my personal friends that
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: are my age, we've come to a point where we
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: start to become very vulnerable to our significant others. Be
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: very careful with that. I'm not saying you can't open
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: up to your wife I'm saying a lot of us,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: our gen X had a lot of childhood trauma. Sure
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: we can't dump that on our partner. Also, just get
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: a professional.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: Think agree, go forward in your life. Try harder to
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: think independently and not allow yourself to be so easily
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: in influenced by others. What you see feed the machine,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: what you see on Facebook, what you read on on
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: social social media, just stop.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: Not real. We just had a guy on here telling
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: you we're paying people to go do this. There was
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: only five people, there were setting another fifty. It's not real, man.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: So every time you see something on TV, you see
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: something you say maybe maybe, but don't dig your don't
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: dig your feet in and be like no, this is
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: the absolute truth. And I'm one of them. I'm like, Nope,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: this is maybe yeah, wow maybe deep stuff man, Yeah, heavy, marvelous.
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