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Vikings Pre-Draft Press Conference and Several Mock Draft Scenarios | TSH Ep. 135 · The Skol Hop

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  Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Vikings fans, welcome in to another episode
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  Speaker 1: of The School Hop.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Evan, now I'm Austin.
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  Speaker 1: We'res just a couple of dudes from Iowa. We like
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  Speaker 1: drinking beer and talking about the Viking.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we do. And after a few quiet weeks, we
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  Speaker 2: actually had some Vikings news to talk about today.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, fun stuff. A voluntary offseason workouts started today. There
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  Speaker 1: are a few key press conferences, pretty exciting. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We talked about all that, and we also looked ahead
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  Speaker 2: to this week's NFL Draft, which is coming up quick.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think for the first time ever, each
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  Speaker 1: of us did our own mock drafts. So we did
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  Speaker 1: those separately and then we did a cumulative mock draft
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  Speaker 1: between the two of us. It was a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a blast. So we'd love to know
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  Speaker 2: what your guys' thoughts are on each of our mock drafts.
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  Speaker 1: All right, ev, what are we drinking tonight? Well, this
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  Speaker 1: might be the first time we've ever had a non
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  Speaker 1: beer on the episode.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, were you looking at that earlier trying
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  Speaker 2: to figure out if we've ever had a non beer?
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  Speaker 1: I was, yeah, and I was also trying to figure
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  Speaker 1: out if this is actually a beer or not. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know for sure, but this caught my eye when
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  Speaker 1: I was at the grocery store today. We'll just tell
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  Speaker 1: you what it is and you can make up your mind,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe the folks that made it could tell us
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more about it too. This is adventurous,
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  Speaker 1: adventurous brewings purade. And on the can it says strawberry
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  Speaker 1: marshmallow and banana smoothie seltzer. So not a beer. Also
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  Speaker 1: seven percent, so it's a little hafty, not terrible, but
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  Speaker 1: a little hefty in the alcohol.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's up there on the scale of
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  Speaker 2: where you can still have a couple. But like now
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  Speaker 2: you're entering territory of like maybe maybe keep in mind
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  Speaker 2: how money you're having and oh my gosh, how early
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  Speaker 2: you have to wake up.
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  Speaker 1: The little bit that I just got on my thumb
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  Speaker 1: when I opened the can was amazing, Evan.
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  Speaker 2: This is thick.
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  Speaker 1: It is thick. It is purade. Oh, there's like sediment at.
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  Speaker 2: The Maybe we should have, you know, turned the can
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  Speaker 2: upside down or something a little bit. There's there's still
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  Speaker 2: stuff in the bottom, Like all right, it probably says
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  Speaker 2: on the can. I'll double check to like so lightly
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  Speaker 2: agitate the can a little bit. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: You told me before we started filming that bananas can
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  Speaker 1: have a negative effect on you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they can.
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  Speaker 1: They can trigger some headaches. I just I want to
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  Speaker 1: apologize in advance.
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  Speaker 2: I think this will be okay because they're in a
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  Speaker 2: fermented beer, seltzer or whatever you want to call it. Man,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if this is going to come across
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  Speaker 2: on camera.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it's it's it's smoothie like it's a smoothie seltzer.
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  Speaker 1: These are kind of all the raids right now, at
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  Speaker 1: least I've seen them out there before. But I would
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  Speaker 1: like to say I eat probably two or three bananas
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  Speaker 1: a day. I love bananas.
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  Speaker 2: Gosh, okay, you're not You're not getting muscle cramps for sure. Nope.
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  Speaker 1: And uh I just I love strawberry banana.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good flavor.
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  Speaker 1: It's one of my favorites that I go to, Like,
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  Speaker 1: give me a strawberry banana shake at our favorite ice
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  Speaker 1: cream place, or give me a like I get the
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  Speaker 1: strawberry banana. Nay, get juice.
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  Speaker 2: Way there you go.
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  Speaker 1: At the gas station that's kind of like one of
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  Speaker 1: my go to drinks to get out of the cooler
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  Speaker 1: at the gas station. So this beer popped out of me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited to try it. Let's do it. Skull skull
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  Speaker 1: for better or for worse for you.
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  Speaker 2: I like that a lot.
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  Speaker 1: It's different.
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  Speaker 2: It is thick. It's thick. Yes, it there's no carbonation whatsoever.
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  Speaker 2: When I first opened my can, I was kind of concerned, like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't hear I didn't. Yeah, I didn't hear a
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  Speaker 2: snap or anything. But I think that's on purpose. If
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  Speaker 2: this were a wine, we'd be saying that it has
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  Speaker 2: legs because if you can't again, I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: you can tell on camera, there's a you can tell
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  Speaker 2: where the liquid has been on the side of my cup. Here,
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  Speaker 2: it is thick, but my goodness, it is a strawberry
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  Speaker 2: banana smoothie.
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  Speaker 1: I will say that alcohol is very present. It's got
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  Speaker 1: a bite.
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  Speaker 2: It's almost like a like a fruity cocktail type thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't know. I'm not turned off by
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  Speaker 1: it necessarily, but it's just I guess I'm so used
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  Speaker 1: to drinking like a strawberry banana smoothie or something that, like,
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  Speaker 1: it's not used to having alcohol. I don't just take
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  Speaker 1: a shot of vodka or something and put it in there.
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  Speaker 2: But well, it kind of reminds me. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 2: no secret I like going to All Inclusives. It kind
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  Speaker 2: of reminds me a little bit of those fruity, like
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  Speaker 2: tropical beverages that you get that absolutely, I mean, if
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  Speaker 2: you're into that can have an alcoholic vibe to it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And I really like this a lot. I would think
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  Speaker 2: if I'm hankering for a fruity cocktail type thing, I'd
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  Speaker 2: reach for one of these. I don't know, I feel
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  Speaker 2: like if you mix this with with ice and blended
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  Speaker 2: it and made it like an actual like ice cold,
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  Speaker 2: chunky smoothie, you could you could totally have something there.
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  Speaker 2: I like it a lot adventurous. This is a very
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  Speaker 2: adventurous beverage. And I'm I'm glad you got it. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, let's enjoy and let's talk about the vikings.
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  Speaker 1: We're t minus like three days until the draft. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so we're getting up there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully listener, you are listening to this prior to
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  Speaker 2: the April twenty third NFL Draft. We are recording this
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  Speaker 2: on the evening of Monday, the twentieth, So yeah, you've
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  Speaker 2: definitely got time. This will probably come out like you
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  Speaker 2: do a good job of getting these out pretty early
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  Speaker 2: on Tuesdays, So yeah, you've got some time to get
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  Speaker 2: our last minute draft thoughts and opinions and hopes and
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  Speaker 2: dreams and all that kind of stuff out before the
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  Speaker 2: actual draft happens. I usually listen to our episodes because I'm,
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  Speaker 2: you know, crazy like that and egotistical. I think that's
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  Speaker 2: the word I'm looking for. I listened to my own podcast,
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  Speaker 2: so maybe I'll wait until after the draft to listen
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  Speaker 2: back to this episode so that I can be like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: Evan said something super smart and I was super dumb there,
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  Speaker 2: or just like, oh, I can't believe how right we were,
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  Speaker 2: how wrong we were. I'm excited to talk about all this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, should be good. I will say I'm probably less
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  Speaker 1: studied than you are in all of this, and I
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  Speaker 1: think we both would admit that college football is just
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  Speaker 1: not at the top of our list in terms of
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  Speaker 1: things we'll watch it. We enjoy having a beer and
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  Speaker 1: watching a game.
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  Speaker 2: But it's a good product.
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  Speaker 1: It's just not something we follow as closely as we
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  Speaker 1: follow other things like the Vikings.
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  Speaker 2: And I've said before I'm a pretty big Hawkeye fan,
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  Speaker 2: but also like, I'll be upset if the Hawkeyes lose
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  Speaker 2: a game, but it's not going to ruin my weekend,
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  Speaker 2: whereas like a Vikings loss, it affects me more than
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  Speaker 2: it should as a thirty five year old man. So
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  Speaker 2: I do like college football, but again it's not something
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  Speaker 2: I'm as invested in as the NFL or the Vikings
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  Speaker 2: or anything. So that leads us to not being super
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  Speaker 2: knowledgeable on a lot of the even big name draft
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  Speaker 2: picks that are coming in. Usually you and I we
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  Speaker 2: we pick up We watch enough ESPN and scroll enough
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  Speaker 2: Twitter that we pick up on the big names, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the Fernando Mendoza and the love Yeah. And then I
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  Speaker 2: notice for me, every year I pick up on the
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  Speaker 2: big names, and then also the one or two or
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  Speaker 2: three or four names that people try to connect the
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  Speaker 2: Vikings to every year. This year it seems to be
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  Speaker 2: Dylan Thieneman, and it's like every mock draft has him
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  Speaker 2: so much so that I didn't start seeing other names
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  Speaker 2: mocked to the Vikings until the last few days. And
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  Speaker 2: it seems like a trend that's like, man, everybody says,
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  Speaker 2: Dylan thim into the Vikings. Let's try something different, you know, so.
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  Speaker 1: Or or Kenyan Sadek. I think that's the other big.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, both Oregon guys. But yeah, this year seems
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  Speaker 2: like the Vikings are pegged into one or two different names,
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  Speaker 2: and we you know, kind of tipping the pulling back
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  Speaker 2: the curtain a little bit. You and I both did
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  Speaker 2: a mock draft each prior to recording here, which we'll
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  Speaker 2: we'll go over a little bit later, and I think
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna do a like on show mock draft just
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  Speaker 2: to kind of see how it plays out. And the
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  Speaker 2: aneman's name may or may not come up in those
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  Speaker 2: mock drafts, but it is interesting to kind of get
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  Speaker 2: in those simulators and see, like, oh, this is interesting
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  Speaker 2: to see how this falls. So we'll get into that
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  Speaker 2: a little bit later, but before we do, Evan, today
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  Speaker 2: was like the first official day of the Vikings off
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  Speaker 2: season programs, So I don't know if they've actually like
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  Speaker 2: gotten on the practice field today or if it was
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  Speaker 2: more like, hey, come in, check in. I guess I
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  Speaker 2: didn't see any Twitter.
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  Speaker 1: I saw a few like social media like players walking
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  Speaker 1: into the facility kind of thing, reporting for duty, back
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  Speaker 1: at it again, stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and importantly what's happening right now for the Vikings
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  Speaker 2: and other teams that have started their programs, this is
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  Speaker 2: the part where it's voluntary. Usually ESPN and stuff like
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  Speaker 2: to make a big deal out of some of the
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  Speaker 2: names that don't come to their team's voluntary workout programs,
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  Speaker 2: But for me, it's really not a big deal. There's
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  Speaker 2: some names sometimes that I would think, Oh, why isn't
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  Speaker 2: QB one at the program, or why isn't you know,
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  Speaker 2: this big name free agent that the team just signed
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  Speaker 2: that needs to be involved with the team at the program,
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: stuff like that. But like a name will end up
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: talking about is Jonathan Grenard. He's been talked about in
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: trade rumors since the season ended. Depending on what you
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: read and believe, the Vikings are trying to get rid
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  Speaker 2: of him or they're trying to keep him at all costs.
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  Speaker 2: It seems like he wasn't at at least the first
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  Speaker 2: day of these voluntary workouts. Some people or blown that
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  Speaker 2: way out of proportion. Maybe you are, I guess you
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  Speaker 2: and I haven't talked about that name, But for me,
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  Speaker 2: that's that's not much of a big deal. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think he has any like workout bonus tied into his
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  Speaker 2: contract that he's missing out on money. I trust him
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  Speaker 2: to be in shape and ready to go, assuming he
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  Speaker 2: is a Viking this year. I would have been concerned
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  Speaker 2: had like Justin Jefferson not showed up, just because he
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  Speaker 2: seems to be a true captain for the team, a
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  Speaker 2: face of the franchise, and as we saw on a
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  Speaker 2: press conference today, Justin Jefferson did show up. He was
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  Speaker 2: there today, which is that's that's encouraging. But had he not,
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  Speaker 2: I say I would have been concerned, had he not
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  Speaker 2: showed up, I would have kind of looked into a
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  Speaker 2: little bit, but like not ultimately been too concerned.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think with a player like him, it could
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  Speaker 1: have been as simple as and they're like, well, I
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  Speaker 1: had something else going on. I had a family commitment.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, like it's it's totally voluntary, right, Like
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  Speaker 1: of course, he's the type of the type of guy
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  Speaker 1: that's gonna do whatever he can to be there and
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  Speaker 1: you know, put the team for That's that's why we
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  Speaker 1: appreciate about him. I've seen a few things about him,
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  Speaker 1: just like man he's just so mature and he's so
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  Speaker 1: he's just a consummate pro, you know. And I hope
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  Speaker 1: that we continue to get that version of Justin Jefferson.
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  Speaker 1: I hope that relationship doesn't sour. Ooh, I like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah it didn't really.
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  Speaker 1: Don't you feel the weight of the stuff though.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking about our smoothie cants here and I'm
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  Speaker 2: trying to get the last little bit out of my can.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I'll just hold it like this and let it
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  Speaker 1: slowly drip in. But yeah, there's definitely still like sediment at.
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  Speaker 2: The most of what was in mine. But yeah, talking
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  Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson again, it's it's encouraging to see the face
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  Speaker 2: of your franchise show up for these voluntary workouts. I
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: don't know enough about his contract, or really any any
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: player's contract to know who specifically has money tied into
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  Speaker 2: showing up for these, because I know, like when you
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: hear a player has like, oh, this portion of their
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  Speaker 2: contract is workout bonuses, it's this time of year that
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  Speaker 2: they're talking about like, hey, it's technically voluntary, but you
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  Speaker 2: get a bonus in your contract if you do show
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  Speaker 2: up for this. And I don't know that Justin Jefferson
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  Speaker 2: does or does not have that, but either way, he's
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  Speaker 2: supposed to be the north Star, you know, the true
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  Speaker 2: leader of this team. And anytime you can say the
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: true leader of your team shows up when they don't
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  Speaker 2: necessarily have to, that's that's always a good thing. Yeah, And.
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  Speaker 1: I think it just says a lot about who he is.
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  Speaker 1: I've already said it, but it's worth repeating. And you
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  Speaker 1: just hope that at the end of the day, ownership
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: and management and coaching they just treat him right, and
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: when it's time for him to go, they do him
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  Speaker 1: right by all that.
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  Speaker 2: Right, I don't think that time will come I retire.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that time's coming either. And I hope
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  Speaker 1: he's a Viking for life. It's so rare to see
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  Speaker 1: a guy stay with one team for his entire career anymore.
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  Speaker 1: But man, he's just been He's been so much fun
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  Speaker 1: to watch. It was interesting and you wrote this, and
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  Speaker 1: I watched a brief snippet of it. Jud z Algad,
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  Speaker 1: one of the reporters, was trying to pry some information
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  Speaker 1: out of Justin Jefferson in this press conference today, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure you know those reporters have to maybe just
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: sit around beforehand, like you're gonna do it, You're gonna
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  Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, Okay, I'll follow the sword, I'll do it.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, they're trying to get him to take
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  Speaker 1: the bait of who's going to be the QB one
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  Speaker 1: or who do you want to be QB one, or
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: just anything any little tidbit that those reporters can get
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  Speaker 1: their teeth into, and sounds like Justin Jefferson didn't bite
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  Speaker 1: really at all, kind of played it cool and kind
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: of seemed to be like, yeah, Kyler's here, that's great,
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  Speaker 1: but I've been working with JJ as well, and we
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  Speaker 1: want to see him succeed, and just again just kind
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: of what a professional does and kind of played both
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  Speaker 1: sides and didn't really give into one side or the other.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I do want a preference. I think that
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  Speaker 2: the question that Judzelgad asked was valid and it was
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  Speaker 2: it was worded in a way that was respectful, but
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  Speaker 2: still like we knew what you're trying to ask. Basically,
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  Speaker 2: he was saying to Justin, like because they had been
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  Speaker 2: talking about how Jefferson had throughout the off season been
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: working practicing with JJ McCarthy and kind of getting on
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: the field and practicing with them. Sounded like there were
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: multiple sessions, maybe at different locations. They've spent a little
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: bit of time together, which is encouraging, especially when you're
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: talking about Justin Jefferson doing that while still knowing, Hey,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: the team has signed Kyler Murray. Kind of makes me
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: think the team is being told like, hey, yeah, Kyler's here,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: JJ's here, Carson Wentz is here. Kind of get the
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: sense it's at least going to be a true competition.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: And to hear Justin Jefferson talk about, you know, how
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: that quarterback room is going to end up and how
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: he thinks it will. I think Justin Jefferson thinks like, oh,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: this could be something that could light a fire under JJ,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: and he's he's either going to, you know, take that
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: and run with it and improve or he's not going
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: to be playing. But anyways, the question that jed Zel
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: got asked to Justin Jefferson was like when do you
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: need to know? When do you want to know who
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: QB one is? And does it matter to you, like
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: do you want to know sooner rather than later? Based
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: on being able to prepare with that quarterback and is
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: it something like you want to know as soon as possible.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: I think it was a fair question. I think it
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: was a good question. Ultimately, he was asking the face
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: of the franchise if he has, you know, if Justin
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Jefferson has a preference on whether or not he wants
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: to know who QB one is sooner rather than later.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: And Jefferson, like you said kind of basic. He said, like,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, I want to work with all of them.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: You know, it really comes down to like getting to
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: know all of them so that when we're on the field, it's,
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: you know, second nature. He kind of deferred like that's
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: less of a wide receiver question and more of a
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: quarterback question and more of a KOC question, Like he
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: basically he took the good route, and I don't think
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: he Justin Jefferson was like eluding like I'm not going
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: to tell you, like, oh, don't ask me that. I
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: think he was genuinely answering, like I just I just
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: want to work well with whoever it is and I
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: don't need to know. He even said like we probably
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: won't know until after training camp, and he didn't seem
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: upset about that. So again, good question. But really good
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: answer too.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Another interesting one was KOC and he kind of hyped
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: up JJ like we've been doing. I just had this thought, though,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: I wonder what Koc as a head coach looks like
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: post Justin Jefferson, or like without Justin Jefferson. We've never
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: seen KOs without this megastar wide receiver, right, and now
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: we've seen we've seen Koc without the consistency at quarterback, right,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Like Kirk Cousins was the last true consistent quarterback that
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: the Vikings had and we've lived through.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: I would say Sam Darnold was probably Yeah, sorry, when
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: you're talking about a one secon, shouldn't have left that out.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but Kirk and Sam were the last true consistent quarterbacks,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: and other than them, it's been this carousel of quarterbacks
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: in and out. So we know what Koc looks like
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: as a head coach without that, and it's not great.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: But what about a wide receiver? What about this like
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: true top I mean we will sit here and say
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: he's the best in the league. Others would say, well,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: he's top three, and I would disagree. But I mean,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: for sure, whoever you talk to you, they're gonna say
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: he's a top three quarterback. So what does that future
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: look like? And I guess I'm kind of taking us
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: maybe away from the press conference and just thinking outside
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: of the box for a second.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: But I think it's less about, you know, having a
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: superstar wide receiver and more about having a superstar and
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: you know, someone who you can kind of candidly talk
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: with engauge and you know, Justin Jefferson has the locker
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: room as a player. So not that I've ever gotten
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: the sense that KOC has lost the locker room, but
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: I think KOs has the ability to kind of pull
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson and a few other guys, probably guys like
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, you'd think Harrison Smith, you know, definitely when
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: he was playing and hopefully continued playing. Some of those
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: guys would be almost like in Kos's inner circle, and
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: KOC could come and be like, hey, you're my superstars,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: but you're also in the locker room. How are things going?
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Kind of gauging the heartbeat again. I don't know if
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: they ever do this, but I think, yeah, Justin Jefferson
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: does seem to be a true captain. And maybe it's
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: just about having good captains of your team so that
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: your head coach can kind of go to those guys
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: almost as a buffer to the rest of the locker room.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Not that KOC neglects the rest of the locker room.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: And if you're not a captain, you're not talking to him.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: But I think it's just it's helpful to have that
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: hierarchy of like, hey, captains, what do I need to
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: do to be a better coach? Or hey, captains, take
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: care of your position groups or your teammates. And I
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: think guys like Justin Jefferson and Harrison Smith hopefully he
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: comes back, are true leaders of men. And I think
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Harrison Smith isn't super vocal, but he's definitely a leader
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: and true captain on the team. And I think every
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: good team needs not just one, but two or three
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: or four of those guys that can be true leaders help,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: you know, put themselves last to help the team go first.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Harrison Smith definitely embodies that for sure. Boy,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I hope that guy comes back again just for that element,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: not even for the production on the field, because I
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: think the production on the field is slowly waning.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would I would say last season for him,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: and we don't need to turn this into Harrison Smith hour.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: But I mean last season there was some kind of
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: injury or something to begin, but then the second half
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: he turned it on. He like the final third of
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: the season, he really like it was like watching classic
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: prime Harrison Smith again, which was so fun.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, before we get into the mock drafts,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Rob Razinski. Yeah, see, I mean should he stay or
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: should he go? I mean, we just played that song
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: in our heads.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: We don't really have a ton of a ton of
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: like they it was a quiet off season up until
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: the draft, not many free agents signings, not really any trades,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: but also that could have been by design too, Like
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: the Vikings. It's not like they're sitting there with one
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: hundred million dollars of cap space and they didn't sign
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: anybody like It's it's definitely a transition time for the Vikings.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: And so it's kind of hard to gauge how well
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Brazinski is doing because most of his moves are neglecting
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: to do so not neglecting, but not doing something, so
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: like it'd be different if we were saying, like, wow,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Brazinski's really trading all the picks and spending all the money,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: like he could totally have ruined a bunch of things,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Like we could be sitting here saying, like, why did
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: they give him the reins to this? He's messing everything up,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Whereas I think the worst thing we can say about
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: him right now is it's been a quiet off season
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: so far. I think the draft will be really fun
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: to watch. I think the team and Brazinski, but the
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: team as a whole, has recognized like the best way
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: to build your team is through the draft. Free agency
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: should be a good seasoning to the rest of your
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: roster at points where you may or may not need it.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: But the draft is the lifeblood of every good, solid team,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: and I think that's been mostly their focus. There may
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: have been opportunities to make moves or sign guys or
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: trade for or away guys, but they've kind of kept
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: it kept it safe, and I'm okay with that. I
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: think the core of this team is pretty good, so
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know. We'll see how the draft goes, and
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: we'll see what the team thinks of him after the draft.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I still think there's a chance Brazinski doesn't want to
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: be the GM. I think he's okay with being the
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: face and doing the duty when it needs to be done.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: But I think there's a chance he's like, hey, I've
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: done it. Now let's go find any so I can
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: go back to what I'm really passionate about, what I
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: really want to do, and that's, you know, being the
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: executive vice president of the team. So I think, no
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: matter what, this team will be in better hands, whether
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: he's the GM or not, within a month or two
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: whenever they do make that final decision. Interesting, well, I think,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: do you agree? Do you think he should get it?
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: I just haven't seen enough yet. And I think the
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: draft will tell us a lot. I think if he
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: has an A plus draft, and it's so hard to
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: know that when the draft is over because you just
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: don't know how these players will materialize. You know, I'm
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: going to do it. There's a moneyball quote that I
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: have to drop.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: They're sitting in some kids living room, the scouts are
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: and they're you know, I actually, no, it's not that.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: It's a I think what was it? Billy Bean was
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: arguing with one of his scouts. He said, I sat
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: in those living room with you as you're telling the parents,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: like when I know, I know with your kid, I know,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: and you don't you know, right, And that's kind of
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: where we're at with the draft, Like we just don't
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: know yet, and we won't know probably until at least
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: the twenty six twenty seven season is over, and even
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: then it might not be completely fully known if this
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: draft was good or not. You know, we're sitting here
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: still five years later talking about Quac's first draft four
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: years later.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: So which we to be clear, we knew pretty quick
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: that draft was garbage, and honestly though a week after
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: the draft, we didn't know it was going to be
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: as bad as it ended up being.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: But I guess that's the point I'm trying to make,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Like we could sit here a week from now and
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: be like, oh, that draft was amazing and then that
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: draft actually sucks. Yeah, But you know, we said the
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: same thing about JJ getting drafted, right, JJ McCarthy, That
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: is like, yeah, awesome quarterback of the future that hasn't
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: materialized yet.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: In no way we want it to. But I still
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: think the door is not slam shut on that.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: We're still holding out hope. But boy, when you're when
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: you basically red shirt your first year in the league
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: and then you come out and lay an egg like
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: he did, I do a bunch of dumb stuff like,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: you know, make yourself mean worthy basically the whole season
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: that that puts a damp around things when you are
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: a top ten quarterback, top ten overall pay.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot to be there's a
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: lot to be seen, and I don't know. I don't
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I don't really have enough intel to read into Rob Razinski.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Does he want to stay, does he want to go?
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I would say from my perspective as
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: a as a fan who doesn't really get into the
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: front office stuff too much other than when we talk
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: about it here, he seems to be doing a fine job.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I don't see any problem keeping him as the GM.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: But I understand that it's a business and if you're
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: not good at your job, that's why he got fired. Yeah,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: it wasn't good at his job, or at least not
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: in the way we needed him to be good for
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: this organization. So I think my sentiment with Roberzinsky is
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: pretty simple. It's his job until he loses it if
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: he wants it.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, I don't think this is such I
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: don't think this is a super hot take, but I
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: genuinely would not be surprised if the team, after the
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: draft sometime the next handful of weeks came out and
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: said like, Hey, we are going to roll with what
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: we have for now on an interim basis and then
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: fully evaluate and then maybe make any changes if need
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: be after the season. I think we could be looking
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: at a year of Roberzinski in an interim role. And
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: maybe because I don't know if they've actually ever said,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: he is the quote unquote interim GM. Anytime I I've heard,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I've heard it said. Well, it's been said, because that's
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: essentially what it is. But anytime I've heard the Vikings
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: or the organization in any way talk about or to Brazinski,
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: listeners go back and look at the Vikings YouTube channel.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Any There's been a handful of times Brazinski has like
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: talked to one of the team reporters or been in
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: a press conference, and each time they introduce him as
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: executive vice President Rob Brazinski, it's not interim GM. And
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: I'm going to pull this up right now, and it
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: really doesn't matter too much because he is the interim GM, regardless.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Of by function, maybe not by title, but.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what that's the function he's performing right now.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: But yeah, anytime he is talked about, see like in
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: this press conference video on YouTube the Vikings put out.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: To Day Today, Executive vice President of Football Operation.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they introduce him as the EVP. He's been. He's
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: a couple of times I've seen him with who's the reporter,
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: I forget her name, she's really good, I Dane Versini. No,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: the Vikings in house reporter, Ohum Tatum. Yet she's had
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: you know, one on one interview videos with him, a
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: couple of them, and I think every time she either
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: introduces him as just Rob or rober Zunski or she
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: says Vikings executive vice president. So I think the team
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: is okay with and probably he as well is okay
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: with like filling this role. And then maybe if he
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: gets it, you know, that's fine. But I think everybody's
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: kind of okay with seeing how far we can take
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: this temporary setup. And then I think, no matter what,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: this time next year there will be someone with the
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: official title of general manager for the Vikings, but I
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: think it could be until next May or I'm sorry,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: next January February time.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Well, you got a wonder too. If the Wolfs are
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: feeling the pressure a little bit for a few reasons.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Number one, they haven't They haven't been to the Super
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Bowl yet as owners, which Red McCombs didn't go to
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: the super Bowl when he was the owner. But it's
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: just it's been a long time. I mean it's been
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: before we were born that our favorite team was in
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: the super Bowl. So there's that pressure that's just inherent
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: with this organization. But then you have a different sports
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: organization in a different league who's under a ton of
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: pressure by the fans to sell the team. The pole
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Ads are are constantly under fire for hanging on to
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: the Twins and continuing to just seemingly mismanage the Twins.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: And I just don't even pay attention to the Twins anymore,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Like no, yeah, whatever. Like if I'm going to follow baseball,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I might kind of rally behind the Cubs because they
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: seem to have some momentum behind them. But like the Twins,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: if they win a couple of games, good for them.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: If I get a chance to go to a game,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I'm sure I'll get a few beers in some popcorn
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: and have some fun. Like it's not gonna become my obsession.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: So I wonder if I wonder if the the the
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Wolfs are feeling that pressure. Both of I haven't been
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: to the super Bowl since the seventies and this other
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: team in your town, they're being pressured to sell their team.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: These owners are like, it's kind of winter win or die.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Like I will say, those situations are a
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: little different. I think the Twins mostly are being pressured
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: to sell because they're not investing in the team. They're
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: actively I think what they won their first playoff series
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: since we were children a couple of years ago, and
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: their response to that was to cut payroll, and they've
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: cut payroll a couple of times since then, and it
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: seems like they're just doing everything they can to not
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: invest in the team. It's like they got public dollars
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: for their state so that they could compete, and then
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: they've done nothing but undercut the team at every chance
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: they get. Whereas on the flip side, I think the
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Vikings their ownership. All I've ever heard is that they
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: are willing to invest in the team, and anytime a
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: big name player comes up that it seems like the
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: GM or whoever is interested in signing rarely have we
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: ever heard a report like, ah, well, the Vikings wanted
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: to sign Kirk Cousins, but the ownership wouldn't go for
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: a guaranteed contract, which we just hear that. Hey, the
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Vikings are always top one, two or three in that
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: that Players Association poll of the best organizations to be in.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: They provide great facilities and they build great stadiums, and
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: we've only ever heard good things publicly, at least about
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: the Vikings ownership. As owners, I don't know personalize about them,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: but yeah, I think there is a major difference. If
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: I think Twins fans, which you can count me as
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: a Twins fan in the playoffs if they ever make
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: it there, but I think Twins fans are frustrated because
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: it feels like the team has no hope and the
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: owners aren't doing anything, whereas Vikings fans feels like, man,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: we're always almost there, and the owners are are doing
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: stuff like they do sign the players, they do build
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: the facilities and stuff like that. So there is a difference.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, eventually, you gotta you gotta win,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: and you gotta want to win. But I do think
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: the Wills do feel like owners that are interested in winning,
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: not just owning a franchise that.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: And I guess I'm just like I'm coming at it
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: from their perspective, Like they probably go to these you know,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: these fancy dinners and these banquets and these big things,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: these big events, and they you know, they glad hand
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of people, and you know, there's got to
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: be that like that just inherent pressure of being the
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: owners of the Vikings, Like when's it gonna happen? Like
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: people aren't gonna say that outright because people don't do that,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: or maybe they do. I don't know, maybe they're a
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: little more obvious than I would be, but like, I
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: don't know, there's got to be that pressure, and there's
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: got to be that, like, well, people are pressuring the
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: pole Ads to sell the Twins because they're not winning,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: and I get I understand there's some other dynamics at
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: play with that organization, and it's definitely ownership that are
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: responsible for that. And I'm not saying that the Wolfs
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: are responsible for that, but like, I mean, I would
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: never want to get to a point with this franchise
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: that the owners are under fire for stuff like that.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: And I think fortunately for us as fans, we don't
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: have owners like that. We've got owners that are committed
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: to doing whatever is best for the team, including but
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: not limited to finding the right GM, finding the right
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: head coach, and treating their players right like I would
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: venture to guess Justin Jefferson has those guys on speed
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: dial and he can call Mark or Ziggy whenever he
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: wants and vice versa, so like they're they're on a
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: you know, a simple phone call basis like, hey, what's gout, Well,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: how's it going?
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: You know so well? And to your point, I think
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: the simple act of actually going through with the firing
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: of Quasi right as his contract extension was about to
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: kick in is enough to show that the team wants
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: to win, and even if it's an expensive decision, if
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: it's one that they think is best for the team,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: they're gonna make it. And that should be refreshing because
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: we've seen teams and organizations where if you're a fan
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: of it, whatever sport it is, and your owner is
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: just if you've lost hope in your owners, like Twins
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: fans have, it's such a demoralizing feeling because you don't think, oh,
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: my team has a chance. I think it's Vikings fans
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: every year even now we think, hey, I mean, we
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: legitimately could have a chance this year. You know, it
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: always feels like that.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: And that's one of the most frustrating things about being
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: a Vikings fan, because then you have a season like
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: this and you're just like even, you know, even towards
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: the end of the season, we were still kind of
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: in it, and then we weren't. And but all that
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: could change. If we get a good draft, we get
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: some good players in this this franchise could really go
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: to that next level. So I think we I think
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: we talked draft. Yeah, I think we put we we
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: put on our Rob Brazinsky hat for a minute. I
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: want to I want to start.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, one more thing I want to say about Brazinski
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: and his press conference before we move on. It'll just
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: a couple of seconds. One thing that I thought was
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: really refreshing to hear from the guy who is driving
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: the draft boat, you know, for the for the Vikings
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: this year. Somebody asked him a question about like, how
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: does he think how does he take into account best
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: player available versus team need? And he had a really
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: good answer. I'm gonna butcher it so I'm just gonna
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: kind of describe it. He basically said, like, well, you'd
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: want a draft best player available every pick, every time,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: no matter what. But he's like, you also need to
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: base that off team need to and he specifically pointed
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: out the Bills with Josh Allen. He said, the Bills,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: no matter how their draft board looks, and no matter
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: if they completely one hundred percent agree with their draft
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: board and think it's true and true every player, every position,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: no matter what. If quarterback is their number one player
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: by far, and it gets to their pick, they're not
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: drafting a quarterback. Maybe they trade down, maybe they pick
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: the second best player on their board, but that's where
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: you because they're not drafting a quarterback because they have one,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: and they have a really good one, an MVP level
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: one mm hm. So you have to go team need
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: a little bit. And I think that's the right answer.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: You want to be in a position where, no matter what,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: whatever pick it is, if the best player left on
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: your board is any position, you go for it because
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: he's the best player, and that's how teams are the
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: best teams are built. But I'd say it's kind of
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: refreshing too for the Vikings this year that basically any
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: position is at play at any pick. I mean, I'd
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: be pretty pissed if the Vikings drafted a punter in
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: the first round, but like if they drafted one in
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: the sixth round, I wouldn't be mad. Like they there
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: are not too many one hundred filled positions on this
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: team so that they couldn't draft a first round pick
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: player at that position. And that's maybe a little sad
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: because that's what bad teams have, but it's also kind
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: of refreshing that they could draft anybody. It could be
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: a cornerback, defensive tackle, wide receiver. I mean, they're probably
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: not drafting a quarterback this year just because their room
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: is pretty well full, but it could be any pick,
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: and I think we'd be okay with it. M h. Anyways,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: my drafts.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's a valid point, and
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: I think that's kind of how I put together my
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: mock draft a little bit, Like I didn't just go
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: with the best player available. I kind of went based
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: off of team need, and I went with the better
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: players at that need that were available. So, uh, for
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: those of you that don't know or maybe don't follow
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: us on Twitter, because I know you posted your stuff
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: on Twitter already. We did these through Pro Footballnetwork dot Com,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: so you can do your own at Pro Footballnetwork dot
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Com slash mock draft, and I think we're going to
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: do our own. Yeah here in a little bit, we're
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: gonna try to do a speed round quick of our
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: own mock draft. But I think what I'll do is
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: I'll just in I don't know, two minutes or less,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: kind of recap my mock draft and kind of explain
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: my logic, and then I'll let you do the same
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: because you did a little bit more research and you what,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: maybe not research is the best word, but you you
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: got into the process.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: A little bit more so a little bit. If you
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: did five minutes of work, I might have done ten minutes.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: That's probably accurate. Yeah, But anyways, here was my approach
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: because you sent me the link and I was like,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: all right, I'll do this. And it took me a
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: second to kind of figure out the interface. But once
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: I did, I had it pretty figured out. The the
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Pro football whatever is it whatever I just said it,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Pro Footballnetwork dot Com, their interface wanted to offer me
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: all these trades. Yeah, and I just declined every trade
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I'm just gonna stick
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: to the picks that the Vikings have which could happen.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: No trades, We're just gonna stick with what they have.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: And then so that was kind of the first game
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: plan was like, Okay, no no trades, no extra frills,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: nothing like that. And then second was I'm just going
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: to go off of what I know we need. I
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: know we need to plug up the middle on the
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: defensive side. I know that we need a center. I
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: know that we need some help in the second I
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: know we need a tight end. Let's just see what
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: happens from there. So these are my picks. We'll put
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: a we have the picture of my mock draft here. Thanks.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: You're doing that, by the way, Yeah, of course, appreciate you. Man.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll put it up. It'll be right here.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: It'll be right over my face.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Now I'll put it over your face. Here are my
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: picks in just quick fashion. At pick number eighteen, I
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: picked defensive tackle from Ohio State, Caden McDonald. Pick forty
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: nine Chris Johnson, cornerback from San Diego State. That was
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: actually an A plus pick by interesting the mock draft computer.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: There number eighty two you texted me and said you
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: liked this pick a lot, and I do too. Jennings Dunker,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: a guard out of Iowa. Yeah, they graded me a
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: C minus on that pick, but I think the mullet
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: gives me a few extra points. Let me at least
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: a B mine.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: He's a howt eye, so I'm biased, but I did
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: text you. I was like, hey, it's funny how my
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: favorite pick of your whole mocked is the lowest graded
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: one from Pro Football Network.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: But yeah, the pictures of him are pretty awesome. Like,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know much about him as a player, but
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: his reputation precedes him.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: He will instantly, no matter where he goes, probably be
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: the most famous guard on whichever team he gets drafted too.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: All right, so those are my first three picks. Pick
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: ninety seven Parker Brailsford, center from Alabama. This was another
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: A plus pick, So I'm excited about that. I knew
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: we needed a center. Who knows, maybe Parker finds his
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: way to Minnesota. Pick one sixty three Devin Moore cornerback, corner,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: not quarter corner back from Florida.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Your second cornerback so far.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, and that's kind of a Mike Zimmer thing.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: He always drafted a lot of corners and safeties. Pick
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: one ninety six Matthew Hibner, tight end from Southern Methodist. Okay,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: those last two picks were great an a for me,
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: so I feel good about those. Pick two thirty four
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Devin Boykin, safety out of Indiana, super Bowl or not
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: super Bowl National Championship caliber team. But that was another
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: thing that I factored in. Like, Okay, NFL style teams
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Ohio State, Iowa, Alabama, Florida, Indiana, it's not true for
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: this next one. Picked two thirty five Aaron Hall, defensive
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: tackle out of Duke, and my final pick at two
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: forty four was Preston Hodge, a cornerback out of Colorado.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: So that was my draft. Yeah, just kind of straight laced,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: no frills, no trades, quite a few as a couple
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: of b's yep, one c not bad.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, three cornerbacks, which I think absolutely could happen. I
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: forget how many I drafted, but I think that could.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Defense of backs in general could be a highly focused
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: position for the Vikings. Like I said a few minutes ago,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: this team, there's not really any position group that is
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent solid and I'd be shocked if they
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: drafted anybody, even once we get in later in the draft,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: if they threw a flyer on a quarterback, I wouldn't
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: be shocked. Like I think Max Brosmer is definitely your
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: practice squad level guy right now, right now. But if
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: there was a guy that they really liked and they
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: got into like the sixth round, and they think that
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: he could be like a fourth rounder something like that,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: I don't even know who that would be, but if
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: the team really liked him, we could see some value
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: picks like that. But Yeah, I liked your draft. I
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: liked the idea of no trades. I definitely made some
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: trades just because I did evaluate some of the offers
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: that came up in the simulator as my mock draft
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: was going. Yeah, what would you say of yours? Is
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: probably your favorite pick, maybe one that is most likely
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: to actually happen. What are your thoughts.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: I like the Parker Breilsford pick, the center from Alabama.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: I felt good when I saw the A plus rating
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: next to that, I'm like, okay, so it's not like
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: they're giving up a ton. It's not a Garrett Bradbury
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: first round kind of thing, which Garrett Bradbury didn't turn
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: out to be a bad center for the Vikings.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, he wasn't He wasn't bad.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: He wasn't great, he wasn't elite, but he wasn't bad.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: And so I think the price tag is just right there.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: It's a fourth round pick. He's coming from very much
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: a pro style team Alabama. I know they're under new
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: leadership now with Kailin de Boor, but I still think
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: the Jeans are strong coming out of Alabama. I like
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: that pick a lot. And I don't know, I like
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: the Iowa kid coming to coming to Minnesota. I think
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of just cultural things and people might
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: not credit that too much in the NFL. I don't know,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: because Koc is not a Midwest guy. Yeah, yeah, whatever,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: But I don't know. I like that guy. He seems
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: like he seems like he's just a down home willing
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: to put his hand in the dirt and just keep
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: on grinding and play after play, and that's what you
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: need out of a guard. So even though they graded
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: me a C minus on that pick, I'm still gonna
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: give myself a B at the very least because of
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: his mullet and then I don't know, maybe his play
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: will Maybe that's a little too high to pick him,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Maybe the third round is too high to pick him.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I will tell you this, Jennings Knunker
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: is a guy that whenever he gets picked, I have
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: thirty one chances for me to be for me to go, oh,
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: dang it, like, ah, what a bummer, I've wanted my team,
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: and then one chance for me to be like, oh, yeah,
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he's a first rounder, but when
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: he gets drafted, I will either be very excited or
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: pretty disappointed. And then that unless he gets drafted with
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: the Vikings, that mood will will move pretty quickly. But
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: he definitely is probably one of the more famous, like
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: non first round picks that I know of in this draft.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: And maybe that's just Iowa bias for me, but I
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: would be very excited. I would probably seek out to
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: purchase his jersey just because he seems like a funny
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: dude and like a cool, cool guy to root for.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: And that one could you grow the mullet too, So
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: if I grew out my hair, it naturally grows into
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: a mullet. And that's why I always have it buzzed
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: or ball just so, I don't wear a mullet. Well,
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: Jennings he wears it. Well. He's also a redhead, right, Yeah,
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: he's a ginger, so maybe that adds to it. I
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: don't know. He seems like a fun dude, and like
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: I said, no matter where he goes, he will instantly
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: be probably the most enigmatic, the most famous guard on
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: that team, at least for a little bit. So yeah,
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: I like your draft a lot of I think position wise,
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: it fills a lot of holes. It offers the chance
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: to provide depth at a lot of positions. I don't know.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: I think it's probably true the Vikings will probably end
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: up drafting a tight and they probably need one. For me.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: I've got a lot of faith in Hockinson. I don't
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: know how much they need to put into drafting one.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: But in what the fourth or fifth round, when you
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: got Matthew Hibner, I think that's a solid, solid spot.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: But yeah, overall, I give your draft a really good grade.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: I think it's I think B plus is a very
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: fair grade. I like it a lot.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought so too. You took a little bit
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: of a different approach to your draft. It seems like
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: you were willing to take those trades that were offered
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: and maybe stockpile the picks a little bit more, because
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: I think I ended up with nine picks, which is
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: what the vikings have? You ended up with what like
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: eleven or twelve picks?
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Twelve picks while also gaining some future picks two more picks,
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: a second rounder and a third rounder in twenty twenty seven,
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: so the following draft, yep. So yeah, it wasn't necessarily
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: my goal to gain as many picks and take all
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: the trades. You'll notice I didn't trade up at all.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: I just as the pick came up. If there were
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: trades offered, I definitely weighed the pros and cons of
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: taking that as if I was the brisness, you know,
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: trying to see not just this year twenty twenty six,
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: but the future of the team. And truthfully, in taking trades,
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: I was kind of thinking, you know, the last few
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: quasy drafts, if you go back a couple episodes of
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: The School Hop, I think when I was talking to
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: Dustin Baker, he said something something about how the biggest
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: downfall of these quasy drafts that have been worthless is
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: that your team gets really old. Really quick, because they
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: don't have those twenty two to twenty three twenty four
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: year old guys completely coming in and performing well. Usually
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: the good performers, if they're not draft picks, they're you know,
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: free agents or older guys that have come in. So
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: in taking trades, I kind of took the mindset of, like, well,
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: the last few drafts haven't been great, so let's kind
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: of bolster this draft and help the future drafts to
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: be able to correct that foundation of not many young players,
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: you know, homegrown being brought into the organization. So with
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: the first round, I the pick came up at number eighteen,
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: and one of the offers for a trade was with
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: New England and it was to move down. It was
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: to send number eighteen to New England and in exchange,
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: the Vikings would get the thirty first pick, still in
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: the first round, they gain a second rounder, this sixty
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: third pick, and then a twenty twenty I think this
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: says twenty twenty six third rounder, but that might have
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: been twenty twenty seven. Either way, it's trading one pick
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: for three and still not missing out on the first round.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: So I thought that was a good deal. So I
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: took that and then by the time the thirty first
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: pick came up, a trade pop up popped up with
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: Denver to move down from thirty one to sixty two,
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: which is out of the first round overall, and fans
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: wouldn't love that because it's always fun to have a
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: first round pick, But this draft seems to be more
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: of a depth draft anyways. There's not too many high
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: end superstars that you need to be up in the
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: five to six seven range, so I figured the more
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: second and third round picks I could have, the better,
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: So that one, I traded the thirty first pick to
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: Denver in exchange for number sixty two in the second round,
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: number one oh eight in the fourth round, number one
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: eleven in the fourth round, and then next year's second
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: round pick. Again. If you're looking at the graphic, it
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: says twenty twenty six, but that's twenty twenty seven. So
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: then ultimately that made it so my first pick in
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: the draft was at number forty nine for cornerback D'Angelo
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: Ponds out of Indiana, another national champion guy. He's a
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: guy that I've seen in the few mock drafts I've
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: looked at. He's one that you know he kind of
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: starts coming in the equation at the end of the
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: first round, but definitely heavy in the second round. The
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: software gave me an a on that. Next up, I
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: had Lee Hunter, and defensive tackle from Texas Tech. That
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: was an A plus pick, and honestly, I think that
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: was just more of how I saw him listed in
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: the software, like, Oh, it says he's a good value here,
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: so I'm gonna pick him. And I know the Vikings
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: can use a defensive tackle, so that got a plus.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: We'll see. And then next set number seven, I got
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Mike Washington Junior, a running back out of Arkansas. I
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: think the Vikings are going to take a running back.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: Either they're going to try for the home run trade
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: up and get Jeremiah Love, which I don't think will
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: happen at all, or they'll wait and in the second, third,
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: fourth round they'll I think we're going to see a
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: running back join the team this draft.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: That was one that I did not pick. That was
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: one position I didn't emphasize in mind. Yeah, interestingly, keep going.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: I think I only drafted one running back too, but
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: the room the way it already looks like adding one
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: could could be very useful. Next up at eighty two
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: offensive well, a center Connor lou out of Auburn, and
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: he's a name. There's like three or four centers that
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: I've heard their names that will be joining teams. Lou
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: is one, the Iowa kid, Logan Jones is one. The
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: one you drafted, Brailsford out of Alabama was one, and
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: there's one or two that I've that I've heard their names.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: I think the Vikings are going to end up with
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: at least one of those guys that got a B plus.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: At pick ninety seven, I took wide receiver out of
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: Notre Dame Malachai Fields. I wouldn't be shocked to see
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: the Vikings come away with a draft come away from
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: the draft with a wide receiver. You can always use
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: good wide receivers, and who knows what Jordan Addison is
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: going to be with this team, not necessarily this coming season,
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: but in future seasons too. At one O seven, I
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: took another center, Logan Jones out of Iowa that got
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: me a C grade. But I do think that offensive
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: line is going to get some attention in the draft.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: One or two to three guys, and they might be centers,
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: but they could be guys that if there's any position flexibility.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: The Vikings like those guys. They like the guys that
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: can move around, and unfortunately, due to injury, the Vikings
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: have needed some of those guys to move around in
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: the last few years. So plus I'm an Iowa guy,
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: so Logan Jones bring them bring him home. Next up,
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: at one o eight, I've got Oscar delp a tight
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: end out of Georgia.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Similar to where I guess. It's almost one hundred picks
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: sooner than you drafted your tight end, but I still
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: think a tight end might come out of this draft.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: At one eleven, I got Grayson Halton, a defensive tackle
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: out of Oklahoma, earned me an a grade. At one six,
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: I got another Indiana defensive back in Lewis Moore, a safety. Uh.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: Two thirty four this is where it was kind of
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: getting really tough in these later picks. Two thirty four,
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: I took Eric Gentry, a linebacker out of USC two
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: thirty five took a guard out of Arkansas, Fernando Carmona Junior.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: And then with my final pick two forty four, Jeremy Rolder,
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: a Michigan linebacker that friend of the show force would
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: be very excited to root for on all of our
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: favorite team. So and then again I gained a second
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: rounder and a third rounder in the next draft, so
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: I thought it was well thought out. I thought it
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: did a good job of addressing the foundation of the
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: team while bolstering the future a little bit too.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: What was your favorite either pick or what was your
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: favorite trade? Because you, again, you kind of had multiple
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: layers here, So what do you feel the best about.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: I mean that that first trade with New England to
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: move down from eighteen to thirty one while gaining a
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: second rounder this year and a third rounder next year.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, it wouldn't be the most exciting thing, honestly,
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: if that exact trade happened, I think a lot of
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: Vikings fans in the moment might be like ah. But also,
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: something I didn't say in this mock draft, one of
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: the deciding factors and be accepting that trade was the
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: fact that Dylan Thienemann, a guy that has been mocked
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: to the Vikings in at least ninety percent of all
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: of the serious mock drafts out there, by that time
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: in my mock draft, he had already been selected, so
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: he wasn't even an option, So it was one of
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: those like, hey, seems like option number plan A is
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: out the window a little bit. I think even Kenyan Sidik,
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: the tight end that we mentioned from Moregan, he had
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: also been drafted, so the names that I was most
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: familiar with going to the Vikings in the first round
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: were already picked up. So I thought the idea to
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: move not that far down still be able to get
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: decent talent in the first round, which I didn't know
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: at the time. I ultimately was gonna draft or trade
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: out of the first round altogether, while also gaining a
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: second and a third round pick, was a solid deal.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: So I'd be excited if that pick, you know, if
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: that situation presented itself exactly the way it was in
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: my mock draft in real life, I think i'd be
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: I'd be happy with a move like that, trading back
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: with New England.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I obviously did not get that involved in my draft,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: but I like it, and I like how many picks
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: you ended up in your draft. You ended up with
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: I think three more picks than I did, which you
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: said could be more of a depth draft, So that
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: could be the play rather than like quality, It's quantity, right,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: and then I don't know, I think you prioritized a
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: running back. I know that that's kind of another interesting
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: conundrum that the Vikings find themselves in right now, too,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: is we do at that position because to win games,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: you need an electric running back. You need somebody who
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: can rack up a bunch of yards and move the
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: ball down the field when things aren't happening between your
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: quarterback and receivers.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: Or at the very least a solid running game. So
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: if you have not one electric running back but three
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: solid you know, a room of guys at the running
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: back position, the chances of at least one of them
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: being able to inject a thirty yard rush when you
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: really need it, that's that's always something you need. So yeah,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think a wide receiver is probably coming
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: to the team in the draft, and running back is
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: probably coming to the team in this draft. And then probably, honestly,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: if we're being truthful, probably a lot of boring picks
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: that end up building that foundation a little bit more too.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: For sure. And on the topic of Dylan Thieneman, for
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: just a second, I was kind of looking up his
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: stats and trying to research him a little bit more.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: He played his best ball as a freshman at Purdue
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: one hundred and six combined tackles, six picks for fifty
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: eight yards. He hasn't come close to that since his
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: freshman year. And that's not to say that he's had
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: a bad career, but he was. He was with Purdue
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: his freshman and sophomore year, one hundred and six tackles
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: fresh from year one hundred and four combined tackles his
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: sophomore year, no interceptions that year when he made the
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: move to Oregon. This last year, only ninety six combined tackles,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: So a little bit of a drop off, but not
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: a ton.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: I think that's negligible.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a pretty big producer for them, and two picks,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: so a pretty big drop off in interceptions. But again,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: interceptions are kind of easy come, easy go. So all
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: that to say he's experienced, he's got a lot of
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: playing time under his belts. How old is he, I
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: should say at the top of that he is? It
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: doesn't know, Okay, nope, but I mean he's he's only
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: gone through his junior year at college, so he hasn't
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: finished senior year. So yeah, twenty one.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: Google is to be believed. Yeah, twenty one, so I
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: just twenty two and at the start of the season.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: I think it's interesting that he has this much hype
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: behind him at this point in his career. Good player,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: not a bad player by any means, and a player
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: that I would want to see on the Vikings for sure.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: Could be could be the next Harrison Smith, could be
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: the next Josh Mattellus, could be the next fill in
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: the blank, right, Like, there's a handful of players that
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: we've seen come through the Vikings organization that we would
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: love to have another one of those, and somebody like him.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: Funny you mentioned Harry's name because apparently we're Harrison Smith podcast,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: which I'd be okay with, by the way. Oh yeah,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: but somebody in Koc's press conference today specifically asked like, hey, well,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: they were talking about Harrison Smith, and somebody asked like,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: you know, does his decision timeline affect your guys's draft
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: strategy at all? And I truly believe it when Koc
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: because his if you go back and watch the video,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: his answer seemed pretty honest and candid. He basically was like, eh,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: I mean not really like it'd be nice to know,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: but like me personally, the way Kosi answered it, if
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: they were to draft the Enemen or another safety in
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: the first round, like really high, I wouldn't immediately say like, well,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: Harry's gone. I mean, maybe he is gone, but I
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: don't think the draft will be a tip of the
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: hat to US fans and whether or not he comes
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: back or not. It's not like we can come away saying, well,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: obviously the team knows he's not coming back because they
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: drafted the Enemen, they wouldn't have gotten him either way.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: I think you could both have the Enemen and have
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: Harry come back, and that would only be a good
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: thing for the team.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: And a good thing for the Enemen's development too, to
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: have that veteran guy there to teach him, help him,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: you know, learn the ropes and figure it out. I
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: like that a lot, so good point. Yeah, all right,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: let's do our own mock draft. You see, ready to go,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: Let's uh on the screen record this that way, We've
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: got it all here and we can put it right
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: here and everybody can watch it. So I've set a
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: few parameters already. Obviously we're only drafting for the Vikings, yep.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: Otherwise we'd be here all night. We're gonna do seven rounds,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: so we're gonna go the whole, the whole nine yards here,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: we're gonna go fast mode, so the computer is gonna
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: pick quickly. Big board. Do we want to go with
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: the Pro Footballnetwork dot COM's Big Board, the Consensus Big Board,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: ESPN Pro Football Focus?
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: You remember when you did yours, which one you chose?
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: I think I just went with the first one.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: Okay, I went with the Consensus Big Board. I don't
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: think for this, you know, I think they're all fine.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: There's gonna be a little bit of variation between all
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: of them.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: For funzies, Let's go with ESPN, all right, Let's do
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: it just to just to mix it up a little bit. Yeah,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: all right, So here we go, and again this is
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: being screen recorded. Hopefully you can see that from where
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: you're sitting on it towards you a little bit. But
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: here we go.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: All right, So yeah, it should just jump right in
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: raiders boom. Oh. Well this is fast.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: It's real fast. Okay, So we have a trade offer already.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: We can trade pick eighteen to the Niners and get
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: picked twenty seven, picked fifty eight and a twenty twenty
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: seven seventh rounder. Do we take it or no.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: Man, I don't know. Does it show you who's been
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: picked up? I think if you hit Hyde that doesn't
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: like cancel the trade offer.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: So Jeremiah Love just went to the Jets at sixteen.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: He fell to sixteen. Okay, Mendoza obviously went to the Raiders.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's a done deal.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: I'm looking for the Sediqus Nolthieneman, the McNeil morens that
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: those are the big names that I've seen mocked to
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: the Vikings. Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't there another trade
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: offer if you hit next there?
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Oh there is another one. Atlanta would give us pick
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: forty eight, pick seventy nine and then three twenty twenty
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: seven picks, a second, third and a seventh.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: Man, that's a lot of value. But also to go
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: down from eighteen all the way to forty eight forty eight, Oh,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: that's tough. I don't know what's your What are your
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: thoughts on these two trade offers.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna puck. I'm gonna stick where I was in
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: my draft. I'm gonna say reject because of what you
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: already said. Sadiq is still on the boards. The Eemen's
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: still on the board. Why not try to get one
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: of those guys.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you said that. That's my my thought too, Right.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna reject, reject, and we're gonna go. Should
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: we go Sidik or the Enemen?
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: You both here, honestly, So for me, I think I
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: said my thoughts on the current tight end room for
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: the Vikings right now. I think Hockinson, Josh Oliver, then
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: there's a few other guys in there. I think it's okay.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: I think it's not for me. It's not a room
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: that needs a first round pick, so I'd be leaning
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: towards a Theenemen or what's the other one that I
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: just said that Neil Warren McNeil Warren. Those are really
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: but that's only because those are the guys I've seen
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: her before. Yeah, let's go with the Enemon, all right,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: let's do it. Let's yeah, all right, so this should
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: boom quickly take us importantly. The way we're doing it,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: we're not really giving ourselves the opportunity to trade up. True,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: if we notice, like, oh, this one player is still available,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: let's try to trade up. I think that's fine. We're
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: not We're not elite draft minds enough to know, like, oh,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: this other guy, like the Caden McDaniel. I think he
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: might be a good guy worth trading back into the
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: first round if he's still available late.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: Sidik ended up going to the Patriots, by the way,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: in the first round, thirty first overall. All, right, Okay,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: so we were given in two more trade offers. I think, okay,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: we could trade pick forty nine and pick one sixty
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: three to the Ravens. In return, we would get pick eighty,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: pick one fifteen, and a twenty twenty seven second round
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: pick that's from the Ravens. Or we could trade pick
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: forty nine to the Rams for pick sixty one and
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: pick ninety three.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: Of the two options, I like the Ravens one's one better,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: just because I think the value of getting next year's
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: second round pick is nice. But you're drastically reducing one
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: pick and then pretty drastically improving another pick.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: I would counter that by saying, you're giving up two
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: picks in this year's draft, and I guess maybe you're
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: moving up a little bit from one sixty three to
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: one fifteen, Whereas if you accept the trade with the Rams,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: you're only giving up one pick and you're getting an
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: additional pick in this year's draft. So if you're trying
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: to bank some picks for later rounds this year, I'm
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: still gonna say reject at this point.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: Just because I'm good with it.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: There are some other players. Our man Jennings Dunker is
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: on the board.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: Still it might be a little early, all right. You
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: don't want to probably a little early for any of
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: the centers too, based on what I'm seeing.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: You don't want to pick them up in the second round.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: He's like, he's up there, he's up there.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: You know. I've seen a lot of Caleb Banks, so
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: that defensive tackle from Florida. I know he's the first
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: one listed.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: He is the best available at this point. I'm okay
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, I think that's a good pick, and
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: that's a position we need, right, you need to plug
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: the middle on the defensive side of the ball.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: All right, I'm happy with those first two. What is it, Dylanthiedeman,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: Kleb Banks. I think those are very possible first two
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: picks for the Vikings with no trades.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: All right, another trade here, just the one. We could
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: trade pick eighty two and pick two forty four to
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: Denver and get pick one. Oh, eight and a third
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: rounder in twenty seven, I again will reject this. The
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: value here, Yeah, you're.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: Moving down almost a whole round and then giving another
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: pick just to gain a third round pick.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: And they give you a little like value scale, and
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: it seems to be very Denver heavy and not so
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: much Vikings heavy.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: Humor me from an hit counter, okay, and then take
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: off that seventh round pick from the Vikings this one, yep,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: and if it should oh so, and there's a little
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: bar at the volume hit propose. Yeah, So this the
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: way it's presented right now, trading the eighty second pick
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: to Denver for the one hundred and eighth and a
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: third rounder next year, I would do this. I don't
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: think they will. I think if you hit confirmed, they'll oh,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: that's accepted. So I'm sorry I kind of took over
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: on that.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: That's all right, we can't really theres a lot of
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: value in that one there. That better than it was originally, right,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: and you had to counter in order to get the
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: value out of it.
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  Speaker 2: For the two hundred and forty fourth pick, I mean,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: you're that's a seventh rounder.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, So now we're at pick ninety seven. Yep, Another
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: trade offer here pick ninety seven and pick two forty
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: four to the Colts. In return, we would get pick
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: one thirteen and a twenty twenty seven fourth rounder.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: I don't like it, okay, I don't like it. So
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: I think now we are entering the territory of those centers.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: I agree, all right, so we're going to reject that.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: Uhh, Slaughter was a name I couldn't remember.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: Slaughter is at the top of the board as a center.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: So and again, remember we went with the ESPN Big board,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: and importantly.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: Look at the pick right before the vikings right there,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: Logan Jones to Seattle right ahead of the vikings, right there.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: But I, personally i'd be okay with that Slaughter pick.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: Connor Loo wasn't Was he your pick? Was he yours
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: or mine?
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: He was mine. I picked him at number eighty two.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: So he's available a little bit farther down. But I
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: would tend to say best available center. You hit both right,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: best available, and it's a need. I'm gonna go with him.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: I'm with you, all right.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: We move into round four, no trades. We get to
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: pick at one oh eight. We could always.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: Propose a trade, but that would take a lot of time.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: This would be a good spot if there's like defensive backs,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: if there's.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: So Davison, Gigbinison. I said that, first time I've ever
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: heard that Namegison. I don't know how to say that.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: Cornerback from Ohio State. He's at the top of the board.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: Kamari Ramsey USC safety.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: There's a Oscar delp there. I drafted him, yeah my
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: mock draft at one oh eight. Okay, literally the same
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: pick right here, so we could take delp it.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: We haven't taken a tight end yet. Yeah, was that
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: a positive grade for you in that when I took it,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: it was.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: A C plus, So not really, but that was also
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: based off the consensus big board. I don't know if
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: that's any different with ESPN, but also they I think
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: ESPN has him listed at one ten.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: So we've taken Thienemin, Banks, and Slaughter so far.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: While gaining a pick in twenty twenty seven.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: Right, yep, So we have a safety, a defensive tackle,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: and a center. I'm okay taking the cornerback from Ohio State.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: Best available. We haven't drafted one of those yet. Again,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: it's that balance between best available and team need. I'm
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: okay with that.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it all right.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: We move into round five. Probably this might be the
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: biggest gap between picks that we'll have. And I had
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: a similar gap in my mock draft.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: I went from one eleven all the way down to
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: one ninety six. At one point, we're.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: At one sixty three. Now one sixty three. There is
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: a couple of quarterbacks at the top of the board.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: A tight end Nick Borcature from Texas A and M.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: He's fourth down right now. We haven't picked a tight
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: end yet. Got some cornerbacks. You got some edg rushers.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: We don't really need an EDG rusher. I don't know.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking maybe the tight end from A and M.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: Let's do it all right.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: And we move on. Now we're into a round six.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: Here we go one ninety six. A tackle from Memphis,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: Travis Burke, is at the top of the board. Safety
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: Bishop Fitzgerald from USC Second. I see there's a couple
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: of wide receivers there at the top of the board.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: I'd be looking like wide receiver linebacker. If there was
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: a highly ranked, you know, higher than should be here
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: ranked player, either an offensive lineman or a defensive defensive back.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: Other than that, wide receiver. I really think the Vikings
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: will address wide receiver at some point in this. So
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: there's a couple options there. You've got Caleb Douglas from
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: Texas Tech. You've got J. Michael Sturt of It out
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: of Florida.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: Two guys. I don't know anything about it.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know anything about him either, but maybe a
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: listener out there does. Kendrick Law from Kentucky is a
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: little farther down the board. We haven't picked a safety yet.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: Oh no, we did. We took the enement. Okay, never mind, Okay, Douglas,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: go for Tech.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: Yep, go for it.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: That'll satisfy the wide receiver need any intentions. Now we're
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: into round seven, so we're getting down to the end here.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: Now we have back to back picks here, yep, and that.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: Might be No, we've got one more at two forty
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: three more pick three more picks. Okay, linebacker out of TCU,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: nom d Obias obi as.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: Over and I will say for this point, definitely in
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: the final round or two of the draft, there you're
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: just looking throwing darts, yep, and throwing what spaghetti noodles
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: at the wall and seeing what sticks. So here it's really.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, if there were a trade, you'd almost want
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: to take it, especially if it involved a higher round
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: pick in next year's draft.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: Caydenwigien is on the board. Oh really, he's got way
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: on here?
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: Do it? I don't, Well, yeah, do it? I have
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: a kid return ability for sure? That's it. You're if
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: you're drafting Kaydenwigen in the NFL, you're you know you're
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: getting a good returner and anything else is gravy on top.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: Should we wait to see if he falls to two
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: forty four because he's projected at two point fifty two,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: I think, and we have the two hundred and forty
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: fourth pick, we could pick someone else he's a little
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: bit farther down the board. Or do we roll the
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: dice and pick him up now?
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: If this were real life, just knowing the returnability, pick
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: him up now, I'd say you got him. If this
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: were a first round rather than a second round pick,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: maybe you try to wheel and deal that. If he's
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: your guy, maybe you'd try to trade down a couple
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: of picks in the seventh round. I mean, the risk
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: of losing him is too highsteaant. Yeah, it'd be different
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: if we knew, like, oh, there's another guy that should
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: be a fifth round pick, took him?
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, all right, now we get another one here,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: some quarterbacks, the linebacker from TCUs to wide receiver Jalen Husky,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: safety out of Maryland. We already addressed that.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: I'd almost go with that linebacker just because the Viking
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: we haven't picked a linebacker yet. So the linebacker from
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: TCU Nom d Obazer yep. And I hope you get
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: a good special teamer. At best, you get a guy
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: that can spot start some games, and maybe you never
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: know what you get in these late rounds, all right.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: And then our final pick two forty four cornerback, linebacker,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: quarterback QB is not something we've selected at all. Yeah,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: not that that's in need.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: It'd be one thing if we knew the Vikings like
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: loved a certain late round quarterback, which there's no way
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: we can know that, and they did a lot of
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: work in that room.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: I saw Tyreek sap on a mock draft somewhere, edge
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: rusher from Florida.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: Do it, just do it?
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: Is that Warren SAPs Son.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: You have no idea?
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: All right, well we picked him, all right? A minus?
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Turkey high five.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: That deserves a high five. So we ended up with
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: one trade. We traded with Denver. We gave pick eighty
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: two oay and got picked one oh eight and then
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: a twenty twenty seven this is wrong, twenty twenty seven
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: third round pick net value of plus seven.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: I think that was good. We only had one C
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: on our draft, and it was Cadenwegen. Interestingly enough, well that.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: Was the one where he was like ten lower than
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: where we actually got him. But I'm okay with that man.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: A lot of our our first four picks were all a's,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: and then we had another A after that, and three
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: b's in a C. That's not bad. Yeah, we did
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah, I'd be stoked if the draft turned
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: out something like that. That'd be great.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: And now when I watched the draft, I'll actually have
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: something to refer back to and be like, hey we
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: were closer, Hey they actually picked up that guy.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: But in reality, there's how many hundreds of names that
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: are available, and we've just scratched the surface with some
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: of these guys. So it's a fun exercise. I like,
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: I understand why people do this. Really done mock drafts
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: before this is my first thing. It's fun to do,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: and we're putting a lot of trust in the grades
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: of the consensus big board and ESPN and everything like that,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: as well as this simulator's ability to accurately pick like
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: what other teams might do. So either way, it's fun.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: I enjoyed it, a lot of fun, and I think
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: we should make that a part of our routine from
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: now one, like an episode or two before the draft.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: Let's do that. Let's do individual mock drafts as insecure
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: as I am about that whole thing, and then let's
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: do it together.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: I like that. Well, we're getting a little long in
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: the tooth. Yeah, yeah, So I think we should probably
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: wrap this up. Let us know what you thought about
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: our mock drafts in the comments, either our individual mock
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: drafts or our collective mock draft. Drop us a comment
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: with your mock draft wherever you did it, however you
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: did it. We'd love to see it compare in the
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: days leading up to the draft. That would be a
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: lot of fun, just to kind of create some conversation
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: that way. And obviously none of us are Rob Razinski
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: or Kevin O'Connell or the Wolfs and whatever happens in
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: like what seventy some hours, eighty some hours. It's up
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: to them, it's not up to us.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: And watch, ten years from now, one of these three
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: drafts that we just presented here is going to be
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: just full hall of famers and perennial, all pros and
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: all that, and the Vikings will have s the bed.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: Yet again, let's hope that part isn't true. Let's talk
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: about this beer, though adventurous again, I don't know if
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: it's a beer. It's Seltzer, it says, definitely a smoothie thing, although.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't say seltzer. Seltzer to me is carbonated.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and this isn't carbonated.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: However, I really liked this.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: You liked it.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say the consistency kind of reminds me of like,
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: what is it not V eight? What's the like the
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: it's like a naked juice. Yeah, it's like a naked
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: juice consistency wise, yea, but yeah, naked juice, that's that.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: This is an alcoholic.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: It's in so I drink. I probably get a strawberry
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: banana naked juice from the gas station at least twice
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: a week.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, nice on average, flex man, those are not the
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: cheapest things. No, I probably.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: Shouldn't spend as much as I do on those, but
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: I've been.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: Like twenty bucks a week.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not going I'm not going to Starbucks and getting
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: the like super frilly drinks every day on my way
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: to work.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: That's just every other day.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when I'm not getting the strawberry bananas.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: Anyways, No, I'm an expert with these naked juices, and
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: this is this is a naked juice consistency. One of
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: the things that throws me off with this is the alcohol.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like and I said this when we first
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: sipped it. I'm like, the alcohol kind of throws me
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: off because I'm just so used to throwing these back
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: in the morning and it's healthy and it's good for you,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: and I like the flavor of it and the alcohol
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: bite in this is just it's obviously really good. Because
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: I'm almost done.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: With two, I like, but I will get this again.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: I just hope for your sake that your day isn't miserable.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: I think the alcohol content is what's gonna save me.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: It's gonna take away whatever ingredient in that banana causes
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: the headache. Yeah, I think it'll be just.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: If that's not the case, I will apologize.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: I'll text you and like an evil like, how dare
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: you text? No, it'll be good. I really like this
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: a lot. It reminds me of a nice tropical cocktail
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: that you get in an all inclusive or really just
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: anywhere you could get it anywhere they have a blender.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: I enjoy it. I didn't think I wouldn't like it,
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: but I like it more than I thought I would.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: If that makes sense. Yeah, super good. Tell the people
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think we're at the end here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: I really enjoyed this beer. It was very different and
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: I'm excited to get back to a normal beer. Yeah
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: maybe next episode, we'll see. But I also enjoyed the
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: conversation and I'm excited to get back to football. I'm
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: excited to envision what's next with this Vikings team after
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: the draft, and it was fun to look at your
• 1:27:07
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• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: don't know, it might be the best episode.
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