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Your taxes funded what? | HBR Talk 344 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to HBr Talk three forty four. Your
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  Speaker 1: taxes funded what I'm your host, Hannah Wallen here with
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  Speaker 1: Nonsense Annilator, Lauren Brooks and the Personification of perceptivity Mike Stevenson,
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  Speaker 1: and tonight we're digging up rabbit turds a better way
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  Speaker 1: to put this. Some of the stuff that we're going
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  Speaker 1: to be looking at tonight is just stupid, and then
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  Speaker 1: some of it is also going to be a little
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  Speaker 1: upsetting because our government's actually in the United States here
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  Speaker 1: is actually funding the export of some really atrocious activities.
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  Speaker 2: But I was about to say, rabbit rabbit turds are
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  Speaker 2: really small, yes, so that's not an effect.
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  Speaker 1: But you fund them in a rabbit hole.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, rabbits tend to recreate quite quickly, so rabbit
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  Speaker 2: tad's multiply by their millions. So I was going to say,
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  Speaker 2: maybe it's more like elephant toads, But elephant toads reproduced
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  Speaker 2: fairly slowly, so yeah, it's more like mouse turds. And
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  Speaker 2: if you could imagine millions of mice dropping millions of
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  Speaker 2: turds on your on your soil, that's that's what it's like.
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  Speaker 1: That's fitting. Although people should bear in mind. As beloved
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  Speaker 1: as rabbits are, in a lot of ways, they are
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  Speaker 1: rodents in where I come from. If the rabbit didn't
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  Speaker 1: come from the pet store, it's a pest. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: or dinner, depending on you know how big it is.
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  Speaker 1: Rabbits don't get very big in the wild. In town
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  Speaker 1: in Ohio, you can find them big enough to eat
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  Speaker 1: out in the woods, but not. I'm reminded of your
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  Speaker 1: hands put together.
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  Speaker 2: I'm reminded of a certain dukstand hup routine. Well, you
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  Speaker 2: love kittens, right, Everyone likes kittens. But if you came
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  Speaker 2: home one day and there were thousands of kittens in
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  Speaker 2: your house, you would you would start stamping them to death, Like,
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  Speaker 2: oh my god, there's fucking thousands of kittens here. Fucking
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  Speaker 2: kill them, shoot them to death, stamp on their heads in.
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  Speaker 1: Star Trek reference to tribbles here.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. Yeah, everyone loves small fairy animals until there's millions
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  Speaker 2: of them.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's another issue with rabbits, right, they eat your food.
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  Speaker 1: They steal from your garden, and if you have a grain,
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  Speaker 1: they steal from your granary. Uh. They do carry the
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  Speaker 1: same viruses that other rodents carry. You know they're they're
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  Speaker 1: just as dangerous. So when they live around human habitations,
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  Speaker 1: they're they're a pest. When they they're cute, they're cute, fuzzy,
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  Speaker 1: they're just like squirrels, right, Uh, cute fuzzy little tree
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  Speaker 1: rats with good pr Yes, And I'll have an animosity
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  Speaker 1: towards squirrels or anything like that. I just think they're overrated.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think people should be mean to them. And
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  Speaker 1: I have hand fed squirrels in the past.
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  Speaker 2: The rats with big cute tails, And to.
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  Speaker 1: Be honest, I have had pet rats when I was younger.
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  Speaker 1: I was too allergic to cats and dogs to have
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  Speaker 1: the kind of pets that other kids had, so I
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  Speaker 1: had I had trained rats. So they're pretty smart for
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  Speaker 1: having a brain the size of a almond or smaller.
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  Speaker 1: But in any case, rabbit turns. So the big, big
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  Speaker 1: problem with rabbit turns is, uh, they're they're kind of useless,
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  Speaker 1: and they're rather numerous. Like Mike said, rabbits breed. They
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  Speaker 1: overbreed quite rapidly, and so if you don't do anything
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  Speaker 1: about the situation when you find and a bu undn't
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  Speaker 1: supply of rabbit turns, you end up overrun pretty quickly.
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  Speaker 1: And that's that's kind of the situation here, Like I've
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  Speaker 1: noticed it in the last few weeks as we've been
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  Speaker 1: looking at this funding. One of the major characteristics of
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  Speaker 1: the funding of feminism feminist initiatives anti mail initiatives, because
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  Speaker 1: some of them aren't necessarily feminist or kind of centric.
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  Speaker 1: They're just straight up anti mail. These initiatives. They're not
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  Speaker 1: like individually huge all the time. Some of them are,
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  Speaker 1: but but a lot of it. It's a nickel for
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  Speaker 1: this organization, a dime for this organization, and by the way,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to put in these dozen organizations, one at
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  Speaker 1: a time for a little bit here and a little
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  Speaker 1: bit there, and by the time you get done, it's
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  Speaker 1: billions of dollars. But they have plausible deniability for any
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  Speaker 1: one organization getting a lot of money, so they can
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  Speaker 1: turn around and say, oh, all you found is this,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so many thousand dollars here, are so many
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars there, Or the organization hides some reprehensible thing
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  Speaker 1: that it does in among a bunch of things that
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  Speaker 1: are you know, okay or even altruistic, or they hide
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  Speaker 1: it with coded language, like instead of helping victims of
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  Speaker 1: intimate partner and sexual violence regardless of the sex of
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  Speaker 1: the victim and the sex of the perpetrator. They label
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  Speaker 1: it gender based based violence so that they can limit
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  Speaker 1: their assistance to only women who accuse and their animosity
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  Speaker 1: to only men who are accused. And these are all
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  Speaker 1: things that combine to create a kind of wall and
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  Speaker 1: with a bunch of tiny little bricks or a mountain
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  Speaker 1: of tiny little rabbit turds. So there we go. That's
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  Speaker 1: when I say we're digging up rabbit turds. That's basically
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  Speaker 1: what we're doing is finding all the little little bits
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  Speaker 1: and pieces of shit that are being funded by our government.
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  Speaker 1: So it looks like my screen is not showing my tab, oh,
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  Speaker 1: because it wants to, I think show the tab that
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  Speaker 1: I closed. That was the after show last last week.
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  Speaker 1: This week's after show, we're going to start watching a video,
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  Speaker 1: kind of an interesting video. Let's see if I can
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  Speaker 1: enlarge this and still be able to see the whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: Not quite, but we'll deal with it. So last week
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  Speaker 1: we were looking at let me go back to the
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  Speaker 1: name of the organization you can see, the Engender Health
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  Speaker 1: Respond Project, and we looked at their respond project. We
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  Speaker 1: looked at their research, we looked at their promotion of
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  Speaker 1: vas ectomy. We looked at I think they're claimed to
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  Speaker 1: do a holistic approach, and what they really mean by
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  Speaker 1: holistic is he for she right, And then we got
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  Speaker 1: into this let me see you. I can find the
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  Speaker 1: front page of this this PDF file here. This is
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  Speaker 1: some of the training that they use in foreign countries.
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  Speaker 1: Two teach their the leadership that they're training in foreign countries.
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  Speaker 1: This is this is how they export this stuff. Right.
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  Speaker 1: They get a set of people in whatever country they're
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  Speaker 1: operating in, and they're they're gonna run systems for assistance
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  Speaker 1: like shell for victims of domestic violence or victims of
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  Speaker 1: intimate partner and sexual violence, or they're going to run
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  Speaker 1: a food bank or you know, things like that helped
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  Speaker 1: to build a school where there is no school, so on,
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  Speaker 1: And they give them this kind of training so that
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  Speaker 1: whatever project they're working on, this this training influences the
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  Speaker 1: way that they treat the people that are coming to
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  Speaker 1: them for help. So this one is Gender Youth and
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  Speaker 1: Social Inclusion Staff Training Manual. And what we were looking
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  Speaker 1: at was one of these exercises. I think I in
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  Speaker 1: the table of contents down here that we were looking at.
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  Speaker 1: This was the in the list of tools that they're
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  Speaker 1: they are using to teach people, and this specific tool
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  Speaker 1: we scroll back up, let's see we have a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of this. One was called power Walk and it's
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  Speaker 1: basically a group exercise like you would do in a classroom.
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  Speaker 1: You remember when you were kid and you were in
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  Speaker 1: elementary school, sometimes your teacher would run you through and
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  Speaker 1: exercise a thought exercise about a lesson that you were doing,
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  Speaker 1: like understanding something about some foreign country that you're studying
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  Speaker 1: in social studies, or doing math problems in a particular
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  Speaker 1: way and having the students solve math problems. But this one,
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  Speaker 1: or like the anti bullying stuff that a lot of
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  Speaker 1: younger people went through in school, where they try to
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  Speaker 1: teach you to see things from the perspective of students
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  Speaker 1: that you might bully because they're different from you. This
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  Speaker 1: is kind of supposed to be it's modeled after that
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  Speaker 1: same style, right, And we looked at this, and you
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  Speaker 1: remember last week we went through and we looked at
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  Speaker 1: the power Walk characters. The list of power Walk characters here,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to actually widen us a little bit
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  Speaker 1: and get that so that it's not covered by this
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  Speaker 1: little bit on the side there. So these were supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be in this exercise considering things from the perspective
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  Speaker 1: of these different characters that this exercise creator made up.
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  Speaker 1: And remember last week, what we noticed about these characters
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  Speaker 1: was there were men and women and boys actually don't yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's a girl here. But the female characters were all
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  Speaker 1: victims of something where they were really they had some
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  Speaker 1: characteristic that they're they're especially good people, like this one,
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  Speaker 1: the woman aged sixty grandmother caring for five orphans. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's like the character in the I can't think of what.
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  Speaker 1: It's called the trolley car problem, where you have the
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  Speaker 1: you know, five five criminals are one really good person.
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  Speaker 1: You know, which which are you gonna save? Where you're
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  Speaker 1: considering people based on their characteristics rather than their humanity,
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  Speaker 1: and and it goes through. You're supposed to hand out
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  Speaker 1: these strips of paper to your students and explain that
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  Speaker 1: they're what they're different people in the community and get
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  Speaker 1: people to consider like get themselves into the role. And
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  Speaker 1: each participant only gets one and then they have to
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  Speaker 1: stand in a straight line facing you, and then you
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  Speaker 1: ask them these questions and they're they're yes or no
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  Speaker 1: answer questions that they have to consider from the perspective
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  Speaker 1: of their character. And so you have these men in
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  Speaker 1: positions of power. Mostly I think like one guy is
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  Speaker 1: a victim and he's gay or something, and both boys
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  Speaker 1: can be victims, but not adult men, right, and all
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  Speaker 1: the women are either victims or angels. You know, it's
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  Speaker 1: very polarized. And then these questions are designed to sort
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  Speaker 1: of enhance your view of victimhood or privilege. So they're
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  Speaker 1: they're trying to divide people in these countries by perception
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  Speaker 1: of power. And if you look at these questions, there
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  Speaker 1: are things that can differ in a lot of circumstances.
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  Speaker 1: For instance, I haven't become a different person in terms
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  Speaker 1: of what characteristics they would apply to me as far
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  Speaker 1: as victimhood or power whatever. Between moving from the small
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  Speaker 1: town that I lived in originally to the various communities
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  Speaker 1: that I have lived in to now living in this
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  Speaker 1: neighborhood here, and that first question I would have answered
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  Speaker 1: differently between the different communities. There's some of those communities
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  Speaker 1: I have walked to the hospital alone at night and
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  Speaker 1: other places, and then other communities I've lived in hospital
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  Speaker 1: was too far away, or the community didn't have a
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  Speaker 1: hospital and you didn't go out at night, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So like there's people's perspectives would
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  Speaker 1: affect these, right, But you're supposed to just look at
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  Speaker 1: it in terms of whether you're a victimized female or
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  Speaker 1: a not victimi mail. But before we get into this list,
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  Speaker 1: we gotta do what we gotta do. We'll still look
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  Speaker 1: up the rabbit turns. But speaking of things to consider,
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  Speaker 1: because it doesn't say done after it, although it was
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  Speaker 1: reacted to so yesterday at two o eight pm during
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  Speaker 1: another stream, and there's no context for this guy. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: Great Indoors gave us fifty eight dollars and said to
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  Speaker 1: the tune of the Beatles song and he didn't say
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  Speaker 1: which one, just all you need is but he didn't
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  Speaker 1: give the name of the song. So it's all you
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  Speaker 1: need is fifty eight percent.
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  Speaker 3: It's all on one popa pa.
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  Speaker 1: All you need is fifty eight percent. I'm not even
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  Speaker 1: going there. I don't know what this is. All you
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  Speaker 1: need is fifty eight percent. I'm assuming this has to
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  Speaker 1: do with some sort of statistic that the feminists either
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  Speaker 1: feminist love and have promoted and might not be true,
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  Speaker 1: or feminist hate and are upset about, or possibly some
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  Speaker 1: division of power where women actually have have fifty eight
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  Speaker 1: percent in some All you.
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  Speaker 2: Need, friend, all you need is fifty eight percent.
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  Speaker 1: Fifty eight percent is all you need. You know. It
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  Speaker 1: sounds like what they tell men about about their dicks,
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  Speaker 1: trying to promote circumcision. No, No, fifty eight percent is
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  Speaker 1: all you need. And then then of course we've run
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  Speaker 1: into women who have the other end of the discussion.
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  Speaker 1: Don't believe. I hate the whole thing. So here we go, Sorry, guys,
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  Speaker 1: how to do that? It's power walk statements. So you
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  Speaker 1: imagine that you're from a nation where maybe it's been
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  Speaker 1: war torn, maybe there's not a lot of technological advancement
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  Speaker 1: that are maybe common here in the United States, like
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  Speaker 1: showing a lot of skin or just going places just
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  Speaker 1: to go someplace, like shopping without a purpose, which is
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  Speaker 1: mainly a female behavior and really gets expensive you know
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  Speaker 1: something along those lines, or maybe hospitals are scarce, maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's been disease ridden. Maybe there's a big culture clash
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  Speaker 1: between two religions in your area, or maybe there's a
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  Speaker 1: a situation where your culture has been dramatically changed over
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  Speaker 1: time by such a such a culture clash. So these
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  Speaker 1: people from in this foreign country whose culture is dramatically
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  Speaker 1: different from yours, come in to preach to you about
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  Speaker 1: victimhood and privilege based on gender right, and they give
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  Speaker 1: you these characteristic things. Maybe you get girl age twelve
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  Speaker 1: living with HIV told by a service provider not to
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  Speaker 1: have sex or attend school. But actually you're fifty eight
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  Speaker 1: year old family man who has two jobs, and you're
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  Speaker 1: supposed to consider things from her perspective. And oh and
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  Speaker 1: you have a daughter, so of course when you see
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  Speaker 1: girl age twelve, you're going to think about your daughter.
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  Speaker 1: Or maybe you're you get the one that says woman
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  Speaker 1: age twenty secretly a lesbian forced to marry a man,
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  Speaker 1: and you're actually a twenty year old, twenty year old woman,
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  Speaker 1: and so you just think about how horrible it would
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  Speaker 1: be to be forced to marry someone you didn't love,
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  Speaker 1: and therefore you know you're thinking about this from from
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  Speaker 1: terms of victimhood and stuff like that, and you see
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  Speaker 1: these power walk statements. I can visit a hospital alone
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  Speaker 1: any time of the day or night, and you're supposed
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  Speaker 1: to ask or no answer that question like, I don't know, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: would you go out walking alone? You're you're in London, right, Mike.
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  Speaker 3: No I I I'm in an undisclosed, undisclosed rural area
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  Speaker 3: of Britain. When I lived in London, Hell no, well
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  Speaker 3: I did because I was trying to become a musician
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  Speaker 3: and a comedian.
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  Speaker 2: At one point I walked from Wilsden to uh, I
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  Speaker 2: whatever it is.
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  Speaker 1: Would you do it today?
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  Speaker 2: No? Hell no, I I When I lived in London
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  Speaker 2: it was under Boris Johnson. That was bad enough back
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  Speaker 2: in the day. Because I had fuck all money, I
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  Speaker 2: would I would walk for two hours just to get
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  Speaker 2: to an open mic comedy night, and then I would
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  Speaker 2: walk back because it was cheaper than getting the tube
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  Speaker 2: or getting the bus, because that's how desperate I was.
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  Speaker 2: And And yeah, it should have occurred to me that
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  Speaker 2: at some point walking from Willesden to Islington it was
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  Speaker 2: And those of you who live in London will will
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  Speaker 2: go wait what the fuck. Yeah, because that's a two
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  Speaker 2: hour walk one way. There's a four hour walk here
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  Speaker 2: and here and there. I would I would do that
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  Speaker 2: on a regular basis, just to to try and indulge
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  Speaker 2: in in my dream to become a comedian. And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I this is why I wrote that song never been Raped,
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  Speaker 2: because because I would wonder from district to district in London,
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  Speaker 2: and it was amazing that I never got raped. I
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  Speaker 2: did get mugged once just because I walked through uh
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  Speaker 2: a park in my local area. I did that once,
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  Speaker 2: just just for the sake of going for a walk
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  Speaker 2: through through a local park. And at that point I
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  Speaker 2: got mugged by five chaps of a race who are
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  Speaker 2: very good at running mm hmmm, and and and so
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  Speaker 2: I didn't fancy my chances at running away and so
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: and but I also lived in Hull, Kingston upon Hull,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: which is a northeastern city, and one I was walking
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: home from a nightclub one day and I just got
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: spattered about the face by a bunch of white guys.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: So I don't it sort of doesn't matter what race
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: you are or what race your criminal offenders are, sort
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: of wherever you are, as long as you're in a
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: city in Britain, You're you're never quite safe. Yeah, from
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: from from the people who will try to kill you
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: at all times. It's it's an awful place to live,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: especially the closer you are to cities. Please please let
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: me into your country, America.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Do I control of it?
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: You'd be here already, refugee, Yeah, I mean, the the
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: the criteria are if if if you're discriminated against for
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: your political views or whatnot.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, you're getting there, aren't you.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: I really am. I'm trying to get in just by
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: getting married to Lauren. But surely I should need to
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: resort to that sort of thing because I'm MEGTAU and
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Lauren doesn't want to get married. Like I should be
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: able to get into your country just because I'm politically
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say oppressed, but you know, yeah,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: it's getting there. I don't I don't know how to
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: describe it without saying oppressed.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: It is kind of it is in a way, it's
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: kind of oppressive that you have to invite the government
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: into your relationship in order to you'd go from one
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: political oppression to another. But it's at least easy to
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: deal with the political oppression of having to invite the
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: government into your relationship as opposed to having the government
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: tell you that you can't criticize people for trying to
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: stab you.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: At the same time, I, you know, I don't want
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: the American government to invite everyone who happens to feel
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: hard done by, you know, because that's that's kind of
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: exactly the point that the Trump administration is trying to
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: get across, and exactly the point that myself and the
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: likes of those politically are kind with me. I'm trying
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: to get across, like, you shouldn't be able to come
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: into a country just because you feel unsafe. It should
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: be a bit more sinister than that. But in my case,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: it is a bit more sinister than that.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, some people feel unsafe when they're not, and other
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: people are overconfident. On the visiting a hospital alone, It's
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: easier for me because if I have a I have
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: a vehicle, so I don't have to walk. I just
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: go out and get my van and go to the hospital.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I don't need any ambulance, unless, of course, you know,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: I get knocked out, in which case an ambulance is
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: quite useful because still legal to drive while you're unconscious.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: They frown on that here in Ohio, but learn I
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: don't know if you have Do you have a vehicle?
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, I do.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: It is in for repairs right now.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Uh so subject, Yeah, it would you be able to
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: visit high.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Profession is all about vehicles there, you go, Yeah.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but if I I mean, I think I could this,
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: This neighborhood is safe enough. If I was maybe a
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: mile or two down the road, I would not feel
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: as comfortable.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: We really need to resettle in New Hampshire, where apparently
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: they've already abolished income taxes pretty close and that's that's
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: a short drive from where you are right now.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: I don't know how expensive it is to live there,
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: but that is definitely an option.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: If they have as taxes, it's it's going to be
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: cheaper than you know, places that have higher taxes, or
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: at least the costs of everything will be more straightforward. Yeah, particulably.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: But then then it goes on. I can visit a
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: hospital alone, even if it is far from my house,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: and of course those of us with vehicles, the answer
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: is easily yes. And you know, I go back to
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: mic with this because I know you don't have a vehicle,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: right if I'm unless I'm mistaken.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm capable of driving, but I'm only going
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: to do it if I absolutely have to because I
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: hate driving.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: That's that's a that's another thing that doesn't. None of
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: these things that they had on the cards determine, uh,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: necessarily your ability to travel a long distance, but uh,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: if you don't have a vehicle. And for instance, when
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: I was a little kid, when I had my first
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: asthma attack that was near fatal. When I say near fatal,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I'm not exaggerating either. They told my parents if we'd
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: have been five minutes later, I'd have been dead. Yep.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: We lived in a community that did not have its
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: own hospital, and the nearest hospital was far enough away
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: that it usually would take twenty or thirty minutes to
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: drive there. My dad had worked as an ambulance driver
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: when he was in the summertimes in between years in school,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: when he was senior and I think it's junior in
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: high school. And this was back by the way, when
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: ambulances were not run by hospitals. At that time, they
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: were not owned and run by hospitals. They were owned
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: and run by funeral homes. So the ambulance was a
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Hearse back then, and so it was a big Cadillac Hearse,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: and that's what my dad had driven, and so he,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: you know, he put Mom and me in the car
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: and floored it all the way to Lima, Ohio, from
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: a community close to Wapacnetta, which was, like I said,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: about twenty or thirty minutes between the home we were
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: living in and the actual hospital that we were going to.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: And the only reason that we were able to get
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: there as quickly as we got there, you know, was
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: that the cop that pulled up behind us perceived that
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: there was something going on that he needed to help with.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Instead of pulling my dad over, he looked in and
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: saw this blue faced little kid slung over Mom's shoulder
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: with wide eyes and wide open mouth trying to breathe,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: and pointed at my dad and then did this go
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: for motion, you know, with his with his hand, went
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: around in front of us and then took us through Lima.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: At every intersection, he would he would run his siren
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: in his lights and then we didn't have to slow
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: down all the way through town. We drove through this
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: this area of Lima that's about twenty five to thirty
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: five miles an hour on different streets at about seventy
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: and and then he pulled us out of the car
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: and helped get me on the gurney, after which I
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: passed out. But so that I wouldn't have been able
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: to get to the hospital alone. I was a little kid, right,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: But even if i'd have been twenty, you know, in
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: that situation, if it had been a distance from my
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: house with an asthma attack like that, you know that circumstance,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been able to go to the hospital alone.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I would have needed somebody to take me. We often
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: talked about a difference.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: We often talk in Britain about how great the NHS is,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: the Natural Health Service. But even if I was transported
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: to a hospital, it's on the National Health Service. They
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: will be like, Okay, thank you for coming in. We'll
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: put you on a queue and in two years you
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: can you can get the treatment you need.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if they went two years to give you a
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: uterol or in my case, an EpiPen, it that was
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: that that you're dead, You're gone.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: It's it's like that meme the the American Health Services,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Oh you need a stitch that will cost you one
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars. In Britain, it's okay, come back in two years.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: And in Canada is like, have you considered dying? Yeah,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: and we're not We're not far behind Canada. We're gonna
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: get there. Have you considered dying in two years?
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, you come back in two years and we'll
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: we'll give you the lethal injection, the other lethal injection.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: So like those first two, both of them, I'm looking
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: at that and it doesn't bode well for this list
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: because there are a lot of other factors that can
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: affect these things besides somebody's situation. But you're only supposed
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: to consider whether somebody's sex in their marriage situation, Their age,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: you know, affects this and nothing else. What's the dominant religion?
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: You know that, How does that affect it? Not anything else.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I do not need anyone's permission to visit a health center.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: So if you're underage in the United States, you do.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: If you're twelve, If you're the twelve year old boy,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: your mom has to sign you in, or your dad
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: has to sign you in, or your guardian. If you
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: don't have biological parents, you can't just go to the hospital.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Of course, your teacher at school can take you to
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: if you're a twelve year old girl, can take you
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: to an abortion clinic and they won't tell your parents.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: But they can't give you an aspirin because you're underage,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: and aspirin is more dangerous apparently than abortion. But both
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: of you guys could probably the same answer as me. No,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: I don't need anybody's permission to visit a hell center.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: You need the health center's permission, though you can get
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: trespassed out and being not allowed to come back for
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: some things. I can decide when and at what age
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: I want to get married. You're supposed to consider that
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: based on gender, and I'm sure that there are countries
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: where that differs depending on the sex of the individual,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: because of arranged marriage and and because in some countries
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: it affects one sex more than the other. But you know,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: I when I was a kid, I decided I was
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: going to get out of high school, go to college, graduate,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: and get married. None of that went the way I expected.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: I was twenty eight when I had or twenty seven
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: when I had my son, and thirty when we made
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: our marriage legal. My husband and me we invited the
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: government into our relationship three way with Uncle Sam, right,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: So none of that happened for me the way that
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: and I am a free woman living in a free country.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: And it was the same for him. He decided none
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: of that. He got pressured into marriage out of high
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: school and then got divorced. And you know, so like again,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: this is you're looking at They're looking at this in
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: terms of gender being the only factor or religion being
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: the only factor. I can choose my life partner on
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: my own. Most places that have arranged marriage only you know,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: they arrange it for both sexes are forced into it.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I can decide whether I want to become pregnant or
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: conceive with my partner. So, Mike, do you think you
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: can decide whether you want to become pregnant.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: I am. I already identify as pregnant.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: I can see with my partner thing is the guy's part.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: But it just like struck me there. I can decide
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: whether I want to become pregnant. And this really drives
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: me nuts too, because again they're going into cultures where
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: family relationships are tighter than they are in a lot
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: of Western like the family has really been broken down
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: in Western culture, right, and so in my family it's weird.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: I would have thought my parents would have been upset
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: when I got pregnant out of wedlock, but my mom
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: was beside herself with happiness. She just was like, I'm
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: gonna be grandma, you know, uh, And she was excited
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: about there was going to be a baby. She just
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: that was just my mom. That's the way she always was.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: But nobody would have stopped me, and and nobody would
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: have forced me because we live in a Western culture.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: In in some cultures that are closer to their old
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: traditions and their old family traditions. It's it's not so
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: much that pregnancy is necessarily forced upon an individual, but
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of pressure to conceive shortly after getting married,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: and it's part of the expectation of family life. But
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: at the same time, you're raised to have that as
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: a goal, that you're going to get married and then
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: you're going to strive for conception so that you can
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: be parents, raise your children. And a lot of times
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: your children are part of your family's business. They work
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: around the home, and so it's not just it's not
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: just a matter of oh, we love children and we
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: want children, it's we need children, and it's it's normalized.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: But again, they're gonna be looking at it from terms
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: of gender. So we go back up to the very top,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: well not that top ding it and I went too far.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Feminists tell me that all the time. Let me get
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: back down here. I skipped all this stuff, or skipped
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: all this stuff, but read a lot of this stuff before.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: And are we Yeah, go back to so you have
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: women age twenty five with three children once to use contraception,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: but her husband is opposed. How do you think she's
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: gonna answer that question? I get to decide when Oh shit,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: I just closed all my other tabs. That's not what
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I wanted to do. I get to decide when I'm
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna have kids? All right, Maybe maybe she
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: she gets to decide, Maybe she doesn't. Uh, But the
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: big thing is is it is it necessarily gendered? Like?
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: What country are they in? Let me see if I
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: can uh open these tabs back up here. Oh, it's
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: gonna make me do them all at once. Hang on,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: let me see if I can. Sorry, Oh that's weird.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: My most recent tabs are not the one that ones
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: that it wants to hum. We'll get him back open here.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: This will take a minute. Good grief, letast try this.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna jop down this timestamp so I know
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: what to delete.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just hitting shift control tea a bunch of times.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: That'll reopen pretty much everything. But and then we will
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: go back to where I was. All right, So you
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: look at this, and again we have all these Woman
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: twenty five, three children, wants to use contraception, but her
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: husband is as opposed. Oh, she's oppressed, right. Man forty,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: police officer and friend of the president. Not not not oppressed? Right?
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Woman twenty one lives without it, lives with a disability
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: and cannot move outside her house without support. Gee, she
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: can't go to the hospital by herself. Woman thirty five,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: married with four children. Husband does not allow her to
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: go outside without his permission and does not want her
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: to use contraception. So we have these predisposed ideas of victimhood.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Man aged forty five, teacher at local school with strong
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: religious beliefs.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: I know we don't have any contingencies about men who
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: are disabled in some way, right, because the average woman
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: would not stay with a man who is disabled.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, right, here we have a man who's rich,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: local administrator, strong religious beliefs, and again this is the
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: running theme. The women are victims, the men are privileged,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: the men are powerful. Transgender adolescent which which direction doesn't say,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: age seventeen, unemployed and sexually abused and bulloied. And you
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: get down and you get these questions again. Boy age fifteen,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: caring for sick mother and siblings, dropped out of school,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: recently became sexually active, and does not know about HIV
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: and other sexually transmitted infections. Right, so not a man,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: he's a kid. And the questions become insulting when you
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: start looking at them with this idea of all women
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: are oppressed, all men have power, all men are privileged,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: all men are more capable in their lives than women,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: you know, and so on, Whereas this idea of women
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: being unable to go places without a man's permission, or
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: unable to do things like just for themselves, make choices,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: use birth control without a man's permission, and some of
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: these are so repetitive. I can decide whether I want
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: to become pregnant or conceive with my partner, I can
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: decide when I want to have children, these two decisions.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: If you can't decide the first one, then you can't
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: decide the second one. And if you can decide the
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: first one, then you can decide the second one. And
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: in a lot of instances, women have control that they're
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: not admitting. For instance, if you look at the range
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: of birth control that's available, men have condoms or sterilization.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Women have a full spectrum of like forty separate iterations
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: of eleven different categories of birth control, including you know,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: those eleven different subcategories of a few different categories. Because
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: if you lump all the different times of her.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure if you said forty or four D.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Forty yeah for D four dimensions, Well that you can
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: do it that way. I mean, you think about it
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: if I decided that I wanted to really go overboard
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: in addition to like, the most effective thing is, obviously
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: if you're trying to prevent prevent pregnancy, and if you were,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: like in a non monogamous relationship, you'd really want to
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: do this. Condom use is the only thing that prevents
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: some STIs. None of the other types of birth control
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: prevent any STI transmission, and the condoms do prevent the
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: transmission or at least reduce the rate of transmission for
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: some STIs not all of them. There are STIs that
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: condoms don't touch. They're not gonna save you from monkey
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: pocks or any of the other types of pocs because
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: they live on your skin and you're gonna have skin
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: to skin contact during sex. Or rather, if you don't
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: have skin to skin contact during sex, you're not doing
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: it right. But yeah, if I decided I wanted to
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: go overboard, you could add to the condom a hormonal
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: type of birth control, a barrier method for women that
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: doesn't interfere with the condom, and an interrupter that that
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: would prevent implantation if conception occurred like an I U
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: d okay, So I didn't say anything about a bomb
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: in the uterus, but TITO could have four different things
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: at work besides a condom options.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: By all accounts, women should be more afraid of sexually
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: transmitted diseases than men are, because the likes of chlamydia
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: is simpleness in males but possibly in serializing infantilization in women,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: and the same goes with AIDS. It's very easy for
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: a man to transmit AIDS to a woman. It's very
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: difficult for a woman to transmit as to a man.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: And yet we're still left with this paradigm where men
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: are kind of attracted to female virgins and women are
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: not attracted to male virgins. And this is something that
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: keeps getting overlooked when it comes to this idea that
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: women are demonized for having sex with too many men
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: and men are celebrated for having sex with as many
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: women as possible.
• 48:39
  Speaker 6: And this keeps it keeps being seen as a way
• 48:49
  Speaker 6: in which men are privileged and women are not.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: But it's not going to change as long as women
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: are attracted to men who have bedded many women. Yeah,
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: and men are not attracted to women who have bedded
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: many men and ye. So many feminists sort of portray
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: this as as men having more privilege than women, but
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: it needs to be said. It's the Touching a man
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: is considered a sin, Touching a woman is considered a virtue.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: It's kind of there's two different things. Touching a man
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: is considered a sin because touching a man soils the toucher.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: According to the social standards, right, touching a woman can
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: be considered a virtue unless she doesn't want you to
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: do it, and then it's a crime because it soils
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: the person being touched.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: The standards, there's a difference between.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Women face one difficult standard to navigate, men face multiple
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: difficult standards to navigate. And I've noticed that we are
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: we're only judged when we sleep around. We're only judged
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: on the idea that we have devalued our our our
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: sexual value, that we have soiled ourselves with the taint
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: of masculinity. That you know, and men are judged both
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: for being not attractive enough to get a bunch of
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: women interested in them, and also for usurping or trespassing
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: against women. And then they're also they're also judged for
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: not valuing women enough to leash themselves even when they
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: have the capacity to get the interest of a lot
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: of different women. So you know, you're judged for being disloyal.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: We're not allowed to judge women anymore for being disloyal
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: even when they're in a committed monogamous relationship. To the
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: degree that women will make stupid posts on social media
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: about real men being willing to raise another man's child
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: because it's his responsibility and bullshit like that, when in reality,
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: what they're saying is I'm entitled to be disloyal and
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: you can't say anything about it. Can you imagine for
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: a minute if a man made a social media post
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: that was the equivalent real women. Real women would be
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: willing to raise a child that a man brought home
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: from another woman's womb, like real women would be able
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: to share their man. You know, Oh, you walk in
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: and he's in bed with another woman, Well you meant
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: better add another seat at the dinner table, right, Yeah?
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: How long do you think women would put up with that?
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: How many women do you think would flood that post
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: with anger and rage and vitriol?
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: Oh, forget it, they'd report him into next year.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: You know you did it, like I so the standards,
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: and I think a lot of men are so used
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: to it they don't think about it. And they don't
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say they don't feel it, because
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: you can tell they feel it. They just deal with it.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: I don't even complain about it very much. Right. They
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: deal with the fact that they're gonna get virgin shamed
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: for not getting laid. But if they get laid and
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: then the woman gets mad at them, then they're gonna
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: get player shamed. Or cad shamed, rapist shamed, creep shamed,
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: you know, cheater shamed, you know whatever, Like there is
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: no way for a man to guarantee tee that he's
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: doing the right thing. He could do what he is
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: absolutely told is the right thing, and all it takes
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: is for a woman to not like it and it
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: suddenly becomes wrong. Like what are guys supposed to do?
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: I couldn't navigate that? Mm hm, And you look at
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: this list, I can decide whether I want to become
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: pregnant or conceived with my partner. Oh, which sex is
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: famous for sabotaging the other sexes birth control surreptitiously or
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: waiting until the other sex is out of the room
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: after the act and then self inseminating. It's not men, right.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: Birth control sabotaged by men is a lot more rare.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: It's very difficult for a man to sabotage a woman's
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: hormonal birth control. It's very difficult for a man to
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: He can't sabotage your birth control shots. He can't sabotage
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: your IUD. He can't sabotage your birth control, implant your
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: nor plant right so well, and he can't really sabotage
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: your spermicide either because it usually comes in a container
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: that doesn't really allow for that. But you can sabotage
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: his condom. And if he sabotages his condom in some
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: countries that's considered rape. But if you do it, it's norm right,
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: it was a it was a gift. Yeah, it was
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: a gift. Uh yeah, And again I can decide the
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: timing and spacing between my children, all right, who has
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: more power in this situation? You know, there's a lot
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: of things women can do to interfere with fertility, besides
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: going to a doctor and getting proper birth control, But
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: there's there's not so much that a man can do
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: to interfere with a woman's fertility. If he wants to
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: prevent conception, you know, I consent. And that's another one
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: right here in the United States, When an underage boy
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: is sexually abused by an adult woman and he gets
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: he gets no say, right, and she becomes pregnant, the
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: child is conceived by the act, he doesn't get custody
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: automatically because he's a kid. In fact, the child is
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: going to be born into the mother's custody. And so
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: unless she's convicted and goes to jail, and even sometimes
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: if she is in jail, that child is in her custody,
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: and in any change he wants to make to that
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: there's a fight to have there in the courtroom, and
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: in the meantime, the rapist can collect child support from
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: her rape victim. But I will bet you they never
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: look at that scenario. They think it doesn't happen.
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: They don't even believe that it happens until you show
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: them that it does happen, and then they move the
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: goalpost onto something else, you know.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, stickening. They go through this with everything too right.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: They're looking at this list contraceptive contraceptive methods, having a
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: choice without fear or backlash from partner, community, family, can
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: buy condoms, can negotiate condom use, can approach health center
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: or health outreach worker and obtain information about save sex, contraception,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: and abortion, all of these things. They're looking at all
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: of these things from a gender lens. But what is
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: the actual nature of these outreach workers and these health
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: centers in these other countries in this Let's see if
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: I can find the actual grant here. It's going to
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: have to reload every single page damn it. I'm just
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: gonna go and look at this and see if it'll
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: actually reload. It reloaded this one, all right, thirty six
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: point six million to this organization. By the way, Now
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: I was talking about nickel and diming to death, but
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: this one is actually pretty uh, pretty prolific. And this
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: is from USAIDS and this is a foreign overseas program.
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: They have some things in the USA, but if you
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: look at this, most of it goes out of the country.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: I feel like an idiot for having closed those damn tabs.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: Let's see if it will. This site is slow to
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: load because so many people have been getting in there.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: But where are we in these countries? I think this
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: is the one with they hired a person to do
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: a job. So it may not be, but I think
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: this was operating specifically in Africa. That's period of performance,
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: place of performance. This one is, yeah, this is the
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: one where they hired a person to do a job.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: Damn it. Guys, get to hear and kiss a lot.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: Or want to do a what outday.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: Person to do a job. Now, that doesn't necessarily mean
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: there was much to the job, right, So here we
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: have they admit they get most of their money from USAID. Actually,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: if I go to their main website, since we already
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: looked at this, you could sort of see, I don't
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: see any white faces on the screen here. They are
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: targeting countries full of brown people for for sterilization and
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: breaking up families and circumcising all the men. Right. And
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: here's here's where they operate their global reach, right this.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: These are the countries, these highlighted countries here or where
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: they where they operate. So these are the people that
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: they are targeting for sterilization and sabotage of family relationships.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: I notice that the overwhelming majority of them seem to
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: be in Africa, all right, So that's basically I'm not
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: gonna get go through that whole list of questions, and
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to go through every single one of
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: these these different lessons, but you can sort of see,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: you know, they they're they're asking questions to lead you
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: to the conclusion that some people get to make their
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: own decisions with regard to life changing events, and other
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: people have them forced on them. And the dividing lines
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: are gender and political positions within the progressive stack. And
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: then then they use another series of questions basically to
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: emphasize haves versus have not. You explain to the participants
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: still in the same position, that you are now going
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: to ask a series of reflection questions. They will need
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: to answer as their character, which people are leading the race,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: which people are left behind in the race? What is
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: the sex of the majority of winners? What is the
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: age of the majority of winners? Our adolescents among the
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: winners are women and girls among the winners? Are people
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: with disabilities among the winners? And so they're essentially imposing
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: the progressive stack on people in nations in Africa that
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: have issues that are far more serious than any gender issue,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: that they're now gendering these issues and gendering these people's
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: response to these issues. And at the bottom you have
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: the golden question for engender health staff, which groups should
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: we prioritize while working toward equitable access for sexual health
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: and reproductive health? So, in other words, who should we
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: serve versus who should we serve less or not serve?
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: And that's that's the questions that they start asking these people,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: and they're they're asking people to tolerate discrimination on the
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: basis of the privilege dialogue. Can you imagine you're in
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: a neighborhood full of people that have survived war, that
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: have survived famine, has survived disease, that have cultural conflicts
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: going on, that that are in desperate need of actual help.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: They need actual medical care, they need food, they need
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: negotiations between groups of people, things like that, and these
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: preachy blue hate witches come into your community and ask
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: you who they should discriminate against in favor of other people.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: And they've been doing this for like a hundred years
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: or so, and they've been trying to get across to
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: people that you know, we're in the industrial relation now,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: so you don't need to have twelve children just because
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: there's in all likelihood the possibility that seven of them
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: will die before they reach the age of five. And
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: this they're imposing this, this this European notion upon African
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: and Asian tribes in the wilderness, being all like, you
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: don't need to have as many children as possible just
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: because most of them will die. Because because they're working
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: on this paradigm that's worked in Europe because ever since
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: the Industrial Revolution, you don't have to have twelve children.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: Now now that now that we've gone through the industrial revolution.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: You can have two and they will both survive, and
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: that'll be fine. But they've they they've inflicted this paradigm
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: on everyone. Even though in Europe the idea that you
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: can only have two children means that you don't have
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: to have anymore and there and if you can stop
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: there and at that point our population has gone down.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: But they've tried to inflict this on African and Asian nations,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: whereas they're like, no, we don't have this industrial infrastructure.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: We we know we we we still have to have
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: as many children as possible because they're gonna die anyway.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: And this, this is, this is this has been the
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: problem all along, Like the people who have no trust
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: in the future will continue to have as many children
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: as possible because because because they know most of them
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: are going to die yeh and yeah. Imposing the same
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: paradigm on Europe and Africa means that Europe is is
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: going to go it's going to reduce itself to below
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: replacement rate, and Africa is going to increase itself to
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: above replacement rate. And in both of these cases, it's
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: going to fuck up both of these continents. They, like
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: I've often said, overpopulation is not a problem in Europe.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: The the infliction of the scare mongering of overpopulation is
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: Europe's biggest problem, and the scare the scare mongering of
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: underpopulation is Africa's, uh, the biggest problem, Like Europe, Europe's
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: biggest problem is underpopulation, and Africa's biggest problem is overpopulation.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: And it's difficult to get this through to the to
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: the eucophobes in our own government and indeed the xenophobes
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: in in in in foreign governments, like and this is
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: going to keep getting worse, especially as long as as
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: we're flooding the excess population from the third World into
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: the first world, that's just going to keep overpopulating the
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: first world just to drain the possibility of of population
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: in the third world. Like whether you whether you think
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: overpopulation is a problem or you think underpopulation is a problem, Yes,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: they both are problems, but they're very different paradigms in
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: in in both of these continents. And as long as
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: we're just pulling people from the third world into the
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: first world, then that's only going to overpopulate everyone. And
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: I know that so many people think no, overpopulation is
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: not a problem. Now it's never going to be a problem. No,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: it is. As long as long as we're flooding overpopulated
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: continents into the underpopulated continents, that's that's that's only gonna
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: add more demand onto the supply, you know what I mean.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: Well, you also have other complicating factors, like all right,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: so there are different groups of people, even in countries
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: that don't necessarily have as their main culture, you know,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: have a big family, have lots of children. When my
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: dad was in high school, you know, the nuclear family
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: was the norm. The nuclear family was presumed to be
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: the mother and father and like two point five children
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: on average. But he had one girlfriend, uh in school
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: that had like seventeen brothers and sisters. She's they just
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: had a big family. And like his mom or his mom,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: her mom shopped at restaurant supply businesses instead of regular
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: grocery stores and to feed the family and everything. But
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: they were not living in squalor because the father in
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: that family made quite a bit of money. He Actually
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: there's some skills that actually are even though you'd think
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: of them as not necessarily being needed commonly anymore because
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: of technology, like the advent of motorized vehicles kind of
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: eliminated the need for there to be so many people
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: who knew how to shoe horses, because you know, you're
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: not using horses for transportation anymore, you're not using horses
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: to pull your plow anymore, you're not using horses for
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: a whole lot of farm labor anymore. So horse use
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: for labor is limited now to some ranching tasks and
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: to you know, some police work and race horses, right,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: show horses, but not necessarily a whole lot of other stuff.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: So there you'd think, you know, they demand has gone
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: way down for that skill, and in a lot of instances,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: when demand goes way down, the value of the skill
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: it also goes way down. But in an instance like that,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: or blacksmithing where you see people handmaking swords and armor
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that for hobbyists, where people's hobby sort
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: of borders on profession, Like if you go to a
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: Renaissance fair, there are professional troops of jousters that wear
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: real armor and use real weapons on each other, and
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: like they're that that armor is expensive as hell. It's
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: it's as much as you know, buying a car because
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: you you need it to be as protective of you
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: in a in a joust, as your car maybe more
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: protective than your car would be in a car accident.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: And so you get these niche professions, these these very
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: limited sets of people that can do these things, and
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: it's a it's like, it's not a lost art, it's
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: a rare art. It's not a lost craft. It's a
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: rare craft, and it's it's a rare skill, and so
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: it becomes even more valuable. And uh, for example, one
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: night that dad went out in the middle of the night,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: there was a a race horse owner I think not
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: the jockey, but the owner called him because something had
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: happened the horse that that he was entering in the
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: race the next day needed a shoe replaced and he
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: hadn't been able to find anybody to do it. There
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: weren't you know, fifty people in the area that he
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: could just choose from and say, I'm going to go
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: to this guy. And this guy didn't want to get
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: up and go do the jobs. So he cited this
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: outrageous amount of like two thousand dollars. And we're talking,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: you know, in the late fifties, so that's that's quite
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: a bit even today, but back then it was much
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: much more, and in terms of buying power, he thought, Oh,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: this guy's just going to be decided it's not worth it, right, No,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: he agreed to the price. So the guy made two
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars changing one horseshoe. And so he had to
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: get up and go do it. And he learned, you know,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: to either say no or be prepared to do you know,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: what he's got to do in the middle of the night.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: But because you know, he was he had that kind
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: of of rare niche skill, and he lived in a
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: community that had a county fair that had a very
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: prolific racetrack. That's yeah, they that's Jen Bottle points out
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: shatter lances. Yeah, they do have what's called shadow lances.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: There's an interesting thing about those too, because I've sat
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: in the front row for those things the pieces go flying,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: I have seen some pretty serious near accidents where you know,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: somebody reached up. There was one time, actually we're sitting
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: in the front row at the Ohio Renaissance Fair when
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: a shard was flying at a family and the dad
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: caught it, just reached out and caught it right in
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: front of his wife's face, point headed right to her.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: She hadn't even ducked. She didn't see it coming. Because
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: when something is narrow and pointy and heading right for you,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: you're vision, can you kind of ignore it. It's very strange.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: But he was offset from her just a little bit.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: But I never saw guy move so fast. He was
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: just like and he turned white as a sheet. She
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: didn't even realize how serious the situation was. But yeah,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: in any case, so, I mean, the guy had seventeen
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: or eighteen kids, including my dad's at the time girlfriend.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: But he earned enough to support a family with eighteen kids,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: a family of twenty people, and they were comfortable, they
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: were happy, they they were fine, you know. But you
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: translate that into a country that has famine, is war torn,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: has had some disease go ripping through. Maybe they don't
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: have advanced medicine available as readily or as affordably as
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: it is here, you get a totally different story. Somebody
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: has seventeen kids, eighteen kids, their kids may not all survive.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: The mother may not survive because she isn't gonna have
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: the kind of health care throughout her births and her
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: maintenance of her health over time and so on. It's
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: a very different situation. And so you go into a
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: situation like that and you start saying, we're gonna help
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: you guys with health care, We're gonna help you with
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: reproductive and sexual health. Right, they don't need somebody to
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: come in and talk about who is privileged and who
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: should be discriminated against by the organization. They need medicine,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: They need factual information and about birth control, and about
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: sexually transmitted infections and the real ways that they can
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: avoid them. They don't They don't need to be told
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: that if somebody is bisexual they're more deserving of health
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: care than somebody who is straight. They don't need to
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: hear that a woman is more deserving of health care
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: than a man. But that's what they're getting. And and
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: this is like they literally dump this shit on these people, right,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: Like here, we have considerations for socially marginalized groups. When
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: preparing this activity, all ask participants to reflect on socially
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: marginalized groups.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: Imagine being in a community where half your population die
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: from a disease that literally ate your flesh last year,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: and the struggle in your community is, you know, now,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: we have to maintain whatever infrastructure the community has, whatever agriculture,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: the community has, whatever security the community has, and so on.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: With half the population, every family has lost people. People
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: have lost children, people of children have lost parents. Poverty
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: is now widespread, and you get these blue haired witches
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: come in. Well, we would like to talk to you
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: about our Lord and Savior LGBTQ plus.
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  Speaker 2: So how do you feel about vic Ramasami becoming the
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: governor of Ohio and bringing in a million bloody Bancho Baston.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: I actually really like him and I want I want
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: him to win. I will be voting for him.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: It's probably better than the Democrat, and.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: To be to be honest, he's better than two groups
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: of people that that have a chance of getting a
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: candidate into that office. He is better than any Democrat
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: that I have seen considered for the office. And he
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: is better than establishment Republicans. So we've had establishment Republicans
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: in control here in Ohio long enough that we are
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: we've we're one of those weirdly purple blue states where yeah,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: we have Republicans controlling the states, but most people would
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: refer to them as rhinos or as establishment Republicans, and
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: they don't really do necessarily a whole lot different from
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: the the Democrats, they're authoritarian. They focus on the wrong things,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: like we have had in Ohio, like a lot of
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: the country. We've had a heroin crisis here for quite
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: a while, and we've had a an on the streets
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: opiate drug crisis and an on the streets marijuana crisis,
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: where the drug itself is not a crisis and people's
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: use of the drug is not a crisis, but there's
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: crime committed around the illegal sale of the drug that
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: that is a crisis. So there's there's been a whole
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: bunch of stuff like that. Uh. And it's it's not
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: just it's not even just in big communities, not even
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: like Dayton for a while was the opiate capital of
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: the United States, but there have been several cities that
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: have borne that title. And uh, but it it hit
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: my little hometown, which that's a bizarre thing to have happened,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: Like that's a rural area where people are usually too
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: busy to get into that shit. And uh, and it
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: hit anyway. I lost a family member to a heroin
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: overdose on the street in New York. So it like,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: it's it's not just in areas where you would expect.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: It's everywhere, and instead of focusing on what's happening on
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: the street and you know, crack houses and gang activities,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: the Republican establishment in Ohio targeted pain care facilities for
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: people who are working with physicians to treat pain from
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: cancer and pain from arthritis and degenerative disk disease, catastrophic
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: injuries and other things that don't necessarily get better, and
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: took people that, you know, if they were on pay
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: medicine and then they also had to take medicine for
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: diabetic side effects, kidney medicine, you know, heart medicine and
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: things like that. They were considered to be drug seeking
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: because they were using medical care to treat real existing
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: ailments with drugs that are not addicted, and then they
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: were also on pain medicine and people were jailed for that.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: I knew people who went to jail for something called
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: doctor shopping, which is not listed on the books as
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: a crime, because they went to a diabetic specialist to
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: treat their diabetes, specialists to treat their diabetes, and a
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: heart specialist to treat their heart condition, and a kidney
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: specialist to treat their kidney condition, while also going to
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: a pain specialist to treat their condition. Right, That is
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: how the Republican establishment in Ohio treats Ohioans. And it
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: did nothing to get illegal drugs off the streets. It
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: did nothing to stop the heroin epidemic. It did nothing
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: to get rid of fentanyl. In fact, if you go
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: to the hospital with an injury, they're throwing fentanyl at
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: you from the rafters, even if you have medical conditions
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: that make it dangerous for you to take that, like
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: to the degree that the last time I went to
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: the er with an infection that I had sinus infection
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: that needed treatment immediately, and instead of prescribing me an
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: antibiotic for a bacterial sinus infection, they prescribed me was
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: it tilenal three with codeine after I told them I'm
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: allergic to it, and sent me off to the pharmacy
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: to find out that I wasn't getting anything to help
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: me because not only did they give me a prescription
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: for something that wouldn't help me, but I couldn't take
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: it even if I wanted to. I could, but I
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: would really suffer. Right, It's ridiculous. Yeah, And that's Ohio.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: That's what's going on in Ohio now. And I'm sure
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: it's other states are having the same problem, right, So
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm perfectly happy to just say fuck the whole establishment.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: And I don't care what party you we're talking about, Democrat, Republican,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: fuck them all right. I want somebody in there that
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: is totally different, comes from a totally different perspective, and
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: maybe we'll clean out all of this bullshit and address
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: things based on how they affect people instead of following
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: some stupid authoritarian formula. So yes, I am absolutely interested
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: in seeing ramaswamy Win. You know, he comes from a
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: different perspective. I know he's been involved with the pharmaceutical industry,
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: but and I know he got out of it, and
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: I know he's been critical of it, So we may
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: have a whole complicated perspective there that that may be
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: useful as well. But in the mean time, he's definitely
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: gonna be better than what's been going on. I've been
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: very unhappy about what's been going on. I've seen it
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: do a lot of damage to people around me. But
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: I think we've pretty much covered everything I wanted to
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: with regard to engendered health, because that's basically this is
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: just an organization that pedals feminism in foreign countries where
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: they need actual help and what they're getting feminism instead.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: We did get a super super chow from Meredith g gave
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: us five dollars and said, HBr talk three forty four
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: honey for the Badgers or should I say rabbit? Oh no, no, no,
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: it's duck season. Hmm, it is duck season. Let's see,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: get past.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: It's Alma season. It's always Elma season.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: Yes, my shit's out of order here. This isn't the
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: one I was looking for you either. Let's see, not
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: that you can see what it is, but it says
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. So
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: I know it's that image from last week that I
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: started with. But uh, there we go. All right, So
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: let me show the filter. Does it show the filter
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: search keyword? Okay, so this is where I searched circumcision.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: Let me close that back up, all right. First thing
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: you notice about circumcision is this yellow print here. Contracts
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: our our federal government money for circumcision. And this is
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: all USA spending. It's not necessarily USAIDS. It might be
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: Health and Human Services, it could be the Department of
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: Agriculture or the Department of Defense. Or which I know
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: that there was some Dodd spending that I saw in
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: there where they're paying there's a contract to provide circumcisions
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: at military hospitals. But six hundred and thirteen contracts came
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: up under the keyword circumcision. The top contract under the
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: keyword circumcision, and I believe this was the one. The
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: Dodd one. Right to Care is eighty nine million dollars
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: Jesus under the keyword circumcision. I know if I remember.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: Let me see if this is it. Nope, So I
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: looked at a few different things. I think Right to
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: Care is an organization that actually provides service to military
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: hospitals and other other hospitals other facilities in the United States.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: So this takes place in the country where they're promoting
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: circumcision in the United States. But then we have and
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: I'll let that open. Reopen this contract. This one is
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: interesting Mary Fernival, and I'm like, what company was that
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: was an individual? So the contract was for nine one
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: dollars basically to acquire the services of a consultant to
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: prepare the necessary USAID paperwork for new procurement for volunte
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: Harry Medical Mail Circumcision Service delivery and technical assistance support
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: for the USA Lesotho program and the Ministry of Health
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: and less less Sotho. So this is essentially they're paid.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: They paid somebody nine thousand dollars to prepare paperwork for
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: a program in in in less So les Sotho. Which
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: that's it. That's that's the whole grant or whole contract,
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: and that that's probably like one purchase order or one
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: small set of purchase orders.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and then probably took maybe what I'm being generous,
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 5: maybe two hours to prepare.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: Depends on what they were demanding, like eight years. So
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: among other things, like here's Uganda Medical Access Uganda Limited.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: Is the contract one hundred and seventeen point nine million,
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: and it is to procure and deliver a range of
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: HIV commodities, including voluntarily voluntary mail circumcision, medical mail circumcision.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: And they so they're promoting in Uganda, they're promoting circumcision
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: as a preventative measure against HIV. And part of this
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: expense then is for procuring medical supplies for the procedure
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: because they after they do the procedure, there's bandages, antibiotic
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: topical antibiotic use and so on and all of that,
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: and then the individual now has an open wound right
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: and they're forever changed in a way that actually makes
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: it more likely for there to be dry skin and
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: cracks and lesions and stuff that let HIV get into
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: your bloodstream. So it, in my opinion, like, not only
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: has the research been debunked by other research showing that
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: it doesn't really there isn't really a benefit. All of
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: the benefit of condom use was attributed to circumcision, and
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: when you control for the benefit of condom use, circumcision
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: has no benefit in terms of STI prevention, but it
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: actually creates damage that increases your risk. And then it
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: also creates attitudes increase your risk because people who think
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: they are invulnerable take risks that they would not take
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: if they did not think they were invulnerable.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: Mm hm. Meanwhile, you've got you've got fifteen million dollars
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: being spent on gaza, which yes, no, is not the
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: gaza that we all think of in the Middle East.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: It's the gaza in Mozambic or whatever fuck it is.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: That's there's these millions of dollars being spent on replacing
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: the god given skin layer that can do what ter
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: fifty million dollars of condoms is being spent on the
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: East African prevention of AIDS. I'm not saying four skins
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: can prevent AIDS, but fifty million dollars worth of condoms
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: aren't going to prevent it either. If if if, if
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: they're being if they're already flooded with these supernatural ideas
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: that that I don't know where to continue with this,
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: Like I'm.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: Cutting some of the skin off your dick just magically
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: protects you from viruses.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: Just stop, right, just stop, just just stop sucking each other,
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: and better than that, just stop raping each other. That's
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: that's kind of all it takes. And yeah, I don't
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: know what. I don't know what Liz two is. It
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: is not it's relatively close to Moslamic, but it's a
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: it's it's an it's an enclaved country within South South Africa.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: And there's a lot we can do to prevent all
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: sorts of things happening to Heswatini or Luzutu, which are
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: both sort of enclaves within South Africa. And yeah, there's
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: all sorts of things we can do to prevent South
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: Africa enclaves from doing all of these bastard things to
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: their to their citizens, and that would include sort of
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: helping out South Africa in all kinds of ways, but
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: that none of these none of our western countries are
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: even thinking of helping these people because that would be
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: racist or whatever. If we could, if we could, if
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: we could restore South Africa to to the glory days
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: of what is it. I will not continue with this
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: line of thought because I'm going to get fucking arrested.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: But yeah, if if South Africa was it was always
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: controlled by the Africanas, God blessed the Africanas, I would
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: It's some I don't. I don't want to have to
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: refugee all of these Africanas to our country. It would
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: be so much better if we could just let them
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: exist in South Africa. And if we did that, then
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: we wouldn't have to deal with the problems of Lizutu
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: and Azbautini because they would just be like, yeah, we
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: were wrong to to exile all of the white farmers
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: that we did from We should have learned our lesson
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: from Zimbabwe, but we're continuing to not learn our lessons
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: when it comes to South Africa. Like I was sitting
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: here worrying about what to do with Zbertini and Lazutu.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: This could all have been solved if we just didn't
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: uh try to exile all of these white farmers from
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: the South African area. And I yeah, I I should
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: stop now because well, you know, I could get a
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: whole channel canceled.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: Carry I guess a way to describe this, and it
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: doesn't have to be specific to this situation, but when
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: you have a dysfunction or an issue that you know,
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: problem that that could be solved by by doing any
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: one particular thing, and the people who claim to go
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: to that location to solve that problem, we're gonna We're
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: gonna solve everything for this group of people who have
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: just been through through the wars, through hell whatever, because
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: they need us where the where the savior from another
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: country that are gonna come in and just make everything
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: better for them. We're gonna do everything except undo the
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: thing that has led to all of this these problems
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: or has exacerbated them. We're gonna do everything but provide
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: the type of education that the people in this area
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: need in order to solve their own problems instead of
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: having to to beg us for help. Consistently. We're gonna
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: do everything except provide them with the resources and care
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: that they could use to take care of themselves and
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: lift themselves up out of their circumstances. We're gonna do
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: all the other things instead. Like that's does. It stops
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: being an accident after a while, it stops being a
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: mistake after a while, and it eventually becomes a deliberate
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: act of stringing people along to keep them dependent so
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: that you can use them as an excuse to launder
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: your money. Yep.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: The whole existence of the country of South Africa is
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: a testament to how we attempted to to to deal
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: with this problem. Like native Africans sort of, it's much
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: like in Zimbabwe. In South Africa, Afrikaanas which were Dutch
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: slash English immigrants, dare I say, they tried to develop
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: themselves in these in the lush climates of of the
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: South of Africa. And then and then they were told no, no,
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: get the fuck out of this place. We don't want
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: you white people here. And so they went, Okay, We're
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: going to go to the very southern stretches of South Africa,
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: and and and so they did. They aband they abandoned
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: the rich arable lands of of of of the southern
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: areas of Africa. And they went to the southern areas
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: of Africa that were not arable, that that seemed like
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 2: they were that couldn't possibly be farmed. And and so
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: the Africanas went to the southern tip of Africa where
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: it looked like it couldn't possibly be farmed, and and
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: they farmed it. And no matter how far they went,
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: they they they were pummeled upon by by uh African
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: tribes that no matter, no matter what the Afrikaaners did,
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: they kept saying, no, you haven't gone far enough. You
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: haven't even though you've turned these apparently un arable lands
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: into arable lands, it's not good enough. Like, no matter
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: no matter how how much you turn South Africa from
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: a desert into uh one of the most one of
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: one of one of the richest, most profitable lands in
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: all of Africa, it's still not good enough. We're going
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: to chase you to the very southern tip of Africa
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: and and at that point we're just gonna we're just
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: gonna murder you. And I don't know how to express
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: this without sounding racist, but it's you know, South Africa
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 2: was never occupied by any of these African tribes until
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: until the Africanas finally turned it into arable, farmable land.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: And then they did, and they just kept chasing them
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: two to the very tips of these things. Like I say,
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: it's much the same thing, much of the same thing
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 2: that happened in in in Zimbabwe, which many of us
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: would like to still call Rhodesia. It's and I don't
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know where we go from here, like and
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know what I mean by we, I mean
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: I I mean ancient Dutch people and ancient English people.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: As as they tried to to turn that that region
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: of the continent into into a into a productive country.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: They tried their best for centuries. And it has to
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: be asked if, if, if, if the Dutch and English
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: people who lived in this region for centuries, literally centuries,
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 2: don't count as as Africans, and the the Botswanans and
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 2: the Namibians who followed them into that land do count
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: as Africans, then the question has has to be asked, if,
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: if these, if these European invaders don't count as Africans,
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: then how on earth do the African invaders to our
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: own countries count as citizens of our own country. And
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: I've gone too far. Now, I've gone too far. This
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 2: is this is going to get it's taken down. I'm sorry.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: It's a fair question, you know, I mean, why is
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: they're a double standard. But I also have to wonder
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: some other things, like how much of that conflict was organic,
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: and how much of it was affected by the export
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: of professional victimhood and and progressive professional victimhood by the
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: United States into Africa. And it's it's not just an
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: export that takes place, you know, like they're not We're
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: not just people are not just going over there and
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: peddling this stuff. And Africans are all like, oh, that
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: sounds reasonable, We're just going to adopt that. Uh, there's
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: there's a whole campaign that's been taking place for decades
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: that individuals going over there have been like they pay people,
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: they create organizations, local organizations, they run those classes that
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: we just showed. And when I say they pay people, right,
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: we were just looking at in Uganda, Medical Access Uganda
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: Limited getting one hundred and seventeen point nine million for circumcision,
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: promoting circumcision and among other things, and then all the
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: medical supplies and so on and it you know, from
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: a perspective in the United States, you think, oh, well, yeah,
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: you know, medical supplies are very expensive. This must cover
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: that exclusively, right, But then you scroll down and it
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: doesn't show this for a lot of the things that
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: I've looked up, but it does for this one. So
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: we go down here executive compensation, and I apologize in advance.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be butchering some names here. I'm going
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: to increase the print size too, because I'm a blind
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: old bat. Here we go Officer one. I believe this
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: is soweety Muyingo one hundred and fifty thousand dollars six
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: hundred and forty nine, Rashid Satala or Saatela one hundred
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: and twenty four thousand, seventeen dollars, Alan Ken SIMI can
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: see me sixty thousand dollars, Nicholas M. Mandela sixty six thousand,
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: Andrew Uh. I don't know if two s's is still
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: pronounced as I'm assuming it's Sorsche m Gianni sixty three thousand,
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: five hundred. So we have these people getting paid thousands
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: of dollars a year executive officers who that that's administrative
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: overhead right there? Richard Bierre says, how much is the
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: administrative overhead? Well, this is not all the administrative overhead,
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: but this is the this is some administrative overhead. A
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: while back, Allison and I were looking at another organization,
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: and I don't remember whether that was in the United
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: States or whether it was in a foreign country. But
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: the thing that we noticed about it that was rather
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: significant was there was a it had a board, and
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: the one board member got something like two hundred thousand dollars.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: It was just a ridiculous amount. And when you looked
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: at her job description, she attended a couple of meetings
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: a year and wrote a grant request and that was it.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: That was her Her pay was for just a couple
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: of things there, a couple hours of meetings and essentially
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: writing a single paper to turn into this must be
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: fucking nice. Must be nice. And these are officers, they're
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: not necessarily board members, right like CEOs and stuff like that.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: So in addition to these, there will be people in
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: the organization that are even higher paid. And there probably
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: are a shit ton of people in the organization that
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: are even higher paid. This is just the executive compensation
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: that we know about. So then we go back and
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: when we look at this, this amount of money. Again,
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: we're at this this organization was awarded one hundred and
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: seventeen million dollars to operate just in Uganda, to do
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: this just in Uganda. Kind of wonder how much of
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: that really is you know, executives and and board members
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: and shit like that. How much of it is administrative overhead?
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: How many people are just getting paid a shit ton
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: of money to sit in on a couple of meetings
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: a year and do nothing the rest of the time.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: How much of that is actually going to medical supplies?
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: A fraction A fraction Yep, that's my suspicion. Anyway, So
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: I wonder if this finally opened, Ah, there we go,
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: all right, So this is the one that Oh, it's
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: not what I was thinking was I was thinking this
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: was the do odd thing that was for for the
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: VA hospitals. But this is right to care. This is
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: USAID's the us AID system and this is in Johannesburg
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: in South Africa. Ninety million. So we have, yeah, total
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: awarded amount ninety million, and if I remember it, this
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: has yeah, so the it's hard for me to not
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: read this is the purpose of this contract is to
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: implement the Voluntary Medical Mail Circumcision Service delivery. Can't help it,
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: it just it's all caps, guys. But yeah, to implement
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: the Voluntarily Voluntary Mail Medical Mail Circumcisions Service Delivery two
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: Project v m MC two to provide services to support
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: high quality, high volume involuntary Mail Medical Circumcisions service delivery
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: through fixed, static, satellite and mobile outreach vm VMM.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: This is the difference between government influence and private enterprise influence.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 2: Private enterprise enterprise influence turned South Africa into one of
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: the richest, most decent countries in in in in Africa,
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: in South Africa alone, all of Africa. But this, this
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: is what fucking oh shure, I just threw my cigarette
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: into my electronics. Okay, that's gonna burn something. But if
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 2: this is what USA does, if this is what government
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: funding does, all all it does is is influenced Africans
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 2: to be fucking MHM gay fake socialists, then this is
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: not gonna help.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: None of this is going to help.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: Money m HM exactly will while virtue signaling as a
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 2: smoke screen for the money laundering. And I'm gonna have
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 2: to mute now because I have to find this cigarette before.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: Sorry, So what you're saying is you're an ordinary guy.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: I knew you would get that burning down the house. Yeah.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: I don't think we get to know on this one.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: I don't think we get to know about the executive compensation. Yeah. See,
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: this is what we usually see. It doesn't say who
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: or what. It doesn't tell anything. We can find out
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: who the recipient is, and it gives the name of
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: the company where the recipient is and so on. The
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: location usually a performance, which is South Africa, right, And
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: there's other details we can find out. For the most part,
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: they're not really relevant to us. But you y'all who
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: live in the United States, you paid for this. You
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: know when you when you go get your paycheck cashed
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: and a third of it is already gone. The government
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: has chomped out a third of your paycheck. Every every
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: time that you get paid, part of that money was
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: sent to this organization to push circumcision on South African
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: men and boys. I hate this so much.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, god damn, I want my money back.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go doge. Yeah that five dollars is starting
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: to look like it's it's it's not enough.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, seriously, all right, that's the tip of the iceberg.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: Opened this already. Yeah, no, it really is. And like
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: that was the top one, right, that's Right to Care,
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: But there's there's several other like you see it again
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: here there's Right to Care and it it'll be it's
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: peppered through here. Some of these organizations are repeated Beyond
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: Logistics Limited. There's a whole shipload of contracts that they had.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: So let's see if I can find the most expensive one,
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: because it's it's it goes from a most expensive to
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: the least expensive here, so we'll see where our first
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: instance of Beyond Logistics Limited here is. And if I
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: remember right, it's another one of oh, we're buying medical
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: supplies to do you know, genital cutting in some foreign country,
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: and it's for for to help prevent AIDS. So this
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: was again USAIDS. Didn't prevent them, did it? For Beyond
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: Logistics Limited? And in this particular instance, again we're in Uganda, Campala, Uganda,
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: and it's two hundred thousand, two hundred and forty nine
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: hundred ninety four, so almost two hundred and fifty thousand,
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: just a dollar short cup couple dollars short. Where is
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: our purpose did I pass it. Yeah, it's very small
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: BPA call Order forty two for the procurement of Voluntary
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: male circumcision Commodities. So again, I don't know if we
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: get to see in this one or not. We don't
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: get to know how much is administrative overhead, but I
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: would bet quite a bit because that's an awful lot
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: for supplies, especially since you know there's another organization that
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: is also getting money specifically for that purpose, that that's
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: getting millions for that purpose. So why are we also
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: paying this organization in the same country doing the same
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: thing this much for medical and surgical instruments, equipment and
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: supplies for just circumcision, not not for anything else. This
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: is specific to circumcision. And as you can see, they
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: have contract after contract after contract, Like.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 5: Is that like in different areas or is that is
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 5: it all Uganda?
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: It might it's probably different areas. We can open a
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: couple of these. In fact, let's see if we can
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: open their page. So let's look at the second and
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: the number two expenditure here and yeah, the cryptic description
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: A lot of stuff on these, Uh, it's coded and
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: I think I think Baka Zoo has it right. A
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: lot of it is is coded because it keeps them
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: from having to give giveaway that this is what we're
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: actually doing. Yeah, and so it's a BPA call order
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: number fifty three Voluntary Male Medical Mail Circumcision VMMC Commodities
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: in Uganda, Ugandah.
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I just caught that because the last one we
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 5: looked at, I think was twenty seventeen yep.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: And they have they've had this, They've been doing this
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: annually for decades. So we look at the organization itself
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: see if that has loaded up yet, that's taken its time.
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: I do have a lot of tabs open, and I
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: did earlier have a lot of tabs open, so that
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: might be part of the problem. I always have too
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: many tabs open. This one is probably also in Uganda
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: as it comes up and beyond logistics yep Caampala, Uganda
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: and again pretty close to two hundred and fifty thousand
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: for procurement of Voluntary male medical Circumcision Medical male Circumcision
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: and Instrumentation and blah blah blah, same place of performance, Uganda.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: And this was in two ends in twenty twenty four,
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: so they did a couple of years at once there
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: and It's interesting they call it voluntary because I would
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: say it's probably scammed. They scam these guys into thinking
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: that they need to do this. And I wonder how many,
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: Like I wonder how many of those foreskins they're actually selling,
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 1: because I know when they do it to infants, that's
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 1: being sold on the metal market and on the cosmetic market.
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 1: So I don't know, neo foreskin fiber blasts bring in
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 1: quite a bit of money. I don't know if adult
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 1: foreskin has the same plasticity to it, but neonatal foreskin
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 1: fiber blasts can be used to grow more skin, yeah,
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 1: and they can be used for hair restoration. They get
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: used in makeup that that is intended to get rid
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 1: of wrinkles and stuff like that. And I mean it's
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 1: they are really yes, they are shocked poor by Kazu.
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 1: They are absolutely making face cream with it. In fact,
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 1: Oprah Winfrey used to promote a whole line of makeup
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 1: on her show that had neonatal foreskin fiber blasts in it. Yeah.
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, this is this is big money,
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 1: big big money. And like I said, I don't know,
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know. If let's look it up, let's see yep.
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 1: Adult foreskin fibroblasts are cells derived from the dermis of
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 1: adult skin. They are used in a variety of research
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 1: and medical applications, including tissue engineering, regenerative medicine, and drug screening.
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 1: Drug screening. Really, oh my god, So when you buy
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 1: a drug test to to to use to see if
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 1: your teenager has been smoking pot, that could have had
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 1: foreskin cells used in its production.
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 5: Okay, and oh I can't imagine why, like what what
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 5: function it has?
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 1: But good god? Yeah for skin fire.
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 2: If you stop these terrorists from smoking weed, they will
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 2: definitely all that problems will be solved of a night. Yeah, definitely, yeah, definitely, yeah, yeah, totally.
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 1: This is where this site drives me us right beyond
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 1: Logistics limited. We just saw two contracts. We actually saw
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 1: a couple contracts. They're getting about two hundred and fifty
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 1: k a year to promote circumcision in Uganda. So what
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 1: does it say here total awarded amount zero dollars from transactions.
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 1: We know that's not true because they're doing about two
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty k a year right and here it
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 1: has transactions over time. So this is not the only
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 1: thing they're doing because in twenty twenty three, they got
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 1: four point six million, twenty twenty two they got four
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 1: point two million, and they didn't get that much so
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 1: far in twenty twenty four. But we we may not
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 1: have all that information yet. But that's just this. This
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 1: is one of the variety of names that this Beyond
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 1: Logistics Limited has a set. There's there's the parent and
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 1: the child recipient and they both have the same name.
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 1: We've seen that a lot too, so it's it's uh,
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 1: it's a corporate entity. And again here's more awards here.
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 1: Quite a bit going on there, but it doesn't give
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 1: us as much information. It's an LLC. Huh, doesn't give
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 1: us as much information as some of the different Let's
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 1: try all for school years and see what we get
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 1: here some of the different companies that we've looked at
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 1: or recipients that we've looked at. Oh, there we go
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 1: one hundred thirteen point three million and in awards over
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 1: time and yes, seventy eactions seventy eight transactions, which we
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 1: could look at the awards to this recipient on another
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 1: page here, but you can see it doesn't give the oh,
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 1: it's given the top five. That's partly why let's look
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 1: at transactions over time overview. All right, some pages that
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 1: we've looked at have told us more about like where
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 1: the organization operated or how many years and stuff like that,
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 1: but this one we don't get that information. But we
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 1: can look at the different transactions. I'm going to close
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 1: that tab because we're done with it. Oh, we don't
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 1: get to see that, all right, So we'll reopen that
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 1: tab and we'll try this again. Maybe we'll just go
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 1: directly there because this obviously isn't going to give that information.
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 1: We could do the same thing with Right to Care actually,
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 1: because they seem to have gotten several Yeah, they've had
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 1: twenty seven point nine million from forty two transactions, a
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 1: bunch of different awards. Right, So let's see if we
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 1: just click on it directly, if that'll take us. Hey,
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: so we know there was forty two awards that it
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 1: should be taking us to here. Yep, And there they
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 1: are four four results that we get to see, mostly
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 1: from USAID eight hundred seventy one point forty two million,
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 1: it says, and then the DHS one hundred and seventeen
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 1: point one three million different amounts over different times. Going here,
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 1: we have clear back to two thousand and seven gathering
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 1: or data. Oh, it's gonna tell us where it was spent. Well,
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 1: it wasn't spent in the United States, so huh hang on,
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 1: let me see if I can increase the size of this.
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 1: It wasn't spent in the United States. But uh does it?
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 1: Let me, yes, it does. Let me zoom in here
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 1: a little bit on the Gulf of America. Uh. But yeah,
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 1: we're we're definitely in the wrong place for it to
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 1: Let's see if it'll if we can go will it
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 1: tell us Nope, Nope, it's not gonna tell us. That's okay.
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 1: It didn't. It didn't spend it anywhere, right, It just
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 1: spent the money. The organization just spent the money. But
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 1: we know from having looked already that you know it
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 1: was where it was spent. So there's four contracts for
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 1: these uh these multiple awards. There's nine grants, and then
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 1: there's this one. I don't know what IDV stands for,
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 1: but yet another contract. So and then Medical Access Uganda Limited.
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 1: You see, we have we're back to write take care again.
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 1: That's not what I'm looking for. M Beyond Logistics Limited.
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 1: Did it give us the transactions view awards to this recipient.
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 1: Did it give us the awards? I mean I clicked
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 1: on it and it's been loading all this time, and
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 1: it didn't give us anything. Let's see, let's see if
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 1: it'll open it up this time. The site is a
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 1: bit dysfunctional. There we go. So, yeah, sixty one contracts
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 1: for Beyond Logistics Limited and one other contract here. So
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know if all sixty one because I don't
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 1: know if that's sixty one years, but sixty one results
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 1: all from the Agency for International Development. So from the ages,
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 1: every single stink in one of them. And yeah, there's
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 1: different years going back twenty twenty three, twenty eighteen, twenty
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty did I see twenty nineteen twenty four.
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 1: There's multiple payments per year. Yeah, yep, for different things.
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 1: So when you see these organizations making this money to
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 1: go and do things like promoting circumcision against men in
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 1: other countries, a lot of it is disguised as smaller payments.
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 1: I say smaller. We're talking still about millions of dollars
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 1: here we go. The smallest one is twenty seven twenty
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 1: seven thousand, eight hundred and seventy and the biggest here
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 1: at the top is probably the first one we looked at. Nope,
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 1: two hundred and forty ninety four, So you know, just
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 1: a variety of different payments being made. Although how much
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 1: is the ID one zero? So they have a payment,
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 1: but we don't get to know how much. It was
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 1: blankt purchase agreement, so we don't necessarily know how much
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 1: because that just basically means, yes, we're promising that we're
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 1: going to spend money with you. Yeah, it doesn't say
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 1: how much. Can you imagine that's like a blank check?
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm for the procurement of pharmaceutical supplies. Oh my god.
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 1: Limiting competition to local entities. I wonder if that means
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 1: what it looks like. It means limiting competition to local entities.
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 1: Are they actually keeping other companies from operating in there?
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 1: That's what it sounds like. That's what it sounds like.
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 1: And this is US AIDS twenty seventeen to twenty twenty four. Okay, bucks,
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 1: I like you. They probably hired Salad Fingers as head nurse.
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 1: There's a name I haven't heard in a while. I'm like,
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have that mental image now. Jeez. Oh fuck.
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 1: But yeah, this is what we're dealing with, right, And
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 1: this is when we go back to federal awards. It's
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 1: all these awards to beyond logistics, but they're not the
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 1: only ones, right. Associate Association of Private Health Facilities in
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 1: Tanzania Academy for Educational Development Incorporated. That's a nebulous name.
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 1: Miscellaneous Foreign Awardees means you know, they gave to a
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 1: bunch of different people in foreign countries and didn't say who.
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 1: Uganda Health Marketing Group, several other miscellaneous Foreign Awardees IQVIA
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 1: Government Solutions Incorporated. Again, very nebulous. It sounds like Rosemont
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 1: Seneca or some other show corporation.
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 1: This was called the Seaman Group, a Seaman Corp corporation.
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 1: Cardinal Health, University of California, Los Angeles. We can look
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 1: at that one. You can get so that's not loaded yet,
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 1: that's going to take a minute. Marathon Medical Corporation. I
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 1: don't think that's the same as Marathon Oil. I hope not. Anyway,
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 1: kind of suck. And then then we have uniforms. This
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 1: is uniform purchases right here, Best Medical Where Ltd. This
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 1: is if you search, if you try to search men's
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 1: men apostrophys you get, or women's with an apostrophys you
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 1: get a whole bunch of these uniform purchases for like
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 1: military or for prison uniforms. Yeah, so it's it's there's
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that it can be difficult to
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 1: actually find. There's a lot of awards that went to
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 1: women's organizations, but there's sandwiched in among all these purchases
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 1: of uniforms and shit. So Cardinal Health has gotten a bunch.
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 1: I'll bet that's uniforms too. Medical marketing in Corporation Air Incorporated. Yeah,
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 1: there's just a bunch of these companies and like I said,
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 1: six and thirteen contracts to promote circumcision around the world. Unbelievable. Yeah, yeah,
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 1: I'll bet Cardinal Health is medical supplies. I'll bet Owen's
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 1: minor distribution is probably medical supplies. A lot of these
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 1: are probably companies that sell medical supplies. This one Mountain
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 1: Peak Geology, that'll be a meta group that sends doctors.
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 1: So let's see if this opened up. Academy for Educational
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 1: Development Incorporated in Connecticut they are Oh no they're not.
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 1: They're in DC. It's Connecticut Avenue. I cat I hate
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 1: that we have an Ohio street here in Dayton. That's like,
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 1: we're already at Ohio. You don't need to name a
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 1: street after the state. Come on, the fuck. Of course
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 1: we also have a Miami street, which makes it in
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 1: a Miami valley, in the Miami Valley right now. One
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 1: hundred and forty five thousand, two hundred and ninety eight.
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 1: That's that's quite a bit there. To Botswana male circumcision,
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 1: that's all. It's a butts, what a male circumcision? My
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 1: brain hears that in a Coney invoice, but I can't
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 1: do a Cony invoice. But yeah, that's it. So they
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 1: spent spent one hundred and forty five thousand on Botswana
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 1: male circumcision. And I would wager that this is another
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 1: thing that's that gets sent annually. I'll bet if we
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 1: look at the academy, they probably have Yep, there's a
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 1: parent organization with the same name. It's known by thirteen
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 1: other names. Probably most of them are the same name
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 1: but with different endings. All right, These are totally not
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 1: shell corporations though, guys, Just so you know, it's not
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 1: the same thing. And so they have thirteen organizational names
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 1: in the system. But only one transaction and it is
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 1: what we just looked at. I'm assuming but it's one
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 1: a male circumcision. Huh yeah, this is the one, one transaction.
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty three contracts, nineteen contract idvs as
• 2:19:41
  Speaker 1: probably individuals, grants, one hundred and five grants all for this,
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 1: all to this company for various things. So what's their
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 1: biggest award. Their biggest award is twenty nine million dollars
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 1: for you have it goes back to the bottom to
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 1: they have the website set up so that the tab
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 1: doesn't have the scroll bar at the bottom. I have
• 2:20:16
  Speaker 1: to use the scroll bar at the bottom of the
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 1: I guess window in the website and then scroll back up.
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 1: This is very dysfunctional. It's obviously designed by somebody who
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 1: works in government. So it's there's a chance this could
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 1: be something benevolent. There's a chance it could be not circumcision.
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 1: Possibly maybe twenty nine million dollars. Maybe it's you know,
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know, childhood cancer or some thing currying childhood.
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 1: You know, it's US AIDS twenty nine million dollars for
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 1: trans Sahara counter terrorism titled Peace Throughout through Development. We
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 1: we looked at peace through development in another another organizations page,
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 1: and it basically turned out to be taking local young
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 1: men and teaching them to confront violence around them. So yeah,
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 1: so disruptors. Basically they're training disruptors, local disruptors. So they're
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 1: they're basically taking local young men and making them themselves
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 1: at risk. Yeah, and this has been divided into multiple
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 1: little awards, so that's their biggest award. And that's again
• 2:22:21
  Speaker 1: we have an organization in which the things like the
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 1: promotion of circumcision are sort of couched in between these
• 2:22:31
  Speaker 1: other initiatives that some people might consider valid or benevolent,
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 1: whereas promoting circumcision in foreign countries really isn't. I don't
• 2:22:46
  Speaker 1: necessarily think we should be going and interfering in the
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 1: relationships between citizens in foreign countries either, even when those
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 1: relationships are involved game violence. I think that if we
• 2:22:59
  Speaker 1: do anything, we should be sharing what information we have
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 1: and assisting them in planning initiatives that will work in
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 1: their nations, instead of you know, sending people over to
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 1: basically teach a warped form even more warped than romantic chivalry,
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 1: a warped form of chivalry. So this one, I think
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 1: is Health and Human Services. This is not USAIDS because
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 1: it's got I think that's what the AHHS at the
• 2:23:36
  Speaker 1: beginning stands for. So that might be healthcare, it might
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 1: be might even be in the United States. But this
• 2:23:45
  Speaker 1: is the second biggest, and we'll look at it and
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 1: then we're probably gonna call it a night. Yeah, twenty
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 1: three point seven million. I don't even know what this is.
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 1: Oh god. So it says d HS Communications Support Task Order.
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 1: This is from the Department of Health and Human Services, right,
• 2:24:12
  Speaker 1: So what the hell is that? Well, the product or
• 2:24:16
  Speaker 1: service code says market research slash public Opinion. So the
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 1: same company that they're using to promote circumcision in Africa,
• 2:24:30
  Speaker 1: they're they're also using to do market research for the
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 1: welfare Department. So like, guys, that's where your money is going,
• 2:24:40
  Speaker 1: and that's what they're they're sort of couching it in
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 1: between stuff like that. It doesn't even say what the
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 1: market research is on, so we all know they could
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 1: be doing market research on anything from uh, how do
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 1: we how do we stop people from relying on food
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 1: stamps their entire lives? To how do we get more
• 2:25:01
  Speaker 1: women knocked up? Or how do we promote more circumcision.
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, just crazy, you know. I Like, we've seen
• 2:25:09
  Speaker 1: everything from funding programs to impose voluntary UH vas ectomy
• 2:25:24
  Speaker 1: in foreign countries and again that's the United States targeting
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 1: countries full of brown people with sterilization programs, which we
• 2:25:35
  Speaker 1: looked at last week, to We're going to prevent gang
• 2:25:39
  Speaker 1: violence in the Bronx by a post Oh no, it
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 1: was gender gender based harassment street harassment in the Bronx
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 1: by posting anti street harassment high coup all over the
• 2:25:51
  Speaker 1: community on posters and post it notes and stuff. Right,
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 1: this is just in and you guys are paying for this,
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 1: every single one of you that pays taxes, which is
• 2:26:03
  Speaker 1: mostly the men. You're paying for this shit every time
• 2:26:06
  Speaker 1: you get a paycheck and you see that a third
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 1: of it has been confiscated by the US government. That's
• 2:26:14
  Speaker 1: where it's going. So we're not going to get into
• 2:26:23
  Speaker 1: the next subject, but the next The other keyword that
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 1: I got into was UH planned parenthood. So that's where
• 2:26:35
  Speaker 1: we may do a little more looking into before we
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 1: go to planned parenthood. Into this program which we mentioned
• 2:26:45
  Speaker 1: last week, age targeting and scale up a voluntary medical
• 2:26:51
  Speaker 1: mail circumcision and Mozambique which they're they're literally trying to
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 1: increase mail circuit decision coverage to eighty percent among young
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 1: males from age ten to forty nine. They're calling it voluntary,
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 1: and they're calling it voluntary. Right, So that might be
• 2:27:13
  Speaker 1: where we start next week, but we will eventually get
• 2:27:18
  Speaker 1: to plan parenthood because Planned Parenthood actually brought up results too,
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 1: so because of course they did. Yep, let's think we
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 1: have any other commentary here that I need to read off. Yeah, yeah,
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 1: tonight's show is pretty rage inducing. Right. The other thing
• 2:27:46
  Speaker 1: that I may get into next week before we get
• 2:27:49
  Speaker 1: into planned Parenthood, because I really want to hammer home
• 2:27:52
  Speaker 1: this thing of we're shipping circumcision overseas. Understand that in
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 1: South Africa there are methods of circumcision that are worse
• 2:28:07
  Speaker 1: than anything that is done to women. It just male
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 1: genital mutilation goes beyond even the the the type of
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 1: female genital mutilation that involves sewing the vagina shot. Mostly
• 2:28:31
  Speaker 1: it's there's some things that are I'm not sure I
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 1: can show them on YouTube. I'll have to really consider
• 2:28:36
  Speaker 1: what I can can and can't say. For instance, about subincision, Yeah,
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 1: that's that's just an unbelievable. I don't know who thought
• 2:28:45
  Speaker 1: that was a good idea first, or why people adopted
• 2:28:50
  Speaker 1: it instead of putting that individual in a padded room
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 1: for the rest of their lives. But in any case, Yeah,
• 2:28:59
  Speaker 1: so they're they're promoting circumcision in an area where in
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 1: some places very brutal things are are normalized, and they're
• 2:29:11
  Speaker 1: doing it to children, and they're calling it voluntary disgusting. Ye.
• 2:29:20
  Speaker 1: So yeah, with that, Uh, we'll get out of the
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 1: rage inducing this. This stuff is just yeah, And and
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 1: we may get in next week into I may look
• 2:29:37
  Speaker 1: up some actual material because I there's it's coming up
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 1: pretty quick in a in a quick search. Tonight we
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 1: may talk a little bit. Yeah, Richard Beer, that's a
• 2:29:53
  Speaker 1: good description for it. I'm not going to read that
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 1: out loud, but that's about right. But but what they
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 1: do with foreskin after they remove it. So with that,
• 2:30:07
  Speaker 1: I will thank everybody for going through the books with
• 2:30:11
  Speaker 1: me again and the the interesting commentary. And I know
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 1: this is kind of a touchy subject, so it's kind
• 2:30:19
  Speaker 1: of hard to talk about some of this stuff without
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 1: getting ourselves in trouble because there's some information that it's
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 1: inconvenient for the establishment if you know it so but
• 2:30:35
  Speaker 1: but you know it now anyway, tough shit establishment, you
• 2:30:40
  Speaker 1: come at me. So called patriarchy. They've been doing that
• 2:30:44
  Speaker 1: all my life. So but it's not a patriarchy. It's
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 1: it's feminism. Yeah, and thanks to you guys for talking
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 1: this out with me, and thanks to everybody who works
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 1: in the background and to make HBr talk happen.
• 2:30:59
  Speaker 2: Good night. You are they