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Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schreger is a production of the
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Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. Welcome everybody. It's now week
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Speaker 1: sixteen of the NFL season. My name is Peter Schreger.
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Speaker 1: I'm the host of this podcast. We call it The
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Speaker 1: Season with Peter Schrager. I'm joined by my producer, Aaron
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Speaker 1: wang Kaufman, who is out in the boondocks of Maine. Aaron,
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at you in a log cabin. I know
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Speaker 1: it's holiday time, but there's like weird lights going on.
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Speaker 1: Are you where? What is your situation right now?
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Speaker 2: So I'm up at my parents' place for the holidays
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Speaker 2: and I am in like my dad's workshop, his wood shop,
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Speaker 2: and we have no power because there were huge storms
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Speaker 2: last night, so we're running off generators. Yeah, I'm I
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Speaker 2: know New York got hit too with a bunch of stuff,
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Speaker 2: and like.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, York dude.
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Speaker 1: First of all, thank you. I love the fact that
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Speaker 1: you still found a way to get on us the
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Speaker 1: generator Thoughts and prayers. Obviously, we always give thoughts in
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Speaker 1: prayers what we do, but this is cool, Aaron. A
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Speaker 1: week ago at this time, we had Shawn Stillado on
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Speaker 1: our podcast, It was the first time a lot of
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Speaker 1: people had ever heard of Shawn Stolato. It was fresh
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Speaker 1: off his Monday Night appearance. What a difference a week makes.
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Speaker 1: In the week that followed our clip of Shawn Stillado
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Speaker 1: being interviewed on the season with Peter Schrager not only
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Speaker 1: ran on The Today Show, then also ran on NBC
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Speaker 1: with Willie Geist on their Sunday show. He did a
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Speaker 1: whole thing on it. But more importantly, Seawan star was
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Speaker 1: like a what would you even call like in the
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Speaker 1: the superva? A super Nova's perfect all right because it burst.
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Speaker 1: Let me explained super nova in that. After doing our show,
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Speaker 1: he did Pat McAfee show, which of course got big love.
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Speaker 1: I think he did part of my interruption with the
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Speaker 1: with with Wilbond and Court. Maybe he didn't do that,
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Speaker 1: Maybe he was on another ESPN show. I'm sorry. Then
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Speaker 1: he did Barstool in Chicago. I saw them taking photos
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Speaker 1: with them, the PMT guys who I love. Then Jimmy
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Speaker 1: Fallon on Friday Night did an entire spoof not on
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Speaker 1: de veto on Stillato, like Stilado got so big that
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Speaker 1: Fallon wasn't even like here's the eight here, here's Tommy,
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Speaker 1: here's this quarterback new York. He's like, no, here's the
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Speaker 1: agent of the quarterback in New York. So then Stellato
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Speaker 1: on Friday, Adam Schefter tweeted out, we knew it from
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Speaker 1: the podcast last week. Stellato is the UH inductee this
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Speaker 1: year and one of many in a very distinguished class
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Speaker 1: to the National Italian American Sports Hall of Fame. Now
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Speaker 1: he goes in into Chicago, go he has a whole
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Speaker 1: induction Friday. The Schefter posts the news. Everyone has their
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Speaker 1: their jokes or their kudos. All that. I think Stillado
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Speaker 1: warmed up. A lot of people warmed up to Stillado
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Speaker 1: over these interviews. They're like, all right, this guy, he's
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Speaker 1: got two clients in the NFL right now. One of
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Speaker 1: them is is time of de Vito. You got to
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Speaker 1: respect it, the Veto and him. It's a family thing.
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Speaker 1: It's great Sunday rolls around and I'll give you a
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Speaker 1: little behind the curtain. I've got to give a I've
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Speaker 1: done millions of interviews where people ask me what's the
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Speaker 1: differentiator between your Good Morning Football work and your Fox
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Speaker 1: NFL kickoff work? So on Good Morning Football Monday to Friday,
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Speaker 1: I look at myself more as host, analyst, entertainer, content insider.
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Speaker 1: So when it comes to draft and like coaching hires,
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Speaker 1: like I'll put on the insider hat first. But day
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Speaker 1: to day we have the services of Ian Rappaport and
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Speaker 1: Tom Pelsaro and Mike Rafo. They're gonna be the ones
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Speaker 1: who we're gonna tell you if Allen Hurts is going
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Speaker 1: through a sickness. They're gonna be the ones to tell
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Speaker 1: you that Shaq Leonard might actually sign with the Eagles
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Speaker 1: or the Cowboys. Like that's there on the weekends, I
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Speaker 1: am insider. That is my role. Inside around Fox, We've
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Speaker 1: got a show and it's Carissa Thompson, the Lovely, amazing CHRISA. Thompson,
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Speaker 1: with Julian Edelman, Charles Woodson, Michael Vick and myself. It
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Speaker 1: is us. It is not the four of them and
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Speaker 1: then Shrieker you know, come in. I am in every
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Speaker 1: segment and my job is to give you little info
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Speaker 1: as we lead up to kickoff. There's a very specific
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Speaker 1: role and I love it, but it's here's the stuff
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Speaker 1: that you don't know yet. And I've done millions of
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Speaker 1: interviews where I explain in that role, my sole purpose
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Speaker 1: is in that a block from seven am, or in
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Speaker 1: this case it's it's eleven am Eastern till about eleven ten.
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Speaker 1: The first six minutes are going to be those guys
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Speaker 1: talking about the headlines and they're going to toss to
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Speaker 1: me and for four minutes, I want to give you
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Speaker 1: the viewers three things you don't know yet. And you've
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Speaker 1: already been watching NFL work for five hours, a new
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Speaker 1: pregame getting ready. We've everve been watching schefter. He's already
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Speaker 1: had three hits. What can I give that no one
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Speaker 1: else has? And sometimes it's like the Kingsbury nugget from
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Speaker 1: last year where I'm like, you know, Kingsbury brought a
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Speaker 1: one way ticket to Thailand and boom, there's my scoop.
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Speaker 1: Another example would be Trevor Lawrence last week in their
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Speaker 1: game against Cleveland. Everyone's hedging their bets. Everyone's riding the fence.
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Speaker 1: He might play, he might not. We're gonna see it's
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Speaker 1: a game time decision. Well an actives are out at
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Speaker 1: eleven thirty. I have no problem, you know, boasting and
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Speaker 1: tooting my horns saying at eleven am, I come on Fox,
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Speaker 1: like Lawrence is gonna play? Why Because someone there in
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Speaker 1: the team told me Lawren's gonna play. He's gonna play,
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Speaker 1: and he played this week. Come out there. I do
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Speaker 1: a little couple, couple easy ones and say, you know,
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Speaker 1: here's the day. It's on Rodgers. I give some nuggets
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Speaker 1: and no one has on Rodgers about how the week
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Speaker 1: went and the conversations that are having. Okay, fine, check
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Speaker 1: the box, all right, next thing, Tyreek, we actually don't
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Speaker 1: know yet. And I know that doesn't sound like news,
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Speaker 1: but let me explain to you this is truly as
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Speaker 1: I'm speaking to you on TV at eleven oh five,
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Speaker 1: he is working out as we speak. He'll give a
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Speaker 1: thumbs up our thumbs down at about seven minutes. Come
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Speaker 1: to me after commercial, which we did, and I said,
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Speaker 1: he's not gonna play. Houston Texans, no Stroud, no Nico.
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Speaker 1: They're up against it, but they love case Keenum. Here's
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Speaker 1: what case Keenum did this week for you. But my scoop,
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Speaker 1: my scoop of the week, if you will, if you
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Speaker 1: want to get into the punts, my scoop de jure.
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Speaker 1: I had shown Stillado's outfit before anyone else had it.
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Speaker 1: I texted Stilado Sunday morning. I said I know this
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Speaker 1: sounds crazy. Send me whatever you're wearing. I want it.
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Speaker 1: He's like, what, send me whatever you're wearing on the
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Speaker 1: field today. I want to be the first one to
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Speaker 1: tweet it out. I want to be the first one
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Speaker 1: to share with the audience. Stillado, the mensch that he is,
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Speaker 1: sends me this beautiful green suit, green pants, Jordan's all
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Speaker 1: laid out and on the green turtle little neck. On
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Speaker 1: the green suit, there is a patch. And the patch
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Speaker 1: is the official patch that you receive once you are
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Speaker 1: an inducted member to the National Italian American Sports Hall
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Speaker 1: of Fame. Now I show this picture, ninety five percent
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Speaker 1: of the audience on Twitter loving it, like yes, this
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Speaker 1: guy's five percent of them hating it, like this is
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Speaker 1: enough for done the craziest thing. And I have not
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Speaker 1: followed up with Sean because I will tell you we'll
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Speaker 1: close the loop on Sean in a bit. Someone told
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Speaker 1: me they don't give out jackets there. What do you mean,
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Speaker 1: no one? They Okay, they give out patches, they don't
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Speaker 1: give out jackets on.
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Speaker 2: So Friday morning he takes the patch and gets a
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Speaker 2: custom made jacket for it.
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Speaker 1: Sounds like there was a sewing on situation. Whether he
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Speaker 1: already had the custom suit or it was a custom
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Speaker 1: suit that was made specifically for the patch, I cannot confirm.
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Speaker 1: I had not heard from Sean, but someone and there
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Speaker 1: are a lot of let me tell you something, the
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Speaker 1: agent community. If you think high school is a caddy community,
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Speaker 1: wait till you talk to some agents. And the love
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Speaker 1: that I've been giving Sean Stillado and the fact that
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Speaker 1: I had Shaun Stellato an agent on this podcast, I
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Speaker 1: have heard from no less than twenty agents calling me
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Speaker 1: a clown for having that guy on the podcast but
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Speaker 1: not highlighting the great work that I do with my clients.
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Speaker 1: And I've got this guy who was undrafted and then Yo,
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Speaker 1: I went to Villanovo, but then from Villanova had to
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Speaker 1: walk onto the CFL and I've been with them three
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Speaker 1: have me on the pocket. Stellato Stillado stirs up a
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Speaker 1: lot of feelings for people. Some people like it, some
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Speaker 1: people don't. I didn't watch the Manning cast. I don't
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Speaker 1: typically watch the Manning cast. I usually have Joe Buck
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Speaker 1: and Troy Aikman and I get really dialed in on
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Speaker 1: the down and distance and all that stuff. Someone texted
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Speaker 1: me that Peyton or Eli or both actually apologize for
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Speaker 1: the way they talked to us, talked down to Tolatto
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Speaker 1: last week, which I appreciate. So then the game starts
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Speaker 1: and the Saints sacks you know, Tommy DeVito seven times.
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Speaker 1: As they're doing it. The Saints players are doing the
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Speaker 1: whole fingers thing, and you could feel that kind of
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Speaker 1: the balloon, you know, the air coming out of and
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Speaker 1: then Darren Rvel takes if we're gonna live in that world?
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Speaker 1: Takes an absolute club to the knees to Stellato and
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Speaker 1: too tweets out the news that that Tommy had agreed
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Speaker 1: upon pizza shop appearance for ten grand, then backed out
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Speaker 1: they needed more after the Packers win. And then it
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Speaker 1: all feels like it's kind of wheezing on air right now.
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Speaker 1: And I'll be honest, I haven't heard from Sean Stillado
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Speaker 1: over the last twenty four hours. I just texted him, Hey,
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Speaker 1: checking in on you, So I'm sure he's dealing with
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Speaker 1: a lot of that. Moreover, the Giants announced they go
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Speaker 1: they're going back to the Veto for Christmas Day, So
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Speaker 1: here was my thing. I know, it feels like it
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Speaker 1: might have hit its peak and now we're on the
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Speaker 1: you know we're going down. I'm not quite done with
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Speaker 1: the tummy de Vito story. If if you take what
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Speaker 1: happened to the Eagles over the last month, three straight losses,
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Speaker 1: firing a defensive coordinator or reassigning a defensive coordinator, world
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Speaker 1: is melting in Philly. And the history that the Eagles
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Speaker 1: and Giants have had of the last few years, where
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Speaker 1: the Eagles who just dominated the Giants in these games.
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Speaker 1: I believe there is still some legs left in this
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Speaker 1: de Vito story. If the Veto goes in to Philly
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Speaker 1: on Christmas beats the Eagles, it's a huge deal. But
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Speaker 1: then they play the Rams who are fighting for a
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Speaker 1: playoff spot on New Year's Eve. If the Vito can
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Speaker 1: do that, then they get the Eagles again the final
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Speaker 1: week of the season. So as we thought that this
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Speaker 1: thing might have died in New Orleans or it might
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Speaker 1: be done and okay it's time for Tyrod Taylor, I
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Speaker 1: am not done with DeVito. I still think there's a
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Speaker 1: little bit more to the de Vito story and there
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Speaker 1: could be a silver lining to all this thing where
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Speaker 1: he plays spoiler now and the Giants have these wild
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Speaker 1: three weeks where the Veto rides off into the sunset
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Speaker 1: into the offseason, gets a legitimate contract from the team.
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Speaker 1: Is the backup going forward, or at the very least
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Speaker 1: can compete for that starting job moving forward. But a wild,
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Speaker 1: wild seven days. You know, last Thursday, Tommy DeVito was
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Speaker 1: on the front cover and the back cover of the
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Speaker 1: New York Post. As much as we love the Davito
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Speaker 1: story and shown Stillano not if we're doing the season
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Speaker 1: with Peter Schrager. That was a last week story. I
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Speaker 1: think this week it's it's teams that are ascending and
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Speaker 1: then teams that are melting down. And it's amazing to
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Speaker 1: me the difference what a couple of weeks make. You know,
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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles have now lost three straight games. They
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Speaker 1: have reassigned their defensive coordinator, Sean de Side to some
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Speaker 1: box upstairs and I don't even know what his title is.
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Speaker 1: They showed him on the ESPN broadcast. But the Eagles
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Speaker 1: now have that Patricia defensive coordinator their offense teams in Nimick.
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Speaker 1: They've lost three straight games. They are suddenly this team
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Speaker 1: in a crosshairs. Meanwhile, the Buffalo Bills, when they lost
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Speaker 1: to the Eagles just three weeks ago, we were ready
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Speaker 1: to write them off. They were done. They were in
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Speaker 1: thirteenth place. I think in the AFC they are now
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Speaker 1: the team that no one wants to see. We kind
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Speaker 1: of laid it out on the podcast couple of weeks ago,
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Speaker 1: and Aaron, as a Bills fan, I said to you,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, they're the team I don't want to face,
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Speaker 1: even after the loss against the Eagles. I'm like, they
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Speaker 1: played well against the Eagles, and they still have a
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Speaker 1: window to do this, and they get the buy at
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Speaker 1: the perfect time, and they just fired Ken Dorsey and
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Speaker 1: let's see Chiefs win, Cowboys win. They play the Chargers
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Speaker 1: this weekend in a game that they cannot lose, they
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Speaker 1: play the Patriots. That would be four straight wins. They'd
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Speaker 1: be knocking on the door. They'd be playing Miami in
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Speaker 1: the final week of the season, which who knows what
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Speaker 1: that could be. I just want to lay this out
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Speaker 1: some of the games coming up in the next few weeks.
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Speaker 1: This weekend, you have a Dolphins Cowboys game on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: Circle that huge, so big. On Monday night, you have
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Speaker 1: Ravens at forty nine Ers huge Circle that all right.
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Speaker 1: The following week, you have Dolphins Ravens circle it. You
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Speaker 1: also have Bengals Chiefs circle it, and then you have
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Speaker 1: the week eighteen stuff where it's just absolute pandemonium as
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Speaker 1: far as into divisional games. I'm just saying this, The
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Speaker 1: eighteen week season is so freaking long and yet the
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Speaker 1: thinnest of margins, and it changes week to week to week.
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Speaker 1: Slap me next year, Aaron. If a team in week
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Speaker 1: eleven or week twelve has a losing record, and I'm like,
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Speaker 1: they're done, they stink whatever, because I've learned it now
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Speaker 1: with a the Bengals, b the Buffalo Bills, and see
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Speaker 1: my dear brother Sean McVay and is Los Angeles Rams.
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Speaker 1: Those are three teams I don't want to see in
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. And I even mentioned the Browns and Flaco.
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Speaker 1: So if we're doing the season, I have to be
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Speaker 1: true to the season. It isn't decided in October. It's
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Speaker 1: not even decided Thanksgiving. The season is decided in these weeks,
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Speaker 1: the final five weeks of the season. And here we
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Speaker 1: are and every game matters, and thirty teams are still alive.
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Speaker 1: Only two have been eliminated, actually three, I think the
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Speaker 1: Jets were eliminated now, but it's that wide open. It
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Speaker 1: is that wild, and that's why we do this thing.
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Speaker 1: Speaking of the schedule, I love our guests today. If
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Speaker 1: you're a football wonk, you love this. If you are
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Speaker 1: curious about where to find your teams and where you're
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Speaker 1: gonna be watching football over the holiday weekend, you're gonna
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Speaker 1: love this. With no further ado, It's one of our
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Speaker 1: favorite guests on the podcast. He comes on time to time,
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Speaker 1: especially during the scheduling part of the season where we
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Speaker 1: get that schedule announcement, usually the week leading up to
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Speaker 1: and then we do a little PostScript afterwards. He's one
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Speaker 1: of my favorite guys who works for the league. He
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Speaker 1: is the VP of scheduling and planning and broadcasting and
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Speaker 1: I messed that all up, but you get the point.
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Speaker 1: He's our guy. Mike Northwell them back to the season
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Speaker 1: with Peter Schreger.
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Speaker 3: Morning, buddy, how are you doing today?
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Speaker 1: I'm good? Is it insulting with some of his botches?
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Speaker 1: Your title like that? Or is it like, oh, we're
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Speaker 1: all friend, let's just keep titles.
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Speaker 3: Are titles are silly? Right? We're all in, all of
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Speaker 3: us on everything, and there are days when my job
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Speaker 3: is nothing but scheduling, and there are days when the
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Speaker 3: job really has nothing to do with scheduling, and we're
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Speaker 3: all about interacting with the clubs or a stadium manager,
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Speaker 3: a field operator, or the officiating department or a million
15:35
Speaker 3: other things going on. So it depends on the day,
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Speaker 3: but basically we're all in this together and we're all
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Speaker 3: just hoping for good outcomes every weekend.
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Speaker 1: I thought this would be a great week to have
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Speaker 1: you because we have this really interesting back to back
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Speaker 1: weeks of unorthodox scheduling where there's games that are on Saturdays,
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Speaker 1: but also you know, Monday night games are still in play,
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Speaker 1: and then we head to the Christmas holiday where, gosh,
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Speaker 1: it's hard to get my head. All right, we do
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Speaker 1: have a Thursday night game as we record this, you
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Speaker 1: have a really good one. Saints at Rams take us
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Speaker 1: through the rest of the Christmas weekend. A lot of
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Speaker 1: listeners are still in their week fifteen brains as they
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Speaker 1: listening on this on Tuesday and Wednesday. What is up
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Speaker 1: ahead and how you guys sort of saw this from
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Speaker 1: a thirty foot thirty thousand foot lens.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you talk about unorthodox windows, If that's
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Speaker 3: the right word for it, I think these unorthodox windows
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Speaker 3: are becoming orthodox. You know, the nine thirty am games
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Speaker 3: at one point, where what are you guys doing? The
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Speaker 3: Thursday night schedule was new to everybody. It wasn't that
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Speaker 3: long ago, right, Most of our games were Sundays at
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Speaker 3: one and four o'clock. So always looking to spread out
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Speaker 3: the quality inventory, always looking to have football on television
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Speaker 3: for our fans to watch, particularly as you get down
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Speaker 3: the stretch here, like you were just I think alluding
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Speaker 3: to it is the most wonderful time of the year, right,
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Speaker 3: All these games matter, you know, best laid plans in May,
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Speaker 3: some things we got right. Some things the crystal ball
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Speaker 3: was a little cloudy, But all these games matter down
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Speaker 3: the stretch. So having an opportunity to kind of spread
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Speaker 3: them out across the weekend instead of all of them
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Speaker 3: concentrated at one o'clock and four o'clock Eastern time on Sunday,
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Speaker 3: where it's still a great experience for the fan to
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Speaker 3: be flipping around and trying to follow everything, whether it's
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Speaker 3: for your fantasy football playoffs or your favorite team making
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Speaker 3: a playoff run. But if we can kind of spread
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Speaker 3: them out a little bit, get them into more national windows,
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Speaker 3: we can almost kind of reintroduce some of these teams
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Speaker 3: to the fans as we head into the playoffs. There
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Speaker 3: are teams obviously, you know Dallas, Kansas City. Those guys
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Speaker 3: are on national television quite a bit. So I don't
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Speaker 3: think fans don't know who the quarterbacks of those teams are.
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Speaker 3: But some of these other teams, as you come down
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Speaker 3: the stretch here, are going to get a chance to
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Speaker 3: play in national windows and almost kind of reintroduce themselves
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Speaker 3: to the fans as we head into January because some
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Speaker 3: of these guys might be making pretty deep playoff runs.
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Speaker 3: So you mentioned it starts on Thursday. This week, Saints
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Speaker 3: rams big one in the NFC. We head into the
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Speaker 3: weekend with Saturday games. Look the Saturdays we play on
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Speaker 3: Saturdays late in the season, right, we always I always have.
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Speaker 1: I remember going back to when I was a kid
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Speaker 1: loving those Saturday games once the college season ended.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's great, Like we said, those are games
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Speaker 3: that are otherwise going to get lost on a Sunday afternoon.
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Speaker 3: Last weekend was a what I would call a traditional
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Speaker 3: Saturday afternoon where we played the NFL Network tripleheader. Got
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Speaker 3: some serendipitous breaks for us to have all six of
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Speaker 3: those teams playoff relevant, all three of those games being
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Speaker 3: pretty impactful. This weekend a little bit different because the
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Speaker 3: Sunday night window is Christmas Eve. NBC approached us and
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Speaker 3: asked if they could look at moving to Saturday, something
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Speaker 3: we were considering, and then the conversations really kind of
18:47
Speaker 3: solidified around Peacock and Peacock joining in the family now
18:51
Speaker 3: as a Wildcard site as a host of a Wildcard game.
18:54
Speaker 3: So wanted to think about with NBC the right way
18:58
Speaker 3: to kind of introduce two fans that this is here
19:01
Speaker 3: to stay. And so what we're doing this Saturday is
19:03
Speaker 3: sort of a dry run for Wildcard weekend. We're going
19:05
Speaker 3: to do Big NBC Saturday afternoon four thirty, and it's
19:08
Speaker 3: gonna lead in drive in promote into a Peacock game
19:12
Speaker 3: on Saturday night, and obviously Wildcard. We're gonna know the
19:15
Speaker 3: six wild Card games. We're gonna dole them out strategically
19:18
Speaker 3: across the weekend and across the partners. But this one
19:21
Speaker 3: was a little tougher. We had to pick a game
19:23
Speaker 3: in May that we thought was gonna make sense for
19:25
Speaker 3: Big NBC on Saturday afternoon, and then it was gonna
19:28
Speaker 3: lead into a Peacock game Saturday night. First time we're
19:32
Speaker 3: having a regular season game on Peacock and looked for that,
19:36
Speaker 3: you know, typical Sunday night football late in the season.
19:39
Speaker 3: Steelers Bengals just sounded right, We're there. It's obviously a
19:43
Speaker 3: little different than what we thought it was gonna look
19:44
Speaker 3: like with a couple of backup quarterbacks, but both teams
19:47
Speaker 3: still squarely in it. So that Steelers Bengals late season,
19:51
Speaker 3: you know, decide playoff positioning feels good. Yeah for NBC,
19:56
Speaker 3: Big NBC Saturday, and then that leads into the Peacock
19:59
Speaker 3: game back in May, kind of took a flyer on
20:01
Speaker 3: a game like Bill's Chargers. Felt like those were two
20:04
Speaker 3: teams that might be there down the stretch, big exciting storylines,
20:08
Speaker 3: quarterbacks and like we said, hopefully playoff implications. Obviously losing
20:12
Speaker 3: justin Herbert Hurtz, but heck, the Bills might be the
20:15
Speaker 3: most exciting team in the league right now. So yeah,
20:19
Speaker 3: Big NBC leading into wildcard I'm sorry, leading into Peacock
20:23
Speaker 3: this Saturday coming up, and then we're gonna run it
20:25
Speaker 3: back on wild Card weekend. Big NBC leading in the Peace.
20:28
Speaker 1: Interesting, So this is all new to me, so good
20:29
Speaker 1: questions here from your man Schreker. The broadcast teams though,
20:34
Speaker 1: I saw we had Melissa Stark on and I've been
20:35
Speaker 1: talking to Tarrico. They're on the Peacock call this week
20:39
Speaker 1: on on the Peacock app and you can find it
20:42
Speaker 1: streaming obviously everywhere on the NBC call. Do you guys
20:44
Speaker 1: know the announcers yet for that Steelers Bengals game?
20:47
Speaker 3: I think it's the Notre Dame crew. Okay, okay, that's
20:51
Speaker 3: on it.
20:52
Speaker 1: It's an NBC question, it's an HONY question, but interesting
20:54
Speaker 1: to note. You're not gonna get your familiar Collins Worth
20:57
Speaker 1: in Tarrico on big NBC. You're gonna get them on Peacock.
21:00
Speaker 1: But when we go to the playoffs, it's also going
21:03
Speaker 1: to be back to back Peacock into NBC the same thing,
21:05
Speaker 1: or we don't know.
21:06
Speaker 3: It's definitely going to be from a scheduling standpoint, it's
21:08
Speaker 3: definitely going to be a big NBC in the afternoon
21:10
Speaker 3: leading into Peacock. I think we're all going to see
21:12
Speaker 3: how this weekend goes before we determine, you know, the
21:15
Speaker 3: right sequencing of the games. Do you want the bigger
21:17
Speaker 3: game in the afternoon on broadcast, leading into driving promoting
21:22
Speaker 3: into the streaming game. Or if you really want to
21:25
Speaker 3: get people excited about the streaming product, do you put
21:27
Speaker 3: the better game there? I mean, that will certainly get
21:30
Speaker 3: a lot of attention. These are the same kind of
21:32
Speaker 3: conversations we have all the time, as you know, trying
21:34
Speaker 3: to find the best use of each of these games. Yeah, look,
21:38
Speaker 3: Turco Rico's a machine. That guy is a legend.
21:43
Speaker 1: Just find a way to do the Peacock game.
21:47
Speaker 3: It's a better question for you if you talk to
21:48
Speaker 3: somebody from NBC. But but I think you know, it
21:50
Speaker 3: just shows NBC's commitment to the Peacock experience that they're
21:55
Speaker 3: going to put the regular Sunday Night crew, including the talent,
21:58
Speaker 3: on the Peacock game.
21:59
Speaker 1: And we've kind of had a dry run with the
22:00
Speaker 1: Amazon and we've had ESPN Plus with the Jaguars Falcons
22:05
Speaker 1: over in London earlier this year, so well, we're kind
22:07
Speaker 1: of getting more and more used to the streaming. You know,
22:10
Speaker 1: for a fact, this is going to be one where
22:11
Speaker 1: everyone is going to be tweeting and asking where the
22:13
Speaker 1: hell do I find this game? It's it's an interesting discussion. Now,
22:19
Speaker 1: with the Bills still having a lot of relevance and
22:22
Speaker 1: the Chargers being down, was there any discussion of flipping
22:24
Speaker 1: those two and saying maybe putting Bill's Chargers on the
22:28
Speaker 1: four thirty window and maybe flopping Steelers Bengals the later one.
22:33
Speaker 3: I'm sure there was. I don't think it was really
22:36
Speaker 3: that serious. I think the idea all along was the
22:40
Speaker 3: you know, call it traditional if you will, like the
22:42
Speaker 3: more traditional late season divisional battle sounds like the broadcast
22:47
Speaker 3: television offering. And then, like you said, we've been dipping
22:51
Speaker 3: our toe into the water on streaming for years. Certainly
22:54
Speaker 3: Amazon has demonstrated the ability to deliver you know, broadcast
22:58
Speaker 3: level numbers on Thursday nights. So the streaming is obviously strategic,
23:02
Speaker 3: obviously important, but also here to stay. I think this
23:05
Speaker 3: is the new normal. And like you said, what used
23:08
Speaker 3: to be non traditional windows, non traditional broadcast partners. I
23:11
Speaker 3: think these things are going to become more traditional down
23:13
Speaker 3: the road. And I think, like we said, Bill's Chargers
23:15
Speaker 3: in May sounded fun, felt fun, still relevant, It's still good.
23:19
Speaker 3: Obviously didn't necessarily see East and Stick in our crystal ball,
23:23
Speaker 3: but you know, the Bills still have everything to play
23:25
Speaker 3: for and playing really good. So I think it's it's
23:28
Speaker 3: still gonna be fun for the fans to find. And
23:30
Speaker 3: you're right. If fans are still wondering at eight o'clock
23:33
Speaker 3: on Saturday night, where's this game, we haven't done a
23:36
Speaker 3: good job promoting it and explaining it's part.
23:38
Speaker 1: Of the reason why we have you on today. Is
23:40
Speaker 1: kind of helped, you know, spread the word.
23:41
Speaker 3: Always happy to do it.
23:49
Speaker 1: So that's Saturday. Then we go to Christmas Eve, which
23:52
Speaker 1: is this real interesting kind of mesh of traditional Sunday
23:57
Speaker 1: but then interesting wrinkle at night. Am I wrong?
24:00
Speaker 3: No? No, you got a one hundred percent right. Once
24:01
Speaker 3: NBC kind of approached us with, hey, is there a
24:04
Speaker 3: way to move off of Sunday night football that we
24:07
Speaker 3: and they've played on Christmas Eve before, they've played on
24:09
Speaker 3: Christmas Day before, like sometimes the calendar just falls where
24:12
Speaker 3: it falls on NFL days. But once we started thinking
24:15
Speaker 3: about moving NBC Big NBC to Saturday to use it
24:19
Speaker 3: as to drive into peacock, we had a Sunday night
24:22
Speaker 3: window where you know, like you said, most Sundays we
24:25
Speaker 3: play on Sunday night after a usual CBS and Fox
24:28
Speaker 3: afternoon slate and that's where an NFL network opportunity comes in.
24:32
Speaker 3: You talk about unorthodox windows. Think about all the different
24:34
Speaker 3: places NFL network's been this year with the nine thirty
24:37
Speaker 3: ams and then the triple header on Saturday. Now we've
24:40
Speaker 3: got Christmas Eve. There's sort of the glue that kind
24:44
Speaker 3: of holds it all together. When there's a window that
24:46
Speaker 3: is appropriate for NFL football on NFL Network, you know,
24:51
Speaker 3: broadcast crew and talent, it sounds like football, it feels
24:55
Speaker 3: like football. Obviously, Patriots Broncos isn't everything. We hope it
24:58
Speaker 3: would be back in May, but the Broncos are still
25:00
Speaker 3: squarely on these things. So you know, lucky enough to
25:03
Speaker 3: have all these windows with at least one, if not
25:05
Speaker 3: two teams still in playoff contention, and then all that
25:09
Speaker 3: will still then leave another triple header for Monday for Christmas.
25:13
Speaker 3: We had phenomenal success last year. I think you and
25:16
Speaker 3: I talked about this in May. We always talked about
25:18
Speaker 3: the incredible viewership and ratings for NFL games. Whatever it is,
25:23
Speaker 3: forty eight of the top fifty, ninety seven of the
25:25
Speaker 3: top one hundred. Maybe the most impressive rating from last
25:28
Speaker 3: year might have been that Broncos Rams Christmas game.
25:30
Speaker 1: We talked about it. It was kind of.
25:32
Speaker 3: Playing out the string and still twenty three twenty five
25:35
Speaker 3: million people watching. So this year the triple header shaping
25:39
Speaker 3: up to be pretty sexy. Really excited about this again.
25:43
Speaker 3: I think we talked about this and may kind of
25:44
Speaker 3: go out to the clubs and ask who'd be interested.
25:48
Speaker 3: How do you think your fans would react to coming
25:49
Speaker 3: out on Christmas? And Kansas City and Philly both kind
25:52
Speaker 3: of put their hands up. San Francisco as well, And
25:54
Speaker 3: then you try to slot in the right opponents, and yeah,
25:57
Speaker 3: you got three games that are pretty relevant for just
26:00
Speaker 3: about everybody and culminating with maybe Game of the Year
26:04
Speaker 3: type stuff. When you're thinking about Ravens Niners on Monday.
26:06
Speaker 1: Night, think about that Ravens at Niners Monday Night, Christmas Day,
26:11
Speaker 1: Christmas evening. But like I'm gonna go backwards. You got
26:16
Speaker 1: Cowboys Dolphins on Sunday, and that's good point. There's a
26:20
Speaker 1: Monster game also in the middle of the sandwich that
26:25
Speaker 1: day is but three days? Was that? So? Is that
26:27
Speaker 1: moving forward or is it just because well, obviously because
26:30
Speaker 1: Christmas falls on a Monday, But are we gonna always
26:32
Speaker 1: do a Christmas Day triple header.
26:33
Speaker 3: And now I think I don't know about always. I mean,
26:36
Speaker 3: I think Christmas is a Wednesday next year, So I'm
26:38
Speaker 3: not sure we're gonna I'm not sure we're gonna get
26:40
Speaker 3: in there. But there's gonna be days when Christmas falls on,
26:44
Speaker 3: you know, normal NFL days quote unquote, like on a
26:46
Speaker 3: Thursday in a couple of years, like Amazon will be
26:49
Speaker 3: there would there be room for another game in the
26:51
Speaker 3: afternoon maybe, But when it falls on like this Saturday, Sunday,
26:55
Speaker 3: Monday kind of in our traditional wheelhouse, Yeah, we've got
26:59
Speaker 3: the inventory if we feel like we can still make
27:01
Speaker 3: decent Sunday afternoon schedules like you hinted at, you know,
27:04
Speaker 3: you take all the best inventory off of Sunday and
27:07
Speaker 3: you put it on Thursday or Saturday or Monday. What's
27:10
Speaker 3: left for Sunday afternoon. That's still the lifeblood of this league.
27:13
Speaker 3: That's still where most fans, you know, watch their home
27:16
Speaker 3: team at one o'clock and then a big doubleheader like
27:18
Speaker 3: you said, a Cowboys Dolphins game this Sunday at four thirty.
27:22
Speaker 3: You don't want to take all the inventory off of
27:24
Speaker 3: Sunday just as you're trying to populate these other windows.
27:26
Speaker 3: You got to leave some good stuff behind still for
27:29
Speaker 3: like you said, the traditional, the orthodox windows. So it's
27:32
Speaker 3: all one big dance, one big sort of accordion, a
27:35
Speaker 3: little more, a little less, a little more flexibility, and
27:38
Speaker 3: just trying to hopefully hit on the right games and
27:41
Speaker 3: the right windows when you finally get to them. Here
27:43
Speaker 3: six months, eight months, seven months after you know, the
27:45
Speaker 3: schedule came out.
27:46
Speaker 1: All right, So you know, I'm fascinated by this stuff.
27:48
Speaker 1: Maybe we're fascinating the broadcasting and scheduling than the actual
27:51
Speaker 1: football themselves. You and I always are talking on this podcast,
27:54
Speaker 1: but I also try to like text you one off
27:56
Speaker 1: questions I have so to explain why you wouldn't get
27:59
Speaker 1: a flex out of Christmas Eve. You know, Broncos Patriots
28:04
Speaker 1: that came to an NFL network. It's not NBC. See,
28:06
Speaker 1: it's not Fox, it's not Amazon's Monday Night Football. NFL
28:10
Speaker 1: network isn't gonna be able to flex out of anything.
28:12
Speaker 1: So we take what we get and it's Patriots Broncos.
28:15
Speaker 1: It's still Belichick on Christmas Eve, and it's still Russell
28:18
Speaker 1: Wilson and Sean Payton, which now becomes a little saucier
28:20
Speaker 1: after what we saw on the sideline last weekend.
28:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, fascinating storylines all around. And we talked, you know,
28:26
Speaker 3: or I talked a week or two ago with Peter King,
28:30
Speaker 3: Jimmy train Or we were talking about flexing out of
28:32
Speaker 3: that Patriots Monday night game, which we did, which was
28:34
Speaker 3: Eagle Seahawks last night. You know, anybody still wanting to
28:38
Speaker 3: follow the Patriots are going to have their opportunity. They
28:40
Speaker 3: were on Thursday night last week. They're on Sunday night
28:42
Speaker 3: this week and still playing hard, right, held the Chargers
28:45
Speaker 3: to you know, six points or whatever it was, went
28:49
Speaker 3: and gave the Chiefs all they could handle. I mean,
28:51
Speaker 3: they're still playing hard, and anybody who doubts that, you know,
28:54
Speaker 3: to tune in to watch they are playing hard. And
28:56
Speaker 3: like you said, Denver, after that start, still in this thing.
29:01
Speaker 3: Definitely an interesting.
29:05
Speaker 1: And it's funny loss I talked about on Good Morning
29:07
Speaker 1: Football today. If they win, they're into playoffs right now.
29:10
Speaker 1: If they had one against Detroit, right they're in. Yeah.
29:12
Speaker 1: The loss knocks them all the way down to eleventh
29:14
Speaker 1: in the AFC and they're four and five in the conference,
29:17
Speaker 1: behind even Pittsburgh.
29:18
Speaker 3: It just shows that's marges how everybody's bunched up so tight.
29:22
Speaker 3: One game makes all the difference, so crazy, but still
29:25
Speaker 3: a chance to get healthy. And just to go back
29:26
Speaker 3: on one thing you said, you know, correct, we don't
29:29
Speaker 3: have flexible scheduling for Sunday Night. But when you say,
29:32
Speaker 3: I know you're half joking, but NFL Network we get
29:34
Speaker 3: what we get. Don't forget you guys have a form
29:36
Speaker 3: of flexible schedule talking.
29:37
Speaker 1: About we don't have.
29:40
Speaker 3: Yes, that is true, but even the TVD stuff on Saturday,
29:44
Speaker 3: you know, like we said, allowed us to pick three
29:45
Speaker 3: of five get three good games on for NFL Network.
29:48
Speaker 3: And I think our fans, our clubs, our stadium operators,
29:51
Speaker 3: and our broadcasters are kind of getting used to this
29:54
Speaker 3: concept of TBD. You have to be a little bit flexible.
29:57
Speaker 3: We all do. Everything's written in pencil, and we're guessing,
29:59
Speaker 3: you know, six months ago, which of these games are
30:01
Speaker 3: going to matter, and then we haven't gotten there yet.
30:04
Speaker 3: But as we look ahead to Week eighteen, literally really
30:06
Speaker 3: every game is TBD, all sixteen games Week eighteen could
30:10
Speaker 3: be Saturday, could be Sunday, could be Sunday Night. I
30:13
Speaker 3: think this TBD flexibility decide when we get closer shorter
30:16
Speaker 3: runway obviously helps us put the right games in the
30:19
Speaker 3: right window.
30:19
Speaker 1: Okay, this is interesting. So we're in week sixteen now,
30:21
Speaker 1: we just went through the slate. Are there Saturday games
30:24
Speaker 1: on Week seventeen?
30:25
Speaker 3: Are there Saturday games in Week seventeen? There are again
30:29
Speaker 3: a little non traditional. We're not playing the NFL Network
30:33
Speaker 3: triple header, Okay, but we're playing ESPN Monday Night Football
30:37
Speaker 3: on Saturday on Saturday Night Monday, January one. Traditional Bowl
30:42
Speaker 3: games they've got I think the two CFP semifinals, y
30:45
Speaker 3: So we're gonna move the Monday Night Football game from
30:49
Speaker 3: Week seventeen to Saturday night December, and again talk about
30:52
Speaker 3: rolling the dice. That's December thirtieth, and that's Detroit Dallas,
30:56
Speaker 3: and so again in May you know, Lions Cowboys. You
31:00
Speaker 3: hoped was going to be pretty relevant down the stretch.
31:02
Speaker 3: It's probably bigger than we could have expected. Game could
31:05
Speaker 3: have two teams playing for the one seed, depending on
31:07
Speaker 3: what happens on Christmas out in San France. So yeah,
31:10
Speaker 3: that'll be a Saturday game. Week seventeen, it'll be Saturday
31:13
Speaker 3: night only, and then a full slate of Sunday including
31:16
Speaker 3: Sunday Night on NBC no NFL game on Monday of seventeen.
31:21
Speaker 3: The good news is that I'll allow us to set
31:22
Speaker 3: the week eighteen schedule Sunday night instead of Monday night,
31:26
Speaker 3: so everybody gets a twenty four hour head start on
31:28
Speaker 3: planning and charters, hotels, tickets, traveling.
31:32
Speaker 1: You call it an accordion. I think it's a beautiful puzzle.
31:35
Speaker 1: Like it's cool to watch it un fould. I love
31:37
Speaker 1: dissecting it. That game, That Saturday night game is a
31:40
Speaker 1: huge one. Lions, Cowboys. Did you say that's on ESPN
31:43
Speaker 1: or ESPN plus? What's the is it streaming? Is it not?
31:45
Speaker 1: I just want to get it all on my head.
31:47
Speaker 3: That one's on ESPN and ABC, that one simulcast on
31:50
Speaker 3: both like they've done for most of the Monday nights
31:53
Speaker 3: this year.
31:55
Speaker 1: It's a monster game, dude.
31:57
Speaker 3: Monster game, Monster game. They've had some big ones. Obviously,
31:59
Speaker 3: Philly case was awesome. I do think Christmas Night is
32:03
Speaker 3: going to be great with balth San Fran and to
32:04
Speaker 3: finish it up with Detroit Dallas, a pretty good run
32:07
Speaker 3: for our friends from.
32:08
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Disney doing flips right now. Okay, not
32:11
Speaker 1: to get too ahead of ourselves. Playoffs, we now have
32:15
Speaker 1: the seven teams in the AFC, the seven teams in
32:17
Speaker 1: the NFC, you have the one seed getting buys, meaning
32:20
Speaker 1: that Wildcard round is an absolute beauty. And I love
32:25
Speaker 1: the fact there's so much football. What are the days
32:27
Speaker 1: in the windows for the playoffs this year?
32:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, A couple of years ago when we expanded the
32:31
Speaker 3: playoffs and expanded the regular season, we locked into a
32:34
Speaker 3: wild card weekend of two games on Saturday four point
32:39
Speaker 3: thirty and eight, three games on Sunday one o'clock, four thirty,
32:42
Speaker 3: eight o'clock, the usual, and then a Monday night wild
32:45
Speaker 3: card game. We've had a couple of good ones there.
32:47
Speaker 3: It was Rams Cardinals. I think last year in the
32:51
Speaker 3: Dallas Tampa last year could be heading straight back for
32:54
Speaker 3: Dallas Tampa. No, maybe let's see a philiate. Also, thank you.
32:58
Speaker 3: I think you even texted me, right, I think you
32:59
Speaker 3: texted me we might be heading for Rams Lions.
33:04
Speaker 1: Jared Matthew Stafford.
33:06
Speaker 3: Come on, how interesting would that be on wildcard weekend?
33:09
Speaker 3: And plus you think about some of these brands. Now,
33:12
Speaker 3: you know, with only one buy as you mentioned, you
33:14
Speaker 3: know you're probably looking at a wild card weekend that's
33:16
Speaker 3: going to include the Cowboys the Eagles, the Chiefs. I mean,
33:20
Speaker 3: these are gonna be really good hopefully, and a lot
33:25
Speaker 3: of team, a lot of fan interest. So as you
33:27
Speaker 3: dole those out across the weekend, like we talked about,
33:30
Speaker 3: we'll learn a little bit from NBC this weekend, coming
33:33
Speaker 3: up with Big NBC in the afternoon leading into Peacock.
33:35
Speaker 3: We'll do that again Wildcard Saturday.
33:37
Speaker 1: Try to sequence so no matter what, there's no games
33:39
Speaker 1: on CBS, NBC or Fox wild Card Saturday.
33:43
Speaker 3: Not on Saturday, it's Big NBC and Peacock, Okay. Then
33:46
Speaker 3: on Sunday is gonna be CBS, Fox, and NBC in
33:50
Speaker 3: some order usual Sunday if you will, CBS, Fox, and NBC,
33:53
Speaker 3: and then of course the ESPN, ABC has the Monday
33:56
Speaker 3: wild Card. And then as you project ahead to Divisional,
33:59
Speaker 3: everybody's got one. CBS has one, Fox has one, NBC
34:03
Speaker 3: has won, and for the first time, ESPN and ABC
34:05
Speaker 3: are going to join the divisional weekends.
34:07
Speaker 1: And it'll be two games on Saturday, two games.
34:09
Speaker 3: To Saturday, two Sunday on Saturday, three and six thirty
34:14
Speaker 3: on Sunday, and then come back Championship Sunday.
34:17
Speaker 1: We already know Championships Sunday, CBS has the early game.
34:21
Speaker 1: The AFC, Fox says, the NFC they alternate every year, So.
34:25
Speaker 3: You guys alternate every year, yep, and then Pro Bowl
34:28
Speaker 3: games and then Super Bowl in Vegas.
34:30
Speaker 1: Dude, this is good.
34:32
Speaker 3: The blur man. It went fast this season flew by.
34:35
Speaker 1: It did. But like you know, here we are before
34:38
Speaker 1: the season, You're like, all right, we're gonna just put
34:41
Speaker 1: this out out there. We'll help. I gotta say, Detroit,
34:43
Speaker 1: Kansas City, a lot of people rolled their eyes, like,
34:45
Speaker 1: awesome game, right, Uh, it was good, and the Detroit
34:49
Speaker 1: Lions kind of made a statement early on Thanksgiving Day.
34:52
Speaker 1: Games were great, like they all they all were relevant
34:56
Speaker 1: teams and delivered. And then we had the big upset
34:58
Speaker 1: in the early window and then this we're in for
35:02
Speaker 1: a stretch run right now, where I thought weren't for
35:03
Speaker 1: a great stretch right It's unbelievable.
35:05
Speaker 3: This is gonna be on. All the games are gonna matter.
35:08
Speaker 3: Look to your point earlier about having everybody bunched up
35:11
Speaker 3: the way they are. You know, there's a couple of really, really,
35:14
Speaker 3: really good teams, and there's obviously a couple of teams
35:16
Speaker 3: that have looking ahead to next year everybody else is
35:19
Speaker 3: right there in the middle, right twenty twenty two teams
35:21
Speaker 3: throw a blanket over them. Every weekends like a playoff game.
35:24
Speaker 3: And like you said, you could be the five seed
35:26
Speaker 3: one day and the eleven the next. Look at Philly
35:28
Speaker 3: and Dallas flipping around between the two and the five.
35:31
Speaker 3: I mean, every game really matters, really impactful, and having
35:35
Speaker 3: more of them in windows where fans can watch them
35:38
Speaker 3: think is a good thing. Right. If they're all massed
35:39
Speaker 3: up on a Sunday at one o'clock, it's just hard
35:42
Speaker 3: to follow them all. It's hard to give them all
35:43
Speaker 3: the exposure they deserve. So kind of picking out the
35:46
Speaker 3: ones that we thought in may might be relevant, putting
35:49
Speaker 3: them in national windows. You know, it didn't bat one hundred,
35:51
Speaker 3: but a lot of good ones still to come.
35:53
Speaker 1: And this might be more of a Hans or Brian
35:56
Speaker 1: Rolapp question, but this was the first year of the
35:58
Speaker 1: Sunday Ticket on YouTube. There's been this universal praise for it.
36:03
Speaker 1: I fly on Jet Blue back from LA to New York.
36:05
Speaker 1: If you want to get into it, and they have
36:08
Speaker 1: Sunday Ticket and they have red Zone, I don't miss
36:10
Speaker 1: an action at all. How has that partnership been in
36:12
Speaker 1: year one because from the viewer side and the fan
36:14
Speaker 1: engagement side, I think it's been pretty flawless. Yeah.
36:17
Speaker 3: Look, which at the end of the day is what
36:18
Speaker 3: matters most, Right, It's all about the fans who want
36:21
Speaker 3: to pay for this product being able to experience it
36:24
Speaker 3: the way they want. I've heard, you know, every day
36:27
Speaker 3: we talk about the tiling where they let you kind
36:30
Speaker 3: of watch whatever it is for or eight games at
36:32
Speaker 3: a time. I know some folks are still wanting to
36:34
Speaker 3: set their own tiles, but that's probably coming someday. But yeah,
36:37
Speaker 3: to the best of my knowledge, you know, they're learning
36:40
Speaker 3: as they go. It's been fifteen weeks down and still
36:43
Speaker 3: a couple more big ones to go. But for the
36:44
Speaker 3: most part, it sounds like technologically for anybody who was
36:47
Speaker 3: concerned about, you know, them being able to handle the
36:49
Speaker 3: traffic and handle the product, I haven't really heard a
36:53
Speaker 3: lot of you know, buffering issues or unable to find
36:55
Speaker 3: my game or any of that kind of stuff. And
36:57
Speaker 3: you know, like we started this conversation, you know, the streamers,
37:01
Speaker 3: the digital partners, they're here to stay there. They're nothing new,
37:05
Speaker 3: They're not going away, and they're going to become you know,
37:09
Speaker 3: viable homes for big NFL games. Are we going to
37:12
Speaker 3: put a you know, an Eagles Chiefs. Are we gonna
37:15
Speaker 3: put a really big one like that on a streaming
37:17
Speaker 3: platform and just kind of test where the ceiling is?
37:21
Speaker 1: Yeah?
37:21
Speaker 3: Probably at some point. I mean, we talked a little
37:23
Speaker 3: bit about NFL network, right, you talked about all those
37:25
Speaker 3: nine thirty am games. You know, that Miami Kansas City
37:28
Speaker 3: game the best games of the year and really kind
37:32
Speaker 3: of showed you that there is broadcast level viewership out
37:35
Speaker 3: there for streaming partners, and that one's nine thirty in
37:38
Speaker 3: the morning and we still got to ten eleven million
37:40
Speaker 3: get hut factor in the local Yeah, by far. I
37:44
Speaker 3: think the most watched NFL nine thirty AM game not
37:48
Speaker 3: the most watched NFL network game, because you guys have
37:50
Speaker 3: you know, you guys have wandered into Christmas Day here
37:52
Speaker 3: and there and every now and then, you know, you
37:54
Speaker 3: stumble into something big and fun and sexy on a
37:57
Speaker 3: big window like that. So there's been bigger NFL network games,
38:01
Speaker 3: but there haven't been bigger nine thirty a m. Eastern
38:03
Speaker 3: time games. So that kind of shows you, you know,
38:06
Speaker 3: for years it was, oh, let's make sure we don't
38:07
Speaker 3: deploy our best assets in that window because maybe you're
38:10
Speaker 3: not getting maximum viewership. I'm not sure that's true anymore. Again,
38:13
Speaker 3: you're approaching broadcast level viewership for streaming services for the NFL.
38:20
Speaker 3: That's something none of us probably could have seen coming
38:23
Speaker 3: five years ago. And who knows what the world's going
38:25
Speaker 3: to look like five years from now.
38:26
Speaker 1: Right, there's a lot of hand ringing and a lot
38:28
Speaker 1: of debate, and it made for good offseason. You know,
38:31
Speaker 1: angry calls on radio about Amazon being able to flex
38:35
Speaker 1: their Thursday night games. You guys did not do that
38:38
Speaker 1: this year. He didn't exercise it that year. We thought
38:40
Speaker 1: there was going to be some difficulties with a twenty
38:42
Speaker 1: eight day window to actually decide how to do it.
38:46
Speaker 1: Brown's Jets is coming up. Was there any discussion? Now
38:49
Speaker 1: you look at this, I know that Jets aren't aren't there,
38:51
Speaker 1: But maybe Rogers and the Browns are a story.
38:54
Speaker 3: Talk to your boy man, have Aaron play half? Why not, right?
38:57
Speaker 3: Show us? He show us, dude, what everybody's whistled for,
39:00
Speaker 3: what everybody whistled for. Next year him may look even
39:04
Speaker 3: if Rogers doesn't play, Even if if you know Zach
39:07
Speaker 3: doesn't play. You know, when we talk about primetime windows,
39:12
Speaker 3: you know, we always said if this game is truly,
39:15
Speaker 3: you know, no longer relevant from a playoffs standpoint, that's
39:17
Speaker 3: really where you start thinking about flexible scheduling. If one,
39:20
Speaker 3: hopefully both teams are still playing for something, you know,
39:23
Speaker 3: that game still feels like it's worthy of a national window.
39:25
Speaker 3: And for those who haven't watched Joe Flacco quarterback to
39:28
Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns this last month, the guy looks like he
39:31
Speaker 3: looked when he was taking the Ravens to Super Bowls.
39:33
Speaker 3: He looks the same, you know, big, tall, strong in
39:36
Speaker 3: the pocket, throwing dimes. And Cleveland's been good all year.
39:40
Speaker 3: They really have think of what they've been through with
39:41
Speaker 3: all their injuries.
39:43
Speaker 1: Forty nine ers in the rain, like they've done it.
39:45
Speaker 3: They are with aj Walker, Yeah, they are legit. Miles
39:48
Speaker 3: Garrett might be, you know, best player in the league.
39:50
Speaker 3: I don't know, but we'll say anyway, to your point,
39:53
Speaker 3: that game is still gonna matter on Thursday. And here
39:56
Speaker 3: we were just talking a minute ago about Hey, every weekend,
39:59
Speaker 3: the league turns upside down. So to make a flexible
40:01
Speaker 3: scheduling decision four weeks out is tough it's always going
40:05
Speaker 3: to be a challenge, and I I think Roger Commissioner
40:08
Speaker 3: Goodell excuse me, was pretty clear with ownership when we
40:10
Speaker 3: got the vote. This is a you know, only in
40:14
Speaker 3: case of emergency. We flexed Sunday nights once or twice
40:17
Speaker 3: a year. We've now flexed a Monday night Thursday nights.
40:20
Speaker 3: I think the bars is significantly higher in part because of,
40:24
Speaker 3: you know, the days that you have to adjust for everybody.
40:26
Speaker 3: It's not just one day or a couple hours on
40:27
Speaker 3: a Sunday, but also it's guessing four weeks from now,
40:31
Speaker 3: which of these games are gonna be relevant. There's as
40:34
Speaker 3: good a chances as any that you know, Jet's Cleveland
40:37
Speaker 3: is as good as we're gonna get. So that didn't
40:40
Speaker 3: rise to the level of needing the flex. Cleveland's been
40:42
Speaker 3: playing really well. They deserve the national window. And like
40:45
Speaker 3: you said, this Ram Saints game, maybe earlier in the
40:47
Speaker 3: season was one that people were looking at like, hey,
40:49
Speaker 3: that might be trouble, and now it's pretty damn important
40:52
Speaker 3: in the NFC Wild Chart chase. Not quite an elimination game,
40:54
Speaker 3: but the winner of that game is in a great spot.
40:57
Speaker 1: That one was always going to be hard. And this
40:58
Speaker 1: is really in the weeds because you already had committed
41:01
Speaker 1: LA was playing at home Saturday night with the Chargers,
41:04
Speaker 1: so if you were to flex that Rams game to Sunday,
41:07
Speaker 1: it would be literally hours after. But that's just me
41:09
Speaker 1: being one of the point zero zero one percent who
41:12
Speaker 1: looks at schedules.
41:14
Speaker 3: Also the point zero zero one percent who are worried
41:17
Speaker 3: about things like that. But the Chargers and Rams play
41:21
Speaker 3: on consecutive days that Jets and Giants play on consecutive days.
41:25
Speaker 3: We knew full well that you know, a flex that week.
41:29
Speaker 3: Having the Chargers not at home on Sunday at least
41:31
Speaker 3: allowed for the possibility of the Rams flex to Sunday
41:34
Speaker 3: if we wanted to. But again, four weeks ago when
41:37
Speaker 3: we had to make the decision, we were hopeful that
41:39
Speaker 3: Saints Rams was still gonna be pretty impactful, probably more
41:42
Speaker 3: than we even could have thought. I mean, the Rams
41:44
Speaker 3: have been playing great, winning a lot of games. They
41:45
Speaker 3: gave Baltimore all he can handle in overtime. They're playing
41:49
Speaker 3: as well as anybody right now, did.
41:51
Speaker 1: You guys flex anything beyond last night's Monday night game?
41:53
Speaker 1: Has ever been any other flexes this season?
41:55
Speaker 3: We've done some stuff on Sunday afternoons that's not technically.
41:58
Speaker 1: The Sunday trimetime or Monday.
42:00
Speaker 3: We haven't flexed a Sunday night game yet. We did
42:02
Speaker 3: one Monday night, haven't flexed a Thursday. It would be
42:05
Speaker 3: ironic in a season with all the uncertainty, all the
42:08
Speaker 3: quarterback injuries, all the upheaval, to only have one primetime
42:12
Speaker 3: flex this year. But again, I think that's indicative of
42:15
Speaker 3: you know where the bar is. We're not flexing to
42:17
Speaker 3: try to get an extra twenty five thousand or fifty
42:19
Speaker 3: thousand viewers. We're not flexing to get out of a
42:22
Speaker 3: game with playoff implications into a game with better or
42:25
Speaker 3: more or bigger playoff implications. It's about, here's a game
42:28
Speaker 3: in the primetime window that was put here in May,
42:30
Speaker 3: and by the time we're going to get there, both
42:32
Speaker 3: teams are eliminated from playoff contention. That's the one that
42:35
Speaker 3: we're not doing anybody any favors by leaving it in prime.
42:38
Speaker 3: It's not good for the home fans, it's not good
42:40
Speaker 3: for those two teams, certainly not good for the television
42:42
Speaker 3: viewers are broadcast partners. So I haven't really had that
42:46
Speaker 3: one yet. Where the primetime game is quote unquote irrelevant
42:50
Speaker 3: and I'm not even sure there is such a thing
42:51
Speaker 3: in this league. Every game matters while everybody's playing for something,
42:56
Speaker 3: and it's going to be a fun stretch run down here.
42:58
Speaker 1: Two part question. Now we're rapping soon, but two part question.
43:01
Speaker 1: Last night, as Drew Locke with less than two minutes
43:04
Speaker 1: left is leading the Seahawks on a ninety two yard
43:07
Speaker 1: incredible game winning drive to knock off the Eagles, Well,
43:10
Speaker 1: a day earlier Chiefs Patriots is kind of a dud
43:12
Speaker 1: of a game. Do you smoke a cigar kick back
43:16
Speaker 1: and say, correct, flex we did it, like we nailed it?
43:19
Speaker 1: Is that the thing like do you look for a
43:21
Speaker 1: pat in the back because you're not going to get one.
43:22
Speaker 1: But that was the right move and a lot of
43:24
Speaker 1: people were like, how could you move my homes out
43:26
Speaker 1: of primetime? Well, the better game was actually Monday night.
43:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not in the business of patting ourselves on
43:31
Speaker 3: the back. We're in the business of looking ahead and
43:33
Speaker 3: trying to figure out what we could do right, what
43:35
Speaker 3: we could do better. Look, the game was competitive. That
43:39
Speaker 3: was great coming down to the wire or any fourth
43:41
Speaker 3: quarter game within one scorer is all any of us
43:43
Speaker 3: can ask for as viewers, and that was a pretty
43:46
Speaker 3: exciting ending. I'm not sure the answer to was the
43:49
Speaker 3: Monday night flex successful will be available until we really
43:54
Speaker 3: do a little more accounting with the Chiefs, the Patriots,
43:59
Speaker 3: the Eagles, the Seahawks. What was it like to change
44:03
Speaker 3: like you did? How was fan reaction? Was the building
44:06
Speaker 3: still full? Where there are a lot of tickets on
44:08
Speaker 3: the secondary market? You know, don't want to be reckless
44:13
Speaker 3: and haphazard with these flexes. But you know, on the
44:16
Speaker 3: one hand, like you said, I think we got the
44:17
Speaker 3: better game into the bigger window season, but there's a
44:22
Speaker 3: lot more that comes into it. I'm not sure we're done,
44:24
Speaker 3: you know, doing all the calculously until we talked to
44:27
Speaker 3: the Patriots, talked to the Seahawks. Look, last night looked full,
44:32
Speaker 3: sounded loud even in bad weather. That was part of
44:35
Speaker 3: what we were thinking, though, you know, just the same
44:38
Speaker 3: you play a Seahawks game on Tuesday at noon and
44:40
Speaker 3: I assume the place is going to be full and loud.
44:42
Speaker 3: So that all goes into what we're thinking. And again,
44:45
Speaker 3: you know, it's not just about the Monday night flex,
44:48
Speaker 3: but as you go back to the Sunday. That Chief's
44:51
Speaker 3: Patriots game ended up going into Sunday at one o'clock,
44:54
Speaker 3: which was a big game for Fox. They don't get
44:57
Speaker 3: a lot of Chiefs games obviously from the AFC, so
44:59
Speaker 3: that game still went to seventy percent of the country.
45:01
Speaker 3: It was a lead into Dallas Buffalo, which wasn't as
45:04
Speaker 3: competitive as we'd hope, but still probably got like family
45:07
Speaker 3: people watching. And then you still got the green Bay
45:09
Speaker 3: Tampa game sliding over to CBS. Some more fans could
45:12
Speaker 3: watch that one. And how about Baker Mayfield going in
45:14
Speaker 3: the Lambo and putting up a one fifty eight. They're
45:17
Speaker 3: gonna be right there down the stretch as well. So
45:20
Speaker 3: that one week worked out really well for everybody, but
45:22
Speaker 3: not done until we really talked to the Patriots and
45:24
Speaker 3: the Seahawks and find out how the fans are.
45:26
Speaker 1: Isn't it funny you just wrote usn't aside like Tampa
45:29
Speaker 1: green Bay, no one circled that game might have been
45:30
Speaker 1: the game of the week. Now you have Tampa Jacksonville
45:32
Speaker 1: this weekend, and it's like huge implications. If you were
45:35
Speaker 1: going back and drawing up the schedule and may you
45:36
Speaker 1: might you know, be kind and say it might have
45:39
Speaker 1: a major game Tampa Jacksonville Week sixteen, and it's like,
45:43
Speaker 1: that's why you can't write this. It's not scripted. You
45:45
Speaker 1: can't write this stuff.
45:47
Speaker 3: Nobody knows anything in this league. But like we said,
45:50
Speaker 3: I think this is the new normal, right. All the
45:51
Speaker 3: games are close, which is why, unfortunately sometimes the officiating
45:55
Speaker 3: gets a little more scrutiny because one call feels like
45:58
Speaker 3: can really impact the game. Every game's close, every team's good,
46:02
Speaker 3: and nobody knows anything. It's the beauty of the sport.
46:05
Speaker 3: So anytime you turn on the television, your bound to
46:07
Speaker 3: see something you haven't seen before, haven't seen Drew Locke
46:09
Speaker 3: lead a game winning drive.
46:11
Speaker 1: In what three years, thousand days?
46:12
Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw it, but his postgame
46:14
Speaker 3: interview with Lisa Assaults.
46:15
Speaker 1: Was amazing and Lisa did a great job on it.
46:18
Speaker 3: She did, she did, She was one quick question.
46:20
Speaker 1: She waited, listened, which is good. The other part to
46:25
Speaker 1: that question is we had a dog of a Bears
46:27
Speaker 1: Chargers game on Sunday Night earlier this season that was
46:30
Speaker 1: you know, it felt like a stadium was mostly Bears fans.
46:33
Speaker 1: Tyson pagent wins or did he win. I don't even
46:36
Speaker 1: know who won. It was in hindsight now he did not.
46:38
Speaker 1: He did not win. The Chargers won. Do you guys,
46:42
Speaker 1: I know you're vulnerable, and you guys say we make
46:43
Speaker 1: mistakes sometimes. Do you guys look at that and say, Okay,
46:45
Speaker 1: that was when we should have or it's not like that.
46:48
Speaker 1: It's just like, hey, move on, We're not going to
46:49
Speaker 1: beat ourselves up week to week as far as flexing goes.
46:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, don't forget that was week eight.
46:53
Speaker 1: Right, nobody a part getting interview here?
46:57
Speaker 3: No, I understand. Look when I say it was week eight,
46:59
Speaker 3: I don't mean like, hey, that was eight weeks ago.
47:01
Speaker 3: While you bring it up, I mean like it was
47:02
Speaker 3: week eight, Like do you really need to flex and
47:04
Speaker 3: we eight? Is anybody dead and buried? You think about
47:07
Speaker 3: the Lions last year with their start, You think about
47:09
Speaker 3: the Broncos this year, right, I think the Broncos were
47:12
Speaker 3: Sunday Night a week or two later after Bears Chargers.
47:15
Speaker 3: You know again, flexes for when the game has truly
47:19
Speaker 3: no longer as playoff implications. Look, Tyson bagent became a
47:23
Speaker 3: story there for a minute, and it was kind of
47:24
Speaker 3: fun and interesting. That's been one of the weird things
47:27
Speaker 3: about this season, right, some of these backup quarterbacks, like
47:29
Speaker 3: Tommy d here in New York, like, some of these
47:32
Speaker 3: guys kind of either you know, us being introduced to
47:35
Speaker 3: them for a first time, or us remembering, Oh I
47:36
Speaker 3: knew that guy from college. It's been fun to see
47:40
Speaker 3: these guys. Come on. Yeah, I don't know that any
47:42
Speaker 3: primetime window is rooting for, you know, backup quarterbacks. And
47:46
Speaker 3: again in May, Justin Fields and Justin Herbert, what do
47:53
Speaker 3: any of us know? And then when you as soon
47:55
Speaker 3: as you're right off the Bears, look at what they're
47:56
Speaker 3: doing down the stretch here, playing hard and playing as
47:58
Speaker 3: well the lion anybody in the NFC. They're gonna have
48:01
Speaker 3: an impact on the wildcard race too. They're not even
48:02
Speaker 3: out of it yet. So yeah, do we look back
48:05
Speaker 3: on every decision we made as a scheduling team. Absolutely? Yes.
48:10
Speaker 3: Is there time really to beat yourself up about it?
48:12
Speaker 2: No?
48:13
Speaker 3: But does a factor in your thinking going forward? Maybe
48:16
Speaker 3: a little bit. You know, if NBC, you know, kind
48:18
Speaker 3: of has their hand out and say, hey, don't forget
48:21
Speaker 3: you know, we we have Bears Chargers, we'd sure like
48:23
Speaker 3: that Cowboys game on wildcard weekend or whatever. Those are
48:26
Speaker 3: the kind of conversations that we're gonna have over the
48:27
Speaker 3: next couple of weeks.
48:28
Speaker 1: So interesting, like that's one of them they put in
48:30
Speaker 1: their back pocket and say, we ate it. We did that,
48:32
Speaker 1: we we you know. And then hey, Cowboys play the
48:35
Speaker 1: Lions in the Divisional. We'd love to have that one
48:37
Speaker 1: as opposed to Tampa versus San Francisco. I get it.
48:40
Speaker 1: I think that's interesting. How do you feed all those
48:43
Speaker 1: different mouths because I feel like everyone's got like the Fox,
48:48
Speaker 1: the Fox A crew. I'm biased to Fox there, my guys.
48:50
Speaker 1: They have had so many blowouts this season, yep. And
48:53
Speaker 1: it's just it's by chance. It's just what it is.
48:56
Speaker 1: These games are good matchups, and then you get out
48:58
Speaker 1: there and it's San Francisco Dallas and it's well, that
49:00
Speaker 1: might have been on MBC, but you know what I mean,
49:02
Speaker 1: it's just one after another. Do you start getting stuff
49:06
Speaker 1: from the networks now saying, hey, playoffs, we want Cowboys,
49:09
Speaker 1: or hey we would love to have a little Chiefs
49:12
Speaker 1: action if there's a wildcard r.
49:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, love, Like we talked about, We're heading for a
49:15
Speaker 3: wild card weekend with some pretty pretty big brands. And
49:18
Speaker 3: some pretty big stars. So I think we're going to
49:20
Speaker 3: have would.
49:21
Speaker 1: You put AFC on Fox now that it's kind of
49:24
Speaker 1: wide open, and we did that a couple of years ago, right.
49:26
Speaker 3: We do in a year where they've got multiple wild
49:29
Speaker 3: card games. The way it works for CBS and Fox
49:31
Speaker 3: is if you only have one in a weekend, it's
49:33
Speaker 3: going to be in your conference. If you have two
49:35
Speaker 3: in a weekend, one in your conference, the other one
49:37
Speaker 3: could be the opposite. So for this particular season, with
49:40
Speaker 3: CBS and Fox each only having one on Sunday after,
49:43
Speaker 3: they're going to be conference affiliated. Same thing on divisional weekend.
49:46
Speaker 3: So we're not going to get the Chiefs game over
49:49
Speaker 3: to Fox, but they're going to end up with a
49:51
Speaker 3: really good game. Just look at the NFC wildcard picture.
49:55
Speaker 3: You look at the division winners. Now, you know, like
49:57
Speaker 3: you said, everybody one through twelve is a great story
50:00
Speaker 3: in the NFC. So we're going to end up with
50:02
Speaker 3: some you know, pretty juicy apples I think on wildcard weekend,
50:05
Speaker 3: and it it becomes easier to dole them out to
50:08
Speaker 3: partners when they're all great. If you have a situation
50:11
Speaker 3: where you're like, oh, that's the one that nobody wants
50:13
Speaker 3: or that's the one that everybody wants, and if they
50:15
Speaker 3: don't get it, they're disappointed. That one's a little tougher.
50:18
Speaker 1: You know.
50:18
Speaker 3: Moving Dallas Tampa on Monday Night last year was a
50:21
Speaker 3: pretty big testament to the power of Monday night football,
50:25
Speaker 3: to the strength of the simulcast ESPN and ABC together
50:28
Speaker 3: and it did what thirty something million. It did a
50:30
Speaker 3: monster number. Couldn't feel bad about it, But if you
50:34
Speaker 3: were the other partners, you were like, oh, well, I
50:36
Speaker 3: didn't get Dallas against Tom Brady. Whatever else you give
50:39
Speaker 3: me isn't going to be good enough. That's frustrating and disappointing.
50:42
Speaker 3: And we still had some great games on Wildcard weekend.
50:46
Speaker 3: So look, more juicy apples means more happy partners. But
50:51
Speaker 3: it's never about you know, just this weekend or just
50:54
Speaker 3: you O US one or just this season. Right, these
50:56
Speaker 3: are ten year broadcast deals. The goal here is for
50:59
Speaker 3: everybody to be strong and healthy, you know, seven, eight, nine,
51:04
Speaker 3: ten years from now, not just this season. And so
51:07
Speaker 3: it moves around. Sometimes you catch lightning in a bottle.
51:10
Speaker 3: This year seems like most of our partners are are
51:12
Speaker 3: up year over year, which is a great position. To
51:14
Speaker 3: be in for the schedule makers. Anybody who's down a
51:16
Speaker 3: little bit, Hopefully they can make it up down the
51:18
Speaker 3: stretch here and maybe they get you know, a little
51:22
Speaker 3: you know, less of a lumpic coal in their Christmas
51:24
Speaker 3: stocking when we get to playoffs.
51:25
Speaker 1: And I'll say, you know, that whole thing about putting
51:27
Speaker 1: the Cowboys on Monday Night, Bucket Akmen are really good
51:30
Speaker 1: and that production crew is really good. It's it's it's
51:33
Speaker 1: a great product. So it doesn't feel like it's, oh,
51:36
Speaker 1: this is cable TV. No, it's on ABC, like it's
51:39
Speaker 1: it's simulcasted now on It doesn't feel like it's less
51:43
Speaker 1: than by any means. And truthfully, you know what they
51:47
Speaker 1: did on that Monday night game with Eagles and Jeeves,
51:49
Speaker 1: sending their whole pregame crew to Arrowhead and like having
51:52
Speaker 1: it all felt like an event. Fox does that every week,
51:55
Speaker 1: CBS does that every week, NBC does it every week. ESPN.
51:58
Speaker 1: In the last couple of years with Bucket Aikman, it
52:00
Speaker 1: feels like they they're they're fine getting any big game
52:03
Speaker 1: as well.
52:03
Speaker 3: Look, they've made a commitment right to their talent, to
52:06
Speaker 3: their broadcast crews and to you know, when they roll
52:09
Speaker 3: out the circus. They roll out the circus, right. They
52:12
Speaker 3: bring radio, they bring internet, they bring a day of television.
52:15
Speaker 3: We talk about this all the time. When you've got
52:17
Speaker 3: like a big storyline game and you really want a
52:20
Speaker 3: lot of attention to it, you know, you put it
52:22
Speaker 3: on a Sunday afternoon at one o'clock, it's gonna get
52:24
Speaker 3: lost a little bit. You put it Sunday at four thirty.
52:26
Speaker 3: That's probably our most watched window. We're still getting twenty
52:29
Speaker 3: five twenty eight million people there, but there's other games
52:31
Speaker 3: going on and you can't really lead into it because
52:33
Speaker 3: you're watching six or eight one o'clock games Sunday night.
52:37
Speaker 3: Same thing. You got a whole day of football Sunday
52:39
Speaker 3: afternoon leading into Sunday night. But you clear out a
52:42
Speaker 3: Monday and you do an event like you said, like
52:45
Speaker 3: Eagles Chiefs, You've got all day to build to it
52:48
Speaker 3: and then have the game. Actually, you know, rise up
52:50
Speaker 3: to that level was just perfect confluence, great set of
52:53
Speaker 3: circumstances and really good result and really fun game.
52:57
Speaker 1: The last question, I'm gonna let you go because this
52:59
Speaker 1: is a holiday week and this is you know you
53:01
Speaker 1: and I can do that. We could do this day.
53:02
Speaker 3: Oh, we could go all day. Man, after I'm done
53:04
Speaker 3: talking to you, I'm gonna have the same conversation with
53:05
Speaker 3: the Commissioner'll see me.
53:07
Speaker 1: I love it.
53:07
Speaker 3: We got a lot of decisions still to make down
53:09
Speaker 3: the stretch.
53:09
Speaker 1: You know, I follow this stuff as much as the football.
53:13
Speaker 1: The silver bullet is what thirty million is like an
53:16
Speaker 1: amazing day? Like what's the number? You look and is
53:18
Speaker 1: that still the metric? The Nielsen ratings? The next work
53:21
Speaker 1: cause we put it out. I see the NFL will
53:23
Speaker 1: put it out and be like, you know, thirty five
53:26
Speaker 1: million watch the Thanksgiving nig games and like we puff
53:28
Speaker 1: our chest. We'll like hell yeah. But like it's a
53:30
Speaker 1: different time now, there's all different ways to watch the games.
53:33
Speaker 1: What is the hallmark of like a great, great broadcast
53:37
Speaker 1: and a great viewing audience these days?
53:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure there's a number. Right. There have
53:42
Speaker 3: been really fantastic NFL games that happen to find themselves
53:46
Speaker 3: at one o'clock in the afternoon and maybe only eight
53:48
Speaker 3: or ten or fifteen percent of the country got to
53:50
Speaker 3: see it. The beauty of this league, though, is how
53:53
Speaker 3: quickly our guys, whether it's NFL films with things like
53:56
Speaker 3: hard knocks or our social media guys are obviously NFL network.
53:59
Speaker 3: Like if you didn't get to see a game within
54:02
Speaker 3: minutes after the final gun, you can get a really
54:05
Speaker 3: good so of what happened over the course of those
54:08
Speaker 3: three hours. And you know, you ask what constitutes success.
54:12
Speaker 3: You know, I would tell you a game that was
54:14
Speaker 3: high scoring, a game that was close, a game that
54:17
Speaker 3: didn't have you know, any bad injuries or any officiating
54:20
Speaker 3: controversies played in like that nice tight three hour windows
54:23
Speaker 3: so that we can get into the next window. And
54:27
Speaker 3: you know, the commissioner always talks about, you know, the
54:29
Speaker 3: team losing at halftime coming back in the second half,
54:31
Speaker 3: or the team behind in the standings getting a win
54:33
Speaker 3: to tighten up the standings. You know, there's a lot
54:37
Speaker 3: of different descriptions of success, but you know, at the
54:41
Speaker 3: end of the day, it's it's are people talking about it?
54:44
Speaker 3: Do they care? Are they engaged? Are partners putting in
54:47
Speaker 3: the time and effort, Are we promoting properly to make
54:49
Speaker 3: sure our fans know where to find the games here
54:51
Speaker 3: when they are in non traditional windows or on non
54:54
Speaker 3: traditional broadcast partners successes making sure that everybody knows where
54:58
Speaker 3: the game is and then hopefully they tune in, and
55:00
Speaker 3: then hopefully once they get there, it's a really good
55:02
Speaker 3: product and a really close game. Whether it did eighteen
55:05
Speaker 3: million or twenty five million thirty five million people isn't
55:07
Speaker 3: as important as you know, are we maximizing the opportunity
55:11
Speaker 3: every time we kick off the game, and are we
55:14
Speaker 3: as a scheduling team, you know, doling out these juicy
55:16
Speaker 3: apples in a right way so that all the broadcast
55:18
Speaker 3: partners and all the fans feel like, hey, that seemed right,
55:21
Speaker 3: that seemed fair, and we're appreciated of the opportunity, and
55:25
Speaker 3: give us another big game and we'll do our best
55:27
Speaker 3: on that one too.
55:28
Speaker 1: I'm ending with a pitch. Can I give you a pitch?
55:30
Speaker 3: Hit me go? What do you got as our.
55:32
Speaker 1: VP of Broadcasting and Scheduling and programming. Okay, So you
55:35
Speaker 1: guys might not think in Park Avenue that we the
55:38
Speaker 1: viewer or we the football nerd cares about who gets
55:43
Speaker 1: what broadcast team in the playoff game or when that
55:47
Speaker 1: playoff game is. You might just for years now it's
55:49
Speaker 1: during the Sunday night second half, Collinsworth will roll out
55:53
Speaker 1: a graphic with Tarrico or back in the day it
55:55
Speaker 1: was Al Michael's be like, all right, well, we just
55:56
Speaker 1: got this playoff schedule and looks like this. I think
56:00
Speaker 1: this stuff has March Madness feelings to it of like that.
56:04
Speaker 3: That's can we get out one at a time?
56:07
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, Mike, hear me out. If we're
56:10
Speaker 1: gonna make the schedule release and.
56:11
Speaker 3: Now we're gonna do it, let's do it. Go ahead,
56:13
Speaker 3: hit me, what's your.
56:13
Speaker 1: Idea Sunday night after the Sunday night game that has
56:19
Speaker 1: just been you know, wrapping up there.
56:21
Speaker 3: Everybody stay up till one o'clock in the morning.
56:23
Speaker 1: Everybody's up.
56:24
Speaker 3: Okay, fine you West Coasters.
56:26
Speaker 1: Okay, everybody's up. Or you do it at halftime. You
56:31
Speaker 1: tossed to me, yes, because I am pitching it. Executive producer,
56:36
Speaker 1: slash host you Annie Bo's Howard Katz, Roger Goodell in
56:45
Speaker 1: a room okay, what's your scheduling room called? After the
56:49
Speaker 1: schedule maker? What's it called?
56:50
Speaker 3: Foul pinchback?
56:51
Speaker 1: Amazing in that room with cameras then in zoom windows
56:56
Speaker 1: like you have Michigan and Duke and Rhode Island. You've
56:59
Speaker 1: got Eric Shanks and Brad Zaeger. In one box, you've
57:03
Speaker 1: got mcmanuson Burston in the CBS execs and an there,
57:07
Speaker 1: you've got all the NBC, Mark Lazareth and Rick Cordella
57:11
Speaker 1: and and and Fred Godelli and you know Rob Hyland
57:14
Speaker 1: and those guys in another box. And then you got
57:16
Speaker 1: your Burke, Magnus, Norby Williams and Jimmy Pataro in another box.
57:20
Speaker 1: You've got four boxes, and you guys unveil who gets
57:25
Speaker 1: what game to the broadcast teams and to their executives
57:30
Speaker 1: in real time for the viewers to watch how that
57:33
Speaker 1: news goes down.
57:34
Speaker 3: Love it? Love it? You should? You should pitch it
57:36
Speaker 3: to the boss man.
57:37
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm gonna get my five minutes with Roger Goodell
57:40
Speaker 1: and that's what I'll pitch it now.
57:42
Speaker 3: Look, it's it's obviously an exciting time of year, and
57:47
Speaker 3: everybody's excited for that information. We're more focused on just
57:50
Speaker 3: getting it out as quickly as we can because it's
57:53
Speaker 3: a short run way to get ready for the most
57:55
Speaker 3: important game of the year. So I don't know that
57:56
Speaker 3: we're gonna hold it till one am for your TV
57:59
Speaker 3: show idea, But you know, if to the extent that
58:02
Speaker 3: fans are interested in how the sausage gets made. I
58:05
Speaker 3: think we've been a lot more honest, a lot more open,
58:08
Speaker 3: a lot more transparent over recent years. I do think
58:12
Speaker 3: that there's a healthy fan interest, a healthy appetite. I'm
58:15
Speaker 3: not sure you want to see us at midnight after eight.
58:17
Speaker 1: Hours is if you guys came out after the game.
58:21
Speaker 1: Because I have a feeling this year, unlike other years,
58:23
Speaker 1: that Week eighteen Sunday night game is gonna matter, like
58:26
Speaker 1: six different permutations are gonna like change based on.
58:29
Speaker 3: Look, We've been really lucky, right the week eighteen, now
58:32
Speaker 3: Week eighteen, now Week seventeen, then the Sunday night football
58:35
Speaker 3: game always seems to matter. After all these games, you
58:39
Speaker 3: always still manage to find yourself into that win and
58:41
Speaker 3: in game on Sunday Night. We've been very fortunate, and
58:44
Speaker 3: you're right just looking at how it's shaping up right now.
58:48
Speaker 3: You know, could be a Miami Buffalo, could be an
58:50
Speaker 3: Indie Houston, could be a pit bullt. I mean, there's
58:52
Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of stuff at stake. I think
58:54
Speaker 3: Rams Niners is one of our Week eighteen games. There's
58:57
Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of stuff still to play for
58:59
Speaker 3: down the stretch and yeah, it'll be really interesting. And
59:02
Speaker 3: you're right, you know you talk about hey, let's get
59:04
Speaker 3: you know, Rob Hiland and Frankie Deeli up. You know
59:07
Speaker 3: they're gonna be busy producing. I'm not sure they're going
59:10
Speaker 3: to have the time and energy to look away and
59:13
Speaker 3: argue on their behalf for wild card scheduling, but it'll
59:16
Speaker 3: be it'll be a fun stretch run on. Hopefully we
59:19
Speaker 3: has everybody still in it.
59:20
Speaker 1: If you don't got to be the NFL Network show
59:22
Speaker 1: to do it, or you don't give me, we'll throw
59:24
Speaker 1: it on an NFL plus. What do you say there?
59:27
Speaker 1: You got subscriptions?
59:29
Speaker 3: Should be the face. You should be the face of
59:30
Speaker 3: NFL plus two right right here? What about games man?
59:34
Speaker 3: You've been doing sidelines forever. Do you want to you
59:37
Speaker 3: want to get in the you want to get in
59:38
Speaker 3: the big chair. You want to do play by play?
59:39
Speaker 3: Do you want to do?
59:40
Speaker 1: And I did preseason for the Rams and the Jets
59:43
Speaker 1: as an analyst, and I was next to an ex
59:46
Speaker 1: player in both those and I absolutely loved it. This year,
59:49
Speaker 1: I was hoping to do a sideline game. I wasn't
59:51
Speaker 1: assigned any of the NFL Network sideline games. So I
59:54
Speaker 1: was kind of bummed out. I was thinking, maybe I
59:56
Speaker 1: be spending my Christmas in Denver, but it's gonna be
59:58
Speaker 1: James Palmer and Sherry Burrs on the sidelines. I hope
1:00:01
Speaker 1: I get back in there. I do love doing it.
1:00:03
Speaker 1: Last year I did Buffalo Miami sidelines. I hit with
1:00:06
Speaker 1: a snowball. Yeah, that's like my highlight as a silas.
1:00:13
Speaker 3: I can't confirm. Let me hit you with a pitch
1:00:15
Speaker 3: before I let you go, let me hit you with
1:00:16
Speaker 3: a pitch. You've seen that we are going to Brazil, Yes,
1:00:21
Speaker 3: first time ever, South Paolo. Not sure when we're going
1:00:24
Speaker 3: to play it yet, still working with the you know,
1:00:26
Speaker 3: international folks. I know some folks have written some things.
1:00:29
Speaker 3: Nothing set yet. Don't know when that's game Gona, we've
1:00:31
Speaker 3: seen it could be. It's absolutely a conversation. I'm not
1:00:35
Speaker 3: sure it's as far down the line as some people
1:00:37
Speaker 3: think it is. But we're playing in Brazil. If that
1:00:39
Speaker 3: game ends up on NFL network, how about the Good
1:00:42
Speaker 3: Morning Football Crew goes to Brazil and calls that game
1:00:45
Speaker 3: from the booth.
1:00:45
Speaker 1: All right, as you say that, I am already in
1:00:47
Speaker 1: my head. Wheels in my head. Have an amazing idea.
1:00:52
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that entails, but like the
1:00:54
Speaker 1: Good Morning Football crew in Brazil for a week leading
1:00:57
Speaker 1: up to it, sounds of it.
1:00:59
Speaker 3: They do World Cups down there, they do Olympics down there.
1:01:02
Speaker 3: Wait till the NFL rolls into town and you four
1:01:05
Speaker 3: go in carnival. Let's go.
1:01:08
Speaker 1: I'm gonna clip this off. We're gonna roll this as
1:01:11
Speaker 1: now we're in the depth of winter. We're all pale.
1:01:13
Speaker 1: I'm twenty pounds, by the way. On NFL Network on Friday,
1:01:17
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get Kyle, Jamie and Jason's reaction to a
1:01:20
Speaker 1: week in Brazil courtesy of the fine schedule makers and
1:01:24
Speaker 1: your team over there, Mike, no further ado. We will
1:01:27
Speaker 1: wrap this up with a thank you to all work
1:01:30
Speaker 1: that you do and the dedication that you and your
1:01:32
Speaker 1: team have. I know you, Charlotte Blake, obviously Annie, everyone
1:01:38
Speaker 1: in that building. It's one of the most thankless jobs.
1:01:40
Speaker 1: But it is so so important and we value you
1:01:44
Speaker 1: guys so much, and I love our friendship, but also
1:01:46
Speaker 1: the amazing work you do and how candid you are
1:01:49
Speaker 1: with me on when you come on the podcast.
1:01:51
Speaker 3: Always happy to talk to you. I love talking to
1:01:52
Speaker 3: people that want to know that really care and look,
1:01:56
Speaker 3: we're all fans. That part's great. But when you learn
1:01:58
Speaker 3: a little bit more about behind the scenes and how
1:02:00
Speaker 3: the sausage gets made, and then it all culminates with
1:02:03
Speaker 3: something big and fun, like that Philly Casey game we
1:02:06
Speaker 3: talked to out or like hopefully Christmas coming up on Monday. Yeah, there's, uh,
1:02:11
Speaker 3: there's there's there's some pride, but it's fleeting and you
1:02:14
Speaker 3: know what's next and it never ends, and it's uh,
1:02:19
Speaker 3: it's the best time of the year. Enjoying it. I
1:02:21
Speaker 3: hope everybody else is enjoying it. And you certainly know
1:02:24
Speaker 3: where to find me if you have any questions.
1:02:25
Speaker 1: Awesome. Mike North one of our best guests, one of
1:02:28
Speaker 1: our regular guests, a friend of the pod. If you
1:02:30
Speaker 1: will have an awesome Christmas weekend, my friend, I know
1:02:32
Speaker 1: you're a family man, but be sure to be watching
1:02:34
Speaker 1: some football too.
1:02:35
Speaker 3: Please, no, we'll be watching take care of I'll good
1:02:38
Speaker 3: seeing it. Awesome.
1:02:47
Speaker 1: Mike North is one of my favorite guests. Aaron, before
1:02:50
Speaker 1: we just recap it, I was talking about the Eagles
1:02:53
Speaker 1: and him and the Cowboys in the playoffs. Listen to this.
1:02:56
Speaker 1: This is the headline I just got texted as we
1:02:57
Speaker 1: do this on a Tuesday morning after the Eagles lost.
1:03:00
Speaker 1: If both the Cowboys and the Eagles each run the table,
1:03:04
Speaker 1: the NFC East will be determined by the fifth tiebreaker
1:03:08
Speaker 1: strength of victory, and right now the Eagles hold the
1:03:13
Speaker 1: edge on that. That is the NFL season in a nutshell.
1:03:17
Speaker 1: If both teams just take care of their business from
1:03:19
Speaker 1: here on out, the fifth tiebreaker the fifth tiebreaker and
1:03:23
Speaker 1: that will enforce. And the crazy part about it, that's
1:03:25
Speaker 1: not just like an AFC South and the Cowboys don't
1:03:28
Speaker 1: lose at home, So if they lose out in the
1:03:31
Speaker 1: fifth tiebreaker, they have to go play three road playoff
1:03:33
Speaker 1: games before the Super Bowl. If they win it, they
1:03:36
Speaker 1: likely have two home playoff games and then a road
1:03:41
Speaker 1: NFC Championship game at San Francisco. That's the season, dude,
1:03:45
Speaker 1: It's nuts. Mike North, so good. What was your big
1:03:49
Speaker 1: takeaway on that interview?
1:03:51
Speaker 2: I mean, as he was going through both the wild
1:03:53
Speaker 2: card weekend games and even the things leading up to it,
1:03:57
Speaker 2: like he was talking about Week eighteam. Obviously, as a
1:03:59
Speaker 2: Bills fan, I'm focused on the Bills Dolphins game that week,
1:04:02
Speaker 2: but there are so many good games and that's not
1:04:06
Speaker 2: even me, just like you know, drinking the kool aid,
1:04:09
Speaker 2: Like there are so many games in seventeen and eighteen
1:04:12
Speaker 2: that really matter, and then all the wild card things,
1:04:15
Speaker 2: everything will be exciting. There's there's not a game in
1:04:18
Speaker 2: there where I'm like, oh man.
1:04:19
Speaker 3: It's gonna be.
1:04:22
Speaker 2: I don't know, the Titans, you know, getting clobbered by
1:04:25
Speaker 2: the Ravens or something like, it's they're all going to
1:04:27
Speaker 2: be good.
1:04:28
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:04:29
Speaker 2: Uh.
1:04:30
Speaker 1: I love the dynamics of the networks. So when you
1:04:32
Speaker 1: start getting into who gets the Cowboys right, like it's
1:04:36
Speaker 1: the biggest ticket, let's call it like it is, and like,
1:04:38
Speaker 1: how do you feed all those mouths? And then remember
1:04:41
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, Bucking Aikman were on Fox
1:04:44
Speaker 1: and Aikman openly was bitching about you know, I made
1:04:47
Speaker 1: a joke. He didn't bitch about it on there, but
1:04:49
Speaker 1: you know I made a joke. As the Eagles were
1:04:50
Speaker 1: blowing out the Buccaneers. He's like, oh, forty nine ers Cowboys,
1:04:54
Speaker 1: two NFC teams would have loved to have had that game.
1:04:56
Speaker 1: And it was on CBS, like all these things, and
1:04:58
Speaker 1: there's all these different mouths to feed in billions of
1:05:00
Speaker 1: dollars at play who gets what game and when is
1:05:03
Speaker 1: that game? So that was cool and I I don't
1:05:06
Speaker 1: think my pitch was that crazy, you know, just with
1:05:09
Speaker 1: the NFL that's looking to monetize and broadcast every single
1:05:12
Speaker 1: little thing, whether it be inside training camp or NFL
1:05:15
Speaker 1: Kickoff weekend or the schedule. You're telling me fans finding
1:05:19
Speaker 1: out when their team and what network their playoff game
1:05:22
Speaker 1: is going to be on doesn't matter. I don't know.
1:05:23
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty good, pretty sexy. And I also
1:05:26
Speaker 1: I'm here for the Brazil trip. I don't see it
1:05:28
Speaker 1: happening yet, but I'm here for the Brazil trip. I
1:05:30
Speaker 1: don't like to get myself too excited about things. I
1:05:33
Speaker 1: like to say, say grounded, but Brazil sounds pretty good.
1:05:35
Speaker 1: I'll be wearing a I'll wear a thong bikini that
1:05:38
Speaker 1: whole week if we get to go to Brazil. How's
1:05:39
Speaker 1: that for a statement.
1:05:40
Speaker 2: Well, maybe I'm less excited for the Brazil trip now, yeah.
1:05:44
Speaker 1: Or it's the podcast. The podcast will no video. On
1:05:49
Speaker 1: that note, let's give our award away for the week.
1:05:53
Speaker 1: We're having fun with these. This is the season with
1:05:55
Speaker 1: Peter Schrager, and this is delivering results. Presented by Uber Eat,
1:06:00
Speaker 1: and the person I want to shout out who delivered
1:06:03
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1:06:10
Speaker 1: Flacco down ten in the fourth quarter, finds a way
1:06:14
Speaker 1: to lead his team to a victory, and the Cleveland
1:06:17
Speaker 1: Browns find themselves nine to five on the season, comfortably
1:06:22
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1:06:25
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Speaker 1: and I want to give a quick shout out to
1:06:54
Speaker 1: one of the very important behind the scenes people at
1:06:57
Speaker 1: this podcast, the season with Peter Schrager. Her name is Carly.
1:07:00
Speaker 1: She's from the iHeart team, and Carly's on the IR
1:07:03
Speaker 1: right now. She had an injury and we know that
1:07:07
Speaker 1: she's recovering. But I'm a huge fan of all the
1:07:09
Speaker 1: folks at the iHeart Squad, and Carly has been a
1:07:12
Speaker 1: big part of this show. I'm told she listens to
1:07:14
Speaker 1: the program and she's making a very nice recovery. So
1:07:17
Speaker 1: we hope to have her back on the field real soon.
1:07:20
Speaker 1: And Carly, you better believe it. We hope to have
1:07:24
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1:07:26
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1:07:28
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1:07:30
Speaker 1: back on the field soon. But we're thinking about you, Carly.
1:07:33
Speaker 1: And on that note, another episode of the season with
1:07:37
Speaker 1: Peter schragerm many thanks to Mike North, who dedicated way
1:07:39
Speaker 1: too much time to this silly little podcast. I know
1:07:41
Speaker 1: he's a busy man, but we really enjoy it, and
1:07:44
Speaker 1: I enjoy all the feedback from listeners. I'm not tooting
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Speaker 1: my own horn here when I'm saying that de veto
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Speaker 1: Stillato stuff. Last week it was, oh, I know the agent,
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Speaker 1: let's have him on. And I think it was the
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Speaker 1: first real window that we got to Sean Stillato and
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Speaker 1: then he was the story of the week. And we
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Speaker 1: like to set the agenda, like to set the tone
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Speaker 1: and we like to give you guys a peek inside.
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Speaker 1: I can assure you not everyone's talking to Mike North
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Speaker 1: this week on the eve of a very important three
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Speaker 1: week stretch for the NFL and then the playoff run.
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