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121 Cain's Curse: Was He Really the First Vampire? · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: There was this massive dog man and he had already
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  Speaker 1: had one Paul, massive Paul on my front the chield,
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  Speaker 1: and one Paul right above my mirror on the driver's side,
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  Speaker 1: and the driver's side of my car just pushed down,
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  Speaker 1: just the weight of it just puts pushed down, and
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  Speaker 1: the Paul that was on my front windshield, my windshield
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  Speaker 1: started cracking.
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  Speaker 2: And held it and held it and held it.
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  Speaker 3: And then while I was holding it, but it's like the.
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  Speaker 4: Ground underneath me.
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  Speaker 2: Just kind of opened up and I just kind of
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  Speaker 2: fell through the planet. He wasn't moving, he wasn't blinking,
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  Speaker 2: like there was a complete like just like blankness to
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  Speaker 2: his face, like there was this there was nothing there.
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  Speaker 4: I rubbed my corn idle my truck.
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  Speaker 1: I jump out the truck book, and that's what I
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  Speaker 1: knew it was.
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  Speaker 4: It was just gold there.
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  Speaker 1: There would be a real low guttural crowd.
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  Speaker 2: One more step and he's going to be in clear view.
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  Speaker 2: And he takes that one.
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  Speaker 4: More step and he just it was like he just
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  Speaker 4: stepped behind an invisible curtain and he wasn't there anymore.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome back to show everybody. This is episode one and
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  Speaker 4: twenty one with Da Wi song a paranormal author. She's
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  Speaker 4: also you know, she's she digs deep into what she's
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  Speaker 4: writing about, so it's not it's not, you know, not factual.
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  Speaker 4: It's also very factual, and she puts a nice little
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  Speaker 4: twist on it and makes it her own.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: In this episode, we talked about a recent book that
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  Speaker 4: she released about vampires and the possible origin of vampires.
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  Speaker 4: UH and this as it goes, it's she believes it's
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  Speaker 4: possibly that Caine was the original vampire, or not the
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  Speaker 4: original but turned in to a vampire by none other
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  Speaker 4: than Lilith. Very very interesting, very very interesting conversation. We
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  Speaker 4: talked about a lot of things, all the conspiracy is
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  Speaker 4: going on now, what's going on in the world, as
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  Speaker 4: well her possible upcoming books, et cetera. It was a
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  Speaker 4: really cool, really really cool conversation. If you want to
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  Speaker 4: the description. So please sit back and enjoy this episode
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  Speaker 4: with day song.
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  Speaker 2: He Oh, thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks for accepting my invitation. So we were talking about
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  Speaker 4: where we're at. You're in the state somewhere. We haven't
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  Speaker 4: figured that out yet, but it's not important.
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  Speaker 2: I'm in northern Kentucky, just for the record, about a
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  Speaker 2: mile away from Bobby Mackie's.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, it's northern Kentucky. Oh, that's right, So you wouldn't
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  Speaker 4: be that far from the LBO. You were telling me
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  Speaker 4: that you're going to go out.
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  Speaker 2: There about four hours away.
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  Speaker 4: Four hours away, right. So Jody, Jody Cooks got me
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  Speaker 4: in touch with you. He's the president of the North
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  Speaker 4: American Dogway approaject. He's like, you gotta talk to her,
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  Speaker 4: and I was like, okay, she knows a lot about
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  Speaker 4: this vampire. I was okay, okay, okay, okay, So Da,
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  Speaker 4: please do me a favor. Introduce yourself, tell us a
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  Speaker 4: little bit about yourself and where we can find you.
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  Speaker 2: I am da Wysong and I'm a paranormal writer and
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  Speaker 2: a researcher, and I am getting ready to release my
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  Speaker 2: fifty eighth book, which is the twenty fifth book of
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  Speaker 2: the Monster Hunters of America series May May thirty first,
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  Speaker 2: which I'm very excited about. It's gonna be hunting for
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  Speaker 2: Tolpus that the Monster Hunters will be heading to Tibet,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm pretty excited about that. I got some new
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  Speaker 2: projects coming up, starting in the summer of my first
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  Speaker 2: paranormal romance, which will be Darkness Brewing. I have another
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  Speaker 2: book that's going to be coming up that is a
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  Speaker 2: collection of short stories of horror called Anthology of Madness.
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  Speaker 2: And I have a third one I like to do.
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  Speaker 2: I like to keep it going on the table. Another
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  Speaker 2: author and friend, John Van Dervender, and I'll be collaborating
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  Speaker 2: on a book called Gin which will be stationed over
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  Speaker 2: in Iraq with the stargates and the you know, all
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  Speaker 2: that going on. So we're pretty excited about that. And
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  Speaker 2: you can find my books like on Amazon, Josepheth Barnes
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  Speaker 2: of local bookstores. They're in libraries too, so well, so.
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  Speaker 4: Just go ahead, guys. I'll put the links down in
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  Speaker 4: the description below. That's you can also look it up
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  Speaker 4: on YouTube or not. I'm sure YouTube probably too, but
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  Speaker 4: on you just go google it up. D dot a dot
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  Speaker 4: y song. Uh yeah, So what are we going to
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  Speaker 4: talk about today? You're so well versed? Is the word
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  Speaker 4: I was introducing?
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  Speaker 2: Vampires? Sound great? Yes? Last night I did a show
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  Speaker 2: with Bigfoot Michigan, Rob and Kristen. We we talked about
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  Speaker 2: basically cryptozoology in general and my new book that's coming
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  Speaker 2: out for Hunting for Tolpos. But I really do put
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  Speaker 2: books out like this is the twenty fifth book of
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  Speaker 2: the series, and really it's basically been a book a month.
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  Speaker 2: So this one that I'm writing right now is probably
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  Speaker 2: the biggest one out of the series. And so it's
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  Speaker 2: taken me two months, right, But only a couple of
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  Speaker 2: months ago I wrote a book on vampires, the do
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  Speaker 2: At City Vampires, and then a couple of months later
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  Speaker 2: I wrote one on chupacabra, which I have some pretty
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  Speaker 2: interesting insight tying those two subjects together.
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  Speaker 4: Interesting. I'd love to hear that. Yeah, so let's kind
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  Speaker 4: of let's do a little bit more of a deep dive.
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  Speaker 4: If you don't mind.
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  Speaker 2: Where no problem all start for you?
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  Speaker 4: What is the what is your I guess people would
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  Speaker 4: say the occult, which is a soiled word which basically
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  Speaker 4: means the unknown or the hidden? Hidden? Is better said,
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  Speaker 4: what got you? Where did you start that? And how
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  Speaker 4: did that? Was there an incident or is just a
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  Speaker 4: general you know?
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  Speaker 2: I think, well, believe it or not. I grew up
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  Speaker 2: as a daughter of a deacon, and so we I
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  Speaker 2: was brought up raised pretty conservative and pretty religious, but
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  Speaker 2: I bucked it. From eight years old on, I was
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  Speaker 2: stuck down in the parlor because I'd ask questions like
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  Speaker 2: such as, you know, if Adam and Eve were the
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  Speaker 2: only man and woman, they had two men, how did
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  Speaker 2: that work? You know, how did the preparation things that
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  Speaker 2: they're like, we need to put tucker away? So early on,
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  Speaker 2: I was always asking questions, diving deeper. Nobody really knew
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  Speaker 2: how to answer me. And back then they just didn't
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  Speaker 2: have the readily available material to buy and books or
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  Speaker 2: YouTube or you know, they just didn't have anything like that.
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  Speaker 2: So I had to go kind of within and search
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  Speaker 2: for those answers. So I do believe it is somewhat,
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  Speaker 2: you know, into the occult, which my father, being the deacon,
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  Speaker 2: definitely thought anything I did manage to bring home from
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  Speaker 2: the library or something it was the devil. And I
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  Speaker 2: didn't buy into any of that. I like to use
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  Speaker 2: the word esoteric or but you know, and then it
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  Speaker 2: does cross. I mean, it's all blends in and there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of blur there. But you know, the main
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  Speaker 2: thing is I just like the unknown. I like the
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  Speaker 2: the surface. I want to go down in the raven
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  Speaker 2: hole so freaking deep that you can't go any further,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 4: I want to corners to see what there. That's what
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  Speaker 4: I was.
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  Speaker 2: And I think what kind of topped it off with
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  Speaker 2: just who I was, you know, as a person or
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  Speaker 2: a child, was that I started having. I started having
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  Speaker 2: when they didn't call it paranormal activity, then they I
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  Speaker 2: just started. I always had weird stuff happening to me,
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  Speaker 2: like I was astra projecting. By the age of five,
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  Speaker 2: I thought everybody did it. It was so natural. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: if I tried to explain what I was doing, because
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  Speaker 2: at the time we didn't know that was answeral projection,
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  Speaker 2: but it was. And then I found out later it
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  Speaker 2: runs in the family just so you know, uh and
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  Speaker 2: so on, and I would just have like ghostly encounters.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't like I really ever thought that I grew
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  Speaker 2: up in a haunted house. I think it was basically
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  Speaker 2: more me wherever I went. It wasn't the location, it
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  Speaker 2: was just wherever I went, I had those kind of experiences.
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  Speaker 2: And then when I got out on my own as
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  Speaker 2: a young you know, as a teenager and young adult,
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  Speaker 2: it just seemed to accelerate. Then it really got into
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  Speaker 2: some really intense experiences, which I guess I always just
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  Speaker 2: you know, I was just busy raising kids, raising you know,
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  Speaker 2: doing the family thing, and busy, you know, just being
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  Speaker 2: a young adult. And so I always knew that I
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  Speaker 2: would probably one day, right, But I didn't set out
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  Speaker 2: like I'm going to be this you know, paranormal author
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  Speaker 2: and I'm going to write about this, this and that.
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  Speaker 2: So eventually, I guess by the time I really just
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  Speaker 2: sat down and decided I was going to write it,
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  Speaker 2: just it's the process for me. It comes out starts
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  Speaker 2: with a title, and then I get an image and
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  Speaker 2: then I go, I actually have my illustrator for most
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  Speaker 2: of my books is in Mexico. His name's Jorge, and
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  Speaker 2: he just like reads my mind. I can explain to
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  Speaker 2: him what I want and he just like within two
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  Speaker 2: days he had that for me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: With that, like all the covers and all the you
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  Speaker 2: know titles, I've got it like tucked away. And then
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm going to write about vampires this month.
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  Speaker 2: And then I just pull the cover out and I
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  Speaker 2: just sit down and I start writing I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: write about.
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  Speaker 4: So the title kind of comes from the subconscious of
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  Speaker 4: like oh that's interesting. Boom, there's the title, and then
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  Speaker 4: you go, yeah, I got I know exactly if I
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  Speaker 4: if I understand, I write it for me like it's
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  Speaker 4: a feel like when I write music is a feeling.
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  Speaker 4: I go, yeah, this is this, and then it could
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  Speaker 4: be the middle of it, or the end of it,
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  Speaker 4: or at least okay, this part and this part, Wow
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  Speaker 4: they fit together right, and then you start going from there.
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  Speaker 4: That's that's awesome. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: There's nothing like the creative process. You know, writers and
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  Speaker 2: creatives do things all day, have their own process. But
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  Speaker 2: I'm that writer that never sits down. I might get
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  Speaker 2: a name for a character, but I don't have an outline,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't know what's going to happen until i'm
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  Speaker 2: writing it.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, So so kind of like, excuse me, you caught
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  Speaker 4: me in the middle of a bad time.
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  Speaker 2: You're fine, kind.
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  Speaker 4: Of like a jazz writer, I go with the flo
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  Speaker 4: it's a joke from a friend. Min fantastic. You caught
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  Speaker 4: me right in the middle, is like, Oh, I gotta
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  Speaker 4: talk here.
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  Speaker 2: You're fine.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I know. I'm not worried about it. This is
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  Speaker 4: my this is what I do, man, It's it's you know,
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  Speaker 4: everyone could talk to anybody about anything, but I am
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  Speaker 4: kind of you know, the what people kind of come
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  Speaker 4: to see, of course, and who I interview. So me
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  Speaker 4: messing up is just par for the course and awesome.
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  Speaker 4: If anything, I'll get a couple of laughs. Or did
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  Speaker 4: you see him? Let's go back and looking to do
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  Speaker 4: that again. All right? So vampires, So last last month's
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  Speaker 4: book or the month before last if I follow correctly.
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  Speaker 2: So I think it was five months ago I did
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  Speaker 2: the vampire book, but it was the Jewett City Vampires.
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  Speaker 4: Jewett City. This was a research project as well. We
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  Speaker 4: had to look into things.
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  Speaker 2: Right, I'm an extensive so I don't consider myself just
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  Speaker 2: an author. I am a very extensive researcher. And so
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  Speaker 2: when I do before I start writing, my process is
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  Speaker 2: I go, I start getting ideas like vampire. I'm just
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  Speaker 2: going to go. I don't know what I'm looking for.
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  Speaker 2: But that's when I, you know, I remember that his
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  Speaker 2: you know, the story of Mercy Brown, and I remember
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  Speaker 2: the tuberculosis and the consumption and I and that's how
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  Speaker 2: I actually got the title for Jewett City. I just
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  Speaker 2: thought it was fascinating and wondered if there really was
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  Speaker 2: some sub sub substance to that, you know what I mean. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: which I you know, as I went down the rabbit
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  Speaker 2: hole with that and actually touched base with a couple
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  Speaker 2: other authors too. Well, my one friend Dennis Stuck Dennis Carroll,
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  Speaker 2: which would be a great guy.
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  Speaker 4: I've had one.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he wrote the foreword for that, and he actually
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  Speaker 2: has hand encounters with vampires, like real life vampires.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, he's the one. He experienced a vampire. Actually, he's
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  Speaker 4: the other person I talked to vampires about. He experienced
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  Speaker 4: one in South Carolina. Savannah. Yeah, Savannah, Yeah, I've spoken
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  Speaker 4: to him he is incredible. Yes, of course.
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  Speaker 2: So you know when I started getting into that particular area,
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  Speaker 2: and I think it's just the way my brain thinks,
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  Speaker 2: or because I'm always wanting to dig deeper for the truth,
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  Speaker 2: so as I did that, so I consider it historical fiction.
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  Speaker 2: So that's why, because I'm researching, everything is spot on
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  Speaker 2: with the history part, and I just web, I do
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  Speaker 2: it really for my own protection and say it's fiction.
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  Speaker 2: I like to stay alive.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I got you. I got you. That's that's
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  Speaker 4: very intelligent. So you make you make a solid foundation
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  Speaker 4: of the concept. That way, if someone were to actual research,
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  Speaker 4: they would go, wait a minute, there is a cemetery
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  Speaker 4: on the east side of the town. Oh yeah, that
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  Speaker 4: is one of the sixteen hundreds, or you know, et cetera.
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  Speaker 4: And then didn't just kind.
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  Speaker 2: Of cross reference than anything and everything that's in the
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  Speaker 2: book historically a spot on. Oh yeah, I web the
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  Speaker 2: I weave the characters into that present.
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  Speaker 4: Day, right, I like that. That's that's a cool cool
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  Speaker 4: about that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I do think that they were vampires. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I know that tuberculates tuberculosis was going on in the consumption,
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  Speaker 2: but just like the story with Mercy Brown. I mean
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  Speaker 2: they there was still you know, blood in her heart.
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  Speaker 2: And I do believe that she was probably a vampire.
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  Speaker 2: And the question I think as I was because that
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  Speaker 2: was the preliminary first part of the book, and as
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  Speaker 2: I dug down deeper into the subject, you know, where
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  Speaker 2: are the origins come from? You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Because we are so brainwashed into thinking whatever we watch
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  Speaker 2: on TV or a movie, that's the way that it is.
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  Speaker 2: But that's the Hollywood version of what a vampire is,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 2: And I you know, where where did the origins from
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  Speaker 2: vampires come from? And so in my research, in my
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  Speaker 2: wild imagination, I took it all the way back to
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  Speaker 2: Cain and Abel, and I believe that Cain was the
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  Speaker 2: original vampire, and actually I believe he became a vampire.
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  Speaker 2: I believe Lilith was the first vampire. And in my book,
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  Speaker 2: oh yeah, and I mean actually there is some historical
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  Speaker 2: evidence to substantiate that because of you know, you got
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  Speaker 2: to realize we got Hebrew that we're into, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we're the translation that comes out. But when you know,
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  Speaker 2: in that little thing that I was talking about, if
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  Speaker 2: it's kanaan Abel and there's no females, you know. But
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  Speaker 2: when king was cast out into the desert and he
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  Speaker 2: was branded the cane, you know, the mark of Cain,
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  Speaker 2: who was he supposed to be protected from? Who else
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  Speaker 2: was in the desert If it was just Cain and Abel, Well,
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  Speaker 2: you know who was in the desert Lilith in my
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  Speaker 2: book anyway, And I do think that there is some
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  Speaker 2: things that point to that this could have very well
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  Speaker 2: been a real thing. And of course, you know, you
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  Speaker 2: can imagine Kin lost in the wilderness and he comes
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  Speaker 2: across Lilith, and Lilith introduces him to blood and drinks
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  Speaker 2: from the goblet, which was her blood, and I think
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  Speaker 2: that that was the onset of that. Now, when you
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  Speaker 2: go further into the Book of Enoch, Cain went and
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  Speaker 2: built the city of Enoch. And if you go look
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  Speaker 2: into that translation, guess what it is. The city of
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  Speaker 2: vampires is what a modern day translation is. So he
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  Speaker 2: basically went and just took all the wayward people, and
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  Speaker 2: I believe, well in my book anyway, he turned them.
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  Speaker 2: So you got a group of vampires. And I don't
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  Speaker 2: think it's the kind of vampires that we're seeing on
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  Speaker 2: you know, interviewing vampire, well kind of with a vampire,
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  Speaker 2: kind of would have something somewhat like that, because I
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  Speaker 2: do think there most of them are aristocratic. Somehow they
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  Speaker 2: get money and sometimes they live pretty well, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean. And they okay, the shadows, but that
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  Speaker 2: is where I do believe the original. I think he
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  Speaker 2: was the original vampire.
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  Speaker 4: Him and Lilith.
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  Speaker 2: Now when you go back into the Book of Enoch,
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  Speaker 2: when you read the story of the fallen Angels, you
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  Speaker 2: know that's what I'm gonna go.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not a big Bible buff by any
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  Speaker 4: stretching him out. I'm not even.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let me just enlighten you the little.
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  Speaker 4: Watchers, and I also know the nephyl I know what
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: they are.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so the Watchers and the fallen Angels. The reason
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: why the Book of Enoch wasn't in the Bible was
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: because it didn't correlate with the Canyon. You know that,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: it didn't go with the church's teachings. They didn't like
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: talking about the fallen Angels.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: About the Council, and I see you.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Didn't want to have that, you know, human connection human women,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: and they didn't want to talk about that or acknowledge
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: it's where the nepheline come from. And so when you
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: look up the characteristics of the nephilem, they're cannibalistic. They
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: suck blood, they eat flesh. So what does that sound like?
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: It's a vampire?
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: Good? This is going to ruffle some feathers. Actually have
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: an interesting question, and it's kind of on topic, but
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: a little bit to the side. And I don't mean
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: to if anyone out there is religious, I don't want
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: you to feel that I'm you know, shitting on you,
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: for lack of a better word. And you know when
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: Jesus said, drink of this for it is my blood,
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: and eat of this for it is my flesh. That's
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: always been a part of me within that religious faith.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: That makes me kind of not want to be part
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: of that, you know, where it's like, I'm cool, bro,
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: I like all the other stuff. You know, love that.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: That's funny because when I wrote one of my creeper
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: keepers was the time travel in the Knights Templar, and
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: I started that out where he actually is down around
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Red River Gorge. This boy in the book, which was
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: based on one of my grandsons, Jesse James, and he
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: walks in through this portal. But anyway, he ends up
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: in France, where you know where all the mother where
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: the Mary Magdalene churches are, you know, the Cafar country, Montagueur,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: and where all the caves were, where you know Mary
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: was supposed to be and everything. And so there's a
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: scene in that where he is outside the Catholic church
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: and he's looking through the window and he's witnessing them
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: taking the eucharists. But it isn't wine, and it isn't wafers,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: it's flesh and blood. So I kind of put that
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: theme of vampirism into the Roman Catholic Church because they're
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: the ones that actually burnt the Cathars to the ground
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: because they wouldn't participate in the eucharists because that's what
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: their belief was, that they were cannibals.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: The people, yes you do what do? Wake me up? Okay,
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: I'm here to be awake.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Fars were considered the perfect ones, and they were like
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: they were really they were they you know, this isn't
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: like the twelve hundreds. Do you know the filmmaker Richard Stanley, Uh,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: that's where he lives, and he's an historian, and I'm
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: fascinated with him, and I've learned a lot from him there.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Check out his documentary The Other Worlds. You're gonna be
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: wanting to go to France, I'm telling you, Okay. But anyway,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: uh yeah, so I lost my train of thought now,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: but helped me out.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: What we were we were we were in France and
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: we were talking about the the Cathars.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: They literally wouldn't they refused. They they are Gnostic, So
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: they followed the Gnostic body.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's who they were. I know, the Gnostics. I
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: didn't know they were called the Cathars.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: No, they weren't. They were just a sect of believers
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: that followed then. Okay, okay, okay, But the Catholic Church
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: was very threatened by the Cathars because they were very
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: peace loving and guess what, they gave homage to women.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Women were their equals in the twelve hundreds, which is
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: completely against what the Catholic Church thought too. So they
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: bucked the system. They didn't fight them, they just weren't
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: going to be compliant with it. So they just you know,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: I think actually at that time when they were burned
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: to the stake, the woman was the leader, which you
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: just didn't back especially in the twelve hundreds that just
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: didn't happen, but it was all over ultimately because they
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: wouldn't participate in the Eucharist. So in My Knights Templar
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: and time travel and the Knights Templar, I brought that,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: It brought that history into that storyline.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: I feel like the pull and tease and pull apart.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they end up in Scotland. They end up in
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Scotland where the Knights Templar also were burned at the stake.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: Wow, So I knew that to understand. So I know,
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: a gnostic is is like the truth that you understand
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: or that you figure out through time and but the
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: Catholics and it's more one is revealed truth through the
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: Bible and the other one is true truth or something
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: of that name.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the gnostic.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: Gnostic knowledge, that's where it comes from.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: The gnostic just means hidden, hidden and not in the
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: light because they want it suppressed because they do believe
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: in Jesus. But it's not the Jesus that the church
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: today believes in. I mean, because you know, you go
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: back in the church, you know, for two hundred years
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: is completely a different church than what it was after
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: his death and of course, yeah, so it was more
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: like based on those days that teachings and I would
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: call that consider that esoteric knowledge, hidden knowledge that is
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: where you read it and it's like that makes perfect sense.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: It's like an inner knowing, Like that really connects with
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: what I'm there's a lot of teachings.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of you. There's a book that
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: I just I bought, but I never got to read
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: it until I moved, and then I moved to Mexico.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: It's called The Sacred Mushroom in the Cross by John
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: m Aleegro and it's based on the Dead Sea Scrolls
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: where they found some extra ones in the sixties I
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: think it was, and they had a bunch of like
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: you know, Catholic or religious teachers could read it. And
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: this one guy knew it. They said it's religious. He goes, no,
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: it's it's Jesus. Actually, the original name is a mushroom
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: covered in God seamen. It's like it's fertility rituals hidden
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: within the psychedelics of the a Anina mescara mushroom.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: So it's like we whoa, Yeah, we got such a
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: whitewashed version of all of it. Yeah, everything, just like
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: even with like with Mary Magdalene, with Easter just passing,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: and you know, i have six grown children and seventeen
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: grandchildren and I'm getting ready to have my fifth great grandchild,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: so I get to kind of drop my little ideas.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I never you know, they just everybody has their own,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: you know, electic belief and stuff. But it's really cool
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: because a couple of them are real sticklers. Not many
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: of them, but they do believe that. I believe it,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: like it's exactly the way it is. And there most
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: of us don't think that in the family, but there's
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: like one or two. But you know, just like marrying
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Magdalene when when you go into that, she was at
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: the foot of the cross, and so she had to
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: be the wife. If he was a rabbi, he had
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: to be married, you know. And a lot of people
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: don't give her credit. She was the first one that
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: she when he appeared from the cave, you know what
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: I mean. There's reasons for that, but they they branded
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: her as a scarlet whore when really she was a
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: She was an initiate from the Temple of Isis and
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: that was part of what she was doing for him.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Like after the cave and getting preparing his body and
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: all that. That was what she learned from the Temple
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: of Isis. She was an initiate, she was, you know,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: a high priesst. So, uh, it's just that is milk.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: I mean they that's like no version of the truth
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: is in the Bible today, you know what I mean.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: But you will find those things in the Gnostic teachings.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, which is if you do that, then you're considered
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: a heretic. So that that's what they do. So when
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: it comes to any of these things, I'm not saying
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: it's real because I don't believe it. Like say, just
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: the worst of them, we can flat earth. If you
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: say that, you are now a crazy person. Instead of
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: like looking into it for yourself or believing that Jupiter
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: exists and actually looking through a telescope, they were all,
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: he's a crazy person. All they're a vaccine denier. And
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: it's like this is this is the modern day witch hunt.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, and you know what we.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: Talk about vampires. I'm loving it. This is great.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Seriously dying now oh yes.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: Oh yes, or unlive somehow, yes, that is some new
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: things that is happening. Oh and or you could be
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: a president who reminisced when being brought up about a
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: certain island in a certain place, you can go, oh
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: yeah and kind of smile and nothing happened.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: And you know what, it's funny that you bring that
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: island up, because my next thing down the rabbit hole
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: with that that particular book is I actually weaved the
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: vampire uh like, the thirteen blood lines into that Jewett City.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: I wasn't finished up with that when it was, so
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I put in the thirteen bloodlines, which your doctor, you're
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: gonna love. This traces back to the list of fallen angels,
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: their names. It actually goes back uh to I think
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: it's in Genesis one six. Maybe I don't quote me
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: on that, but it's right at the beginning. And so
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: those bloodlines are connected to the nephel well, the fallen Angels,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: which with the nephylene was the product of. So that
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: then we've already established that they were cannibals. So why
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: you know, why not if aenepheleine really existed and had
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: human DNA. That's where I believe that and trace where
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: vampirism comes from. It's that bloodline and it's encircled in
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: there So in my book Monster Hunters of America, which
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I think that was book fourteen or fifteen, Uh, they
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: have a new CIA director because the Monster Hunters are
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: actually worked for a covert uh you know, three a
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: three letter agency that goes out kind of like X files,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: but they go out and they, you know, established whether
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: this particular cryptid or monster is really a thing, and
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: then that's what their job is. They hunt for them.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: And so there's a vampire that is the last name
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: of Astor, which there is thirteen names that trace back
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: to the nephele eme Astor.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: That's such a what do you make of that? That
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: that temple that was on that island.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'm saying. You know, I'm gonna be
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Do you know who James Bartley is with the Cosmic Switchboard?
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: Oh, but there's so many names, So.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Check him out because he's as actually really oh my gosh,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: he's going to be writing the forward for my books,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: uh Soul Snatchers, which is the Reptilian agenda. And I
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: told him, he's, what do you want me to you know?
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: What's this going to be about? I told him basically,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: But I'm tying that into Epstein Island.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: James what's his last name, Bartley Bartley.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, he's actually seen them underground and he has all
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: the cosmic switchboard. He's a real deal. He's up there
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: with Laura Eisenhower and stuff. He's like there. They do
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: conferences across the country and stuff like that outside the country.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: By now, that's.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: Such a that's such a fun place to go to
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: that I haven't I haven't gone down that direction to
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: ask anybody about these kinds of things. And uh, awesome, thanks,
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: I got to get my pencil, no.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Problem, no problem. But anyway, so that in the Thirteen
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Bloodlines traced it back, so you know, of course they
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: implement the powers that be. They strategically place different people
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: in different sectors of the world to control. Uh So
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: that is kind of the direction of where the Jewett
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: City Vampire went into and ended. And and I very
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: much show, you know. And the thing that we got
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: to think about, like if per se this is like
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: a subspecies of being a human, a vampier. Okay, but
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: then they could they're one of their characteristics, especially according
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: to doctor Dennis Carroll, is that they are master shape
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: shifters and they're hypnotic, so it's not that maybe they're
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: maybe they're looking like they really are, but they can
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: perceive are the way we see them, like a reptilian
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: would a reptilian can they're not really shape shifting, they're
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: really they're really they're really controlling the perception that we
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: see them for the eyes that they're human. And I
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: think it's the same way with vampires, which brings me
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: to the connection. This is through my own research, is
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: that if you sit down and you write the characteristic
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: of reptilian agenda, if you sit down and you write
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: the characteristics on white paper, and you do that with
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: a vampire, and then you go over to the island
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: and you write the characteristics of what's coming in the files,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: guess what. They all have the same exact Yeah, we
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: just have different names for it.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: So when we're thinking vampires, we're thinking okay, so we're
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: thinking vampires because of the the the manipulation, the manipulation
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: that would go through. We're thinking of like pale skin
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: long things, bats flying around, But there might be something
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: more closely connected to like human, but like like but evil,
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: maybe like demonic and.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Like the farious was a demon, Yeah, Wilith was a demon.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: And guess what if you go back to Mesomitamia and
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Babylon and the teachings on the writings about Lilith, that's
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: what she did. She you know she would she took
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: night emissions from men, and she sucked blood. That is
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: a characteristics, that's a characteristic of a vampire. And it
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: just so happens. Even in Dracula, it's all about seduction.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: It's about seduction and low or yes, yeah it is.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: They leave that part in there because it's very good
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: because sex and violence cells, so they put that in.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: There's truth to that too. Just like David Wilcox said
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: on this really last thing that he surprisingly uh you know,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: decided to come on and say, is that and he's
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: been known to say this. This is why I love
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: David Wilcox. I'm just literally devastated about his passing. I'm
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: infuriated because I know that he I know he didn't
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: take his own life. There's just no way. He just
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: had happened to do a just a pop up kind
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: of you know, a little real But he was explaining
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: how the powers that be they have to they have
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: to play a game, they have to show us to
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: reveal their intentions, So what better way to do it?
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Through a vampire movie or you know what I mean,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: or the way that it's written, or a booking.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: You hear that all the time. So if you hear
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: three knocks on your door, you say who is it?
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: That's like inviting them in. They have to show you.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: And they put it into music too. I thought at
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: the beginning of that that it was all bs, and
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: when I started looking, it was actually quite shocking of
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: what this is like it got we were looking. I
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: don't know this music. I grew up. I'm forty six.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: So the last like my last pop stars are like
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: Christina Aguilera and whoever that was at that time, Pretty
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: Spears and I'm like, I was looking at one of
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: her videos. My girlfriend, I was like, this is really sexual.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: She's like, you should see the stuff today, and I
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: go what she shows me like a Nicki Minaj and
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: it is it is? It is low frequency, oh I
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: hyper sexual. The dumbing down. The children nowadays can't even
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: write anymore because they're all on AI. I don't know
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: what is going on. Curses is gone.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what's funny is my uh my middle
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: daughter just told my twelve year old grandson that she said,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: why are you talking like that? You're talking so monotone,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: And he's like, what do you mean? She said, as
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: a matter of fact, everybody at that age talks like
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: that because that's how AI's talking, and that's the influences.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, I gotta do a whole show on that.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: I gotta do a whole show on that. They were
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: they were talking about they don't there there was these
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: school teachers. Now They're like, I'm an eighth grade teacher,
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: and I got to tell you I have whatever, you know,
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: forty students whatever, and I can only tell you to
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: read in an eighth grade level. The rest are fifth
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: grade and below.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: I homeschooled my kids.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: So I'm doing that right now.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: That's a really intant thing to do.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: I'm doing it right now. So it's a lot of work.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: But in the end, you don't I'm a big fan
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: of that too. You don't tell them what to think.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: You teach them how to think, how you can second
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: guess what I say to you bring up a good
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: point of time, my good point of approach kids.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I want to skills exactly.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: There's always a line where you to go. Look I
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: have more experience than you. I've been born longer than you.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: So you have to listen to me. And later you
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: get to tell your kids. But for right now, please
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: put on the helmet or whatever. I'm not saying helmets,
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: but just listen to me. Now, clean your room is important.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: I agree. I totally agree. And we did book work,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: but we were very creative. Like we would do geography
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: and I'd give them maps and we'd go to Florida.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, tell me we're trying to go.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we did. When when we got to Florida, we
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: were doing scientific experiments with salt water. I mean, you know,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: you can just be so creative and there's just so
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: much stuff, and that's the hands on stuff is what
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: your kids will remember.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I want.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: To throw all the more.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: You kind of go through their interests. Like she really
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: likes puzzles, so she's having a hard time with like reading,
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: for example. Just think of it as a very complex puzzle,
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: and I started breaking it down pre fit somethings this
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: is and just kind of and now I mean, she
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: she's shooting higher than kids her age, and her mouth
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: has always been there, so that's just automatic.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: A couple of my grandkids are in the gifted program
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: and they do have critical thinking skills. So thank god.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: We gotta be careful with those programs too. I'm not
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying anything, but I've heard from stuff.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's kids homeschooled. But the one that's gifted, the
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: one that was talking monitor, But he's so talented, and
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: I don't think he'll be Okay. You know they have
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: to we have to build them resilient too. You know,
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: they have to learn how to decipher. Well, I'm not
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: gonna I'm just go this is what I tell him.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Just go along with what they say and know that
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: this isn't the way it is, especially when it comes
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: to history.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: Down write it down, Write it down, and write down
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: what you disagree with it about. Then go look it
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: up a multiple different angles and see if you're a writer.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: One of the main monster hunters, he's actually the described
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: of the tribe.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: Okay, cool kid? Oh wow, where do we go from here?
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: What's next?
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Well? You know I did a book on chupacabra. Yeah,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: you know, that was an interesting book.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: One of the questions Rob asked me last night is
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: you know writing all these books with all these different cryptids,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: has it changed your have you? Does it made you
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: more believe in cryptids more or do you know, maybe
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: not believe in them. But I think I don't think
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: that it's like any different on it if I believe
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: in them, because I do believe that they exist. But
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: I think for me, writing these books have made me
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: understand the origins a little bit more and I'm pretty
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: much an expert on all cryptids now, as well as
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: how legends and the evolution of handing things down evolve,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: and that's something that we need to be very very
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: aware of, like we were just talking about with the
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: vampire lore, you know what I mean, So.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: Like the of the Telephone game, you're trying to say
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: something of that.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Absolutely so. But when I went into research the Chip
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: of Cobra, and it's funny because the topics that I
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: don't have very much that I can find on are
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: my books that flow the best, because like Bigfoot was
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: hard because there's so much to research. And that's actually
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: what brought me into the cryptids was I think bigfootsich
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: is really cool and I have a lot of thoughts
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: about Bigfoot. But when it came to the chup of
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Coppra that was crypted that actually only surfaced in nineteen ninety.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it really was not.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Ivan Sanderson actually made reference to the chupacabra when he
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: was doing all of his you know who I'vean Sanderson is?
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: Right? Are you gonna? I know a lot of other people?
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: Do you know who James Hetfield is?
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: I do? Okay? Cool? All right, so everyone I don't
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: know all these people, and everyone always says, do you
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: know this person?
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: I go nope, Okay, Well you know you should google
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: him because he was I think he started out in
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: the nineteen thirties. So he's like an original gangster of
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: the cryptozoology before we called it cryptozoology. Actually think on
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Prime there's something called the Monster Files and so they
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: basically these archives went missing. And he was really cool
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: because he went out and explored. So he explored Bigfoot.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: He talked about, you know, a creature that he termed
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: as a chupicabra briefly, and I don't know where he
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: got that term, but that was probably in the forties
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: or fifties, but that was the only reference that I
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: could see. And then it turned out that it really
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: wasn't the Chewpicabra that we know like that happened in
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Puerto Rico. I mean, it's been known to frequent Mexico
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: and parts and basically Texas, Oklahoma, and maybe even Florida
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: and Louisiana. So there was a military base that was
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: in the heart of the jungle of Puerto Rico. And
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: so I am one of those researchers that believe, especially
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: like with dog Man and with Chewpacabra, those two cryptids
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: in general, I believe are the product of experimentation from
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: the military. And I do believe that the Chupoicabra was
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: a smorgasborg of you know, Jean Pool, because the a
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: couple of the doctors and that were scientists were actually
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: at that location. And when they finally closed that location down,
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: they ended up moving all the files and everything to Florida,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: which was where the Indian Grays were supposed to be.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: And I don't think that's a coincidence where Nixon went
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: down there and saw with Jackie Gleeson that Air Force
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: base right there, which was in South Florida outside of Miami.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: But back to Puerto Rico, you know, they did some
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: really horrible things to the people in Puerto Rico. They
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: that's where Agent Orange originated. That was the first experimentation
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: was all over Puerto Rico. And when you start getting
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: into the history of Puerto Rico, I really feel bad
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: for the people there because they don't have any rights,
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: but yet we control and I just think it's really
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: a messed up situation. So what a better place to
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: go and plant a military base in the heart of
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: a jungle where nobody's going to say a damn thing
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: to you because they're at their mercy already. And I
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: do believe that they took probably five different My research
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: brought me to five different specimens for the gene pool,
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: and I think it was reptilian, alien, gray, human, possible vampire,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: if not a vampire, bat, and some other I don't
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: know what the other thing is. I don't know, but
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: they're very vicious and they stand about three foot tall
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: and there they are cannibalistic, and that's why I do
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: believe they have I think that there really is a
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: species of a vampire. So I'm one a vampire, but
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: another researcher would probably really indicate that there was at
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: least a vampire back because of the way that the
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: markings are on the bodies and stuff. But I find
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: it interesting that these chup of cabras just out of
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: the blue showed up in the nineties and then within
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: a couple of years they were seen in Texas. So
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: that thing that was in Texas where that veterinaryan you know,
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: you know, stuffed it and it was out that. I
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: don't think that when people think of a chupa cabra,
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: some people think of that that's not the kind of
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: cup oficabra I'm talking about it. I'm talking about the
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: and I think that was probably maybe another genetic experiment,
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: because if you look at it, it doesn't look right,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: you know, you know what I'm talking about.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: Hair, I'm gonna pull some pictures there. You can kind
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: of direct me here.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so the cupicabra that I wrote about was the
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: one that stood bipedal and had the the spikes on
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: the back. Yes, yes, yeah, I.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: Looked at the because I knew the words. I knew
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: the word troupa and I know the word copra, so
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: it means the sucking goat.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Right, and they do. And I don't know if there's
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: any validation to it. But I find it interesting that
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: they prefer goats because it makes me wonder is there
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: some kind of an antibody in the goat's blood that
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: they prefer. They will suck the blood out of anything.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: But what I really find interesting is you've never seen
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: a report of them doing that to a human. It's
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: always animals, which I find interesting. So, but the tupe
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: of cabra is a pretty vicious creature. In my book,
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: I had them stow away and you know, on different
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: trucks or you know military, uh, you know, cargo and
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: stuff like that, and that's how they distribute it out,
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: so they would have to pro create. But you got
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: realize the people that were that were when I really
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: did the real research on it, with people that were
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: doing the gene pools back in the nineties. That's when
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: they started doing it, and they started winning all these
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: you know, pull prizes and stuff like you know, Harvard
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: and from Harvard and.
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: Stuff when they did Dolly, when Dolly came up.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: It was even before that. But when you go back, yeah,
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: when you go back into the names of those doctors,
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: you can trace that lineage to Plumb Island, which my
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: first book, my second book, unleashed.
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: Was the plumb Island? Where's that at again, isn't it?
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: So let me just refresh you so when so in
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: my first book in Monster Hunters, Rise of the Cryptids,
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: the protagonist is the monster Hunter's grandmother, Dianna Robertson. She
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: was born in Germany right during she was commissioned by
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Adolf Hitler, so it comes from not the German roots.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: And it's still four years later, it's still always on
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: the top fifty. The first two books are always the
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: top best seller number, you know, ten two whatever. And
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: then when she flees to America to give intel to
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: the os I, which was the original three letter agency
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: before the CIA, because this is during the end of
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: World War Two, then they commissioned her because she's telling
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: all these atrocities that are taking place over in Germany
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: with Hitler. And then when she comes to be commissioned
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: with the OSI, her first cases Roswell, she realizes that
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: they're all in cahoots together because when the world when
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: the war ended, there was a couple people that were tried,
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: you know, in imprisonance. So the majority of them that's
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: where Project paper Clip comes in.
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is my old this is now we're now
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: we're in my ballpark of a little bit of stuff. Yeah,
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: it's out about uh uh. If you I want you
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: guys to go back and look at the Nurnberg Trials
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: and see what is actually written in there, and then
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: go ahead and connect that to twenty twenty and tell
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: me if you still feel like you are you are free?
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: And then or was it just a dog and pony show?
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: And now just shut up and take it?
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, that's exactly what that was.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, I you know, after doing so, you know
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: what's so wild about my When I write?
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: I love the enthusiasm like world.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: I don't come up. Sometimes I'll write ten to twelve
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: hours a day and I don't come out of the
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: house for a week sometimes because I have to do
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: that to focus and just block everything else out. But
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: when I was writing Unleashed, when I finished that book
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: that I can't make this up. Ten minutes after I
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: wrote the last word, it was a lie. And it
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: was the thirteenth, And I remember that day because it
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: was my niece's birthday. And I opened my laptop and
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: got on X and the way that I ended my
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: book was very similar to what had just transpired, and
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: it was when Trump got attempted assassination within ten minutes
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: of finishing writing that book, and the last chapter was
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: the JFK assassination, and there was the correlation of what
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: that was behind, which I do believe it had to
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: do with them king mind control.
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: But anyway that you are, you are, you are beautifully
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: all over the map. It's fantastic than I could grab
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: a certain a couple of straws and you're like, oh
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: yeah yeah, pop Project, Paper Lip, the Nazis the rock
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: ye yeah, yeah, the Russians took their own yeah yah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: I got you yeah yeah. And then you go, uh
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: but you were thinking, like you say that Puerto Rico
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: with the thing. I was like, okay, what about the
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: Loan Star take? And then Lime disease that's also another
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: you know, yeah the.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: Lime disease came from Plum Island. Do you know that right?
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: I think I've heard that, Yes, I've heard.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: That's what my point was why I took it to
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: Plumb Island. So when I traced these uh particular scientists
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: and stuff that were winning these prizes, you could see
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: the origins tracing back to were they Nazi and they're
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: not doing anything. I mean, so if you you know,
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: I know that seems wild to a lot of normies.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: You know, sure they're really making these like creatures up. Really,
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: I mean Frankenstein was only like how many years ago
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: that they and they really were doing things like that
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: back then. So why wouldn't you think that they're doing
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: something even more nefarious? And they were doing it during
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: World War two and they haven't stopped.
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah now, and then you're also starting writing this book
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: about Tolpus, Tulpus, taulpus, and like when you so basically
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: a toolpa is, guys, is like when you think about
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: it enough that it actually becomes reality. And that's so
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: why not? So what they can do is they can
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: do things like put that seat in your brain and say,
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: you know, the troop of Cobbra exists. Look, it's here, blue,
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: It's there, it's there. How did that? You get a couple,
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: you know, people from small towns and border towns calendar
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: and the next thing you know, they do exist.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: I do believe that troop of Cobbra is an experiment
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: gone wild. I do believe our biggest uh so a
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: tulpa is an individual that comes to manifestations. So if
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: you go on a collective consciousness of a being an entity,
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: we would consider that an aggrigre. And I think the
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: number one aggrigres that we are seeing today are the
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: alien grays. And I got told Rob last night, how
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: many versions of an alien gray do we have these days?
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: It's evolved.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: It's evolved, you know, And now everybody's talking about it,
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: and the thing about Tulpa's, things about Eggrigor's, the things
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: about anything manifestation or life us whatever. The more attention,
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: which is our currency, is where it grows.
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: So have you done anything? It would be something that
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: you might want to look into. I just want to.
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: I would love to see what you could make of
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: it if, if it ever you know, tickles your tizzle
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: or makes you excited. What do you know about the
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: alosh a l u x Have you heard of them?
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: You mean? No? Go ahead? And like, I know what
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: lush is, but not the.
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: A loosh A loosh is a is a mayan. It's
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: like a conjured being to protect corn. And they are
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: definitely here. They're like a chair up entity or that
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: we also refer to as the alushes a l u
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: e X and whenever they put the train Maya through here,
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: there was a lot of them being seen. Uh, they
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: come out of the caves. They make people sick, they
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: protect the corn. They like to throw rocks that had
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: rock stared at me in the forest here or in
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: the jungle here. It is one of those ones that
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: maybe something that would like something you could be in
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: just give you like a little maybe in ten years
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: you're like, oh, that was something he said.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'll have to write that one down. I'm going
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: to write that down.
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: Yes, it's words, So.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: I I am going to so I'm going to finish
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: this real quick because of the back to the chup
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: of Cabra. So I'm sorry. You know, it's basically, you know,
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: just like where the m RNA shock came from. It
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: was just the mixture of genes that was the whole
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: spaces of that. But they were they were playing around
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: with it back in the nineties and so when I
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: traced it back to you know, possibilities that connections of
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: Plum Island, that's exactly what they were doing. And that's
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: where the lime disease came from. This particular scientist and
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: I can't or it was a Nazi scientist. I can't.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: I think it was Goebel, but I'm not positive. So
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: he his his forte was bioweaponry and he loved insects,
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: so he injected this line disease into these ticks because
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: the what they're thinking was, well, if we were in
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: war and you know, we were feeling compromised, then we
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: could just go drop all these insects or ticks off
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: into a place where they you know, like the military
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: was like in the open field, and then they would
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: start getting attacked by these tics. And that's exactly the
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: reason why it's called Lime disease. It was Lime, New
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: York where they experimented with these.
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: Oh okay, that's where that's count not the name.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: So why would we think that that's so bizarre that
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: those same kind of doctors and scientists would go create
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: a creature like a chup of cobber. Why do we
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: think that's so strange because that was what six seventy
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: years ago. You know that they're going to keep going,
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: especially because there was so much of a big deal
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: about these awards and these prizes of these scientists of
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: making these breakthroughs with the gene pool and different you know,
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know all this scientific stuff and was I
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: had it in front of me written down, But that
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: was basically the beginning the onset of.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: R and a oh god, you you're awesome, the time
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: of m RNA oh, because that was that was the
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: one for me where I want to wait a minute.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: I'm not a scientist, but I do know that RNA
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: is the building blocks of DNA. Yeah, is what I
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: made of and you're going to use that to cure this.
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: That doesn't sound right, right.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: So I go back into the nineties and I started
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: researching scientists in general. That's when I started coming across that,
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: which just added my fuel to my fire of my
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: theory on cubicabbres already. So why wouldn't you think that
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: you could? You know, because I already believe that's what
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: they do with dog man. I believe that there is
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: a gene a hypersonization of the dog man and human.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: While we're seeing so many different types, I.
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: Think there's I've talked about this a little bit at length.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: I think there's kind that are like possibly from outer space.
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: According to Jody, he thinks they're possibly a down spacecraft
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: and they know about that. I think there's ones that
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: could be here for a very long time, a Nubis
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: like and there's the ones that you're talking about, which
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: is some type of hybridization of these And I don't know,
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: it's gotten scary, but I'm enjoying it. It's it's a
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: very interesting time in history, isn't it.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, And you know, you have to remember about our government.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: If they can weaponize something, they're going So if they
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: came across these creatures that were dog man, try to
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: weaponize them everything.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: Give some nunchucks to a woodchuck. That's that's what I do. Yes,
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so I looked at it wasn't Gebels was
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: the Minister of propaganda. So you're probably thinking of Joseph Mangala.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's who it was.
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: That's who it was, right right, Because there's two of them.
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: There's two Josephs, and they were both awful. He liked
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: to work with twins and all that kind of stuff.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: You got to remember, that's just what we know of.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: Right, right, right, right, right right, Because they were really
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: into a cult too. They were really.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's really fascinating. I've said this couple
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: of times about my process, but when I'm doing these
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: the hunting for tolpas Uh when I started, so you know,
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: I wrote, I got these books, but I didn't really
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: know what the order was going to be. I knew
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: the first four, and then I knew Tulpa's was going
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: to be last, and I just kind of filled in
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: like a puzzle blank and just I want to write
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: about Vampire's Day. So here I'm going to pull this
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: one out. But when it comes to the Tulpas, most
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: people don't realize, well, some people do realize Hitler was
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: very much into the occult, very much, but a lot
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: of people don't realize that he was also fascinated with Toulpas.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: So it's like a full circle that goes into the
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: one of.
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: What that's called. I would love because I actually read, write,
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: and speak German, and I'm probably one of the few
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: people that you've ever interviewed that actually knows what Hitler's saying,
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: you know what, where he's yelling and screaming and all
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: these things.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: For me, I love that.
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: Little He's just like, you know what I've done for you?
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: I have bled for you, What the things I have
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: done for you? Now when you go in there and
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: vote you vote for my party, and that's what he says,
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: so you don't.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: Also, he also tried to warn the world that the
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: Western uh, the Western civilis, you know, the United States
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: basically were cannibalistic pedophiles.
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: I got definitely cut that word out.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Well, that's yeah. A lot of people say it's where
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: they wanted him gone.
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: Really interesting and then the really interesting thing is too.
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: There's a famous video of him riding down the road
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: on the back of a car when it did the
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: first highway in Germany, the first olib I know exactly.
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: I've been there a million times. I've been it's because of.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: Him, probably really enjoy rises the Cryptis because there is
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: a lot of German history in that one.
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: Without him being a butt heead, which is like a
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: really understated fact. And to say though my daughter wouldn't
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: exist because of him, me being in the military, went
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: to Germany, met my wife, so uh in a weird way,
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: but that isn't it the weird thing about life that
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: such darkness can come something such as so beautiful as
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: a child. But it's just a weird way looking at
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: the angle of the world. But I think that's what
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: you're trying to do. Whether people agree with you or not.
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: You you've admitted openly that there's facts mixed in with
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: your own ideas of fiction, so.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: That I courage to take off with that and to
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: formulate what their own beliefs are right, their.
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: Own stories, write their own thing, be creative with it.
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: But at the same time, if someone asks you about
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: the facts, you can say, this is what I found.
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: I enjoy that immensely. He's like, this is what I found.
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: I looked into it. But at the same time know
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: that this is also an artistic attempted that I'm enjoying.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: I'm just using the history as a through line, as
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: a foundation and all my chest pieces upon.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I've had a lot of people when
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: I first when they when the books first started coming out,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: was you know, I really love how adventurous this is
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: and how you're exploring. So I ended up putting under
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: the category you pick three on Amazon. So the number
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: one is historical fiction, exploration and discovery. And it's a
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: best selling series because there's sometimes I have twenty of
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: the books on best selling. It goes changes throughout every day,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: and uh, but of course what's interesting is Rise of
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: the Cryptids has been up there with the boy and
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: the stripe of chamis like maybe right underneath or right above.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: It just just depends on what day it is, and
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: it's long standing. People like that's the one probably my
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: number one book. And then Unleashed and that's when a
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: when she comes over here and it's got Roswell and
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: the MK mind control and the day, you know, the
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: whole twenty year span, the White House incident, on and
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: on and on. Uh. It takes you back to what
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: the sixties were like in the fifties and the forties,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah you should. There's so many the cool thing about
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: the way in which you or the thing that the
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: things that interest you. There's never any closed doors. It's like,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: if anything, you're kicking them open. And a weird in
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: your own way, which is very unique. Like you you know,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: we can go into like the music people like with
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: Charles Manson whatever, I can't remember something something studios out there,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: that's some weirdness. There's just so much weirdness that it's
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: been covered. And the strange thing people think like this
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: is a very dangerous time. It really isn't. People have
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: like a weird memory thing where they don't remember in
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: the nineteen sixties, universities were having bomb threats and bombs
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: dropped them every day guys, right yah, taking them a
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: chemistryabs and in social labs all throughout the with the
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: Vietnam War, and people got it was that was a
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: crazy time. And now, I that's the worst thing ever.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: You know what I think it is the perception of
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: thinking that because everybody's in their comfort ZONEITHM, people were
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: getting out on the street and protesting normally not being
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: paid to protest. Oh not to.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: That's fine with me. I'm open for all of that.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: I'm overing for I'm open for any and all that.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: And okay, ancient provocatoris wait a minute, Wait a minute.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: We can't go to church, but we can we can
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: go out and protest about this site right right, there's
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: palettes of bricks here too. How did that happen?
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: Right exactly? I you know, I just find it fascinating.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was like people weren't so material It's
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: just so much materialism right now.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: It was it was it was an intelligence test.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: And I think people are just hosted, that's what they
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: want to They can't even hardly get in the car
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: and come home and make dinner and PLoP on the bed, munch.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: Let's get out on the street and protest something. You know,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: I was thinking. It really bothers me, the files that
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: came out. I mean, because my mother. I'm a human
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: being first, but a mother and a grand mother, and
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: you know, I just love kids and I just love people,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: and it makes me so sad to think that we
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: as a human race are just going through the motions
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: knowing that the powers that be are this satanic vampires
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: basically they are. They're cannibalistic in every definition of what
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: the vampires are. That is basically what they are, and
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: they're ruling us and we are just you know, there's
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: nothing we're doing about it. It's just really sad.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think. I think. I think, like I'm going
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: to come from a very Eastern mysticism point of view.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: I think if you look inside and fix inside first,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: the world and the outside changes, and when people see that,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: the darkness will then't present itself right in front of
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: your face and there will be nothing that can hide
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: them anymore, and then it will be right there for
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: the taking. That's my opinion.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely do believe the leveling up on a consciousness.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: Definitely, we are we are.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I believe that these the topic of agrigors
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: is so important because I believe that when you really
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: understand what an agrigor is, the powers that be use
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: those to control the masses. It's it's like, it's kind
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: of like one of the biggest agrigors that I can
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: think of is religion. It is deities. It is like,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: for example, Jesus Christ was Jesus Christ, he walked the earth,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: he was the son of God and a man u.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: And then we've got the Jesus Christ today for to
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: the last two thousand years that is white, and his
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: characteristics are a little bit different than what the original
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: Church presented him as. So basically, when you when we
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: talk about Christ, and that wasn't even real name. It
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: was Christ, but I can't remember how you pronounced that.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: But.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: Well, no, not a zoo A zoo A zoo is
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: the pronunciation. But now we've got this fabricated copy of
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: the man and of God, and that is an my friend,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: that's an agrigor. And so people are putting their energy,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: putting their devotion, and their systems are changing. So they
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: might not go, uh, pick up and steal something because
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: thats influenced them to make a different decision. Do you
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: see what I mean?
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: There's the thing that really is, and then there's the mine.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: Then they take that people then follow it, and then
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: they change it through time into something that is actually
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: not then actually might be the opposite of what originally was.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's an invertedst that's exactly That's exactly what the
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: case is. And and you know, and I think I
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: do believe, and you know, then you got the uh,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: the I think the most popular aggrigres right now, which
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: are the with the age of disclosure, They have been
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: controlling that narrative for quite some time. And I do
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: believe that the alien grays are a typical our typical
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: egg gore. And it's they're getting bigger and bigger. Now
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: there's tall one, short ones, fat one, skinny ones. They
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: got weird looking faces. They those one's got a weird nose.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: There's all kinds of variations because through the aggri gores
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: and when it's present and so we're giving this all
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: of our energy. Who isn't talking about disclosure? Who isn't
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: talking about what are the alien grays. Everybody's got a
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: different idea, and all the energy, all the attention, all
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: of our currency is going towards that all these people
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: are dying, you know, and that's making it have more
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: negative emotion. I'm pretty upset about David will Willcock. That
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: one really got me. I'm I'm infuriated, and that does.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: It takes a lot to make me angry. I'm just
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: furious because I don't I know that he didn't kill himself.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: I know that didn't happen. And if he did shoot himself,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: that people forget MK. Mind controls a very real thing,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: you know. So I just in my in my spirit,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: I know that did not That isn't what he did.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: And so it's just it's so through the egg, you know,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: through that, it just it's like a loose and people
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: feet off of that, you know, the nega of energies
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: if you want to call them aggregres or whatever. So
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: and then we got this disclosure coming in and you know,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: it's not I don't know, I don't know when it's
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: going to come in, but it's like feels like it's
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: been on the brink for ten years, don't you thinking
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: disclosure disclosure disclosure, and it's like, why are we looking
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: to a government that's been lying to us all along
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: about Roswell and everything else. Why do we even care
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: what they say? Why does it have to go through
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: those proper channels? The people, the people, the abductees, the
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: people that have been seeing them and witnessing and experiencing them,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: and those are the ones that are ushering the real disclosure.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: We get the government weigh too much credibility and too
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: much you know.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: So I've heard of his name, but like I said,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: there's so many things to keep on in the in
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: this world. So he was a he was a he
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: was a uh media personality.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: Fifty he was he just turned fifty two years old.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: He uh, he was. He was sound God, he was
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: on Gaya. He was uh. He actually did call out
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: people with the COVID. He was very much outspoken. And
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: he was talking about the last thing that he came
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: on I think just a couple of days ago and said,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: I thank God every day that I'm here on earth
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: to live another day. And he was basically talking about
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: how frightening it was with the disclosure, with the scientists dying.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: It was in his last words, I think, and it's
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: quite scary. I just know that.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: So it said that, Yeah, we've got to make sure
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: we don't say that's stupid word, but very much it
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: can pass away from a self inflicted gunshot wound. Yeah,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: Able the twentieth. Why April the twentieth, Yeah, that April
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: the twentieth is an insane datement. Okay, because down here
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: in Mexico there was a gunman who also people like
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: a Canadian lady from the top of the pyramids. Yes,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: oh that happened. Yes, what else happened on April twentieth
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: Hitler's birthday? Yeah, yeah, Columbine that I didn't know. That
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: was two days ago.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was in Colorado where I asked side of
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: his home, supposedly and.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: Stead after his live stream, his last live stream.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: I know. And that's why I don't believe it and
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: people don't understand the evolution of MK mind control. Those
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: were incredibly painful, incredibly inhumane, and I think a lot
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: of people are under the control of that. With five
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: G with the music, with the frequencies. Wow, I don't
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: know if you're experiencing it or if any of the
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: viewers are experiencing it, but for the last year, I
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: have had the most high pitched ringing in my ears.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: Sometimes it's so unbelievable, and I think it's just I
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: think it's a good thing. I think my frequency, my
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: frequency is is going higher, and maybe I'm Maybe it's
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: why I can critically think because I'm not being controlled
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: by what a lot of people are being controlled by.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: I definitely think a lot of people are under mind
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: control right now.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's the music, Okay. The music I
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: like is you said you like jazz, so that means
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: you're okay. I don't mean that in a in a
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: negative connotation When I mean that. What I mean is
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: that you like music that that is in your face.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: It's art. You're actually you're you're you're in the music
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: which is from me rock and metal and classical music.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: But the music that most people like is some droney
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 4: ship where it's talking about you know, my boobs and
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: my money and my cars and my hot way, and
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: it's all day every day. It has a four to
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: four beat. It's a hypnotic thing that's just broadcasted and
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: people go, isn't it so good? Isn't it like? It's not?
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: But you know, what I always my one of my
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: practices and my kids will all tell you this, and
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: my grandkids too, is they you know, like they'll they'll
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: be fallen asleep to some kind of music and I
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: do my smudging at night, and so I would go turner,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: I would turn classical music on and go smudge, and
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: they some a couple of women would wake up.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: What is that?
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: And it would be like it was breaking some kind
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: of power over them or something, you know, And I'm like,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: that's exactly what you're going to be listening to when
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: you go back to sleep, or you're not listening to nothing.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: You know, That's just the way it's going to be.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: But I think they turned on classical.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: For them, Yeah, I think they. I think during COVID
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: that was for real. There was like what you're saying
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: about the break the waves going out. They can to
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: think about the whole air around you is not electrified, right,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 4: there's information and data passing through. We don't have the
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: long terms effects on it this, We don't, We really don't,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: but we can tell you that the devi G stuff, definitely,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: short wave radiation is not necess really good for you.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: And and you were you and I talking through Wi
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: Fi right now?
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: Right, well, you know what I did. I don't know
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: how true this is because I had time to research
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: it further across reference it. But I heard that Wi
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  Speaker 2: Fi the Internet. The Wi Fi doesn't even go through
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  Speaker 2: Wi Fi doesn't even go through the Internet. It or
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  Speaker 2: where it was the other way around. It goes from
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  Speaker 2: under the oceans. That's how we're being connected right now.
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  Speaker 2: That's how our stream is being connected is through the
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  Speaker 2: cables that are under the oceans.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the cables for.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, yea, cables are under the ocean.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, that's for sure, that's for sure. Yes, I agree that.
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  Speaker 4: I thought you meant my brain went that the Wi
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  Speaker 4: Fi bounces off me into the ocean.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I don't understand exactly what that was.
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  Speaker 2: It was just like one of the little memes like
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say that and go back and check that out.
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  Speaker 4: Literally talk myself like I'm listening like intently, but there's
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  Speaker 4: not a part of my brain on. I listen to
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  Speaker 4: da maybe she's about to drop a nuclear bottom of
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  Speaker 4: information that you need to look into. And I was like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: the cables.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, of course.
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  Speaker 4: Of course they do. It's a. It's a it's a
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  Speaker 4: magical world. I'm glad to be here part of it.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm so glad you came by to talk to
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  Speaker 4: me all the time. DA, could you still you? I
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  Speaker 4: was fantastic. Could you please tell me where people can
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  Speaker 4: find your books.
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  Speaker 2: My books can be found on Amazon. You can get
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: them at Barnes and Nobles, jessicp. Beth expand the distribution
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  Speaker 2: if you're in north of Kentucky. They're in a couple
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  Speaker 2: of restaurants and a couple of bookstores locally, and sometimes
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  Speaker 2: they're even in libraries. You can people. A lot of
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  Speaker 2: people don't realize how resourceful the library is. You can
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  Speaker 2: go ask for my books and they'll probably order them
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  Speaker 2: and you can read them through the library.
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  Speaker 4: I can't believe there's people still at the library. Is
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: there's people there's library still?
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. I've got a couple of authors that
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  Speaker 2: really use the library as a big resource to uh
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  Speaker 2: and they do really well. Chad Chad Lewis is one
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  Speaker 2: of them, and he is a He is the master
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: of the Beast of Ray Road is in Wisconsin. Chad Lewis,
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  Speaker 2: I've talked.
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  Speaker 4: To the gentleman who owns a property there, but not
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  Speaker 4: Chad Lewis.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he actually is the author though, and he's
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  Speaker 2: big on Offman and stuff like that, but he utilizes
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  Speaker 2: I've learned a lot from him. I just don't have
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  Speaker 2: time to go into the libraries, but it's something I
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  Speaker 2: would like to do from time to time. It's kind
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: of like doing a show, but you're just doing it,
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  Speaker 2: and you can do book signings and stuff there too.
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  Speaker 4: Now you telling me that my first thought about libraries
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  Speaker 4: is that we should actually protect them, like really hard,
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  Speaker 4: because it might be the last vestibule of information because
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  Speaker 4: I believe in a dead internet theory. I don't know
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  Speaker 4: about you. I remember going on Google in two thousand
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: and six and a lot more information than you can
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: find today. It's it's like it's kind of been streamlined
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  Speaker 4: to make you think a certain way.
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  Speaker 2: It's very absolutely and you know yourself. It's me in
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: having my books, and my books are also on Kindle,
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  Speaker 2: so if you have like free Kindle, you can read
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: them for free. And sometimes I run promotions too. I
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: would prefer you to buy the paper back, but you know,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: if you want to get a quick fix, you can
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: do that. But you know, I being an author, and
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  Speaker 2: because I like the tangible form the best, and I
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  Speaker 2: just there's something about opening a book and reading.
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  Speaker 4: That just the smell of the paper.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, but you know, it's important to have tangible copies.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: As you can see, I have a pretty good library myself,
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  Speaker 2: because we if everything was digital and say the grid
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  Speaker 2: goes down, we aren't gonna have anything. We're not gonna
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  Speaker 2: have anything.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but we're not gonna have anything no matter what.
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  Speaker 4: So there's a I like I told you I didn't
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  Speaker 4: go off grid. I do have stuff that is off grid.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, there's a part that I don't want
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  Speaker 4: to fear what they're doing, because I think that's what
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: they want.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think I think for me, it's basically
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  Speaker 2: like my herbs. Like if I really had to cross
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  Speaker 2: reference something like if I had to make a polsterics
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: or something, I might not have it off the top
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: of my head, and I normally would go online. That's
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  Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. I want. I want to have
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  Speaker 2: a tangible book that I can look up.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: It's just good to have reference with that because eventually,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: you know, if they do everything digital, then it's controlled
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: and you don't you know like there's like the currency
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: exactly exactly.
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  Speaker 4: So if you can get a chance, guys, go out
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: there grab a book, and if you do, go ahead
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 4: and get a shout out. I love baby. I thought
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 4: our Facebook is on to say hello, thanks for the book.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: I'm on Instagram and TikTok and Facebook. I would love
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: to see everybody.
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  Speaker 4: Please send me all those links. Please send me those links,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 4: and then I'll go and find your author link on Amazon.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: That way people can click.
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  Speaker 2: You'll do that for me, Okay, all right, it's been
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  Speaker 2: a pleasure, it's been fun. Thanks so much for having
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: me on.
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  Speaker 4: All right, guys, we are the I we are aware.
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  Speaker 4: I love you all and enjoy yourself.