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Prepare For Crypto Chaos!🔥Tangem INTERVIEW & Updates · The Paul Barron Crypto Show

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  Speaker 1: Today is going to be a cautionary tale of how
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  Speaker 1: to do self custy and it's very important because the
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  Speaker 1: market is about to blow. You don't want to be
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  Speaker 1: caught on the wrong side. My name is Paul Burrew
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  Speaker 1: and welcome back into the show today. It's going to
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  Speaker 1: be good because we'll get into self custy and why
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  Speaker 1: it is so important. If you have not seen some
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  Speaker 1: of the shows we've done before, Tangum who is a
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  Speaker 1: Channel partner, and this is a self custody wallet. It's
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  Speaker 1: one of the best out there, I think in terms
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  Speaker 1: of use. We of course have done several shows with David.
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  Speaker 1: Will have him on here in a minute to kind
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  Speaker 1: of break down what you should be doing around self custody.
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  Speaker 1: And the reason is very simple. What has happened over
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  Speaker 1: the past few times where we've seen market explosions is
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  Speaker 1: often we see these centralized exchanges start to get a
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  Speaker 1: little bit dicey. This of course is Coinbase's notable outages
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  Speaker 1: during crypto price spikes. This is the problem that will
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  Speaker 1: happen again, guys. This is not going to be going away.
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  Speaker 1: So we saw bitcoin here recently on July tenth, downtime
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  Speaker 1: three to five percent or three to five times traffic spike.
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  Speaker 1: That was the issue when it hit sixty nine thousand.
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  Speaker 1: We saw the outage back in June of twenty we
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  Speaker 1: saw that one of course, when it spiked from ninety
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  Speaker 1: six to ten three. Those are the kind of things
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  Speaker 1: that will occur in the market. It's another way to
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  Speaker 1: avoid all that is to get into self custody so
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  Speaker 1: that you can be able to manage that. And just
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  Speaker 1: as a cautionary tale that you should be looking at
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  Speaker 1: self custody as a tool and as a major strategy
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  Speaker 1: of how you're running crypto. So to do that, I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to bring in Tangum, one of our channel partners,
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  Speaker 1: and David Wolsher. It's great to see you again. How
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  Speaker 1: are you?
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Paul. It's a pleasure to be here again.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's right on the fourth time
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  Speaker 2: to have the chance to talk to you, to the
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  Speaker 2: community and yeah, just help the people a little bit
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  Speaker 2: better tracked on the market, to be on the safe
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  Speaker 2: side of the belly and make everything correct and in
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  Speaker 2: the right matter of time.
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  Speaker 1: You bet so. A couple of things we will get into, guys,
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  Speaker 1: is the roadmap for Tangent. What kind of new features
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  Speaker 1: they've done, but one of the things to watch out
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  Speaker 1: for is this kind of issue that occurs with hardware.
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  Speaker 1: This of course Ledger facing a little bit of backlash
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  Speaker 1: over ending the Nanos hardware wallet support. Don't forget that
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  Speaker 1: Ledger did have that security alert. This of course is
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  Speaker 1: a couple of years old, but this was when they
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  Speaker 1: had the whole Connecticut problem. That's where you get into
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  Speaker 1: these kind of scenarios where you believe in software wallets
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  Speaker 1: hardware wallets, always just do your due diligence on what
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  Speaker 1: you're doing. For self cussing, and of course Tangum has
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  Speaker 1: been one of the I think the better ones out there,
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  Speaker 1: but I want to kind of reference the possibility of
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  Speaker 1: stable coin yields, any kind of planning for stable coin
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  Speaker 1: yields within the Tangent wallet.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, for sure, stable COINI is also topic for us,
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  Speaker 2: but I cannot definitely say yes we do that. On ay,
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  Speaker 2: we don't do that. And what I have to say,
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  Speaker 2: we really are very addicted to the feet pick of
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  Speaker 2: the community. So okay, more users say hey, Tangum, we
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  Speaker 2: need this, we want that, we want that feature on
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  Speaker 2: that coin, we want that opportunity, shoot it to us
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  Speaker 2: by email. That's the very best way. Because Tangum is
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  Speaker 2: listening very closely to the feed pick of users.
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  Speaker 1: Well, listen to this one because I think r l
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  Speaker 1: USD is going to be one that you guys should have.
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  Speaker 1: And this of course is Brad Gardinghouse hitting on this
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  Speaker 1: very point as the number one trusted stable coin out there.
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  Speaker 1: And this is coming of course from blue Chip just
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  Speaker 1: to give you an example of this ripple leading the
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  Speaker 1: way at an A rating. Then you've got Gemini coming
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  Speaker 1: in Packsos, PayPal all that, So this would be a
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  Speaker 1: good list to start with. David, for sure, when you
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  Speaker 1: look at in general the comparison between self custody devices,
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  Speaker 1: you compare against Ledger versus something like a Tangum, Explain
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  Speaker 1: to me how Tangum is really different for our audience
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  Speaker 1: who are brand new to self custody.
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  Speaker 2: You can set up that hardware world without any knowledge
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  Speaker 2: within three to five minutes. You don't need to download
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  Speaker 2: any additional networks. You don't have limited capacity when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to networks. Everything is completely installed and you're ready
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  Speaker 2: to rock the market. And yeah, store your assets in
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  Speaker 2: the very safest way from minute one on without download
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  Speaker 2: anything else. Also, what's a very unique feature to us
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  Speaker 2: is Tangum is one hundred percent open source. You can
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  Speaker 2: really identify all the different software steps directly on GitHub.
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  Speaker 2: I think this is the key. There is no way
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  Speaker 2: that software should be closed. And we, as Tangium, are
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  Speaker 2: the only HeartWare wallet that successfully passed two individual thermware
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  Speaker 2: audits in the past without any complaints, no backdoors, no options,
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  Speaker 2: nothing that is really I mean, I can go on
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  Speaker 2: for an an hour, but I think these are the
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  Speaker 2: major key points.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and I think that draws to the point of
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  Speaker 1: connect You know when you look at just the connect
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  Speaker 1: kit with Ledger, these software updates that often occur with
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  Speaker 1: these hardware devices like a Ledger. That's one of the
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  Speaker 1: reasons that we kind of have gone the route of
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  Speaker 1: the card and the app. They work fluidly together, so
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  Speaker 1: very easy. David, What else is the Tantum team looking
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  Speaker 1: for in these very aggressive market moves? So we've seen
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  Speaker 1: when markets just go parabolic and typically centralized exchanges start
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  Speaker 1: to struggle a little bit just to keep up with
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  Speaker 1: the volume, the amount of site visits, all that kind
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  Speaker 1: of thing. What are you guys coaching your users to
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  Speaker 1: watch for next other than keep some of your assets
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  Speaker 1: on you know, self custom wallets.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we all the time teach peace do
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  Speaker 2: first of all a test transaction and maybe five to
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  Speaker 2: ten dollars value to really make sure that you hit
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  Speaker 2: the right network, that you really have the right address,
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  Speaker 2: et cetera, so that you don't lose your funds. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: self custody is a gift, but it's also some kind
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  Speaker 2: of punishment because it's you who's reliable for that. If
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  Speaker 2: you lose your assets, it's your problem. So we also
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  Speaker 2: have cross chain swap solutions and that also helps minimize
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  Speaker 2: the risk of getting assets lost by maybe setting the
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  Speaker 2: wrong network, getting hacked or anything else. And also you
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  Speaker 2: reduce the fees and this is definitely a level of comfort,
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  Speaker 2: so you don't need to use one of the exchanges
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  Speaker 2: when they're totally outdated because of high volume, high user entrances.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if you're going to take a look to
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  Speaker 2: the EPP downloads, robin Hood coinbase and I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what's the third one is. I mean, they bumped up
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  Speaker 2: from ranking twenty five to right now and I think they're
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  Speaker 2: ranking ten in the EPP downloads. It's pretty importantly impressive.
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  Speaker 2: To see and with this rising users, you also may
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  Speaker 2: end up in peak times that you're not capable to
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  Speaker 2: sell your assets. And this is what we do. We
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  Speaker 2: help the user to directly swap your assets on your
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  Speaker 2: Tangum app without any hesitations.
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  Speaker 1: And when you look at the swap capability within Tangum,
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  Speaker 1: the partners that you guys have now and the fees
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  Speaker 1: that are charged within that, how does that work within
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  Speaker 1: the Tangum ecosystem. Are you looking to add any new partners,
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  Speaker 1: especially for swap for speed, because I know there's often
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  Speaker 1: a list where you can choose which one you want
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  Speaker 1: to swap bond give many updates there.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, sir, So in general we have right now I
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  Speaker 2: think eight or nine different partners, from decentralized exchanges to
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  Speaker 2: centralized exchanges. So for example one inch is connected with
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  Speaker 2: okay extas. We also have change le Change now, change
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  Speaker 2: Hero and Tensium is all the time selecting the very
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  Speaker 2: best partner or the very best pair to save you
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  Speaker 2: fees and also time for example, so the swaps can
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  Speaker 2: from time to time take a minute or two longer
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  Speaker 2: because these exchanges also working in the background, checking liquidity,
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  Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. But in the great scheme of things,
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  Speaker 2: it's definitely the more affordable version of sending your assets
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  Speaker 2: from your wallet to the exchange what creates fees, then
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  Speaker 2: also swap it on the exchange, what also creates fees,
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  Speaker 2: and then maybe send it back to your wallet because
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  Speaker 2: you want to hold it, maybe be prepared for the
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  Speaker 2: next bearer market. So I mean, this is just a circle.
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  Speaker 2: What definitely creates issues, hesitations, and also fees. But we're
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  Speaker 2: working on a feature that call send via swap. So
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  Speaker 2: what does that mean, Paul. Just imagine you're buying a
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  Speaker 2: brand new, nice truck, you know, maybe a gim C
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  Speaker 2: or whatever you like, and the dealer is accepting bitcoin,
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  Speaker 2: or let me say he's accepting use the T and
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  Speaker 2: you have your big bitcoin portfolio with you in your
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  Speaker 2: Tangum wallet, and what you're going to have to do
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  Speaker 2: typically is grab your bitcoin, swap it to use d T,
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  Speaker 2: and then send it to the dealer. So that could
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  Speaker 2: take I don't know, five minutes, ten minutes. And what
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  Speaker 2: we're going to do is with the new features sent
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  Speaker 2: via swap, you can directly put in the receiving address
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  Speaker 2: of your car dealer. Then you grab your bitcoin and
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  Speaker 2: say I want to send the amount of sixty and
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  Speaker 2: ninety nine U S dollars to this dealer, And what
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  Speaker 2: Tantrum is doing in the background, it's swapping bitcoin to
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  Speaker 2: use the t and send it to a dealer, and
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  Speaker 2: you only pay the fee for the swap, not for
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  Speaker 2: the cent. So it's an absolutely quality of life feature
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  Speaker 2: that the community was asked. And what was the really
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  Speaker 2: great input from the community that we're implementing within the
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  Speaker 2: next updates.
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  Speaker 1: What about the speed of a swap showing back up
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  Speaker 1: in your wallet immediately? So in some swaps you'll see
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  Speaker 1: an exchange it's going out to changele We'll use them
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  Speaker 1: as an example. It disappears from the asset, does not
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  Speaker 1: repopulate in the new asset over sometimes minutes. Sometimes I've
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  Speaker 1: seen it as long as an hour. What is these
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  Speaker 1: is there? Are you guys doing anything to increase that
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  Speaker 1: speed so transactions are immediately recognized across all assets.
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  Speaker 2: What we have right now is good, but it's not perfect, honestly,
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  Speaker 2: so we have to provide more information. So there's also
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of new things coming up. We're definitely working
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  Speaker 2: on topics like that to maybe show some kind of Hey,
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  Speaker 2: this is the status. Hey, this is where we're working
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  Speaker 2: on right now. Next step is receiving your funds. You
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  Speaker 2: know that the user see a little bit more because
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  Speaker 2: the problem is if if you have it there, you
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  Speaker 2: you refresh the page and you see it, I mean
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  Speaker 2: you sure, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think the transaction detail improvements will will help
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  Speaker 1: soften the blow of that when people see, okay, the
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  Speaker 1: transaction is in Q. It's much like when we're seeing
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  Speaker 1: it unchain. Let's get into some of the updates that
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  Speaker 1: you have made, uh, the Tangent market updates. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: now you've got this new security score, which is pretty cool,
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  Speaker 1: available exchanges, and then also the news feed, all of
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  Speaker 1: which I've got a couple of screenshots. Here is an
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  Speaker 1: example of Solana and the security score that is now
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  Speaker 1: within it, so that I think is a welcome benefit
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  Speaker 1: to the app itself.
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  Speaker 2: So the market news specifically, this is something we're on
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  Speaker 2: the determination when we're going to bring that out, because
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  Speaker 2: this is really something that's crucial because we want to
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  Speaker 2: help the people really stay in the app, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, can achieve that the people safe time, they
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  Speaker 2: really have everything in one spot, you know, that's that's
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  Speaker 2: crucial to us the safety rating. This is something that
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  Speaker 2: we should have life right now, and that is something
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  Speaker 2: we really worked a long time on that because we
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  Speaker 2: really want to help people understand, hey, is that an
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  Speaker 2: asset what's probably trustful because of the teams dogs, you
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  Speaker 2: can see all the toconomics live YadA YadA YadA, or
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  Speaker 2: is it really some kind of that low market cap
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  Speaker 2: or that nanocap that you should not embass a lot
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  Speaker 2: in there. So we really want to help the people
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  Speaker 2: get a good foot on the market and not get
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  Speaker 2: burned very very quick. So yeah, we're working on additional
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  Speaker 2: features as well. One of that is also the multi
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  Speaker 2: accounts what we also spoke i think last time in
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  Speaker 2: our meeting, where we make sure that you have additional
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  Speaker 2: addresses for bitcoin, ethereum, et cetera, that you can maybe
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  Speaker 2: build up some kind of a saving wallet, you know,
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  Speaker 2: some kind of a working wallet and maybe also for
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  Speaker 2: text reason. I mean, this is also something that could
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  Speaker 2: become very interesting. And the multi accounts just bumped a
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  Speaker 2: little bit behind.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So no multi count yet. Is it coming
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  Speaker 1: though not now?
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  Speaker 2: It is coming, and we're working very hard on that.
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  Speaker 2: We want that, we need that and we know the
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  Speaker 2: community is asking for that, but it is on our
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  Speaker 2: to do list.
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  Speaker 1: One other thing, of course, just as a note, I've
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  Speaker 1: got another screenshot here of this one. This shows the
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  Speaker 1: centralized exchanges and their ratings. So it kind of gives
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  Speaker 1: you a little bit of insight when you're out there
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  Speaker 1: purchasing where you should be going to other things from
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: self custody stocks. So let's talk about this for a second.
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  Speaker 1: I was looking at your post right here, your keys,
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  Speaker 1: your stocks available on Tangent for both Solana and Arbitrum.
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  Speaker 1: You've got good example. There is coin x, Apple, x,
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  Speaker 1: Nvidia x, et cetera. This is now token is security
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  Speaker 1: is being able to be held within a self custody wallet.
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  Speaker 1: So great innovation.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this is a really big topic for US.
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  Speaker 2: Synthetic stocks is something that the mark It has developed
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  Speaker 2: already I think two and a half for three years ago.
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  Speaker 2: This become very interesting in countries where cryptos get raided
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  Speaker 2: differently than stocks. So for example, here in Germany, you
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  Speaker 2: don't pay any taxes if you hold your cryptos for
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: longer than three hundred and sixty five days. So after
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  Speaker 2: the three hundred and sixty six day, your taxes for
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  Speaker 2: crypto for spot cryptos free. If you're going to do
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  Speaker 2: that with a synthetic stock like for example, like an
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  Speaker 2: Apple stock, you don't pay any tax on the stock.
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  Speaker 2: What's phenomenon? So, I mean, this is a key topic,
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  Speaker 2: and we saw things like that coming on say Network.
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  Speaker 2: There is a very big marketplace that are also doing that.
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  Speaker 2: We see Ethereum recently moving to that point as well,
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  Speaker 2: a couple of projects on that, and I think that's
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  Speaker 2: the future. I think that's definitely more flexible than the
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  Speaker 2: recent stock brokers that we have out there, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: more than happy that our team saw that development option
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  Speaker 2: and is working on that hardly.
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  Speaker 1: I think I don't know that that's been available on
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  Speaker 1: any other self custody, So that is a pretty big
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  Speaker 1: innovation going forward. So kudos to you guys. Looking at
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  Speaker 1: the roadmap, let's take a look at Q one NFTs,
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  Speaker 1: which we'll talk about here in a second. I know
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  Speaker 1: you're going to show something on screen here, but obviously
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  Speaker 1: this will show a little bit more NFTs DeFi Interactions
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  Speaker 1: improve Transaction History, which we just talked about earlier, and
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  Speaker 1: then AI news. This is what you're talking about is
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  Speaker 1: where we'll get a little bit more news notification. Let's
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  Speaker 1: go to can you show us on the wallet, for instance,
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  Speaker 1: an example of what the NFTs are going to look
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  Speaker 1: like in the app itself. Can you give us a
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  Speaker 1: sneak peek?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, sir, And I'm more than proud of that because
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  Speaker 2: I know that we have spoken about things like that,
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  Speaker 2: I think at the very first time, roughly one and
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  Speaker 2: a half or two years ago.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: While yeah, and so.
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  Speaker 2: What are you going to do? You go to the
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  Speaker 2: three dots on the top, select your wallet and just
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  Speaker 2: check the mark n FT and that's all you have
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  Speaker 2: to do. Go down and hey, wella you see some NFTs.
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  Speaker 2: I think got a bunch of trash over there. Let's
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: maybe click on that here. Yeah, this is my female minor.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: This is my car. I had a Dodge Grand Caravan there.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: So but yeah, long story short, we have it available
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  Speaker 2: right now. It took a little bit longer, but like
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: I said, quality comes first, attentionent. That's important for us
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  Speaker 2: that we make sure that all our feature features that
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: are tested valid and does not have any topics where
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: you can maybe interact and hack something.
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  Speaker 1: Any other things that you can talk about for next
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  Speaker 1: quarter that are going to be the big releases on
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  Speaker 1: the roadmap.
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  Speaker 2: What is also a big topic for us is, for example,
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  Speaker 2: additional staking opportunities. So right now we have really a
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: lot of a lot of options to stake your assets
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  Speaker 2: directly on tensent with a very good yield. And also,
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  Speaker 2: I mean I actually showed a little bit. I have
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: my Burner wallet and whenever I do staking by world
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: connect to a third party, I just only use my
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: Burner wallet. I don't use my Hoddle wallet. With our
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: internal staking models, you are absolutely free and don't need
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  Speaker 2: to have any let me say, hesitations that you may
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: be sign a malicious contract, you get a wallet drain,
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: or you get hacked. You know, so, bra I mean,
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  Speaker 2: this is most likely the topic. And we're also planning
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  Speaker 2: to integrate pocket, dot Cardano and ton Network, probably in
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  Speaker 2: qq Q three. And we're also working on additional support
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  Speaker 2: for our users when it comes to integration of text
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  Speaker 2: tools like one click integrations that you don't need to
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  Speaker 2: manually integrate everything. But this is something for the future.
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  Speaker 2: We know that the market is asking for that, We
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: know that regulations are coming, We know that the government
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: really want to know everything, and we want to make
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  Speaker 2: sure that you can control what you're going to give
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  Speaker 2: away in informations and not anybody else.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: That's one that I have to ask you about is
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: going to be onboarding being able to get and buy
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: crypto right now. Obviously we've got Mercurio, simple Ax, couple
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: others that are available. What about coinbase or Robinhood being
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: able to be introduced into the platform.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: So the current option of directly buy and sell cryptos
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: buy feared by US dollar, by urup, by whatever. This
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: is really let me call it an absolutely emergency option
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: because fees are too high. You're going to really have
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: to completely kwa see, and that's not what we want,
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: you know, because we're in crypto, so we're in the
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: crypto business. What we're doing right now, we're exploring many
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: many more options, additional suppliers that can help us serve
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: the community much better, reduce the fees, increase the speed.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: I cannot announce the names, but I think you call
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: it some interesting ones. Let me call it that way.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, I like that. I like that statement right there.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Let's go over to the topic of the XRP ledger tokens,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: because here's the XP market, A lot of opportunity, a
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: lot of potential here. Really, Gamen in general has been
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: pretty much the token wallet for any XRP ecosystem out there.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: What about XRP ledger tokens anytime soon?
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: I'm I really would love to have the option to
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: have the trust line built up to the exorp ledger
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: that you can also put on your exorp tokens. I mean,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of the project. I had right
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: now sold a little bit at three dollars, you know,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: made some gains, but I also hold a couple off
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: niche projects in healthcare management, also in payment solutions directly
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: from xop ledger. Unfortunately, we do not have enough feedback
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: from the community, and here's my shout out to you,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen. Would be great if you can just
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: help our team. Just shoot an email to support Attention
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: to come help them understand we need the excorped.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, guys, if you're on the if you're in the
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: XRP army and you want an extra wallet out there,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: here's a good example of how you guys can do it.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: We'll drop this on x so you guys can amplify
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: it to the Tantum team. Last point I want to
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: get at is the ring. So we have a beef
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: with the rank. It's very complicated. I won't say complicated,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: it's very specific of where you have to place it.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: For those of you that don't know, Tantum has little
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: cards that are used as the primary wallet. You can
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: get three cards that we always leave a link where
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: you can do that. So those cards they work with
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: an app very easy. But you also have the ring.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: And the ring is i think the cool feature, but
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: you do have to obviously take it off, but it
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: also has to kind of be in the right place
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: to be able to get a transaction to go through.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: What is going on with that? Is that a purpose design?
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Give us a little bit input.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: When we started developing the ring, we had a lot
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: of topics like hesitations, Hey, what is if somebody steals
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: your phone? You're in a bar, you know, I mean,
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: you're just hanging around and ladies and gentlemen who knows
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: what that is know what's the value of it? So
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, and therefore we decided very very early on
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: to not make the ring working in that way. And
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: I'm going to switch back my camera. You just can
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: sign a transaction by just holding the ring when you
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: have it on your finger. So what's definitely the reason
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: is to ensure proper safety and also quality of your transactions.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: You're gonna grab the ring and hold it to your
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: phone to the right spot so you can sign the transaction.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Let me take it here. I think I have to
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: unlocked my phone because I got an Indian mode, So
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: that's that's a showing effect. Okay. Anyway, you're definitely gonna
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: have to put the ring in the right position without
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: your suitcase, without your your phone case. I think this
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: is the version that I have not set it up
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: because I got my other one laying on my desk.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we get it to work, but it
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: just takes a little bit more time. Obviously. The card
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: I feel is the one that is just almost instantaneous.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: It works fantastically. Hey David, it's been good having you on.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: By the way, we're gonna drop something cool and that
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: is we're gonna do some Tantrum card giveaways. We're going
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: to do that in the Diamond Circle. So if you
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: guys are not part of the Diamond Circle, get in
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: right now. That's our email list, and then we'll do
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: a random drawing. We'll announce them on the show, we'll
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: send you guys some Tangum cards and you guys can
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: get into your self custody journey. It's going to be
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: a cool one. Always. We leave a link down below
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: to get in involved in that, of course, and David,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: thanks again for coming in today. We appreciate it.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having us. It's a great pleasure.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: And whenever you ladies and gentlemen have any questions, feel
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: free to also join our social media platforms like discord, Telegram.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: I'm also linked in. We're also on YouTube. I mean,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: you can really find us everywhere and peace be aware
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: of scammers. We do not do any private chat. We
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: do not do any private support. Everything's only done officially,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: only by email, I mean email lists for sure. Private support,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I think most everybody.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Else there, Yeah, I think most of our viewers and
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: listeners they understand hopefully they've been in crypto long enough
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: to understand. These phishing attempts are pretty rampant out there.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: This is happening in the banking industry, It's happening everywhere.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: So you guys should always practice very very secure processes,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: double check, assume everything is bad until you can prove
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: that it's not so just good cautious recommendations out there.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: But again, thanks for stopping in today, David.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: We appreciate it. Thank you.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Bye you bet all right, So you guys, as I said,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: get into the Dim Circle, we're gonna drop some good
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: stuff to you over there for some free Tangent cards
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: and of course follow me out there on X at
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Paul Baron. We'll catch you next time right here on
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: The Paul Baron Show.