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- Kiki George: What happens when breaking up leads to a breakdown? This is the Minor Mischief Podcast, and this is the story of Jahara Malik. Welcome back. Welcome, welcome, welcome. I'm really glad you're here. Don't forget to share the show so I won't be in tears. Hey! Welcome back to the Minor Mischief Podcast. I am your host and homegirl for the time being, Mrs. Kiana Amir. And thank you for hanging out with me. Today, we have a special guest author, writer, director, influencer, chef. Chauffeur, drinking buddy, producer. Am I missing any of your titles? I don't think so, no. Okay. My very, very best friend of me, Mr. Kenneth Price. Tell us a little bit about yourself, Kenneth. well, First of all, thank you for having me. It's a little daunting. you kind of just summed me up in a big ball. I'm writer. I I like to write. I love to write. I love to tell stories. I like to share stories with other people. I make movies, short films. I've dabbled in authoring. I have a couple of books out if you would like to get one of them. So we're gonna I'm gonna link the Amazon page for your books in the show notes just in case anyone's interested in purchasing. Well, yes, and Kenneth has a web s well, it's not really a web series because it's on Prime, but he does have a show on Amazon Prime called No Rest for the Wicked. All the episodes are available to what eight episodes. Yes. So yeah, definitely check out his show and you know, we'll go from there. So today, today's story had both me and Kenneth Reeling because it was just so senseless, so stupid, and it just gets to a point. Like, we're just like in general, this is just a disclaimer. If someone breaks up with you or if they don't want to be with you, respectfully, let them go. So let's get into it, shall we? Let's do it. We shall we shall you're supposed to say we shout. You are the third? Yes. Do does anybody listen to this podcast? Every week. On the show, you did it wrong. My best honor on your bedtime. We shall, we shall thank you. Forgive me, Sensei. No. So today's episode, we are back in the sunny streets of Florida. Yes, that's right, Florida. Florida. What is going on down there? Listen, we both have Florida stories. You hear me? We do. my gosh. And we're we're probably gonna share a couple while we're on here, but you know, it's that's that's fine. Definitely well. But when it comes to Florida, it's just like I always ask myself the question, what's going on down there? Like, is there something in the water? This is Minor Mischief's twentieth episode. Thank you, thank you very much. And twenty five percent of our cases have taken place in Florida. I do love Florida, so shout out to y'all. I just can't live there anymore and no, I will not be explaining. So for today's episode, let's head on down to Miami Dade County, which I thought was in the southernmost part of Florida, but I forgot about Key West, which is Monroe County. Also, Kenneth, speaking of things I didn't know, did you know that oxtails are just cowtails? I didn't know that. I did not know that either. Are you sure? They are actually it's cowtails. Yeah. I thought an ox was a totally different animal. It's male cow tails. What? My whole life has been a lie. It My siblings roasted me so hard about it. I can imagine. I'm like, why would I pay $30 a pound for cowtails? That doesn't even make sense. See, there's a good reason another good reason why I don't eat beef anymore. That's right, you don't eat beef. I don't. Still wondering why. I mean, you're not missing out much. I would I would sell a left kidney for juicy T bone steak. Yeah. I think steak and hamburgers is what I would miss. Cheeseburgers, specific. So it it just well, h hamburgers not so much because with if you if you find the right person to make the the right kind of turkey burger, okay it's really good and it's a great substitute. But there is no substitute for a steak. Especially a T bone steak. Yeah. man, I would devour that in a heartbeat, but we all know what that would do to me if I even took a morsel of it. 'Cause it's what, ten years since you had steak lasts? Yeah, ten plus years. Yeah, you would probably yeah, insides would probably lament. Yeah. My insides probably it's probably gonna be like, yo, bro, what what what are you doing to me right now? What is this foreign object that you just put into us? No, seriously. So usually this is the part of the show where I say what each place is known for, but I feel like Miami, we all know Miami. We love Miami, we admire Miami. Miami is known for its gorgeous sand beaches, vibrant nightlife, the food. The food. I'm not sure anyone does De Sayuno like Miami, like maybe Texas or LA. I've not been to Texas, but I'm hoping to make it by the end of the year. Have you been to Texas, Kenneth? I have been to Texas twice. Once once for a concert and the other time for I I I I guess you can't really count that. Maybe just once, a layover. I don't think layovers count. so just once for a concert. I mean, I do count my layover in Arizona as being in Arizona, but I do tell them like I like I walked around. You know what I'm saying? I looked at the sky. I never left the airport when I if I ever touch landed in a state that that I got laid over in. Gotcha. So Miami Colorado. I would love to go to Colorado actually. Yeah, my layover was like twelve hours and there was no way I was sitting in the airport for twelve hours. I would be exploring life. I I did. And I was over it after like hour three. So Miami also has an amazing art district. I think it's called Winwood. And fun fact, ninety per s ninety five percent of the fights that I have gotten into with strangers were in Miami. I'm not an aggressive person, right, Kenneth. I don't think I should lie to your audience. I'm not an aggressive person. Yeah, we're we're you know what? My mother always told me not to lie, so I'm not I'm you know what? I know good and damn well you are not letting your mother into this. If you think you're not an aggressive person. Anyway, so I'm not an aggressive person forget what I said. And I'm not an aggressive person, but I cannot stand somebody being rude. Like it just makes me want to outrude you and I don't know when to stop. So in Florida we meet Jahara Malik, who is our mischief maker, and Yakim Lawler, who is the star of our show, but also unfortunately is our victim. Joaquim Lawler, who goes by chemo, and we will be addressing him as such in part two of today's episode. he was born to his parents, Darvid Lawler Senior and Natalie Jean. He's probably of Haitian descent. Like I'm I mean, Natalie Jean. He he's probably Haitian. Yeah, that's I c I kinda got that too when I was watching. you know, videos of his family and stuff and pictures of him. Yeah. He gotta be Haitian. Yeah. But n un speculation, this has not been confirmed. But I love shout out to Haiti. If so, I love y'all so much. And also, Kenneth, have you ever had Haitian mac and cheese? Haitian mac and cheese is top tier. Never. if there's no meat in it, I'm always open to try it. is d I don't think there's meat in it. My one of my really good friends, she makes Haitian mac and cheese and I like it's it's so good. It's so delicious. I have had it, I think, once with ham in it, but the person that I'm referring to, she doesn't eat I'm pretty sure she doesn't eat pork. So next time she makes me a pen, I will make sure you come over and get some. So chemo, which I would hate that nickname if that was my nickname. I would hate that nickname. I was when I was like watching when I was watching videos and reading articles on them, they're like Short for Kim, I'm like, I hate that nickname. We couldn't have thought of like a a different nickname like Yahya or Yah or something. Not Yah. Or Keem. I would have called him Keem. Like I I'll be like my boy Keem. But ya, I can't be like Yah. Soldier boys tell him. That's what it remind of. Anyway. So Kemo was described as a good kid, a straight A student, a star athlete who loved football and never got into any kind of trouble. He had dreams of becoming an NFL superstar or he had a backup plan. He wanted to be a stockbroker if that didn't pan out. At the time of the story, he was a senior at Miami Northwestern High School. Go Bulls. That is a fire mascot. And if that was my high school, I would not shut up about it. Also, fun fact, Miami Northwestern High School is one of two historically black high schools in Miami, because there are only two. Now, Jahara Malik was born in either 2008 or 2009. Finding information on her, Kenneth can attest, dragged me. Like I Googled, I finally broke down like at the very end of my research and I was like, Chat GPT, can you please scour every inch? Like, I was like, Can you please scour every inch of the internet? And found me her birth parents. I resed to use AI. AI is the death of society. But I should have. I I I I didn't even think of to use GBP. It's genuinely the devil. I j I try like when it comes to case research, I don't use AI because I want to do the research, get all the information. It probably would be easier if I just said, Hey, write this up for me, but I'm just I can't. I'm I'm a writer and I'm sensitive about my stuff. But I Like at the end, after we talked earlier and we were like, Why can't we find any of her information? I went on Chat GPT and I was no, it was co pilot. I used copilot. I went on copilot and I was like, Can you please just scour every inch of the internet and tell me if you can find Jahara Malik's parents' name, her date of birth, what was she like as a kid, any diagnosis, like help me. And it said no, nothing. They did not really talk about like her background in the case, which is crazy. To me. Regardless, what we do know is that she was also a student of Miami Northwestern High School, and she does have a family that loves her. Jahara and Chemo reportedly knew each other from school, and you know how that goes. I like you, I think you're cute, I think I like you back, and then you become a couple and you're inseparable. Right. And you know. Something that came up, you know, during the duration of their tumultuous relationship, you know, it was reported that it was very on and off and kind of volatile, you know. And everything that that later came out, it sounds like they were there were warning signs from the beginning, which is always bad. like if it's if it's like playful fighting, then sure, whatever. But if it gets like serious like aggression to where you know, it becomes physical or violent or even verbal, you know, that's that's some classic warning signs. It's like, maybe this is a bad idea. but it was reported that she had some from what I read, it was reported that she had some anger issues, insecurities and had a tendency to lash out physically and verbally on at least three different occasions. Jahara allegedly broke his Chemo's phone one time during one of her fits of rage. If he would have broke my phone, Let me just assume Not who got anger issues. Now who has anger issues? Look, look, look. I was raised to be a respectable individual, okay? And my mom always raised me never to put my hands on another woman, okay? But they're you put your I would have broke something of hers. Like I Tif a taff, like I'm that petty. Like you you break my phone, I break your phone. Like you break my phone, I'm gonna break one of your nails. Like that's gonna that's gonna make you real a nail? You know how much that hurts? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Or I'ma just cut your extensions out. Bruh. I don't know. You know how much hair costs? Yes. You know how much phones cost? And this would probably be fair. Fair. And this is why I don't break people's stuff, but it's It's just that but that's just it's that's just really volatile. Like it's it's a deadly combination. But from like all of the reports that I've read, you know, the it was never reciprocated. Like he never lashed back out. It was always that I'ma just pull myself away from you and then somehow, some way They would just find themselves right back with one another. And this is not new behavior for her either. her ex-boyfriend, I think his name was Ted, but I could be wrong. I'm not entirely sure. You know, he was very open about a text message that Jahar has sent him telling him that, I want blood, like the fudge. I don't know if we can curse on here, but I'm just like, the fudge. Like, if I would have got a text message like that, like I'd been like blocked. yo, like I that's just it was just so many it it's crazy like how many warning signs were out there and and no one took account to it because then again, you know, no one would think that someone is capable of doing, you know, what she would eventually do, which is kinda crazy. Regardless of these stories, you know, police never had been called on jihara and no one ever reported a thing that she would say or do and when she lost her temper, you know, thus leaving her squeaky clean record, which it which sucks. 'Cause at least if it was like put on record somewhere, you know, they would know like, you know, this girl is dangerous or she's exhibiting some, you know, dangerous tendencies. Which is crazy. At that age? Especially at that age. I know what you're thinking of too. I know what you're thinking of You know exactly what I'm thinking of. You know exactly what I'm thinking of. I mean In your defense, in your defense, some irksome things. Okay, so just so that everyone is aware of the inside joke, so there was a time when so Kenneth and I went to high school we with each other. We We did. Have known each other since what, fifteen? Yeah. Fourteen. Yeah. two thousand and five. Not to reveal our age. No, that was two thousand four when I met you. It was two thousand four. Yes. Yeah, and we've been friends for twenty two years. Yeah. Bruh. Okay, so it was two thousand four when I met you. And I n I Kenneth at some point during our tenth or eleventh grade year had this girlfriend and I hated her. I hated her so bad. And so because he was my friend, I was just like, I think you should break up with her and he was just like, no. And I was just like, All right, fine, if you break up with her, I'll date you. Like I'm not gonna be I'm not like I'm not gonna be I'm not gonna be single, like that's stupid. Yeah, at least give some incentive to it. So I could not stand her. She was listen, she was so rude. I can't remember what island she was from. She wasn't Jamaican. I don't think she was Guyanese. She wasn't Bajan. Where was she from? She was from some island. Ma'am, I don't even remember her name. I remember her name, but out of respect for her character, I'm not gonna say it. but I hated her so bad. Anyways, so we started dating and Kenneth is actually a very irritating human being. And so there was one time because where we went to school, Kenneth was the closest one in our friend group. Like his house was the closest to our high school. And so we used to go to his house after school all the time. Like we our high school years, we were a true Degrassi after school special. We were. Stuff that happened in our friend group was kind of crazy. So Kenneth, we're walking to his house and he's pissing me off. He was probably talking trash, because that's what he does. It did. He won't like that that's his annoying. Like he don't play pranks or nothing like that, but he'll talk like cash shit. Like he'll talk so much trash. And he was talking trash. And so finally I turned around and I jacked him up against the gate to his house. I was unaware that his mother was coming home from work at the time. No, she was le She was leaving the house. She was coming out with my brother. Okay, so th she was leaving the house. Regardless, I got kind of jacked up against the gate. And I just hear this voice from behind me say, get your hands off my son. And me and me being the the The mischievous curse teenager. Yes. Okay. we can curse. All right. Awesome. Me being the asshole that I was as a teenager, I don't think I I don't think I've grown up. I think I in my adult years I've just become worse. You know, you think in that moment, like, hey, you can rectify the situation and be like, No, mom, we're just joking around. It's okay. No, I I took it a step too far. I took it a step further. I'm like, yeah, Kiana, stop hating on me all the time. Like, why are you so abusive towards me? And he acted like like me jacking him up was a regular occurrence. He's like, my gosh, I'm so like, please stop putting your hands on me. Like she was my mom ate it up. She did. She hated me for like so many years. So many years after that. So many people. Yeah, now she loves me, and shout out to your mom. So at some point. Kimo goes to Jahara because their relationship has been volatile. They've just been fighting. She's being a total crash out. And he's just like, listen, I know we've been on again, off again. I think you're cool. You're a beautiful girl. But you know, you just met the girl for me. My words, not his. AK get crazy. AKA girl. Crazy. You need to get your shit together. And I'm getting away from you as quickly and as fast as possible, like blinking warning red light signs, like warning signs saying, Get the hell away. Yep. He couldn't have had run any faster. No. And so Jahara apparently did not take this news too well. But once again, they were known to be on again, off again. So I'm pretty sure she felt like, you know what, I'm gonna just give him some time. He's gonna come around and I'm gonna get my man back. So now it's December 20th, 2024 School is out for winter break, and just like it never rains in Southern California, it never is cold in Southern Florida. Kind of didn't you start college in South Florida in at FIU? no, I went to Florida Memorial. Florida Memorial. That's a HBCU, right? I have no idea. I was only there for one semester and then I I got the hell out of there as fast as possible. You really did. You really did. It was just so messy. my god. my gosh. It was so having horrible flashbacks to that. Sorry, my bad. I didn't I didn't mean to bring it up. So December twentieth, two thousand twenty four, school is out for winter break and you know, hours before our main story takes place, Chemo is at home. He's spending time with his mom and his sister and they're putting up a pink Christmas tree for the holidays. And so they're decorating the Christmas tree, they're talking, they're laughing, he's picking at them because he's like, Why the hell would you want to pink Christmas tree? While this is going on, we find Jahara at her house and she's getting ready to hang out with one of her friends. So she's getting ready, she's throwing some things into her purse, triple checking, making sure that she has everything she needs because, you know, that's what we ladies do, right? And so usually she carries a small can of pepper spray, you know, for protection. Because she's a lady. But she's looking around her house and she's like, where the hell is my pepper spray? She's looking, she's allegedly looking all over for this pepper spray. Allegedly, I love that. Allegedly. So at this point, she's like pressed for time and she's you know what? Forget the pepper spray, but I'm not about to be walking the streets of Miami with just my purse in my hand. So she has a small pocket knife. It's a pink-handled four-inch blade pocket knife. And she gets that, she throws it in her purse. You know, for protection, because she's a lady. And with that, she heads out the door. And so she meets up with her friend and they're they go out. I think the article said they went to like the mall. And they just go out. They probably had a very fun but chill day plan. You know how it is when you're a teenager, you're hanging out with your homegirl. They're going out to do what teenage girls do. So they probably went to the mall. They probably got some fries or a salad, you know, a girl dinner and just went from there. At some point during the day. Jahara and Chemo, they're texting back and forth. And through that text thread, they agree to meet up. And so she and her friend, after they're done doing what they're what they do, being outside, they're just like, hey, let's go over to Chemo's house. And so with that, they head over to his residence and located at the 6100 block of Northwest Sixth Court in Miami. Shortly after they arrive, her friend decides to part ways with Jahara for the night. Now It's a little lot after 10 PM at night, and the surveillance footage in the building captures Kemo walking over to the door of his apartment complex to let Jahara in. The two are seen kind of talking and laughing and chasing each other around, and the next thing the camera picks up is a trail of blood and Kemo's body laying on the floor, bleeding from his chest. At the same time this is going on, another surveillance camera picks up some audio of Yakim screaming, Jahara, don't, or Jahara, stop. And then you hear Jahara frantically screaming and crying. So Jahara is seen on the footage dropping the knife and she calls 911 around 1103 PM and sh, you know, they pick up and she's just like, Help, you my boyfriend's been stabbed. I really need help. And so the dispatcher is like, Okay, you said someone has been stabbed, and she's like, Yes, my my boyfriend. He's been stabbed. And she's like screaming, crying, yelling. You know, she sounds like she's panicked. And so the dispatcher's like, okay, are you guys safe? Like, is there an assailant? She's like, I stabbed him. Like, it was like we we were, you know. And so the dispatcher's like, You stabbed him? And she's like, Yes, yes. We were playing around and and and we were playing and he he walked into my knife. And so Jahara is like so the dispatcher's just like, Okay, I'll send somebody over there. Where are you? Like, what is the building number that you're located at? And Jahara's just like, I don't know, I don't know. Just please send somebody, send somebody quick, quick, quick, quick, quick. And the operate the operator's like, Girl, I hear you, but I don't know where I'm sending them. And so she's just like, Why don't you walk out the door and look on the building and get the building number? And Jahara is like panic. She's like, I can't leave him. I can't leave him. I can't leave him. I can't leave him. I leave him. So eventually she does find out, she does go to the door and she tells the operator we're at six one zero zero and medics and police were discharged to her location and when they arrive they find Jahara trying to render aid to Chemo. So at that point, the medics take over, they transport Yaquim to Jackson Memorial Hospital where he was pronounced dead at eleven fifty three PM that night. That's once we get to the the this part of the story, this is where it my my brain it just goes a million miles a second because of all the all the information that we've we've gotten up to this point and during, you know, that that whole entire encounter, which we'll get into a little bit later on, but it it's a couple of things that I kinda wanna cover, you know, before we go further. This is her on again, off again boyfriend. So I'm assuming that she's been to his residence multiple times 'cause that's where they were hanging out. They were hanging out in the garage of his apartment complex. She's been there multiple times. Now, granted, I'll give you I'll I'll give her some leeway. You know, it's an emotional heightened situation. Your brain is is on hyperdrive and you can't think properly. And you you may forget the address or where you're at momentarily. But to me, it just seems like she's stalling and she's waiting it out. Like a minute or two or a couple of seconds, yeah, but like. Pull it together, girl. You know where, you know where the heck you are. Tell these people where you are so that they can come here and help this poor boy who's bleeding out on the damn floor. I mean, I did not think of it like that, but you're actually right. It's like, because I'm now I have to put myself in those shoes because if, God forbid, you know, if I'm with you and something happens to you and you are on the floor bleeding out, there is nothing that Like, I'm gonna do whatever it takes to get you help. I'm banging on doors. If the ladies like go outside and and but all beyond that, she went to the building. This was not her first time at his house. She knows exactly where the hell he lives. Absolutely. So you're right. You're absolutely right. It's just like small inconsistencies like that, which which we'll get into more because there's so much more. but that's that's one of the main that's One of the one things that just dawned on me, you know, while I was going through and reading everything about this case, like you've known this boy for how long you've been to his residence, how many times? Granted, you know, a tense situation, you're not thinking straight, you may you may forget where you are disoriented from, you know, what's what's happened right then right then and there. But eventually you're you're gonna snap out of it and be like, Okay, no way, actually. I yeah, I know where I am and give the address so that, you know, emergency response can come there and and and help him and potentially save his life. I feel like and I could be wrong, you know, I don't know. I I I don't know w the the true extent of everything, but you know, or because it took them about seven to it took them about set but i the call itself lasted for a couple of for for a little while. And then once she finally gave the address, it took emergency response seven minutes to get to him. So, you know, I could- But I could have been there. Yeah. Every second counts in in situations like that. You know? So if she would have gave the address, you know, sooner, possibly, the the outcome could have been different. Maybe it couldn't have, but we'll never know now. But I feel like it it could have increased his odds of survival instead of her Being frantic and running around and saying, I don't know where I am. I don't remember. Like BS bullshit, girl. Bullshit. You know where the hell you know where you are. But before we go any further, I think it's important to talk about chemo for a second. That nickname is just gonna drive me crazy for this whole entire duration. Because sometimes, you know, in these cases the victims get reduced to just the person who died instead of an actual human being. But everything that I found on him paints him in a picture of being a genuinely good kid. You know, he was loved in his community, his family loved him. He the video the little TikToks that I've that I've seen him on, you know, he was always dan dancing. He had this super large goofy smile on his face. He did. He did. In in a lot of ways, like and it's kind of creepy and you know, I didn't want to draw any parallels to it, but like when I was watching it, you know, I saw like my brother in him. And I was just like, you know, it's this this beautiful life that was just cut so short, so senselessly, that could have easily been avoided. He was athletic, energetic, ambitious. He wanted a future in finance in someday. Like who wants to be a stockbroker? Right? Nobody Nobody. He had a fallback plan if football didn't work out for him. You know, most 17 year olds are like, No, f F that, you know, I'm gonna be a football player. I'm gonna make millions of dollars doing that. If I can't do that, then I don't wanna do anything. Yeah, you're right. But he was just so headstrong and he was so smart. You know, he had a plan for his life. And that's what makes this so much more harder, you know, because by all accounts this wasn't some hardened criminal lifestyle situation. You know, this wasn't some teenager. it was a normal kid, a kid decorating for Christmas with his family hours before he before he died. And that's what sucks, you know? Those last memories I that his family had with him. And that's what's terrifying about this case and how normal it starts. You literally see them on a surveillance footage laughing, joking, playing around. It looks harmless. It looks like, you know, every teenage couple, you know, ever, and suddenly it turns into This gruesome homicide scary movie scene. Like it's crazy. And that's the shift that gets me, you know, because according to Jahara, this was an accident. She says they were playing around and he essentially walked into knife and listen, listen, and I want you to listen to this very carefully. I was young once too. We were all young once. We did some dumb, reckless stuff. And I mean dumb and reckless. But I have never ever played with knives like ever. That's just stupid. Like I don't I don't get the sense. I don't get the joy and you know, and playing around with the knife with friends, like, hey, yeah, I'm chasing you around with the knife. Like, I'd be like if Keanu, if you were chasing me around with a knife, you might have gotten hurt because I'd like, girl, you got put that knife down or I'm gonna throw something at you. Is like you're right. Cause I'm really sitting here like, okay, I would never chase somebody around with a knife, but I feel feel like I have a very faint memory of chasing you around with scissors. I feel like you did too, but like I don't think I would have done like a lot of damage. I I remember I remember we fought a lot, like we fought like a lot, a lot, you know, but it wasn't like really it wasn't aggressive fighting. It wasn't aggressive. It was just like stop playing with me, Fob beat the hell out of you. Maybe that was aggressive. And I wouldn't because I'm hardheaded and I'm like, okay, I'm gonna just keep doing it because it's funny to get a rile out of you. It amuses me. Kind of thing, you know? But it's it it it That part of the story, you know, has always bothered me, especially when you look at the forensic evidence, which is just so in bizarre. Yeah, it it it blows my mind. Yeah. So Jahara's statement was taken at the scene and she told police that she and Kemo were horse playing when she accidentally stabbed him and that she immediately called 911. After being questioned by the police, Jahara's statement was recorded and she was basically set free to go home. They were like, You're saying this is an accident? I don't see why it's not an accident. I can't I we just gotta take your word for it because she, you know, what the sergeant said worked in her favor was the fact that she did not run. She did not move the weapon. She tried to help him. She tried to perform CPR. She tried to render aid. And she called nine one one immediately after he fell to the floor. And it's like, I hear what he's saying, but I'ma I'm I'm gonna get more into that later. But So the police question her. She's just like, we were playing, she's frantic, you know, she's acting how a person would act if they accidentally killed somebody. And so they believe her and they send her home. And that blows my mind. But like I said, we'll get into that later. So Yakim's funeral was held on Saturday, December twenty eighth, two thousand twenty four, and he was surrounded by family, friends, loved ones who were all dressed in white and green, which were And are his favorite colors. Kenneth, I know you said you watched, did you watch the funeral or I did. i i it's no disrespect to his family, you know. it's a celebration of his life and his memory. and I appreciate that. I might I don't particularly enjoy funerals. I don't like them. No. I I typically try and stay away from the loved one the if I especially if I knew that person, I don't want to see them in that final moment. so I'll typically just stay away from them. or if the casket is open, I'll I just can't look and I'll stay away. I know for my brother's funeral, there was a viewing and I was just like, you guys can do the viewing but during the ceremon the during the service itself. the casket has to be closed because I can't see him like that. Like I can't have that, I can't have that that image of him seared into my brain for all times. Now do I regret that down the line? A little bit, yeah. But again, weirdly enough, people took pictures and videos of, you know, his funeral. So if I ever want to, I can see it. But I don't think I'll ever want to do that. I guess that's a thing now. But for his funeral, you know, it it was a celebration of his life. Now there was one image where he was in a nice outfit, you know, jeans and a shirt, and then turn around. He was in another outfit. It was a suit. And I'm like, did they really just put this boy in a ward a a fashion show, a wardrobe change? Who? my gosh. Who was the the her name is slipping my mind. I could see her face, but I can't remember her name. Remember it was a celebrity. She's a older black woman singer. And she had a funeral and they changed her outfit like four times. Who was that? I don't know. They did that's that is Yes. It wasn't it's not Patty LaBelle, because Patty LaBelle Patty's still living. Protect Patty at all costs. Yes. who was it? It's gonna kick my behind. I'm I can see her face, but her name is just Is it the is it okay, is it the person that Jennifer Hudson did the biopick on? Was that her? Aretha Franklin, thank you. Okay. It was here we go. It was Aretha Franklin. Aretha Franklin got changed like four times during her funeral. If I was that funeral director, I would be so upset. I'm like, y'all gotta stop. No, no, no. I'm s I can't no. No. I have to be honest. I love us. Like I love black people so much, but we really don't. We do too much. We do too much. We take it way too far. We are so extra. I can't We are. Sometimes I can't. Like we are just too extra. When I when the day comes when I leave this mortal coil and you if I leave here before you and let this be known now for the record, bare minimum. If you wanna put me in a pine box with a with a shirt and and jeans or just my undies, I am fine with that. Do not go the extra mile for me. I won't know it. I'll be dead. I'll say this. I 'cause I I don't wanna make any promises because I know you're gonna hold me to it, so I will heavily redact this part if I must. But you better go after your mother and very far in the future, and I will likely have you cremated and then I'm going to take your ashes to some place that you love. That works for me. That works what I'm gonna do. That works for me. That's exactly what I'm gonna do. I was I'm thinking Paris, but I'm like, ooh, you really like LA too. I don't know. We'll see. But I mean, I would say scatter my ashes on the block that they filmed the original Halloween film on, but I don't think the residents there would be very happy with scattering human remains. They won't know. Listen, do you know how many human remains are probably here there and everywhere? They will not know. Yeah. Most likely. Seriously. an autopsy was performed on Yakim's body by the Miami-Dade County Medical Examiner's office, and the medical examiner determined that Yakim died from a stab wound to his chest that was deep enough to pierce through his hoodie, his shirt, his fat, and his muscle, and lodge itself into his heart. The depth of the stab wound and the force in which it pent it hold. The depth. Of the stab wounds and the force in which it penetrated his chest contradicted Jahara's claims that this was an accident. And on January 16th, 2025, Yakim's death was ruled a suicide. And I just for for you guys, for the viewers too, in case you didn't catch that snippet, I want to repeat everything Kiana just said. This wasn't a tiny scratch or superficial wound. The blade pierced through a heavy hoodie, clothing. Tissue fractured a rib and pierced his heart. A four-inch blade. Okay, guys? A four-inch blade. Look it up online and see how long a four-inch blade is and see exactly and and and see exactly what it took to pierce all of that. So that's not somebody lightly bumping into a blade during force play, unless this boy somehow. Sprinted chest first into the knife at full speed. Something about that explanation just doesn't sit right with me after the like I said in the beginning, the the forensic evidence came to light. And I already knew that there was something wrong and her story was off when you hear in the CCTV footage, you know, Kemo screaming, Jahara, stop, or Jahara, no. Like it something about this, it just felt to me premeditated. And then once it happened, and then once it happened, she kind of went into into shock, like, shit, what the hell did I just do? Mm-hmm. And freaked out and called 911, which which good, which is good on her part, but then still like, sis, you just stabbed a boy. Yeah. Yeah. I do agree with you. I do, you know what, we're gonna get into that later. Let's let's finish telling the story, and then when we go into our final thoughts, let's like, let's like really unpack. So After the Emmys report was released to investigators, Joaquim's family started making noise. And that is one thing I can say that I appreciate about like certain like victims' families, because they will advocate, like they will stop at nothing to make sure that justice is served. And the reason why his family was so upset is because after the Emmy's report came out and it was listed like, hey, this is a homicide, because there's no freaking way he could have just bumped into this knife and it lodged that far and that four like that takes. Strength. Mm-hmm. That takes strength. She had crazy bitch strength. Like that takes strength. Like Molly, you're in danger girl strength. Yes. And so the Lawler family's just like, okay, this is a mur this is a murder. You guys have said it's a murder. Why is she still walking the streets? And then on January thirty first, two thousand twenty five, because you know the courts, they don't like the people that I'm protesting outside. They don't like too much noise outside of their door. Nay, nay, once they do once they do that, they're like, shit, we gotta do something about that. No, we gotta do something. We are not about to have a riot on our hands. And so on January thirty first, twenty twenty five, Jahara was arrested and charged with manslaughter with a deadly weapon. She was given a bond of fifty thousand dollars, which spoiler alert, her family posted and she was sent home with an ankle monitor while she awaited trial. She should have been charged with first degree murder, in my opinion. In my opinion, she should have been charged with first degree. I don't buy the pepper spray story. But like I said, we're gonna unpack that later. She went there with intent, but absolutely. So on March sixteenth, two thousand twenty six, Jahara, I guess she's looking at the evidence against her. And I will say this. She may be a lot of things, but that girl is not stupid. She is not stupid. no. So she said, you know what? My odds probably are not gonna be looking good if I take this to court. So she, on her own will, on her own volition, did not take a plea deal, did not do any of that stuff. She walked into the Richard E. Gerstein Justice Building in downtown Miami, walked in front of a judge, and she said, I'm gonna plead guilty, please. And she pled guilty to manslaughter with a deadly weapon. Her sentencing hearing was held in May 2026, led by Judge Christine Hernandez. Jahara was represented by attorney Larry Hanfield. At the trial, Yakim's family request was simple. They asked that Jahara be given the maximum sentence of 30 years. However, according to the Miami Herald, Jahara's attorneys had requested that she be sentenced as a youthful offender to Miami Day Corrections post boot camp program. Which is a program available for people, I guess, young people between the ages of fourteen to twenty four years old and it focuses on rehabilitation through military style training. Which okay that that's hear me out. Fourteen to twenty four? I'ma listen. I'm a listen. Go ahead. Fourteen to twenty four Why is this program for fourteen to twenty four year olds? if you're twenty four, jail. Yeah. 18 jail. Jail. Like what? Like 14 to 24. By twenty-four, I had two children. Please release me. They need to go to jail. But that's neither here nor there. The prosecution, however, asked the judge to impose a twenty-year prison sentence, followed by ten years of probation, making the thirty years. Jahara's defense team, of course, led with just just just guess. Wait for it. Wait for it. Waiting. Mental health diagnosis. Yeah. Mental health. Y'all don't get tired of blaming things on mental health. Like, don't get me wrong. Mental health issues do exist. They do. I have walked through it with some people. I have walked through it myself. Like, as someone who has dealt with mental health issues in the past and spent a week on the psych ward, you have been there as well, Kenneth. I have. I have. I no shame here. Yeah, we all go through it sometimes. We all have that breaking point where we're just like, Okay, I need some help. or I'm gonna Or it's gonna get ugly. Yeah, I'm gonna lose it. So yeah, it's there's no shame in in in saying that you need help. And if you do need help, I always recommend someone to, you know, seek that out. Absolutely. But I don't blame everything on my mental health because I'm a well functioning adult that has basic understanding of actions have consequences. Yes. Yeah. So I I can't like of course I go to work every day and I wanna I wanna murder my boss because I get like condescending emails. Your boss is my sister. no, my other boss. I was about to say she also listens to this podcast. no, that she knows who I'm talking about. Trust me, when she listens to this, she's going to know. She's going to know who I'm talking about. I could just see her listening to this. Nope. She's not getting this. She's gonna know exactly who I'm talking about. Well, I guess she's not my boss, but I I answer to her as well. But but it's it's it it's but I I fight back those urges. And if you're telling me that you have an impulse problem where you can't control those impulses, then that's a different that's a whole different kind of conversation, a whole different topic. But I agree. You can't t you can't blame everything. And I think that's that's a that's a scapegoat that, you know, the justice system that people that commit these heinous crimes try and use as a scapegoat, like, my mental health. I had a momentary lapse of insanity. So that's why I did this. So please don't punish me too hard. Ma'am, you took someone's life for nothing. For nothing. He was minding his his business. Like, let's just be so for real. Carrie, we belong together with his parents a couple of hours ago. Picking at his mom about a pink Christmas tree. But she Y'all were laughing and joking around and like I really do I wish they were more specific. Not that it matters because wrong is wrong anyway, but I really wish they would have said what the argument was even about. Like, because they were playing. They were just laughing and joking. They were talking cute. Yeah, you know, and you and you brought something up about that because we were talking about that too earlier today, because I was just like cause there was like a huge gap in that whole thing where it's just like I don't understand how it went from zero to literally a hundred so quickly. Like I don't know. But you know, you mentioned something that, you know, that was in it that I didn't find in in my research that, you know, there's a lot of information that the police redacted and they didn't release to the public, which is baffling to me. And then also You know, great. You don't want the public to know everything about a very high profile case. But once it goes to trial, I think you you lay all your cards out on the table to present how dangerous the situation is so that this individual will never have the chance to do this ever again. Because trust me when I tell you, I don't think this is a we'll get to that later. We'll get to that part later. This case got us so hated. my gosh. But you know, they still didn't go in. with all their cards on the table and they didn't reveal the information that they found to the events leading up to Chemo getting stabbed. So that it that just baffles me. And that concerns me a little bit. Yeah. So Jahara's attorney relayed to the court that a psychologist believes that Jahara has PTSD, depression, and anxiety, which I'm just like, don't we all? We all do. And I don't wanna go out go I don't go out and want the Michael Myers or Jason Vore's people. I mean, I've thought about it, but I'm usually like, you know. Following through with it. Everyone has intrusive thoughts. Every following through with it, we have to have a whole different kind of discussion. Yeah, we gotta we gotta think this all the way through. So the psychologist that I guess evaluated Jahara. determined that the stabbing was a quote isolated incident rather than a reflective pattern of delinquency or aggression. As part of the evidence against Jahara, text messages were produced from an ex-boyfriend of hers, like Kenneth mentioned earlier. And after Chemo's death, Ted forwarded those messages to Chemo's mom, Natalie, and he showed her like, this is what you're dealing with. This is the type of person that Jahara can be when she's angry. Like don't let her get away with this. Like Don't let her get away with this. At the sentencing hearing, Jahara was allowed to speak and she said, I'm here to accept my consequences for what I had done. I loved your son so much and I never wanted this to happen to him. Which is we'll get into that later. He was a good person and definitely should have been here. I was wrong for what I did and every day I sit and think about the damage I caused. I wish I could go back and change what happened, but I can't. And that's the worst part. Y'all didn't deserve this pain, and I wish I hadn't been the one to give it to y'all. The family wants me in prison. I'm in my own prison for the rest of my life. This was my best friend, my love, and someone I could vent to about anything and everything. He was a good person and definitely should have been here. This is a sad situation. I miss him every day. End quote. I might have flipped my chair over. If I was sitting there listening to her say that. Cause what do you mean? Regardless of Jahara's statement, Yakim's family wasn't trying to hear none of that. They weren't trying to hear none of that. And when they went on to provide their victim impact statements, his aunt Zeldrina Beacham said to Jahara, quote, You are a demon seed that your parents brought into this world to bring suffering on everybody else. Shame on them. End quote. involving that person I will say only because I don't have any backstory on Jahara's parents. I don't agree with that statement. Because sometimes it's not the parents. It's not. You know sometimes it's not. I you know, I believe sometimes, you know, y you are the product of your environment and you know absolutely shitty situations can, you know, give birth to an even shittier person. But also, you know, you have to have you have to understand, you know, the c you have to have I I'm losing my train of thought to of words, you know, you have to establish at an early age the type of person that you want to be. And I think, my personal opinion, you know, she she might not have come from a bad background. 'cause we did hear impac statements from her f for her loved ones on her behalf, you know. I don't think they were bad people. So they couldn't have had birth this demon well, they couldn't have had birth this demon. She was just pretty much She had uncontrollable anger. Yeah. And what where her family probably lacked, and this is something that I have seen because as soon as we get done recording, I'm about to go deal with my oldest child about his attitude. you have to you cannot just let your kids crash out. Like you have to you have to guide them from a young age. I saw a video. And the lady basically was saying, if what they're doing at the age of three won't be cute at the age of 15, correct it at the age of three. And that is the most like it was one of the most profound things I have ever heard. So my youngest daughter, she her mouth and she, she has a mouth on her. She's only five. She has a mouth on her and she throws tantrums. Like if she does not get her way, like she loses it. And so one of the things that she would do. Is she wanted me to sleep in the bed with her. And I'm just like, I don't want to sleep in the bed with you, girl. I got my own bed. And you need to learn how to sleep on your own. And it wasn't that she was afraid of the dark or any of those things. She just wanted someone in the bed with her, just for her own personal reason. And so this went on for months. If I was not in the room with her, she would cry. I mean, scream bloody murder for hours on end. And I would always give up and give in. And so I I saw that video on TikTok of that lady saying that, like if that behavior is not gonna be cute at the age of 15, fix it now. And so I thought about it. I'm just like, when she's 15, am I gonna be able to handle a teenage girl that is flipping out because she doesn't get her way? No, I'm not gonna be able to handle that. And the it's like the same with my oldest daughter. Like she historically does not like to clean up after herself and things like that. But we're having to get on her about that because guess what? That's not gonna be cute at the age of fifteen. So the night came and my daughter was my youngest daughter, she was flipping. I want you to sleep with me. She's screaming. Kenneth, I dragged her out of that bed and I dealt with her. I dealt with her on that night. what Bernie Max said, I I held I dealt her some weapons of ass destruction. And that was the last time. She has been an angel ever since. She was probably she's probably thinking like, damn, Mama, I was just playing. she has she when I tell you she had the shock of her life. She had the shock of her life. So it probably does fall back on her family to an extent, but I don't without knowing. no. I wouldn't I wouldn't pass a hundred percent of the blame onto them. Right. Right. Not a hundred percent. But Just a small percentage because small because she is still a teenager and you know, it starts at it does definitely start at home too. And if you see signs of aggression, because she was probably aggressive with other people and her family as well. And so they should have definitely nipped that shit in the butt really fast. Agreed. Totally agree. Like I a hundred and fifty percent agree. Like if if you don't calm your shit down real quick, I will knock you into like what my grandmother used to tell us when we when we used to act stupid. I will knock you into next week. Like I don't I don't condone child violence kids, but you know sometimes a a kid needs a firm knock on the head. I'm just Sometimes sometimes you just sometimes you just need to beat their ass. That's just me. You know, some people don't agree with whooping their kids and if that's your prerogative, you know, hey, raise your kid how you want to. As for me and my household, I will not be sparing the rod or spoiling the child. On May 5th, 2026, Jahara was sentenced to 17 years, followed by five years probation. After the sentencing, Judge Hernandez said, quote, his life was taken way too soon. Your youth does not excuse the foreseeable consequences of the decision you made. The choices that you made affected the trajectory of all of their lives, the trajectory of your life as well as your family's. Clearly the judge felt the same way I did because once the forensic evidence came into play, her version of the event started falling apart. then we get to the sentencing, and this is where I personally start to get angry as well. You know, you hear the victim's impact statements from Chemo's family, and it's devastating. these people are completely shattered, their son forever gone at 17 years old. Like your life is just getting started. It's just insane. to to think about that. And then, you know, again, like you said, you know, Jahar speaks, you know, to be fair. In my opinion, my humblest opinion, she did appear to be somewhat remorseful. Remorseful, my ass. She's an actress. I keep telling y'all, that girl is not stupid. Just a little bit. Maybe I mean, you know, I knew I know she knew what she's d I know she walked in there with the intent to hurt him. But then after she did it, She was like, I don't think she meant to kill him. Like, no. Like, I no, that's bad. No, I regret this now. Like, I I do think that. I don't think it was an accident. I don't. Like, I'm gonna I'm gonna put that out there right now. I don't think it was an accident. I know she went in there intent to hurt him. Mm-hmm. But I think after it happened and reality sunk in, she was like, shit, what the hell did I just do? And she and she is kinda and she kind of felt somewhat remorseful of that. Yeah. I I can I'll say this. I do believe I think she went into this meeting with him. I think she went into it with the intent of getting back together. And I think she probably was just like, you know, so does that mean you're gonna be my man again? And he probably was like, Hey No, you crazy. I feel like he was just like, baby. Do like a fat kid love cake, but hell no. No, you d and and like a fat kid love cake, you bad foot you bath for me, you diabetes, you get away from me. I don't want the sugar diabetes. It's like hell no. Thank you, Max. I really do think that's what started the argument. This is just in my head, my version of events. I think that she went into it like I'm about to get my man back. And I feel like she probably expressed that at some point. Because you know, they're laughing, joking, they're Kiki, and her friend left at this point. So she's like, baby, we got this garage to ourselves. And I feel like he was just like, girl, hell no. Like, I will never, you will never touch my pee-pee ever again in life. You are no good. You are no good. Get thee behind me, Satan. You are a warning sign, you are a warning sign, like flashing red lights. Stay away. Agreed. And I feel feel like the moment he rejected her, I I think that's what she snaps out. Yeah. I that's what I think happened. Could be wrong though. I could be wrong. They are the only people that know. Yeah. And you know, what one of them can only tell the truth now because the other one is gone. You know? So, you know, she admitted she was wrong. She talked about loving him, regretting what happened, but then she said something along the lines of, We're in this together and I'm not gonna lie to you. I I that line almost took me out Because no, we are not in this together. You know, the one family is grieving a son that will never be seen again. They don't get birthdays, they don't get graduations, they don't get holidays, they don't get closure. Their child is gone. And I think that's why this case hits people so hard. Because it f it it feels avoidable, completely avoidable. And you know, to not to be a little biased, you know. it kinda again it hits it hits home to me. You know, you know, me losing a loved one as in a in a senseless in a senseless incident that could have easily been avoided if if someone just used their common sense, that person would still be here. And then for you to get up on the stand and say, I feel remorseful and, you know, it was an accident and trying to shift the blame onto the victim and not the a and not yourself, it's kinda like a slap in the face to the victims' families. Not speaking for Jahara, speaking on my behalf. Like I'm sorry, not to confuse everyone, because never once did she, you know, kind of shift the blame to him. She took she took over all responsibility for her actions, which I commend her for. But at the end of the day, I personally think she got off easy, you know. I know some people disagree with that. but that But when you take somebody's life, especially someone this young, with so much future ahead of them, 17 years just doesn't seem like enough time for me because he's he's gone. He's gone forever. And so I feel like, you know, not to quote the Bible, not to get all religious with you guys. Do it. I'm getting religious on this show all the time. Eye for an eye, sweetie. Eye for an eye. Like you took someone else's life. I'm not saying that her life should be taken. But I'm saying like she should be locked away somewhere until her end of days. I concur. So where she can't do any more harm to society. I don't I I mean, I believe in rehabilitation to a certain degree. Once you throw murder into the mix and you you you add in the factors of it, especially the factors like this, there is no rehabilitation for you, sweetie. Yeah, you gonna have to sit this one out, boo. Yeah. Your life was done, finito, finished, over. Because he doesn't come back. He doesn't get to come back. You know? Yeah. And I I and I think for me, I agree with you. I do feel like she got off easy. I do. I feel like this should have been first degree murder at the very least, second degree murder. At the very least. Because the truth of the matter is She that the the knife had to come from somewhere. She had to pull it out. It's not like they were talking, playing kiki kiki key, and she had this knife in her hand the whole time. It's not like she walked into the building with the knife in her hand. Right. And I think that's what bothers me, like you said, kind of about everything being so heavily redacted. Because what happened in those moments between her them playing and him saying, Jahara, stop, Jahara, don't. Yeah, her going stab time line. When did she pull that knife out? You know what I'm saying? And I feel like if you watch if you actually wat I don't know if you've seen it, 'cause I I watched it. The the the the trial. No, the trial. yeah, I watched the trial. Yeah, when they did the re when the DA and the detective did the reenactment of her of her saying of how he came at he walked into the knife. So The knife was in her hand. It was between her index finger while she was holding her phone. And she said that it was lower than where the knife actually pierced his body. And so they did a a reenactment of both of both instances. They did a reenactment of the story that she told the police. And then they did a reenactment of what the forensic evidence told us. Yeah. And That n she had to have driven that knife right into his chest with force. Like a punch. Like she launched and punched him and drove that knife into him with all of her strength. Mm-hmm. Yeah. You know, it it at the same time, you know, there there are really no winners here, you know. Kemo's life is law is is is gone and you know, Jahara's life is and now Jahara threw her life away. And now two families are currently destroyed because one person couldn't let go, which is insane to say that out loud. Yeah. Yeah. I I compl 'cause you're right. The whole reason that this happened is just because she could not she couldn't let go. And I just I don't understand things like that. Me either. Like I really don't. I've been in love before. I've I've experienced that love, but I've never experienced that love to that degree. And this is not just this and this is not just a jab at her. This is a jab at everyone else out there who couldn't let go of someone else and they took matters into their own hands w where it was like a well, if I can't have you, no one else will have you. And took that person out of the equation permanently. Like Yeah. It's insane to think about that. Like, no, like there are literally plenty of other fish. in the sea for you to go and spread your wings and frolic with and and go after. I agree. And just I'm just gonna even use myself in it as an example because, you know, Kenneth knows my backstory. I don't think I've ever shared it on this podcast, but like my ex-husband, he he moved out. He had a whole girlfriend. She was calling me all kind of of crazy bees, delusional bees, your man don't want you. You just mad cause your man don't want you. He was feeding her the story of me being a delusional so-and-so. I'm just like, okay, I mean, well, let's just get divorced then. If you don't want to be here, baby, don't be here. Like, I don't understand. And then here's the crazy part. Then I moved on and he was mad that I moved on. You you cheated. You used to lie and be spending nights and weekends at this girl's house. You had her thinking she was the main one. She was your fiance. Meanwhile, you had a whole wife and children at home. Did I crash out? No. did you call Yeah. And literally next, because now I'm in like the best relationship ever. So Like move on. Like l let that be a lesson. Best ish. He he owns a Samsung. He owns an Android. Don't piss me off on it. Anyway, immediately after Jahara was sentenced, like they took her ass up. They took her ass on up out of here. She was whisked away to a Florida State prison and she officially began her sentence. According to an article from the Grio, per the terms of Jahara's sentence, she would have to undergo a mental health evaluation. And write a letter every anniversary of Chemo's death detailing basically how she messed up and what she has learned from what she has done. After the trial was over, Chemo's mom Natalie was heard walking out of the courtroom singing, Victory is mine. Victory is mine. Victory is mine. Victory today is mine. She told reporters that the family is glad Jahara was held accountable. And is looking forward to putting the criminal case behind them saying, quote, I'm glad today my son can finally rest in peace knowing that justice was served. Which brings us to where are they now? Well, since this case was settled as recently as pfft last week, we don't really have a true update, but we just know that the sentence does not bring Joaquin back. And honestly, I'm sure his family would have appreciated a longer sentence, especially in Florida. That's what really is the kicker here. I'm just like, Florida's design. At all. Florida does not play. They are quick to throw you in jail and under the jail and like throw that key into like a swamp and leave their freaking body. Or 86 your ass. Absolutely. And that's what makes me so suspicious because I I have covered on this show I've covered this is my fifth case in Florida. Every other person out of Florida got life without parole. Josh Phillips, Life Without Parole. Jennifer Me, Life Without Parole. no, those two boys, Alex and Derrick King, they did get out, but they got out because they I don't think anyone really believed that they killed their father. I think that they believed that the guy, because the guy that helped them, he's his ass is still in prison. So and so it's like there's something, there is something here. That is not making sense. She should have never been charged with manslaughter. Absolutely. Matter of fact, let's just go into our final thoughts. yes. She should have been charged. She should have been charged with, in my opinion, and this is just me, first degree. What do you think? I I concur. I I agree. First degree murder. Second degree, if I'm being nice. If I'm being nice. Yes. If I believe the pepper spray story. Because I don't recall like them asking. What I really feel like they should have done, someone from her family, her homegirl, the girl she was out that day, I feel like they should have questioned her and they should have asked her, like, you know Jahara, does she always or maybe not even the homegirl, someone in her that knows her well enough but is far enough removed that they will tell the truth. They needed to ask, does Jahara carry pepper spray in her purse every day? And Was the pepper spray missing on this day? Where is the pepper spray? Dry in. Where's the pepper spray? For my final thoughts, if that man don't want you, let him go. Let him go. Let him He's not the only man on earth. He's not the only man on earth. There are seven billion souls on the earth. He is not the only one. He is not the only one. Nineteen percent of Miami's population is teenage boys. I have lived in Florida, and yes, I know the male to female relationship is skewed, but one pony never stopped a show. There are others. There are others. If that man don't want you, let him go. And she wasn't she's a pretty girl. Like girl, you could get another man. Definitely could. He ain't the last man on earth. See there. I I I do, but I my final thoughts. My final thoughts on this is I I do in my heart of hearts believe that she went there with the intent to hurt to hurt chemo. I could be wrong, but I don't think she'll ever reveal the true side. the true story to what happened because she wants to make sure that people see her in a in a in a in a in a semi-positive light and not as a complete cold blooded murderer. But you gotta look at you gotta look at the facts, you know, the trajectory of the knife. She lied about playing around. She lied about him walking into the knife, you know, she drove that n and stabbing is such a personal attack. You know, it's such a personal attack. You know, you have to be up close and personal with with him. You you see the look on his face. He was probably scared or terrified and confused. And you hear him screaming, saying, Jahara, stop. So I don't think at that point they were they were playing any longer. So I I agree with you. I think, you know, she went there trying to smooth things over, like it starts off playing or whatever. And it's like it's in her head, it's like I'm going over there with And I'm giving him a choice, you know. He doesn't know that it's a choice, but he's about to find out, you know. Either we give this another go or something bad is about to happen. And something snapped in her when he was like, Girl, you crazy. Get some help. Get away from me. Mm-hmm. He probably told her ass, clean off. You know, and I don't blame him. It's just and that's just sad. It's just r it's It's really sad. You know, that's all I can really say. I I go back to it. It's just a terrible situation where it didn't it's another senseless, mindless death that doesn't make any sense that could have easily been avoided. Yeah. You know? RIP to chemo. Yeah, and I do I feel like Jahara should have gotten life without parole. I just definitely believe so. And the only reason I say that is because of the senseless nature of this crime. Like it was this literally, this was so stupid. Like, honestly speaking, even if she was out with her homegirl, they were at the they were out and about. If she if she had pepper sprayed him, I would have been like, Are you crazy? But he could have washed his eyes and moved on. You know? If she had punched him, he would have been like, You crazy? But he would have healed from those wounds. Stabbing him, you don't ever stab somebody. There are so many stories. And I actually know of someone personally where, you know, it's all fun and games. We're playing. We're racka, you know, all that stuff. And then we it gets heated and a knife comes out. Like, why are we pulling out weapons? Right. What was the movie where it's just like, was it Friday? But he was just like, You win some, you lose some, but you live to fight another day. Friday. That's it. That's it. Beat some ass or get your ass beat. Either way, both people stay l alive. Simple. This case was just it this did not have to happen. And I agree with you, RIP to him. His family, Chemo's family, did file an appeal on Jahara's sentence. I it probably won't go anywhere, but there's a part of me that does hope that they get more time for her. She needs more time. She does. I mean either. She needs more time. Either way. I mean I would I would prefer to see her locked away, for the rest of her life so that she's not a she's not a danger or she's not a harm to anyone else in society because I I truly honestly believe that you can't rehabilitate a murderer. I agree. Especially one that gets out 'cause it's just like shoot, I'll do it again, I'll serve a little bit more time. Either that or one of the things that that my husband says that's so true. He's just like, whenever people do stuff and they get away with it, and and she didn't get away with it. Like she's gonna serve her 17 years. But she was 17 when she went in. So it's just like she'll be 34 when she gets out. She still has her whole life. She does. And so it's like, you know, she still gets the chance to get married and have kids if she wants to. And you know, it it's not fair because chemo doesn't get that. He does It's not like she shouldn't get that either. That's just not that's I I wholeheartedly a hundred and ten percent agree with you on that part. She does not deserve that. She does not deserve a moment's of happiness. it it's it just blows my mind that that was that was her sentence, that was her punishment. In Florida. In Florida of all places too, like In Florida. They don't play at all. I'm confused. Anyway, that is the end of our show. Follow me on TikTok, please. I actually got a lot of love on the Kendrick Johnson episode. So thank you guys so much. That's actually like my most listened to episode. Thank you guys so much for listening to that episode. Follow me on TikTok, Minor Mischief Pod. Follow me on Instagram, Minor Mischief Podcast. Questions, case suggestions, wanna chat, wanna kiki. Wanna tell me that you think Jahara was right or wrong, send me an email, minor mishapcast at gmail.com. Kenneth, would you like to plug any of your contact info? Just in case the people are looking for you. I don't ha I'm not a social media guy. I was about to say, I felt the hell no coming. Like I'm not asked that I'm not a social media guy. I think you gotta get out there. You are a celebrity. that's that's terrifying to To say out loud. It's the truth. Like we went to Kenneth's movie premiere. It was a whole thing. Like Kenneth really is acting like he is not that guy. And I need you to stop. It's it's scary. I don't like being like in front of the camera. Like I like being the guy behind the the scenes and everything. Like you don't know me, but you know the work that I do. Kind of Yeah, you should start a page for your work then. I I everyone keeps telling me that. So I'm definitely gonna look into that. but you know, if you want to check out any of my work, you're more than welcome to my books are available for purchase on Amazon. I I guess Keanu will post a link drop a link, a shameless promotional link in there. there's a couple of murder mysteries in there. I believe there's one coming of age. I'm a really big guy on murder mysteries. I don't know. The get delving into the human mind of crazy people like Jahara. It just peaks out. That's why I started this show. Yeah. But, you know, there's a sensation about it that, you know, we have to we have to know why and we have to learn more about it and we have to talk about it. And I think what what you do, which is really great, is, you know, you don't capitalize off of the the the criminal like because a lot of people get lost in the the criminal that the the perpetrator of this whole entire thing, but you focus heavily on the victim and who they are and you make sure that their story is told, which you know, Moocho applause and commend and, you know, I commend you for that. Thank you. Because in my opinion, that's what it's really about. And you think it should be about you said something so profound earlier because you said that a lot of times the victim gets minimized as just this person that was. And that's not the case. Like, this is all about them. We are fighting for them. We are bringing awareness to their cases for them. I don't give a damn if I never say another like suspect's name in this show. Like, I truly do want to focus on the families and the victim and really just make sure that we understand how beautiful they are, how loved they are, and how missed they are because they don't get to come back. And I feel like crash outs Are a dime a dozen. I wish they weren't, but they are. Stop letting your brain tell you what to do and start talking back. If your brain is like, you should really stab this person, you should say, that's not a good idea. Yeah. I have internal thoughts like that all the time. Should I do this? Nah, I I I'm not built for prison. I'm not gonna do that. Listen, God forbid my inner dialogue ever gets released to the public. People would look at me different. I think I think that's what a lot I but I think that's normal though, because a lot of people go through those go through those motions and you know, you gotta talk the you gotta talk that stuff out sometimes. And it's like, okay, I'm glad I talked that out. Now I feel better. Now I'm not gonna go ahead and do that, you know? Unlike some people who follow through with their their inner ids, you know? It's yeah. Ridiculous. And then you're busy trying to stay out of jail when it's like, had you really sat and thought this through for five seconds, you wouldn't have to deal with this to begin with. This was kind of a dumb thing for me to do. Yes. And unless you are actively like being attacked, murder is never the answer. Never ever. At any rate, that is our show for today. We will well, not we. Kenneth, I definitely think you should come back. Absolutely. Thank you for having me. Anytime. Anytime, just let me know. I'm always down. Thank you so much for having me. Yeah. Same I always say same time, but I'm just like, girl, you know you never release your episodes at the same time of day. It's just whenever I get done editing. But we'll see you back next week. Same day. And until then, stay mischievous, friends.