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Catholic Bishop EXPOSES Vatican’s Deep Globalist Ties · Man in America Podcast

• 0:02
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Hullhouse. So today, I'll be sitting down with bishop Athanasius Schneider, who is a Catholic bishop from Kazakhstan. Now I first saw him on Bannon's war room where he was speaking out against the CCP's infiltration into the Vatican, which I think is an incredibly important topic. So where are we talking about the CCP's influence in The Vatican and the religious circles around the world, the global great reset agenda, but more importantly, why he thinks the great reset's going to fail and what we can do about it.
• 0:37
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• 1:00
  Speaker 2: Let's go
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  Seth Holehouse: ahead and dive right into this interview. So, Bishop Snyder, thank you so much for joining me today. It's it's such an honor to have you here.
• 1:11
  Speaker 2: You're welcome. So
• 1:14
  Seth Holehouse: there's a lot that for us to kind of get into in today's discussion, but I think that the the fundamental issue that I see is the the church in crisis, you know, especially globalist agenda has rolled out. And we've seen a lot of the churches that have played a role that you could only say is negative in how they've been guiding people, especially some of the actions and things coming from the the Vatican. In your opinion, what do you think are the factors behind the the direction that the church has taken? What what do you think is driving some of these these decisions?
• 1:55
  Speaker 2: You are referring to the decisions to the COVID issue, concretely, or in in general.
• 2:02
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. I think, well, it it it's more in in general. We've seen, you know, obviously, the COVID and the vaccine and, you know, the pope, you know, saying that it's our you know, the the moral obligation, right, to to be vaccinated, basically. That but also the, you know, the Vatican becoming, you know, more cozy with the CCP. I mean, is this the the bigger picture of of what you see happening in the
• 2:26
  Speaker 2: the church? Yes. Yes. Well, the Catholic I can only speak about the Catholic church. The Catholic Church is passing through a tremendous crisis, a spiritual crisis since, I would say, at least sixty years since the Second Vatican Council, where many church leaders leadership, including some high ranking clergy in the Vatican, they started a policy which I would say this tendency towards the secular issues.
• 3:13
  So to give a primacy to the temporal aspects, the detriment of the spiritual and the eternal aspect, which is the core of the Catholic Church of the Gospel. Christ came to bring us eternal life and to save our soul for eternity. Christ did not came to save our body only, which is anywhere mortal, But the the soul is immortal and to to open us the way to eternal happiness with God in eternal life. And so, and this is the mission of the church to bring to all humanity, the graces of Christ, the invitation to the faith and to help them really to achieve eternal life. This is really the core.
• 4:17
  But unfortunately, there is now since decades a tendency to occupy the church more and primarily with the temporal affairs, with health issues, developing of the body, and and then also to involve politics. You mentioned this, the issue with China and other aspects, climate change, and so these are issues which are temporal in politics. And so this is a tendency, I would say, the anthropocentrism, and so to put the issues of man in the first place, and God and Christ became ultimately in some way the secondary aspect. And then the other is the issue of secularism, that the politics of politicization of the gospel and of the church. Of course, the church must sometimes address some issues, which is important for social life of people, because we are not living in the moon, but here on earth.
• 5:44
  But nevertheless, it should be subordinated secondary to the spiritual issues. And then also, I think the church in the last decades, the Catholic church was especially since the pontificate of Pope Francis too much preoccupied to be recognized by the powerful of this world. So to be recognized by the powerful ones, and so by the United Nations organizations, the powerful social media, the mainstream ideologies. These are the powerful of this world. And and then, of course, China, One of the world powers politically and economically, without doubt.
• 6:42
  And so this is, to my opinion, a weakness of the Vatican and of special Pope Francis to yield this to be in some way to be to wanted to be recognized by the powerful of this world. And so the lack of the Christian courage and independence of the powerful. And to say even to the powerful, to remind them the the duty to respect true human dignity and true freedom. And and therefore, this is to my opinion, always the deals which the Vatican did with the communist China party, a very weakness and a lack of courage and the obligation to to confess Christ and to and to remind the powerful also of their duty to respect human dignity.
• 7:57
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. Absolutely. And as it relates to China, I mean, know, we know that the CCP is, you know, really communism fundamentally is very atheist. It's it's it's anti god. It's anti faith.
• 8:09
  And though they allow religious beliefs in China, you know, we know that it's it's really only the state sanctioned version and that, you know, there's a a huge persecution of underground Christians, you know, Catholics, you know, Uighur Muslims, Falun Gong. There's extensive religious persecution there. And the fact that the the Vatican has become so close with China is is very alarming. And I know that there's been discussion of secret deals, you know, between the CCP and the Vatican. What do you think is that the know, you're so you're saying that the Vatican is eager to please the powerful.
• 8:49
  Right? The the elites, the the the CCP, etcetera. What do you think is behind this the con the control mechanism? Like, what's happening? Is it that is it that the the CCP has bought off people?
• 9:04
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• 11:52
  Speaker 2: I have not the details, informations, but were there which deals they did, but on upon my observation of the Catholic church, I am Catholic bishop, and I also lived in my youth, in childhood, under the communist dictatorship in The Soviet Union. I grew up there, and I know this is system of this state atheism and totalitarian control of all aspects of human life. This I experienced myself and my parents, of course. And now I think my my feeling is that there was no bribery or no such extraordinary reasons why the Vatican yielded to this, to please the China power. There could be a wrong.
• 12:59
  There could be, for me, maybe two reasons. The first, a wrong perception, a wrong method, even by good faith to help the Catholic the Catholics in China who who are in some way deprived by a full freedom and to issue to to resolve the problem is the bishops. So, you know, the China Catholics, there are two parts. The so called clandestine underground Catholic church with their bishops and the official patriotic church, which since the '58 separated themselves officially from the Vatican, from the Holy See, and started to be an independent Catholic church under the party control. And so this is contrary to the essence of Catholicism because to be Catholic is to be united with the with the Sea Of Peter with Rome.
• 14:02
  And now but in the last decades, many of these official patriotic bishops recognize that this is not Catholic, but they are living, and tried to be recognized by the pope. And the pope gave them in discrete manner recognition. So they were recognized by the power, by the party, and then also in in the discrete manner by the pope. And then so this was a confusion. There are still the underground church faithful always to the pope, but not recognized by the by the party.
• 14:44
  And the Vatican wanted to make a union with with these groups and make a deal with the government so that substantially they yielded that a party can choose the the the candidates to the episcopacy. And, of course, on the paper is that the pope can have some veto in the lastly, but recently, it was an appoint appointment, and they did not observe the veto rite of the Holy See. So we already look were experienced that they did not observe correctly the this con convention. So this was one of the intentions of the Vatican. The other, I would say, is more worldly poll poll politic method.
• 15:44
  So to make at any cost re a peace with governments. So to be simply and this is for me maybe the deeper reason. This is wrong political method of the Holy See. Of course, sometimes to help the Catholics there, but to my opinion, it is a wrong method to make at any cost freedom of peace and with atheistic in in, say, materialistic government. And it is better to protect in other ways discreetly, the underground church, and then the church will be more powerful.
• 16:38
  But since in the moment when the church is under party control, the church becomes weak. And from the point of view of spiritual, this will be a weak church, a weak Catholic church under the control of the party. The history of the church showed all always the same. When the church was independent from the government was always strong, and this matters.
• 17:10
  Seth Holehouse: I see. So you're you're seeing that the opposite is happening where the church is becoming more integrated with the government and is becoming more of a a tool of the government instead of an independent Yes. Spiritual body.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Exactly. A tool. Mhmm.
• 17:29
  Seth Holehouse: I see. I see. You mentioned that you, back in under the Soviet control, that you were involved in the Catholic church there, your family was as well. What was that like for you? What are some of the lessons that you took away, and what are some of the experiences you had of of really trying to practice a true faith under a communist system?
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Yes. Well, we lived in underground church. My parents were activists of the Catholic underground church, first in the Ural Mountains where they were deported after the second World War under very terrible conditions. But thanks to the strength of their Catholic faith, they remained faithful, and even in such difficult situations, they managed to organize prayers and hiding priests and so on. And then also in Kyrgyzstan, in Central Asia, where I was born, they continued the same.
• 18:34
  And then we gathered secretly sometimes during the night, sometimes came a priest suddenly, unexpectedly, but for us a great joy, who maybe escaped from the prison or from the house arrests and so on. And this gave us so much strength that we were not, of course, we were human beings and we were careful not to provoke the police and so on to be also prudent. But these gatherings during the night, the sacred masses and prayers, I remember very well. This gives you all your life, a mark and a strength. This is one side.
• 19:28
  The other, well, and what gives you strength to endure all these horrible situations, even humanly spoken, my parents, was the faith. And this gave them the strengths. This I could learn. The other aspect, the simply the life in a in a dictatorship, in a communist atheistic dictatorship. I was in the school.
• 19:57
  We had some lessons which were which were called a scientifical atheism. We had to learn such stuff. But thanks be to God, my education in at home gave me in some way immunity against this nonsense, I mean, and so, and we could hear this nonsense, this ideology, And this did not touch my siblings and me because we were educated by our parents, and they indicated us their errors at home, of course. And so, and then also what I can still take from this experience, that all totalitarian political and social systems, they will break down. They cannot endure, because they are founded on lie.
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  Lie. Communists was a system of lies, and and a state controlled even you were controlled what you have to speak, which words you have to choose. I remember you could not say specific words, otherwise they would say this is a capitalistic hate speech, interesting, capitalistic hate speech. So we hear this today. Also, they are the hate speech when you are speaking in favor of family, natural family, then you are accused to be hate speech.
• 21:47
  And the communist accused us when we when we use some phrasing from the capitalist countries the same. And then you were you had to speak the same system. So and they said, and this is the lie and all the fake system that the communist said to us, we are free. We have freedom. Even we had to learn in our school, I remember a song, a communist song, which said which said, more or less, the communist country and Soviet Union, and so it's a beautiful country.
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  And I do not know another country in the world where people can breathe so freely. And all of us full with gulags, you know, with prisons. And you and they were singing. Do not know another country where you can breathe so freely. This marked me so much.
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  And now in the Western world, we have the globalist. Tyrannical ideology which imposes you what have you to speak and accuses you of hate speech and say we have freedom people you can speak what you want. We have tolerance this they say to us, the governments in the Western world in The United States in Europe in Europe and in all the social media, in the parliaments, but only one thing you cannot say when you defend common sense, when you defend family.
• 23:40
  Seth Holehouse: And truth.
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  Speaker 2: And so this is evidently, we are living in a global totalitarian system. It is for me so similar
• 23:52
  Seth Holehouse: what I experienced in the Soviet Union. Wow. So your experiences in The Soviet Union as a child growing up, you're now seeing that the same way of controlling people, controlling the thoughts, controlling the society, the culture is is now being rolled out on a global scale. And so having lived through that, you're recognizing the signs. And so you're am I correct in understanding that you're seeing that the globalists are really trying to basically do what they did in the Soviet Union, do what they did in, you know, in China, etcetera, that on on a global scale.
• 24:32
  Right? That we're they're trying to bring us into a global communist system. Is that correct?
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: It is evidently. You cannot deny this. Yeah. I repeat. In the most well, almost all Western countries, you are accused and judged and punished when you say something which is evidently according to reason about family, about that same sex marriage is against reason, it's against nature, for example, when you say this, you are accused.
• 25:10
  And so and you are not promoted. You have no chance then to advance in your in a I mean, maybe in a in a in a important career, let us say, politics or business and so on. You have no chance more. We have this, and we have to unite ourselves all over the world, another global alliance, I would say, for common sense, the natural law of human being to to make again our life, social life, more human, more natural. And this we have to, I think, make a new movement all over the world against these new global totalitarianism.
• 26:07
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. I like how you say also to be more human again, because I find that if you look at their agenda, you know, it's it's really fundamentally, it's it's transhumanist agenda. It's even a satanic agenda to pull, you know, the human race away from what it means, away from how God made us, right? You know, so they're trying to distort everything and turn even the most fundamental truths of, you know, I'm born a male, and she's born a female. They're trying to invert even those these most fundamental truths to confuse people so they can lead them into these lies.
• 26:39
  So Yes. I want to ask
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  Speaker 2: you And when you are money. Go ahead. Go ahead. But only to to conclude, you are manipulating people, so manipulated people ideologically, then you have slaves. You have not more free people.
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  And this is the danger. We have to awaken. So people awaken. Do not allow to be slaves in a slave society. We have to gain a regain, again, the true liberty.
• 27:16
  And I hope that people of goodwill all over the world could form such an alliance.
• 27:25
  Seth Holehouse: I that's my hope as well. Now, something that gives me encouragement though, is that you said previously that all totalitarian systems, these tyrannical systems, will collapse because they're built on lies. And so right now, I think for a lot of folks around the world, they look at what's happening. Once you understand the truth of what's happening, it's quite frightening when you look at whether it's the the vax mandatory vaccine rollout or the the loss of our own freedoms, the, you know, the the merger. You know, you mentioned the how the the Vatican and the church is merging with the state.
• 28:01
  Right? We're also seeing look at how Twitter, you know, is merging with the state. Right? So we're seeing this global fascist organization, right, of this corporatocracy merging with the governments that are ruling. And for a lot of people, it's very concerning, and it's hard to find hope in that.
• 28:21
  Yet I I wanna touch upon you more in from the perspective of that these all these systems will fail. So do you believe that this agenda to move the whole world into a communist system, do you believe that this will fail?
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Of course. It will it must fail because it is based on lies, on fake, and this is against nature. And this can, to some extent, operate and be powerful, but only to an act to an extent of time, and then it will collapse because, you know, we have to simply to study history. And this is Hitler proclaimed proudly the so called thousand year Reich, in German, that's thousand year Reich, Hitler. Hit was only twelve years.
• 29:24
  But he was convinced and all the many people in Germany, you know, they went after Hitler. And they believed in a thousand year reign, Reich, you know. And so and the the communists, I remember being also, they they coined the expression in in my school time, I was I was repeating this. The eternal Soviet Union. Imagine such an expression.
• 30:02
  In Russian, I remember this expression, eternal. So we have to was not eternal. It was seventy years and then collapsed. And so also now these anti human global system of ideology, anti human, anti family, anti reality ideology, I would say, they also they're saying they are the bosses of the world. They are not, because there is one who is the boss of the world and the king, Jesus Christ.
• 30:45
  He is the king, and he will show them who is the king. And therefore, we have to be convinced of the victory of the truth, of the victory of nature. Because when it is even as an old Roman saying of the Romans, when you are violating nature in some way, nature will stand up and fight back. Nature will stand up and fight back when you start to manipulate nature. And and so, and this will be done.
• 31:27
  And therefore, we have to have this conviction even as Christians, of course, in first place, because we have faith and we believe on the victory of Christ. And then also even those who have not this simply because of the power of truth, of truth. And so truth brings you through through freedom and liberty. And truth brings you true joy. Without truth, we have no joy.
• 32:10
  And when you we are perceiving now, when we're looking the the so called state mass media, the state terminology and propaganda, it is it is so fake. Yeah. And you can perceive this. You have not to be very intelligent, And therefore this will collapse. Let us build up evermore the truth, the objective truth about man.
• 32:44
  And then also with faith would be still better with the Christian faith in Jesus Christ and his victory.
• 32:53
  Seth Holehouse: I think it's it's very important, you know, what you said about truth, because that's something that I think that can unite people. It doesn't matter you know, that that's something that whatever the religion or the race or creed, right, there's there's a singular truth. Right? And we we know that, and so getting back to that. And so for for people that understand what's happening and maybe feel overwhelmed or not sure what to do, I mean, how what would your advice to them be?
• 33:19
  How how can you how would you encourage people to not give up and and to keep fighting? And what would you say to do to combat this?
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: What can people do? First, I think we have to be united more. As a single person, you can very it is difficult to go against these powers who are so global linked together. And therefore, we have also to to make to organize something with a concrete with a concrete aim to to stand against really a totalitarian system. This we have to say, no, we have not.
• 34:09
  We have to fight against totalitarianism in thinking. There is no one thinking. We have to establish the true freedom and not discrimination when you when you are defending something which is evident, which is the reality. Let let we have to again to make concrete points to defend marriage, natural marriage. This is the the living cell of humanity to defend a natural family.
• 34:44
  And to to to defend a true health education of our children, to defend them from be poisoned and abused of the gender ideology. This is an abuse of children. They are indoctrinated. So against indoctrination of children, this is the basic and parents, they have to fight for their rights as parents to educate their children. This is a basic natural right, which all dictators trampled on their feet and destroyed.
• 35:24
  All all dictatorships, the first rights of the children of the parents. So they have to establish these points to promote true, let us say, dignity of man, of his masculinity to defend and to promote a true femininity of a woman. This is an we have to honor the woman to be defenders of the dignity of woman, of the mothers of fathers, then to protect the most vulnerable and weak human beings. These are the the unborn children. Yeah.
• 36:06
  Without this, we have no future. No. God will not bless this when your society is continuing to killing, to murdering their unborn citizens. For example, there is some small progress in The Netherlands A Couple Of Years ago. This was to my surprise, the government in Netherlands allowed that children or babies who were who died of spontaneous miscarriage.
• 36:44
  I mean, miscarriage. It's not an abortion, but no. Nevertheless, they were nonborn. And so the the mothers can go to the state offices and give a name to these miscarriage children, and they are written as persons. Really?
• 37:08
  Unborn. Yes. As persons, but only the miscarriage, not the aborted ones. What a contradiction. What a contradiction.
• 37:18
  And then we have to fight that the abortion is no way. This is the fundamental right of the most vulnerable and and weak. And then society will be strong. When we when a society will start to defend the most weak one, these these are the unborn. We were unborn.
• 37:42
  You were unborn. I was unborn. We had luck, and we have to recognize this. This is the first, and then the the natural marriage, the natural family, the rights of the parents absolutely. To to really to promote the dignity of a woman in her in her femininity and and also the the male persons.
• 38:07
  This is then beauty. Society which is only unisex is not beauty. It is it's ugly lately, lastly. But the beauty is when you see the diversity of nature, when you observe a beautiful garden with flowers, which God created is so variety, and this gives beauty. And therefore the two sexes which God created, when they are evaluated, this is beauty, then the life will become more beautiful in our society.
• 38:43
  And then to protect the older people, the elder. And so only then we will have a real more human society, and then more beautiful humanly. And then they will build up a beautiful culture. Culture cannot be when there is a society of murders and destruction of nature. Culture can only flourish from real beauty, real harmony.
• 39:18
  And then lastly, from faith, because from faith is the product of faith is culture, of Christian faith. And so you see, we have so beautiful aims, which we can at least to make a coalition alliance of all people of goodwill. And then among the Christians, then to promote the the convincing faith in Jesus Christ as the king of of our world. At least these we should do.
• 39:53
  Seth Holehouse: And those are really encouraging words, because I think that, you know, as I'm painting the picture from your perspective, that the globalists and the communists, they will fail. You know, they're built on lies. It's a house of cards. It can only go on for so long. But for us, we have to fundamentally have faith, but also we have to have the courage to fight for goodness in this world.
• 40:18
  Because I think that in many ways, the evil that we see around us, it's, you know, we've also helped that evil. You know, we have by, you know, you know, by good men doing nothing, right? That's what it takes for evil to really, you know, thrive. And so I think that we have to acknowledge that we've allowed a lot of these evils into our world, and that we now have to fight for good. So we have to realize the importance of all of us that understand this.
• 40:50
  Like, feel like that God has chosen me. God has chosen you. God has chosen all the people that see through all the lies. And he's he's saying to us, please help wake everybody else up. Please help everyone else see through the lies, because the quicker the world returns to truth, the faster those lies collapse, the faster the communists collapse.
• 41:10
  Yes.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: So I would like to remember a beautiful and striking affirmation of a famous journalist who was killed by the Nazis during the Second World War. He was from Prague in in Czechia, Fuchsik, and he made this affirmation. Be not afraid of your friends. They can only betray you. Be not afraid of your enemies.
• 41:45
  They can only kill you. Be afraid of the indifferent ones who are silencing, because of their silence are being committed to most horrible crimes. And this is basically what you wanted to say, that we cannot be simply silencing and indifferent. We have to do something, And every good every good action done sincerely for the benefit of the truth of the good. And then, of course, when you are a Christian for the love of God, will bear fruits always.
• 42:33
  God will reward you. And it is not important what people today say about you, what the powerful of this world say about you. It's not important what the mass media say about you, New York Times, and so on. No. It is important what people in history will speak about you hundred years after your death, and what God will speak about you.
• 43:04
  Seth Holehouse: Absolutely. It's you know, our actions here, they really do as as was, I think, said in one of the famous movie quotes, but our actions now are echo in eternity, and that's the true opportunity. I think it's a beautiful thing if you realize that, because it's like, wow, I've been given the opportunity. You know, I've been born into a world that has all this evil, because God needs me to be a person that can bring light and goodness to the world. So I think that that, to me, that invigorates me, and it makes me want to press forward even harder in the journey, in the battle for truth and goodness in this world.
• 43:45
  Yes. Well, I think that this a great message to end on. And I hope that for the folks that are watching or listening that you can share this video or share the podcast with people, because I think this is the more people that can think like this and take responsibility and have hope for the future and have conviction and faith, I think the quicker we can transform what's happening in our world, and that gives me hope for for the future.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Yes. So I think we have the chance to start to do what we can, everyone on his place. And then we are believing in the Lord, Christ with his help. And this is really a noble and action which will have their fruits for eternity. And I would like to encourage all these good people of goodwill who want to really make a good contribution, a real contribution for the good of our society, of our families, of our children, of the future, to make really this world which got created a little bit more beautiful, a little bit more human, a little bit more really charity, real love, real respect, God fearing reverence, awe of God, this all will change our world in a little bit more beautiful place.
• 45:28
  And so this gives us hope and encourages us since we are now close to Christmas season, and this should give the conviction that we are not alone, that Christ came in this our dark world and brought his light. And the more small lights are in this world, the more brighter will it be. And then Christ is the the prince of peace who came to bring us peace, first everyone with God, and then amongst us. So when we will be in the peace with God, we will be better. Love one another and be better in peace.
• 46:21
  Seth Holehouse: Those are beautiful words. Thank you so much for for what you're doing and for speaking out, and have a wonderful Christmas season. It's a beautiful time for us to reflect on what we've been given. And just, you know, again, yeah, thank you. It's such an honor to have you here.
• 46:36
  I really appreciate you giving me this time.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Yes. You are welcome, and God bless you and all your assist your program and your family.
• 46:45
  Seth Holehouse: Thank you.