Latest / Motivation Mindset Podcast / Jordan Peterson: Life Will Never Look the Same After This
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- 0:09Speaker 1: Don't overestimate yourself, but don't underestimate who you could be.
- 0:14Speaker 1: That's a much better way of thinking about it. You know,
- 0:17Speaker 1: psychologists of the careless sort, I would say, have been
- 0:20Speaker 1: pushing the idea of self esteem for a very long time,
- 0:23Speaker 1: probably since the early sixties. You should be content with
- 0:27Speaker 1: yourself the way you are. It's like, no, you shouldn't
- 0:29Speaker 1: seriously like you're nowhere near what you could be. You're
- 0:32Speaker 1: not even close, right, And so that's a way more
- 0:37Speaker 1: optimistic message. Like it's you ain't seen nothing yet. That's
- 0:41Speaker 1: the right message. And so I would say, don't overestimate
- 0:46Speaker 1: yourself now, but don't underestimate your future self. And you
- 0:49Speaker 1: have so much influence as an individual if you get
- 0:52Speaker 1: your act together that you can't believe it. There isn't
- 0:54Speaker 1: anything that has more influence than that. You have all
- 0:57Speaker 1: the power that there is right where you are to
- 1:00Speaker 1: put things right around you. You start now, you develop
- 1:03Speaker 1: a noble vision right of who you could be. You
- 1:05Speaker 1: start to put that into practice. Develop some discipline, familiarize
- 1:09Speaker 1: yourself with the great works of the past. Learn to read,
- 1:12Speaker 1: learn to write, learn to speak, learn to think. Man,
- 1:16Speaker 1: you'll be deadly what you could bring to the table
- 1:23Speaker 1: that hasn't been brought to the table for years is
- 1:26Speaker 1: an emphasis on individual responsibility. And the right way to
- 1:30Speaker 1: do that, as far as I'm concerned, is to start
- 1:32Speaker 1: with yourselves. Is develop a vision for your life. You
- 1:35Speaker 1: start think about if you could be who you could be,
- 1:39Speaker 1: what would that look like. That's the beginning of a
- 1:41Speaker 1: mature philosophy of being. If you could be the person
- 1:44Speaker 1: that you would admire, who would that person be? How
- 1:49Speaker 1: would you configure yourself? How would you configure your career,
- 1:52Speaker 1: your education, your family, the use of time outside of work.
- 1:56Speaker 1: If you wanted to be the noblest person that you
- 1:58Speaker 1: could be, who was adopting the maximal amount of responsibility,
- 2:02Speaker 1: how would that look? Then you need a strategy to
- 2:04Speaker 1: put that into place. And that's the way you change
- 2:07Speaker 1: things properly, and also the way you do the least
- 2:10Speaker 1: amount of harm while you're changing them. And so it
- 2:12Speaker 1: should be an individual, an individual focused set of ideas,
- 2:16Speaker 1: and that way you can sidestep the identity politics traps,
- 2:19Speaker 1: and that would be a very good thing. And I
- 2:22Speaker 1: think a modern conservatism, which isn't really all that distinguishable
- 2:25Speaker 1: from a classical liberalism as it turns out, is to
- 2:28Speaker 1: put tremendous stress on the responsibility of the individual. And
- 2:33Speaker 1: one of the things that's wonderful about that, as far
- 2:35Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, and I made reference to this a
- 2:37Speaker 1: few minutes ago, is that you need a meaning to
- 2:40Speaker 1: offset the tragedy of life. Otherwise you just suffer stupidly,
- 2:45Speaker 1: and you tend to make people around you suffer the
- 2:47Speaker 1: same way. The way that you find that meaning is
- 2:50Speaker 1: by adopting as much responsibility as you can. And what's
- 2:54Speaker 1: also so fascinating about that is, you know you're characterized
- 2:58Speaker 1: by an indefinite potential. It isn't easy to understand exactly
- 3:02Speaker 1: what that is, that potential, but you know it's what
- 3:04Speaker 1: people call you on when they say, you know, you're
- 3:07Speaker 1: not living up to your potential. Whatever that is. That
- 3:10Speaker 1: potential will be called forth from you as a consequence
- 3:14Speaker 1: of adoption of responsibility because it won't manifest itself unless
- 3:17Speaker 1: you take on a load. You're not going to develop
- 3:20Speaker 1: in all the ways you could develop, unless you set
- 3:22Speaker 1: yourself a serious challenge, because it takes the challenge to
- 3:26Speaker 1: pull that out of you and also to motivate you
- 3:28Speaker 1: to rid yourself of all the weaknesses and personality flaws
- 3:33Speaker 1: that you've accumulated across the years, and to let those
- 3:36Speaker 1: disappear and burn off you. You need to load yourself
- 3:40Speaker 1: up before the demands of life will be such that
- 3:43Speaker 1: you will discipline yourself properly, and a noble goal is
- 3:46Speaker 1: a very good way of beginning that. The truth of
- 3:51Speaker 1: the matter is, as far as I'm concerned that each
- 3:54Speaker 1: of us has enough potential cha power of character, let's say,
- 4:00Speaker 1: if it's properly manifested, to contend with that in a
- 4:03Speaker 1: noble way and to rise above it and to transcend
- 4:07Speaker 1: and to deal with it in large part because we
- 4:09Speaker 1: can make the world a much better place than it
- 4:11Speaker 1: is for each of us individually and for our families
- 4:15Speaker 1: and for our community, and we can constrain them malevolence
- 4:19Speaker 1: at least in our own hearts, and perhaps have a
- 4:22Speaker 1: positive effect on those around us as a consequence, and
- 4:24Speaker 1: that actually does make things better, And we actually can
- 4:27Speaker 1: do that, and that's where the meaning in life is
- 4:30Speaker 1: to be found. And that meaning, you know, that goes
- 4:33Speaker 1: along with the adoption of that kind of responsibility is
- 4:35Speaker 1: actually the antidote to the suffering. You know that perfectly well,
- 4:39Speaker 1: because all of you need a reason to get out
- 4:42Speaker 1: of bed in the morning, especially on a rough morning.
- 4:44Speaker 1: You know, when things aren't going so well in your life,
- 4:46Speaker 1: and there will be plenty of times when things aren't
- 4:49Speaker 1: going so well in your life, and you still need
- 4:51Speaker 1: a reason to get up and get moving and get
- 4:54Speaker 1: out there. And if you have adopted the responsibility at
- 4:58Speaker 1: an individual level to make things better given how bad
- 5:01Speaker 1: they are, if you've adopted the responsibility to make things better,
- 5:05Speaker 1: then you have a reason to get up. And so
- 5:08Speaker 1: one of the things that I've been stressing to people
- 5:10Speaker 1: is that there's very little difference between the meaning in
- 5:14Speaker 1: life that gives you fulfillment and that engages you in
- 5:17Speaker 1: existence and the willingness to shoulder as much individual responsibility
- 5:21Speaker 1: as you can possibly handle. Those are the same things.
- 5:24Speaker 1: And that's a really useful thing to know. And you
- 5:26Speaker 1: kind of know this, right. Everybody knows this, because, first
- 5:30Speaker 1: of all, if you're not living up to your responsibilities,
- 5:33Speaker 1: even to take care of yourself, the probability that you're
- 5:35Speaker 1: going to be ashamed of that at some level is
- 5:37Speaker 1: extraordinarily high. And so your own soul tells you that
- 5:41Speaker 1: you're in error, so to speak. But also if you
- 5:44Speaker 1: look at who you spontaneously admire, which is a good
- 5:48Speaker 1: indication of where your value system really sits, you'll see
- 5:51Speaker 1: that the people you admire are always people who take
- 5:54Speaker 1: responsibility for themselves and responsibility for their family, and responsibility
- 5:58Speaker 1: for their community. Get your act together. You've got things
- 6:04Speaker 1: to do in the world. The absence of your full
- 6:07Speaker 1: being in the world leaves a hole that is filled
- 6:10Speaker 1: by terrible things. At minimum, So at minimum you have
- 6:13Speaker 1: an ethical responsibility to ensure that the world doesn't evolve
- 6:16Speaker 1: into something approximating hell. And at maximum you have the
- 6:21Speaker 1: responsibility again, the ethical it's a heavy ethical responsibility to
- 6:25Speaker 1: do everything that's in your power to make things as
- 6:27Speaker 1: good as you can possibly make them in this sophisticated
- 6:30Speaker 1: manner that takes you and your family and your community
- 6:33Speaker 1: into account. And it's on you, right, And that's meaning.
- 6:37Speaker 1: You know, people say, well, I'd like to have a
- 6:38Speaker 1: meaningful life. It's like, well, fair enough. But the price
- 6:43Speaker 1: that you pay for the meaning that transcends tragedy is
- 6:45Speaker 1: the adoption of responsibility for the catastrophe of existence. But
- 6:50Speaker 1: that ennobles you, right, It makes you into someone strong
- 6:54Speaker 1: and someone competent in someone who who's worthwhile, and who
- 6:59Speaker 1: lives in a manner that justifies their own suffering. And
- 7:02Speaker 1: that's what There's nothing better than you could possibly do
- 7:04Speaker 1: than that. Although there is a very large number of
- 7:09Speaker 1: ways of looking at the world, or perhaps a near
- 7:11Speaker 1: infinite number of ways of looking at the world, there
- 7:13Speaker 1: isn't a near infinite number of ways of acting in
- 7:17Speaker 1: the world in a manner that actually is successful, and
- 7:21Speaker 1: so there are constraints on how you can how you
- 7:24Speaker 1: can interact with the world in a successful manner. Let's
- 7:27Speaker 1: assume that you don't want undo pain and anxiety. We
- 7:31Speaker 1: could just start with that, and I think that's a
- 7:33Speaker 1: reasonable proposition. You can tolerate some pain and anxiety if
- 7:36Speaker 1: it's in the service of something greater, obviously, but I
- 7:39Speaker 1: just mean pointless pain and anxiety. We don't want any
- 7:42Speaker 1: more of that than is necessary. And that means that
- 7:44Speaker 1: you have to take care of yourself to some degree.
- 7:47Speaker 1: But the manner in which you take care of yourself
- 7:50Speaker 1: is severely constrained. This is partly why you have to
- 7:53Speaker 1: be intelligent and careful and plot your way through life properly.
- 7:57Speaker 1: You have to take care of yourself today, but you
- 8:02Speaker 1: have to take care of yourself and today in a
- 8:04Speaker 1: way that doesn't interfere with you taking care of yourself
- 8:07Speaker 1: tomorrow and next week and next month and next year
- 8:10Speaker 1: and five years from now and ten years from now.
- 8:13Speaker 1: So you can't do just what you want to in
- 8:15Speaker 1: the next hour, because if it's impulsive pleasure seeking, let's
- 8:20Speaker 1: say something like that, excess alcohol use or excess drug use,
- 8:24Speaker 1: or careless sexual behavior, or betrayal of people to gain
- 8:28Speaker 1: you some gain you something in the moment, you're gonna
- 8:31Speaker 1: pay for that. You're gonna pay for it tomorrow, You're
- 8:34Speaker 1: gonna pay for it next week, and next month, the
- 8:36Speaker 1: next year. So, because you're going to exist in the future,
- 8:39Speaker 1: and because you have to live with yourself, there's only
- 8:41Speaker 1: a certain number of ways that you can act that
- 8:43Speaker 1: are going to work. But it's more than that. It's
- 8:46Speaker 1: not just that you're responsible to your future self or
- 8:49Speaker 1: the set of all your future selves. Is that you
- 8:51Speaker 1: also have to act in a way that works for
- 8:54Speaker 1: your family, because otherwise your family's gonna disintegrate and break
- 8:58Speaker 1: down and cause you and them all sorts of misery
- 9:01Speaker 1: and grief, and not just your family now, but also
- 9:04Speaker 1: your family into the future. And then not just your
- 9:06Speaker 1: family either, but also your community. And so you have
- 9:09Speaker 1: to set your aspirations so that they serve you in
- 9:14Speaker 1: the broadest sense over a long period of time, and
- 9:16Speaker 1: they also serve your family, and they also serve your community.
- 9:19Speaker 1: And that's a very tight set of constraints. And I
- 9:23Speaker 1: think that the best solution to that set of constraints,
- 9:26Speaker 1: from a philosophical perspective, or maybe even a theological perspective,
- 9:29Speaker 1: is to view the world as a place not of groups,
- 9:32Speaker 1: but of individuals, of sovereign individuals who are responsible for
- 9:35Speaker 1: their destinies, responsible for their families, and for their communities.
- 9:41Speaker 1: You learn to use minimal necessary force. It's like you
- 9:44Speaker 1: don't defend yourself any more than you have to, like,
- 9:47Speaker 1: be careful, don't push any harder than you need to,
- 9:50Speaker 1: because all you do is you generate a counter force
- 9:53Speaker 1: by pushing harder than you need to. And then you're
- 9:57Speaker 1: in conflict. And you think, well, I like a little conflict.
- 10:00Speaker 1: It's like, look, fair enough, a little conflict, man, no problem.
- 10:03Speaker 1: It keeps your life kind of interesting. And maybe that's
- 10:06Speaker 1: on the problem solving edge. But a little conflict can
- 10:08Speaker 1: become a lot of conflict, very very rapidly, and if
- 10:11Speaker 1: you have any sense at all, that's not what you want,
- 10:13Speaker 1: you know, especially if you have other things that are
- 10:15Speaker 1: better to do, and you should have other things that
- 10:17Speaker 1: are better to do,