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Art Howe, Dave Magadan · WGBB Sports Talk New York

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  Sports
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  Talk
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  New.
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  The
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  Oakland
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  A's
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  during
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  the
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  legendary
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  Moneyball
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  period.
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  Like
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  to
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  welcome
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  to
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  the
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  two
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  Sports
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  Talk
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  New
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  York
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  tonight,
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  Art
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  Howe.
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  Art,
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  good
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  evening.
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  Good
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  evening,
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  Bill.
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  Thanks
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  for
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  having
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  me
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  on.
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  Great
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  to
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  have
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  you
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  with
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  us,
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  Art.
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  Now,
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  I
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  want
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  to
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  ask
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  you
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  right
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  off
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  the
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  bat.
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  Thank
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  you.
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  Growing
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  up
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  in
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  the
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  Pittsburgh
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  area,
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  can
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  we
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  assume
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  that
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  you
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  were
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  a
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  bucko's
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  fan
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  when
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  you
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  were
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  a
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  kid?
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  Most
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  definitely.
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  Most
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  definitely.
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  Now,
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  who
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  were
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  some
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  of
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  your
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  favorite
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  ballplayers?
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  Well,
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  my
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  idol
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  was
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  Roberto
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  Clemente.
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  You
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  know,
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  I
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  mean,
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  he
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  was
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  the
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  best
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  as
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  far
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  as
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  I
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  was
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  concerned,
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  especially
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  growing
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  up.
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  And
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  then
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  Willie
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  Stardew
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  was
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  another
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  one.
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  And
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  I
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  was
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  actually
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  lucky
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  enough
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  to
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  play
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  alongside
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  Willie
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  for
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  a
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  year
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  or
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  two
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  there
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  in
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  Pittsburgh.
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  So,
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  yeah,
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  those
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  two
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  were
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  my
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  two
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  favorites.
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  Did
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  you
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  spend
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  time
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  at
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  old
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  Forbes
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  Field?
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  Oh,
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  yeah,
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  yeah.
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  I
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  used
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  to
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  sit
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  in
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  the
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  50
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  cent
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  bleachers
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  down
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  the
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  left
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  field
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  line
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  whenever
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  I
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  could
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  afford
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  it.
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  And
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  sometimes
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  after
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  the
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  seventh
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  inning,
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  they
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  would
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  open
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  the
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  gates
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  and
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  we
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  could
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  sneak
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  it
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  run
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  in
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  and
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  sit
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  almost
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  anywhere.
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  So.
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  Oh,
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  yeah,
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  I
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  actually
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  pitched
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  the
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  high
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  school
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  championship
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  game
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  at
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  Forbes
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  Field.
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  So
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  that
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  was
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  a
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  throw
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  and
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  a
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  half,
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  to
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  be
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  honest.
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  Wow,
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  that's
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  great.
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  Great
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  story.
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  And
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  I
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  guess
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  that
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  down
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  the
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  left
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  field
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  corner,
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  that's
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  where
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  old
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  Kiner's
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  corner
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  was.
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  Yes,
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  it
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  was.
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  He
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  was
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  a
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  little
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  bit
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  before
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  my
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  time.
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  Right.
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  You
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  know,
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  I.
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  You
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  know,
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  I
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  knew
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  of
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  him,
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  obviously,
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  because
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  he
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  was
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  a
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  legend,
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  you
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  know,
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  before
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  I
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  got
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  old
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  enough.
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  But
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  yeah,
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  Ralph
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  Kiner,
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  quite
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  a
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  hitter,
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  and
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  got
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  to
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  meet
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  him
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  a
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  little
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  bit
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  there
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  when
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  I
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  was
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  with
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  the
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  Mets
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  and
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  when
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  he
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  was
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  announcing
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  for
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  the
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  Mets.
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  So
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  that
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  was
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  very
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  nice.
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  Yeah,
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  great
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  man.
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  A
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  great
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  man.
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  And
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  he
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  is
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  sorely
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  missed
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  around
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  here,
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  Art,
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  I'll
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  tell
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  you
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  that.
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  Now,
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  you
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  attended
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  the
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  University
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  of
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  Wyoming
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  on
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  a
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  football
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  scholarship?
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  Yes,
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  I
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  did.
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  Tell
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  us
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  a
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  little
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  bit
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  about
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  that.
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  Well,
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  I
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  went
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  out
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  there
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  on
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  a
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  football
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  scholarship,
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  as
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  you
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  mentioned,
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  and
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  I
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  actually
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  played
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  baseball
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  also
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  my
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  freshman
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  year.
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  So
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  I
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  would
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  go
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  from
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  football
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  practice
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  to
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  baseball
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  practice
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  at
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  night
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  in
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  the
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  armory,
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  where
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  they
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  had
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  the
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  lights
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  set
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  up
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  and
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  we
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  had
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  to
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  hit
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  indoors.
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  Army
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  Wyoming
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  is
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  a
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  little
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  chilly,
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  by
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  the
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  way,
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  so
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  the
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  only
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  time
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  we
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  got
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  to
• 3:15
  play
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  outside
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  actually
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  were
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  conference
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  games,
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  and
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  we
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  always
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  had
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  a
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  spring
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  trip
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  for
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  baseball.
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  But
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  my
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  freshman
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  year
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  playing
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  football
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  in
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  the
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  spring,
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  I
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  hurt
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  my
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  back
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  again,
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  which
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  I
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  had
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  hurt
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  in
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  high
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  School,
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  and
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  that
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  was
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  it
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  for
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  me
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  as
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  far
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  as
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  football
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  was
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  concerned.
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  So
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  I
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  concentrated
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  on
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  baseball,
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  and
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  I
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  earned
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  a
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  scholarship
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  playing
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  baseball
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  the
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  next
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  year.
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  Nice.
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  And
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  you
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  made
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  the
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  right
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  choice.
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  Now,
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  when
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  you
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  signed
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  with
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  the
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  Pirates,
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  that
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  must
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  have
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  been
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  a
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  dream
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  come
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  true,
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  huh?
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  Oh,
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  it
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  was.
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  I
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  mean,
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  I
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  can't
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  tell
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  you
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  how
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  excited
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  and
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  how
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  nervous
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  I
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  was.
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  You
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  can
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  imagine
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  growing
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  up
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  in
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  the
• 3:56
  same
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  city
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  and
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  all
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  these
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  players
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  are.
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  You're.
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  You
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  know,
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  you've
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  listened
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  to
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  them
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  on
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  a
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  radio
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  playing,
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  and
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  you
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  kind
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  of
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  idolize
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  them
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  and
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  you.
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  And
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  now
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  all
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  of
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  a
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  sudden,
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  you're
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  in
• 4:07
  the
• 4:07
  same
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  clubhouse
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  with
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  them,
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  and.
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  Oh,
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  I
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  mean,
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  I'm
• 4:11
  telling
• 4:11
  you,
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  I
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  was
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  so
• 4:13
  nervous
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  and
• 4:14
  so
• 4:14
  excited.
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  But
• 4:15
  at
• 4:15
  the
• 4:16
  same
• 4:16
  time,
• 4:16
  back
• 4:16
  then,
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  you
• 4:18
  know,
• 4:18
  I
• 4:18
  was
• 4:18
  the
• 4:18
  25th
• 4:19
  man
• 4:19
  on
• 4:19
  the
• 4:19
  roster,
• 4:20
  so
• 4:20
  I
• 4:20
  was
• 4:21
  to
• 4:21
  be
• 4:21
  seen
• 4:21
  and
• 4:22
  not
• 4:22
  heard.
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  And
• 4:24
  that's
• 4:24
  exactly
• 4:25
  what
• 4:25
  I
• 4:25
  did.
• 4:25
  I
• 4:25
  tried
• 4:26
  to
• 4:26
  keep
• 4:26
  a
• 4:26
  low
• 4:26
  profile,
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  but
• 4:28
  as
• 4:28
  I
• 4:29
  said
• 4:29
  before,
• 4:29
  Willie
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  Stargel
• 4:30
  was
• 4:30
  one
• 4:30
  of
• 4:30
  the
• 4:31
  guys
• 4:31
  on
• 4:31
  the
• 4:31
  team.
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  I
• 4:32
  think
• 4:32
  he
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  won
• 4:33
  the
• 4:34
  MVP
• 4:35
  the
• 4:35
  year
• 4:35
  before.
• 4:36
  I
• 4:36
  got
• 4:36
  called
• 4:36
  up,
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  and
• 4:38
  he
• 4:38
  kind
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  of
• 4:39
  took
• 4:39
  me
• 4:39
  under
• 4:39
  his
• 4:40
  wing,
• 4:40
  knowing
• 4:40
  that
• 4:42
  I
• 4:42
  was
• 4:42
  the
• 4:42
  25th
• 4:43
  guy
• 4:43
  on
• 4:43
  the
• 4:44
  roster,
• 4:44
  and
• 4:44
  he.
• 4:45
  He
• 4:45
  wanted
• 4:45
  to
• 4:46
  have
• 4:46
  me
• 4:46
  try
• 4:46
  to
• 4:47
  fit
• 4:47
  in.
• 4:47
  You
• 4:47
  know,
• 4:47
  he'd
• 4:48
  take
• 4:48
  me
• 4:48
  down
• 4:48
  to
• 4:49
  the
• 4:49
  cage
• 4:49
  and
• 4:50
  make
• 4:50
  sure,
• 4:51
  you
• 4:51
  know,
• 4:51
  we
• 4:52
  would
• 4:52
  hit
• 4:52
  together.
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  And,
• 4:53
  God,
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  here
• 4:54
  I
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  am
• 4:54
  with
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  the
• 4:55
  best
• 4:55
  player
• 4:55
  in
• 4:55
  the
• 4:56
  whole
• 4:56
  major
• 4:57
  league,
• 4:57
  as
• 4:57
  far
• 4:58
  as
• 4:58
  I
• 4:58
  was
• 4:58
  concerned,
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  and
• 4:59
  he's
• 4:59
  taking
• 5:00
  care
• 5:00
  of
• 5:00
  me,
• 5:00
  and,
• 5:01
  you
• 5:01
  know,
• 5:02
  he
• 5:02
  would
• 5:02
  make
• 5:02
  sure
• 5:03
  that
• 5:03
  I
• 5:03
  hit
• 5:03
  first,
• 5:04
  you
• 5:04
  know,
• 5:04
  things
• 5:04
  like
• 5:05
  that.
• 5:05
  You
• 5:05
  know,
• 5:05
  he
• 5:05
  was
• 5:06
  just
• 5:06
  such
• 5:06
  a
• 5:06
  class
• 5:07
  guy
• 5:07
  and
• 5:08
  the
• 5:08
  best
• 5:08
  team
• 5:09
  leader
• 5:09
  I've
• 5:09
  ever
• 5:10
  been
• 5:10
  around.
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  Nice.
• 5:11
  That's
• 5:11
  the
• 5:11
  great
• 5:12
  Wilver
• 5:12
  Stargel,
• 5:13
  folks.
• 5:14
  Pittsburgh
• 5:15
  Pirate
• 5:15
  hall
• 5:15
  of
• 5:16
  Famer
• 5:16
  that
• 5:17
  Art
• 5:17
  speaks
• 5:18
  of.
• 5:18
  Now,
• 5:19
  not
• 5:19
  long
• 5:20
  after
• 5:20
  Art,
• 5:20
  they
• 5:20
  traded
• 5:21
  you
• 5:21
  to
• 5:21
  Houston
• 5:22
  for
• 5:23
  Tommy
• 5:23
  Helms.
• 5:24
  I
• 5:24
  don't
• 5:25
  remember
• 5:25
  Tommy
• 5:25
  Helms
• 5:26
  being
• 5:26
  with
• 5:26
  Pittsburgh,
• 5:27
  but
• 5:27
  I
• 5:27
  looked
• 5:27
  it
• 5:27
  up
• 5:28
  and
• 5:28
  he
• 5:28
  sure
• 5:28
  was.
• 5:29
  Yeah,
• 5:30
  he
• 5:30
  was
• 5:30
  there
• 5:30
  a
• 5:31
  year
• 5:31
  or
• 5:31
  two
• 5:31
  before
• 5:33
  he
• 5:33
  retired.
• 5:33
  I
• 5:34
  think
• 5:34
  probably
• 5:34
  after
• 5:35
  that.
• 5:36
  But
• 5:36
  when
• 5:36
  I
• 5:36
  went,
• 5:37
  it
• 5:37
  was
• 5:37
  a
• 5:37
  tough
• 5:37
  adjustment
• 5:38
  for
• 5:38
  me
• 5:39
  because
• 5:39
  the
• 5:40
  two
• 5:40
  years
• 5:41
  I
• 5:41
  spent
• 5:41
  with
• 5:41
  the
• 5:42
  Pirates
• 5:42
  in
• 5:42
  the
• 5:42
  big
• 5:42
  leagues,
• 5:43
  we
• 5:44
  won
• 5:44
  our
• 5:44
  division.
• 5:45
  And
• 5:45
  then
• 5:46
  I
• 5:46
  go
• 5:46
  to
• 5:46
  Houston.
• 5:47
  In
• 5:47
  the
• 5:47
  year
• 5:48
  before
• 5:48
  I
• 5:48
  went
• 5:49
  there,
• 5:49
  they
• 5:49
  lost
• 5:49
  105
• 5:50
  games.
• 5:52
  So
• 5:52
  I
• 5:53
  went
• 5:53
  from
• 5:53
  first
• 5:54
  place
• 5:54
  to
• 5:54
  last
• 5:54
  place.
• 5:55
  And
• 5:56
  it
• 5:57
  was
• 5:57
  a
• 5:57
  tough
• 5:57
  adjustment,
• 5:58
  to
• 5:58
  be
• 5:58
  honest
• 5:58
  with
• 5:58
  you.
• 5:59
  We're
• 5:59
  speaking
• 5:59
  with
• 6:00
  Art
• 6:00
  Howe
• 6:00
  tonight
• 6:00
  on
• 6:01
  Sports
• 6:01
  Talk.
• 6:01
  New
• 6:02
  York
• 6:03
  now
• 6:03
  with
• 6:03
  the
• 6:03
  Astros.
• 6:04
  Art,
• 6:04
  you
• 6:05
  played
• 6:05
  all
• 6:05
  four
• 6:05
  infield
• 6:06
  positions.
• 6:07
  Which.
• 6:08
  Which
• 6:09
  did
• 6:09
  you
• 6:09
  prefer?
• 6:12
  Well,
• 6:12
  I
• 6:13
  would
• 6:13
  say
• 6:13
  third
• 6:13
  base.
• 6:14
  I
• 6:14
  like
• 6:14
  third
• 6:15
  base
• 6:15
  the
• 6:15
  most.
• 6:16
  You
• 6:16
  know,
• 6:16
  the
• 6:16
  old
• 6:16
  hot
• 6:17
  corner
• 6:17
  as
• 6:17
  they
• 6:17
  say.
• 6:18
  But,
• 6:18
  you
• 6:19
  know,
• 6:19
  I
• 6:19
  played
• 6:19
  that
• 6:19
  in
• 6:19
  college.
• 6:20
  That's
• 6:21
  where
• 6:21
  I
• 6:21
  came
• 6:21
  out
• 6:21
  of
• 6:22
  college.
• 6:22
  I
• 6:22
  played
• 6:22
  shortstop
• 6:23
  when
• 6:24
  I
• 6:24
  was
• 6:24
  in
• 6:24
  high
• 6:24
  school
• 6:25
  on
• 6:25
  that.
• 6:25
  But
• 6:26
  I
• 6:26
  kind
• 6:27
  of
• 6:27
  like
• 6:27
  third
• 6:27
  base
• 6:28
  because
• 6:28
  I
• 6:28
  played
• 6:28
  there
• 6:29
  four
• 6:29
  years
• 6:29
  in
• 6:29
  Wyoming.
• 6:31
  Got
• 6:31
  used
• 6:31
  to
• 6:31
  it.
• 6:32
  And
• 6:32
  that's
• 6:33
  where
• 6:33
  I
• 6:33
  got
• 6:33
  to
• 6:33
  the
• 6:33
  big
• 6:34
  leagues
• 6:34
  with
• 6:34
  the
• 6:34
  Pirates
• 6:35
  playing
• 6:35
  third
• 6:35
  base
• 6:36
  and,
• 6:36
  and
• 6:37
  went
• 6:37
  over
• 6:37
  to
• 6:37
  Houston.
• 6:37
  And
• 6:38
  originally
• 6:39
  I
• 6:39
  played
• 6:39
  some
• 6:39
  third,
• 6:40
  me
• 6:40
  and
• 6:40
  Ray
• 6:41
  Knight.
• 6:41
  At
• 6:42
  some
• 6:42
  point,
• 6:43
  Ray
• 6:43
  got
• 6:43
  traded
• 6:44
  over
• 6:44
  to
• 6:44
  the
• 6:44
  Astros,
• 6:45
  and
• 6:45
  then
• 6:46
  that's
• 6:46
  when
• 6:46
  I
• 6:46
  went
• 6:46
  to
• 6:47
  first
• 6:47
  base
• 6:47
  start
• 6:48
  playing
• 6:48
  some
• 6:48
  first
• 6:49
  base.
• 6:49
  But
• 6:50
  I
• 6:50
  was
• 6:50
  played
• 6:50
  second
• 6:51
  originally.
• 6:51
  When
• 6:52
  I
• 6:52
  first
• 6:52
  started
• 6:52
  playing
• 6:53
  with
• 6:53
  the
• 6:53
  Astros,
• 6:54
  that
• 6:54
  was
• 6:54
  my
• 6:55
  first
• 6:55
  chance,
• 6:56
  you
• 6:56
  know.
• 6:56
  You
• 6:56
  know,
• 6:56
  to
• 6:56
  make
• 6:57
  the
• 6:57
  Astro
• 6:57
  team
• 6:58
  because
• 6:58
  I
• 6:59
  came
• 6:59
  up
• 6:59
  basically
• 7:00
  as
• 7:00
  a
• 7:00
  utility
• 7:01
  guy
• 7:01
  and
• 7:02
  finally
• 7:02
  got
• 7:02
  a
• 7:02
  chance
• 7:03
  to
• 7:03
  start
• 7:03
  playing
• 7:03
  on
• 7:03
  a
• 7:04
  regular
• 7:04
  basis.
• 7:05
  Understood.
• 7:06
  Now,
• 7:07
  in
• 7:07
  your
• 7:08
  playing
• 7:08
  career,
• 7:08
  Art,
• 7:09
  what
• 7:09
  would
• 7:09
  you
• 7:09
  say
• 7:10
  was
• 7:10
  the
• 7:11
  highlight?
• 7:13
  Oh,
• 7:13
  man.
• 7:15
  Well,
• 7:15
  first
• 7:15
  of
• 7:15
  all,
• 7:16
  just
• 7:16
  getting
• 7:16
  to
• 7:16
  the
• 7:16
  big
• 7:17
  leagues,
• 7:17
  I
• 7:17
  can't
• 7:18
  tell
• 7:18
  you
• 7:18
  what
• 7:18
  a
• 7:19
  thrill
• 7:19
  that
• 7:19
  was,
• 7:20
  you
• 7:21
  know,
• 7:21
  walking
• 7:21
  into
• 7:22
  a
• 7:22
  major
• 7:22
  league
• 7:22
  clubhouse
• 7:23
  for
• 7:23
  the
• 7:23
  first
• 7:23
  time.
• 7:24
  I
• 7:25
  don't
• 7:25
  care
• 7:25
  what
• 7:25
  you
• 7:25
  say.
• 7:26
  I
• 7:26
  mean,
• 7:26
  that's
• 7:26
  a
• 7:26
  huge
• 7:27
  moment
• 7:27
  in
• 7:27
  your
• 7:27
  life
• 7:29
  to
• 7:29
  finally
• 7:29
  make
• 7:30
  it,
• 7:30
  you
• 7:30
  know,
• 7:30
  to
• 7:31
  the
• 7:31
  show,
• 7:31
  as
• 7:31
  they
• 7:32
  say.
• 7:33
  But,
• 7:33
  you
• 7:33
  know,
• 7:34
  as
• 7:34
  a,
• 7:34
  as
• 7:35
  a
• 7:35
  player,
• 7:35
  it
• 7:35
  probably
• 7:36
  was
• 7:36
  game
• 7:36
  163
• 7:38
  against
• 7:38
  the
• 7:38
  Dodgers.
• 7:40
  The
• 7:40
  Astros
• 7:41
  had
• 7:41
  never
• 7:41
  won
• 7:41
  the
• 7:42
  division
• 7:42
  because
• 7:42
  we
• 7:43
  were
• 7:43
  stuck
• 7:44
  in
• 7:44
  the
• 7:44
  same
• 7:44
  division
• 7:45
  with
• 7:45
  the
• 7:45
  Dodgers
• 7:46
  when
• 7:46
  they
• 7:46
  were
• 7:46
  so
• 7:47
  powerful.
• 7:48
  And
• 7:49
  in
• 7:50
  1980,
• 7:51
  we
• 7:52
  finally
• 7:52
  pulled
• 7:52
  it
• 7:53
  off.
• 7:53
  I
• 7:53
  had
• 7:53
  a
• 7:53
  big
• 7:54
  day
• 7:54
  at
• 7:54
  the
• 7:55
  plate
• 7:55
  in
• 7:55
  game
• 7:56
  163,
• 7:57
  had
• 7:58
  three
• 7:58
  hits
• 7:58
  and
• 7:58
  hit
• 7:59
  a
• 7:59
  home
• 7:59
  run
• 7:59
  and
• 7:59
  drove
• 8:00
  in
• 8:00
  four
• 8:00
  runs.
• 8:01
  So
• 8:02
  as
• 8:02
  a
• 8:02
  player,
• 8:02
  that
• 8:02
  would
• 8:03
  probably
• 8:03
  be
• 8:03
  my
• 8:03
  highlight
• 8:05
  as
• 8:05
  a
• 8:06
  manager,
• 8:07
  it
• 8:07
  was
• 8:07
  probably
• 8:08
  winning
• 8:09
  the
• 8:09
  division
• 8:10
  for
• 8:11
  the
• 8:11
  A's.
• 8:13
  We
• 8:13
  finally,
• 8:14
  and
• 8:14
  I
• 8:14
  think
• 8:14
  it
• 8:14
  was
• 8:14
  year
• 8:15
  2000,
• 8:15
  we
• 8:16
  finally,
• 8:17
  you
• 8:17
  know,
• 8:18
  won
• 8:18
  the
• 8:19
  division
• 8:19
  there,
• 8:19
  winning
• 8:20
  over
• 8:20
  100
• 8:21
  games.
• 8:21
  So
• 8:23
  that
• 8:23
  was
• 8:23
  a
• 8:23
  thrill,
• 8:24
  you
• 8:24
  know,
• 8:24
  finally
• 8:25
  getting
• 8:25
  that
• 8:25
  done
• 8:26
  as
• 8:26
  a
• 8:26
  manager.
• 8:27
  When
• 8:27
  did
• 8:28
  you
• 8:28
  decide
• 8:28
  that
• 8:28
  you'd
• 8:29
  like
• 8:29
  to
• 8:30
  manage
• 8:30
  Hart?
• 8:32
  Well,
• 8:32
  believe
• 8:33
  it
• 8:33
  or
• 8:33
  not,
• 8:33
  as
• 8:33
  a
• 8:34
  player,
• 8:35
  I
• 8:35
  was
• 8:36
  managing
• 8:37
  in
• 8:37
  winter
• 8:37
  baseball.
• 8:38
  I
• 8:39
  was
• 8:39
  still
• 8:39
  playing
• 8:39
  in
• 8:39
  the
• 8:40
  big
• 8:40
  leagues
• 8:40
  with
• 8:40
  the
• 8:40
  Astros,
• 8:42
  but
• 8:43
  I
• 8:43
  went
• 8:43
  to
• 8:43
  Puerto
• 8:44
  Rico
• 8:44
  as
• 8:44
  a
• 8:44
  player.
• 8:45
  When
• 8:45
  I
• 8:45
  was
• 8:45
  with
• 8:46
  the
• 8:46
  Pirates
• 8:46
  early
• 8:47
  on,
• 8:47
  Jose
• 8:48
  Pagan
• 8:49
  was
• 8:49
  my
• 8:49
  manager
• 8:50
  in
• 8:50
  winter
• 8:50
  ball
• 8:51
  and
• 8:51
  he
• 8:51
  was
• 8:51
  a
• 8:51
  third
• 8:52
  base
• 8:52
  coach
• 8:52
  for
• 8:53
  the
• 8:53
  Pirates
• 8:53
  when
• 8:53
  I
• 8:54
  first
• 8:54
  came
• 8:54
  up.
• 8:55
  So
• 8:55
  Jose
• 8:56
  wanted
• 8:56
  me
• 8:56
  to,
• 8:56
  you
• 8:57
  know,
• 8:57
  come
• 8:57
  and
• 8:57
  play
• 8:57
  for
• 8:58
  him
• 8:58
  in,
• 8:58
  in
• 8:59
  Puerto
• 8:59
  Rico
• 8:59
  and,
• 9:00
  and
• 9:02
  get
• 9:03
  a
• 9:03
  chance
• 9:03
  to
• 9:03
  play
• 9:04
  for
• 9:04
  him,
• 9:04
  which
• 9:04
  was
• 9:04
  great.
• 9:05
  But
• 9:06
  that
• 9:06
  back
• 9:06
  then,
• 9:07
  I
• 9:07
  don't
• 9:07
  know
• 9:07
  if
• 9:07
  it
• 9:07
  still
• 9:08
  exists,
• 9:08
  you.
• 9:09
  You
• 9:09
  could
• 9:09
  only
• 9:09
  play
• 9:10
  for
• 9:10
  five
• 9:11
  years
• 9:11
  as
• 9:12
  an
• 9:12
  import.
• 9:13
  Well,
• 9:13
  I
• 9:14
  played
• 9:14
  Four
• 9:14
  years.
• 9:15
  In
• 9:15
  my
• 9:15
  fifth
• 9:16
  year,
• 9:16
  I
• 9:16
  broke
• 9:16
  my
• 9:16
  finger
• 9:17
  the
• 9:17
  last
• 9:18
  month
• 9:18
  of
• 9:18
  the
• 9:18
  season
• 9:20
  with
• 9:20
  the
• 9:20
  Astros,
• 9:21
  and
• 9:21
  I
• 9:21
  couldn't
• 9:21
  go
• 9:22
  play.
• 9:22
  So
• 9:22
  I
• 9:22
  missed
• 9:23
  that
• 9:23
  winner,
• 9:24
  and
• 9:24
  my
• 9:24
  eligibility
• 9:25
  went
• 9:26
  haywire,
• 9:27
  you
• 9:27
  know,
• 9:27
  went
• 9:28
  down
• 9:28
  the
• 9:28
  drain.
• 9:29
  But
• 9:29
  the
• 9:30
  GM
• 9:30
  who
• 9:31
  I
• 9:31
  played
• 9:31
  for,
• 9:32
  Roberto
• 9:32
  Inclin,
• 9:34
  he
• 9:34
  asked
• 9:34
  me,
• 9:34
  he
• 9:35
  said,
• 9:35
  art,
• 9:36
  you
• 9:36
  know,
• 9:36
  you
• 9:37
  know,
• 9:37
  this
• 9:37
  league,
• 9:38
  since
• 9:38
  you
• 9:38
  played
• 9:38
  here
• 9:39
  four
• 9:39
  years
• 9:39
  in
• 9:40
  a
• 9:40
  row,
• 9:41
  would
• 9:42
  you
• 9:42
  consider
• 9:42
  managing?
• 9:43
  Because,
• 9:43
  you
• 9:44
  know
• 9:44
  that
• 9:44
  the.
• 9:45
  You
• 9:45
  know,
• 9:45
  the
• 9:45
  native
• 9:46
  players
• 9:46
  so
• 9:47
  well,
• 9:48
  and,
• 9:49
  you
• 9:49
  know,
• 9:50
  would
• 9:50
  you
• 9:50
  like
• 9:50
  to,
• 9:51
  you
• 9:51
  know,
• 9:51
  take
• 9:51
  a
• 9:51
  shot
• 9:51
  at
• 9:52
  managing
• 9:52
  our
• 9:52
  club?
• 9:53
  And
• 9:54
  Jose,
• 9:54
  at
• 9:55
  that
• 9:55
  time,
• 9:55
  quit
• 9:55
  managing?
• 9:57
  So
• 9:57
  I
• 9:57
  said,
• 9:57
  sure,
• 9:58
  I'd
• 9:58
  love
• 9:59
  to,
• 9:59
  because
• 9:59
  I
• 10:00
  wanted
• 10:00
  to
• 10:00
  stay
• 10:01
  in
• 10:01
  the
• 10:01
  game
• 10:01
  and
• 10:02
  hopefully
• 10:02
  get
• 10:03
  a
• 10:03
  chance
• 10:03
  to
• 10:03
  manage
• 10:04
  someday.
• 10:04
  But
• 10:05
  I
• 10:05
  was
• 10:05
  thinking,
• 10:06
  you
• 10:06
  know,
• 10:06
  I
• 10:06
  was
• 10:07
  going
• 10:07
  to
• 10:07
  have
• 10:07
  to
• 10:07
  go
• 10:07
  down
• 10:08
  in
• 10:08
  the
• 10:08
  minor
• 10:08
  leagues,
• 10:09
  and
• 10:09
  who
• 10:09
  knows
• 10:10
  how
• 10:10
  long
• 10:10
  I'd
• 10:10
  be
• 10:11
  down
• 10:11
  there
• 10:12
  trying
• 10:12
  to
• 10:12
  work
• 10:12
  my
• 10:13
  way
• 10:13
  back
• 10:13
  to
• 10:13
  the
• 10:13
  big
• 10:14
  leagues
• 10:14
  as
• 10:14
  a
• 10:14
  manager.
• 10:15
  And
• 10:16
  I.
• 10:16
  I
• 10:16
  thought,
• 10:17
  well,
• 10:17
  if
• 10:17
  I
• 10:17
  can
• 10:17
  prove
• 10:18
  that
• 10:18
  I
• 10:18
  can
• 10:18
  manage
• 10:18
  a
• 10:19
  winter
• 10:19
  ball,
• 10:19
  because
• 10:20
  my
• 10:20
  manager
• 10:21
  at
• 10:21
  that
• 10:22
  time
• 10:22
  was
• 10:22
  Bill
• 10:22
  Verdon,
• 10:23
  who
• 10:23
  had
• 10:24
  managed
• 10:24
  in
• 10:24
  Puerto
• 10:25
  Rico
• 10:25
  at
• 10:25
  one
• 10:25
  time.
• 10:27
  So
• 10:27
  I
• 10:27
  asked
• 10:27
  Bill
• 10:28
  about
• 10:28
  it,
• 10:28
  and
• 10:28
  he
• 10:29
  says,
• 10:29
  yeah,
• 10:29
  you
• 10:30
  know,
• 10:30
  go
• 10:30
  for
• 10:30
  it.
• 10:30
  You
• 10:31
  know,
• 10:32
  it
• 10:32
  might
• 10:33
  help
• 10:33
  you
• 10:33
  get
• 10:33
  to
• 10:33
  the
• 10:34
  big
• 10:34
  leagues
• 10:34
  quickly
• 10:34
  as
• 10:35
  a
• 10:35
  manager.
• 10:35
  So
• 10:36
  I
• 10:36
  ended
• 10:36
  up
• 10:37
  managing,
• 10:37
  what,
• 10:38
  at
• 10:38
  least
• 10:38
  four
• 10:39
  years
• 10:39
  down
• 10:40
  there
• 10:40
  in
• 10:40
  Puerto
• 10:41
  Rico,
• 10:41
  and
• 10:41
  then
• 10:42
  a
• 10:42
  few
• 10:43
  years
• 10:43
  later,
• 10:43
  I
• 10:43
  went
• 10:44
  to
• 10:44
  the
• 10:44
  Dominican
• 10:45
  and
• 10:45
  won
• 10:45
  a
• 10:45
  championship
• 10:46
  there.
• 10:46
  So
• 10:47
  I
• 10:47
  made
• 10:47
  the
• 10:47
  playoffs
• 10:48
  every
• 10:48
  year
• 10:48
  except
• 10:49
  one
• 10:49
  year
• 10:49
  in
• 10:49
  Puerto
• 10:50
  Rico.
• 10:51
  And
• 10:52
  so
• 10:52
  I
• 10:52
  was
• 10:52
  pretty
• 10:53
  successful
• 10:53
  at
• 10:54
  it.
• 10:54
  But,
• 10:54
  you
• 10:55
  know,
• 10:55
  you
• 10:55
  have
• 10:55
  to
• 10:55
  have
• 10:55
  the
• 10:56
  players.
• 10:56
  You
• 10:56
  know,
• 10:56
  I
• 10:56
  don't
• 10:57
  care
• 10:57
  what
• 10:57
  you
• 10:57
  say.
• 10:58
  You
• 10:58
  could
• 10:58
  be
• 10:58
  Houdini.
• 11:00
  If
• 11:00
  you
• 11:00
  don't
• 11:01
  have
• 11:01
  the
• 11:01
  players,
• 11:01
  you
• 11:01
  can't
• 11:02
  win.
• 11:03
  But
• 11:03
  fortunately
• 11:04
  for
• 11:04
  me,
• 11:05
  we
• 11:05
  had
• 11:05
  some
• 11:06
  quality
• 11:06
  players.
• 11:07
  I
• 11:07
  had
• 11:07
  a
• 11:07
  lot
• 11:08
  of
• 11:08
  my
• 11:08
  ex.
• 11:09
  My
• 11:09
  own
• 11:10
  teammates
• 11:10
  play
• 11:11
  for
• 11:11
  me
• 11:11
  when
• 11:12
  I
• 11:12
  first
• 11:12
  started
• 11:12
  off
• 11:13
  in
• 11:13
  Puerto
• 11:14
  Rico
• 11:14
  because
• 11:15
  they
• 11:15
  had
• 11:15
  a
• 11:16
  working
• 11:16
  agreement
• 11:16
  with
• 11:17
  the
• 11:17
  Astros,
• 11:17
  and,
• 11:18
  like,
• 11:18
  Denny
• 11:19
  Walling
• 11:19
  came
• 11:20
  down
• 11:20
  and
• 11:20
  played
• 11:20
  for
• 11:21
  me.
• 11:21
  Dave
• 11:21
  Smith,
• 11:23
  Billy
• 11:24
  Smith,
• 11:25
  Frank
• 11:25
  LaCourdi.
• 11:26
  So
• 11:27
  I
• 11:27
  had
• 11:27
  a
• 11:27
  lot
• 11:27
  of
• 11:27
  teammates
• 11:28
  who
• 11:28
  actually
• 11:29
  played
• 11:29
  for
• 11:29
  me
• 11:31
  in
• 11:31
  winter
• 11:31
  ball,
• 11:31
  but
• 11:32
  then
• 11:32
  we
• 11:32
  were
• 11:32
  teammates
• 11:33
  when
• 11:33
  we
• 11:33
  came
• 11:33
  back
• 11:34
  for
• 11:34
  spring
• 11:34
  training.
• 11:35
  So
• 11:35
  that
• 11:35
  was
• 11:35
  a
• 11:35
  unique
• 11:36
  experience.
• 11:37
  Yeah,
• 11:37
  interesting
• 11:38
  art.
• 11:38
  Now,
• 11:39
  anybody
• 11:39
  along
• 11:40
  the
• 11:40
  way
• 11:41
  who
• 11:41
  may
• 11:41
  have
• 11:42
  influenced
• 11:43
  your
• 11:43
  managerial
• 11:44
  style?
• 11:45
  Well,
• 11:46
  I
• 11:46
  think
• 11:46
  all
• 11:46
  the
• 11:47
  managers
• 11:47
  I
• 11:47
  played
• 11:48
  for
• 11:48
  in
• 11:48
  some
• 11:49
  way,
• 11:49
  what
• 11:50
  I
• 11:50
  tried
• 11:50
  to
• 11:50
  do
• 11:51
  is
• 11:51
  take
• 11:52
  their
• 11:52
  strengths
• 11:53
  and
• 11:53
  their
• 11:53
  strong
• 11:54
  points
• 11:55
  and
• 11:55
  kind
• 11:55
  of
• 11:55
  incorporate
• 11:56
  that
• 11:56
  into
• 11:57
  my
• 11:57
  style
• 11:57
  of
• 11:58
  managing.
• 11:59
  So
• 11:59
  each
• 11:59
  of
• 12:00
  them
• 12:00
  had
• 12:01
  strengths.
• 12:02
  And
• 12:02
  obviously,
• 12:03
  we're
• 12:04
  all
• 12:04
  human.
• 12:04
  We
• 12:05
  have.
• 12:05
  We
• 12:06
  make
• 12:06
  some
• 12:07
  mistakes
• 12:07
  along
• 12:07
  the
• 12:07
  way,
• 12:08
  and
• 12:08
  I
• 12:09
  knew
• 12:09
  some
• 12:09
  of
• 12:10
  theirs
• 12:10
  the
• 12:10
  way,
• 12:11
  you
• 12:11
  know,
• 12:11
  the
• 12:12
  players
• 12:12
  you
• 12:12
  know,
• 12:12
  we
• 12:12
  talk,
• 12:13
  they
• 12:13
  what
• 12:13
  the
• 12:14
  heck
• 12:14
  is
• 12:14
  he
• 12:14
  doing
• 12:14
  this?
• 12:15
  So
• 12:15
  I
• 12:16
  tried
• 12:16
  to
• 12:16
  learn
• 12:16
  from
• 12:16
  that
• 12:17
  and
• 12:17
  like
• 12:18
  I
• 12:18
  said,
• 12:18
  put
• 12:19
  whatever
• 12:20
  strength
• 12:20
  they
• 12:20
  had
• 12:21
  and
• 12:22
  incorporate
• 12:22
  that.
• 12:23
  And
• 12:23
  more
• 12:24
  than
• 12:24
  anything,
• 12:25
  just
• 12:25
  remember
• 12:26
  as
• 12:27
  a
• 12:27
  player,
• 12:28
  you
• 12:28
  got
• 12:28
  to
• 12:28
  be
• 12:28
  on
• 12:28
  the
• 12:29
  player's
• 12:29
  side.
• 12:30
  You
• 12:30
  gotta
• 12:31
  build
• 12:32
  confidence
• 12:32
  in
• 12:32
  them
• 12:33
  that,
• 12:33
  you
• 12:33
  know,
• 12:34
  you
• 12:34
  respect
• 12:34
  them
• 12:35
  and
• 12:35
  there's
• 12:35
  a
• 12:35
  respect
• 12:36
  back.
• 12:36
  And
• 12:37
  I
• 12:37
  think
• 12:38
  the
• 12:38
  fact
• 12:38
  that
• 12:38
  I
• 12:38
  played
• 12:40
  and
• 12:40
  then
• 12:40
  I
• 12:40
  coached
• 12:41
  also
• 12:41
  before
• 12:41
  I
• 12:42
  actually
• 12:42
  got
• 12:42
  to
• 12:43
  manage
• 12:43
  in
• 12:43
  the
• 12:43
  big
• 12:44
  leagues,
• 12:44
  I
• 12:45
  think
• 12:45
  that
• 12:45
  went
• 12:45
  a
• 12:45
  long
• 12:46
  way
• 12:46
  for
• 12:46
  me.
• 12:47
  Hopefully
• 12:47
  my
• 12:48
  reputation
• 12:48
  as
• 12:49
  a
• 12:49
  player
• 12:49
  who
• 12:50
  plays
• 12:50
  as
• 12:51
  a
• 12:51
  team
• 12:52
  guy
• 12:53
  and
• 12:53
  would
• 12:54
  do
• 12:54
  anything,
• 12:54
  you
• 12:55
  know,
• 12:55
  to
• 12:55
  help
• 12:55
  the
• 12:55
  team
• 12:56
  win,
• 12:56
  I
• 12:57
  think
• 12:57
  that
• 12:57
  went
• 12:57
  a
• 12:57
  long
• 12:58
  way
• 12:58
  for
• 12:58
  me
• 12:58
  to
• 12:59
  be
• 12:59
  successful.
• 13:00
  Art
• 13:00
  Howell
• 13:01
  with
• 13:01
  us
• 13:01
  tonight
• 13:01
  on
• 13:01
  Sports
• 13:02
  Talk
• 13:02
  New
• 13:02
  York.
• 13:03
  Now,
• 13:03
  you
• 13:03
  were
• 13:04
  an
• 13:04
  assistant
• 13:04
  to
• 13:04
  Bobby
• 13:05
  Valentine
• 13:06
  in
• 13:06
  Texas
• 13:07
  when
• 13:07
  you
• 13:07
  retired.
• 13:09
  How
• 13:09
  was
• 13:09
  it
• 13:09
  working
• 13:10
  with
• 13:10
  Bobby?
• 13:11
  He's
• 13:11
  going
• 13:11
  to
• 13:11
  be
• 13:13
  inducted
• 13:13
  into
• 13:14
  the
• 13:14
  Mets
• 13:14
  hall
• 13:14
  of
• 13:14
  Fame
• 13:15
  this
• 13:15
  summer
• 13:15
  up
• 13:16
  here.
• 13:17
  As
• 13:17
  well
• 13:17
  he
• 13:18
  should.
• 13:19
  Bobby
• 13:19
  was
• 13:19
  great.
• 13:20
  I
• 13:21
  thank
• 13:21
  Bobby
• 13:21
  for
• 13:22
  giving
• 13:22
  me
• 13:22
  my
• 13:22
  first
• 13:22
  coaching
• 13:23
  job.
• 13:24
  He
• 13:24
  was
• 13:25
  coaching,
• 13:26
  think
• 13:26
  for
• 13:26
  the
• 13:26
  Mets
• 13:27
  at
• 13:27
  third
• 13:27
  base
• 13:28
  at
• 13:28
  the
• 13:28
  time.
• 13:30
  And
• 13:30
  I
• 13:31
  was
• 13:31
  winding
• 13:32
  down
• 13:32
  my
• 13:32
  playing
• 13:33
  career.
• 13:34
  Obviously,
• 13:35
  I
• 13:35
  was
• 13:35
  39
• 13:36
  years
• 13:36
  old
• 13:37
  and
• 13:37
  I
• 13:37
  was
• 13:37
  playing
• 13:38
  third
• 13:38
  base
• 13:38
  for
• 13:39
  the
• 13:39
  Astros
• 13:40
  and
• 13:41
  actually
• 13:41
  for
• 13:41
  the
• 13:42
  Cardinals
• 13:42
  probably
• 13:43
  by
• 13:43
  then.
• 13:44
  And,
• 13:45
  you
• 13:45
  know,
• 13:46
  we
• 13:46
  would
• 13:46
  talk
• 13:46
  between
• 13:47
  innings
• 13:47
  because
• 13:47
  he
• 13:48
  was
• 13:48
  a
• 13:48
  third
• 13:48
  base
• 13:48
  coach.
• 13:50
  And
• 13:50
  I
• 13:51
  guess
• 13:51
  I
• 13:51
  said
• 13:51
  some
• 13:52
  things
• 13:52
  he
• 13:52
  liked
• 13:53
  because
• 13:55
  I
• 13:55
  know
• 13:55
  Sooner
• 13:56
  was
• 13:57
  let
• 13:57
  go
• 13:58
  by
• 13:58
  the
• 13:58
  Cardinals.
• 14:00
  Within
• 14:00
  a
• 14:00
  month,
• 14:00
  I
• 14:01
  got
• 14:01
  a
• 14:01
  phone
• 14:01
  call
• 14:01
  from
• 14:02
  Bobby.
• 14:02
  That's
• 14:02
  when
• 14:02
  he
• 14:03
  got
• 14:03
  his
• 14:03
  opportunity
• 14:04
  with
• 14:04
  the
• 14:05
  Mets,
• 14:06
  I
• 14:06
  mean,
• 14:06
  with
• 14:07
  the
• 14:07
  Texas
• 14:07
  Rangers.
• 14:08
  And
• 14:09
  he
• 14:09
  asked
• 14:09
  me
• 14:09
  if
• 14:10
  I
• 14:10
  was
• 14:10
  finished
• 14:10
  playing.
• 14:12
  And
• 14:12
  I
• 14:12
  said,
• 14:13
  as
• 14:13
  much
• 14:13
  as
• 14:14
  I
• 14:14
  wish
• 14:14
  I
• 14:15
  wasn't,
• 14:16
  I
• 14:16
  think,
• 14:16
  yes,
• 14:17
  definitely,
• 14:17
  I'm
• 14:17
  done.
• 14:19
  Yeah,
• 14:20
  I
• 14:20
  guess
• 14:21
  you
• 14:21
  guys,
• 14:21
  he
• 14:21
  felt.
• 14:22
  Good,
• 14:22
  because
• 14:22
  I'd
• 14:23
  like
• 14:23
  to
• 14:23
  hire
• 14:23
  you
• 14:23
  as
• 14:24
  my
• 14:24
  coach.
• 14:25
  Yeah.
• 14:26
  And
• 14:27
  what
• 14:27
  an
• 14:27
  opportunity.
• 14:28
  And
• 14:29
  when
• 14:29
  you
• 14:29
  got
• 14:29
  the
• 14:30
  Astros
• 14:30
  job,
• 14:31
  Art,
• 14:32
  you
• 14:32
  had
• 14:32
  guys
• 14:33
  like,
• 14:33
  well,
• 14:34
  future
• 14:34
  hall
• 14:34
  of
• 14:34
  Famers,
• 14:35
  the
• 14:35
  Killer
• 14:35
  Bees,
• 14:36
  Bijio
• 14:36
  and
• 14:36
  Bagwell.
• 14:37
  Tell
• 14:38
  us
• 14:38
  a
• 14:38
  little
• 14:38
  bit
• 14:38
  about
• 14:38
  those
• 14:39
  guys
• 14:39
  when
• 14:40
  they
• 14:40
  first
• 14:41
  hit
• 14:41
  the
• 14:41
  majors.
• 14:43
  Well,
• 14:44
  first
• 14:44
  of
• 14:44
  all,
• 14:45
  you
• 14:45
  know,
• 14:46
  they
• 14:46
  were
• 14:46
  both
• 14:46
  great
• 14:46
  athletes.
• 14:47
  We
• 14:48
  actually
• 14:48
  traded
• 14:49
  for
• 14:49
  Bagwell
• 14:50
  my
• 14:51
  second
• 14:51
  or
• 14:52
  third
• 14:52
  year.
• 14:52
  I
• 14:52
  was
• 14:53
  with
• 14:53
  the
• 14:53
  Astros.
• 14:55
  Bill
• 14:56
  Wood
• 14:56
  was
• 14:56
  a
• 14:57
  general
• 14:57
  manager
• 14:57
  at
• 14:57
  the
• 14:58
  time.
• 14:59
  And
• 14:59
  we
• 14:59
  traded,
• 15:01
  I
• 15:01
  think
• 15:01
  it
• 15:01
  was
• 15:01
  Larry
• 15:02
  Anderson
• 15:03
  for
• 15:03
  him
• 15:04
  and
• 15:04
  la,
• 15:05
  he
• 15:05
  was
• 15:06
  a
• 15:06
  good
• 15:06
  setup
• 15:06
  band
• 15:07
  for
• 15:07
  us.
• 15:07
  But
• 15:08
  so
• 15:09
  we
• 15:10
  didn't
• 15:10
  know
• 15:10
  anything
• 15:10
  really
• 15:11
  about
• 15:11
  Bagwell.
• 15:12
  We
• 15:12
  got
• 15:12
  him
• 15:12
  out
• 15:12
  of
• 15:12
  the
• 15:12
  Boston
• 15:13
  organization.
• 15:13
  He
• 15:14
  was
• 15:15
  aaa,
• 15:16
  and
• 15:16
  when
• 15:17
  he
• 15:17
  came
• 15:17
  over,
• 15:18
  we
• 15:18
  had
• 15:18
  Ken
• 15:18
  Caminetti
• 15:20
  as
• 15:20
  our
• 15:20
  third
• 15:20
  baseman.
• 15:21
  And
• 15:21
  that's
• 15:21
  what
• 15:21
  Bagwell
• 15:22
  was
• 15:23
  in
• 15:23
  the
• 15:23
  minor
• 15:24
  leagues.
• 15:24
  He
• 15:24
  was
• 15:24
  a
• 15:24
  third
• 15:25
  Baseman.
• 15:26
  And
• 15:26
  we
• 15:27
  had
• 15:27
  Louis
• 15:28
  Gonzalez
• 15:29
  also
• 15:29
  as
• 15:30
  a
• 15:30
  third
• 15:30
  baseman
• 15:30
  on
• 15:31
  the
• 15:31
  club.
• 15:32
  So
• 15:32
  I
• 15:32
  have
• 15:32
  all
• 15:33
  three
• 15:33
  of
• 15:33
  these
• 15:33
  guys
• 15:34
  trying
• 15:34
  out
• 15:34
  in
• 15:35
  spring
• 15:35
  training.
• 15:36
  And
• 15:37
  as
• 15:38
  you
• 15:38
  know,
• 15:38
  Cam
• 15:38
  and
• 15:38
  Eddie
• 15:39
  had
• 15:39
  a
• 15:39
  cannon
• 15:39
  for
• 15:40
  third.
• 15:40
  Oh
• 15:41
  yeah,
• 15:41
  for
• 15:41
  an
• 15:41
  army.
• 15:42
  And
• 15:43
  I'm
• 15:44
  seeing
• 15:44
  Bagwell
• 15:45
  getting
• 15:45
  two
• 15:46
  hits
• 15:46
  in
• 15:46
  every
• 15:46
  game
• 15:47
  that
• 15:47
  I
• 15:47
  would
• 15:47
  play
• 15:47
  him
• 15:48
  because
• 15:49
  I
• 15:49
  couldn't
• 15:49
  play
• 15:49
  them
• 15:49
  at
• 15:50
  the
• 15:50
  same
• 15:50
  time.
• 15:51
  And
• 15:51
  the
• 15:51
  same
• 15:51
  with
• 15:52
  Louie.
• 15:52
  Louie's
• 15:52
  a
• 15:53
  left
• 15:53
  handed
• 15:53
  hitter
• 15:53
  and
• 15:54
  he's
• 15:54
  having
• 15:54
  a
• 15:54
  good
• 15:55
  spring.
• 15:55
  And
• 15:55
  I'm
• 15:55
  thinking,
• 15:56
  God,
• 15:57
  I
• 15:57
  gotta
• 15:57
  figure
• 15:58
  out
• 15:58
  how
• 15:58
  to
• 15:58
  get
• 15:58
  all
• 15:59
  three
• 15:59
  of
• 15:59
  these
• 15:59
  guys
• 16:00
  on
• 16:01
  the
• 16:01
  field
• 16:01
  at
• 16:01
  the
• 16:01
  same
• 16:02
  time.
• 16:02
  We
• 16:03
  need
• 16:03
  them
• 16:03
  all.
• 16:03
  Yeah.
• 16:04
  And
• 16:04
  so
• 16:04
  that's
• 16:05
  when
• 16:05
  I
• 16:05
  moved
• 16:05
  Bagwell
• 16:06
  to
• 16:06
  first
• 16:06
  and
• 16:07
  moved
• 16:07
  Louie
• 16:07
  Gonzalez
• 16:08
  to
• 16:08
  left
• 16:08
  field
• 16:10
  and
• 16:10
  the
• 16:10
  rest
• 16:11
  is
• 16:11
  history
• 16:12
  because
• 16:12
  they,
• 16:12
  all
• 16:13
  three
• 16:13
  of
• 16:13
  them
• 16:14
  were
• 16:14
  outstanding
• 16:15
  players.
• 16:16
  Biggio,
• 16:17
  on
• 16:17
  the
• 16:17
  other
• 16:18
  hand,
• 16:18
  when
• 16:18
  I
• 16:19
  came
• 16:19
  to
• 16:19
  the
• 16:20
  Astros,
• 16:20
  he
• 16:20
  was
• 16:21
  a
• 16:21
  young
• 16:22
  catcher
• 16:22
  on
• 16:23
  the
• 16:23
  team
• 16:24
  and
• 16:26
  you
• 16:26
  know,
• 16:26
  he
• 16:26
  was,
• 16:27
  he
• 16:27
  wasn't
• 16:28
  a
• 16:28
  big
• 16:28
  kid.
• 16:29
  And
• 16:29
  back
• 16:29
  then,
• 16:31
  you
• 16:31
  know,
• 16:31
  players
• 16:31
  could
• 16:32
  run
• 16:32
  the
• 16:32
  catcher
• 16:32
  over
• 16:33
  at
• 16:33
  home
• 16:33
  plate
• 16:33
  if
• 16:34
  they
• 16:34
  wanted
• 16:34
  to.
• 16:34
  Right,
• 16:35
  right.
• 16:36
  And
• 16:36
  Dave
• 16:36
  Parker
• 16:37
  was
• 16:37
  kind
• 16:37
  of
• 16:37
  notorious
• 16:38
  for
• 16:38
  that.
• 16:39
  And
• 16:40
  we
• 16:40
  had
• 16:40
  to
• 16:40
  play
• 16:41
  those
• 16:41
  guys
• 16:41
  a
• 16:41
  lot.
• 16:42
  And
• 16:44
  as
• 16:44
  things
• 16:44
  turned
• 16:45
  out,
• 16:45
  you
• 16:45
  know,
• 16:45
  Biz
• 16:45
  really
• 16:46
  didn't
• 16:46
  have
• 16:46
  a
• 16:46
  cannon
• 16:47
  for
• 16:47
  an
• 16:47
  arm.
• 16:47
  What
• 16:47
  he
• 16:48
  relied
• 16:48
  on
• 16:49
  was
• 16:49
  his
• 16:49
  quick
• 16:50
  release
• 16:50
  at,
• 16:51
  you
• 16:51
  know,
• 16:51
  throwing
• 16:52
  guys
• 16:52
  out
• 16:52
  at
• 16:52
  second.
• 16:53
  But
• 16:54
  I
• 16:54
  just.
• 16:54
  And
• 16:55
  my
• 16:55
  problem
• 16:56
  with
• 16:56
  Bidge
• 16:56
  was
• 16:57
  he
• 16:57
  was
• 16:57
  really
• 16:58
  a
• 16:59
  great
• 16:59
  athlete.
• 16:59
  He
• 16:59
  could
• 16:59
  really
• 17:00
  run,
• 17:01
  he
• 17:01
  could
• 17:01
  steal
• 17:01
  bases.
• 17:03
  But
• 17:03
  by
• 17:03
  mid
• 17:03
  season,
• 17:04
  his
• 17:04
  legs
• 17:05
  were
• 17:05
  so
• 17:05
  heavy
• 17:06
  from
• 17:06
  squatting
• 17:07
  behind
• 17:07
  the
• 17:08
  plate
• 17:09
  that
• 17:09
  he
• 17:09
  quit
• 17:10
  stealing
• 17:10
  bases,
• 17:11
  you
• 17:11
  know,
• 17:11
  and
• 17:11
  that
• 17:11
  hurt
• 17:12
  the
• 17:12
  team.
• 17:12
  In
• 17:13
  my
• 17:13
  viewpoint,
• 17:14
  we
• 17:14
  needed
• 17:15
  him
• 17:15
  to
• 17:15
  continue
• 17:15
  to
• 17:16
  steal
• 17:16
  bases.
• 17:17
  So
• 17:18
  I
• 17:18
  talked
• 17:18
  things
• 17:18
  over
• 17:19
  with
• 17:19
  Matt
• 17:19
  Galante
• 17:20
  and
• 17:20
  you
• 17:21
  know,
• 17:21
  during
• 17:21
  batting
• 17:22
  practice,
• 17:22
  Bid,
• 17:23
  you
• 17:23
  would
• 17:23
  be
• 17:23
  out
• 17:23
  at
• 17:23
  shortstop
• 17:24
  with
• 17:24
  his,
• 17:25
  with
• 17:25
  his
• 17:25
  catcher's
• 17:26
  mitt
• 17:26
  on
• 17:26
  and
• 17:27
  he's
• 17:27
  catching
• 17:27
  ground
• 17:28
  balls
• 17:29
  off
• 17:29
  the
• 17:29
  bat
• 17:29
  off
• 17:29
  a
• 17:30
  live
• 17:30
  guys
• 17:31
  hitting
• 17:31
  balls
• 17:32
  as
• 17:32
  well
• 17:32
  as
• 17:32
  guys
• 17:33
  with
• 17:33
  infield
• 17:33
  gloves.
• 17:34
  And
• 17:34
  I'm
• 17:35
  thinking,
• 17:35
  geez,
• 17:36
  you
• 17:36
  know,
• 17:37
  where
• 17:37
  can
• 17:38
  I
• 17:38
  get
• 17:38
  this
• 17:38
  guy
• 17:38
  in
• 17:38
  the
• 17:39
  infield?
• 17:39
  And
• 17:40
  sure
• 17:40
  enough,
• 17:40
  second
• 17:41
  base
• 17:41
  was
• 17:41
  a
• 17:41
  spot
• 17:42
  I
• 17:42
  thought
• 17:42
  would
• 17:43
  be
• 17:43
  perfect
• 17:43
  for
• 17:44
  him.
• 17:45
  And
• 17:45
  as
• 17:46
  they
• 17:46
  say,
• 17:46
  history
• 17:47
  shows.
• 17:48
  I
• 17:48
  guess
• 17:48
  I
• 17:48
  made
• 17:48
  a
• 17:49
  right
• 17:49
  decision
• 17:49
  there
• 17:50
  because
• 17:50
  he's
• 17:51
  a
• 17:51
  Hall
• 17:51
  of
• 17:51
  Famer.
• 17:52
  Right?
• 17:52
  And
• 17:53
  they
• 17:53
  both
• 17:53
  are
• 17:53
  hall
• 17:53
  of
• 17:54
  Famer.
• 17:55
  They
• 17:55
  both
• 17:55
  went
• 17:55
  on
• 17:56
  to
• 17:56
  have
• 17:56
  amazing
• 17:56
  careers.
• 17:57
  And
• 17:57
  as
• 17:57
  you
• 17:58
  say,
• 17:58
  Art,
• 17:58
  they're
• 17:59
  in
• 17:59
  Cooperstown
• 18:00
  now.
• 18:00
  And
• 18:02
  all
• 18:02
  due
• 18:03
  to
• 18:04
  you
• 18:04
  guys
• 18:04
  in
• 18:04
  Houston.
• 18:06
  Now,
• 18:06
  when
• 18:06
  you
• 18:06
  moved
• 18:07
  on
• 18:07
  to
• 18:07
  Oakland,
• 18:08
  Art,
• 18:08
  did
• 18:09
  you
• 18:09
  feel
• 18:09
  a
• 18:10
  little
• 18:10
  intimidated?
• 18:11
  You're
• 18:11
  replacing
• 18:12
  hall
• 18:12
  of
• 18:12
  Famer
• 18:13
  Tony
• 18:13
  La
• 18:13
  Russa
• 18:14
  out
• 18:14
  there.
• 18:15
  What
• 18:15
  were
• 18:15
  your
• 18:15
  thoughts?
• 18:17
  Well,
• 18:17
  first
• 18:17
  of
• 18:18
  all,
• 18:18
  what
• 18:18
  Helped
• 18:18
  me
• 18:19
  was
• 18:19
  I
• 18:20
  played
• 18:20
  AAA
• 18:20
  ball
• 18:21
  with
• 18:21
  Tony
• 18:23
  in
• 18:23
  the
• 18:23
  Pirate
• 18:24
  organization.
• 18:24
  We
• 18:24
  were
• 18:25
  both
• 18:25
  in
• 18:25
  Charleston
• 18:26
  West
• 18:26
  Virgin.
• 18:28
  So
• 18:28
  I
• 18:28
  knew
• 18:28
  Tony
• 18:28
  personally.
• 18:29
  I
• 18:29
  knew
• 18:29
  what
• 18:30
  kind
• 18:30
  of
• 18:30
  guy
• 18:30
  he
• 18:30
  was,
• 18:31
  great
• 18:31
  guy,
• 18:32
  you
• 18:32
  know,
• 18:33
  so
• 18:33
  that
• 18:33
  kind
• 18:33
  of
• 18:33
  made
• 18:34
  things
• 18:34
  a
• 18:34
  little
• 18:34
  easier.
• 18:35
  Plus,
• 18:36
  I
• 18:36
  went
• 18:36
  to
• 18:36
  spring
• 18:37
  training
• 18:37
  for
• 18:37
  Tony
• 18:38
  when
• 18:38
  he
• 18:38
  was
• 18:38
  with
• 18:38
  the
• 18:38
  White
• 18:39
  Sox
• 18:39
  right
• 18:40
  at
• 18:40
  the
• 18:40
  end
• 18:40
  of
• 18:40
  my
• 18:40
  career
• 18:41
  before
• 18:42
  the
• 18:42
  Cardinals
• 18:43
  picked
• 18:43
  me
• 18:43
  up
• 18:43
  out
• 18:43
  of
• 18:43
  spring
• 18:44
  training.
• 18:44
  People
• 18:45
  don't
• 18:45
  know
• 18:45
  that
• 18:46
  I
• 18:46
  was
• 18:46
  with
• 18:46
  the
• 18:46
  White
• 18:47
  Sox
• 18:48
  in
• 18:48
  spring
• 18:49
  training
• 18:49
  and
• 18:49
  that's
• 18:49
  how
• 18:49
  I
• 18:50
  got
• 18:50
  to
• 18:50
  St.
• 18:50
  Louis.
• 18:51
  I
• 18:52
  was
• 18:52
  traded
• 18:52
  from
• 18:52
  the
• 18:53
  White
• 18:53
  Sox
• 18:54
  during
• 18:54
  spring
• 18:54
  training
• 18:55
  to
• 18:55
  St.
• 18:55
  Louis
• 18:56
  and
• 18:56
  Tony
• 18:58
  helped
• 18:58
  me
• 18:58
  out
• 18:59
  by
• 18:59
  doing
• 18:59
  that
• 18:59
  because
• 19:00
  I
• 19:00
  wasn't
• 19:01
  going
• 19:01
  to
• 19:01
  make
• 19:01
  the
• 19:01
  White
• 19:01
  Sox
• 19:02
  team,
• 19:02
  as
• 19:02
  it
• 19:03
  turned
• 19:03
  out.
• 19:04
  So,
• 19:05
  you
• 19:05
  know,
• 19:05
  so
• 19:05
  I
• 19:06
  owed
• 19:06
  a
• 19:06
  lot
• 19:06
  to
• 19:06
  Tony.
• 19:07
  But
• 19:07
  I
• 19:07
  knew
• 19:07
  Tony
• 19:08
  well
• 19:09
  and,
• 19:09
  you
• 19:10
  know,
• 19:10
  so
• 19:10
  that
• 19:10
  kind
• 19:10
  of
• 19:11
  made
• 19:11
  things
• 19:11
  a
• 19:11
  little
• 19:11
  easier.
• 19:12
  But
• 19:12
  I
• 19:12
  knew,
• 19:13
  hey,
• 19:14
  you
• 19:14
  know,
• 19:14
  he
• 19:14
  did
• 19:14
  a
• 19:15
  great
• 19:15
  job
• 19:15
  obviously
• 19:16
  in
• 19:16
  Oakland.
• 19:17
  And
• 19:18
  when
• 19:18
  you're
• 19:18
  going
• 19:18
  in
• 19:19
  to
• 19:19
  fill
• 19:19
  in
• 19:19
  big
• 19:19
  shoes,
• 19:21
  you
• 19:21
  just
• 19:21
  do
• 19:21
  the
• 19:21
  best
• 19:21
  you
• 19:22
  can,
• 19:22
  you
• 19:22
  know,
• 19:22
  that's
• 19:23
  all
• 19:23
  you
• 19:23
  can
• 19:23
  do.
• 19:23
  And
• 19:24
  slowly
• 19:25
  but
• 19:25
  surely,
• 19:25
  you
• 19:26
  know,
• 19:26
  I
• 19:26
  knew
• 19:27
  we
• 19:27
  were
• 19:27
  going
• 19:28
  into
• 19:28
  a
• 19:28
  rebuilding
• 19:29
  situation
• 19:29
  there
• 19:30
  and
• 19:32
  slowly
• 19:32
  but
• 19:32
  surely
• 19:33
  we
• 19:33
  did
• 19:33
  that
• 19:33
  and
• 19:34
  became
• 19:35
  a
• 19:35
  pretty
• 19:35
  good
• 19:35
  club
• 19:36
  by
• 19:36
  the
• 19:36
  time
• 19:36
  I
• 19:36
  left.
• 19:37
  You
• 19:37
  did.
• 19:37
  We're
• 19:38
  speaking
• 19:38
  with
• 19:38
  Art
• 19:38
  how
• 19:39
  tonight
• 19:39
  on
• 19:39
  Sports
• 19:40
  Talk
• 19:40
  New
• 19:40
  York
• 19:41
  now,
• 19:41
  the
• 19:41
  movie
• 19:42
  Moneyball.
• 19:42
  Art,
• 19:43
  Philip
• 19:43
  Seymour
• 19:44
  Hoffman
• 19:44
  portrays
• 19:45
  you
• 19:45
  in
• 19:45
  the
• 19:45
  movie.
• 19:47
  You
• 19:47
  were
• 19:47
  unhappy
• 19:48
  with
• 19:48
  the
• 19:49
  way
• 19:49
  you
• 19:49
  were
• 19:49
  portrayed
• 19:50
  in
• 19:50
  this
• 19:50
  film,
• 19:51
  Correct?
• 19:52
  Correct.
• 19:53
  Yeah.
• 19:54
  Tell
• 19:54
  us
• 19:54
  a
• 19:54
  little
• 19:54
  bit
• 19:55
  about
• 19:55
  your
• 19:55
  feelings
• 19:56
  about
• 19:57
  the
• 19:57
  way
• 19:57
  Hoffman
• 19:58
  portrayed
• 19:59
  you
• 19:59
  and
• 19:59
  the
• 19:59
  way
• 20:00
  you
• 20:01
  were
• 20:01
  brought
• 20:01
  out
• 20:01
  in
• 20:02
  the
• 20:02
  movie.
• 20:03
  It
• 20:03
  was
• 20:03
  not
• 20:04
  flattering
• 20:04
  to
• 20:05
  say
• 20:05
  the
• 20:05
  least.
• 20:07
  Correct.
• 20:08
  Well,
• 20:09
  the
• 20:09
  thing
• 20:09
  I
• 20:10
  learned
• 20:10
  about
• 20:11
  that
• 20:11
  movie
• 20:12
  was
• 20:12
  when.
• 20:12
  When
• 20:13
  they
• 20:13
  say
• 20:13
  something
• 20:14
  is
• 20:14
  based
• 20:14
  on
• 20:14
  a
• 20:15
  true
• 20:15
  story,
• 20:16
  it's
• 20:16
  very
• 20:17
  loosely
• 20:17
  based
• 20:18
  on
• 20:18
  it.
• 20:18
  Okay.
• 20:19
  Ye.
• 20:21
  That's
• 20:21
  probably
• 20:21
  the
• 20:21
  nicest
• 20:22
  way
• 20:22
  I
• 20:22
  can
• 20:22
  put
• 20:22
  it.
• 20:24
  Probably
• 20:24
  one
• 20:24
  of,
• 20:25
  or
• 20:25
  some
• 20:26
  of
• 20:26
  the
• 20:27
  few
• 20:27
  true
• 20:27
  things
• 20:28
  about
• 20:28
  it
• 20:28
  was
• 20:29
  we
• 20:29
  did
• 20:29
  win
• 20:29
  20
• 20:30
  in
• 20:30
  a
• 20:30
  row
• 20:31
  and
• 20:31
  Scott
• 20:31
  Hatterberg
• 20:32
  did
• 20:32
  pinch
• 20:33
  it
• 20:33
  and
• 20:33
  hit
• 20:33
  the
• 20:33
  home
• 20:34
  run
• 20:34
  to
• 20:34
  win
• 20:35
  the
• 20:35
  final
• 20:35
  game
• 20:35
  for
• 20:36
  us.
• 20:36
  But
• 20:37
  I
• 20:37
  have
• 20:38
  some
• 20:38
  problems
• 20:38
  with
• 20:38
  the
• 20:39
  movie
• 20:39
  because
• 20:39
  first
• 20:40
  of
• 20:40
  all,
• 20:40
  obviously
• 20:41
  if
• 20:42
  you
• 20:42
  ask
• 20:42
  any
• 20:42
  of
• 20:42
  the
• 20:43
  players
• 20:43
  that
• 20:43
  played
• 20:43
  for
• 20:44
  me,
• 20:44
  that's
• 20:44
  not
• 20:44
  the
• 20:45
  way
• 20:45
  I
• 20:45
  was.
• 20:45
  And
• 20:46
  that
• 20:46
  was
• 20:47
  far
• 20:47
  from
• 20:47
  the
• 20:47
  truth.
• 20:48
  But
• 20:49
  I
• 20:49
  felt
• 20:50
  bad
• 20:50
  because
• 20:51
  our
• 20:51
  three
• 20:52
  dominant
• 20:52
  pitchers
• 20:53
  that
• 20:53
  we
• 20:53
  had,
• 20:54
  actually
• 20:54
  four
• 20:56
  weren't
• 20:56
  really
• 20:57
  even
• 20:57
  mentioned
• 20:57
  in
• 20:58
  the
• 20:58
  movie.
• 20:58
  I
• 20:58
  mean,
• 20:59
  we
• 20:59
  won
• 21:00
  20
• 21:00
  in
• 21:00
  a
• 21:00
  row.
• 21:01
  You
• 21:01
  know,
• 21:02
  we
• 21:02
  had,
• 21:03
  you
• 21:03
  know,
• 21:04
  Tim
• 21:05
  Hudson
• 21:05
  was
• 21:06
  probably
• 21:06
  our
• 21:07
  ace
• 21:07
  at
• 21:07
  that
• 21:07
  time.
• 21:08
  And
• 21:09
  then
• 21:10
  we
• 21:10
  had
• 21:11
  Mark
• 21:11
  Mulder,
• 21:12
  power
• 21:13
  left
• 21:13
  hander,
• 21:14
  and
• 21:15
  Barry
• 21:15
  Zito,
• 21:16
  another
• 21:17
  outstanding
• 21:17
  left
• 21:18
  handed
• 21:18
  pitcher.
• 21:19
  You
• 21:19
  know,
• 21:20
  Those
• 21:20
  three
• 21:20
  guys,
• 21:21
  they
• 21:21
  were
• 21:21
  our
• 21:21
  main
• 21:22
  guys
• 21:23
  that
• 21:24
  really
• 21:24
  did
• 21:25
  well
• 21:25
  for
• 21:25
  us.
• 21:26
  But,
• 21:26
  you
• 21:27
  know,
• 21:27
  it's
• 21:27
  just.
• 21:28
  It's
• 21:28
  a
• 21:28
  shame
• 21:28
  that
• 21:29
  none
• 21:29
  of
• 21:29
  them
• 21:29
  got
• 21:29
  credit
• 21:30
  for
• 21:31
  the
• 21:31
  kind
• 21:31
  of
• 21:31
  season
• 21:32
  we
• 21:32
  had.
• 21:33
  And
• 21:34
  that's.
• 21:34
  That's
• 21:35
  one
• 21:35
  of
• 21:35
  the
• 21:35
  big
• 21:35
  drawbacks
• 21:36
  to
• 21:36
  the
• 21:36
  movie.
• 21:37
  You
• 21:38
  know,
• 21:38
  we
• 21:38
  wouldn't
• 21:38
  have
• 21:38
  been
• 21:38
  there
• 21:39
  at
• 21:39
  all
• 21:39
  without
• 21:40
  that
• 21:40
  pitching
• 21:40
  staff.
• 21:41
  And
• 21:41
  they
• 21:41
  were
• 21:42
  kind
• 21:42
  of
• 21:42
  overlooked
• 21:44
  totally.
• 21:45
  And
• 21:46
  the
• 21:46
  thing
• 21:46
  with
• 21:47
  Billy
• 21:47
  Beane
• 21:47
  and
• 21:48
  his
• 21:48
  saber
• 21:48
  metrics
• 21:49
  are,
• 21:49
  and
• 21:50
  I'm
• 21:50
  a
• 21:51
  traditionalist,
• 21:52
  as
• 21:52
  probably
• 21:52
  you
• 21:53
  are,
• 21:53
  and
• 21:53
  a
• 21:53
  purist,
• 21:55
  managers
• 21:56
  have
• 21:56
  lost
• 21:57
  a
• 21:57
  feel
• 21:57
  for
• 21:57
  the
• 21:58
  game.
• 21:59
  I
• 21:59
  think
• 22:01
  a
• 22:02
  guy
• 22:02
  like
• 22:03
  Sparky
• 22:03
  Anderson,
• 22:04
  Earl
• 22:05
  Weaver,
• 22:06
  Jimmy
• 22:07
  Leland,
• 22:08
  these
• 22:08
  guys
• 22:09
  had
• 22:09
  a
• 22:10
  real
• 22:10
  feel
• 22:10
  for
• 22:11
  the
• 22:11
  game.
• 22:11
  They
• 22:12
  knew
• 22:12
  how
• 22:12
  to
• 22:12
  manage
• 22:13
  men
• 22:14
  and
• 22:14
  they
• 22:15
  knew
• 22:15
  how
• 22:15
  to
• 22:16
  run
• 22:16
  a
• 22:16
  ball
• 22:16
  game.
• 22:18
  Analytics.
• 22:20
  You
• 22:20
  lose
• 22:21
  the
• 22:21
  feel
• 22:21
  for
• 22:22
  the
• 22:22
  game
• 22:22
  with
• 22:22
  that.
• 22:22
  And
• 22:23
  I
• 22:23
  think
• 22:23
  you'd
• 22:23
  agree
• 22:23
  with
• 22:24
  me
• 22:24
  with
• 22:24
  that,
• 22:24
  wouldn't
• 22:25
  you?
• 22:26
  Well,
• 22:26
  I
• 22:27
  don't
• 22:27
  think
• 22:27
  managers
• 22:28
  today
• 22:28
  are
• 22:28
  allowed
• 22:29
  to
• 22:29
  have
• 22:29
  a
• 22:29
  feel
• 22:29
  for
• 22:30
  the
• 22:30
  game.
• 22:30
  Yeah,
• 22:31
  you
• 22:31
  know,
• 22:32
  they're
• 22:32
  under
• 22:32
  orders.
• 22:33
  You
• 22:33
  know,
• 22:34
  after
• 22:34
  90
• 22:34
  pitches,
• 22:35
  this
• 22:35
  guy's
• 22:35
  going
• 22:36
  to
• 22:36
  come
• 22:36
  out.
• 22:36
  Or
• 22:37
  after
• 22:38
  one
• 22:38
  or
• 22:38
  two
• 22:38
  times
• 22:39
  through
• 22:39
  the
• 22:39
  lineup,
• 22:40
  he
• 22:40
  has
• 22:40
  to
• 22:40
  come
• 22:40
  out.
• 22:41
  I
• 22:41
  mean,
• 22:42
  they're
• 22:42
  not
• 22:42
  managing,
• 22:44
  they're
• 22:44
  obeying
• 22:45
  orders.
• 22:45
  They
• 22:46
  have
• 22:46
  all
• 22:46
  these
• 22:47
  gurus
• 22:48
  up
• 22:48
  here
• 22:48
  on
• 22:48
  their
• 22:49
  computers
• 22:50
  with
• 22:50
  all
• 22:51
  their
• 22:51
  numbers
• 22:51
  and
• 22:52
  whatever
• 22:52
  they
• 22:52
  want
• 22:53
  to
• 22:53
  call
• 22:53
  it.
• 22:54
  You're
• 22:54
  not
• 22:54
  allowed
• 22:54
  to
• 22:55
  manage
• 22:55
  with
• 22:55
  your
• 22:55
  gut
• 22:56
  anymore.
• 22:57
  You're
• 22:57
  not
• 22:57
  allowed
• 22:57
  to.
• 22:58
  They're
• 22:58
  afraid
• 22:59
  to
• 22:59
  take
• 22:59
  a
• 22:59
  chance
• 22:59
  and
• 23:00
  do
• 23:00
  something
• 23:00
  against
• 23:01
  the
• 23:01
  book
• 23:01
  or
• 23:02
  whatever
• 23:02
  their
• 23:02
  book
• 23:03
  is,
• 23:04
  because
• 23:04
  they're
• 23:04
  going
• 23:05
  to
• 23:05
  get
• 23:05
  fired
• 23:05
  if
• 23:05
  it
• 23:06
  doesn't
• 23:06
  work
• 23:06
  out.
• 23:07
  And
• 23:07
  if
• 23:07
  it
• 23:07
  does
• 23:08
  work
• 23:08
  out,
• 23:09
  you
• 23:09
  know,
• 23:09
  they
• 23:09
  won't
• 23:10
  get
• 23:10
  credit
• 23:10
  for
• 23:10
  it
• 23:11
  anyway.
• 23:11
  So
• 23:12
  it's
• 23:13
  a
• 23:13
  totally
• 23:13
  different
• 23:14
  game.
• 23:15
  I'll
• 23:16
  be
• 23:16
  honest
• 23:16
  with
• 23:16
  you.
• 23:17
  I
• 23:17
  don't
• 23:17
  like
• 23:17
  watching
• 23:18
  the
• 23:18
  way
• 23:18
  they
• 23:18
  play
• 23:19
  it
• 23:19
  these
• 23:19
  days.
• 23:20
  Right.
• 23:20
  It's
• 23:20
  home
• 23:21
  run.
• 23:21
  Home
• 23:21
  run
• 23:22
  or
• 23:22
  no
• 23:22
  count.
• 23:23
  If
• 23:23
  you
• 23:23
  strike
• 23:23
  out,
• 23:24
  who
• 23:24
  cares?
• 23:25
  It's
• 23:25
  a
• 23:26
  total
• 23:26
  different
• 23:26
  game.
• 23:27
  And,
• 23:28
  you
• 23:29
  know,
• 23:29
  that's
• 23:30
  maybe
• 23:31
  people
• 23:31
  say,
• 23:31
  ah,
• 23:31
  he's
• 23:32
  bitter,
• 23:32
  he's
• 23:32
  old
• 23:32
  school,
• 23:33
  whatever.
• 23:35
  I'm
• 23:35
  glad
• 23:35
  I
• 23:35
  played
• 23:35
  when
• 23:36
  I
• 23:36
  did,
• 23:37
  and
• 23:37
  I'm
• 23:37
  glad
• 23:37
  I
• 23:38
  managed
• 23:38
  what
• 23:38
  I
• 23:38
  did.
• 23:39
  No,
• 23:40
  you're
• 23:40
  exactly
• 23:40
  right,
• 23:41
  Arla,
• 23:41
  and
• 23:41
  I
• 23:41
  agree
• 23:42
  with
• 23:42
  you
• 23:42
  with
• 23:42
  that.
• 23:44
  It's
• 23:44
  tough
• 23:45
  to
• 23:45
  watch
• 23:45
  today's
• 23:46
  game.
• 23:47
  The
• 23:47
  way
• 23:48
  that
• 23:48
  gentleman
• 23:49
  is
• 23:50
  changing
• 23:50
  the
• 23:51
  game,
• 23:51
  altering
• 23:52
  the
• 23:52
  game.
• 23:56
  It's
• 23:56
  just.
• 23:57
  To
• 23:58
  me,
• 23:58
  it's
• 23:58
  wrong.
• 23:58
  But
• 23:59
  who
• 24:00
  am
• 24:00
  I,
• 24:01
  as
• 24:01
  they
• 24:01
  say?
• 24:02
  You
• 24:02
  know,
• 24:03
  I
• 24:03
  hear
• 24:03
  you.
• 24:04
  Now,
• 24:04
  I
• 24:04
  want
• 24:05
  to
• 24:05
  ask
• 24:05
  you,
• 24:05
  when
• 24:05
  you
• 24:05
  came
• 24:06
  here
• 24:06
  in
• 24:06
  our
• 24:07
  last
• 24:07
  couple
• 24:07
  of
• 24:07
  minutes,
• 24:08
  you
• 24:08
  came
• 24:08
  to
• 24:08
  New
• 24:08
  York.
• 24:10
  Don't
• 24:11
  think
• 24:11
  you
• 24:11
  got
• 24:11
  a
• 24:11
  real
• 24:12
  fair
• 24:12
  shake
• 24:12
  here
• 24:13
  they
• 24:13
  went
• 24:14
  through
• 24:14
  three
• 24:14
  general
• 24:15
  managers
• 24:16
  during
• 24:16
  the
• 24:17
  time
• 24:17
  you
• 24:17
  were
• 24:17
  here.
• 24:18
  What's
• 24:19
  your
• 24:19
  point
• 24:19
  of
• 24:19
  view
• 24:19
  on
• 24:20
  your
• 24:20
  time
• 24:20
  in
• 24:21
  New
• 24:21
  York?
• 24:23
  Well,
• 24:23
  nothing
• 24:24
  against
• 24:24
  the
• 24:24
  general
• 24:25
  manager
• 24:25
  I
• 24:25
  played
• 24:25
  for.
• 24:26
  I
• 24:26
  wish
• 24:26
  I
• 24:26
  had.
• 24:27
  Steve
• 24:27
  Phillips
• 24:28
  had
• 24:28
  been,
• 24:29
  you
• 24:29
  know,
• 24:30
  had
• 24:30
  been
• 24:30
  allowed
• 24:31
  to
• 24:31
  stay
• 24:32
  throughout
• 24:32
  my
• 24:32
  tenure
• 24:33
  because
• 24:33
  he's
• 24:34
  the
• 24:34
  one
• 24:34
  that
• 24:34
  hired
• 24:35
  me,
• 24:35
  and
• 24:36
  we
• 24:36
  were
• 24:36
  definitely
• 24:36
  on
• 24:37
  the
• 24:37
  same
• 24:37
  page.
• 24:38
  I
• 24:38
  was
• 24:38
  really
• 24:40
  impressed
• 24:41
  with
• 24:41
  Steve.
• 24:41
  I
• 24:42
  thought
• 24:42
  he
• 24:43
  really
• 24:43
  had
• 24:43
  a
• 24:43
  good
• 24:43
  head
• 24:43
  on
• 24:44
  his
• 24:44
  shoulders.
• 24:44
  He
• 24:44
  had
• 24:45
  a
• 24:45
  good
• 24:45
  feel
• 24:46
  for
• 24:46
  the
• 24:46
  Mets
• 24:47
  at
• 24:47
  that
• 24:47
  time.
• 24:48
  And,
• 24:48
  you
• 24:49
  know,
• 24:49
  I'm
• 24:49
  coming
• 24:49
  from
• 24:50
  the
• 24:50
  American
• 24:51
  League,
• 24:51
  so
• 24:52
  I
• 24:52
  wasn't
• 24:52
  really
• 24:52
  familiar
• 24:53
  with
• 24:53
  the
• 24:53
  team
• 24:54
  hardly
• 24:55
  at
• 24:55
  all.
• 24:56
  So
• 24:56
  I
• 24:56
  had
• 24:56
  to
• 24:56
  use
• 24:56
  spring
• 24:57
  training
• 24:58
  to
• 24:58
  get
• 24:58
  to
• 24:58
  know
• 24:59
  my
• 24:59
  players,
• 24:59
  you
• 25:00
  know,
• 25:00
  as
• 25:00
  much
• 25:00
  as
• 25:00
  I
• 25:01
  could,
• 25:01
  anyways.
• 25:02
  And
• 25:03
  so
• 25:03
  that
• 25:04
  was
• 25:04
  a.
• 25:05
  It
• 25:05
  was
• 25:06
  shortly
• 25:06
  after
• 25:06
  that
• 25:06
  that
• 25:07
  Steve
• 25:07
  got
• 25:07
  fired.
• 25:08
  And.
• 25:09
  Yeah,
• 25:10
  you
• 25:10
  know,
• 25:10
  I
• 25:11
  mean,
• 25:12
  I
• 25:12
  worked
• 25:13
  well
• 25:13
  with
• 25:13
  the
• 25:13
  other
• 25:14
  general
• 25:14
  managers,
• 25:14
  but,
• 25:15
  yeah,
• 25:15
  it's
• 25:16
  tough.
• 25:16
  Yeah,
• 25:18
  it
• 25:18
  was.
• 25:19
  It
• 25:19
  was
• 25:19
  a
• 25:19
  different
• 25:19
  climate
• 25:20
  there.
• 25:20
  And
• 25:21
  in
• 25:21
  New
• 25:21
  York,
• 25:22
  we.
• 25:22
  Same
• 25:23
  thing.
• 25:23
  I
• 25:24
  felt
• 25:24
  like
• 25:24
  we
• 25:24
  were
• 25:24
  in
• 25:25
  a
• 25:25
  position
• 25:26
  to
• 25:26
  kind
• 25:26
  of
• 25:26
  start
• 25:27
  rebuilding
• 25:27
  a
• 25:28
  little
• 25:28
  bit
• 25:28
  because,
• 25:29
  you
• 25:30
  know,
• 25:30
  we.
• 25:30
  We
• 25:30
  really,
• 25:32
  once
• 25:32
  again,
• 25:32
  we
• 25:33
  had
• 25:33
  lost
• 25:33
  over
• 25:33
  100
• 25:34
  games
• 25:34
  the
• 25:35
  year
• 25:35
  before
• 25:35
  I
• 25:35
  came
• 25:36
  in,
• 25:37
  and,
• 25:38
  geez,
• 25:38
  we.
• 25:39
  We
• 25:39
  need
• 25:39
  to
• 25:39
  start
• 25:40
  putting
• 25:40
  pieces
• 25:40
  in
• 25:41
  place.
• 25:41
  But
• 25:42
  I
• 25:43
  basically
• 25:43
  learned
• 25:43
  that
• 25:44
  you
• 25:44
  don't
• 25:44
  rebuild
• 25:44
  in
• 25:45
  New
• 25:45
  York,
• 25:45
  so.
• 25:46
  And
• 25:47
  that's
• 25:47
  what
• 25:47
  I
• 25:47
  wanted
• 25:47
  to
• 25:48
  do,
• 25:48
  and
• 25:48
  I
• 25:48
  think
• 25:49
  that's
• 25:49
  where
• 25:49
  the
• 25:49
  problem
• 25:51
  really
• 25:51
  turned
• 25:52
  on.
• 25:52
  I
• 25:52
  see.
• 25:53
  Yeah.
• 25:53
  And
• 25:54
  the
• 25:55
  present
• 25:55
  day,
• 25:56
  they're
• 25:56
  sort
• 25:56
  of
• 25:56
  going
• 25:57
  through
• 25:57
  the
• 25:57
  same
• 25:57
  thing
• 25:58
  art
• 25:58
  with
• 26:00
  not
• 26:00
  wanting
• 26:00
  to
• 26:01
  rebuild
• 26:01
  when
• 26:02
  the
• 26:03
  team
• 26:03
  was
• 26:03
  basically
• 26:04
  destroyed
• 26:05
  by
• 26:05
  the
• 26:05
  general
• 26:06
  manager
• 26:06
  and
• 26:08
  the
• 26:09
  pieces.
• 26:09
  Well,
• 26:09
  right
• 26:10
  now,
• 26:10
  you
• 26:10
  know,
• 26:10
  they've
• 26:11
  got
• 26:11
  so
• 26:11
  many
• 26:11
  injuries,
• 26:12
  you
• 26:12
  know,
• 26:12
  that's
• 26:13
  part
• 26:13
  of
• 26:13
  the
• 26:13
  game,
• 26:13
  you
• 26:14
  know.
• 26:14
  Exactly.
• 26:15
  You
• 26:15
  know,
• 26:15
  I
• 26:15
  know
• 26:15
  that.
• 26:16
  I
• 26:16
  know
• 26:16
  the
• 26:16
  Met
• 26:17
  fans
• 26:17
  are
• 26:17
  kind
• 26:17
  of
• 26:18
  down
• 26:18
  in
• 26:18
  the
• 26:18
  dumps
• 26:19
  or
• 26:19
  whatever,
• 26:19
  but,
• 26:20
  you
• 26:20
  know,
• 26:21
  this
• 26:21
  is
• 26:21
  a
• 26:21
  marathon.
• 26:22
  This
• 26:22
  is
• 26:22
  no
• 26:23
  sprint,
• 26:24
  you
• 26:24
  know,
• 26:24
  this
• 26:24
  is
• 26:24
  just
• 26:25
  16
• 26:25
  of
• 26:26
  the
• 26:26
  season.
• 26:27
  And
• 26:27
  they
• 26:27
  got
• 26:27
  5,
• 26:28
  6
• 26:28
  to
• 26:28
  regroup.
• 26:29
  And
• 26:29
  once
• 26:29
  they
• 26:30
  start
• 26:30
  getting
• 26:30
  healthy,
• 26:31
  you
• 26:31
  know,
• 26:31
  get
• 26:32
  a
• 26:32
  Lynn
• 26:32
  door
• 26:32
  back
• 26:32
  in
• 26:33
  a
• 26:33
  lineup
• 26:33
  and,
• 26:34
  you
• 26:34
  know,
• 26:34
  start
• 26:34
  getting
• 26:35
  people
• 26:35
  back
• 26:35
  in
• 26:36
  place,
• 26:36
  you
• 26:37
  know,
• 26:37
  I
• 26:37
  think
• 26:37
  things
• 26:37
  will
• 26:38
  change,
• 26:38
  but,
• 26:39
  you
• 26:39
  know,
• 26:39
  they
• 26:39
  got
• 26:39
  their
• 26:40
  hands
• 26:40
  full,
• 26:40
  you
• 26:41
  know,
• 26:41
  and
• 26:41
  obviously
• 26:42
  you
• 26:42
  never
• 26:42
  want
• 26:43
  to
• 26:43
  start
• 26:43
  off
• 26:43
  the
• 26:44
  way
• 26:44
  they
• 26:44
  did.
• 26:44
  But
• 26:45
  if
• 26:45
  I'm
• 26:45
  not
• 26:46
  mistaken,
• 26:47
  the
• 26:47
  year
• 26:47
  we
• 26:48
  won
• 26:49
  our
• 26:49
  division
• 26:49
  with
• 26:50
  my
• 26:51
  last
• 26:51
  year
• 26:51
  with
• 26:52
  Oakland,
• 26:53
  when
• 26:53
  we
• 26:53
  won
• 26:53
  the
• 26:54
  20
• 26:54
  games,
• 26:55
  we
• 26:55
  started
• 26:56
  off
• 26:56
  very
• 26:57
  poorly
• 26:57
  the
• 26:58
  first
• 26:58
  month,
• 26:58
  and
• 26:59
  we
• 26:59
  ended
• 26:59
  up
• 27:00
  winning
• 27:00
  division.
• 27:00
  So
• 27:01
  the
• 27:02
  season's
• 27:02
  not
• 27:02
  over.
• 27:03
  We
• 27:03
  just
• 27:04
  hang
• 27:04
  in
• 27:04
  there
• 27:04
  and
• 27:04
  give
• 27:05
  the
• 27:05
  troops
• 27:06
  a
• 27:06
  chance
• 27:06
  to
• 27:06
  heal
• 27:07
  up
• 27:07
  and
• 27:08
  get
• 27:08
  things
• 27:08
  clicking,
• 27:09
  because
• 27:09
  they've
• 27:09
  got
• 27:10
  a
• 27:10
  heck
• 27:10
  of
• 27:10
  a
• 27:10
  lineup
• 27:11
  when
• 27:11
  they're.
• 27:11
  Healthy
• 27:12
  from
• 27:13
  your
• 27:13
  lips,
• 27:13
  Art.
• 27:14
  Like
• 27:14
  they
• 27:14
  say,
• 27:17
  let
• 27:17
  it
• 27:17
  be
• 27:18
  done.
• 27:19
  Let's
• 27:19
  hope
• 27:19
  that
• 27:19
  happens.
• 27:20
  Well,
• 27:20
  Art,
• 27:21
  it's
• 27:21
  been
• 27:21
  a
• 27:21
  real
• 27:22
  pleasure.
• 27:22
  I
• 27:22
  thank
• 27:23
  you
• 27:23
  for
• 27:23
  taking
• 27:23
  time
• 27:24
  out
• 27:24
  of
• 27:24
  your
• 27:24
  Sunday
• 27:24
  evening
• 27:25
  to
• 27:25
  spend
• 27:25
  some
• 27:25
  of
• 27:26
  it
• 27:26
  with
• 27:26
  us
• 27:26
  up
• 27:26
  here
• 27:27
  in
• 27:27
  New
• 27:27
  York.
• 27:28
  I
• 27:28
  wish
• 27:29
  all
• 27:29
  the
• 27:29
  best
• 27:29
  to
• 27:30
  you
• 27:30
  and
• 27:30
  your
• 27:30
  family
• 27:30
  and
• 27:31
  I
• 27:31
  thank
• 27:31
  you
• 27:31
  once
• 27:32
  again.
• 27:33
  Thank
• 27:33
  you,
• 27:33
  Bill.
• 27:34
  And
• 27:34
  do
• 27:34
  me
• 27:35
  a
• 27:35
  favor.
• 27:35
  Sure,
• 27:36
  Maggs.
• 27:36
  I
• 27:36
  said
• 27:37
  hello.
• 27:37
  Okay,
• 27:37
  I
• 27:38
  certainly
• 27:38
  will.
• 27:38
  Yeah,
• 27:39
  I
• 27:40
  got
• 27:40
  him.
• 27:40
  He's
• 27:40
  texting
• 27:41
  me
• 27:41
  right
• 27:41
  now.
• 27:42
  I
• 27:42
  will
• 27:43
  definitely
• 27:43
  give
• 27:43
  him
• 27:44
  your
• 27:44
  regards.
• 27:45
  Thank
• 27:45
  you.
• 27:46
  Appreciate
• 27:46
  it.
• 27:47
  That's
• 27:47
  Art
• 27:47
  How
• 27:47
  Ladies
• 27:48
  and
• 27:48
  gentlemen,
• 27:48
  up
• 27:49
  next
• 27:49
  on
• 27:49
  Sports
• 27:50
  Talk
• 27:50
  New
• 27:50
  York,
• 27:50
  we'll
• 27:51
  welcome
• 27:51
  in
• 27:51
  the
• 27:52
  great
• 27:52
  Dave
• 27:52
  Magadan.
• 27:54
  So
• 27:54
  why
• 27:54
  don't
• 27:55
  you
• 27:55
  just
• 27:55
  stick
• 27:55
  around,
• 27:56
  folks?
• 28:15
  Foreign.
• 28:21
  You
• 28:21
  are
• 28:21
  listening
• 28:22
  to
• 28:22
  Sports
• 28:22
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• 28:23
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• 28:23
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• 28:24
  Tune
• 28:24
  in
• 28:24
  every
• 28:24
  Sunday
• 28:25
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• 28:25
  at
• 28:25
  8pm
• 28:25
  on
• 28:25
  Long
• 28:26
  Island's
• 28:26
  WGBB,
• 28:27
  broadcasting
• 28:28
  on
• 28:28
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• 28:29
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• 28:30
  and
• 28:30
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• 28:31
  or
• 28:31
  listen
• 28:32
  live
• 28:32
  online
• 28:32
  at
• 28:33
  wgbbradio.com
• 28:36
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• 28:36
  connected
• 28:37
  to
• 28:37
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• 28:38
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• 28:38
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• 28:38
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• 28:39
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• 28:39
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• 28:39
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• 28:40
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• 28:43
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  Talk,
• 28:48
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• 28:48
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• 28:48
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• 28:49
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• 28:49
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• 28:50
  on
• 28:50
  Long
• 28:50
  Island's
• 28:51
  wgpb.
• 28:53
  And
• 28:53
  now
• 28:54
  back
• 28:54
  to
• 28:55
  the
• 28:55
  show.
• 29:01
  All
• 29:01
  right,
• 29:01
  folks,
• 29:02
  we're
• 29:02
  back
• 29:02
  with
• 29:03
  Sports
• 29:03
  Talk
• 29:03
  New
• 29:04
  York
• 29:04
  on
• 29:04
  WGB
• 29:06
  AM
• 29:06
  FM
• 29:07
  radio
• 29:07
  live
• 29:09
  from
• 29:09
  beautiful
• 29:09
  downtown
• 29:10
  Merrick,
• 29:10
  Long
• 29:11
  Island,
• 29:11
  New
• 29:11
  York.
• 29:12
  You
• 29:12
  usa,
• 29:13
  North
• 29:14
  America,
• 29:15
  Planet
• 29:16
  Earth,
• 29:16
  Milky
• 29:17
  Way
• 29:17
  galaxy.
• 29:19
  If
• 29:19
  you
• 29:19
  can't
• 29:19
  find
• 29:19
  us
• 29:20
  from
• 29:20
  that
• 29:21
  description,
• 29:21
  you're
• 29:22
  really
• 29:22
  lost,
• 29:23
  folks.
• 29:23
  Anyway,
• 29:24
  hope
• 29:25
  everyone
• 29:25
  is
• 29:25
  well,
• 29:26
  I
• 29:26
  hope
• 29:26
  you're
• 29:27
  enjoying
• 29:27
  the
• 29:27
  program
• 29:28
  tonight.
• 29:29
  The
• 29:29
  Mets
• 29:30
  win
• 29:30
  a
• 29:30
  series
• 29:30
  today,
• 29:32
  beat
• 29:32
  the
• 29:32
  Anaheim
• 29:33
  Angels.
• 29:34
  Nice
• 29:34
  game.
• 29:35
  Nice
• 29:35
  game.
• 29:36
  Clay
• 29:36
  Holmes
• 29:37
  pitched
• 29:38
  a
• 29:38
  gem
• 29:39
  and
• 29:40
  hopefully
• 29:40
  they'll
• 29:41
  continue
• 29:42
  moving
• 29:42
  on
• 29:42
  to
• 29:43
  Colorado
• 29:43
  where
• 29:43
  it's
• 29:44
  supposed
• 29:44
  to
• 29:44
  snow
• 29:44
  this
• 29:45
  week.
• 29:46
  So
• 29:46
  we'll
• 29:46
  keep
• 29:47
  an
• 29:47
  eye
• 29:47
  on
• 29:47
  that.
• 29:47
  Let's
• 29:48
  move
• 29:48
  forward
• 29:48
  with
• 29:48
  our
• 29:49
  next
• 29:49
  guest.
• 29:50
  Came
• 29:50
  up
• 29:50
  to
• 29:50
  the
• 29:50
  Mets
• 29:51
  in
• 29:51
  the
• 29:51
  memorable
• 29:52
  season
• 29:52
  of
• 29:52
  1986
• 29:54
  after
• 29:54
  a
• 29:54
  stellar
• 29:55
  minor
• 29:55
  league
• 29:55
  career
• 29:56
  and
• 29:57
  some
• 29:57
  record
• 29:58
  setting
• 29:58
  in
• 29:58
  college
• 29:59
  for
• 29:59
  the
• 29:59
  Alabama
• 30:00
  Crimson
• 30:00
  Tide,
• 30:01
  went
• 30:01
  on
• 30:01
  to
• 30:02
  have
• 30:02
  a
• 30:02
  very
• 30:02
  successful
• 30:03
  career
• 30:03
  as
• 30:03
  a
• 30:04
  hitting
• 30:04
  coach
• 30:04
  in
• 30:04
  the
• 30:04
  big
• 30:05
  leagues.
• 30:05
  Won
• 30:06
  another
• 30:06
  World
• 30:06
  Series
• 30:07
  ring
• 30:07
  in
• 30:07
  the
• 30:07
  process.
• 30:08
  Hi,
• 30:09
  welcome
• 30:09
  to
• 30:09
  Sports
• 30:09
  Talk
• 30:10
  New
• 30:10
  York.
• 30:10
  Tonight,
• 30:10
  Dave
• 30:11
  Magadan.
• 30:11
  Dave,
• 30:12
  good
• 30:12
  evening.
• 30:14
  How
• 30:14
  are
• 30:14
  you?
• 30:14
  Bill?
• 30:15
  Doing
• 30:15
  wonderful,
• 30:15
  Dave,
• 30:16
  Glad
• 30:16
  to
• 30:17
  have
• 30:17
  you
• 30:17
  with
• 30:17
  us.
• 30:17
  I
• 30:17
  just
• 30:18
  want
• 30:18
  to
• 30:18
  tell
• 30:18
  you
• 30:18
  right
• 30:19
  off
• 30:19
  the
• 30:19
  bat,
• 30:20
  Art
• 30:20
  Howe
• 30:21
  sends
• 30:21
  his
• 30:22
  regards.
• 30:23
  Art's
• 30:24
  one
• 30:24
  of
• 30:24
  my
• 30:24
  favorite
• 30:25
  managers
• 30:25
  that
• 30:25
  I
• 30:26
  ever
• 30:26
  had
• 30:26
  in
• 30:26
  the
• 30:26
  big
• 30:26
  leagues
• 30:27
  as
• 30:27
  a
• 30:27
  player.
• 30:29
  He
• 30:29
  was
• 30:29
  always
• 30:30
  very
• 30:30
  fair
• 30:30
  to
• 30:30
  me
• 30:31
  in
• 30:31
  Oakland
• 30:31
  and
• 30:31
  gave
• 30:32
  me
• 30:32
  opportunities
• 30:32
  to
• 30:33
  play
• 30:33
  and
• 30:34
  he's
• 30:34
  very
• 30:34
  even
• 30:35
  keel
• 30:35
  and,
• 30:36
  and
• 30:36
  he's
• 30:36
  one
• 30:37
  of
• 30:37
  my
• 30:37
  all
• 30:37
  time
• 30:37
  favorites.
• 30:38
  Nice.
• 30:38
  Yeah,
• 30:39
  he
• 30:40
  wanted
• 30:40
  me
• 30:40
  to
• 30:41
  send
• 30:41
  his
• 30:41
  regards
• 30:42
  to
• 30:42
  you
• 30:43
  and
• 30:43
  we
• 30:44
  did
• 30:44
  that
• 30:44
  and
• 30:45
  I'm
• 30:45
  glad
• 30:46
  that
• 30:46
  you
• 30:46
  guys
• 30:47
  have
• 30:47
  such
• 30:47
  a
• 30:47
  great
• 30:47
  regard
• 30:48
  for
• 30:48
  each
• 30:48
  other.
• 30:49
  He
• 30:49
  preceded
• 30:50
  you
• 30:50
  on
• 30:50
  the
• 30:51
  show.
• 30:51
  A
• 30:51
  great
• 30:52
  guy.
• 30:52
  Yeah,
• 30:52
  great
• 30:53
  interview
• 30:53
  and
• 30:54
  we
• 30:54
  had
• 30:54
  a
• 30:54
  nice
• 30:54
  chat.
• 30:55
  Well,
• 30:56
  growing
• 30:56
  up
• 30:56
  in
• 30:56
  the
• 30:56
  Tampa
• 30:57
  area,
• 30:57
  Dave,
• 30:58
  who
• 30:58
  were
• 30:58
  your
• 30:59
  teams
• 30:59
  and
• 30:59
  your
• 30:59
  sports
• 31:00
  heroes
• 31:00
  when
• 31:00
  you
• 31:00
  were
• 31:01
  a
• 31:01
  kid?
• 31:03
  Well,
• 31:03
  I
• 31:04
  was
• 31:04
  always
• 31:04
  a
• 31:04
  big
• 31:04
  Reds
• 31:05
  fan.
• 31:06
  They
• 31:06
  had
• 31:06
  spring
• 31:07
  training
• 31:07
  here
• 31:07
  in
• 31:07
  Tampa
• 31:08
  back
• 31:09
  then
• 31:09
  and
• 31:09
  we
• 31:09
  used
• 31:09
  to
• 31:09
  skip
• 31:10
  school
• 31:10
  and
• 31:10
  go
• 31:10
  over
• 31:10
  there
• 31:11
  to
• 31:11
  Reds
• 31:11
  land
• 31:11
  and
• 31:12
  watch
• 31:12
  them
• 31:13
  play
• 31:13
  on
• 31:13
  those
• 31:14
  on
• 31:14
  the
• 31:15
  at
• 31:15
  Alope
• 31:16
  Field.
• 31:16
  And
• 31:18
  so
• 31:18
  I
• 31:18
  was
• 31:18
  always
• 31:19
  a
• 31:19
  Big
• 31:19
  Red
• 31:19
  Machine
• 31:20
  fan.
• 31:20
  Loved
• 31:20
  Johnny
• 31:21
  Bench.
• 31:21
  He
• 31:21
  was
• 31:21
  always
• 31:21
  one
• 31:21
  of
• 31:22
  my
• 31:22
  favorite
• 31:22
  players
• 31:22
  growing
• 31:23
  up.
• 31:24
  Tony
• 31:24
  Perez,
• 31:24
  Pete
• 31:25
  Rose,
• 31:25
  Joe
• 31:26
  Morgan,
• 31:26
  you
• 31:27
  know,
• 31:27
  Dan
• 31:27
  Dreeson.
• 31:28
  And
• 31:29
  you
• 31:29
  know,
• 31:29
  it
• 31:29
  was
• 31:29
  hard
• 31:30
  not
• 31:30
  to
• 31:30
  root
• 31:30
  for
• 31:30
  that
• 31:30
  team.
• 31:31
  But
• 31:31
  I
• 31:31
  always,
• 31:32
  you
• 31:32
  know,
• 31:33
  being
• 31:33
  that
• 31:33
  my
• 31:33
  cousin
• 31:34
  is
• 31:34
  Lou
• 31:34
  Piniella,
• 31:34
  I
• 31:35
  was
• 31:35
  always
• 31:35
  a
• 31:35
  big
• 31:36
  fan
• 31:36
  of
• 31:36
  whatever
• 31:37
  team
• 31:37
  he
• 31:37
  was
• 31:37
  on.
• 31:37
  Obviously
• 31:38
  when
• 31:38
  he
• 31:38
  was
• 31:38
  with
• 31:38
  the
• 31:38
  Yankees
• 31:39
  and
• 31:39
  they
• 31:39
  were
• 31:39
  very
• 31:40
  good
• 31:40
  in
• 31:40
  winning
• 31:41
  championships
• 31:41
  and
• 31:43
  he
• 31:43
  was
• 31:43
  a
• 31:43
  big
• 31:43
  part
• 31:44
  of
• 31:44
  that.
• 31:45
  You
• 31:45
  know,
• 31:45
  we
• 31:46
  would
• 31:46
  always
• 31:46
  go
• 31:46
  in
• 31:46
  the
• 31:47
  summers
• 31:47
  and
• 31:48
  when
• 31:48
  I
• 31:48
  was
• 31:48
  a
• 31:48
  little
• 31:48
  kid
• 31:49
  and
• 31:49
  we
• 31:49
  would,
• 31:50
  you
• 31:50
  know,
• 31:50
  go
• 31:50
  to
• 31:51
  different
• 31:51
  spots
• 31:51
  when
• 31:51
  he
• 31:52
  was
• 31:52
  playing
• 31:52
  in
• 31:52
  the
• 31:52
  minor
• 31:53
  leagues,
• 31:53
  my
• 31:54
  father
• 31:54
  and
• 31:55
  and
• 31:55
  my
• 31:55
  mom
• 31:55
  were
• 31:56
  very
• 31:56
  close
• 31:56
  to
• 31:56
  Lou,
• 31:57
  his
• 31:57
  aunt
• 31:58
  and
• 31:58
  uncle.
• 31:59
  And
• 32:00
  then
• 32:00
  eventually
• 32:00
  when
• 32:00
  he
• 32:00
  got
• 32:01
  to
• 32:01
  Kansas
• 32:01
  City,
• 32:01
  we
• 32:02
  went
• 32:02
  up
• 32:02
  there
• 32:02
  and
• 32:02
  watched
• 32:02
  him
• 32:03
  play.
• 32:03
  And
• 32:03
  then
• 32:04
  eventually
• 32:04
  in
• 32:04
  New
• 32:05
  York.
• 32:06
  Yeah,
• 32:06
  great
• 32:07
  choice.
• 32:08
  Great
• 32:09
  choice
• 32:09
  with
• 32:09
  the
• 32:10
  Reds
• 32:10
  too.
• 32:10
  I
• 32:11
  remember
• 32:11
  they
• 32:11
  were
• 32:11
  in
• 32:12
  Tampa
• 32:12
  at
• 32:12
  Al
• 32:12
  Lopez
• 32:13
  Field.
• 32:13
  Then
• 32:14
  I
• 32:14
  believe
• 32:14
  they
• 32:14
  moved
• 32:15
  down
• 32:15
  I4
• 32:16
  to
• 32:16
  Plant
• 32:16
  City
• 32:17
  if
• 32:17
  I'm
• 32:18
  not
• 32:18
  mistaken.
• 32:19
  But
• 32:19
  yeah,
• 32:20
  hard
• 32:21
  not
• 32:21
  to
• 32:21
  root
• 32:21
  for
• 32:21
  those
• 32:21
  Reds,
• 32:22
  Dave,
• 32:22
  that's
• 32:23
  for
• 32:23
  sure.
• 32:23
  Now,
• 32:23
  17
• 32:24
  year
• 32:24
  old,
• 32:24
  you're
• 32:25
  drafted
• 32:25
  by
• 32:25
  the
• 32:26
  Red
• 32:26
  Sox
• 32:27
  in
• 32:27
  high
• 32:27
  school.
• 32:28
  You
• 32:28
  didn't
• 32:29
  sign
• 32:29
  with
• 32:29
  them
• 32:29
  though.
• 32:30
  What
• 32:30
  happened
• 32:30
  there?
• 32:33
  I
• 32:33
  didn't
• 32:33
  feel
• 32:33
  like
• 32:33
  I
• 32:34
  was
• 32:34
  ready
• 32:34
  to
• 32:34
  play.
• 32:35
  I
• 32:35
  was
• 32:36
  very
• 32:36
  young,
• 32:37
  17
• 32:37
  year
• 32:37
  old
• 32:38
  actually,
• 32:39
  when
• 32:39
  I
• 32:39
  eventually
• 32:39
  went
• 32:39
  to
• 32:40
  Alabama
• 32:40
  that
• 32:40
  next
• 32:41
  fall.
• 32:42
  I
• 32:42
  was
• 32:42
  17
• 32:43
  when
• 32:43
  I
• 32:43
  got
• 32:43
  to
• 32:43
  school.
• 32:44
  So
• 32:44
  I
• 32:44
  was
• 32:44
  very
• 32:45
  young
• 32:45
  for
• 32:46
  a
• 32:46
  high
• 32:46
  school
• 32:46
  senior.
• 32:48
  Hadn't
• 32:49
  really
• 32:50
  grown
• 32:50
  into
• 32:50
  my
• 32:51
  body.
• 32:51
  I
• 32:52
  was
• 32:52
  6
• 32:52
  3,
• 32:52
  but
• 32:52
  I
• 32:53
  was
• 32:53
  probably
• 32:53
  175,
• 32:54
  180
• 32:55
  pounds.
• 32:56
  I
• 32:57
  didn't
• 32:57
  feel
• 32:57
  like
• 32:57
  physically
• 32:58
  I
• 32:58
  was
• 32:58
  ready
• 32:58
  for
• 32:58
  professional
• 32:59
  baseball
• 33:00
  and
• 33:01
  probably
• 33:01
  not
• 33:01
  emotionally.
• 33:03
  So
• 33:04
  I
• 33:04
  felt
• 33:04
  like
• 33:04
  going
• 33:05
  to
• 33:05
  Alabama,
• 33:05
  getting
• 33:06
  an
• 33:06
  opportunity
• 33:06
  to
• 33:06
  play
• 33:07
  in
• 33:07
  the
• 33:07
  sec,
• 33:11
  Having
• 33:12
  a
• 33:12
  chance
• 33:12
  to
• 33:12
  mature
• 33:13
  as
• 33:13
  a
• 33:13
  person
• 33:14
  and
• 33:14
  as
• 33:14
  a
• 33:15
  player
• 33:15
  and
• 33:16
  going
• 33:16
  there
• 33:16
  in
• 33:16
  the
• 33:16
  fall
• 33:16
  and
• 33:17
  eventually
• 33:17
  getting
• 33:17
  my
• 33:18
  feet
• 33:18
  wet.
• 33:20
  I
• 33:21
  always
• 33:21
  thought
• 33:21
  that
• 33:21
  schooling
• 33:22
  was
• 33:22
  very
• 33:22
  important
• 33:23
  too.
• 33:23
  I
• 33:24
  wanted
• 33:24
  to
• 33:24
  work
• 33:24
  towards
• 33:25
  that.
• 33:25
  So
• 33:25
  I
• 33:25
  think
• 33:26
  the
• 33:26
  Combination
• 33:26
  of
• 33:27
  those
• 33:28
  two
• 33:28
  things
• 33:29
  physically
• 33:29
  and
• 33:29
  emotionally,
• 33:30
  not
• 33:30
  ready
• 33:31
  to
• 33:31
  go
• 33:32
  into
• 33:32
  pro
• 33:32
  baseball.
• 33:33
  And
• 33:33
  then
• 33:34
  the
• 33:34
  opportunity
• 33:34
  to
• 33:34
  play
• 33:35
  at
• 33:35
  Alabama
• 33:35
  in
• 33:35
  the
• 33:35
  SEC
• 33:36
  was
• 33:36
  something
• 33:37
  I
• 33:37
  couldn't
• 33:37
  pass
• 33:37
  up.
• 33:38
  Yeah,
• 33:38
  you
• 33:38
  had
• 33:38
  a
• 33:38
  great
• 33:39
  career
• 33:39
  at
• 33:39
  Alabama.
• 33:40
  I
• 33:40
  remember
• 33:41
  you
• 33:41
  mentioned
• 33:41
  to
• 33:41
  me
• 33:43
  a
• 33:43
  week
• 33:43
  or
• 33:43
  so
• 33:43
  ago
• 33:44
  when
• 33:44
  you
• 33:44
  went
• 33:44
  up
• 33:44
  to
• 33:44
  Hofstra,
• 33:46
  fans
• 33:47
  were
• 33:47
  finally
• 33:47
  asking
• 33:48
  you
• 33:48
  to
• 33:48
  sign
• 33:48
  Alabama
• 33:49
  items
• 33:50
  at
• 33:51
  the
• 33:51
  card
• 33:51
  show.
• 33:52
  Career
• 33:53
  batting
• 33:53
  average
• 33:53
  of.439,
• 33:55
  Dave.
• 33:57
  Single
• 33:57
  season
• 33:58
  batting
• 33:58
  average
• 33:59
  leader
• 34:00
  of.525
• 34:01
  in
• 34:02
  1983.
• 34:04
  That's
• 34:04
  crazy.
• 34:06
  Yeah,
• 34:07
  it
• 34:07
  was,
• 34:08
  you
• 34:08
  know,
• 34:09
  it
• 34:09
  was
• 34:09
  a
• 34:09
  great
• 34:09
  three
• 34:09
  years
• 34:10
  for
• 34:10
  me
• 34:10
  there.
• 34:10
  You
• 34:10
  know,
• 34:11
  when
• 34:11
  we
• 34:11
  were
• 34:11
  going
• 34:12
  into
• 34:12
  our
• 34:12
  first
• 34:13
  game
• 34:14
  my
• 34:14
  freshman
• 34:15
  year,
• 34:15
  I
• 34:15
  didn't
• 34:15
  even
• 34:15
  know
• 34:15
  whether
• 34:16
  I
• 34:16
  was
• 34:16
  going
• 34:16
  to
• 34:16
  make
• 34:16
  the
• 34:16
  travel
• 34:17
  squad.
• 34:18
  Our
• 34:18
  first
• 34:19
  series
• 34:19
  was
• 34:19
  in
• 34:20
  Mobile
• 34:20
  in
• 34:21
  South
• 34:21
  Alabama,
• 34:22
  and
• 34:22
  I
• 34:23
  didn't
• 34:23
  even
• 34:23
  know
• 34:23
  whether
• 34:23
  I
• 34:24
  was
• 34:24
  going
• 34:24
  to
• 34:24
  go
• 34:24
  or
• 34:24
  not.
• 34:25
  And
• 34:26
  a
• 34:26
  couple
• 34:27
  days
• 34:27
  before
• 34:27
  we
• 34:28
  left
• 34:28
  to
• 34:28
  go
• 34:28
  on
• 34:28
  that
• 34:28
  trip,
• 34:29
  our
• 34:29
  shortstop
• 34:30
  blew
• 34:30
  out
• 34:30
  his
• 34:31
  knee.
• 34:32
  So
• 34:32
  the
• 34:32
  guy
• 34:32
  that
• 34:32
  was
• 34:32
  playing
• 34:33
  third
• 34:33
  base
• 34:33
  moved
• 34:34
  over
• 34:34
  to
• 34:34
  short
• 34:34
  and
• 34:35
  then
• 34:35
  that
• 34:35
  gave
• 34:35
  me
• 34:35
  the
• 34:35
  opportunity
• 34:36
  to
• 34:36
  play
• 34:37
  and
• 34:38
  I
• 34:38
  was
• 34:38
  able
• 34:38
  to
• 34:39
  hit
• 34:39
  in
• 34:39
  my
• 34:40
  first
• 34:40
  27
• 34:40
  games
• 34:41
  as
• 34:41
  a
• 34:41
  freshman.
• 34:42
  So
• 34:43
  took
• 34:44
  advantage
• 34:44
  of
• 34:44
  the
• 34:44
  opportunity
• 34:45
  and
• 34:47
  was
• 34:47
  a
• 34:47
  three
• 34:47
  year
• 34:48
  starter
• 34:48
  there
• 34:48
  at
• 34:48
  Alabama.
• 34:49
  Where
• 34:50
  do
• 34:50
  those
• 34:50
  numbers
• 34:50
  stack
• 34:51
  up
• 34:51
  in
• 34:52
  NCAA
• 34:53
  records,
• 34:53
  Dave?
• 34:54
  Do
• 34:54
  you
• 34:54
  know?
• 34:54
  I
• 34:54
  tried
• 34:55
  to
• 34:55
  look
• 34:55
  it
• 34:55
  up.
• 34:55
  I
• 34:55
  couldn't
• 34:56
  find
• 34:56
  it.
• 34:56
  Do
• 34:57
  you
• 34:57
  know
• 34:58
  where
• 34:58
  the
• 34:58
  439
• 34:59
  or
• 34:59
  the
• 35:00
  525
• 35:01
  sits
• 35:01
  in
• 35:02
  NCA
• 35:03
  records?
• 35:04
  I'm
• 35:05
  not
• 35:05
  really
• 35:05
  sure.
• 35:07
  I
• 35:07
  believe
• 35:07
  the
• 35:08
  439
• 35:09
  is
• 35:09
  an
• 35:09
  SEC
• 35:10
  record
• 35:10
  and
• 35:11
  the
• 35:11
  525
• 35:12
  is
• 35:12
  also
• 35:12
  an
• 35:13
  SEC
• 35:13
  record
• 35:13
  for
• 35:14
  one
• 35:14
  year,
• 35:15
  I
• 35:16
  believe,
• 35:17
  because
• 35:17
  there's
• 35:17
  so
• 35:17
  many
• 35:18
  small
• 35:18
  schools
• 35:19
  that
• 35:19
  played,
• 35:20
  you
• 35:21
  know,
• 35:22
  throughout
• 35:22
  the
• 35:22
  years
• 35:22
  that
• 35:23
  only
• 35:23
  maybe
• 35:24
  played
• 35:24
  25,
• 35:25
  30
• 35:25
  games.
• 35:25
  And
• 35:26
  I
• 35:27
  believe
• 35:27
  there
• 35:27
  were
• 35:27
  some
• 35:28
  guys
• 35:28
  that
• 35:28
  hit
• 35:28
  higher
• 35:28
  than
• 35:29
  that
• 35:29
  and
• 35:29
  those
• 35:29
  shorter
• 35:30
  seasons.
• 35:31
  But
• 35:31
  I
• 35:31
  think
• 35:32
  for
• 35:32
  major
• 35:32
  college,
• 35:33
  I
• 35:33
  believe
• 35:34
  it's
• 35:34
  a
• 35:34
  record
• 35:35
  still.
• 35:35
  And
• 35:36
  Dave,
• 35:36
  of
• 35:36
  course,
• 35:36
  was
• 35:37
  elected
• 35:37
  to
• 35:37
  the
• 35:37
  College
• 35:38
  Baseball
• 35:38
  hall
• 35:39
  of
• 35:39
  fame
• 35:39
  in
• 35:40
  2010
• 35:41
  and
• 35:41
  a
• 35:42
  tremendous
• 35:42
  honor.
• 35:43
  Dave
• 35:43
  Magadan
• 35:43
  with
• 35:44
  us
• 35:44
  tonight
• 35:44
  on
• 35:44
  Sports
• 35:45
  Talk
• 35:45
  New
• 35:45
  York.
• 35:46
  Now,
• 35:46
  your
• 35:46
  major
• 35:46
  league
• 35:47
  debut,
• 35:47
  Dave,
• 35:47
  do
• 35:48
  you
• 35:48
  remember
• 35:48
  that?
• 35:50
  I
• 35:50
  sure
• 35:50
  do.
• 35:51
  I
• 35:51
  sure
• 35:51
  do.
• 35:52
  September
• 35:52
  7,
• 35:53
  1986.
• 35:54
  Pinch
• 35:54
  hit
• 35:55
  for
• 35:55
  Kevin
• 35:55
  Elster.
• 35:56
  What
• 35:56
  happened?
• 35:58
  We
• 35:59
  were
• 35:59
  playing
• 35:59
  a
• 35:59
  doubleheader
• 36:00
  against
• 36:00
  San
• 36:00
  Diego
• 36:01
  and
• 36:01
  I
• 36:01
  had
• 36:02
  just
• 36:02
  gotten
• 36:02
  into
• 36:02
  town
• 36:03
  and
• 36:05
  had
• 36:05
  no
• 36:05
  idea
• 36:06
  I
• 36:06
  had
• 36:06
  a
• 36:06
  chance
• 36:06
  to
• 36:07
  hit.
• 36:07
  And
• 36:08
  all
• 36:08
  of
• 36:08
  a
• 36:08
  sudden
• 36:08
  Davey
• 36:09
  looks
• 36:09
  at
• 36:09
  me
• 36:09
  and
• 36:09
  goes,
• 36:10
  you're
• 36:10
  going
• 36:10
  to
• 36:10
  hit
• 36:11
  for
• 36:11
  Kevin.
• 36:12
  So
• 36:12
  I
• 36:12
  grabbed
• 36:12
  a
• 36:13
  bat
• 36:13
  and
• 36:13
  sure
• 36:13
  enough,
• 36:13
  the
• 36:14
  guy
• 36:14
  that
• 36:14
  was
• 36:14
  hitting
• 36:15
  had,
• 36:15
  I
• 36:15
  think
• 36:15
  he
• 36:16
  made
• 36:16
  an
• 36:16
  out
• 36:16
  on
• 36:16
  the
• 36:16
  first
• 36:17
  pitch.
• 36:17
  So
• 36:18
  I
• 36:19
  stepped
• 36:19
  up
• 36:19
  there
• 36:20
  as
• 36:20
  tight
• 36:21
  as
• 36:21
  can
• 36:21
  be
• 36:22
  and
• 36:22
  really
• 36:23
  didn't
• 36:23
  have
• 36:23
  a
• 36:23
  chance
• 36:23
  to
• 36:24
  get
• 36:24
  nervous.
• 36:24
  Right.
• 36:25
  Because
• 36:25
  it
• 36:25
  was
• 36:26
  like
• 36:27
  I
• 36:27
  didn't
• 36:27
  really
• 36:27
  have
• 36:27
  time
• 36:28
  to
• 36:28
  even
• 36:28
  think
• 36:28
  about
• 36:28
  the
• 36:29
  at
• 36:29
  bat.
• 36:29
  But
• 36:30
  I
• 36:30
  worked
• 36:30
  the
• 36:30
  count
• 36:30
  to
• 36:31
  three,
• 36:31
  one
• 36:31
  off
• 36:32
  Ed
• 36:32
  Wojna,
• 36:33
  and
• 36:33
  then
• 36:33
  I
• 36:34
  lined
• 36:34
  the
• 36:34
  ball
• 36:34
  to
• 36:34
  right
• 36:35
  field.
• 36:35
  And
• 36:36
  I
• 36:37
  believe
• 36:38
  John
• 36:38
  Kruck
• 36:39
  was
• 36:39
  a
• 36:39
  right
• 36:39
  fielder
• 36:41
  and
• 36:41
  he
• 36:42
  kind
• 36:42
  of
• 36:42
  tried
• 36:42
  to
• 36:42
  do
• 36:43
  a
• 36:43
  half
• 36:43
  dive
• 36:44
  for
• 36:44
  it
• 36:44
  and
• 36:44
  it
• 36:44
  kind
• 36:45
  of
• 36:45
  short
• 36:45
  hopped
• 36:46
  him
• 36:46
  and
• 36:47
  got
• 36:48
  my
• 36:48
  first
• 36:48
  major
• 36:49
  league
• 36:49
  hit.
• 36:49
  I
• 36:49
  think
• 36:50
  if
• 36:50
  Tony
• 36:50
  Gwynn
• 36:50
  was
• 36:50
  in
• 36:51
  right
• 36:51
  field,
• 36:51
  I
• 36:51
  probably
• 36:51
  would
• 36:51
  have
• 36:52
  got
• 36:52
  caught.
• 36:53
  Oh,
• 36:53
  poor
• 36:54
  John
• 36:54
  Kruck.
• 36:55
  Yeah.
• 36:55
  Oh,
• 36:56
  man.
• 36:57
  One
• 36:57
  of
• 36:57
  his
• 36:58
  great
• 36:58
  lines,
• 36:58
  Dave,
• 36:59
  I
• 36:59
  remember
• 37:00
  a
• 37:01
  woman
• 37:01
  said
• 37:02
  he
• 37:02
  was
• 37:02
  smoking
• 37:03
  or
• 37:03
  something
• 37:03
  and
• 37:03
  they
• 37:04
  said
• 37:04
  it's
• 37:04
  terrible
• 37:04
  to
• 37:05
  do
• 37:05
  for
• 37:05
  an
• 37:05
  athlete,
• 37:06
  you
• 37:06
  know,
• 37:06
  and
• 37:07
  he
• 37:07
  said,
• 37:07
  I'm
• 37:07
  not
• 37:07
  an
• 37:07
  athlete,
• 37:08
  I'm
• 37:08
  a
• 37:08
  baseball
• 37:09
  player.
• 37:10
  Yeah,
• 37:11
  I
• 37:11
  remember
• 37:11
  that
• 37:12
  line
• 37:12
  very
• 37:12
  well.
• 37:14
  He
• 37:15
  played
• 37:15
  his
• 37:15
  way
• 37:15
  into
• 37:16
  being
• 37:16
  a
• 37:16
  first
• 37:16
  baseman
• 37:17
  from
• 37:17
  my
• 37:17
  field,
• 37:17
  that's
• 37:18
  for
• 37:18
  sure.
• 37:18
  Yes.
• 37:19
  And
• 37:20
  your
• 37:21
  first
• 37:21
  start
• 37:21
  was
• 37:22
  9-17-86.
• 37:25
  Three
• 37:25
  base
• 37:25
  hits
• 37:26
  and
• 37:26
  you
• 37:26
  reached
• 37:26
  on
• 37:27
  an
• 37:27
  error,
• 37:27
  two
• 37:27
  RBIs
• 37:29
  and
• 37:30
  the
• 37:30
  fans
• 37:31
  kind
• 37:31
  of
• 37:31
  went
• 37:32
  for
• 37:32
  you
• 37:32
  after
• 37:32
  that.
• 37:34
  Yeah,
• 37:35
  it
• 37:35
  was
• 37:35
  a
• 37:35
  very
• 37:35
  humbling
• 37:36
  experience.
• 37:36
  You
• 37:37
  know,
• 37:37
  we
• 37:38
  were,
• 37:39
  I
• 37:39
  believe
• 37:39
  we
• 37:40
  were
• 37:40
  coming
• 37:40
  back
• 37:40
  from
• 37:42
  either
• 37:42
  St.
• 37:43
  Louis
• 37:43
  or
• 37:43
  Philadelphia
• 37:44
  and
• 37:44
  we
• 37:44
  had
• 37:44
  lost
• 37:45
  like
• 37:46
  seven
• 37:46
  or
• 37:46
  eight
• 37:46
  in
• 37:46
  a
• 37:47
  row.
• 37:47
  Well,
• 37:48
  our
• 37:48
  magic
• 37:49
  number
• 37:49
  was
• 37:49
  one.
• 37:50
  And
• 37:50
  the
• 37:51
  Phillies
• 37:51
  kept
• 37:51
  winning
• 37:52
  and
• 37:53
  we
• 37:53
  kept
• 37:53
  losing.
• 37:54
  So
• 37:54
  we
• 37:54
  went
• 37:55
  a
• 37:55
  whole
• 37:55
  road
• 37:55
  trip,
• 37:56
  I
• 37:56
  believe,
• 37:56
  and
• 37:56
  didn't
• 37:56
  win
• 37:57
  a
• 37:57
  game
• 37:58
  and
• 37:58
  the
• 37:58
  Phillies
• 37:59
  kept
• 37:59
  winning.
• 37:59
  So
• 37:59
  it
• 37:59
  was
• 38:00
  still,
• 38:00
  you
• 38:00
  know,
• 38:00
  the
• 38:01
  magic
• 38:01
  number
• 38:01
  was
• 38:01
  one
• 38:02
  or.
• 38:03
  Yeah,
• 38:04
  I
• 38:04
  believe
• 38:04
  it
• 38:04
  was
• 38:05
  one.
• 38:05
  So
• 38:05
  on
• 38:06
  the
• 38:06
  way
• 38:06
  back
• 38:06
  from
• 38:07
  the
• 38:07
  road
• 38:07
  trip,
• 38:08
  Davey
• 38:09
  Johnson
• 38:09
  came
• 38:09
  up
• 38:09
  to
• 38:09
  me
• 38:10
  on
• 38:10
  the
• 38:10
  plane
• 38:10
  and
• 38:10
  said
• 38:10
  that
• 38:11
  I
• 38:11
  was
• 38:11
  going
• 38:11
  to
• 38:11
  get
• 38:11
  a
• 38:11
  chance
• 38:11
  to
• 38:12
  start
• 38:13
  the
• 38:13
  first
• 38:13
  game
• 38:13
  against
• 38:14
  the
• 38:14
  Cubs,
• 38:15
  you
• 38:15
  know,
• 38:15
  the
• 38:15
  game
• 38:15
  that
• 38:16
  we
• 38:16
  were
• 38:16
  going
• 38:16
  to,
• 38:16
  you
• 38:16
  know,
• 38:17
  have
• 38:17
  an
• 38:17
  opportunity
• 38:18
  to
• 38:18
  clinch
• 38:19
  the
• 38:19
  division.
• 38:20
  And
• 38:21
  I
• 38:21
  was.
• 38:22
  Couldn't
• 38:22
  believe,
• 38:23
  you
• 38:23
  know,
• 38:23
  I
• 38:23
  thought
• 38:23
  he
• 38:23
  was
• 38:24
  joking,
• 38:25
  but
• 38:25
  Keith
• 38:25
  was
• 38:26
  sick,
• 38:26
  he
• 38:26
  had
• 38:26
  the
• 38:26
  flu
• 38:27
  and
• 38:27
  he
• 38:27
  wasn't
• 38:28
  going
• 38:28
  to
• 38:28
  be
• 38:28
  able
• 38:28
  to
• 38:28
  play.
• 38:29
  So
• 38:29
  I,
• 38:29
  you
• 38:29
  know,
• 38:30
  I
• 38:30
  got
• 38:30
  the
• 38:30
  start
• 38:30
  and,
• 38:32
  you
• 38:33
  know,
• 38:33
  was
• 38:33
  fortunate
• 38:34
  enough
• 38:34
  to
• 38:34
  get
• 38:34
  three
• 38:35
  hits
• 38:35
  and
• 38:35
  drive
• 38:36
  in
• 38:36
  a
• 38:36
  couple
• 38:36
  runs
• 38:37
  and,
• 38:37
  you
• 38:38
  know,
• 38:38
  got
• 38:38
  a
• 38:38
  standing
• 38:38
  ovation
• 38:39
  about
• 38:39
  the,
• 38:39
  you
• 38:39
  know,
• 38:40
  curtain
• 38:40
  call.
• 38:41
  Came
• 38:41
  out
• 38:41
  with
• 38:42
  dug
• 38:42
  out
• 38:42
  the
• 38:42
  knee.
• 38:42
  I
• 38:42
  didn't
• 38:43
  even
• 38:43
  know
• 38:43
  how
• 38:43
  to
• 38:43
  do
• 38:43
  that.
• 38:43
  They
• 38:44
  had
• 38:44
  to
• 38:44
  kind
• 38:44
  of
• 38:44
  show
• 38:44
  me
• 38:45
  what
• 38:45
  to
• 38:45
  do.
• 38:47
  But
• 38:49
  it
• 38:49
  was
• 38:49
  wonderful.
• 38:50
  It
• 38:50
  was
• 38:51
  a
• 38:51
  dream
• 38:51
  come
• 38:52
  true
• 38:52
  and
• 38:53
  never
• 38:54
  forget
• 38:54
  it.
• 38:54
  What
• 38:55
  were
• 38:55
  your
• 38:55
  memories,
• 38:56
  Dave,
• 38:56
  of
• 38:56
  coming
• 38:56
  into
• 38:57
  that
• 38:57
  clubhouse
• 38:57
  and
• 38:58
  seeing
• 38:58
  these
• 38:58
  guys
• 38:59
  from
• 38:59
  1986?
• 39:01
  What
• 39:01
  were
• 39:01
  your
• 39:02
  thoughts?
• 39:04
  I
• 39:04
  didn't
• 39:05
  want
• 39:05
  to
• 39:05
  get
• 39:05
  in
• 39:05
  anybody's
• 39:06
  way,
• 39:06
  you
• 39:07
  know.
• 39:08
  You
• 39:08
  know,
• 39:08
  there
• 39:08
  were
• 39:08
  A
• 39:08
  few
• 39:08
  of
• 39:09
  us
• 39:09
  that
• 39:09
  got
• 39:09
  called
• 39:09
  up
• 39:10
  in
• 39:10
  September,
• 39:11
  and
• 39:12
  we
• 39:12
  just
• 39:13
  didn't
• 39:14
  want
• 39:14
  to
• 39:15
  step
• 39:15
  on
• 39:15
  any
• 39:16
  toes.
• 39:16
  And,
• 39:17
  you
• 39:17
  know,
• 39:17
  we
• 39:17
  certainly
• 39:19
  got
• 39:19
  a
• 39:19
  small
• 39:20
  opportunity
• 39:21
  to
• 39:21
  be
• 39:21
  able
• 39:21
  to
• 39:21
  play
• 39:21
  some
• 39:22
  games
• 39:22
  and
• 39:22
  rest
• 39:23
  some
• 39:23
  of
• 39:23
  the
• 39:23
  starters
• 39:24
  because
• 39:24
  we
• 39:24
  had
• 39:24
  such
• 39:24
  a
• 39:25
  big
• 39:25
  lead
• 39:25
  in
• 39:25
  the
• 39:25
  division.
• 39:26
  And
• 39:28
  so
• 39:28
  they
• 39:28
  were
• 39:28
  able
• 39:28
  to
• 39:28
  go
• 39:29
  in
• 39:29
  the
• 39:29
  post
• 39:29
  season
• 39:29
  rested,
• 39:31
  but,
• 39:32
  you
• 39:33
  know,
• 39:33
  just
• 39:33
  scared
• 39:33
  to
• 39:34
  death.
• 39:34
  You
• 39:34
  know,
• 39:34
  we
• 39:35
  had
• 39:35
  a
• 39:35
  little
• 39:37
  exposure
• 39:38
  to
• 39:38
  them
• 39:38
  in
• 39:38
  spring
• 39:38
  training
• 39:40
  that
• 39:40
  spring,
• 39:41
  but,
• 39:42
  you
• 39:42
  know,
• 39:42
  I
• 39:42
  think
• 39:42
  I
• 39:42
  went
• 39:43
  down
• 39:43
  with
• 39:43
  the
• 39:43
  first
• 39:43
  cut
• 39:44
  in
• 39:44
  the
• 39:44
  spring,
• 39:44
  so
• 39:45
  I
• 39:45
  didn't
• 39:45
  spend
• 39:45
  a
• 39:45
  whole
• 39:45
  lot
• 39:45
  of
• 39:46
  time
• 39:46
  in
• 39:46
  St.
• 39:47
  Petersburg
• 39:47
  with
• 39:48
  the
• 39:48
  team,
• 39:48
  and
• 39:50
  so
• 39:51
  just
• 39:51
  very
• 39:51
  nervous.
• 39:52
  Just,
• 39:52
  you
• 39:53
  know,
• 39:53
  just
• 39:53
  wanted
• 39:53
  to
• 39:54
  do
• 39:54
  my
• 39:54
  part
• 39:54
  and
• 39:55
  not,
• 39:56
  you
• 39:56
  know,
• 39:56
  piss
• 39:57
  anybody
• 39:57
  off.
• 39:57
  Yeah,
• 39:58
  same
• 39:59
  thing.
• 40:00
  Now,
• 40:00
  later
• 40:01
  on,
• 40:01
  Dave,
• 40:02
  they
• 40:03
  had
• 40:03
  HoJo
• 40:03
  at
• 40:04
  third.
• 40:04
  Keith,
• 40:05
  at
• 40:05
  first
• 40:06
  you
• 40:06
  had
• 40:07
  to
• 40:07
  be
• 40:07
  worried
• 40:07
  about
• 40:08
  playing
• 40:08
  time.
• 40:11
  Yeah,
• 40:11
  absolutely.
• 40:12
  You
• 40:12
  know,
• 40:13
  it's
• 40:13
  one
• 40:13
  thing
• 40:14
  you
• 40:14
  finally
• 40:15
  get
• 40:15
  to
• 40:15
  the
• 40:15
  big
• 40:15
  leagues
• 40:16
  and,
• 40:16
  you
• 40:17
  know,
• 40:17
  it's
• 40:17
  a
• 40:17
  dream
• 40:17
  come
• 40:18
  true,
• 40:18
  but
• 40:18
  now
• 40:18
  you
• 40:18
  got
• 40:19
  to
• 40:19
  figure
• 40:19
  out
• 40:19
  a
• 40:19
  way
• 40:19
  to
• 40:19
  stay.
• 40:21
  And,
• 40:21
  you
• 40:22
  know,
• 40:22
  Hojo
• 40:23
  ended
• 40:23
  up,
• 40:23
  you
• 40:23
  know,
• 40:23
  I
• 40:23
  made
• 40:24
  the
• 40:24
  team
• 40:24
  out
• 40:24
  of
• 40:24
  spring
• 40:24
  training
• 40:25
  in
• 40:26
  87,
• 40:27
  and,
• 40:28
  you
• 40:28
  know,
• 40:28
  Hojo
• 40:29
  ended
• 40:29
  up
• 40:29
  getting.
• 40:30
  I
• 40:30
  ended
• 40:30
  up
• 40:30
  getting.
• 40:32
  Had
• 40:32
  to
• 40:32
  have
• 40:32
  surgery
• 40:33
  in
• 40:33
  the
• 40:33
  spring.
• 40:34
  So
• 40:34
  I
• 40:34
  joined
• 40:35
  the
• 40:35
  team
• 40:35
  late
• 40:35
  in
• 40:36
  April,
• 40:37
  and
• 40:37
  Hojo
• 40:38
  just
• 40:38
  got
• 40:38
  off
• 40:39
  to
• 40:39
  a
• 40:39
  great
• 40:39
  start,
• 40:40
  you
• 40:40
  know,
• 40:40
  had
• 40:40
  his
• 40:41
  30,
• 40:41
  30
• 40:41
  season,
• 40:42
  and,
• 40:42
  you
• 40:42
  know,
• 40:43
  it
• 40:43
  was
• 40:43
  just
• 40:43
  remarkable
• 40:45
  the
• 40:45
  year
• 40:45
  that
• 40:45
  he
• 40:45
  had
• 40:46
  that
• 40:46
  year.
• 40:46
  So
• 40:47
  I
• 40:47
  had
• 40:47
  to
• 40:47
  figure
• 40:48
  out
• 40:48
  a
• 40:48
  way
• 40:48
  to
• 40:48
  stay.
• 40:49
  So,
• 40:49
  you
• 40:50
  know
• 40:50
  what?
• 40:50
  Literally,
• 40:51
  I
• 40:51
  think
• 40:51
  I
• 40:51
  ended
• 40:51
  up
• 40:52
  only
• 40:52
  getting
• 40:52
  a
• 40:52
  little
• 40:52
  over
• 40:53
  200
• 40:53
  plate
• 40:53
  appearances
• 40:54
  that
• 40:55
  rookie
• 40:55
  year,
• 40:55
  and,
• 40:57
  you
• 40:57
  know,
• 40:57
  had
• 40:57
  to
• 40:58
  make
• 40:58
  the.
• 40:58
  Make
• 40:58
  the
• 40:58
  most
• 40:59
  of
• 40:59
  it
• 40:59
  and
• 40:59
  had
• 40:59
  to
• 41:00
  prove
• 41:00
  my
• 41:01
  value
• 41:01
  coming
• 41:01
  off
• 41:02
  the
• 41:02
  bench
• 41:02
  as
• 41:02
  a
• 41:02
  pinch
• 41:02
  hitter
• 41:03
  and
• 41:04
  being
• 41:04
  a
• 41:05
  guy
• 41:05
  that
• 41:05
  could
• 41:06
  sit
• 41:06
  for,
• 41:06
  you
• 41:07
  know,
• 41:07
  a
• 41:07
  week
• 41:07
  or
• 41:07
  two
• 41:08
  and
• 41:08
  still
• 41:08
  come
• 41:08
  out
• 41:08
  and
• 41:08
  give
• 41:09
  you
• 41:09
  good
• 41:09
  at
• 41:09
  bats
• 41:09
  and
• 41:10
  play
• 41:10
  decent
• 41:10
  defense.
• 41:12
  And
• 41:12
  I
• 41:12
  learned
• 41:13
  at
• 41:13
  a
• 41:14
  very
• 41:14
  early
• 41:15
  age
• 41:15
  that
• 41:16
  it
• 41:17
  doesn't
• 41:17
  matter
• 41:17
  how
• 41:18
  much
• 41:18
  of
• 41:18
  a
• 41:18
  prospect
• 41:19
  you
• 41:19
  are
• 41:19
  or
• 41:19
  what
• 41:19
  you
• 41:19
  did
• 41:20
  in
• 41:20
  the
• 41:20
  morning
• 41:20
  minor
• 41:20
  leagues,
• 41:20
  you
• 41:21
  got
• 41:21
  to
• 41:21
  do
• 41:21
  things
• 41:21
  to,
• 41:22
  you
• 41:23
  know,
• 41:23
  keep
• 41:23
  yourself
• 41:23
  in
• 41:24
  the
• 41:24
  big
• 41:24
  leagues
• 41:24
  and
• 41:25
  prove
• 41:26
  that
• 41:26
  you
• 41:26
  have
• 41:26
  value
• 41:26
  up
• 41:27
  there.
• 41:27
  So
• 41:28
  I
• 41:28
  learned
• 41:28
  that.
• 41:29
  Had
• 41:29
  good
• 41:30
  tutors
• 41:31
  with
• 41:31
  me
• 41:31
  with,
• 41:32
  you
• 41:32
  know,
• 41:32
  had
• 41:32
  Lee
• 41:32
  Mazzilli
• 41:33
  there.
• 41:33
  That
• 41:33
  was,
• 41:34
  you
• 41:34
  know,
• 41:35
  gave
• 41:35
  me
• 41:35
  a
• 41:35
  lot
• 41:35
  of
• 41:35
  great
• 41:36
  advice
• 41:36
  on
• 41:37
  how
• 41:37
  to
• 41:37
  hit
• 41:37
  off
• 41:37
  the
• 41:37
  bench.
• 41:38
  I'd
• 41:38
  never
• 41:38
  really
• 41:38
  done
• 41:39
  that
• 41:39
  before.
• 41:40
  Always
• 41:40
  an
• 41:41
  everyday
• 41:41
  player
• 41:41
  in
• 41:41
  the
• 41:41
  minor,
• 41:42
  so
• 41:42
  it
• 41:42
  was
• 41:43
  certainly
• 41:43
  a
• 41:43
  learning
• 41:43
  experience.
• 41:44
  I
• 41:44
  think
• 41:44
  I
• 41:44
  started
• 41:45
  out
• 41:45
  that
• 41:45
  year
• 41:45
  like
• 41:46
  1
• 41:46
  for
• 41:46
  18
• 41:47
  as
• 41:47
  a
• 41:47
  pinch
• 41:48
  hitter,
• 41:49
  and
• 41:49
  I
• 41:50
  think
• 41:50
  I
• 41:50
  ended
• 41:51
  up
• 41:51
  6
• 41:52
  for
• 41:52
  30.
• 41:53
  So
• 41:54
  not
• 41:54
  bad.
• 41:54
  I
• 41:55
  came
• 41:55
  on
• 41:55
  at
• 41:55
  the
• 41:55
  end
• 41:56
  and
• 41:57
  A
• 41:57
  lot
• 41:57
  of
• 41:57
  that
• 41:57
  was
• 41:57
  Limuzzulli
• 41:58
  helping
• 41:58
  me
• 41:59
  out.
• 41:59
  Nice.
• 41:59
  Okay,
• 42:00
  1989,
• 42:02
  Dave,
• 42:02
  injuries
• 42:03
  to
• 42:04
  Keith
• 42:04
  Hernandez.
• 42:06
  Did
• 42:06
  you
• 42:06
  feel
• 42:06
  pressured
• 42:07
  to
• 42:07
  live
• 42:07
  up
• 42:08
  to
• 42:08
  any
• 42:09
  defensive
• 42:10
  expectations
• 42:11
  that
• 42:12
  everyone
• 42:13
  might
• 42:13
  have
• 42:13
  for
• 42:13
  you?
• 42:15
  Well,
• 42:16
  I
• 42:16
  knew
• 42:16
  that
• 42:17
  obviously,
• 42:17
  Keith
• 42:18
  is
• 42:18
  one
• 42:18
  of
• 42:18
  the
• 42:18
  greatest
• 42:19
  first
• 42:19
  basemen
• 42:19
  of
• 42:20
  all
• 42:20
  time,
• 42:20
  and
• 42:22
  certainly
• 42:22
  I
• 42:23
  felt
• 42:23
  like
• 42:23
  I
• 42:23
  was
• 42:23
  a
• 42:23
  good
• 42:23
  first
• 42:24
  baseman,
• 42:24
  but,
• 42:25
  you
• 42:25
  know,
• 42:25
  I
• 42:25
  had
• 42:26
  to
• 42:26
  be
• 42:26
  myself.
• 42:26
  You
• 42:27
  know,
• 42:27
  I
• 42:27
  was
• 42:27
  not
• 42:28
  going
• 42:28
  to
• 42:28
  be
• 42:28
  able
• 42:28
  to
• 42:28
  compete
• 42:29
  with
• 42:29
  what
• 42:29
  he
• 42:29
  could
• 42:29
  do
• 42:29
  out
• 42:30
  there
• 42:30
  on
• 42:30
  defense,
• 42:31
  and
• 42:32
  I
• 42:33
  just
• 42:33
  needed
• 42:33
  to
• 42:33
  do
• 42:34
  what
• 42:34
  I
• 42:34
  was
• 42:34
  capable
• 42:35
  of
• 42:35
  doing.
• 42:35
  I
• 42:35
  think
• 42:35
  what
• 42:35
  he
• 42:36
  was
• 42:36
  really
• 42:36
  good
• 42:36
  at
• 42:37
  was
• 42:37
  being
• 42:37
  a
• 42:37
  good
• 42:37
  leader
• 42:38
  out
• 42:38
  there,
• 42:38
  and
• 42:39
  I
• 42:39
  certainly
• 42:39
  tried
• 42:40
  to
• 42:41
  following
• 42:41
  his
• 42:42
  footsteps,
• 42:43
  you
• 42:43
  know,
• 42:43
  talking
• 42:43
  to
• 42:43
  the
• 42:43
  pitchers
• 42:44
  and,
• 42:44
  you
• 42:45
  know,
• 42:45
  pumping
• 42:45
  them
• 42:45
  up
• 42:46
  and
• 42:46
  trying
• 42:46
  to,
• 42:47
  you
• 42:47
  know,
• 42:47
  keep
• 42:47
  them
• 42:48
  confident
• 42:48
  and,
• 42:49
  you
• 42:49
  know,
• 42:49
  throw
• 42:50
  the
• 42:50
  ball
• 42:50
  over
• 42:50
  the
• 42:50
  plate.
• 42:50
  Let
• 42:51
  us
• 42:51
  play
• 42:51
  some
• 42:51
  defense
• 42:52
  here.
• 42:52
  We're
• 42:52
  going
• 42:52
  to
• 42:52
  make
• 42:52
  plays
• 42:53
  for
• 42:53
  you
• 42:53
  and
• 42:53
  stuff
• 42:53
  like
• 42:54
  that.
• 42:54
  But
• 42:55
  it
• 42:56
  was
• 42:56
  great
• 42:56
  playing
• 42:57
  behind
• 42:57
  Keith
• 42:58
  because
• 42:58
  I
• 42:58
  learned
• 42:58
  a
• 42:58
  lot
• 42:59
  from
• 42:59
  him,
• 43:00
  and
• 43:00
  I
• 43:01
  think
• 43:01
  it
• 43:01
  eventually
• 43:01
  made
• 43:01
  me
• 43:02
  a
• 43:02
  better
• 43:02
  teammate
• 43:03
  and
• 43:03
  a
• 43:03
  better
• 43:03
  defensive
• 43:04
  player
• 43:05
  and
• 43:05
  a
• 43:05
  better
• 43:05
  hitter.
• 43:08
  But
• 43:08
  I
• 43:08
  was
• 43:08
  not,
• 43:09
  you
• 43:09
  know,
• 43:09
  in
• 43:09
  any
• 43:10
  way
• 43:10
  thinking
• 43:10
  I
• 43:10
  was
• 43:11
  going
• 43:11
  to
• 43:11
  be
• 43:11
  able
• 43:11
  to
• 43:11
  replace
• 43:12
  what
• 43:12
  he
• 43:12
  could
• 43:12
  do
• 43:12
  on
• 43:12
  defense.
• 43:13
  I
• 43:13
  just,
• 43:13
  you
• 43:14
  know,
• 43:14
  all
• 43:14
  I
• 43:14
  can
• 43:14
  do
• 43:15
  is
• 43:15
  what
• 43:15
  I'm
• 43:15
  capable
• 43:16
  of
• 43:16
  doing,
• 43:16
  and
• 43:16
  that's
• 43:17
  what
• 43:17
  I
• 43:17
  tried
• 43:17
  to
• 43:17
  do.
• 43:18
  We're
• 43:18
  speaking
• 43:18
  with
• 43:18
  Dave
• 43:19
  Magadan
• 43:19
  tonight
• 43:19
  on
• 43:20
  Sports
• 43:20
  talk
• 43:20
  New
• 43:21
  York.
• 43:21
  Now,
• 43:22
  1990,
• 43:23
  Dave,
• 43:23
  they
• 43:24
  don't
• 43:24
  offer
• 43:24
  Keith
• 43:25
  a
• 43:25
  contract,
• 43:26
  but
• 43:26
  in
• 43:27
  a
• 43:27
  very
• 43:27
  Metzian
• 43:28
  move,
• 43:29
  they
• 43:29
  trade
• 43:30
  Juan
• 43:30
  Samwell
• 43:31
  to
• 43:31
  the
• 43:31
  Dodgers
• 43:32
  for
• 43:33
  Mike
• 43:33
  Marshall,
• 43:34
  a
• 43:34
  first
• 43:34
  baseman.
• 43:35
  So
• 43:35
  what
• 43:35
  were
• 43:35
  your
• 43:36
  thoughts
• 43:36
  then?
• 43:38
  Well,
• 43:38
  I
• 43:39
  couldn't
• 43:39
  blame
• 43:39
  him.
• 43:40
  You
• 43:40
  know,
• 43:41
  in
• 43:41
  89,
• 43:41
  I
• 43:41
  had
• 43:42
  an
• 43:42
  okay
• 43:42
  year,
• 43:43
  but,
• 43:43
  you
• 43:43
  know,
• 43:43
  for
• 43:44
  a
• 43:44
  guy
• 43:44
  that
• 43:44
  was
• 43:44
  playing
• 43:45
  the
• 43:45
  corner
• 43:46
  infield
• 43:46
  position,
• 43:47
  I
• 43:47
  didn't
• 43:47
  hit
• 43:47
  for
• 43:48
  any
• 43:48
  power.
• 43:48
  And
• 43:49
  I
• 43:49
  think
• 43:50
  that
• 43:50
  year
• 43:50
  I
• 43:50
  hit
• 43:51
  right
• 43:51
  around
• 43:51
  280
• 43:52
  or
• 43:52
  285,
• 43:53
  something
• 43:53
  like
• 43:53
  that.
• 43:54
  And,
• 43:55
  you
• 43:56
  know,
• 43:56
  I
• 43:57
  didn't
• 43:57
  do
• 43:57
  enough
• 43:57
  for
• 43:57
  them
• 43:58
  to
• 43:58
  just
• 43:58
  hand
• 43:58
  me
• 43:58
  the
• 43:59
  job.
• 44:00
  So
• 44:00
  I
• 44:00
  wasn't
• 44:00
  surprised
• 44:01
  they
• 44:01
  made
• 44:01
  the
• 44:01
  trade
• 44:03
  for
• 44:03
  somebody
• 44:04
  that
• 44:04
  was
• 44:04
  going
• 44:04
  to
• 44:05
  provide
• 44:05
  a
• 44:05
  little
• 44:05
  bit
• 44:06
  of
• 44:06
  thump.
• 44:06
  But
• 44:06
  I
• 44:07
  knew
• 44:07
  in
• 44:07
  the
• 44:07
  back
• 44:07
  of
• 44:08
  my
• 44:08
  mind
• 44:08
  that
• 44:08
  Mike
• 44:08
  was
• 44:09
  a
• 44:09
  guy
• 44:09
  that
• 44:09
  was
• 44:09
  hurt
• 44:10
  a
• 44:10
  lot,
• 44:10
  had
• 44:11
  back
• 44:11
  issues,
• 44:11
  and
• 44:14
  I
• 44:14
  kind
• 44:14
  of
• 44:14
  went
• 44:14
  into
• 44:15
  that
• 44:15
  season
• 44:16
  with
• 44:16
  the
• 44:17
  attitude,
• 44:17
  just
• 44:18
  stay
• 44:18
  ready,
• 44:19
  because
• 44:19
  I
• 44:19
  was
• 44:19
  going
• 44:19
  to
• 44:20
  get,
• 44:20
  I
• 44:20
  think
• 44:20
  sooner
• 44:21
  or
• 44:21
  later
• 44:21
  I
• 44:21
  was
• 44:21
  going
• 44:21
  to
• 44:21
  get
• 44:22
  my
• 44:22
  opportunity
• 44:22
  to
• 44:23
  play.
• 44:24
  And,
• 44:25
  you
• 44:25
  know,
• 44:25
  it
• 44:26
  was
• 44:26
  frustrating
• 44:26
  at
• 44:26
  the
• 44:26
  beginning
• 44:27
  because
• 44:27
  I
• 44:28
  didn't
• 44:28
  play
• 44:28
  very
• 44:28
  much
• 44:28
  the
• 44:29
  first
• 44:29
  month,
• 44:29
  and.
• 44:30
  And
• 44:31
  he
• 44:31
  ended
• 44:31
  up
• 44:31
  having
• 44:32
  some
• 44:32
  stuff
• 44:32
  happen
• 44:33
  that
• 44:33
  I
• 44:33
  got
• 44:33
  to
• 44:34
  play
• 44:34
  some.
• 44:34
  And
• 44:34
  then,
• 44:35
  you
• 44:35
  know,
• 44:35
  I
• 44:36
  had
• 44:36
  a
• 44:36
  really
• 44:37
  Good
• 44:37
  game
• 44:37
  in
• 44:37
  Chicago
• 44:39
  when
• 44:39
  he
• 44:39
  was
• 44:39
  out
• 44:39
  with
• 44:40
  his.
• 44:40
  With
• 44:40
  a
• 44:40
  back
• 44:40
  issue
• 44:41
  and,
• 44:42
  you
• 44:43
  know,
• 44:43
  and
• 44:43
  then
• 44:43
  I
• 44:44
  never
• 44:44
  came
• 44:44
  out
• 44:44
  of
• 44:44
  the
• 44:45
  lineup
• 44:45
  after
• 44:45
  that.
• 44:46
  Too
• 44:46
  much
• 44:46
  Belinda
• 44:47
  Carlisle,
• 44:48
  that's
• 44:48
  the
• 44:48
  problem,
• 44:49
  right?
• 44:50
  Mike
• 44:50
  Marshall.
• 44:52
  Look
• 44:52
  that
• 44:53
  up,
• 44:53
  folks.
• 44:53
  Google
• 44:54
  it.
• 44:54
  You'll
• 44:54
  see
• 44:55
  what
• 44:55
  I'm
• 44:55
  talking
• 44:55
  about.
• 44:56
  Dave,
• 44:56
  you
• 44:57
  were
• 44:57
  moved
• 44:57
  to
• 44:57
  third
• 44:58
  later
• 44:59
  to
• 44:59
  accommodate
• 45:00
  Eddie
• 45:00
  Murray,
• 45:01
  right?
• 45:03
  Yeah,
• 45:03
  I
• 45:03
  still
• 45:04
  played
• 45:04
  some
• 45:05
  third
• 45:05
  base
• 45:05
  on
• 45:06
  and
• 45:06
  off
• 45:07
  before
• 45:08
  Eddie
• 45:08
  came
• 45:09
  on.
• 45:09
  I
• 45:10
  know
• 45:10
  that
• 45:10
  year
• 45:10
  in
• 45:10
  1990,
• 45:13
  I
• 45:13
  would
• 45:13
  play
• 45:14
  first,
• 45:14
  but
• 45:14
  then
• 45:16
  to
• 45:16
  get,
• 45:16
  I
• 45:16
  think,
• 45:17
  tough
• 45:17
  on
• 45:17
  the
• 45:17
  lineup,
• 45:18
  I
• 45:18
  would
• 45:18
  move
• 45:18
  over
• 45:19
  to
• 45:19
  third
• 45:19
  and
• 45:19
  he
• 45:19
  would
• 45:20
  play
• 45:20
  first.
• 45:20
  And,
• 45:21
  you
• 45:21
  know,
• 45:22
  so
• 45:23
  I
• 45:23
  was
• 45:23
  still
• 45:23
  getting
• 45:24
  my
• 45:25
  time
• 45:25
  over
• 45:26
  at
• 45:26
  third
• 45:26
  base,
• 45:27
  but
• 45:28
  certainly
• 45:28
  when
• 45:28
  Eddie
• 45:29
  came
• 45:29
  in,
• 45:30
  obviously
• 45:31
  future
• 45:31
  hall
• 45:32
  of
• 45:32
  Famer
• 45:32
  at
• 45:32
  the
• 45:32
  time
• 45:33
  and
• 45:34
  proven
• 45:35
  elite
• 45:36
  major
• 45:36
  league
• 45:37
  player
• 45:37
  that,
• 45:37
  you
• 45:38
  know,
• 45:38
  I
• 45:38
  was
• 45:38
  going
• 45:38
  to
• 45:39
  have
• 45:39
  to
• 45:39
  play
• 45:39
  some
• 45:39
  more
• 45:39
  third.
• 45:40
  And
• 45:40
  they
• 45:41
  ended
• 45:41
  up
• 45:41
  signing
• 45:42
  Bill
• 45:42
  Pakota
• 45:44
  to
• 45:44
  kind
• 45:44
  of
• 45:44
  be
• 45:44
  a
• 45:44
  platoon
• 45:45
  with
• 45:45
  me
• 45:45
  at
• 45:45
  third.
• 45:46
  I
• 45:46
  think
• 45:46
  I
• 45:46
  ended
• 45:46
  up
• 45:47
  playing
• 45:48
  most
• 45:48
  of
• 45:48
  the
• 45:48
  time
• 45:48
  at
• 45:49
  third
• 45:49
  because
• 45:50
  he
• 45:50
  struggled
• 45:50
  a
• 45:50
  little
• 45:51
  bit
• 45:52
  and
• 45:52
  then
• 45:53
  was
• 45:54
  having
• 45:54
  a
• 45:54
  great
• 45:54
  year.
• 45:54
  I
• 45:55
  was
• 45:55
  in
• 45:55
  over
• 45:55
  300
• 45:56
  and
• 45:56
  then
• 45:56
  I
• 45:56
  went
• 45:56
  like
• 45:56
  over
• 45:58
  15,
• 45:58
  and
• 45:59
  then
• 45:59
  I
• 45:59
  got
• 45:59
  hurt
• 46:00
  and
• 46:00
  broke
• 46:00
  my
• 46:00
  hand
• 46:01
  and
• 46:02
  that
• 46:02
  ended
• 46:02
  my
• 46:03
  season.
• 46:03
  So.
• 46:04
  Yeah,
• 46:06
  and
• 46:06
  the
• 46:07
  rest
• 46:07
  is
• 46:07
  history,
• 46:07
  as
• 46:08
  they
• 46:08
  say
• 46:08
  now.
• 46:09
  How
• 46:09
  did
• 46:09
  you
• 46:09
  feel
• 46:10
  about
• 46:10
  leaving
• 46:10
  the
• 46:10
  Mets,
• 46:11
  Dave?
• 46:13
  Well,
• 46:14
  I
• 46:14
  knew
• 46:15
  I
• 46:15
  wasn't.
• 46:16
  I
• 46:16
  probably
• 46:16
  wasn't
• 46:17
  going
• 46:17
  to
• 46:17
  come
• 46:17
  back.
• 46:18
  You
• 46:19
  know,
• 46:19
  they.
• 46:19
  I'd
• 46:20
  been
• 46:20
  there
• 46:20
  for
• 46:20
  six
• 46:21
  years
• 46:21
  and,
• 46:23
  you
• 46:23
  know,
• 46:24
  kind
• 46:24
  of
• 46:24
  had
• 46:24
  two.
• 46:25
  I
• 46:25
  had
• 46:25
  the
• 46:25
  really
• 46:25
  good
• 46:26
  year
• 46:26
  in
• 46:26
  1990,
• 46:26
  but
• 46:27
  91
• 46:27
  and
• 46:27
  92.
• 46:28
  92
• 46:28
  is
• 46:29
  probably
• 46:29
  better
• 46:29
  than.
• 46:30
  Well,
• 46:30
  for
• 46:30
  sure
• 46:30
  it
• 46:30
  was
• 46:31
  better
• 46:31
  than
• 46:31
  91,
• 46:32
  but
• 46:33
  I
• 46:34
  knew
• 46:34
  they
• 46:34
  were
• 46:34
  looking
• 46:34
  to
• 46:35
  move
• 46:35
  on.
• 46:36
  I
• 46:37
  knew
• 46:37
  I
• 46:37
  had
• 46:37
  an
• 46:37
  opportunity
• 46:38
  to.
• 46:40
  There
• 46:40
  were
• 46:40
  a
• 46:40
  couple
• 46:40
  of
• 46:40
  expansion
• 46:41
  teams
• 46:41
  coming
• 46:42
  in,
• 46:42
  and
• 46:42
  I
• 46:42
  was
• 46:43
  going
• 46:43
  to
• 46:43
  get
• 46:43
  an
• 46:43
  opportunity
• 46:43
  to
• 46:44
  maybe
• 46:44
  sign
• 46:44
  with
• 46:45
  one
• 46:45
  of
• 46:45
  them,
• 46:45
  if
• 46:46
  not
• 46:46
  one
• 46:47
  of
• 46:47
  the
• 46:47
  other
• 46:47
  teams.
• 46:48
  And
• 46:49
  sure
• 46:50
  enough,
• 46:50
  the
• 46:50
  Marlins
• 46:51
  came
• 46:51
  knocking
• 46:51
  and
• 46:52
  I
• 46:52
  was
• 46:52
  able
• 46:52
  to
• 46:52
  sign
• 46:53
  with
• 46:53
  them
• 46:53
  and
• 46:54
  come
• 46:54
  back
• 46:54
  home.
• 46:55
  Now,
• 46:55
  you're
• 46:56
  linked
• 46:56
  to
• 46:56
  Nolan
• 46:57
  Ryan
• 46:57
  in
• 46:57
  a
• 46:57
  way
• 46:58
  that
• 46:58
  people
• 46:59
  may
• 47:00
  not
• 47:00
  be
• 47:00
  aware
• 47:01
  of.
• 47:02
  You
• 47:03
  know
• 47:03
  about
• 47:03
  that,
• 47:04
  right?
• 47:05
  I
• 47:05
  do.
• 47:07
  I
• 47:07
  was
• 47:07
  in
• 47:07
  Seattle.
• 47:08
  How
• 47:08
  you're
• 47:08
  linked
• 47:09
  to
• 47:09
  Nolan
• 47:09
  Ryan,
• 47:09
  Dave?
• 47:10
  Yeah,
• 47:12
  so
• 47:12
  I'd
• 47:13
  faced
• 47:13
  Nolan
• 47:13
  a
• 47:14
  good
• 47:14
  bit
• 47:14
  in
• 47:14
  my
• 47:15
  career
• 47:15
  when
• 47:15
  he
• 47:16
  was
• 47:16
  in
• 47:16
  Houston,
• 47:16
  then
• 47:17
  he
• 47:17
  went
• 47:17
  over
• 47:17
  to
• 47:17
  Texas
• 47:18
  to
• 47:18
  finish
• 47:18
  out
• 47:18
  his
• 47:19
  career,
• 47:19
  and
• 47:19
  I
• 47:19
  was
• 47:19
  with
• 47:19
  the
• 47:20
  Mariners
• 47:21
  and
• 47:22
  he
• 47:23
  was
• 47:23
  starting
• 47:23
  the
• 47:24
  game
• 47:24
  against
• 47:24
  us.
• 47:25
  And,
• 47:25
  you
• 47:25
  know,
• 47:26
  obviously
• 47:26
  I
• 47:26
  saw
• 47:26
  him
• 47:27
  at
• 47:27
  his.
• 47:28
  Pretty
• 47:28
  much
• 47:29
  the.
• 47:29
  Not
• 47:30
  the
• 47:30
  height
• 47:30
  of
• 47:30
  his
• 47:30
  career,
• 47:30
  but
• 47:31
  when
• 47:31
  he
• 47:31
  was
• 47:32
  still
• 47:32
  putting
• 47:32
  up
• 47:32
  great
• 47:32
  numbers
• 47:33
  and
• 47:34
  punching
• 47:34
  guys
• 47:34
  out
• 47:36
  when
• 47:36
  he
• 47:36
  was
• 47:36
  in
• 47:36
  Houston.
• 47:37
  But
• 47:37
  that
• 47:38
  day,
• 47:38
  when
• 47:38
  I
• 47:38
  think
• 47:39
  I
• 47:39
  was
• 47:39
  hitting
• 47:40
  fifth
• 47:40
  or
• 47:40
  Sixth
• 47:40
  in
• 47:41
  the
• 47:41
  lineup
• 47:41
  that
• 47:41
  day.
• 47:42
  And
• 47:44
  he
• 47:44
  looked
• 47:44
  like
• 47:44
  he
• 47:44
  was
• 47:45
  throwing
• 47:45
  about
• 47:45
  85
• 47:46
  miles
• 47:46
  an
• 47:46
  hour.
• 47:46
  I
• 47:47
  mean,
• 47:47
  the
• 47:47
  ball
• 47:47
  was
• 47:47
  not
• 47:48
  coming
• 47:48
  out
• 47:48
  of
• 47:48
  his
• 47:48
  hand
• 47:48
  very
• 47:49
  good.
• 47:49
  And
• 47:50
  sure
• 47:50
  enough,
• 47:51
  we
• 47:51
  loaded
• 47:51
  the
• 47:51
  bases
• 47:52
  on
• 47:52
  him
• 47:52
  and
• 47:52
  the
• 47:52
  guy
• 47:52
  in
• 47:52
  front
• 47:53
  of
• 47:53
  me
• 47:53
  hit
• 47:53
  a
• 47:53
  grand
• 47:53
  slam,
• 47:54
  Dan
• 47:54
  Howitt.
• 47:57
  And
• 47:57
  then
• 47:57
  I
• 47:57
  went
• 47:57
  up
• 47:58
  the
• 47:58
  bat
• 47:58
  against
• 47:58
  him
• 47:59
  and
• 48:00
  he
• 48:00
  just,
• 48:01
  he
• 48:01
  looked
• 48:02
  like
• 48:02
  he
• 48:02
  was
• 48:02
  basically
• 48:03
  just
• 48:03
  trying
• 48:03
  to
• 48:03
  get
• 48:03
  the
• 48:03
  ball
• 48:04
  over
• 48:04
  and
• 48:05
  he
• 48:05
  got
• 48:05
  the
• 48:05
  count.
• 48:06
  I
• 48:07
  believe
• 48:07
  he
• 48:07
  got
• 48:07
  it
• 48:08
  to
• 48:10
  2
• 48:10
  0,
• 48:11
  threw
• 48:11
  a
• 48:12
  strike,
• 48:12
  threw
• 48:13
  another
• 48:13
  ball,
• 48:13
  and
• 48:14
  on
• 48:14
  the
• 48:14
  ball,
• 48:15
  that
• 48:15
  fourth
• 48:16
  pitch,
• 48:16
  he
• 48:17
  walked
• 48:17
  off
• 48:17
  the
• 48:17
  mound
• 48:18
  and
• 48:18
  he
• 48:18
  never
• 48:19
  pitched
• 48:19
  again.
• 48:19
  So
• 48:20
  I
• 48:20
  was
• 48:21
  the
• 48:21
  last
• 48:21
  guy
• 48:21
  to
• 48:21
  ever
• 48:22
  face
• 48:22
  Nolan
• 48:22
  Ryan.
• 48:23
  Yeah,
• 48:24
  what
• 48:25
  a
• 48:25
  great
• 48:26
  footnote
• 48:29
  and
• 48:30
  what
• 48:30
  a
• 48:30
  sad
• 48:30
  end
• 48:31
  to
• 48:31
  a
• 48:32
  tremendous
• 48:32
  hall
• 48:33
  of
• 48:33
  Fame
• 48:33
  career
• 48:33
  for
• 48:33
  Nolan
• 48:34
  Ryan.
• 48:35
  Dave
• 48:35
  Magadan
• 48:36
  with
• 48:36
  us
• 48:36
  tonight
• 48:36
  on
• 48:36
  the
• 48:37
  program.
• 48:37
  Now,
• 48:37
  what
• 48:38
  made
• 48:38
  you
• 48:38
  decide
• 48:39
  to
• 48:39
  get
• 48:39
  into
• 48:39
  coaching?
• 48:40
  Dave?
• 48:43
  Well,
• 48:44
  I
• 48:44
  think
• 48:44
  it
• 48:44
  was
• 48:44
  a
• 48:45
  lot.
• 48:46
  I
• 48:46
  think
• 48:46
  my
• 48:47
  last
• 48:48
  three
• 48:48
  years
• 48:48
  in
• 48:49
  San
• 48:49
  Diego
• 48:49
  as
• 48:49
  a
• 48:50
  player,
• 48:51
  I
• 48:52
  felt
• 48:52
  like
• 48:53
  a
• 48:53
  lot
• 48:53
  of
• 48:53
  guys
• 48:53
  came
• 48:54
  up
• 48:54
  to
• 48:54
  me
• 48:55
  and
• 48:55
  would
• 48:55
  ask
• 48:56
  my
• 48:56
  opinion
• 48:56
  about
• 48:57
  whether,
• 48:57
  you
• 48:57
  know,
• 48:58
  whether
• 48:58
  it
• 48:58
  was
• 48:58
  something
• 48:58
  they
• 48:59
  were
• 48:59
  doing
• 48:59
  wrong
• 48:59
  at
• 48:59
  the
• 48:59
  plate
• 49:00
  or
• 49:01
  maybe
• 49:03
  a
• 49:03
  mindset
• 49:04
  to
• 49:04
  go
• 49:04
  up
• 49:04
  to
• 49:04
  the
• 49:05
  plate
• 49:05
  with.
• 49:05
  And
• 49:06
  you
• 49:07
  know,
• 49:07
  Dwayne
• 49:07
  Espy,
• 49:08
  who
• 49:08
  was
• 49:08
  our
• 49:08
  hitting
• 49:08
  coach
• 49:10
  my
• 49:10
  last
• 49:10
  couple
• 49:10
  years
• 49:11
  there,
• 49:11
  he
• 49:11
  was
• 49:13
  a
• 49:13
  great
• 49:14
  guy
• 49:14
  to
• 49:14
  learn
• 49:14
  from.
• 49:15
  And
• 49:15
  I
• 49:15
  kind
• 49:15
  of
• 49:16
  had
• 49:16
  an
• 49:16
  eye
• 49:16
  towards
• 49:17
  maybe
• 49:17
  coaching
• 49:17
  when
• 49:18
  I
• 49:18
  was.
• 49:19
  And
• 49:19
  after
• 49:19
  my
• 49:19
  last
• 49:20
  year
• 49:20
  in
• 49:20
  San
• 49:20
  Diego
• 49:21
  at
• 49:21
  the
• 49:21
  end
• 49:21
  of
• 49:21
  the
• 49:22
  year,
• 49:22
  Kevin
• 49:23
  Towers,
• 49:24
  God
• 49:24
  rest
• 49:24
  his
• 49:25
  soul,
• 49:25
  he
• 49:25
  was
• 49:25
  our
• 49:25
  general
• 49:25
  manager
• 49:27
  and
• 49:27
  he
• 49:28
  came
• 49:28
  up
• 49:28
  to
• 49:28
  me,
• 49:28
  he
• 49:29
  said,
• 49:29
  listen,
• 49:29
  I
• 49:29
  don't
• 49:29
  know
• 49:29
  if
• 49:30
  you
• 49:30
  want
• 49:30
  to
• 49:30
  play
• 49:30
  anymore,
• 49:31
  but
• 49:31
  go
• 49:32
  ahead
• 49:32
  and
• 49:32
  file
• 49:33
  for
• 49:33
  free
• 49:33
  agency.
• 49:34
  We're
• 49:34
  not
• 49:34
  going
• 49:34
  to
• 49:34
  bring
• 49:35
  you
• 49:35
  back
• 49:35
  here,
• 49:35
  but
• 49:36
  see
• 49:36
  if
• 49:36
  you
• 49:36
  can
• 49:36
  get
• 49:37
  a
• 49:37
  job
• 49:37
  as
• 49:37
  a
• 49:37
  player
• 49:38
  somewhere
• 49:38
  else.
• 49:39
  If
• 49:40
  you
• 49:40
  don't,
• 49:41
  we're
• 49:41
  going
• 49:41
  to
• 49:41
  leave
• 49:42
  our
• 49:42
  hitting
• 49:42
  coordinator
• 49:43
  job
• 49:43
  open
• 49:43
  in
• 49:44
  the
• 49:44
  minor
• 49:44
  leagues
• 49:44
  for
• 49:45
  you.
• 49:45
  And
• 49:45
  if
• 49:45
  you
• 49:46
  want
• 49:46
  to
• 49:46
  do
• 49:46
  that,
• 49:47
  you
• 49:47
  know,
• 49:48
  we
• 49:48
  want
• 49:48
  you
• 49:48
  here
• 49:49
  as
• 49:49
  a
• 49:49
  hitting
• 49:49
  coach.
• 49:49
  And
• 49:50
  he
• 49:50
  said,
• 49:50
  eventually
• 49:51
  you're
• 49:51
  going
• 49:51
  to
• 49:51
  be
• 49:51
  our
• 49:51
  major
• 49:52
  league
• 49:52
  hitting
• 49:52
  coach.
• 49:54
  And
• 49:54
  sure
• 49:55
  enough,
• 49:55
  I
• 49:55
  didn't
• 49:55
  get
• 49:55
  any
• 49:56
  bites
• 49:56
  as
• 49:56
  a
• 49:56
  free
• 49:57
  agent
• 49:57
  and
• 49:58
  ended
• 49:59
  up
• 49:59
  taking
• 50:00
  the
• 50:00
  job
• 50:00
  as
• 50:00
  a
• 50:01
  hitting
• 50:01
  coordinator
• 50:02
  in
• 50:03
  the
• 50:03
  Padres
• 50:03
  minor
• 50:04
  league
• 50:04
  organization
• 50:06
  and
• 50:06
  loved
• 50:06
  it.
• 50:07
  And
• 50:08
  the
• 50:08
  following
• 50:09
  year,
• 50:10
  as
• 50:11
  Kevin
• 50:11
  said,
• 50:11
  I
• 50:11
  ended
• 50:12
  up
• 50:12
  being
• 50:12
  the
• 50:12
  major
• 50:12
  league
• 50:13
  heading
• 50:13
  coach.
• 50:13
  I
• 50:13
  ended
• 50:13
  up
• 50:13
  being
• 50:14
  the
• 50:14
  heading
• 50:14
  coach
• 50:14
  for
• 50:14
  the
• 50:14
  guys
• 50:15
  I
• 50:15
  had
• 50:15
  just
• 50:15
  played
• 50:15
  with
• 50:15
  two
• 50:16
  years
• 50:16
  previous.
• 50:17
  So
• 50:18
  it
• 50:18
  was
• 50:19
  a
• 50:19
  strange
• 50:20
  turn
• 50:20
  of
• 50:20
  events,
• 50:21
  but
• 50:21
  certainly
• 50:22
  something
• 50:22
  I
• 50:22
  welcomed.
• 50:23
  Anybody
• 50:24
  along
• 50:24
  the
• 50:24
  way,
• 50:25
  Dave,
• 50:25
  that
• 50:27
  had
• 50:27
  an
• 50:27
  impact
• 50:27
  on
• 50:28
  your
• 50:28
  career
• 50:28
  that
• 50:29
  may
• 50:29
  have
• 50:29
  influenced
• 50:30
  your
• 50:30
  coaching
• 50:31
  style?
• 50:34
  That's
• 50:34
  a
• 50:34
  good
• 50:34
  question.
• 50:37
  I
• 50:37
  think
• 50:38
  I
• 50:39
  had
• 50:39
  a
• 50:39
  lot
• 50:39
  of
• 50:39
  Great
• 50:39
  coaches.
• 50:40
  I
• 50:40
  had
• 50:40
  a
• 50:40
  lot
• 50:40
  of
• 50:41
  great
• 50:41
  managers.
• 50:43
  I
• 50:43
  think
• 50:44
  I
• 50:44
  took
• 50:44
  a
• 50:44
  little
• 50:44
  bit
• 50:45
  from
• 50:45
  everybody.
• 50:46
  I
• 50:47
  think
• 50:47
  Ron
• 50:47
  Washington,
• 50:48
  who
• 50:48
  was
• 50:48
  our
• 50:48
  third
• 50:49
  base
• 50:49
  coach
• 50:49
  and
• 50:49
  infield
• 50:50
  instructor
• 50:51
  in
• 50:51
  Oakland
• 50:51
  when
• 50:52
  I
• 50:52
  played
• 50:52
  there,
• 50:52
  I
• 50:53
  think
• 50:54
  I
• 50:54
  loved
• 50:55
  him.
• 50:55
  I
• 50:56
  loved
• 50:56
  the
• 50:56
  attitude
• 50:57
  that
• 50:57
  he
• 50:57
  had.
• 50:59
  He
• 50:59
  was
• 50:59
  a
• 50:59
  guy
• 50:59
  that
• 51:00
  you
• 51:00
  wanted
• 51:00
  to
• 51:01
  play
• 51:01
  well
• 51:01
  for,
• 51:02
  and
• 51:03
  that's
• 51:03
  hard
• 51:04
  to
• 51:04
  convey
• 51:04
  as
• 51:04
  a
• 51:04
  coach,
• 51:05
  to
• 51:05
  get
• 51:05
  guys
• 51:06
  to
• 51:06
  feel
• 51:06
  that
• 51:06
  way.
• 51:07
  And
• 51:07
  I
• 51:07
  always
• 51:08
  kind
• 51:08
  of
• 51:08
  look
• 51:08
  to
• 51:09
  him
• 51:09
  as
• 51:09
  a
• 51:09
  guy
• 51:09
  that,
• 51:10
  that
• 51:10
  I
• 51:10
  wanted
• 51:11
  to
• 51:11
  emulate
• 51:11
  as
• 51:11
  a
• 51:11
  coach.
• 51:13
  I
• 51:13
  think
• 51:13
  Merv
• 51:14
  Retman,
• 51:14
  who
• 51:15
  was
• 51:15
  my
• 51:15
  hitting
• 51:15
  coach
• 51:15
  my
• 51:16
  first
• 51:16
  year
• 51:16
  in
• 51:16
  San
• 51:16
  Diego,
• 51:17
  he
• 51:18
  was
• 51:18
  a
• 51:18
  guy
• 51:18
  that
• 51:18
  used
• 51:19
  a
• 51:19
  lot
• 51:19
  sense
• 51:20
  of
• 51:20
  humor
• 51:21
  and
• 51:22
  was
• 51:23
  a
• 51:23
  lot
• 51:23
  more
• 51:23
  psychological
• 51:24
  about
• 51:26
  how
• 51:26
  to
• 51:26
  attack
• 51:27
  pitchers
• 51:27
  and
• 51:28
  how
• 51:29
  to
• 51:29
  get
• 51:29
  through
• 51:30
  the
• 51:30
  bad
• 51:30
  times
• 51:31
  and
• 51:31
  maybe
• 51:32
  use
• 51:32
  a
• 51:32
  sense
• 51:33
  of
• 51:33
  humor
• 51:33
  to
• 51:33
  get
• 51:33
  through
• 51:34
  it.
• 51:36
  You
• 51:36
  know,
• 51:36
  certainly
• 51:37
  Bruce
• 51:37
  Bochy,
• 51:38
  who
• 51:38
  is
• 51:38
  my
• 51:38
  manager
• 51:39
  as
• 51:39
  a
• 51:39
  player
• 51:39
  in
• 51:39
  San
• 51:40
  Diego,
• 51:40
  and
• 51:40
  then
• 51:40
  I
• 51:40
  ended
• 51:41
  up
• 51:41
  coaching
• 51:41
  with
• 51:41
  him
• 51:41
  there.
• 51:42
  I
• 51:42
  learned
• 51:42
  a
• 51:42
  lot
• 51:42
  from
• 51:42
  him,
• 51:43
  how
• 51:44
  he,
• 51:45
  you
• 51:45
  know,
• 51:46
  he
• 51:46
  was
• 51:47
  so
• 51:47
  good
• 51:48
  at
• 51:50
  getting
• 51:50
  the
• 51:50
  best
• 51:50
  out
• 51:51
  of
• 51:51
  his
• 51:51
  players
• 51:52
  and
• 51:52
  making
• 51:53
  the
• 51:54
  25th
• 51:54
  guy
• 51:56
  on
• 51:56
  the
• 51:56
  roster
• 51:57
  feel
• 51:57
  like
• 51:57
  he
• 51:57
  was
• 51:58
  an
• 51:58
  important
• 51:58
  part
• 51:59
  of
• 51:59
  the
• 51:59
  team
• 52:00
  and
• 52:00
  we
• 52:01
  can't
• 52:01
  win
• 52:01
  without
• 52:01
  that
• 52:02
  guy
• 52:02
  doing
• 52:02
  well.
• 52:03
  And
• 52:03
  he
• 52:03
  was
• 52:03
  so
• 52:04
  good
• 52:04
  at
• 52:04
  that.
• 52:06
  So
• 52:06
  I
• 52:06
  tried
• 52:06
  to
• 52:07
  take
• 52:07
  a
• 52:07
  little
• 52:07
  bit
• 52:07
  from
• 52:07
  everybody.
• 52:08
  Art
• 52:08
  Howe
• 52:09
  was
• 52:09
  a
• 52:09
  guy.
• 52:09
  He
• 52:10
  was
• 52:10
  my
• 52:10
  manager
• 52:10
  in
• 52:10
  Oakland.
• 52:11
  Just
• 52:11
  how
• 52:11
  even
• 52:12
  keel
• 52:12
  he
• 52:12
  was,
• 52:13
  and
• 52:13
  not
• 52:14
  too
• 52:14
  high,
• 52:14
  not
• 52:14
  too
• 52:15
  low.
• 52:15
  And
• 52:15
  that's
• 52:15
  the
• 52:15
  way
• 52:15
  I
• 52:16
  was
• 52:16
  as
• 52:16
  a
• 52:16
  player,
• 52:16
  and
• 52:16
  that's
• 52:17
  the
• 52:17
  way
• 52:17
  I
• 52:17
  wanted
• 52:17
  to
• 52:17
  be
• 52:17
  as
• 52:18
  a
• 52:18
  coach.
• 52:18
  So.
• 52:21
  I
• 52:21
  was
• 52:21
  fortunate
• 52:21
  to
• 52:22
  have
• 52:22
  a
• 52:22
  lot
• 52:22
  of
• 52:22
  great
• 52:22
  coaches
• 52:23
  and
• 52:23
  managers.
• 52:24
  Yeah,
• 52:24
  some
• 52:24
  really
• 52:25
  great
• 52:25
  names
• 52:25
  you
• 52:25
  mentioned
• 52:26
  there.
• 52:26
  I
• 52:26
  remember
• 52:27
  Merv
• 52:27
  Rettman
• 52:28
  was
• 52:28
  a
• 52:29
  pinch
• 52:29
  hitter
• 52:30
  extraordinaire
• 52:31
  when
• 52:31
  I
• 52:31
  was
• 52:31
  a
• 52:31
  kid,
• 52:32
  when
• 52:33
  he
• 52:33
  was
• 52:33
  with
• 52:33
  the
• 52:33
  Baltimore
• 52:34
  Orioles.
• 52:34
  In
• 52:34
  fact,
• 52:35
  he
• 52:35
  played
• 52:35
  in
• 52:36
  the
• 52:36
  69
• 52:36
  series
• 52:37
  against
• 52:37
  the
• 52:37
  Mets.
• 52:39
  A
• 52:39
  great
• 52:40
  hitter.
• 52:41
  What
• 52:41
  keeps
• 52:41
  you
• 52:41
  busy
• 52:42
  these
• 52:42
  days,
• 52:42
  Dave?
• 52:44
  I
• 52:45
  play
• 52:45
  a
• 52:45
  lot
• 52:45
  of
• 52:45
  golf.
• 52:47
  You
• 52:47
  know,
• 52:48
  I
• 52:49
  had,
• 52:50
  you
• 52:50
  know,
• 52:50
  I
• 52:51
  had
• 52:51
  two
• 52:51
  boys
• 52:51
  that
• 52:52
  are
• 52:52
  now
• 52:52
  grown
• 52:53
  men,
• 52:53
  and
• 52:53
  then
• 52:54
  I
• 52:54
  remarried
• 52:55
  in
• 52:55
  2000,
• 52:55
  and
• 52:56
  now
• 52:56
  we
• 52:56
  have
• 52:56
  two
• 52:57
  daughters
• 52:57
  that
• 52:57
  are
• 52:57
  21
• 52:58
  and
• 52:58
  17.
• 52:59
  So
• 52:59
  I
• 52:59
  spent
• 52:59
  a
• 52:59
  lot
• 52:59
  of
• 53:00
  time
• 53:01
  with
• 53:01
  them
• 53:02
  that
• 53:02
  I
• 53:02
  lost
• 53:03
  out
• 53:03
  on
• 53:04
  as
• 53:04
  a
• 53:04
  coach
• 53:04
  and
• 53:05
  a
• 53:05
  player,
• 53:05
  you
• 53:05
  know,
• 53:06
  being
• 53:06
  away
• 53:06
  from
• 53:06
  home
• 53:07
  so
• 53:07
  much.
• 53:07
  And
• 53:09
  so
• 53:09
  the
• 53:09
  little
• 53:09
  one
• 53:11
  was
• 53:11
  a
• 53:11
  very
• 53:11
  good
• 53:11
  volleyball
• 53:12
  player,
• 53:12
  so
• 53:13
  I
• 53:13
  was
• 53:13
  able
• 53:13
  to
• 53:13
  see
• 53:13
  a
• 53:13
  lot
• 53:14
  of
• 53:14
  that.
• 53:14
  But
• 53:15
  prior
• 53:15
  when
• 53:16
  I
• 53:16
  was
• 53:16
  coaching
• 53:16
  and
• 53:16
  she
• 53:16
  was
• 53:17
  playing
• 53:17
  volleyball,
• 53:17
  I
• 53:17
  was
• 53:17
  watching
• 53:18
  a
• 53:18
  lot
• 53:18
  of
• 53:18
  that
• 53:18
  on
• 53:18
  the
• 53:19
  Internet,
• 53:19
  a
• 53:19
  lot
• 53:19
  of
• 53:20
  her
• 53:20
  games
• 53:20
  on
• 53:20
  the
• 53:20
  Internet,
• 53:21
  which
• 53:21
  was
• 53:21
  very
• 53:21
  frustrating,
• 53:22
  but
• 53:23
  so
• 53:23
  spent
• 53:24
  a
• 53:24
  lot
• 53:24
  of
• 53:24
  time
• 53:25
  and
• 53:25
  we
• 53:25
  do
• 53:25
  a
• 53:25
  lot
• 53:25
  of
• 53:26
  traveling.
• 53:27
  Traveling
• 53:27
  that
• 53:28
  we
• 53:28
  couldn't
• 53:28
  do
• 53:28
  when
• 53:28
  I
• 53:28
  was
• 53:29
  coaching.
• 53:30
  So
• 53:31
  we've
• 53:31
  had
• 53:31
  a
• 53:31
  few
• 53:32
  trips
• 53:32
  to
• 53:33
  Europe
• 53:34
  and
• 53:34
  the
• 53:34
  Caribbean
• 53:35
  and
• 53:35
  we're
• 53:35
  going
• 53:36
  to
• 53:36
  Hawaii
• 53:36
  this
• 53:36
  year.
• 53:37
  So
• 53:39
  there's
• 53:39
  plenty
• 53:39
  to
• 53:40
  keep
• 53:40
  me
• 53:40
  busy,
• 53:40
  that's
• 53:41
  for
• 53:41
  sure.
• 53:41
  Nice.
• 53:42
  Dave.
• 53:42
  Well,
• 53:43
  it's
• 53:43
  been
• 53:43
  a
• 53:43
  real
• 53:44
  pleasure
• 53:44
  speaking
• 53:45
  with
• 53:45
  you,
• 53:45
  Dave.
• 53:45
  I
• 53:46
  thank
• 53:46
  you
• 53:46
  for
• 53:46
  taking
• 53:47
  time
• 53:47
  out
• 53:47
  of
• 53:47
  your
• 53:47
  Sunday
• 53:48
  night
• 53:48
  to
• 53:48
  spend
• 53:48
  it
• 53:49
  with
• 53:49
  us
• 53:49
  up
• 53:49
  here
• 53:49
  in
• 53:49
  New
• 53:50
  York.
• 53:51
  I
• 53:51
  wish
• 53:51
  you,
• 53:52
  the
• 53:52
  family,
• 53:53
  the
• 53:53
  best
• 53:53
  and
• 53:54
  hope
• 53:54
  to
• 53:54
  speak
• 53:55
  to
• 53:55
  you
• 53:55
  soon.
• 53:56
  Absolutely.
• 53:57
  Thanks
• 53:57
  for
• 53:57
  having
• 53:57
  me.
• 53:58
  Bill.
• 53:58
  Thanks
• 53:58
  again,
• 53:59
  Dave.
• 53:59
  That's
• 53:59
  Dave
• 54:00
  Magadan,
• 54:00
  ladies
• 54:01
  and
• 54:01
  gentlemen.
• 54:01
  That
• 54:01
  will
• 54:02
  do
• 54:02
  it
• 54:02
  for
• 54:02
  me
• 54:02
  tonight
• 54:03
  on
• 54:03
  SPORTS
• 54:03
  TALK
• 54:04
  New
• 54:04
  York.
• 54:05
  I'd
• 54:05
  like
• 54:05
  to
• 54:05
  thank
• 54:05
  my
• 54:06
  guests
• 54:07
  Art
• 54:07
  Howe
• 54:08
  and
• 54:08
  Dave
• 54:08
  Magadan,
• 54:09
  my
• 54:09
  engineer,
• 54:10
  Brian
• 54:10
  Graves,
• 54:11
  and,
• 54:11
  of
• 54:11
  course,
• 54:11
  you
• 54:11
  guys
• 54:12
  for
• 54:12
  joining
• 54:13
  us.
• 54:13
  I'll
• 54:14
  see
• 54:14
  you
• 54:14
  next
• 54:15
  with
• 54:15
  the
• 54:15
  help
• 54:15
  of
• 54:15
  a
• 54:16
  few
• 54:16
  doctors,
• 54:16
  nurses,
• 54:17
  cops
• 54:18
  and
• 54:18
  the
• 54:18
  good
• 54:19
  Lord,
• 54:20
  maybe
• 54:20
  on
• 54:20
  Sunday,
• 54:21
  May
• 54:21
  17th.
• 54:22
  For
• 54:22
  more
• 54:22
  sports
• 54:23
  TALK
• 54:23
  New
• 54:23
  York,
• 54:24
  we're
• 54:24
  going
• 54:24
  to
• 54:24
  look
• 54:24
  at
• 54:24
  Jerry
• 54:25
  Cheevers,
• 54:26
  the
• 54:26
  Hall
• 54:26
  of
• 54:26
  Fame
• 54:26
  goaltender
• 54:28
  and
• 54:28
  the
• 54:28
  great
• 54:29
  center
• 54:29
  for
• 54:29
  the
• 54:30
  world
• 54:30
  champion
• 54:31
  New
• 54:31
  York
• 54:31
  jets
• 54:32
  from
• 54:32
  Super
• 54:32
  Bowl
• 54:33
  3,
• 54:33
  John
• 54:33
  Schmidt.
• 54:34
  Till
• 54:34
  then,
• 54:35
  be
• 54:35
  safe,
• 54:35
  be
• 54:36
  well.
• 54:36
  Bill
• 54:37
  Donahue,
• 54:37
  wishing
• 54:38
  you
• 54:38
  a
• 54:38
  good
• 54:38
  evening,
• 54:38
  folks.
• 54:39
  The
• 54:40
  views
• 54:40
  expressed
• 54:40
  in
• 54:40
  the
• 54:40
  previous
• 54:41
  program
• 54:41
  did
• 54:42
  not
• 54:42
  necessarily
• 54:42
  represent
• 54:43
  those
• 54:43
  of
• 54:43
  the
• 54:43
  staff,
• 54:44
  management
• 54:44
  or
• 54:45
  owners
• 54:45
  of
• 54:45
  WGBB.