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- 0:00Speaker 1: Good morning, everybody, and welcome to the reading of the
- 0:02Washington Post for this Monday, October sixth. As you know,
- 0:07RADIOI is a reading service intended for people who are
- 0:10blind or have other disabilities that make it difficult to
- 0:13read printed material. You're reading for today's Rod Brotherton and
- 0:18as you know by listener request on Mondays, we begin
- 0:21by reading Paul Prather's weekly column from yesterday's Lexington Herald Leader.
- 0:28The week's article is entitled My latest health adventure raised
- 0:34more spiritual questions than it solved. Here's a tip. If
- 0:40you ever have to take a trip to the emergency room,
- 0:43just say these four words. I'm having trouble breathing. I
- 0:50showed up at an er a few weeks ago thinking
- 0:54I'd either picked up COVID nineteen or pneumonia, both of
- 0:59which I've had before. In my experience, those two illnesses
- 1:04feel similar. My wife Liz insisted on driving me. I
- 1:09had a fever, a cough and couldn't catch a deep breath.
- 1:14I tested my oxygen on an oximeter and it was
- 1:17in the low eighties. Not good. I figured I needed
- 1:22pav pax lavid or an antibiotic. When Liz and I
- 1:27reached the er. The intake clerk gave me a clipboard
- 1:30a paperwork to fell out. Then I said those four
- 1:34magical words, and instantly the whole plot changed. The clerk
- 1:40snatched the clipboard out of my hand. She called out
- 1:43something over her left shoulder that I couldn't hear through
- 1:46the glass barrier between us. The doors to the ear's
- 1:50entereds swung open, and a woman in scrubs appeared. Then
- 1:56I was on a gurney in my own private triage room.
- 2:00I'd guess less than two minutes had elapsed since Liz
- 2:03and I entered the hospital. Soon I had an ivy
- 2:07in my arm, a tangle of wires stuck to my torso,
- 2:11and the prongs of an oxygen hose in my nose.
- 2:15I had two doctors, a physician's assistant, a squad of nurses,
- 2:21and an assortment of texts, all hurrying in and out,
- 2:25monitoring vital signs and asking questions. Gee, this could be serious,
- 2:31I thought this could be for real. It was like
- 2:35starring in real life episode of The Pit, except I
- 2:39wasn't the heroic doctor about to save the day with
- 2:43a brilliant off the wall diagnosis. I was the poor
- 2:47sap about to code. Long story. I spent the next
- 2:53twenty four hours undergoing every test known to medical science.
- 2:56I was X rayed, ultarsounded, stress test, shot full of
- 3:01radioactive dye, and scanned. The medical folks tossed around terms
- 3:05like heart failure and blockages and whatnot. In the end,
- 3:12it turned out I had none of those things, and
- 3:14neither did I have covid or ammonia. What I do have,
- 3:18the doctors determined, is atrial fibrillation, a regular heartbeat. In
- 3:26my case, its symptoms were exacerbated by a petulant sleep
- 3:30apnea that my seapap machine wasn't touching. I've since received
- 3:35a new machine, which is supposed to be better. Also,
- 3:40I already knew my thyroid had spreaded several benign nodes,
- 3:44but I learned that nodules were pressing on my windpipe
- 3:48and restricting my air flow. Back home again, feeling all
- 3:53most normal, looking forward to okay, dreading probable surgery on
- 4:01that thyroid. An autumn now booked full of appointments with specialists. Still,
- 4:07there was a significant period in my hospital visit that
- 4:11Liz and I both thought this might be it, the
- 4:15big one. As Fred Sandford used to say, from a
- 4:19spiritual standpoint, my experiences on that front were disappointing, troubling.
- 4:26Even I believe in telling the truth when faith comes
- 4:32rushing in to redeem a dark situation and brings with
- 4:37it a piece that surpasses understanding. I've seen such things
- 4:42happen to others and to myself. But if you're going
- 4:46to tell the truth about those times, you also have
- 4:50to tell the truth about all the other times when
- 4:53faith seems to have no effect whatsoever. My er visit
- 4:58was one of those latter. Two times during that ordeal,
- 5:02thinking I might be on my last legs, I never
- 5:06had any sense of God's presence, no epiphany, no reassurance,
- 5:12no still small voice. There wasn't much fear either for
- 5:17some reason, just a big, silent nothing. In fact, about
- 5:24eighteen or twenty hours into my stay, I was lying
- 5:28beneath the machine that was taking pictures of the die
- 5:30coursing through my INNERDS. I was in the room by myself.
- 5:35The technicians watched from an adjacent room as I tried
- 5:40not to move, and my mind darted from here to there.
- 5:44It occurred to me I hadn't prayed once since arriving
- 5:48at the er the day before. I can't remember exactly
- 5:52what I said, but my prayer started with something along
- 5:56the lines of I don't know why I am in
- 6:00this situation. I don't know if there's any purpose in this.
- 6:05I don't even know if you're there. If you are there,
- 6:09I don't know if you're listening. But if you are
- 6:13there and you're listening, I'd appreciate some help. The response
- 6:19stone silence. If you're of a skeptical turn, you might
- 6:26be well thinking, of course, there was nothing but a big,
- 6:29yawning silence and response to your prayer. That's all. There is, nothingness,
- 6:34avoid doesn't have a voice. Someone else might say, hey,
- 6:39you weren't dying after all, so you didn't need a
- 6:42word from God. But I have heard from the other
- 6:46side and tough moments, big and small, not often, but
- 6:51clearly enough. It's changed my life. What's more, I've set
- 6:56by the bedsides of ailing friends and family as God's
- 7:00to them and change them. There's something really there. Yet
- 7:07sometimes for no discernible reason, that same God is so
- 7:12silent he might as well not exist. And that's part
- 7:16of the story too. During my time in the hospital.
- 7:20All I felt was my own humanity. I thought about
- 7:24the next test I will schedule for, and I thought
- 7:26about the uncomfortable hospital bed. I thought about Liz, my
- 7:31son and the grandchildren, but not about God. As nearly
- 7:37as I could discern, he wasn't thinking of me either.
- 7:41It's all a mystery. It's all untelling. And as you
- 7:48know Paul Pray through his pastor of the Bethesda Church
- 7:51near Mount Sterling, and you can email him at prtpd
- 7:56at yahoo dot com. Now let's turn to the Washington
- 8:02Post and reading from the front page, the first story
- 8:06is Trump plan would limit disability benefits for older Americans.
- 8:12The Trump administration is preparing a plan that would make
- 8:16it harder for old am older Americans to qualify for
- 8:20Social Security disability payments, part of an overhaul of the
- 8:25federal safety net for the poor, older, and disabled people
- 8:29that could result in hundreds of thousands of people losing benefits,
- 8:33according to people familiar with plans. The Social Security Administration
- 8:39evaluates disability claims by considering age, work experience, and education
- 8:46to determine if a person can adjust to other types
- 8:49of work. Older applicants, typically over fifty, have a better
- 8:54chance of qualifying because age is treated as a limitation
- 8:58and adapting to many jobs. But now officials are considering
- 9:03eliminating age as a factor entirely, erasing the threshold age
- 9:08to sixty. According to three people familiar with the plans
- 9:12who spoke on the condition of anonymity to share private discussions,
- 9:17they also planned to modernize labor market data used to
- 9:21judge whether claimants can work, replacing an outdated jobs database
- 9:27that includes obsolete occupations such as nut sorters and telephone
- 9:33quotation clerks. Following a Washington Post investigation in twenty twenty two,
- 9:40it is unclear exactly how many Americans could lose access
- 9:44to disability benefits under the proposed rule changes. Jack Smulligan,
- 9:50a senior policy fellow at the Urban Institute and a
- 9:55former Office of Management and Budget official through five administrations,
- 10:00wrote in a recent paper that if the proposed rule
- 10:03reduced eligibility for the disability program by ten percent, seven
- 10:08hundred and fifty thousand fewer people would receive benefits for
- 10:14all or part of the next decade. In addition, eighty
- 10:19thousand fewer widows and children would receive benefits because of
- 10:24the loss and eligibility of a spouse or parent, and
- 10:28that would lead to eighty two billion dollars less paid
- 10:32out over benefits over ten years, small Agan estimated. Smalligan
- 10:37said research has shown that a majority of older Americans
- 10:42who want to apply for disability benefits don't get another job.
- 10:47If the rule didn't consider age as a factor, more
- 10:50older disabled workers would probably start taking early retirement benefits,
- 10:56significantly reducing their monthly benefit amount. Older workers who claim
- 11:02retirement benefits at age sixty two, rather than receive Social
- 11:07Security Disability insurance, would receive thirty percent lesson benefits for
- 11:13the rest of their lives. The criteria already is really
- 11:18tight enough that we're actually restricting some people we probably
- 11:21should allow, Smulligan said in an interview. SSA spokesman Barton
- 11:28McKay said the agency is working on plans to propose
- 11:31improvements to the disability adjudication process to ensure our disability
- 11:38program remains current and can be more efficiently administered. This
- 11:44includes proposing policy updates to occupational data sources and optimizing
- 11:50their use to serve our customers and preserve the trust funds.
- 11:54McKay said, once the proposal is fully developed, we will
- 11:59share it publicly and request public comment through the standard
- 12:03rule making process. As with any rule making, we will
- 12:08consider and analyze public comments before deciding whether to finalize
- 12:13the rule. People familiar with the proposed changes said they
- 12:19are a priority of Russell Vought, the director of the
- 12:22Office of Management and Budget, who sought during Trump's first
- 12:27term to update the disability roles through executive action. At
- 12:32the start of Trump's second term, the White House Budget
- 12:35Office urged Leland Dudick, the acting commissioner at the time,
- 12:40to pursue rule changes shortly after he took office. Conservatives
- 12:46have long argued that since Americans are living longer and
- 12:50fewer have jobs that require manual labor, many physically disabled
- 12:55workers could adapt to desk work, broadening their work options
- 13:00and resulting in fewer people being granted disability benefits. Social
- 13:05Security officials prepared to issue a similar rule at the
- 13:09end of the first Trump administration, but ran out of time.
- 13:13We felt that so many more jobs are now available
- 13:16to disabled people, said Mark Warshansky, who led the work
- 13:21on earlier proposed rules as the SSA's Deputy Commissioner for
- 13:25Retirement and Disability Policy. During the Trump's first administration, but
- 13:30the nature of work has changed. Wwwshowsky, a senior fellow
- 13:35at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank, predicted
- 13:40that while the new rule under consideration would allow the
- 13:44agency to turn away more older people, more people with
- 13:48mental disabilities are likely to be approved. Senator Ron Wyden
- 13:53of Oregon, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Finance Committee,
- 13:57argued that the rule change is just the first step
- 14:01in broader Republican plans to cut Social Security. This is
- 14:07phase one of the Republican campaign to force Americans to
- 14:11work into old age to access their earned Social Security
- 14:16benefits and represents the largest cut to disability insurance in
- 14:21American history, Widen said in a statement to the Post,
- 14:26Americans with disabilities have worked and paid into Social Security
- 14:32just like everybody else, and they do not deserve the
- 14:36indignity of more bureaucratic water torture to get what they
- 14:41paid for. The eleven billion dollar monthly disability program is
- 14:47separate from Social securities retirement system. It is also far
- 14:53more difficult to qualify for benefits under the program than
- 14:57the disability system for veterans. The administration faces a challenge
- 15:03finding ways to keep the retirement fund going as it
- 15:06approaches Insolvency. Commissioner Frank Bissiogo said this agency is not
- 15:12considering raising the age that retirees qualify for benefits, walking
- 15:17back in earlier comment that the administration had not ruled
- 15:21it out. Qualifying for disability benefits is a multi step
- 15:26process that can take years, particularly if someone is turned
- 15:32down and appeals. One of the first steps in the
- 15:35process is determining if the applicant has a serious illness
- 15:41or condition on a list of impairments such as als,
- 15:45terminal cancer, or chronic heart failure. If their condition is
- 15:51not dire, the applicant's age, work experience, and education become
- 15:57factors the government must weigh to if their disability still
- 16:02allows them to work. If they are over fifty, they
- 16:06have a better shot at qualifying for benefits because they
- 16:10are considered less able to adapt to new work. These
- 16:14factors have been responsible for making about forty two percent
- 16:18of applicants eligible for benefits. Social Security data from twenty
- 16:22twenty two shows to determine the jobs a disability applicant
- 16:28might be able to do, the agency has long relied
- 16:31on a database compiled by the Labor Department, which abandoned
- 16:35the list more than thirty years ago as the economy
- 16:39shifted away from blue collar work to information and services.
- 16:44With the aim of modernizing the job's data uses, Social
- 16:49Security has paid the Bureau of Labor Statistics more than
- 16:53three hundred million dollars to build a complex directory of
- 16:58twenty first century jobs. The spending came under scrutiny from
- 17:03lawmakers on Capitol Hill following the earlier Post report, and
- 17:08the agency is still not using the modern data when
- 17:11reviewing disability claims, according to two former officials. Starting next year,
- 17:18the agency plans to develop a computer generated database using
- 17:23the modern jobs data to determine which jobs, if any,
- 17:28someone seeking benefits could perform. Disability advocates say they worry
- 17:35that the database will be programmed to come up with
- 17:37a vast array of jobs, particularly if advancing age is
- 17:42no longer a limiting factor, and will end up denying
- 17:46benefits to tens of thousands of claimants every year. Michelle Spataford,
- 17:53a senior attorney for the New York Legal Assistance Group,
- 17:57said she frequently finds older disabled clients are not able
- 18:01to go back to work if they are denied benefits.
- 18:04Because they struggle to keep up with the technical and
- 18:07physical skills required of modern work. In addition, employers may
- 18:13be less than inclined to hire workers nearing retirement age
- 18:17over younger hires. You couldn't stop working because you reach
- 18:22a certain age and you think disability benefits are the
- 18:25next logical steps. Bat of foresaid, nobody does that because
- 18:31disability benefits are almost always less money than full time wages.
- 18:37The changes come as new disability claims have declined. State
- 18:42level data shows that disability applications are down seven percent
- 18:47this fiscal year compared with the previous year, according to
- 18:51an Urban Institute analysis. Meanwhile, initial denials of disability claims
- 18:58are up according to the same analysis, which found the
- 19:02SSA has approved nearly three percent fewer claims last fiscal
- 19:07year compared with this one. More than fifteen million Americans
- 19:12received monthly disability checks as part of two programs, Social
- 19:17Security Disability insurance for those with the work history who
- 19:21have become disabled before retirement, and Supplemental Security Income, an
- 19:27anti poverty program for poor, elderly and disabled people that
- 19:32pays about eight hundred dollars a month. At the same time,
- 19:36Social Security is working on plans to rescind a Biden
- 19:40narrow rule that expanded SSI eligibility for recipients who lived
- 19:45with relatives or roommates receiving help from the Supplemental Nutrition
- 19:50Assistance Program or other public assistants. Restoring stricter standards could
- 19:57roll back payments for about four hundred thousan Americans, according
- 20:01to an August report from the Center on Budget and
- 20:04Policy Priorities. Spatafor said she expects her clients impacted by
- 20:10this change could see their payments reduced by a third,
- 20:15and other cuts to snap as part of Trump's sweeping
- 20:18tax and spending plan could further devastate households. Any small
- 20:24cut in that delicate balance can be the difference between
- 20:28paying utilities that month, Spatafoor said. McKay, the SSA spokesman,
- 20:33said the change would return us to long standing criteria
- 20:38and policy to promote program integrity again. As is standard
- 20:45with rulemaking processes, the proposed rule will be made publicly
- 20:50available and the public will be given an opportunity to
- 20:54comment before the rule is finalized. And the next battle
- 21:01increases over the use of the National Guard as judge
- 21:05deals trump new setback and plans to deploy troops to Portland.
- 21:11A federal judge late Sunday dealt another blow to the
- 21:15Trump administration's plans to send troops to Portland after a
- 21:19weekend of heated confrontations between protesters and federal agents there,
- 21:25temporarily blocking hundreds of California National Guard members as they
- 21:30were being deployed to Oregon's biggest city over objections from
- 21:34Democratic governors in both states. US District Judge Karen j
- 21:41Immergrant said the government appeared to be directly defying her
- 21:45previous temporary restraining order from a day earlier, blocking the
- 21:50administration from sending Oregon's National Guard to the city by
- 21:54instead deploying members of the California Guard. Immigrant at Trump
- 22:00pointee confirmed to the bench in twenty nineteen, issued a
- 22:04new broader order Sunday to prohibit the administration from deploying
- 22:10any state's National Guard troops under federal control to Oregon.
- 22:15The decision came after California's Governor, Gavin Newsom, the Democrat,
- 22:22joined a lawsuit filed by Oregon as the Pentagon confirmed
- 22:26that Trump ordered about two hundred National Guard members to
- 22:30be a assigned from California Oregon Governor Tina Kuttik said
- 22:36later Sunday that about one hundred had arrived and were
- 22:39sent to a camp operated by the Oregon Military Department,
- 22:43and we're about one hundred there were on the way.
- 22:47Newsomb celebrated the decision, saying in a statement that California's
- 22:52National Guard would be heading home. Donald Trump tried to
- 22:57turn our soldiers into instruments of his political will, and
- 23:01while our fight continues tonight, the rule of law, said
- 23:06hell No. Oregon Attorney General Dan Rayfield, a Democrat, said
- 23:13earlier that the state would expand its effort legally to
- 23:17include fighting deployments from out of state, accusing the President
- 23:22of being hell bent on using the military absent the
- 23:27facts or authority to do so. It is up to
- 23:31us and the courts to hold him accountable. Rayfield set
- 23:35on the Twitter side x. Later Sunday, Illinois Governor J. B. Pritzker,
- 23:42another Democrat, said that the Guard in his state was
- 23:45informed that Trump had ordered four hundred members of the
- 23:49Texas National Guard to be sent to Illinois, Oregon, and
- 23:53other locations. Trump on Saturday had ordered the activation of
- 23:57three hundred National Guard troops to Kago against the wishes
- 24:02of Pritzker, who has also said he would sue. We
- 24:07must now start calling this what it is, Trump's invasion.
- 24:13It started with federal agents, it will soon include deploying
- 24:17federalized members of the Illinois National Guard against our wishes,
- 24:22and it will now involve sending in another state's military troops,
- 24:26he said in a statement. The Trump administration, which has
- 24:31said troops are needed to protect immigration and Customs of
- 24:34Enforcement facilities and agents conducting operations, has already asked the
- 24:40US Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit to allow
- 24:44it to federalize the two hundred National Guard troops from
- 24:48Oregon while appeals are making their way through the courts.
- 24:52Oregon responded by asking the appeals court to keep the
- 24:55temporary restraining order in place to mark a significant escalation
- 25:03as the Trump administration presses ahead with his push to
- 25:07increase deportations amid clashes between immigration authorities and angry residents
- 25:13and over objections from states and setbacks in court. Immigrant,
- 25:19in her decision late Saturday, wrote she expected a trial
- 25:23court to agree that the president exceeded his constitutional authority
- 25:28in mobilizing federal troops for local work and probably violated
- 25:33the Tenth Amendment. Immigrant said Trump had not met the
- 25:37standard to call up troops and pointed to substantial evidence
- 25:42that the protests at the Portland ICE facility were not
- 25:46significantly violent or disruptive in the days or even weeks
- 25:51leading up to the President's directive, prompting White House Deputy
- 25:55Chief of Staff Stephen Miller to accuse the judge of
- 25:58legal insurrection. In Portland, federal law enforcement on Saturday night
- 26:05enforced protesters away from an Immigration and Customs enforcement facility.
- 26:10Officers in military style attire with helmets and respirators fired
- 26:15pepper balls into the crowd and deployed canisters of chemical irritants,
- 26:20engulfing apartment buildings in white smoke and leaving protesters and
- 26:25passers by coughing and crying. Tensions spiked also in Chicago Saturday,
- 26:33when an armed agent shot and injured a female motorist.
- 26:37Trump officials said the agent fired defensive shots at a
- 26:40female motorist after officers vehicles were rammed and boxed in
- 26:46by several drivers in a Southwest Chicago neighborhood. Separately, six
- 26:53people were arrested Saturday outside an ICE facility in broad
- 26:57View Illinois, just west of Chicago, courting the state police.
- 27:02Department of Homeland Security spokeswoman Tricia McLaughlin characterized the shooting
- 27:08incident as a response to an ambush carried out by
- 27:12domestic terrorists who also threw gas, rocks and bottles at
- 27:17law enforcement. Law enforcement alleged that the female motorist later
- 27:22identified by federal officials as marimand Martinez, was armed with
- 27:28a semi automatic weapon. She was shot and wounded, but
- 27:32drove away from the scene and was later treated at
- 27:35a hospital and taken into FBI custody. Charging documents file
- 27:41Sunday against Martinez and a man, Anthony Ion Santos Ruiz,
- 27:47did not mention a weapon belonging to either. They were
- 27:50accused of using deadly weapons their vehicles to assault and
- 27:55impede federal officers. Pritzker TOLDSI in State of the Union
- 28:01on Sunday that his office had not been able to
- 28:04verify the initial account and was seeking more information. He
- 28:09accused the Trump administration of misrepresenting what led up to
- 28:15a deadly shooting of a Chicago man by federal immigration
- 28:18officers last month, and questioned the department's account. They won't
- 28:23let US access the facts. They are just putting out
- 28:27their propaganda, Prinsker said. Prinsker said that Trump, Homeland Security
- 28:34Secretary Christy L. Newim, and others misrepresenting Chicago and Democratic
- 28:40run cities as urban war zones in need of rescue,
- 28:45arguing that it is federal agents who are sowing chaos.
- 28:50They are the ones that are making it a war zone.
- 28:52Prinsker said, they want mayhem on the ground. They want
- 28:56to create the war zone so that they can send
- 28:58in even more troops. On Fox and Friends on Sunday,
- 29:03Nuwham contended that some protesters in Chicago were planning attacks
- 29:09and setting bounties to kidnap or kill federal law enforcement.
- 29:16Our intelligence indicates that these people are organized. They're getting
- 29:21more and more people on their team as far as
- 29:24attacking officers, and they're making plans to ambush them and
- 29:28to kill them, Num said, without sighting specific threats. The
- 29:34Chicago area was calm Sunday afternoon, both outside the Ice
- 29:39facility in Broadview and in the city neighborhood of Brighton Park,
- 29:44where weekend journeers bustled past pieces of tailed light marking
- 29:49where colliding vehicles had led to the shooting on Saturday,
- 29:54and while internal ICE policies require agents to display their badges,
- 30:00they don't have to comply if they believe their safety
- 30:03is at risk, and there is no constitutional prohibition of
- 30:07immigration officers' use of masks. Such facial coverings have traditionally
- 30:13been avoided by law enforcement because it tends to intimidate,
- 30:18a tactic criticized last week by US District Judge William
- 30:22Young in Boston. Young, appointed by Ronald Reagan, rule the
- 30:27administration had been illegally targeting non citizen protesters in violation
- 30:33of their First Amendment right of free speech, in part
- 30:38with ICE agents wearing masks to terrorize Americans into quiescence. Miller,
- 30:45Trump's deputy chief of staff, described the clash as an
- 30:49Oregon as an organized terrorist attack on the federal government
- 30:53and its officers, and said local and state officials have
- 30:56refused eight ICE officers facing relentless terrorist attacks and threats
- 31:02to life. The deployment of troops is an absolute necessity
- 31:07to defend our personnel, our laws, our government, republic order,
- 31:13and the republic itself. Miller, and architect of Trump's immigration strategy,
- 31:19wrote on x the president is the commander in chief
- 31:23of the Armed Forces, not an Oregon judge. The scene
- 31:29outside the Porcelain Ice facility on Sunday was largely subdued,
- 31:34punctuated by occasional scuffles that were recorded in livestream by
- 31:39witnesses and participants in all sides Widers confrontations had occurred Saturday,
- 31:46when the facility's metalgates swung open and federal officers emerged
- 31:51in formation to move protesters back before vehicles entered or left.
- 31:57By midday Sunday, only a handful of demonstrators were present
- 32:01and traffic flowed freely. Last week, an address at Quantico, Virginia,
- 32:08before generals and admirals summoned from around the world, Trump
- 32:12said he needed armed forces to police American cities, to
- 32:16crying what he said was the enemy within, and saying
- 32:20that he should be allowed to use military force domestically.
- 32:24Trump on Sunday continued to press the issue, saying Portland
- 32:28is burning to the ground. You have agitators, insurrectionists. Turn
- 32:34on your television, Look at your television. The governor, the mayor,
- 32:37and the politicians are petrified for their lives. And our
- 32:43next story, Biden's TikTok law turns into a big win
- 32:49for Trump. When President Biden signed a law last year
- 32:54forcing the sale of TikTok, top democrats and China hawks
- 32:59heralded as a triumph. Four years earlier, President Trump tried
- 33:04and failed during his first term in the White House
- 33:07to push through a similar measure, but the Biden administration
- 33:11worked aggressively with Congress craft, the law, official said, would
- 33:15sever all risks of political influence from China, where TikTok's owner,
- 33:21Bite Dance, is based. Now, some critics of an extraordinary
- 33:27deal to spin off a US version of TikTok, say
- 33:30that efforts has backfired. The app's recommendation algorithm will remain
- 33:36in bite Dance's hand under the proposal, undermining one of
- 33:40the Biden team's central justifications for the law. TikTok's new
- 33:46owners are likely to include corporate interests tied to some
- 33:50of Trump's most prominent backers, including Larry Ellison, jeff Yass,
- 33:55and Rupert Murdoch, who some fear could exert their own
- 33:59political influence. China even eked out its own kind of
- 34:04win in the process, hitching the company to broader negotiations
- 34:09with the United States regarding concessions on tariffs and trade.
- 34:15The wildly popular video app will soon be spun off
- 34:19into a new US joint venture mostly owned by American
- 34:23investors who are patriotic and love America, a senior White
- 34:27House official said, Money, a consortium of investors from the
- 34:32tech giant Oracle, the investment group silver Lake, and other
- 34:38groups will own about eighty percent of the company under
- 34:41the deal, which is not yet finalized but for which
- 34:45China and the US have confirmed their general support. Trump
- 34:50is expected to sign an executive order this week declaring
- 34:54that the deal, largely negotiated by administration officials, will be
- 34:59a qualify divestiture satisfying the Biden Laws requirement to allow
- 35:05TikTok to continue operating in the US. That order could
- 35:10serve as an ignoble funeral for the Biden Law, which
- 35:14followed years of backed room regulatory work, congressional hearings, and
- 35:19an aendorsement from the Supreme Court, only to end with
- 35:23the social media platform more deeply linked to Trump's allies
- 35:28than ever. Biden's team had argued that TikTok, with one
- 35:35hundred and seventy million US users, was too powerful to
- 35:39remain in Chinese hands, saying its extensive stores of US
- 35:44user data and for U recommendation algorithm could be misused
- 35:50to boost propaganda and undermine free expression. TikTok denied any
- 35:56such capability, including before the Supreme Court. A person familiar
- 36:03with TikTok strategy who spoke on the condition of anonymity
- 36:07to discuss internal details, said the apps policies, algorithm reviews,
- 36:13and trust and safety teams are all designed to prevent
- 36:16political manipulation and will continue operating after the US spent off,
- 36:23but the lack of transparency in the process has raised
- 36:26concern among civil liberties experts about political manipulation from a
- 36:31different quarter, the Trump administration and its political backers. David Greene,
- 36:39a director of the digital rights group Electronic Frontier Foundation,
- 36:44said in a statement that the law has only resulted
- 36:48in turning over the platform to the allies of a
- 36:50president who seems to have no respect for the First Amendment.
- 36:56Emma L. Bryant, a visiting associate professor with the University
- 37:00of Notre Dame who researches influence in propaganda, said the
- 37:05heavy involvement of the White House and the private company's
- 37:08affairs raised the possibility that Trump was cherry picking the board,
- 37:15making deals with his buddies, and creating a medium monopoly
- 37:19to keep himself in power. The government has basically forced
- 37:24this company into American ownership, so it's playing a role
- 37:28in what the company will be, she said, and where
- 37:30does that line stop. Bryant said she worried that the
- 37:35new company could politicize its content modernization decisions and in
- 37:40a way that would bolster pro Trump viewpoints and suspress
- 37:44suppress criticism, a parallel to the argument TikTok critics made
- 37:50against China before the law passed last year with bipartisan support.
- 37:56Similar concerns have also been expressed about Elon Musk, the
- 38:00billionaire owner of X, and Larry Ellison's son David Ellison,
- 38:06the new owner of CBS. It's incredibly troubling how quickly
- 38:12medium moguls are capturing the information space at a time
- 38:16when there's a crackdown on speech. More broadly, Bryan said,
- 38:20they're grabbing and seeking to control more and more of
- 38:24the infrastructure through which political debate happens. After Biden signed
- 38:29the law requiring byte Dance to sell the app or
- 38:33have it banned in the US, Trump pledged repeatedly to
- 38:38save TikTok, saying he had become a big star of
- 38:42the app, which he tried to ban during his first presidency.
- 38:46On the first day of his second term, Trump signed
- 38:50an executive order his first four commanding his administration not
- 38:55to enforce the TikTok law. Since January, TikTok has remained
- 39:01operational in the US, while a negotiating team led by
- 39:05Vice President j d Vance has worked with Byte Dance
- 39:09and Chinese officials toward a quasi takeover deal that would
- 39:14allow the app to stay online. During that time, investors
- 39:19have flooded the White House expressing interest in the deal,
- 39:23including officials from Murdoch's Fox Corporation, According to two people
- 39:28familiar with the negotiations who spoke on the condition of
- 39:32anonymity to discuss confidential talks. Trump sued Murdoch and others
- 39:38in July over a story in a different media property
- 39:42he owns, The Wall Street Journal, after it reported on
- 39:46a two thousand and three birthday letter and drawing that
- 39:49Trump allegedly gave to Jeffrey Epstein. The lawsuit is ongoing
- 39:55decisions on who will get to buy into the final
- 39:58deal have been made the White House negotiators, not by
- 40:02byte Edance. Those share of the new TikTok spinoff will
- 40:07shrink under the deal to just below twenty percent. Some
- 40:12of Byteedance's institutional investors will get a share of the spinoff,
- 40:17including Susquehanna International Group, whose co founder Yas gave millions
- 40:24to support Trump's re election campaign. The person said. One
- 40:28of the new investors, Oracle, will also retain a role
- 40:32as TikTok's security provider, hosting Americans user data and employing
- 40:38algorithm reviewers to audit the app's underlying code. Larry Ellison,
- 40:44Oracle's co founder, is an outspoken Trump supporter and one
- 40:48of the world's richest people. Rush Doshie, a former Biden
- 40:54national security official now at the Council on Foreign Relations
- 40:57think tank, said the prime says had the appearance of
- 41:01crony capitalism because of how much Trump's ally stood gain.
- 41:07The TikTok deal doesn't look open to all market participants,
- 41:11he said. It seems like it's open mostly to those
- 41:15close to the administration already, including its political supporters. Byte
- 41:21Dance will duplicate the recommendation algorithm, retain it solely on
- 41:26US user data and license it for use in the
- 41:30spun off app, the White House official said, arguing that
- 41:35the oracle overseen arrangement would neutralize any risk of Chinese interference.
- 41:41The app will be overseen by a seven member board
- 41:45of directors with national security and cybersecurity experience. Byte Dance
- 41:52we'll get to install one of its own representatives, but
- 41:55the US government will not, the White House official said.
- 41:59The names of all investors handboard members have not yet
- 42:03been disclosed. A Rati prab Kahar, Biden's science and tech advisor,
- 42:10said she worried that significant authoritarian dangers would still exist
- 42:15under the new structure. Why would we trust the licensed
- 42:19technology from byte dance anymore under this scenario. Why do
- 42:25we want a presidentially appointed board determining an algorithm for
- 42:30the company? She asks. The US government is expected to
- 42:35receive a transaction fee worth billions of dollars as part
- 42:40of the deal. One person familiar with the process said
- 42:44Trump demanded a similar payout during a failed attempt to
- 42:48force the app sale in twenty twenty, saying a very
- 42:51large percentage of the company's price tag should be paid
- 42:55into the US Treasury. Trump's signing of the order. Later
- 43:00this week, the White House official said, would initiate another
- 43:04one hundred and twenty day pause of the law, during
- 43:07which Byte Dance would sign a framework agreement naming the
- 43:12new investors. The White House official said they were one
- 43:17hundred percent confident China will approve the deal, but acknowledge
- 43:22that some hurdles remained, including regulatory and antitrust reviews on
- 43:27the Chinese and US sides. TikTok is one of the
- 43:32most influential media platforms in the US, playing a growing
- 43:37role in how Americans of all ages, but especially the young,
- 43:42learn about current events, follow influential figures, and participate in
- 43:47political debates. Top Democrats and Republicans have invested in accounts
- 43:54there with the hopes it could boost them in the
- 43:57future elections, and Trump, whose White head House just made
- 44:01an account, has said it helped him win the twenty
- 44:04twenty four race. From China side, However, the app is
- 44:09part of a social media industry that is seen as
- 44:12less important economically and geopolitically than sectors such as artificial
- 44:18intelligence or manufacturing. Tech analyst Rui Ma said Beijing officials
- 44:24have four years criticized the robbers logic that Washington used
- 44:30to force the app sale, saying it showed America's hypocrisy
- 44:35declaring China a heavy handed and kleptomaniac state. But the
- 44:40app's fate did offer Chinese negotiators real value as a
- 44:44bargaining chip, especially given Trump's robust pledges to save the app,
- 44:49said Ma founder of the research firm tech Buzz. China.
- 44:56In the US, TikTok is a cultural, commercial, and political
- 45:00force that Washington wants full control over. For Beijing, TikTok
- 45:07itself is far less important, she said. What matters in
- 45:12US China negotiations are structural issues such as barriers to
- 45:17trade and capital flows, which directly shaped the Chinese economy
- 45:22in people's livelihoods. These are much more important to both
- 45:26the government and ordinary citizens than the fate of an
- 45:29overseas app. Though the senior White House official characterized some
- 45:35of the negotiations as tough, and Treasury Secretary Scott Bissent
- 45:40said they included aggressive asks, the White House has yet
- 45:45to say what terms were reached to help seal the
- 45:47deal after months of vowing to block any deal. Chinese
- 45:51officials said last week that recent talks in Spain between
- 45:56the two superpowers had been in depth and constructed, and
- 46:00expressed tentative support for a deal based on mutual respect.
- 46:05Nicholas Burns, the former US ambassador of China who stepped
- 46:09down in January, welcomed the planned meeting between Trump and
- 46:14Chinese President Sizimping next month in South Korea, but said
- 46:19he hoped the administration would not agree to diminish the
- 46:22strong actions Biden took to, for instance, blocked the sale
- 46:26of China of advanced American technologies that could help the
- 46:30Chinese military compete against the US in the Indo Pacific.
- 46:35Alan Rosenstein, a former national security advisor to the Justice
- 46:40Department who is now a law professor at the University
- 46:43of Minnesota, said he worried about what the US had
- 46:47given away to preserve TikTok for its new American investors.
- 46:52The President may very well quote unquote save TikTok, but
- 46:58at what cost? He said. Z knows that Trump wants
- 47:03TikTok much more than China cares about it. I was
- 47:06a Chinese diplomat, I'd be delighted. Some observers are willing
- 47:12to give the negotiation teams the benefit of the doubt.
- 47:16Ryan Fittisuk, the former Biden administration official who is now
- 47:21a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, said he thought
- 47:25the deal offered the least offensive option before the Chinese
- 47:30and US negotiating teams and could help resolve some of
- 47:34Washington's lingering concerns about the potential for Chinese interference. But
- 47:40some terms of the deal, including byte Dance's continued ownership
- 47:44of the algorithm, would ensure that the concern over TikTok
- 47:49censorship and this information would continue. He said. The quiet
- 47:55truth is that Washington wants to keep a version of
- 47:58TikTok operation more than Beijing fear's losing access to the
- 48:03American social media market. He said, I'm not sure that
- 48:08concern is really addressed by allowing the licensing of an
- 48:12algorithm that is ultimately developed by bite Dance. And the
- 48:18next story. Supreme Court allows Trump to fire democratic member
- 48:23of the Trade Commission. The Supreme Court on Monday cleared
- 48:28the way for President Trump to fire the sole remaining
- 48:31Democrat on the Federal Trade Commission, the latest victory in
- 48:36his aggressive push to exert greater control over the federal bureaucracy.
- 48:42The justices overturned a lower court injunction that reinstated Rebecca
- 48:47Slaughter to her position with the agency that oversees antitrust
- 48:52and consumer protection issues while litigation over her removal works
- 48:57its way through the courts. Ruling, while provisional, is significant
- 49:03because the High Court also said it will hear arguments
- 49:06in December on overturning a ninety year old president that
- 49:11allowed Congress to set up independent, non partisan agencies insulated
- 49:17from political interference by the President if they do not
- 49:21wield executive power, as is customary in cases decided on
- 49:26the emerging emergency docket. The justices did not offer reasons
- 49:31for their ruling, and it was unsigned, so the vote
- 49:35count was unclear. The decision came over the objections of
- 49:40the Court's three liberal justices, who have regularly argued against
- 49:45such moves. In a series of rulings by the High
- 49:47Court allowing the President to fire the heads of several
- 49:52independent agencies, the majority stay order. By stay order, has
- 49:58handed full control of all those agencies to the president.
- 50:03Justice Elena Kagan wrote in her dissent, he may now remove,
- 50:08so says the majority, though Congress says differently. Any member
- 50:13he wishes for any reason or no reason at all,
- 50:18and he may thereby extinguish the agency's bipartisanship and independence.
- 50:24In nineteen thirty five, the Justices rule that President Franklin D.
- 50:29Roosevelt could not fireboard member of the FTC William Humphrey
- 50:34simply because he opposed the president's New Deal policies. Congress
- 50:40had stipulated that members could only be fired for inefficiency,
- 50:45neglect of duty, or malfeasans. The case is known as
- 50:49Humphrey's Executor versus the United States. The current Supreme Court
- 50:55has all but overturned that president in recent rulings. Justices
- 51:00allowed Trump to fire democratic members of the Consumer Product
- 51:04Safety Commission in July and members of the National Labor
- 51:08Relations Board and Merit Systems Protection Board in May. Trump
- 51:13gave no reason for the officials dismissals, despite statutes staying
- 51:18they could only be removed for cause. Because the Constitution
- 51:24vests the executive power in the president, the majority wrote
- 51:28in the May decision, he may remove without cause executive
- 51:33officers who exercised that power on his behalf, subject to
- 51:37narrow exceptions recognized by our precedents. A case involving Trump's
- 51:44bid to fire Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook has also
- 51:49made its way to the High Court. Trump has asked
- 51:52the justices to allow him to immediately remove Cook from
- 51:56her position. The court has not ruled on that request.
- 52:02Trump moved to fire Cook in August, claiming she had
- 52:06committed mortgage fraud. Cook sued, denying any wrongdoing and asserting
- 52:12that the allegations were a pretext to get rid of
- 52:14her so Trump could push the FED to lower interest rates.
- 52:19The Justices have suggested that the constitutional rules governing the
- 52:24FED may differ for those federal agencies like the FTC.
- 52:30A federal appeals court has blocked the firing of Cook
- 52:33for the time being. Trump dismissed Slaughter and the second
- 52:37Democratic member of the five member FTC, Alvarado Badoya, in March.
- 52:43Slaughter and Bedoya filed a lawsuit soon after, saying the
- 52:48President had overstepped his authority. Doya eventually resigned from the commission.
- 52:55In July, A federal judge rule for Slaughter, saying Trump
- 52:59had illegally dismissed her. A divided appeals court found the
- 53:04president removed Slaughter without cause, which was illegal under the
- 53:08Humphreys executor President. Supreme Court Chief Justice John G. Roberts
- 53:14Junior issued a temporary ruling this month allowing Trump to
- 53:18remove Slaughter while the High Court was deciding whether to
- 53:22act on her case. Trump officials argued in their appeal
- 53:27to the High Court that the FTC that exists today
- 53:30is far different from the Commission in nineteen thirty five,
- 53:34which exercised much more limited powers, so Humphrey's executor was
- 53:40no longer the controlling precedent. They sided the Court's recent
- 53:44rulings allowing the president to remove independent agency heads as
- 53:48more relevant. The modern FTC has amassed considerable executive power
- 53:55in the intervening ninety years, powers that equal or exceeds
- 53:59that of the National Labor Relations Board, Merit System Protection Board,
- 54:04and the Consumer Product Safety Commission, government attorneys wrote. Slaughter's
- 54:09attorneys said she would continue to fight her removal. Congress
- 54:15gave independent regulators removal protections to preserve the integrity of
- 54:20our economy, her attorneys set in a statement. Giving the
- 54:24executive branch unchecked power over who sets on these boards
- 54:28and commissions would have seismic implications for our economy that
- 54:34will harm ordinary Americans. On Monday. The Supreme Court also
- 54:40turned aside requests by members of the Merit Protection Systems
- 54:44Board and National Labor Relations Board fired by Trump to
- 54:49hear their cases before lower courts issue final judgments. And finally,
- 54:56Trump touts the Navy and avoids GOP nominee for governor
- 55:00a Virginia visit in his first time addressing a crowd
- 55:04in Virginia since his election, President Trump embraced the power
- 55:08and pageantry of the US Navy, but steered clear of
- 55:11the state's race for governor, a notable omission for a
- 55:15president who rarely passes up political opportunity. Virginia's November fourth election,
- 55:21one of two statewide races in the country this year,
- 55:25is widely reviewed as a referendum on the Trump administration
- 55:29and a tune up for next year's congressional mid terms.
- 55:33Polls consistently have shown the Democrat on track to flip
- 55:37a seat Republicans currently hold lieutenant governor win some early seers,
- 55:43the GOP candidate has lagged by a wide margin in
- 55:47both fundraising and polling against Democrat Abigail span Berger. Some
- 55:53Republicans have criticized Earl Seers for running an eccentric and
- 55:58low key campaign. The Sunday event in Norfolk, at the
- 56:03nation's largest naval base, could have been a chance for
- 56:06Trump to inject fresh energy into Earlsear's campaign. The candidate attended,
- 56:13sitting in the front row of the VIP section, but
- 56:16Trump did not mention her name. Instead, the President focused
- 56:21on heralding the muscle of the Navy and the highlighting
- 56:24issues he knows are popular with his base, including crime
- 56:28fighting in major cities, ending wars around the world, and
- 56:33railing against a culture he sees as to woke. The
- 56:38gathering was advertised as a celebration of the United States
- 56:42Navy's two hundred and fiftieth birthday. Over several hours, Trump
- 56:47watched destroyers launch missiles and fire shells into the ocean.
- 56:52He landed in Marine one on the deck of the
- 56:55towering carrier as the top gun anthem blasted over the
- 56:58speakers descended a red staircase as sailors shouted USA, this
- 57:05is a rally, Trump said from the stage between the
- 57:08two warships. This is sort of a rally, let's face it.
- 57:13He spoke to a crowd of about ten thousand sailors,
- 57:16who largely did not respond to Trump's more partisan lines,
- 57:20but plotted loudly when he said he would support pay
- 57:24raises for service members and make sure they are paid
- 57:27despite the government shutdown. Sailor's next paychecks are scheduled for
- 57:32October fifteenth. They will miss them if Democrats and Republicans
- 57:37in Congress cannot find a compromise on a federal money bill,
- 57:41but like civilian workers, will be paid retroactively when the
- 57:45shutdown ends. Despite the current Democratic induced shut down, we
- 57:50will get our service members every last penny, Trump said.
- 57:55The sailors, for the most part, stayed silent when Trump
- 57:58characterized Democrats, says mat on our shoulder, or discussed the
- 58:02crime cracked down in American cities. Some sailors clapped when
- 58:06Trump said we're not politically correct anymore. We win. Supporters
- 58:13for the president was more evident, however, than it was
- 58:16last week when Trump addressed hundreds of the US military's
- 58:19top leaders in a highly partisan address. Then generals and
- 58:23admirals set mostly silent, in keeping with the military's non
- 58:28partisan tradition. And this concludes the reading of the Washington
- 58:33Post for today, Monday, October sixth. Your reader has been
- 58:36Rod Brotherton If you have any questions, comments, or suggestions
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