Latest / The Breakfast Club / The Story Thickens: Updates on Young Scooter Death and Marvin Sapp Reports to The Congregation
Transcript
- 0:02Speaker 1: I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
- 0:04Speaker 1: and everybody.
- 0:05Speaker 2: You know, if you don't lie about that, right, Lauren
- 0:08Speaker 2: came in.
- 0:10Speaker 1: Hello guys, and welcome back. This is episode two of
- 0:13Speaker 1: the Latest with Lauren the Rosa. So you know, since
- 0:16Speaker 1: y'all don't pop my cherry already, you know it's feeling
- 0:19Speaker 1: like home. I'm excited to hear all the feedback. Thank
- 0:21Speaker 1: you for everybody that joined the live that I did
- 0:24Speaker 1: when I went live with the Black Effect Podcast Network.
- 0:26Speaker 1: If you as locked into me as I need y'all
- 0:29Speaker 1: to be, I need you guys to subscribe to the
- 0:31Speaker 1: audio wherever you get your podcasts, the iHeart app, the
- 0:35Speaker 1: you know, the podcast app through Apple, Spotify, all that
- 0:39Speaker 1: good stuff. Subscribe to the audio because that's where everything
- 0:42Speaker 1: will always go first, first, fast, efficient, factual.
- 0:46Speaker 2: That is what we're giving over here. Okay, I'm Laura
- 0:48Speaker 2: l Rosa.
- 0:49Speaker 1: I'm the homegrowd that knows a little bit about everything
- 0:51Speaker 1: and everybody. And let's get on into this episode, episode two.
- 0:56Speaker 1: So today I'm actually here. I have family in my
- 1:00Speaker 1: apartment as we are recording this. I have friends, My
- 1:04Speaker 1: mom is here, y m y'all see my makeup is done.
- 1:07Speaker 1: My makeup always be done. I was, my makeup is done.
- 1:09Speaker 1: My makeup is always done. Okay, the girl is always giving.
- 1:12Speaker 1: But today this is like special beat, special hair because
- 1:16Speaker 1: we are actually getting ready to.
- 1:17Speaker 2: Head to the launch party for the podcast.
- 1:20Speaker 1: But as all of this was happening, so as my
- 1:22Speaker 1: makeup was getting done, as my hair was getting done,
- 1:25Speaker 1: I got an alert. I'm still subscribed to all of
- 1:28Speaker 1: TMZ's alerts. I also get breaking news via Twitter from
- 1:31Speaker 1: MSNBC N like all these different place uh places, My
- 1:35Speaker 1: phone like never stops with the notifications. And they released
- 1:38Speaker 1: the audio a nine to one one call from the
- 1:41Speaker 1: night that young Scooter UH, the ATL rapper UH that
- 1:45Speaker 1: passed away last weekend on.
- 1:47Speaker 2: His thirty ninth birthday.
- 1:49Speaker 1: He was running from police and UH towards something or
- 1:53Speaker 1: you know something where he like bled out. There was
- 1:54Speaker 1: an artery or something that was affected. He was running
- 1:58Speaker 1: from police and that happened and he died because of that.
- 2:02Speaker 1: After there was a phone call made to police. So
- 2:04Speaker 1: now we have more information. So the nine one one
- 2:07Speaker 1: call was about a four minute, eight second audio. There
- 2:10Speaker 1: was a woman who called in from the neighborhood. She
- 2:13Speaker 1: was the neighbor of the whatever the house. This was
- 2:16Speaker 1: that young scooter and you know these alleged seven other
- 2:20Speaker 1: men or six other men were at so in the
- 2:22Speaker 1: nine one one call, it opens and it starts with
- 2:24Speaker 1: her saying, hey, I'm neighborhood watch. There are about seven
- 2:28Speaker 1: men in a house. This house has a lot of activity.
- 2:31Speaker 1: I don't know if they're selling drugs out of the house.
- 2:33Speaker 1: I don't know if it's you know, prostitution or trafficking.
- 2:36Speaker 1: Like she alleged a ton of different things, but what
- 2:38Speaker 1: she was saying is like, look, it's something going on
- 2:40Speaker 1: over there. As she's talking police through what she's seeing,
- 2:43Speaker 1: she's saying different things like the woman was fighting with
- 2:47Speaker 1: a man. She mentioned that, you know, within this fight
- 2:51Speaker 1: with this man, the man was not holding back on
- 2:54Speaker 1: this woman. The woman got to a point where whatever
- 2:56Speaker 1: the injuries were that she sustained, she was bleeding insanely.
- 2:59Speaker 1: She says that the woman called someone to the house,
- 3:02Speaker 1: called other men to the house, and there were gunshots
- 3:05Speaker 1: that went off.
- 3:06Speaker 2: After those gunshots.
- 3:07Speaker 1: Went off, is when the physical altercation between that woman
- 3:10Speaker 1: at this neighborhood watch person is seeing and whoever this
- 3:15Speaker 1: man is and she doesn't identify the man, so we
- 3:17Speaker 1: don't know who the man was. And she kept saying
- 3:19Speaker 1: I think she said at about two or three times
- 3:21Speaker 1: that there there was a child involved because that there
- 3:24Speaker 1: the woman just had a baby, that there was a
- 3:26Speaker 1: baby somewhere or a child somewhere in this house or
- 3:29Speaker 1: somewhere in the situation. But this phone call, which Atlanta
- 3:32Speaker 1: Police have released, now, the craziest part about this is
- 3:36Speaker 1: that the woman right who called in, who says, Hey,
- 3:39Speaker 1: I'm neighborhood watch. This is what I'm seeing. Police don't
- 3:42Speaker 1: even know that they haven't located her. They're trying to
- 3:44Speaker 1: locate her. That's that was the point in them putting
- 3:47Speaker 1: a call out. So I reached out to law enforcement sources.
- 3:53Speaker 3: My name is Lauren. I want to go to area.
- 3:56Speaker 3: So I was reaching out. I saw the want order
- 3:59Speaker 3: on the guys release for the the young the young
- 4:01Speaker 3: scooter death. I had a question for you. So I
- 4:04Speaker 3: know when you guys at the press conference uh over
- 4:06Speaker 3: the weekend, you would said that you never located a
- 4:08Speaker 3: woman or spoke to a woman or anything like that.
- 4:11Speaker 3: The call is pretty detailed and in what the Neighborhood
- 4:15Speaker 3: Watched persman has describe it have you got since talk
- 4:17Speaker 3: to a woman or anybody additional that points to a
- 4:20Speaker 3: woman or like does anything is there anything additional from
- 4:22Speaker 3: that press conference that we heard before gotcha?
- 4:26Speaker 1: After speaking to lawenforcement sources, I now understand that they
- 4:28Speaker 1: put the nine one one call out because they're actually
- 4:31Speaker 1: trying to locate this woman. This is like a huge
- 4:34Speaker 1: development to have a witness like that, even though they
- 4:37Speaker 1: don't know who she is yet, but to have someone
- 4:39Speaker 1: out there who saw and describe things of that nature.
- 4:41Speaker 1: The case is saw up at this point, if you
- 4:43Speaker 1: asks me, they just gotta get to her.
- 4:44Speaker 2: I think by the end of the week.
- 4:46Speaker 1: Uh, police in Atlanta should have a lot more of
- 4:48Speaker 1: a zone than air too. What actually led up to
- 4:51Speaker 1: the death of young Scooter? Now second, uh, we gonna
- 4:55Speaker 1: go to the church. So Marvin Sap for some background
- 5:03Speaker 1: for you guys who first of all, do not know
- 5:05Speaker 1: who he is. Marvin Sap is uh never could have
- 5:08Speaker 1: made it, never would have made it. That song is probably,
- 5:11Speaker 1: like I would say, one of the the the biggest,
- 5:13Speaker 1: Like it's like a calling card to the black church
- 5:15Speaker 1: at this point, black church, black funeral, all those things.
- 5:19Speaker 1: But he is also a preacher as well. So he
- 5:21Speaker 1: was in a church conference. He instructed ushers to close
- 5:26Speaker 1: doors and uh, he instructed people on the live stream
- 5:31Speaker 1: and people in the church, including you know, everybody on
- 5:34Speaker 1: a pool pit to give twenty dollars. People on a
- 5:36Speaker 1: pool pick had to give a hundred dollars. So he
- 5:38Speaker 1: put a door tab on the Hallelujah. And people are
- 5:42Speaker 1: not okay with that at all, n like, not at all.
- 5:45Speaker 1: And now he's coming out and he's talking about some
- 5:49Speaker 1: of the things that he's experiencing because of that. So
- 5:52Speaker 1: Marvin Sap sat down with the Ricky Smiley s Show
- 5:56Speaker 1: and he basically he's trying to clear it up. Like
- 5:59Speaker 1: I feel like when marvels sat first came out with
- 6:01Speaker 1: his statement. Once this video went ReViral because again this
- 6:05Speaker 1: video is from July of twenty twenty four, so this
- 6:07Speaker 1: is not a new video.
- 6:09Speaker 2: It went viral again.
- 6:10Speaker 1: I don't know what why, but when things are on
- 6:13Speaker 1: the internet, that's what it does. But he posted something
- 6:17Speaker 1: on Facebook basically saying like, look, he was at a convention.
- 6:20Speaker 1: He had over four thousand people in attendance that evening,
- 6:24Speaker 1: including the virtual viewers, and in the moment he challenged
- 6:28Speaker 1: leadership and the people that were viewing to sew a
- 6:31Speaker 1: different amount of different amounts of money. So he asked
- 6:35Speaker 1: the two thousand people that were viewing virtually and in
- 6:38Speaker 1: person to sew twenty dollars. And when I say so,
- 6:41Speaker 1: for those of you who are not black church big
- 6:43Speaker 1: hat church goers, so accede or sowing the church is
- 6:46Speaker 1: like ties to offering. So that's when you give your
- 6:48Speaker 1: money to the church. So he had asked the viewers
- 6:51Speaker 1: and the people just attending church to give twenty dollars,
- 6:53Speaker 1: and then if you were there and any official capacity
- 6:56Speaker 1: on the pool point, you had to give one hundred dollars.
- 6:59Speaker 1: He made it clear that that evening he personally gave
- 7:02Speaker 1: much more. He broke it down. He said he had
- 7:03Speaker 1: to pay basically like a licensing or something that he
- 7:06Speaker 1: has to do it in order to like be able
- 7:08Speaker 1: to preach, and then some other things.
- 7:10Speaker 2: So he spent well over two thousand dollars that night,
- 7:12Speaker 2: he said.
- 7:14Speaker 1: And then he made it clear this money would have
- 7:17Speaker 1: been for the church's like convention budget. It was not
- 7:21Speaker 1: going directly to him. Uh, this was not even at
- 7:24Speaker 1: his church. I don't know if that even really matters, though,
- 7:27Speaker 1: to be honest with you, because when I saw the
- 7:29Speaker 1: reaction to it, I don't think that people were asking, like, YO,
- 7:32Speaker 1: is this his church?
- 7:33Speaker 2: He gotta pay his light bill? I know I did.
- 7:35Speaker 2: Some people were saying, Yo, what bills does he have
- 7:37Speaker 2: to pay?
- 7:38Speaker 1: But I don't think that it mattered y'all care about
- 7:40Speaker 1: where Like when y'all heard this story, did y'all think
- 7:42Speaker 1: is this his church?
- 7:42Speaker 2: Or no? No, you didn't.
- 7:44Speaker 3: No.
- 7:45Speaker 1: A lot of people didn't care about the location of
- 7:47Speaker 1: the church. So I thought that that was kind of
- 7:48Speaker 1: odd for him to clear that up. I kN I saw,
- 7:50Speaker 1: I know what he was trying to do by saying that,
- 7:53Speaker 1: but I thought it was odd because to me, it's like,
- 7:55Speaker 1: regardless of where you are, it just doesn't look good
- 7:58Speaker 1: for a church to be doing time as an offering
- 8:00Speaker 1: and receiving money in that manner. And I think the
- 8:03Speaker 1: biggest issue that people had with him and that I
- 8:06Speaker 1: had with him personally not even have an issue, but
- 8:08Speaker 1: the thing that struck me as like, ooh, okay, that
- 8:10Speaker 1: was a little bit, that was.
- 8:12Speaker 2: A little bit much was his tone when.
- 8:14Speaker 1: He instructed the ushers to lock the doors or to
- 8:17Speaker 1: close the doors, because I think he also said it
- 8:18Speaker 1: never he Smiley interviewed. He never said lock, he said close,
- 8:22Speaker 1: but he said it very assertively. But he did also
- 8:24Speaker 1: try and say too that the reason why he was
- 8:26Speaker 1: as assertive as he was was because during that time,
- 8:30Speaker 1: when people were collecting money in church, it's a very
- 8:33Speaker 1: vulnerable time. It's an emotionally vulnerable time. And I think
- 8:36Speaker 1: he was referring to the fact that, like, you know,
- 8:38Speaker 1: just safety wise, because of money being passed around, the
- 8:40Speaker 1: things of that nature, like people coming in or doing
- 8:42Speaker 1: whatever in the church during that time.
- 8:44Speaker 2: But let me tell y'all, Okay, I go to church.
- 8:48Speaker 1: Yes, I take my shots, Yes, I you know, I mean,
- 8:50Speaker 1: I have a good time, but I do go to church.
- 8:52Speaker 1: I've never felt like you needed to lock the doors
- 8:55Speaker 1: of the church like Riker's Island when assigned to tithe.
- 8:59Speaker 1: I've never felt like that most of the time, to
- 9:01Speaker 1: be honest with y'all, in these big megachurches like where
- 9:04Speaker 1: they were, you're tithing and you're offering. Is happening digitally,
- 9:09Speaker 1: So I don't know, if you know, Marvin sat thought
- 9:13Speaker 1: that the digital dirty bandits were gonna come in and
- 9:15Speaker 1: rob everybody of.
- 9:16Speaker 2: Their iPhones and their WiFi.
- 9:18Speaker 1: But I don't understand what security breaches he thought thought
- 9:22Speaker 1: might've happened. And also too, I feel like if if
- 9:24Speaker 1: that's how you felt about that time, I can understand
- 9:27Speaker 1: it being a sacred time only because you're praying.
- 9:30Speaker 2: It's like alter call.
- 9:31Speaker 1: Like you know, if you were raised in a church,
- 9:32Speaker 1: you know there are certain times where you don't just
- 9:34Speaker 1: get up and lead church.
- 9:35Speaker 2: And I can understand that.
- 9:37Speaker 1: But I do think the whole oh, I was trying
- 9:39Speaker 1: to make sure that we were safe while money was
- 9:41Speaker 1: being passed around or whatever.
- 9:42Speaker 2: I know he's a preacher. God forgive me.
- 9:44Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a shot after I say this, being
- 9:46Speaker 1: just you know, I think that that was bullshit because
- 9:49Speaker 1: there's no way that like th it just doesn't happen.
- 9:52Speaker 1: That's like me having to go through uh a security
- 9:55Speaker 1: scanner before I walk into a church. There are some
- 9:57Speaker 1: churches that do have that right, but it's to everyday thing.
- 10:01Speaker 1: This is not just a one off thing. And I
- 10:02Speaker 1: don't see any other videos of him, and y'all correct
- 10:05Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. I've never seen any other videos
- 10:08Speaker 1: of Marvin Sapp and I don't dislike him.
- 10:09Speaker 2: I love his music.
- 10:11Speaker 1: I do think that he's annoying it man by God,
- 10:12Speaker 1: but I think he's human and he made a mistake,
- 10:14Speaker 1: and I would just like for him to own up
- 10:16Speaker 1: to that instead of trying to now play victim like
- 10:18Speaker 1: he's doing and to act oblivious to what he did
- 10:20Speaker 1: in the position that he's in and why people are upset.
- 10:24Speaker 1: There are churches that do have security measures, but I
- 10:27Speaker 1: think if you're doing all of that, prior to the
- 10:30Speaker 1: security measures or whatever, you don't have to get on
- 10:32Speaker 1: a microphone and say close the doors, close the doors,
- 10:36Speaker 1: nobody leave. We need to get this amount of money.
- 10:38Speaker 1: I just don't see how to correlate. I think that
- 10:41Speaker 1: there was a way to make people feel safe without
- 10:42Speaker 1: making them feel trapped.
- 10:43Speaker 2: And that's my point.
- 10:45Speaker 1: And I think that the interview that Marvin Sapp just
- 10:48Speaker 1: did with Ricky Smiley, to me, it was annoying to
- 10:51Speaker 1: see it because it's like, Okay, I get that you
- 10:54Speaker 1: might not have meant any harm by it, and you
- 10:56Speaker 1: thought you were doing a good thing because you're trying
- 10:57Speaker 1: to raise his budget for this church convention. There are
- 11:00Speaker 1: people who solely come to church, and don't get me wrong,
- 11:02Speaker 1: churches are businesses. Churches are places that you come you
- 11:05Speaker 1: use their electric, use their water, you eat their snacks,
- 11:08Speaker 1: you use their oil, you eat them crackers that don't
- 11:10Speaker 1: taste like nothing, but they cost money. All of that
- 11:13Speaker 1: stuff tech costs money. And I don't know how y'all
- 11:15Speaker 1: were raised, but you don't go on nobody house eating
- 11:16Speaker 1: their food and don't asks can you buy something?
- 11:18Speaker 2: You just don't do that.
- 11:19Speaker 1: But at the same time, there are people who come
- 11:21Speaker 1: to church without anything who are looking to be put
- 11:23Speaker 1: back together so they can get to a point where
- 11:25Speaker 1: they can even tie. And all of us have been there,
- 11:27Speaker 1: So I think that it was just it was just
- 11:29Speaker 1: distasteful and instead of you know, to me both of
- 11:32Speaker 1: the times that I've heard him speak about this, instead
- 11:35Speaker 1: of him just coming out and saying, hey, I understand
- 11:37Speaker 1: why y'all are upset.
- 11:38Speaker 2: I understand why.
- 11:39Speaker 1: This may be deemed by some as distasteful, even though
- 11:42Speaker 1: that was not my intention. But I apologize. And here's
- 11:45Speaker 1: what you know. Here, here's what the conversation around tithing
- 11:49Speaker 1: and offering should be. Here's why it matters in the church.
- 11:52Speaker 1: Here is you know, the biblical texts around it about
- 11:54Speaker 1: you know, the gifts that were given way like this
- 11:57Speaker 1: is not new tithe, tithing, and offering the it's not new,
- 12:01Speaker 1: giving gifts, offering up, it's not new, But I think
- 12:03Speaker 1: that we're getting away from such a major conversation. I
- 12:06Speaker 1: think that that's one of the biggest issues when it
- 12:08Speaker 1: comes to the Black Church. It's like we focus on
- 12:11Speaker 1: things that are like not important to bring us back
- 12:15Speaker 1: to a realm, bring to bring us back around to what.
- 12:19Speaker 2: People's issue is with the church.
- 12:20Speaker 1: It's the humans in the church and their issues and
- 12:23Speaker 1: if you're going to have a human moment, and if
- 12:24Speaker 1: you're going to mess up in a human moment, it's fine,
- 12:26Speaker 1: but be human to know that that's what's happening.
- 12:29Speaker 2: Now.
- 12:29Speaker 1: We'll say though that Marvin Sap has said that now
- 12:33Speaker 1: he's receiving death threats because of this. That's too much.
- 12:36Speaker 1: Y'all don't even go to church that much to even care. Okay,
- 12:39Speaker 1: like that is just too much. Receiving death threats is
- 12:42Speaker 1: crazy over this. It's it's not that big big of
- 12:44Speaker 1: a deal, but he said that he's receiving death threats.
- 12:46Speaker 1: He said that now his children are afraid because he's
- 12:49Speaker 1: a widower. His wife passed away, so his children are
- 12:52Speaker 1: seeing those different threats online and in the comments, and
- 12:54Speaker 1: they're scared, uh for their dad. And because of that,
- 12:58Speaker 1: he's had to beef up security at you know, where
- 13:00Speaker 1: ever he's going his churches. He's had to you know,
- 13:02Speaker 1: do different things at his home. I think that that's unfair.
- 13:05Speaker 1: People make mistakes. It happens. Let's all learn from it,
- 13:08Speaker 1: let's all grow from it. But I do think that
- 13:11Speaker 1: a little bit more of like a empathy, Hey, I
- 13:13Speaker 1: messed up, probably would change your tone around us a lot.
- 13:15Speaker 1: And now I don't think that that's where the focus
- 13:17Speaker 1: is right now. And I just don't understand why the
- 13:19Speaker 1: focus is not there whatsoever. All of this is because
- 13:23Speaker 1: of a big misunderstanding. Is Yeah, the n P pulling up.
- 13:28Speaker 1: He even said people are pulling up to the churches
- 13:30Speaker 1: and to his like, to his church and the churches
- 13:32Speaker 1: where he's at with issues. Y'all crazy as hell to
- 13:36Speaker 1: pull up on a pastor. I think his wording was wrong.
- 13:39Speaker 1: I think his and his assertiveness was wrong. But I
- 13:43Speaker 1: don't think that he has ill intent. I don't know personally,
- 13:45Speaker 1: but that's just not what I gather from it. And
- 13:47Speaker 1: also too, I've seen videos now of other preachers who
- 13:50Speaker 1: have done the same thing almost like a telethon, where
- 13:52Speaker 1: like you're trying to raise money, tryna raise money, tryna
- 13:54Speaker 1: raise money.
- 13:54Speaker 2: So I don't know.
- 13:55Speaker 1: I just hopefully he sits down and has the conversation
- 13:58Speaker 1: with somebody that's gonna like challenge him, baby, because love
- 14:00Speaker 1: Ricky Smiley. Hey Ricky, I know you probably listening, Love
- 14:03Speaker 1: you to death. But I didn't feel like he was
- 14:04Speaker 1: challenging enough in this conversation either cause there were some
- 14:07Speaker 1: things that I feel like were simple conversation or simple
- 14:09Speaker 1: questions that should have been asks in response to what
- 14:11Speaker 1: he said. So I would say, we we gonna stay
- 14:14Speaker 1: locked to this, but baby, hopefully ain't no more, cause
- 14:16Speaker 1: hopefully the church God what they needed, and the conference
- 14:18Speaker 1: will happen again next year and he gonna save all
- 14:20Speaker 1: the Saints or something. Now, this has been the latest
- 14:23Speaker 1: with Lorna Rose. I appreciate you guys for tuning on in.
- 14:27Speaker 1: Don't forget we are here daily. So every morning at
- 14:30Speaker 1: six am, I'm your daily dose of what's going down
- 14:33Speaker 1: the breakdown. I'm your homegird and knows a little bit
- 14:35Speaker 1: about everything and everybody, and I'm be asking y'all, like
- 14:39Speaker 1: I wanna know how y'all feel about the podcast, how
- 14:42Speaker 1: y'all feel about the topics, Tweet me, talk to me,
- 14:45Speaker 1: at me. I will repost you guys. I appreciate all
- 14:48Speaker 1: of you guys for tuning in and everybody, like I
- 14:49Speaker 1: said at the top of this, who has let me
- 14:52Speaker 1: know like, oh, I'm listening to the show. I love this,
- 14:54Speaker 1: I love that. Keep on doing it, y'all. So thank
- 14:56Speaker 1: you guys for tuning in. Cheers.
- 14:58Speaker 2: I'll see you guys in my next episod.
- 15:00Speaker 3: Oh