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Brett Keane talks Modern Slavery, Bible homosexuality, WWE, Games, AI Music, Writing Books · Brett Keane and Eve Show

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  I'm, I used to tell people that I was raped when I was 8 years
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  old because it, it gave me sort of a justification for being
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  fucked up in so many ways. And of course, I, I was never
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  raped. I never had any sort of really
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  dark things happen. I was molested as a child.
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  All right, I said it, as were many other.
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  People. And it was only a one time thing
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  and I don't feel as though it's psychologically damaged me.
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  But also I find myself when told to come into a chat room that is
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  ran or hosted by an atheist, they have a tendency to bring
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  all their pals and then they will talk over you and yell at
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  you. I feel like I'm Donald Trump
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  trying to deal with Congress. They don't do it one at a time.
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  They can't stay our focus on a subject matter.
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  They continue to ride all over the place in order to have some
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  kind of competition of who they think is the smartest
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  freethinker. Perfect example is this.
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  I think it I think it is fair, Brett.
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  I think we've been more than. Watching you for 10 years,
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  buddy. I'm going to be more than fair,
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  Brett. Keene is fucking.
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  Starving for approval? It's to the.
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  Point where it's like unhealthy. Is he pathological too?
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  Oh. Yeah.
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  I mean, Brett, you've over the years, time and time again been
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  embroiled in scandals. You've been embroiled in feuds
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  with people. Reorganize your priorities to
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  the priorities you have. Now are all wrong.
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  I know a lot about Brett Keene because I've watched him a lot
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  and that makes me a good historian.
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  Brett has a very typical lying huckster E Missouri hustling
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  rube thing about him that I'm very familiar with.
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  They got. Gut you publicly, they got to
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  call you a pedophile. They got to sick a fucking sick
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  retard on you, they'll do it. Amazing.
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  I'm about to get a touchdown. Fumble.
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  Fumble. Liar.
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  Why do you want to speak out a fucking word in your defensive?
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  The last word Brett has the final word, Brett.
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  The floor is yours. All right.
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  Thank you for having me on the show.
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  None. Another morning, same old way,
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  bare feet are called for. Hope comes late, happy silence
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  fills the room. You've got the clock.
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  I feel consumed. Copy furns my tongue, but I
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  still sip. Mirror in the hallway, I barely
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  exists. Super tired, fake smile in the
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  background. Out smile.
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  Phone buzzing, head and hands unread, messages broken plans,
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  pressure pressed on every breath.
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  Maybe I'm just not enough yet. I look out the window.
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  Nothing's clear. All these expectations ring in
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  my ear. So me doesn't ever get easy.
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  There's the Pierce on the other side.
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  How much me do I give away before I disappear inside?
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  Tell me how much more I got to carry.
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  Is there in somewhere I can't see and was supposed to bend
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  until I break down or is there space left just for me?
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  Tell me how much more I got to carry for people.
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  What's going on there, Steven? This is Brett Keane from GOD TV
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  Radio. I hope you're all having a
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  wonderful day. We're not going to do the big
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  old introduction or opening, just trying to get some good
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  discussion going because I'm bored senseless.
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  What you been up to? I am about at six three and
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  probably capped my growing at this point.
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  I sure hope that I have because I can't afford bigger shoes.
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  I saw a post that you made, Brett, where you're possibly
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  going to be doing an interview on the Drunken Peasants.
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  Well, I don't know if you read the The Catch on it.
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  If they also interview Smokey St. right?
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  If they interview him, not me. Oh.
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  OK, so you don't want to do the interview, you just wanted to be
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  Smokey St. Yes.
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  OK, why is that? Because it'll be the same
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  bullshit that it was in the past there.
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  It'll just be all the half stuff, what I was 20 years ago
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  as an atheist kind of thing. I don't want to sit through
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  somebody accusing me of being a pedophile and all that other
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  crap or child abuse. Can I ask you a personal
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  question but on a different yet related topic?
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  Sure, what's up? So I'm just curious, you're very
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  good friends with TTOR and very good friends with Smokey St. but
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  those two do not seem to get along.
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  How do you manage it? Well, The thing is, with social
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  media, you're always going to have somebody pissed off at you.
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  I don't know one single question or atheist that I can hang out
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  with that doesn't have an enemy or someone who hates them.
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  If I were to not do shows or talk to people just because
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  someone didn't like them, then I'm out of business.
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  Now that wasn't my question. My question wasn't why are you
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  doing shows with Smokey Sane. I was just wondering like is
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  that affecting your relationship with TTOR at all?
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  No, not at all. Yeah.
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  I mean, it's obvious that TTOR has asked me about it from the
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  beginning. And Smokey asked me if there was
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  an issue and all that, and I said why would there be?
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  You guys don't get along with each other.
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  I can't expect you to get along with everybody I get along with.
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  Like, for instance, if TTOR didn't like you, does that mean
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  I stopped talking to you or stopped hanging out with you?
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  I mean, it would be you get it. Put the shoes on the other foot.
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  Yeah, but everybody loves me. I mean, I can't think of a
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  single person in my YouTube career who has thought I'll of
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  me or brought up my past or thought anything negative.
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  I'm a pretty likable guy, you know what I mean?
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  I I find it unusual too, because I get a lot of people that come
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  in my room like I just recently had shanty for Christ who as
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  well as Jason. I don't know if you've ever
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  heard of them, but they've unfortunately been abused big
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  time for years on the Internet. You've seen that, right?
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  I haven't. I actually don't know who you're
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  talking about, but I have been absent for the last couple
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  months so I'm really behind on social media stuff.
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  Well, Shanny and Shan, and not Jason, but they're a couple
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  basically. And Shanny, she used to be an
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  atheist and all that and she said she was influenced by my
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  videos and all this. And then whenever I became a
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  Christian and all that, I tried to help influence her out of it.
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  And now she's Shanny for Christ instead of Shanny the atheist.
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  Well, unfortunately she gets abused and people disrespect her
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  and all that. Well, because there's people out
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  there that hate her. I, when I did a show with her
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  recently had all these jerk offs come to my comments and they're
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  like, why you hang out with Shanny for her?
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  Don't you know this? Don't you know that?
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  And I said, I don't really give a shit.
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  I said I care about her. She's got issues and all that.
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  I'm not going to sit there and bully somebody or disrespect
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  someone. She's a good person.
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  Says they don't give her a chance.
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  They don't give her an opportunity.
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  So that's how I do people. I'm, I'm, I'm not going to go,
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  oh, you know, I like this friend more or something like that.
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  I love you all. I consider you my family.
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  Well, I've always said it openly and publicly, and I've taken
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  some criticism for it, but I have always said that you have a
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  filthy, filthy mouth, but you have one of the best testimonies
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  on YouTube. I firmly believe that.
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  Well, I appreciate that. I know it's something I got to
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  work on. I got to wait, work on the
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  language thing, definitely. Even now I found out that I was
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  watching a video recently about a new features that let me see
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  if this is a real Smokey. This real Smokey.
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  Yep, it is. How you doing, Brett?
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  You know how it is, man. Got to got to make sure of these
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  things. No, no, no, no big deal.
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  It's all good. So I I watched the debate.
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  Looks like we got somebody called Oren and hopefully he can
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  behave himself if we allow him in.
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  He's apparently a Drunken Peasants fan.
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  We had a good one last time, let's see if we can get a second
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  one. That would be awesome.
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  Here we go. I don't know this Lightning
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  strike the same place twice. Let's find out.
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  I don't know. We're going to find out.
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  I would actually have back and forth with some drunken
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  atheists, some drunken. Pestles.
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  Well, let's give them an opportunity first.
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  We don't just be mean to people. Give them a chance.
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  Give them an opportunity. Hello, Warren, How are you
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  doing? What's going on, Brett?
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  I'm just sitting here chilling. I looked at some of your video
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  and you said something to the effect of Brett King doesn't
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  understand DMCA laws. And you know what?
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  You're absolutely correct about that.
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  That's the reason why I talked to a lawyer and recorded the
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  conversation recently. Did you get a chance to see that
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  one? Can't say I have.
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  It's the latest video. Did you get a chance Smoke get
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  to see that? That's good stuff, I think.
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  I think I watched part of it. Was it that you were talking to
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  AI or was this a different one? It's an AI lawyer you can do.
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  Personally, right? You need to talk to a real
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  lawyer. You can't talk to an AI lawyer.
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  Well, you do know what copyright infringement is, right?
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  Yes. Hey, what do you think it is?
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  It's where you're copying somebody's video without like,
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  oh shit, what am I trying to say without editing it in any sort
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  of way. So if I add commentary like I
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  did, that's editing it. OK, well, it's fair enough.
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  You've got your perception on it, and I understand that.
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  It's transformative in nature. Right, right.
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  If if Mr. Proverbs or Smokey make a video about me and they
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  say I criticize Brett Keene because I think that he's wrong
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  about the steel logical view or I think that his nose hair might
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  be out of place, that's fine. That's OK.
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  But if you get up on video and record over someone and say, oh,
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  Brett Keene crushed his daughter's head and beats the
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  piss out of his wife and fucks animals on Tuesday when there's
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  a full moon, that's a little bit more than fair use.
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  What do you think, Smokey? Am I wrong wrong about that?
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  Well, yeah, I think at that point you're, you're not really
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  even delving into a, a fair use issue or a copyright issue.
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  I think at that point you're talking about like a defamation
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  thing. And I'm not a lawyer, but that
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  kind of sounds like that's more that that's less to do with like
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  the, the specific use of the content and more of what's
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  being, you know, being said, which if untrue could fall
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  under, you know, defamation. But that, you know, again, not a
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  lawyer, just kind of saying how I kind of see it.
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  But yeah, Smokey. Well, hold on one second.
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  Smokey has seen me in action. He's seen me on good days and
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  bad days. If I do, I go around just
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  telling any old person that I'm going to flag on my report.
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  No, no, no. And, and I think, you know, if I
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  was trying to carry forward the spirit of your, your issue, I, I
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  almost think it's, it's less to do with the use of the content
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  and really like what it's being used for.
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  And you're kind of, I think your issue is the idea that what
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  you're, what they're saying in your view is, is a lie, that
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  it's like slander. It's untrue, it's
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  unsubstantiated, It's giving you a bad reputation in the public
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  sphere. And, you know, having been on
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  YouTube as long as you haven't being as well known as you have
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  and how many videos have been done on you, you know, you have
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  a solid case that, you know, slander does negatively affect
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  you. But then, you know, the next
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  step is you're going to have to, you know, basically prove
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  damages, like what did this actually cost you, which is
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  always the more, you know, difficult part of the process.
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  But to me, I think, I think really your issue more, Brett,
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  has to do with a defamation component.
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  Them slandering you and saying things that aren't true more
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  than using the content. I mean, connect me, correct me
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  if I'm wrong. I think if they were using your
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  content just being like, well, Brett, you're wrong about this
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  and blah, blah, blah, I don't think you'd care.
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  I think it's the fact that you see it being connected to
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  outright defamation of your character.
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  I think I mean correct me if I'm wrong.
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  Well, it's not really about my character either.
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  It's about digging into like my kids on Facebook, trying to get
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  a hold of my little boy, trying to get a hold of my daughter,
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  that kind of stuff. So sending messages, my wife
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  calling her a whore, saying they're going to rape her and
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  all that kind of stuff. And I know you go through the
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  same thing you got atheist saying.
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  Oh yeah, I got AI got a short on my channel right now of an
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  atheist that said he wanted to rape my wife.
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  Yeah, it's no, I I get it. Yeah, it's there.
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  So yeah, that's, that's mostly the deal.
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  And you know what? You said exactly the same thing
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  the AI lawyer said. The AAI lawyer though, gave me a
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  tip, said I could get him for cyber stalking and cyber
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  bullying with the TOS and community guidelines of YouTube
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  and actually take the channel down that way.
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  But I already said in video, I don't want to take him down.
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  I'm willing to work a deal. And you heard my deal, right?
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  No, I did. I did hear the deal and I I, I,
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  I wrote a comment. I'm on board.
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  You know, I mean 100%, yeah. I just wanted to say sorry.
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  I mean, and just to be clear, I've never flagged anyone really
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  ever, not that I can remember. I've never got had a video
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  taken. Now I've had people say some
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  pretty heinous shit about me, but I've always said, and I've
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  said this even in that stream that been covered, you know,
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  hey, my content's free to use re upload restream comment on like
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  I've always been really open about that.
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  That's just my personal policy because, you know, I like the
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  idea of open, you know, communication between channels
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  and critique and, you know, nitpicking copyright and was it
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  transformative enough and stuff like that.
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  I just personally stay out of playing that game because I'm
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  just, I'm just different. I just, I just want to contend
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  with all of it. So that, but that's just.
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  You've always been good like that or and if I allow you on
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  the screen, you're not going to do to me like other DP fans and
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  show me a pecker or something, right?
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  You're going to be cool. No, that's weird.
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  Because I I'd like to have you on camera.
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  I like people. Really.
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  You you think that's weird? Yeah, I think it's weird, An
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  atheist that's. The first time I've heard an
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  atheist say that it would be morally or unethical to pull
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  out. What makes you think I'm an
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  atheist? Right.
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  You're not an atheist. What are you?
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  I just believe in a higher power.
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  I don't know if. It's.
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  Well, there you go. That's the you got me.
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  There you go. There's where the morals and
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  ethics come from. Goodman.
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  Goodman. Yeah.
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  But why do you watch that stuff? You know that stuff's wrong.
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  Or do you believe in some other concept of God that's not the
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  same as mine? Not necessarily the same as
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  yours, but you know a higher power just in general.
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  Well, that's cool. We'll definitely have to talk
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  about that after we we get over with this.
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  So smoking you don't mind that I actually said that I I would
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  just totally leave Ben alone. Just completely leave his
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  channel alone, not even have a response to him as long as he's
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  willing to interview. You, I mean, I'm 100% on board,
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  Brett, Yeah. And, and yeah, I, I'll send you
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  an e-mail and say, yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm absolutely cool with
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  that. I, I would like to be able to
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  interact with him directly because he's, he's said a lot of
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  things, some of which should be considered at a meta level that
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  he probably hasn't considered before.
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  I think there's certain meta arguments, meta ethical
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  arguments that should be made, particularly about the
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  environment and even about pit Monk.
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  Like really anything, anything that he wants to challenge me
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  on, I want to handle and take it forward and also draw the meta
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  entailments of what Ben is doing because it's not anything that
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  anyone I think should be behind. And I actually really like the
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  idea, Brett, you finding some way to just move on and
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  potentially I think if I can go on and really, you know, make a
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  been kind of answer for some of these positions and
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  justifications and things he does and says and moral
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  paradigms and so on and so forth.
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  You know, that can be, I would hope at least enough of a final
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  word to give you a little bit of closure so that you can, you
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  know, maybe move forward. Because I think even responding
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  to him or addressing him or mentioning him, it just it fuels
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  him further. And I think a lot of that
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  function to continue with you or to cover you will fade and dip
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  away as you kind of just gravitate away from his
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  environment to just basically give him the greystone
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  treatment. You know, just don't even, you
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  know, treat him like what he actually is to you, which is
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  just a, you know, a spurgy little idiot that can't do
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  anything but waste your time and realize that every bit of time
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  you dedicated to him in any type of way really ultimately is just
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  that it's a waste. So if I can facilitate some way
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  to help bring some closure and and forward momentum some of
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  this for you to move on behind this this weird, toxic, bizarre
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  structure of your past life, I'm of course more than happy to to
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  oblige. So.
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  We have another DP fan that is coming to the room.
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  Let me see what they're up to. Hello.
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  How are you? Hello, Novine *** Thank you.
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  So there's the. Clip they do by the way, because
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  it always sounds the same way when they do it.
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  You notice that it's like it's like 1 clip they they pulled off
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  of something. So he.
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  Doesn't even have the nerve. He doesn't even have the nerve
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  to say it in his own voice. Isn't that weird?
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  That's weird, right? Like you, like you're fully
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  anonymous. You're you're not on Cam, but
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  you don't even have the spine to say it with your own real voice.
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  Yeah. So, Warren, you said you had a
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  question. I do.
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  You said you've never false flagged anybody just out of, you
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  know, pure spite. No, I've never false flagged.
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  I've actually flagged though. Do you recognize me?
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  No, I don't. There is a you You've heard the
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  story, you watch my video. Well, I, I see, I seen your
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  video. It looked like you're on a new
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  channel. You've like 1 subscriber.
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  I'm not hating on you for it. Everybody takes time to grow.
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  But no, I, I don't recognize you.
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  Unfortunately. Me and Smokey, we do a lot of
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  shows. I've done shows of Proverbs and
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  we've gotten so many people, it's hard to be able to keep
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  track. Besides, I got terrible eyes.
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  Who are you? And did you buy me something,
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  pay my bills or something? No, no, no, no.
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  Back in the day, let's say. Oh, 201516 we had a little beef.
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  You flagged down one of my videos under the name Mr.
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  Action. I had a little Brett Keane
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  character that you didn't like because.
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  How? How would you know if someone
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  flagged you or not? Because it tells you that you
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  are flagged by Brett Keane. Really.
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  Really. Yes.
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  Have you ever gotten flagged before, Smokey?
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  I I mean probably, but I don't ever remember a notification of
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  like anyone who specifically followed if it I think privacy
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  complaints. I think privacy complaints.
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  I did want someone, someone filed, I think a privacy
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  complaint of some kind. And I, I didn't, I didn't get to
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  find out who it was, but it. But.
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  But it but it did. But it did say something along
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  the oh, I guess proverbs left. I guess it did say something
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  along the lines like there was a privacy complaint about blah
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  blah, blah or something in this, but I don't remember ever seeing
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  anything about, I'm not familiar with that.
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  I'm not familiar ever getting like I've had videos taken down,
• 22:50
  but I don't know if that was flagged or just, you know,
• 22:53
  general terms of service or the AI caught it.
• 22:56
  I don't know. But I've never seen anything
• 22:58
  sent to me that tells me like specifically who flagged it,
• 23:01
  unless it's like an actual like copyright claim.
• 23:03
  That's that's yeah, it's a. Copyright claim.
• 23:05
  He claimed it and then it told me to fill out my information to
• 23:10
  counter it. I did, and then it kicked it
• 23:16
  back to him. My video in the meantime was
• 23:19
  frozen. I couldn't do anything.
• 23:21
  Right. That is what would happen, yeah.
• 23:23
  Yes. And he didn't do anything and
• 23:27
  just let it time out. The thing was, is he didn't own
• 23:31
  anything in that video. It was me in a wig doing a Brett
• 23:35
  King character and he just didn't like that I was doing the
• 23:41
  Brett King character. Well, I don't remember you, but
• 23:44
  I do know that there are a lot of people who have used my name
• 23:48
  and I also know that DP has doxed my drop my dropped my
• 23:52
  doxes repeatedly. You can.
• 23:54
  They could. Put your name out there, right?
• 23:57
  You put your name out there. It doesn't matter that I have my
• 23:59
  name on YouTube like we got a guy.
• 24:01
  Right now. We got a guy that's in the room
• 24:04
  right now called Jesus Power Network and it could be an
• 24:08
  atheist. Watch this.
• 24:09
  Hello, Smokey. Smokey, see what I mean?
• 24:14
  There you go. Oh well.
• 24:15
  At least that was his actual voice.
• 24:18
  Yeah, he wanted. To why does everyone think I'm
• 24:20
  black? I'm not.
• 24:21
  I promise. I was on Cam tonight.
• 24:23
  I'm not actually black. I mean, I mean, I'll, I'll take
• 24:27
  it. I don't mind having a black.
• 24:29
  I mean, if this leads to me ultimately getting a black card,
• 24:32
  I'll take it. Like, I mean, I guess I
• 24:34
  shouldn't say anything. I'm gonna let this, I'm gonna
• 24:36
  let this roll. So back in the day Smokey,
• 24:39
  unfortunately there was a lot of non believers who would use my
• 24:43
  name and other people's names in order to same way they do in the
• 24:46
  chat rooms where they come in with people's avatars and use
• 24:50
  people's names in order. To thank you.
• 24:51
  Out to do that. So that's happened.
• 24:54
  But I did, and I always admit to this.
• 24:57
  I did flag a guy called Coughlin 666-A while back, a Satanist.
• 25:06
  I've, I've never filed A copyright claim.
• 25:09
  I've had it happen to me a couple times, but I've never,
• 25:12
  I've never personally filed one. I, I did one where thick shades
• 25:16
  got really upset at me because he was selling these like cancer
• 25:19
  causing thorium filled ionic bracelets and saying that they
• 25:22
  were like rejuvenating and stuff.
• 25:24
  So I like, I played his commercial and he said the
• 25:27
  funniest thing. He's like, he's like looking at
• 25:30
  the bracelets. He's got a cross section of them
• 25:32
  and he's like, look, it's in the shape of an MMM for mulatto.
• 25:36
  And. We all just fucking died
• 25:39
  laughing. The only M word he could come up
• 25:43
  with was mulatto. But yeah, he he copyright or he
• 25:46
  copywrote that that video and and took it down.
• 25:50
  I still have it on my computer, but I know if I play it, he gets
• 25:53
  real triggered by that and he'll he'll strike it down.
• 25:56
  That's why I just don't even bother covering Thicky because
• 25:58
  he's a real scumbag like that. Oof Smokey praise I am says he
• 26:05
  should check your mail at the house.
• 26:07
  He's going to thank you for you. All right, I'll look at that.
• 26:12
  All right, so Warren, I, like I said before, I don't even know
• 26:15
  who you are. I don't remember anything like
• 26:18
  that. The only person that I recall
• 26:20
  that I've actually did that and I even acknowledged it, which
• 26:23
  was like 20 years ago. I took out Coughlin.
• 26:26
  He had about 200,000 subscribers at the time.
• 26:29
  He was like 100 times worse than Ben could ever even dream to be,
• 26:34
  and he just wasn't stopped. There was nothing I could do to
• 26:37
  get him to stop stealing my videos and doing stuff.
• 26:40
  He wasn't dressing up like a character.
• 26:42
  He was actually stealing my content and then calling me
• 26:45
  every name in the book. Somebody's got a name called
• 26:49
  Shit Biscuit. As a pedo.
• 26:52
  I'm sorry, I can't put you up there, not with that kind of
• 26:55
  name. That's that's rough.
• 26:59
  Well, this was well, like I said, this was an old account.
• 27:03
  My name back then was Mr. Action.
• 27:05
  This was, you know, probably, you know, 10 plus years ago
• 27:10
  around that time, so. Very possible if somebody didn't
• 27:16
  like you and they also didn't like me and decide to throw my
• 27:19
  name and my docs on there, Whatever.
• 27:25
  So this is a new account, the RN account.
• 27:30
  All right, well, you know it's good you got your channel.
• 27:33
  I've been through 20 channels myself due to people false
• 27:37
  flagging and doing all that kind of stuff.
• 27:39
  Sebiski, I'm not going to let you up with the ignorant names.
• 27:43
  And also if you're just going to scream the N word, that's not
• 27:45
  nice. What do you send?
• 27:51
  You send you a cash app or something Smokey.
• 27:55
  No, no, just an e-mail from a particularly dirty, dumb, scummy
• 27:59
  cockroach. Oof, that's sad.
• 28:03
  That's rough. So Warren, tell me a little bit
• 28:07
  about your theology a little bit.
• 28:08
  If you want to continue to ask me personal questions or
• 28:11
  whatever YouTube drama, you can, but I'd like to know what what's
• 28:15
  your view? Do you just kind of generally
• 28:17
  hold to the idea of a higher power?
• 28:19
  Does it have a name? Is it a she, he, What's?
• 28:22
  What's the deal? I don't really believe in a
• 28:26
  deity really, it's just kind of the universe I guess has its way
• 28:35
  of working things out. Well, you'd said earlier you'd
• 28:40
  believed in some kind of higher power.
• 28:42
  That's why I came to the conclusion that might be the
• 28:45
  deal. Now we got Charles Michaels.
• 28:48
  Can you do me a favor? If that's the real Charles, give
• 28:50
  me a thumbs up. Give me a thumbs up if that's
• 28:55
  the real Charles. It would be Charlie Michaels.
• 28:58
  I don't know about Charles, but. OK, I think that that's him.
• 29:03
  We'll find out. Is that the real Charlie?
• 29:06
  Oh, it is. That's me.
• 29:08
  All right, let me put you up on the screen there, guy, because I
• 29:11
  know you're not going to pull out your Ding Dong.
• 29:13
  Hello Sir, good to see you. Wow, what a disgraceful debate
• 29:20
  that was for praise that really redounded to his disgrace that
• 29:26
  he he censored all your supporters.
• 29:29
  Yeah, I'm going to have to mention that to him.
• 29:31
  Yeah. Praise.
• 29:32
  If you're still in the side chat there.
• 29:34
  I got reports that people were invisible on my side and
• 29:38
  couldn't even ask questions. So that's, you know, I, I was
• 29:42
  under the impression that we had an accord that specifically for
• 29:46
  my debate, there wasn't going to be any timeouts or blocking at
• 29:50
  all, especially considering the fact that I said include
• 29:54
  everything, even if it's slanderous against me.
• 29:57
  So I really took the position that I wanted everyone to have
• 30:01
  full reign of free speech of whatever YouTube would allow to
• 30:04
  be posted. I'm really, I'm really concerned
• 30:08
  that and and by the way, that would explain why I didn't see a
• 30:10
  single question from Charlie Michaels or James Frazier.
• 30:14
  Isn't that isn't that suspicious that that I didn't get to see a
• 30:18
  single question from either of you gentlemen during that
• 30:21
  question an answer period. And I know you both were
• 30:23
  watching because we did debate prep together and you were both
• 30:27
  excited to watch and I know you were there and praise you.
• 30:29
  You need to ask why. Why is it that James and Charlie
• 30:33
  didn't get a single question out there?
• 30:36
  This is this is a problem for me.
• 30:37
  Well. He knows why he he could read
• 30:40
  the chat. He saw that we weren't there.
• 30:42
  He knows why we weren't there. So he's culpable.
• 30:45
  He knows it. Praise I I want to have a chat
• 30:49
  about that. You don't think that one of his
• 30:52
  mods might have been screwing around?
• 30:55
  Well, I think that is probably what happened.
• 30:58
  I don't think praise himself specifically did that, but he's
• 31:02
  got to find whatever rogue mod that was and was blocking
• 31:07
  because clearly you were blocked, right?
• 31:08
  You went invisible, right, Charlie?
• 31:10
  That's what happened. So you had to.
• 31:12
  They just blocked us entirely. And of course, Praise knew that
• 31:16
  it happened because he saw the earlier comments and then he saw
• 31:19
  that we were completely disappeared.
• 31:21
  So he knew what was going on. He was reading the chat.
• 31:26
  It is true if somebody blocks somebody or hides them and all
• 31:30
  that, the the main person's able to see that praise.
• 31:33
  You're going to have to work that out with smoke.
• 31:34
  You guys so wonderful together I hope.
• 31:37
  You praise I need to I to have debates over there and I want to
• 31:41
  I need to trust that that if I show up to debate something that
• 31:46
  people from my side are going to be allowed to talk.
• 31:48
  That's buddy. That's a real problem for me big
• 31:52
  time. And I don't think that's
• 31:54
  unreasonable. That's that's a huge problem for
• 31:56
  me if people that are on one side of the discussion are
• 31:59
  silenced from speaking. And especially since I
• 32:02
  specifically request this is a little bit of a betrayal towards
• 32:05
  me too, because I specifically requested Charlie and James to
• 32:09
  be there and even debate debate prep with them today.
• 32:12
  So that's that's a real betrayal to me personally that they were
• 32:18
  blocked. I hope, I hope whoever did that
• 32:21
  is going to lose their ranch permanent because that's that,
• 32:25
  that's real. That that is a direct betrayal
• 32:27
  to me and my good faith showing up to that debate.
• 32:31
  That's that. That's terrible.
• 32:33
  That's terrible. It should be a deal breaker.
• 32:36
  He knew it was going on. He could see in the chat who was
• 32:40
  there, who wasn't. And it gives the audience the
• 32:43
  false oppression that you're losing the debate because nobody
• 32:47
  is saying, Oh, yeah, you got him there smoking.
• 32:51
  Real, real quick, guys, We've it looks like praise.
• 32:54
  I am has joined the room and we've also got Eric Lynch, Mini
• 32:58
  Eric. Oh, I put him up there and then
• 33:00
  he runs off. You've been sitting back there
• 33:01
  for almost 30 minutes and you run as soon as I put you up.
• 33:05
  My goodness, I hope your heart isn't broken.
• 33:08
  Also, twins. All you need is a microphone and
• 33:11
  and somewhat of a working brain cell.
• 33:14
  At least one. And you're more than happy to
• 33:16
  participate in the show. Robin, you too.
• 33:19
  Hey, praise. What's going on?
• 33:20
  Tell us what kind of evil's going on in the world.
• 33:24
  It's, it's all sorts of certain people smoking is what I'm
• 33:29
  talking about. But I do, I do want to say to
• 33:33
  Charlie, I watched the chat thoroughly and I did not see you
• 33:36
  pop up there. So someone had to block you.
• 33:39
  And I, I, I tend to find out who did that, right.
• 33:42
  Tend to find out who did that. You stop, you knew what was
• 33:46
  going on the whole time. Didn't probably direct.
• 33:49
  You're probably the one who did it.
• 33:52
  No I, no I. I you actually have 0 scruples,
• 33:56
  you don't have the scruples of an erection.
• 33:59
  I What's your problem? Boy.
• 34:01
  Drupals have an erection. I want to use that one.
• 34:04
  Good Lord, what trusting character.
• 34:06
  You are listen, I welcome different opinion.
• 34:10
  It's. It's are you?
• 34:12
  Is that your campaign to try to make me look bad?
• 34:15
  Is that what you're trying to do here?
• 34:18
  You know, you censor all the scent.
• 34:22
  That's the whole purpose of having that demoniac dude in
• 34:25
  your studio, to shut down all the scent and disappear it like
• 34:31
  witnesses against the mob. Suck me.
• 34:34
  To suck me. To pussy, you're a disgusting
• 34:37
  human being. Praise.
• 34:39
  You think you're going to heaven, You are going to a a
• 34:42
  devil's blazing hell. Well, there is no such place.
• 34:48
  You are going to a devil, blazing hell or there is no such
• 34:53
  place. You're disgusting.
• 34:55
  Both Christian hypocrite. Stop.
• 34:56
  Being a pussy and come in the room then if.
• 34:59
  We ask you to defend. Your beliefs it's absolute
• 35:04
  hypocrite and spoke to you. If you you, if you agree to do
• 35:09
  another debate on that censored channel, you deserve what
• 35:12
  happens to you. My middle finger, you fucking
• 35:15
  pussy. All you're doing is making
• 35:17
  excuses. I would never do another debate.
• 35:22
  Uh. Oh, retard alert, retard alert
• 35:25
  Glass. Here's the thing, if I could
• 35:29
  real quick, if I could real quick price you, you would admit
• 35:32
  price something is suspicious with the fact that Charlie
• 35:35
  wasn't able to talk. Now here's the thing.
• 35:37
  I'm not going to go down the road of here's I wasn't even
• 35:41
  paying attention to side chat the entire debate because I'm
• 35:43
  busy debating. I don't necessarily think you
• 35:46
  were paying super close attention because you're
• 35:48
  moderating. So I think you trusted your mods
• 35:53
  and we had this discussion on your channel together in front
• 35:56
  of all of your mods of how I wanted my debate to be
• 36:00
  completely uncensored in terms of the side chat.
• 36:03
  Like I even said if they even said like slanderous stuff at me
• 36:08
  to even allow that. Like don't walk anything and
• 36:12
  like someone, one of your mods went rogue and it it you know
• 36:16
  when The thing is too is I'm not going to place.
• 36:19
  I'm not going to do I'm not going to take Charlie's steak on
• 36:21
  that. Honestly, I love you, Charlie,
• 36:22
  but I'm not going to take that sense.
• 36:24
  I'm going to go ahead and give you benefit of the doubt that
• 36:26
  you were distracted much as I was, because I didn't.
• 36:28
  I didn't notice it either, and I should have too, but I wasn't
• 36:31
  paying attention to side chat at all.
• 36:33
  So the same, same critique could be made to me, Charlie, and I
• 36:37
  certainly, you know, me, I didn't intend to betray you, you
• 36:40
  know, and I wouldn't have done that.
• 36:41
  I wanted to see your questions on stream and you know that.
• 36:44
  So if anything, I feel in, in the sense of that bit of
• 36:47
  betrayal. And one of your mods did that to
• 36:50
  me. One of your mods directly
• 36:52
  betrayed me. And my willingness and good
• 36:54
  faith to show up there trusting that it was going to be
• 36:58
  moderated and things were going to be allowed to be said.
• 37:02
  And that that's that, that to me, that mod, whoever that is,
• 37:06
  they did commit a specific betrayal to me and my good faith
• 37:09
  to show up there. Because I showed up there under
• 37:11
  the understanding that those types of moderation standards
• 37:14
  were going to be capped, that it was going to be free speech.
• 37:17
  And The thing is, the problem is Charlie warned me.
• 37:20
  The thing is, Charlie wrote me and I can show you emails where
• 37:23
  Charlie wrote me and said, you're going to be at three
• 37:26
  quarter volume. All of your supporters are going
• 37:28
  to be blocked from side chat. So and I, I was like, no, no
• 37:32
  praise. I'm going to do that.
• 37:33
  I've debated with praise before. He's fair.
• 37:35
  He's always been fair to me and moderated debate.
• 37:37
  This is the first time I've ever felt betrayed in a debate on
• 37:41
  your channel. And I just hope that carries
• 37:43
  with it a little bit of weight because I'm not trying to make
• 37:46
  you feel bad. I, I'm not even really entirely
• 37:49
  blaming you, but someone, someone betrayed my good faith
• 37:53
  of my performance. And whoever that is should, I
• 37:56
  would recommend lose their wrench.
• 37:58
  And I, I'm happy to keep debating and going over there,
• 38:01
  but whoever is going to do that to me or really any debater, I
• 38:04
  don't want to debate on that environment that's going to do
• 38:07
  things like that or allow things like that.
• 38:09
  So that's just my take, just to put that out there.
• 38:12
  I agree Smoke, I just want to ask Charlie a question.
• 38:15
  Surely you would have a screenshot of you being timed
• 38:18
  out or censored, don't you Charlie?
• 38:22
  Why would I have a screenshot of me being timed out?
• 38:26
  Well, I mean, that's what claiming that censors.
• 38:30
  Have blocked me. You blocked me entirely.
• 38:32
  You need. Evidence of that, that you're
• 38:34
  blocked. Yeah, Charlie, do you know how
• 38:37
  to do a screen? Charlie.
• 38:39
  CC do you know how to do a screenshot?
• 38:42
  What you do is when you see something on the screen that's
• 38:44
  crazy looking, just hit the print screen on your button and
• 38:48
  then open up a paint program and copy and paste it that way.
• 38:51
  And then you have you have evidence to be able to give and
• 38:55
  these. Types.
• 38:55
  Well, yeah. And Charlie, what you would do
• 38:57
  is if you left a comment, if you left a comment and then you and
• 39:01
  you took a screenshot and then you X out of it and went back in
• 39:04
  and your comment had disappeared.
• 39:06
  You could prove that way with those two screenshots.
• 39:09
  You were blocked because your comment would disappear when you
• 39:12
  reopen the live chat. No, I'm trying to follow the
• 39:15
  debate. I'm not trying to.
• 39:16
  Remind I know we all were, but and that's in in in the honor in
• 39:23
  the honor of true Christian grace Charlie, I just recommend
• 39:26
  we all give each other a little bit of a benefit of the doubt on
• 39:29
  this. There is a rogue Maude praise
• 39:31
  says he's going to get to the bottom of it.
• 39:33
  I want to give him a little bit of the benefit of the doubt and
• 39:35
  I just ask as a Christian brother, we we show that a bit
• 39:38
  of grace and and opportunity. That's all.
• 39:40
  That's all I request. OK, are you kidding me?
• 39:42
  This guy furnishes all of his lackeys with wrenches.
• 39:46
  What do you think he does that for?
• 39:49
  For. Me because they're friends.
• 39:50
  Current free speech a fair debate.
• 39:53
  If he, if he, if he wanted to. Honor your request.
• 39:59
  He would not have. Given any maybe this would be
• 40:02
  solved if Charlie could just get a wrench.
• 40:03
  Praise. Would that fix it, Charlie?
• 40:07
  Listen, if he wanted to have a free and fair debate, no one
• 40:11
  would have had a wrench. Instead, he furnishes all his
• 40:15
  lackeys with the wrench to make sure there would not be a free
• 40:19
  and fair debate. Smokey himself has a wrench,
• 40:23
  what are you talking about? Going.
• 40:25
  Back. You're going back there again,
• 40:27
  Smokey, to do the same thing. I too was given a wrench as well
• 40:34
  as a screwdriver in an entire toolbox.
• 40:36
  So he he does make some people that I.
• 40:40
  Understand. Anger, but we got to try to get
• 40:43
  along and actually get to the bottom of it before we jump to.
• 40:46
  Charlie, don't you think, Don't you think there was good utility
• 40:49
  with what I got out there tonight to an audience, if there
• 40:52
  was anyone out there that was willing to listen, Don't you
• 40:55
  think I still managed to make a good case, you know, for the
• 40:59
  conditionalist side? Yeah, you were occasionally able
• 41:05
  to get in a cogent point, fine, but that's not a fair debate,
• 41:10
  and that's not an excuse for what happened there.
• 41:14
  And if you're going back there to have the same thing happen
• 41:16
  again, you deserve what happens to you.
• 41:19
  I got you, I get you. That's fair and that's fair.
• 41:23
  That's fair, That's fair. Fool me once, shame on me or
• 41:27
  shame on you. Fool me twice, Shame on you.
• 41:30
  Smokey. You're going back there again
• 41:32
  for the same sort of treatment. Don't ask me to help you prep.
• 41:37
  Well, I mean, Smokey, did you feel you're unfairly treated by
• 41:40
  me in that debate? I'm just curious.
• 41:43
  Personally, no, as as you as a moderator praise no, I think it
• 41:46
  was I, I think you did fine. I think you handled both sides
• 41:50
  relatively well. I think in the and part of this
• 41:54
  too. And I would I would give some
• 41:56
  credit to this on this time around.
• 41:58
  This was a very experimental format and and in terms of the
• 42:04
  cross examination stuff that was kind of thrown together, you
• 42:07
  know, at the beginning where I think kind of more dynamic
• 42:10
  conversation might have helped. And we could have maybe focused
• 42:14
  more on even some of the points in my opening that, you know, I
• 42:18
  could have kind of dug a little bit deeper into.
• 42:20
  But but overall, I think I still got a lot of the points out, you
• 42:23
  know, the content of faith and things like that.
• 42:25
  And I think you did perfectly fine, certainly making sure both
• 42:29
  sides got to communicate and it got fiery a little here and
• 42:32
  there, but you know, you handled it and you reeled it in where
• 42:35
  you needed to. So no, I wouldn't.
• 42:37
  I don't have anything to look at your particular style of of the
• 42:40
  actual inside debate with any problems at all.
• 42:43
  I was happy with what I managed to get out there and managed to
• 42:46
  to seal down SO. Appreciate that phrase.
• 42:49
  I told you. Open, discuss.
• 42:51
  And that's the way to do it, my friend.
• 42:54
  Amen. Amen.
• 42:56
  We got God's integrity pig. I can't see the last.
• 43:00
  One Isaac. It's probably Isaac.
• 43:02
  He's he's cool. Isaac's cool.
• 43:06
  OK, you didn't notice you were being interrupted at will.
• 43:11
  You didn't notice how many times you struggled to finish a
• 43:14
  sentence. Didn't you?
• 43:15
  No, I did. No, I did.
• 43:18
  I did. And I noticed how he would
• 43:20
  intentionally cackle very loudly in the mic to try and throw me
• 43:24
  off and distract and, you know, try and distract from the
• 43:27
  points, especially with that personal attack at the end,
• 43:29
  which was, you know, just shows what a scumbag he is, you know?
• 43:34
  Why wasn't he muted? Why?
• 43:36
  Why did this so-called fair debate here?
• 43:40
  Why were these bully tactics allowed?
• 43:42
  Who tolerated them? Who made the strategic decision
• 43:47
  to ensure that you would be interrupted at will and
• 43:51
  continually? I mean, I did do a little
• 43:54
  interrupting too. I mean, I can't like say like I
• 43:56
  was completely in line and I, I did hijack cross exam a couple
• 44:01
  times. So I mean, I did do that and
• 44:04
  good Charlie, remember this was this was an experimental format
• 44:07
  that I just cooked up last time that I wanted to try this whole
• 44:11
  thing of opening and then, you know, rebuttal to the opening
• 44:14
  and then the other side opening and then rebuttal to that
• 44:17
  opening and then cross exam and open carbon.
• 44:19
  This was, keep in mind, part of this was experimental, like it
• 44:23
  was intentionally experimental. This is something I cooked up
• 44:25
  because I wanted to try it for years and I probably probably
• 44:29
  wouldn't do it exactly this way again to be honest with you.
• 44:32
  Yeah, I didn't like that format either.
• 44:35
  It it became a little tedious there with the back.
• 44:38
  To bed it did and even trying to necessary and there were certain
• 44:42
  things that I could have handled in terms of where I would have
• 44:46
  some of the things I had in my opening overlapped into a
• 44:50
  rebuttal of some of his points anyway.
• 44:53
  So, you know, having tried this out, yeah, I'm going to 86 this
• 44:57
  and, and say I would probably, I would go back to more of a
• 45:00
  traditional, probably even shorter, you know, kind of
• 45:04
  opening statement type thing where you give give a point and
• 45:07
  it's discussed and then another point and then it's discussed
• 45:10
  and, you know, each side trades points and you discuss it until
• 45:14
  it, you know, the moderator believes it's reached its
• 45:16
  critical point and then you move on to the next point.
• 45:19
  I kind of like that idea. It's kind of almost like what
• 45:21
  Charlie and I are trying to set up with Lehman Seminary.
• 45:25
  Charles, where it's going to be kind of that type of thing, like
• 45:29
  point by point type of deal and each side gets a, you know, time
• 45:32
  to kind of answer it. I kind of like that idea.
• 45:35
  I'm glad we're kind of experimenting with some
• 45:38
  different formats. But I have to take a little bit
• 45:40
  of ownership on this Charlie too, because this was kind of
• 45:44
  like an experimental format that I just cooked up that I don't
• 45:47
  want to try for a while. And now having tried it, I
• 45:50
  probably wouldn't mean to do it this way again.
• 45:52
  So I'll take a little bit of ownership.
• 45:54
  If you thought there was some lackluster, you know, I'm out of
• 45:57
  kind of formatting in terms of the moderation.
• 45:59
  I have to take some fault in that.
• 46:01
  My apologies, Mr. Oren. I know that you came in here to
• 46:05
  have a discussion, and I see that we got Mr. Integrity and
• 46:09
  also somebody called the Ghost of Smokey.
• 46:11
  Do you know them Smokey Ghost? Of yeah, Isaac.
• 46:14
  I know Isaac I'm familiar with. What was the other one?
• 46:17
  Ghost of Smokey. Oh, that's Bokey.
• 46:20
  Yeah, Bokey's cool. All right, cool, cool.
• 46:23
  So, Oren, did you have any more questions for me?
• 46:26
  Yeah, I actually want to know why you blocked me on Twitter,
• 46:29
  Brett. Because me and Ben were going
• 46:33
  back and forth and you decided to get involved in the
• 46:36
  conversation. And I think that most people
• 46:38
  would agree that if two people are trying, two men are trying
• 46:41
  to handle their business and then somebody comes in, start
• 46:45
  going in the background, kind of stirring the pot, it doesn't
• 46:48
  help for a civilized, sophisticated outcome.
• 46:51
  Anybody agree with me or am I just still?
• 46:54
  How many? How many years ago did he do
• 46:56
  you? Do you say he copyright struck
• 46:58
  you or something? What was it?
• 47:01
  Oh, like, I don't know, 8 or 9, something like that.
• 47:06
  And you're. Still talking about it, man, and
• 47:10
  you're still talking about it for real.
• 47:13
  You came in here for all of this time to talk about a copyright
• 47:17
  strike from 9 years ago. On his false flagging campaign,
• 47:22
  he's doing it again. All right, well, here's the
• 47:26
  thing. I don't know what that was
• 47:28
  about. I don't know if it was false or
• 47:30
  not. And you haven't shown anything
• 47:32
  to show that it was false. And I don't even know what it
• 47:35
  was about. And it's nine years ago.
• 47:38
  Like, how long are you going to keep this going, man?
• 47:40
  Like, is this like, really, like, how much time of your life
• 47:44
  do you spend thinking about this thing, this copyright claim from
• 47:47
  9 years ago? How much of your life are you
• 47:50
  dedicating to this energy to think about?
• 47:52
  Oh, that Brett Keene, you know, nine years ago, six months, four
• 47:56
  days and 13 hours ago, he, he filed that copyright strike.
• 48:00
  I'm going to go talk to him about it tonight.
• 48:02
  Yeah. Well, he invited me on.
• 48:05
  Yeah, but yeah, I get that dude. But the topic is your choice and
• 48:10
  what do you want to do? You want to come in and talk
• 48:13
  about a copyright strike from 9 fucking years ago?
• 48:18
  How? Because he's doing it to other
• 48:21
  people again. Yeah, but you can't even prove
• 48:23
  that it was false, and you're just claiming that it happened
• 48:25
  in general. It's.
• 48:26
  Being in a wig, doing. It, dude, again, I don't have
• 48:31
  anything to show that it even was copyright struck falsely or
• 48:34
  what you used or what was claimed and you don't have
• 48:36
  anything to show that. So what am I going to do?
• 48:38
  Just your word on something that happened nine years ago.
• 48:42
  Is this, is this how evidence works in your brain?
• 48:45
  Someone says something, I think this happened nine years ago.
• 48:49
  I don't have any evidence of it. I don't have any receipts or
• 48:51
  something. But you take my word, it
• 48:53
  happened and what, you just bite that bullet?
• 48:55
  Sounds like you should believe the Bible buddy, because it
• 48:57
  takes a lot less justification to believe that than this horse
• 49:01
  shit you've latched onto I guess.
• 49:04
  And can we be fair? Smokey?
• 49:05
  Smokey, you've known me for. You because.
• 49:08
  You're hold on a second there, guy.
• 49:10
  Hold on now. Praise.
• 49:12
  Is it not true? You've known me for years, so
• 49:14
  it's Smokey. Do I go around looking for
• 49:16
  videos of trannies dressing up in wigs and dresses and all
• 49:19
  that? Does that sound like something
• 49:21
  Brett Keane's interested in? No, no, of course crannies.
• 49:24
  And wigs have to do with. It well, you said you dressed up
• 49:27
  like a girl or something with a wig.
• 49:29
  No, I thought I dressed up like you.
• 49:30
  Are you a tranny? You dressed up in a wig like me?
• 49:34
  Oof, that's even creepier. Yeah, are you a tranny?
• 49:38
  No, I'm not a tranny. I don't remember any kind of
• 49:42
  video of you ever doing anything like this.
• 49:45
  I don't even know who you are. I invited you because you made a
• 49:48
  video putting my name in the title of recent when I was
• 49:51
  checking to see if my live broadcast was working.
• 49:54
  Whenever I did a live search, you were live and you had my
• 49:56
  name in the title. I said come on over if you want
• 49:59
  to chat. I had no idea this.
• 50:01
  Was I was not live in your. Grudge.
• 50:03
  I was not live, I was with my wife.
• 50:07
  So my life, Warren, do you have Warren?
• 50:09
  Let's let's be fair here. Is there some kind of mental
• 50:12
  issue? If there is and stuff, I can
• 50:13
  forgive you for that. What's going on here?
• 50:17
  The what's going on here is I was out living my life and you
• 50:22
  decided to comment on my video telling me to come on here.
• 50:25
  So I'm on here right now. Do you have anything else you'd
• 50:27
  like to discuss though? I mean, can we move on?
• 50:30
  This is like the fifth time you brought up something that you
• 50:33
  think happened 10 years ago. And me and Praise and Smokey.
• 50:38
  We have already seen how atheist will grab people's avatars and
• 50:42
  their images and pretend to be one of our pals, come in and
• 50:46
  fake people out. So I don't doubt that they
• 50:49
  probably flagged you and then put my name on it in order to
• 50:52
  cause a disturbance. I'm telling you, I don't know
• 50:55
  who the hell you are and I'm not going to go watch people wearing
• 50:58
  wigs and acting goofy. It's just not my thing.
• 51:01
  I'm more of a Marvel Avengers type of thing or new Superman
• 51:05
  movies. All right, you guys want to go
• 51:09
  back and forth again. It looked like Charlie left.
• 51:11
  Unfortunately, he he just wasn't.
• 51:14
  Well, yeah, he's, he's probably going to be kind of mad at me
• 51:17
  now, but whatever. I I, I mean, I got out the
• 51:20
  points that I wanted to get out. I think I kind of made a lot of
• 51:24
  the cases I wanted. I still got to make my case
• 51:27
  basically in in quick form fashion Socratic method about
• 51:31
  even if O SAS was true, it was useless in which you had to
• 51:34
  essentially concede with conceding the idea that you
• 51:37
  couldn't have access to 100% objective knowledge claims.
• 51:41
  So I was happy with that. I I was happy with the points.
• 51:43
  I did manage to land and get out.
• 51:47
  I actually, I don't really have much to say about your
• 51:50
  moderation being negative praise.
• 51:52
  I mean, just because Kevin, you know, here's the thing, I, I
• 51:55
  don't mind those situations. I'm not like Charlie, the way
• 51:58
  that Charlie wants to debate where it's like, you know, one
• 52:02
  person talks and then the other person's muted and the other, I
• 52:05
  get that that's how he wants it and that's how he thinks that's
• 52:09
  a better debate. But I mean, and Charlie, with
• 52:11
  respect to you, Sir, I have done this for a while and certainly
• 52:16
  done this now off and on for going on six years.
• 52:20
  And I do have my method. And part of my method is I do
• 52:24
  like the throw down. I understand you want that
• 52:28
  rigid, structured, streamlined, you know, type of, you know,
• 52:33
  muted on each side type thing, each response.
• 52:35
  But I I actually genuinely do like the ball.
• 52:39
  I like the punches being thrown. I like the holding them to task
• 52:43
  on the spot is I love the the open conversation part is
• 52:47
  usually always my favorite of any debate, both both to do and
• 52:51
  to watch. The rest of it I usually find to
• 52:55
  be just some type of formal tedium and that's just how I am.
• 52:58
  I'm not insulting it for those that want to do it that way, and
• 53:02
  I respect that that would be your desire for the debate you
• 53:05
  would participate in. But I think Praise did just fine
• 53:09
  for the exact type of debate that I want, which is a throw
• 53:12
  down. And we throw it out and we go at
• 53:16
  each other and there is interruptions and there is, you
• 53:20
  know, quick points and quick wit and, you know, arguments to be
• 53:23
  made and questions to pose back and forth.
• 53:25
  And there will be some, some tumult.
• 53:28
  And I think at each time that it ever really got any stage of
• 53:32
  moving out of control, Praise did rein it in.
• 53:34
  And he did so fairly like, you know, and when Kevin did attack
• 53:38
  me, Praise did allow me to go ahead and finish my statement,
• 53:41
  which I appreciate. And so, like, I can't like in
• 53:46
  terms of what I prefer and how I prefer to debate.
• 53:49
  I wouldn't put anything on praise for that.
• 53:51
  I thought he did fine. If at any point it seemed like
• 53:54
  it was moving into the realm of kind of out of control, he
• 53:59
  managed to, you know, kind of pull it back in.
• 54:01
  It kind of hurts me a little bit that you would say you wouldn't
• 54:03
  even want to help me with the next debate prep if I went over
• 54:07
  to his channel, when really this is just the kind of debate and
• 54:11
  environment I like. I'm sorry you didn't approve,
• 54:14
  but I did do my best. I think I landed the points I
• 54:17
  wanted to make and I. Guess that's all I have to say
• 54:19
  about it, so well said. Oh, and I also want to weigh in
• 54:24
  this one really quick. And by the way, welcome.
• 54:26
  Thank you for having me here. Hello, Smokey, hello praise.
• 54:28
  Hello, Brett. So.
• 54:31
  I'm doing good. I'm at.
• 54:32
  Work, but I got like 5 minutes. So just just two things I want
• 54:36
  to point out. One where we're arguing about
• 54:40
  mod rights and debate rules and whatever.
• 54:44
  I noticed also that in the debate I mean it.
• 54:46
  Was actually a. Wholesome sight to see Smokey
• 54:49
  allow Kevin to talk for maybe a few more paragraphs at by the
• 54:55
  end of the by the end of the cross examination.
• 54:58
  So I mean, maybe it's not exactly the traditional
• 55:02
  structure debate type, but it was a sight to behold that hey,
• 55:06
  you want to get something out of your chest too.
• 55:08
  So yeah, go ahead before we get into the next segment.
• 55:11
  And that's that's something that you don't see every day or in
• 55:13
  every other debate and number. 2 is what I caught in the 55
• 55:20
  minute, 25 second mark of that. One was in Kevin's attempt to
• 55:27
  leverage Romans 7. I just sensed Valentinian type
• 55:36
  dualism without him. It was, I didn't dig into it.
• 55:40
  I didn't want to go in those weeds.
• 55:42
  But yeah, it was. I know I caught it.
• 55:44
  I just didn't I? That would have been the whole
• 55:47
  rest of the debate and then some.
• 55:48
  I just wasn't going to. I just left it alone.
• 55:51
  I get it. Yes, it was.
• 55:53
  You're right. And then it was going to be the
• 55:55
  challenge of, well, if you choose to do something, are you
• 55:57
  even choosing to do it anymore? And now we have an autonomy
• 56:00
  problem. We have a modal collapse in the
• 56:02
  nature of humankind and what human autonomy even is.
• 56:05
  And it's a whole thing. It would have been a whole
• 56:07
  thing. And I just didn't want to go in
• 56:08
  those weeds. But yes, I did catch that book.
• 56:11
  May I ask you praise as well as Smokey real quick?
• 56:14
  I don't know if you heard, but Oren, he had said earlier just
• 56:17
  to make sure he gets time into the conversation.
• 56:19
  He said originally he believed in a higher power but not God.
• 56:24
  What do you guys think of that? What is your view on it?
• 56:26
  I I don't, I don't know what the.
• 56:28
  Hell, that means, or what justification there would even
• 56:31
  be to come to that conclusion, I don't know.
• 56:35
  Do you want to explain that to us?
• 56:37
  That's. Sure, go ahead.
• 56:41
  I've seen I'm coming to terms with God, I guess.
• 56:47
  I used to be an atheist. I've prayed for things and, you
• 57:01
  know, got outcomes. I've prayed for things, haven't
• 57:07
  got the outcomes that I've wanted, but that's OK.
• 57:14
  So I'm open to God. Whether it's the Christian God
• 57:20
  or other gods, I don't know, but I'm open to a God, I guess.
• 57:31
  All right, well, that's fair enough.
• 57:32
  Why do you have all the satanic paraphernalia on your Twitter
• 57:36
  for? What satanic paraphernalia.
• 57:41
  Well, your banner has like a pentagram on it and some skulls
• 57:44
  and all that. Looks kind of, I've got a friend
• 57:48
  that's actually a former 8th Satanist of the Church of Satan
• 57:53
  who likes to play with the pentagrams and the candles and
• 57:56
  all that kind of stuff. And it looked kind of similar to
• 57:58
  that. Oh, it doesn't have any
• 58:01
  pentagrams on it? All right.
• 58:04
  Well, it seems especially with the, I believe the avatar as
• 58:08
  well, it was kind of kind of unusual.
• 58:10
  We've seen quite a few different sites.
• 58:12
  I'm just kind of. I'm just wearing an.
• 58:14
  Interview exactly you said you were praying and and what
• 58:17
  happened for you? I would just, I don't want to
• 58:24
  get into any specifics, but my wife was having a type of
• 58:28
  surgery and I just prayed for her to be OK and she was.
• 58:32
  She's doing good. Well that's awesome man.
• 58:35
  God bless you on that. So.
• 58:40
  Smokey and Praise. Did you have anything you wanted
• 58:42
  to finish up? I just wanted to make sure he
• 58:44
  wasn't sitting down there all lonely, you know, roaming.
• 58:47
  I think I said pretty much what I wanted to say about it, unless
• 58:51
  praise and anything else he wants to add.
• 58:54
  Well, yeah, I would just say that the the like the necessary
• 59:00
  ontology of the being that has to exist must have necessary
• 59:04
  attributes. And we know this through the
• 59:07
  contingency argument that when you go the line of dependency,
• 59:11
  you get to something that's non dependent.
• 59:14
  And those the traits that are non dependent must necessarily
• 59:18
  have Omni attributes. And even if you want, even if
• 59:22
  you believe in another God, I mean, that's fine.
• 59:24
  You can call whatever you want, but it would still have the same
• 59:27
  descriptive attributes as a Christian God.
• 59:30
  So basically the Christian God is a necessary being.
• 59:33
  That's what I'm getting at. And if you like, if there's
• 59:36
  another like Zeus God out there, it's still contingent on
• 59:39
  something that's not dependent. And I that's why I think like,
• 59:44
  you know, the Judaism God, Christian God, at least to be
• 59:48
  consistent, would have to necessarily include at least
• 59:52
  that in the as a belief. That's just me, though.
• 1:00:01
  Well, Warren, you got a. Retort or a response.
• 1:00:04
  So you've got the floors there. Oh, I'm, I'm sorry, I was taking
• 1:00:09
  a drink. Can you repeat your question?
• 1:00:12
  Well, there's more of a point that if if you believe in a God.
• 1:00:15
  I think if to be consistent when it comes down to dependency,
• 1:00:19
  ontological dependence, that there's necessary traits and
• 1:00:23
  attributes that are that you have to accept and you know, and
• 1:00:28
  it's it's called the contingency argument.
• 1:00:32
  And like there's necessary attributes that are not
• 1:00:35
  dependent on anything else and that are not potential.
• 1:00:39
  We call them like they're non potential attributes, like
• 1:00:42
  omniscience. That's something not dependent
• 1:00:44
  on anything else. That's the maximal, I would say,
• 1:00:48
  trait or it's where those are required to believe it if you
• 1:00:52
  want to be consistent. So even if you didn't believe in
• 1:00:55
  the Christian God, it would have the same description or the same
• 1:00:59
  attributes as a Christian God. And that's that's the point I'm
• 1:01:02
  trying to get at. Did you hear him that time or
• 1:01:10
  were we taking a drink? No, I'm just trying to break
• 1:01:16
  that down I guess. All right, well, fair enough.
• 1:01:22
  What? So what you got in the future
• 1:01:24
  going on there? Praise while he's putting that
• 1:01:25
  together. Not much, man.
• 1:01:29
  I, it just caught me off guard. I, I, I do want to try to at
• 1:01:33
  least be kind to people like the people that don't like us.
• 1:01:36
  They wouldn't have shown this, you know, at least some type of
• 1:01:41
  goodness or respect, you know, for that.
• 1:01:44
  Let let least allow free speech in our channel censorship.
• 1:01:47
  And, you know, I hope Charlie finds that.
• 1:01:50
  And whoever did block them, I'm going to be really pissed.
• 1:01:53
  I will be really pissed if I find out who did it.
• 1:01:55
  But yeah. I'm apparently by the way
• 1:01:58
  they're claiming it was it was James Frazier and Charlie were
• 1:02:02
  blocked. Now I will say this, I did see
• 1:02:05
  Bond inside chat a couple times when I glanced over, especially
• 1:02:11
  towards the very end and I did see he seemed to kind of be
• 1:02:14
  taking my side. He wasn't getting blocked or
• 1:02:16
  timed out. I think you have a anti
• 1:02:19
  Charlieite because you know, Charlie and James are kind of
• 1:02:23
  together. So if they were both kind of
• 1:02:24
  blocked in unison, but Bond wasn't, even though he was kind
• 1:02:27
  of taking my side, that that makes me think is someone that's
• 1:02:30
  like an anti Charlie. I, you know, among your mod
• 1:02:33
  wrenches type thing. I think that might be what what
• 1:02:35
  happened. Just just throwing my two cents
• 1:02:37
  out there. Think so?
• 1:02:39
  That's a good, that's a good idea.
• 1:02:41
  So are you saying? I was, I was watching the stream
• 1:02:45
  on my side, making sure that it was working properly and I
• 1:02:48
  didn't see any any kind of issues.
• 1:02:51
  It looked like there was a it's a good discussion and I I did
• 1:02:54
  see praise a couple times. Get up there and say, gentlemen,
• 1:02:56
  gentlemen, let's bring it back so.
• 1:02:58
  Right, right, right now. And to be fair, I like Charlie,
• 1:03:03
  I really do. But hell, he gets pissed even
• 1:03:05
  quicker than I do and I didn't think that was possible.
• 1:03:10
  It's it's I find it hard for me to stay on his good side, but I
• 1:03:14
  I give it my best shot. So I'm going to give this my
• 1:03:18
  best shot. So are you saying that no matter
• 1:03:22
  what God I praise, that all gods are essentially the same?
• 1:03:33
  Oh, actually the opposite. I think there's only one unique
• 1:03:37
  mutually as there's only one God that's mutually exclusive with
• 1:03:41
  every other God. So if you want to, if you don't
• 1:03:45
  like the, I mean, if you don't want to call the Christian God,
• 1:03:48
  that's fine, but it would still have the attributes that are
• 1:03:52
  required if you want to be consistent with the Christian
• 1:03:55
  God. It's so it'd be descriptively
• 1:03:58
  equal or matching the Christian God.
• 1:04:01
  That's all I'm saying. No, because other gods have
• 1:04:12
  different rules to get into their equivalent of heaven I
• 1:04:20
  guess so it doesn't. They don't all have the same
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  rules as the Christian God, I guess is what I'm getting at.
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  Can we let get dude know that he is welcome to come in the room
• 1:04:35
  if he would like to join the discussion?
• 1:04:38
  Yeah, that'd be awesome. No, what I'm saying, I'm not
• 1:04:42
  even disagreeing because what the Bible calls gods is other
• 1:04:46
  divine beings or divine entities.
• 1:04:49
  Yeah, but they're contingent, though.
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  They're, they're, they don't have.
• 1:04:52
  So here's a property that I, I'm talking about.
• 1:04:54
  It's called austaity. There's only one being that has
• 1:04:58
  austaity. And that's necessarily the case.
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  And like we can go through, you know, there's the contingency
• 1:05:05
  argument, but like, you know, ontological dependence would,
• 1:05:10
  would, would be a requirement. I would say why austaity is
• 1:05:15
  required. What do you mean by ontological
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  dependence? Sorry you're throwing big words
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  at me. Oh no, yeah, that's fine.
• 1:05:27
  It's it's causation. So like direct if something was
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  caused by something else, like I was caused by my parents and my
• 1:05:38
  parents were caused by someone else, that's ontological
• 1:05:42
  dependence. So.
• 1:05:44
  OK. Yeah, like I'm dependent on
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  something else. And then you just keep going
• 1:05:48
  down the line all the way back to the to the original or the
• 1:05:53
  origin of all causation, which we would say is not dependent on
• 1:05:59
  anything else. So that non dependent source has
• 1:06:03
  attributes that are not dependent on anything else.
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  And omniscience, Omni benevolence, all those all those
• 1:06:11
  traits are necessary and not dependent on anything else.
• 1:06:18
  Oh, it looks like Robin took off.
• 1:06:31
  That's rough. So praise and Smokey, you guys
• 1:06:33
  feeling all right? You're a little bit quiet right
• 1:06:36
  now. You just.
• 1:06:36
  Yeah, me and the well, I'm about to hop in the hop in the car and
• 1:06:40
  me and the misses are going to get my celebratory post debate
• 1:06:43
  burrito. So I'm going to go do that.
• 1:06:46
  But I'm I'll stay on. But I don't know if like it'll
• 1:06:48
  get weird once I get in my car and it might kind of disconnect
• 1:06:52
  or something. But I mean, I'll be listening if
• 1:06:53
  it disconnects or something, but I might not be able to talk
• 1:06:56
  right away because sometimes the internet's funky once it
• 1:06:58
  connects to the car, so. All right, fair enough.
• 1:07:01
  Fair enough. Well praise of anything on your
• 1:07:04
  mind you want to discuss. Oh I sent you a video file you
• 1:07:08
  and smoked yet that you guys would be interested in.
• 1:07:11
  I talked to an AI about some of the different topics that you
• 1:07:15
  guys go back and forth darn and came up with some pretty
• 1:07:18
  interesting stuff. The talking one, not the not
• 1:07:21
  text AI. No, I only went to watch the
• 1:07:25
  rest of that. Wouldn't that the AI talking to
• 1:07:28
  you last night? Well, I sent you a copy, and I
• 1:07:32
  also put in the message that if you like it, you really think
• 1:07:35
  it's cool and it works for you and Smokey and all that, you're
• 1:07:38
  more than happy to mirror it if you want to.
• 1:07:40
  But I did send you your own copy of it.
• 1:07:44
  Oh man, I appreciate that. Thank you.
• 1:07:47
  Yeah, it's pretty cool. Pretty cool.
• 1:07:51
  So Warren, do you and your not trying to be personal but do you
• 1:07:56
  and your wife share the same personal view or does she have a
• 1:07:58
  different theology than yourself?
• 1:08:05
  She, she's not sure. Like she's, yeah, she's not sure
• 1:08:15
  if there's a God either. All right, that's fair enough.
• 1:08:21
  Well, praise if you, if you'd like to have a discussion with
• 1:08:24
  this person, sow some seeds. I'm going to go use the restroom
• 1:08:28
  real quick. Can you handle it?
• 1:08:30
  You're going to be able to take over.
• 1:08:32
  All right, Be right. Back to you guys.
• 1:08:34
  Praise. Remember when you're in my room,
• 1:08:36
  Same with Smokey and stuff. As far as I'm concerned, that
• 1:08:39
  you guys room too. You just jump in there whenever
• 1:08:42
  the hell you feel like it. Appreciate that.
• 1:08:44
  Right. Yeah.
• 1:08:45
  Cool man. Oh, So what do you think about
• 1:08:51
  what I what I talked about? All right, throw it to me one
• 1:08:57
  more time. So everyone is dependent on
• 1:09:03
  something else or everything that we and it's it's sort of a
• 1:09:05
  principle too. I forget the name of the
• 1:09:07
  principle right now, but and everything that exists has a
• 1:09:12
  cause, so we go down the chain of causation, which another
• 1:09:19
  another way of saying it is ontological dependence.
• 1:09:23
  OK. And I'm dependent on my parents
• 1:09:27
  and so on. And then you just go on.
• 1:09:30
  And then, you know, like all of us would be dependent on like
• 1:09:34
  some type of physical framework, like molecules or something like
• 1:09:40
  that, or some type of biology, chemistry, physics.
• 1:09:45
  And then if you get even past that, then it becomes, well, the
• 1:09:48
  universe is also contingent. And I would say if the, if the,
• 1:09:54
  if the, well, you know, the universe is contingent, even if
• 1:09:56
  it didn't have a cause, because it could have been, it could
• 1:10:00
  have a different configuration. It's, it's potentially, it could
• 1:10:05
  change in a different type of universe made-up with different
• 1:10:08
  things, a different composition. So that means the universe
• 1:10:13
  cannot be necessary even if it is eternal.
• 1:10:17
  Like I'm not even arguing if it's eternal or not, but it's
• 1:10:21
  still ontologically dependent because it could, it could have
• 1:10:24
  been another way, the configuration of the universe.
• 1:10:28
  It could have been through quarks, it could be through
• 1:10:31
  plasma or something. It could even be through
• 1:10:35
  different quantum fields or something.
• 1:10:37
  And, and the fact that it is potential, it could be a
• 1:10:42
  different way, means that it's not, it's not necessary.
• 1:10:47
  So we what, what is necessary then?
• 1:10:49
  Well, the only thing that we know that is not potential and
• 1:10:53
  not and not dependent is omniscience, omnipotence,
• 1:11:00
  omnipresence, Omni benevolence. Those things are not potential,
• 1:11:04
  and they can't be a different way because they're maximal
• 1:11:07
  traits. OK.
• 1:11:11
  So those trades are only specific to Judeo gods, the the
• 1:11:19
  judeo-christian God and maybe even you, I mean, I'll even
• 1:11:22
  throw in Allah with it. So the Islamic God, but even
• 1:11:27
  that's contended too to a point. But I mean, this will accept
• 1:11:30
  that. So it's really only really three
• 1:11:32
  or four God. Why not the Greek Greek gods or
• 1:11:36
  the North gods or like anything like that?
• 1:11:41
  Well, they had. Well, they had the.
• 1:11:42
  Gods. Sure.
• 1:11:44
  Yeah, well, they had a beginning point though.
• 1:11:46
  They there's there's a inception point where they were in in in
• 1:11:51
  their time, where they were conceived somehow, even the
• 1:11:55
  beginning of time, even the Hindu God became at the the
• 1:12:00
  beginning of the horizon or whatever figure that it says.
• 1:12:05
  But yeah, it's all gods have a a starting point.
• 1:12:11
  Yeah, as far as Greek and Roman gods, if I remember correctly.
• 1:12:16
  Big fan of Kevin's horrible Hercules phrase, so I'm going
• 1:12:19
  with it. Isn't it believe that the Titans
• 1:12:22
  actually existed before the gods, and that before that there
• 1:12:26
  was just a abysmal void in which all these elements came from, or
• 1:12:30
  something like that? Where is that?
• 1:12:32
  There's no scientific evidence for that.
• 1:12:35
  And also if the Titans existed, we should have probably seen and
• 1:12:38
  some kind of representation of them even now.
• 1:12:42
  I mean we do look for fossils correct?
• 1:12:45
  But no Titans and Titans were supposedly like 8 stories up and
• 1:12:50
  everything else they were monsters and everything that
• 1:12:53
  could control the elements. So and then the gods were born
• 1:12:57
  of of this this war between Titans according to Greek and
• 1:13:00
  Roman mythology. So it's absolutely ridiculous.
• 1:13:04
  It's obviously a bedtime story is where the Bible actually has
• 1:13:07
  scientific evidence and historical documentation behind
• 1:13:11
  it. Big difference.
• 1:13:14
  Yeah. Say, I mean just say somebody
• 1:13:19
  did want to pray to Hercules or Thor or Tear.
• 1:13:32
  Oh, I get what you're saying. What if somebody decides to pray
• 1:13:35
  to this or pray to that? You're going to notice if you go
• 1:13:38
  into any kind of nursing home or any kind of place where people
• 1:13:42
  are sick or dying. I I have never heard and all the
• 1:13:45
  time because I've got family members that work in psychiatric
• 1:13:48
  wards as well as hospitals, and I've never heard someone cry out
• 1:13:52
  with their dying breath. Hercules.
• 1:13:55
  Hercules. No, it's always Jesus.
• 1:13:58
  Why do you think that is praise? Why is it every time I've even.
• 1:14:02
  And what do atheists say? They don't go oh, Zeus, They go
• 1:14:05
  oh Jesus or oh God, you know, or oh, excuse me, my God, that was
• 1:14:11
  rough. You know what I mean?
• 1:14:12
  They never say anyone but Jesus because atheists.
• 1:14:15
  Deep downside no too. Right.
• 1:14:21
  Well, in the, I mean the same like I, I, I follow Michael
• 1:14:24
  Heizer's view and the council, there's a divine council and
• 1:14:29
  they, and these recalled rebellious entities came to
• 1:14:34
  earth and claimed to be gods. And see, they were, they were
• 1:14:37
  originally meant to be guardians of certain nations and stuff,
• 1:14:41
  but they, they turned and rebelled against the main God,
• 1:14:45
  the, the, the, what we call the non contingent God or the God
• 1:14:49
  that is above all other gods, Yahweh.
• 1:14:53
  And they claim to be their own gods.
• 1:14:55
  And these humans started worshipping them and the
• 1:14:59
  pantheon and all that stuff. So I think there is a, there is
• 1:15:02
  legitimacy, I think to some of these historical accounts of
• 1:15:07
  like the Titans and stuff were actually fallen angels and yeah,
• 1:15:14
  creations by God. They were just sons of God.
• 1:15:18
  See, that makes sense to me right there with what you're
• 1:15:21
  saying. Because, you know, the Bible
• 1:15:23
  obviously speaks of fallen angels.
• 1:15:25
  And I think back to the Tower of Babel when all of the languages
• 1:15:29
  were changed and humanity spread it out across the globe.
• 1:15:33
  Just they are speaking in different languages and they're
• 1:15:36
  starting their own cultures. And I think that's one of the
• 1:15:38
  reasons why a lot of these religions out here do have some
• 1:15:42
  form of similarities, not all the way, not where it counts,
• 1:15:46
  but some amount, because they're still thinking about the same
• 1:15:49
  God at the Tower of Babel. It's just that now their
• 1:15:52
  language is Boo, Boo, Boo, Boo Boo.
• 1:15:53
  So now God is called Boo Boo, Boo Boo Boo, You know what I
• 1:15:56
  mean? Right.
• 1:15:57
  Yeah, so it's not like I don't even think these were made-up
• 1:16:02
  per SE, maybe a little bit. But like I do think there's
• 1:16:05
  certain things out there, like even Noah's flood was recorded
• 1:16:08
  by Mesopotamia. Like there's different types of
• 1:16:12
  records of the flood, different, like different accounts of it.
• 1:16:16
  But I think there's also different accounts of fallen
• 1:16:19
  angels claiming to be gods and they had supernatural powers.
• 1:16:22
  They flew around and these type of spacecrafts and stuff.
• 1:16:27
  So I do think even UFOs are definitely real.
• 1:16:30
  They're just vehicles or you know, some type of technology
• 1:16:34
  that they this interdimensional technology that so we get
• 1:16:39
  sometimes interact with. You see this, this is something
• 1:16:44
  that just came out recently and a lot of people are starting to
• 1:16:49
  go, oh, you know why, right? 8000 The flood, Yeah.
• 1:16:58
  Isn't that crazy? That is.
• 1:17:01
  And the panda. I had to.
• 1:17:07
  I had to. Yeah, that's an inside.
• 1:17:14
  Joke. Yes.
• 1:17:16
  Yeah, Inside the panda Doran. What do you what do you think
• 1:17:23
  about people's? I've been hearing some non
• 1:17:25
  believers lately make videos stating that they believe they
• 1:17:28
  live in a simulation. What about you?
• 1:17:30
  You think there's any rationality to that?
• 1:17:35
  You. Know what a simulation is,
• 1:17:38
  right? Yeah, you know, can't rule
• 1:17:46
  anything out, I guess. Well, there you go.
• 1:17:52
  There you go. Smokey's really been digging
• 1:17:55
  into that Pascal's wager. What do you think about that?
• 1:17:58
  Do you think it's a a little bendy there praise or do you
• 1:18:01
  think it's still an effective argument?
• 1:18:03
  I personally think that there's it's still effective, but I I'm
• 1:18:06
  not as committed to it as a Smokey.
• 1:18:08
  What's your thoughts? I agree smoke.
• 1:18:11
  I think it's effective. It's like if you know how to
• 1:18:14
  utilize in the right way or to, or to like exploit it in the in
• 1:18:21
  the correct way. Like 'cause I think Smokey was
• 1:18:24
  talking about like the Pascal's Wager.
• 1:18:27
  If you if these other gods if, like I think if you, if you
• 1:18:30
  eliminate all the other gods and religions and make a specific to
• 1:18:34
  Christianity, then it becomes very effective.
• 1:18:39
  And I mean, we already did one tonight.
• 1:18:42
  Is the again, the non contingent or the contingency argument
• 1:18:45
  narrows everything down to the Christian God anyway.
• 1:18:49
  So I think there's one way you can do it.
• 1:18:52
  But I agree it is effective though, if you can narrow the
• 1:18:56
  field down, because that's usually the the objection to to
• 1:19:00
  the that the Pascal's wager as well.
• 1:19:04
  What if, what if, what if the other God exists out there, not
• 1:19:08
  the Christian God. And that's you have to, you have
• 1:19:10
  to address that. But I think you can't do that
• 1:19:12
  easily though. Yeah, I've discovered with a lot
• 1:19:15
  of especially the pompous, narcissistic, arrogant atheists
• 1:19:19
  that I've dealt with, they're they act like they're winning
• 1:19:22
  something and some kind of argument and discussion.
• 1:19:24
  And they I said, what you so happy about?
• 1:19:26
  You lose either way. And they're like, what do you
• 1:19:28
  mean? I said you ain't put a lot of
• 1:19:29
  thought in this, have you? If it turns out there's God, you
• 1:19:33
  get your ass spanked. If it turns out there is no God
• 1:19:36
  in the world and everything in it and every living thing
• 1:19:38
  doesn't matter and won't even be a memory in the universe when
• 1:19:41
  all dies. So now it's you don't get
• 1:19:44
  Browning points after it's all said and done that that sucks,
• 1:19:48
  so why even bother? Yeah, what's up?
• 1:19:52
  OK, when? When everything's said and done.
• 1:20:00
  Everything does die, but it's fine if there's you know, if
• 1:20:06
  there is a God, you know that sucks for the atheists, but if
• 1:20:13
  there is no God, you're right, everything just dies.
• 1:20:17
  But that's a cycle of life. You're going to die the.
• 1:20:22
  Problem is though is that. You're going to die, but then
• 1:20:25
  you won't hurt anymore because all those memories are just
• 1:20:31
  gone. You had your fun in life.
• 1:20:35
  You made the memories. Those were good.
• 1:20:37
  And then you die and it's you don't hurt anymore because
• 1:20:43
  they're all the pain, all the bad memories, all the physical
• 1:20:47
  pain, all that's gone. Oh, I hear what you're saying.
• 1:20:51
  The problem is is how it affects people's emotional stability and
• 1:20:56
  mental stability while they're still alive.
• 1:20:58
  I'll give you an example. Praise.
• 1:20:59
  Are you able to see this? Can you go with the the first 3
• 1:21:02
  lines and and tell me why? I'm pretty sure you know where
• 1:21:06
  I'm going with this. This is what happens when people
• 1:21:08
  think this way. Yeah, they have the highest rate
• 1:21:13
  of unaliving themselves. Hi.
• 1:21:16
  Oh yeah, substance abuse, right? Now when people don't have hope
• 1:21:22
  or they don't feel like they have any purpose while they're
• 1:21:25
  actually alive and existing, they finally start falling down
• 1:21:29
  the rabbit hole of nihilism where they see no value in
• 1:21:32
  anything. I mean, could you imagine that
• 1:21:34
  praise, looking over at the wife and saying, my goodness, you're
• 1:21:37
  a nice collection of cells and chemicals.
• 1:21:40
  How about that? I mean, in that romantic.
• 1:21:46
  Yeah, my my wife personally likes to be called a beautiful
• 1:21:49
  Angel. If I were to look at her and say
• 1:21:51
  damn, An Aniba evolved well for you to get here baby, she would
• 1:21:55
  slap the piss out of me. I've never said that to my wife.
• 1:21:59
  Do you believe that you evolved from a baboon, don't you?
• 1:22:02
  No. You don't, so you don't believe
• 1:22:05
  in evolution. I mean, I do, but I've still
• 1:22:09
  never, I've still never said that to my wife.
• 1:22:12
  That's weird. Well, if that's if you believe
• 1:22:16
  in evolution, then you have to say that.
• 1:22:18
  You have to say no, I don't. I know you're like you share a
• 1:22:22
  common ancestor with a damn monkey as well as the banana.
• 1:22:24
  No, I really don't, but that's weird to say that to people.
• 1:22:28
  So you don't believe in evolution?
• 1:22:31
  I do, but that's not how you talk to people, Brett.
• 1:22:35
  You don't talk to people like that.
• 1:22:36
  You don't tell people to come from monkeys.
• 1:22:38
  No. Why not?
• 1:22:40
  If that's the truth, why wouldn't you tell people that?
• 1:22:44
  Because that's not how you have conversations.
• 1:22:47
  You have never had a conversation about evolution
• 1:22:49
  with people praise. How many times have we had
• 1:22:51
  evolution in the monkey and banana?
• 1:22:53
  No, you just don't start off conversations like that.
• 1:22:56
  Well, I might not be the way you start it, but I do like talking
• 1:22:59
  to some primates myself. What about you, Praise?
• 1:23:06
  Yeah, I mean, well, I mean if you want to get you have to be
• 1:23:09
  realistic though. If there is no God then
• 1:23:12
  everything is just pre programmed and really I never.
• 1:23:16
  Said there's no God. I'm oh, I'm just, I'm just
• 1:23:19
  saying for those who say there's no God, I'm just saying the ones
• 1:23:22
  who believe in pure naturalism, like that's the, that's the,
• 1:23:27
  that's like the conclusion you can get to.
• 1:23:29
  Like I, I don't see how that's avoidable.
• 1:23:31
  I think that's right, that one. But since you say there's no
• 1:23:34
  God, yeah. You mean you open more doors, at
• 1:23:37
  least to talk about? So do you believe you share a
• 1:23:42
  common ancestor with a banana and a monkey?
• 1:23:46
  I share no common ancestor with a banana.
• 1:23:49
  Well, you do realize that according to Evolution, you
• 1:23:52
  share a lot of property. TJ might, but I don't.
• 1:23:55
  You TJ may think that he comes from a monkey.
• 1:23:58
  You think? No, from a banana.
• 1:24:01
  That is possible, but wouldn't that be cannibalism on his part?
• 1:24:09
  No, I'm serious. He eats them and also eats them
• 1:24:11
  from the other end as well. That's cannibalism.
• 1:24:16
  Let me see. Yeah, that's definitely
• 1:24:18
  cannibalism. Ain't they terrible?
• 1:24:29
  All right, one of these days TJ is going to get a sense of humor
• 1:24:32
  back and he's going to realize I'm a fun guy.
• 1:24:35
  All right, we had our fun. Boy, Speaking of bananas, no,
• 1:24:44
  I'm just kidding. So do you.
• 1:24:47
  Do you believe that? You also once shared a common
• 1:24:51
  ancestor with that of a rodent, an ancient rodent, the creature
• 1:24:55
  that came right before the the primate.
• 1:24:58
  I haven't heard of this one but. What the hell do you think?
• 1:25:02
  The monkey? The monkey didn't just dump out
• 1:25:04
  of the water and do it, He had to go through a bunch of
• 1:25:05
  transitions and neat, cool. Stuff.
• 1:25:07
  Yeah, I've heard of the fucking tadpole.
• 1:25:12
  Well, that's that's like billions of years ago, according
• 1:25:15
  to the claim I'm talking about, when the thing finally turned
• 1:25:18
  into a lizard squirrel and started climbing trees and
• 1:25:21
  stretched out into a monkey. Yeah, and around the time that
• 1:25:26
  the primate started to learn how to roller skate.
• 1:25:29
  Right. Praise ain't that terrible.
• 1:25:41
  Yeah. I'm not saying this about Oren,
• 1:25:43
  but you get these atheists that come in and say how Can you
• 1:25:46
  believe in something so stupid? I'm like, you think that your
• 1:25:49
  grandpa's a damn monkey chewing on another banana that shares
• 1:25:53
  the same ancestry with it. It sounds like damn Disney movie
• 1:25:56
  to me. Yeah, it gets kind of ludicrous,
• 1:26:01
  yeah. So what else questions you got
• 1:26:06
  for us, Oren? You the wondered why people
• 1:26:08
  aren't praying the Hercules? I think we answered that pretty
• 1:26:11
  good. Oh, I don't know, Brett.
• 1:26:18
  Think that's all I got. I hope that this didn't change
• 1:26:23
  your mind. And bananas because they are
• 1:26:25
  actually delicious. Or, and I do, I do more live
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  shows and all that. I'm going to be doing something
• 1:26:37
  on Saturday and if Praise opens up a show in between or Smokey,
• 1:26:41
  I'd definitely go hang out with them guys and harass them for a
• 1:26:44
  little bit. If you have any topics you want
• 1:26:46
  to bring up besides like drama and the nonsense, because I'm
• 1:26:49
  trying to get through all that right now.
• 1:26:52
  Yeah, I mean, I would love to go into philosophical arguments for
• 1:26:58
  God sometime. That'd be cool.
• 1:27:00
  OK. Warren, why why is it that you
• 1:27:06
  why do you feel like there's why is it difficult for you say that
• 1:27:11
  you believe it's possible to be at higher power.
• 1:27:14
  So what's what holds you to believe in that that's possible?
• 1:27:18
  Let's start there. That sounds like a good one.
• 1:27:20
  What do you think Praise we. Also know in the yeah,
• 1:27:23
  absolutely. What holds me to believing that
• 1:27:28
  it's a higher power? Well.
• 1:27:29
  The possibility of it. Oh well, just a feeling I guess.
• 1:27:45
  I'm starting to think that REO Speedwagon can't fight.
• 1:27:48
  This feeling's about to break out.
• 1:27:50
  No. So you have a feeling inside of
• 1:27:54
  you that there's there's something greater going on.
• 1:27:57
  You feel better. Well, there you go.
• 1:28:00
  What do you think? Praise.
• 1:28:01
  It sounds like he's at least on the on the next level.
• 1:28:04
  He's he's beyond atheism. Yeah, well, the greatest
• 1:28:08
  thinkers of all time have come to the idea that there is a
• 1:28:12
  greater power out there. So you're, I mean, you're not
• 1:28:15
  like, if you go to that reasoning as like, you'd feel
• 1:28:19
  that like you're you're in good company there.
• 1:28:21
  Like you have. What is it?
• 1:28:23
  Einstein did the same thing. And Newton, Isaac Newton had
• 1:28:27
  like an IQ of 800 or something. And he's, yeah, he came to the
• 1:28:31
  conclusion that there is a higher power.
• 1:28:33
  So I think you'd be joining, you know, a very cool group of
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  people out there. Yeah, how come dude didn't come
• 1:28:48
  in? He didn't slept on a banana, did
• 1:28:49
  he? He's probably busy doing some.
• 1:28:57
  All right, so I got a question for you Oren.
• 1:28:59
  It's a hypothetical. Now make sure you listen to me
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  close. I'm going to try to keep it as
• 1:29:03
  simple and straight and not use any fancy ass words like brother
• 1:29:07
  praise over there tends to do. Here we go.
• 1:29:10
  You wake up in the morning and you find yourself in a dark
• 1:29:13
  room. There's 2 doors that you can see
• 1:29:16
  as your eyesight starts to clear up.
• 1:29:18
  As you walk towards the door, you notice that there's a sign
• 1:29:21
  on each one of them. One of them says for a fact this
• 1:29:25
  is a universe without God. And then you look at the other
• 1:29:28
  door and it says for a fact Jesus Christ is running this
• 1:29:32
  universe and has no plans of vacation.
• 1:29:35
  Which one do you choose? Now keep in mind, whichever door
• 1:29:39
  you go through, the door disintegrates behind you and you
• 1:29:42
  can never go back and make a choice again.
• 1:29:45
  A God universe or a universe that will eventually die without
• 1:29:49
  a God? Don't worry, it's not jeopardy.
• 1:30:00
  Take your time. Well, here's where I have an
• 1:30:18
  issue because the Holy Trinity comes into play and Jesus Christ
• 1:30:29
  is God. And this is where I have an
• 1:30:36
  issue with Christianity, because I have an issue with God.
• 1:30:44
  Which means like, Jesus was kind of the good guy, but God was
• 1:30:54
  not. How so?
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  Because he endorsed slavery and impregnated a 13 year old just
• 1:31:08
  for a couple of reasons. So according to your subjective
• 1:31:13
  opinion, morally you're going to choose a door that doesn't have
• 1:31:17
  God in it to the universe that will eventually die?
• 1:31:27
  Yeah, and we could address the slavery and the if you read Luke
• 1:31:31
  1, Mary gave consent. Even in the Greek syntax.
• 1:31:36
  It's in the imperative. The imperative is the the mood
• 1:31:40
  of consent. Couldn't give consent though
• 1:31:42
  because she was a child. Who said that?
• 1:31:48
  The Bible. No it didn't ever said she was a
• 1:31:51
  child. She was getting she had a
• 1:31:53
  husband at that time. The Jews, if I'll give you
• 1:31:57
  citation on this, the Jews don't allow anyone to get married
• 1:31:59
  under 18. Joseph was her husband.
• 1:32:07
  Yeah, back in Jewish laws and everything, you had to have a
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  certain set up before you can get into the whole engagement
• 1:32:15
  issue in order to be able to get married and all that.
• 1:32:18
  I don't know who told you that you need to quit visiting Evil
• 1:32:21
  Bible. I don't like it.com and and
• 1:32:23
  actually look into some of that stuff before we get into it.
• 1:32:26
  But you still haven't answered my question.
• 1:32:28
  Which door do you go through? Do you want to go into the door
• 1:32:31
  that is factually a universe without God or factually with
• 1:32:35
  God? Which universe would you choose?
• 1:32:37
  This kind of helps me determine where a person's spirit is or
• 1:32:41
  soul praise. Right, help me with the slavery
• 1:32:47
  thing. Sure.
• 1:32:51
  So the the summation of the law, Jesus said is a loved neighbor
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  in your God. So any type of infraction
• 1:33:00
  against your neighbor is a sin, Meaning if you rape, pillage,
• 1:33:04
  and slave your neighbor then that would be against the moral
• 1:33:07
  law. So Jesus said the summation,
• 1:33:10
  only the New Testament, but even the Old Testament law, because
• 1:33:13
  he's expounding on the law itself.
• 1:33:16
  And so that is the essence of the laws, to love God and love
• 1:33:20
  your neighbor. Leviticus 1934 says that to love
• 1:33:25
  your foreigner because you were foreigners in Egypt.
• 1:33:28
  So to love foreigners as yourself, that's right there,
• 1:33:33
  love God and love neighbor. That's the the principle of the
• 1:33:36
  whole Bible. That's not what I'm talking
• 1:33:38
  about. I'm talking about the part where
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  it says you can beat your slave and as long as he doesn't die
• 1:33:43
  within like a day or two then like you're OK.
• 1:33:49
  But if he dies then what? Like you're to be put to death
• 1:33:54
  or you pay a fee. Where do you where do you think
• 1:33:59
  you found that in the Bible? Oh, I'll pull it up.
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  Hang on. Yeah, I'll explain that's it's
• 1:34:05
  easy to explain. I I have no issue with this
• 1:34:08
  going into that but I believe it's in the book of Exodus and
• 1:34:12
  isn't that the same book where? Most so you do know what I'm
• 1:34:15
  talking about and I don't. Know, hold on, I'm asking you
• 1:34:18
  where you think you got it from. Of course I know.
• 1:34:20
  I read the Bible. So here's the thing.
• 1:34:24
  What was the book of Exodus about, ladies and gentlemen?
• 1:34:27
  It was about Moses being told by God directly to go free hundreds
• 1:34:32
  of thousands of slaves. Am I right?
• 1:34:34
  Praise. And what happened to the slave
• 1:34:37
  master after it was all said and done?
• 1:34:39
  He didn't have a party, did he? What happened to what happened
• 1:34:45
  to the Pharaoh? Oren, do you remember what
• 1:34:47
  happened to the guy who owned all those slaves?
• 1:34:54
  God, I'll give you a hint. Has something to do with the
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  ocean. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Come on.
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  Give it to me, baby. Hang on.
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  And if we do aren't to others as we want done unto us and we want
• 1:35:11
  to love our neighbor and all this, and obviously Jesus is
• 1:35:15
  saying that's not the way we do we we're we're equality from the
• 1:35:19
  get go. Yeah, I don't want to explain
• 1:35:24
  something in Exodus 21 where he's going.
• 1:35:25
  I know where exactly where it is.
• 1:35:27
  It's called due process. Two or three days was not so
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  that he can get back up limping if he beat the shit out of him
• 1:35:34
  or, you know, beat the life out of to an inch of his life.
• 1:35:37
  Because we know that verse in a few verses later, it says that
• 1:35:41
  even if you hurt their tooth or if you hurt their, what is it,
• 1:35:46
  their nose or their mouth, whatever.
• 1:35:48
  Yeah, that they would, they would be released from their
• 1:35:52
  contractual obligation. And so you couldn't do that.
• 1:35:57
  They were they were protected. There were safeguards from from
• 1:36:00
  abusing your your slave by we mean by slave too, we mean like
• 1:36:04
  a servant, like someone that would work for labour to work
• 1:36:07
  off debts. And that's all it's always going
• 1:36:10
  on in the engineering. There's people that were
• 1:36:13
  destitute in, in, in debt. So what they, they, they
• 1:36:19
  couldn't pay the debt off. So what they would do is they,
• 1:36:22
  they would go to a master and hook themselves into a master
• 1:36:26
  into their household through a legal process until the master
• 1:36:30
  died or when the 50th year having the jubilee, they'd be
• 1:36:34
  released. So there's nothing nefarious
• 1:36:37
  going on at all. God loves foreigners.
• 1:36:41
  Yeah, yeah. It's like indentured servitude.
• 1:36:45
  It's kind of like in the Western times and still today where
• 1:36:49
  their cowboy ranches and all that, where they wrangle cows
• 1:36:53
  and horses and all this kind of stuff.
• 1:36:54
  People can go and say, look, I'll, I'd be willing to sign a
• 1:36:57
  contract and be able to work the land and all that and help cut
• 1:37:01
  the grass, catch the, you know, get the sheep out there in order
• 1:37:04
  to bring some of the animals. And I live in Missouri, so we
• 1:37:06
  have a lot of farmland and people go out all the time and
• 1:37:10
  they sign contracts to state that.
• 1:37:12
  Yeah, I will do this job and this is how many years I'm
• 1:37:15
  willing to do it. If you give me room and board
• 1:37:17
  and food and all that, I'll, I'll work my ass off for you.
• 1:37:20
  That's how the Cowboys do it. You're not much of A cowboy, are
• 1:37:29
  you? Or, and you probably don't know
• 1:37:31
  what I'm talking about, but it's cool.
• 1:37:32
  It's cool. No, you're spot on.
• 1:37:37
  Like even today, poor truck drivers are called indentured
• 1:37:40
  servants and I don't think anyone like with social justice
• 1:37:44
  warrior is going to be saying that's like actual chattel
• 1:37:47
  slavery. So chattel slavery is much
• 1:37:51
  different than indentured servitude.
• 1:37:53
  There's there's a huge difference between those.
• 1:38:00
  I don't know if you knew this phrase, but they actually have a
• 1:38:04
  lot, especially Disney. They make a lot of their actors,
• 1:38:07
  whenever they want to do superhero movies, they know they
• 1:38:10
  might end up with a sequel of the first one as a banger.
• 1:38:14
  So they have them sign a contract for like 5-6 years
• 1:38:18
  because they know they might call them back and say, hey, we
• 1:38:20
  need you. We're going to be doing Iron Man
• 1:38:23
  2 or Iron Man 3 or another Avengers where we need all of
• 1:38:26
  you to come back and do that. Well, they signed a contract and
• 1:38:29
  now they're getting paid in order to be able to do that.
• 1:38:33
  So it's not really slavery. It was an unusual word used back
• 1:38:36
  then, but in the original language it was basically
• 1:38:39
  servitude, like indentured. Do you understand the word?
• 1:38:43
  Yeah. No.
• 1:38:48
  You don't like that and it doesn't work with the website.
• 1:38:54
  Here, does this sound at all like indentured servitude to
• 1:39:03
  you? Anyone who beats the male or
• 1:39:10
  female slave with the rod must be punished if the slave dies
• 1:39:19
  direct as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if
• 1:39:25
  the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their
• 1:39:32
  property. It does not say anything about
• 1:39:36
  indentured servitude. Well, first of all I do you
• 1:39:42
  understand what due process is? Yes.
• 1:39:48
  So there would need to be two or three witnesses.
• 1:39:51
  That's why it's two or three days.
• 1:39:52
  It's, it's a rhetorical device. I'll give you citations from
• 1:39:56
  actual scholars. I, I put a whole book out on
• 1:39:59
  this you can look at if you want, I'll send it to you.
• 1:40:01
  The PDF that it would be two or three witnesses that something
• 1:40:06
  is established. That's that's why the days, it
• 1:40:09
  could be two or three, 4-5 days. It didn't matter back to the
• 1:40:13
  Jews back then. There needed to be two or three
• 1:40:16
  witnesses. Well, think about it, why due
• 1:40:19
  process is needed there? Because they could fraud their
• 1:40:22
  master by lying. And getting out of their
• 1:40:25
  contractual obligation. So there had to be witnesses for
• 1:40:29
  them to say that their master abused them.
• 1:40:32
  And if there was evidence that they were abused, not only were
• 1:40:36
  they free from their contractual obligation.
• 1:40:39
  As verses 26 and 27 says, Lex Taliona supplies strife for
• 1:40:44
  strife, bruise for bruise, and life for life.
• 1:40:47
  If someone if if one of their masters slapped him in the face
• 1:40:51
  or hit him with the rod, the their own servant could hit him
• 1:40:55
  back. That's called lex talionis.
• 1:40:59
  Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth.
• 1:41:00
  So they were under lex talionis. So that's just factually untrue,
• 1:41:04
  what you just said there. It was literally right there.
• 1:41:10
  Yeah, I that's what I'm explaining.
• 1:41:11
  The two or three days is for due process.
• 1:41:14
  It's not because, Oh well, I just beat the shit up my, my
• 1:41:18
  slave. I'm going to give him two days
• 1:41:20
  to, to, to get back up and get going.
• 1:41:23
  Because if you think about it, I mean, I, I've hurt myself on a
• 1:41:26
  basketball court, my ankle, I'm out for a week.
• 1:41:30
  Does that even make any sense? If you could do that?
• 1:41:32
  Like the slave couldn't get back up in two or three days.
• 1:41:35
  Yeah, because he was beat the shit out of.
• 1:41:38
  Well, he couldn't get back up in two to three days, you know what
• 1:41:41
  I'm saying? You're, you're not getting what
• 1:41:42
  I'm trying to say. Doesn't make any sense here.
• 1:41:45
  To. Help though.
• 1:41:46
  Hey Oren, have you ever made a a video about modern day slavery
• 1:41:50
  that goes on in Nigeria and different parts of South Africa?
• 1:41:56
  You know, I have one video, Brett.
• 1:41:59
  Well, have you ever? You said that you used to make
• 1:42:02
  videos in the past. Have you ever talked about the
• 1:42:05
  godless people in some of those countries who keep slaves?
• 1:42:08
  Have you ever made a video talking against it?
• 1:42:12
  I have not. Why not don't you?
• 1:42:15
  Isn't slavery a problem for you? It is.
• 1:42:19
  You plan on making some videos about the godless people who are
• 1:42:22
  keeping slaves even now as we breathe.
• 1:42:26
  Maybe I will, Brett. It sounds like a good idea.
• 1:42:30
  They would be morally consistent, right?
• 1:42:31
  Praise. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:42:34
  You're focusing on things I don't think you understand, like
• 1:42:37
  even the framework of the Torah with casuistic law, epidemic
• 1:42:41
  law. These are, these are casuistic
• 1:42:43
  laws. They're they're not even
• 1:42:45
  statutes that are unconditional. These are conditional laws,
• 1:42:50
  hypothetical laws that you can't even connect to Yahweh in the
• 1:42:52
  1st place. Like, I don't think atheists
• 1:42:56
  understand what they're critiquing.
• 1:42:58
  I mean, not you and necessarily you maybe because you, you might
• 1:43:01
  be a theist. I'm just saying those who are
• 1:43:03
  against the the Pentateuch or the Old, the Old Testament, I
• 1:43:07
  don't think they understand what they're critiquing.
• 1:43:10
  Praise. I'll be right back.
• 1:43:11
  I'm going to grab me some Fruit Loops and stuff.
• 1:43:13
  You you going to be able to handle the show.
• 1:43:16
  I certainly can, Brett. All right.
• 1:43:18
  I think you're getting through the Oren, teaching, educating
• 1:43:22
  them or something like that. Yeah, I would just say with the
• 1:43:26
  two or three days, it's a. Little bit brat.
• 1:43:33
  Do you see what I'm saying? The two or three days is
• 1:43:36
  judicial due process. It's not, it has nothing to do
• 1:43:40
  with like trying to get the slave operative again.
• 1:43:45
  If he's, if he was beat or something, it's it's not talking
• 1:43:49
  about that. Because of Lex Talionis eye for
• 1:43:57
  an eye, he'll bruise for a bruise, strife for stripe, life
• 1:44:02
  for life. So if the slave was beat, he
• 1:44:05
  could beat, he could beat his master back in retaliation.
• 1:44:17
  I mean, it even says that in the verses there.
• 1:44:18
  If you, if you read Exodus 21, 20 through 27, you'll, you'll
• 1:44:23
  get it. It says it right there.
• 1:44:30
  That was. Verse 20.
• 1:44:36
  Yeah, it. Is 21 verse 20.
• 1:44:53
  Yeah, but looks through verses 20 through 27.
• 1:45:16
  All right, I'm actually have to take these off and put my real
• 1:45:19
  glasses on to read this. Just did we solve modern day
• 1:45:27
  slavery yet? I think we're getting there,
• 1:45:31
  hopefully after he reads his verses.
• 1:45:37
  Believe in Deuteronomy. It states according to law that
• 1:45:40
  if someone kidnaps another person against their will or
• 1:45:44
  whatever, isn't that capital punishment?
• 1:45:47
  It is death penalty for someone who kidnaps or enslaves them
• 1:45:53
  through that. Yeah, enslavement.
• 1:46:09
  So there we go. You said you like Jesus there,
• 1:46:12
  Oren, and we've talked about how Jesus says to love your enemy,
• 1:46:17
  love your neighbor, do unto others, treat others.
• 1:46:19
  You want to be treated well. It's kind of hard to find the
• 1:46:22
  time to just go picking on people and open up plantations
• 1:46:26
  with that kind of philosophy to see, am I right praise.
• 1:46:30
  Spot on Brett. That is the principle of the
• 1:46:33
  whole Bible is love. Jesus made that clear.
• 1:46:36
  He says the whole law and the prophets hang on these two
• 1:46:41
  commandments, loving God, love your neighbor.
• 1:46:45
  So he just told you that the the pettys of the Torah is is
• 1:46:50
  constructed or that's framed by love.
• 1:46:55
  So I just think, you know, some people just don't know how to
• 1:46:58
  understand ancient Near Eastern culture too.
• 1:47:01
  And it is sort of a present his fallacy.
• 1:47:04
  It's ethnocentrism. And sometimes I'll even say
• 1:47:09
  this, it borderlines on anti-Semitism as well.
• 1:47:13
  We got to be careful with that. This says that if there's only a
• 1:47:20
  serious injury that the eye for an eye tooth for her tooth
• 1:47:26
  applies. Who said that or what verse are
• 1:47:31
  you reading? The Exodus 23.
• 1:47:38
  Oh, Exodus 23? I thought we were in 21.
• 1:47:43
  Exodus 21, verse 23. All right, let me read that.
• 1:47:56
  Got that nifty virtual Bible, Aren't you there?
• 1:47:59
  Praise. I I use the KJVI thinks there's
• 1:48:05
  some corrupted versions out there and if any mischief follow
• 1:48:09
  then that shall give life for life.
• 1:48:11
  And this is talking about the the miscarriage of someone
• 1:48:15
  causes a miscarriage. So that doesn't even apply to
• 1:48:18
  the. We're talking about indentured
• 1:48:21
  servants here. I mean, I'm looking up at the
• 1:48:29
  whole thing that you told me to read, and that's where the eye
• 1:48:33
  for an eye applies. That's the only part where it's
• 1:48:37
  talking about it. 23 through 2720320425 26 apply or yeah we
• 1:48:51
  know. I mean they would.
• 1:48:52
  It applies to both because 26 and 27's not talking about
• 1:48:57
  miscarriage. Yeah, but that's just talking
• 1:49:08
  about letting the slave go free. From his contractual obligation,
• 1:49:13
  right? So you couldn't just beat your
• 1:49:15
  slave senselessly because it says even if their eye or tooth
• 1:49:21
  were hurt. And you know, I'll give you
• 1:49:23
  Christopher Wright is a scholar. He says that means any
• 1:49:27
  unwarranted assault at all. So it's a figure of speech.
• 1:49:30
  It's not trying to be specific there.
• 1:49:32
  And that's that's the whole point of lex talionis anyway,
• 1:49:35
  that it's it's a universal laws. We're not talking about specific
• 1:49:39
  laws. Oh, I praise I I didn't add this
• 1:49:44
  earlier. We were talking about that verse
• 1:49:47
  about Deuteronomy and all that. Well, apparently there's also a
• 1:49:51
  passage in Exodus 2116 that says anyone who kidnaps someone is to
• 1:49:57
  be put to death, whether the victim has been sold or is still
• 1:50:01
  in the kidnappers possession. This this right here condemns
• 1:50:05
  forcibly taking people, but basically that practice of
• 1:50:10
  slavery. So there you go, right there.
• 1:50:14
  Same book too. Yeah, trafficking, slave
• 1:50:17
  trafficking, that's that's what shadow slavery is, is slave
• 1:50:21
  trafficking. So that that it would
• 1:50:23
  immediately refute any type of chattel slavery when Brett just
• 1:50:29
  read there. Absolutely.
• 1:50:37
  Gotta quit looking at those. I don't like the bible.com
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  sites. They don't give you the full
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  context there fella. I'm reading straight from the
• 1:50:45
  Bible, Brett. You are.
• 1:50:48
  I am. All right, well, you did hear
• 1:50:52
  the passage I shared with you right there, didn't you?
• 1:50:55
  Of course. There you go guy, while you're
• 1:51:03
  looking up some more verses about how mean God is in the
• 1:51:06
  Bible. Let me show pray something real
• 1:51:08
  quick. It'll tickle him.
• 1:51:09
  I praise. Are you watching your screen?
• 1:51:12
  Yes. You always like showing me funny
• 1:51:14
  stuff, so I got something for you.
• 1:51:16
  You ready? Yeah, you go.
• 1:51:45
  Look, you're gone now. You need a job because you're
• 1:51:52
  away. You need a voice because your
• 1:51:57
  voice is small. Enough is enough.
• 1:52:32
  None. That one's so spot on there.
• 1:52:53
  That's great. That's exactly how I view them
• 1:52:56
  as like idiot animals almost making animal noises.
• 1:53:00
  That's a good point. Well, be careful you don't want
• 1:53:03
  to offend Doran. That's actually a lot of that
• 1:53:06
  are atheist organizations and protesters, so you know what I
• 1:53:10
  mean? How does that offend me?
• 1:53:16
  But my favorite one is the pug though praise.
• 1:53:19
  Yes, the first one was funny too.
• 1:53:22
  Is that was that a a manatee or? No, that was a walrus.
• 1:53:27
  That's a walrus right there. My my manatee sibling told me
• 1:53:32
  so. Kate Orne So there's a member
• 1:53:39
  like see the the Pentateuch is basically copies of each other
• 1:53:45
  the law. So if you go to Leviticus 2417
• 1:53:48
  and read through 21 you'll or 22, I mean, you'll see what I'm
• 1:53:53
  saying because it's just the way it's worded and it sounds like
• 1:53:57
  what you're saying. It's only talking about the
• 1:54:00
  miscarriage. But good.
• 1:54:02
  Leviticus 2417 to 22 and you'll see exactly what I'm saying.
• 1:54:07
  Oh, I praise. I was telling you while he's
• 1:54:09
  looking that up. You remember I was telling you
• 1:54:12
  that I ended up making a bunch of T-shirts about the memes that
• 1:54:15
  atheists were calling me these. I sold just a ton of these.
• 1:54:20
  Look at this. Tell me what you think.
• 1:54:24
  I like E. It's pretty cool, ain't it?
• 1:54:28
  The one over there that T2R is wearing, He's obviously I got
• 1:54:31
  these people modeling for me where it says evolution,
• 1:54:37
  Evolution is magic. The one with the monkey vision.
• 1:54:41
  You like that? I do, Brett, I do.
• 1:54:45
  Look at this. I even got myself on a mug.
• 1:54:47
  There we go. I'm going to give me one of
• 1:54:49
  them. There you go drinking out of Mr.
• 1:54:52
  Keen. It's immoral.
• 1:54:54
  There you. Go.
• 1:54:57
  What's got 4 Soren more means? You said it was Leviticus 17.
• 1:55:04
  What? No 24?
• 1:55:05
  Yeah, Leviticus chapter 24 verses 17 through 22 and you'll
• 1:55:11
  see exactly what I'm talking about.
• 1:55:15
  Which is 24, 17 through 22. So right here,
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  make restitution, life or life. I do it, I guess, while we're
• 1:56:11
  waiting this, that first class, third world, running my own.
• 1:56:25
  Oh boy, you're all right over there.
• 1:56:30
  Praise. Sound like you're about to have
• 1:56:31
  a poop or something. Oh no, it's, it's, it's awesome
• 1:56:36
  when people Start learning about the truth and they've OK lies
• 1:56:41
  and they go, Oh my gosh, you're right.
• 1:56:42
  But go ahead. Or if you want to talk about
• 1:56:44
  that. OK, so this is the eye for an
• 1:56:58
  eye thing. Right.
• 1:57:01
  OK. It's really a copy of Exodus 21,
• 1:57:05
  but it's it's, it's, it's, I think in a much better form.
• 1:57:08
  It's more understandable, clear, you know, about Lex Telionis.
• 1:57:14
  Did you, did you read 22? There's, there's one law for the
• 1:57:18
  Jews and one law for the foreigners.
• 1:57:20
  So one thing. You have you are to have the
• 1:57:24
  same law for the foreigner and the native born.
• 1:57:28
  I am the Lord your God. Yeah, so there wasn't like
• 1:57:33
  another set of laws. So you couldn't, you could not
• 1:57:36
  beat your own Israelites. I mean, usually even most
• 1:57:39
  atheists out there that are against the Bible will agree
• 1:57:42
  that there's no there's no pro or there's no endorsement of
• 1:57:47
  slavery to their own people. But they don't read that other
• 1:57:50
  verse in Leviticus 2422 where it says even you're foreigner is
• 1:57:55
  under the same law. So that would that would
• 1:57:58
  preclude any slavery, right? Would you agree?
• 1:58:03
  Yes. There we go.
• 1:58:06
  Praise. You probably heard non believers
• 1:58:09
  in the past make claims like a Bible endorses slavery and all
• 1:58:12
  that kind of stuff. Did you know when they were
• 1:58:14
  getting rid of slavery in America?
• 1:58:17
  This is the verses Christians would use in order to show that
• 1:58:20
  Jesus did speak out against it. There's one right there for you.
• 1:58:24
  That was one they used in the old days to free the slaves.
• 1:58:29
  Amen. Yeah, Jesus came to liberate
• 1:58:34
  people out of slavery, not put them in slavery.
• 1:58:37
  Paul even says that even tells people if you're in slavery, get
• 1:58:41
  the hell out of slavery, Don't be a slave.
• 1:58:43
  Like so people have their the opportunity or or their own
• 1:58:48
  volition to get out of slavery. So God's against slavery.
• 1:58:52
  He's a Liberator. He hates oppression.
• 1:58:59
  God hates oppression. Yahweh does.
• 1:59:10
  Oh boy, sounds like somebody's got an aquarium over there.
• 1:59:18
  So aren't you got any more for us?
• 1:59:20
  I think we've shown you in the Old Testament, New Testament
• 1:59:23
  that, uh, slavery's not something that's endorsed or
• 1:59:26
  supported. It's obviously Christians who
• 1:59:29
  were the ones that actually, uh, went through the whole wars,
• 1:59:33
  everything like that, in order to be able to set the slaves
• 1:59:36
  free. You don't hear about any atheist
• 1:59:38
  participating in that awesome liberal action, right?
• 1:59:47
  Anything else? I don't think I have anything
• 1:59:51
  else. Well, now that we've gotten
• 1:59:54
  through that, what store do you pick?
• 1:59:59
  I guess the one with Jesus. Amen bro.
• 2:00:04
  Praise God, man. That is what I mean.
• 2:00:07
  If you put your trust in Jesus, he will save you my man.
• 2:00:11
  And yeah, you're all your sins are forgiven and he will now
• 2:00:18
  he'll, he'll partner with you and you have a relationship with
• 2:00:22
  him and he'll, he'll, he'll lead you to become more godly and in
• 2:00:28
  his image and, you know, be loving to people.
• 2:00:31
  That's that's the whole point. After you believe is becoming
• 2:00:35
  just like him, which is pure love God, Jesus.
• 2:00:40
  So loving your neighbor and loving God.
• 2:00:46
  That's what's all about. But see, like, that's another
• 2:00:53
  thing that I kind of want to talk to Brett about is he views
• 2:01:00
  atheists as like black and white is because I used to be an
• 2:01:05
  atheist and I still love my neighbor and I think he views
• 2:01:12
  atheists as just bad people. Who are some of them?
• 2:01:16
  Some of them from specific groups.
• 2:01:19
  I actually have a friend that I've been cool with for almost
• 2:01:22
  15 years now named Adam Lore. You've met him, right?
• 2:01:25
  Praise. Oh, Adam, Yeah, yeah, he's, I
• 2:01:28
  like him. He, he recently, just recently
• 2:01:33
  handed his soul over to Christ. But for the longest time he was
• 2:01:37
  an atheist. And you know, I showed him
• 2:01:38
  nothing but love. And then there's not the
• 2:01:41
  atheist, also known as the original raging atheist, got
• 2:01:44
  friends with him. I mean, he'll set me on fire
• 2:01:47
  whenever he's in one of those moods and all that.
• 2:01:50
  But we usually most of the time get along.
• 2:01:52
  So I got a lot of friends that are non believer.
• 2:01:55
  It's a specific group and it's usually like the DP side of.
• 2:02:00
  But as far as all atheists, the problem that I have whenever I'm
• 2:02:04
  dealing with non believers and I brought this up with Adam.
• 2:02:07
  If one doesn't believe in God and doesn't believe in objective
• 2:02:11
  morality, then where does one get the morality from?
• 2:02:14
  And the atheist is probably going to either argue, well, I
• 2:02:17
  got it from nature, I got it from society.
• 2:02:19
  Well, nature is an unconscious killer.
• 2:02:22
  It doesn't give a damn about our feelings.
• 2:02:24
  It's not going to send us Christmas cards.
• 2:02:27
  It doesn't care if we suffer and die, Am I right?
• 2:02:29
  Praise. That's right.
• 2:02:33
  That's. Right.
• 2:02:34
  And then when it comes to society, if the atheist declares
• 2:02:37
  that his morals come from society, well, which one?
• 2:02:39
  Nigeria, where they're still holding modern day slaves,
• 2:02:43
  Islam's morality where they think that they can kill someone
• 2:02:47
  just because they didn't have enough witnesses when they made.
• 2:02:50
  Well, I have a really simple question for you that sure.
• 2:02:53
  Sure, go ahead. Where did you get your morality
• 2:02:56
  from when you were an atheist? Well for me I had always known
• 2:03:00
  it, but even back then and had had philosophical discussions
• 2:03:04
  where I was honest with Christians as well as other non
• 2:03:07
  believers, I didn't believe that we actually had any objective
• 2:03:10
  morality, that we were set up in such a way or had a structure
• 2:03:14
  where we had given ourselves a subjective concept of what we
• 2:03:19
  see is good and bad. But the problem is, is that if
• 2:03:22
  you put a guy like me, whenever I was a former atheist in the
• 2:03:25
  same room with Stalin, how could I objectively tell him that what
• 2:03:29
  he was doing was wrong? When he was using turned his
• 2:03:33
  state into an atheist state and killed millions of people?
• 2:03:37
  How could I argue to him that he was objectively wrong for doing
• 2:03:40
  it? I realized that the atheist had
• 2:03:43
  a very, very tricky ass line to walk whenever it came to that
• 2:03:46
  stuff. OK.
• 2:03:54
  I was just curious. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:03:58
  I mean, if you think about it, where would have you got it
• 2:04:01
  from? If there is no God or no gods at
• 2:04:04
  all, not even Hercules, where would have you got your morality
• 2:04:07
  from? You would have had the state
• 2:04:09
  nature of society, right? I would think your parents would
• 2:04:13
  instill values in you. What if you got some mean ass
• 2:04:18
  parents who don't honor you and don't love you to kick you to
• 2:04:22
  the curb or throw you in a dumpster when you're an infant?
• 2:04:24
  Where do you get your morality? All then I would go ahead and
• 2:04:31
  say, you know, you are a product of society, whether it's good or
• 2:04:38
  bad, that would be where you get your values from and it really
• 2:04:43
  depends on how people treat you. I don't know, Warren.
• 2:04:47
  I don't know if you're a father or whatever the issue is or
• 2:04:51
  anything like that. I don't know if you've ever had
• 2:04:52
  children, but let's say you did have a kid and your kid comes to
• 2:04:56
  you and you say, look, I don't want you to go do this or that.
• 2:04:59
  And the kid says why? It's not wrong.
• 2:05:02
  How would you explain to them that what they're doing is
• 2:05:05
  objectively wrong? Because if you don't, the kids
• 2:05:07
  going to fight with everything they got in order to get their
• 2:05:10
  way and get what they want. I mean, it depends on what it
• 2:05:13
  was. Let's say that your your kid has
• 2:05:19
  met a girl and it turns out she's a prostitute.
• 2:05:23
  What would you say to him or her?
• 2:05:27
  I would say that you cannot see them.
• 2:05:31
  Why not? Says little Johnny.
• 2:05:35
  Because they are a prostitute and that is wrong.
• 2:05:40
  Why is it wrong to prostitute? If someone wants to sell their
• 2:05:43
  body, you could just call it a business.
• 2:05:45
  Why not? Because it is wrong to sell your
• 2:05:50
  body for money. It is immoral.
• 2:05:53
  It says who nature, Caterpillar and the leaf who prays?
• 2:06:00
  Yeah, it just becomes relative to to another person's opinion.
• 2:06:07
  That's the reason why the laws of America and the very founding
• 2:06:10
  of America was based upon the morality and concepts of God.
• 2:06:14
  We had an objective concept of what we could lay laws down and
• 2:06:18
  people, the majority, agreed with it.
• 2:06:21
  If you don't have any kind of morality, you're going to end up
• 2:06:23
  with an atheistic type of state and people end up getting
• 2:06:26
  smoked. Yeah, welcome to refute me if
• 2:06:36
  you got something. I hope that you have learned
• 2:06:48
  though that I don't hate, I don't hate atheist I I have an
• 2:06:52
  issue with some of their arguments in the way they view
• 2:06:55
  the world and how some of them have their lifestyle and all
• 2:06:58
  that. But I also look at some
• 2:07:00
  Christians out there with where I wish they would live a little
• 2:07:03
  better and take care of themselves as well.
• 2:07:05
  It's not a matter of hatred, it's concerned.
• 2:07:08
  Do I get ornery sometimes? Do I say some mean shit?
• 2:07:11
  Yes. I'm a flawed human being who
• 2:07:13
  sometimes unfortunately falls into the flesh, and I usually do
• 2:07:17
  public apologies when I act like a Jackass.
• 2:07:19
  Don't I Praise? No, like we all get in the
• 2:07:26
  flesh. Bread.
• 2:07:26
  Yeah, that's just part of why we need to save you in the 1st
• 2:07:29
  place is because we're just, we're flawed.
• 2:07:31
  And you're no more less flawed than I am, Bread or anyone else
• 2:07:35
  you know? So all we know is we need Jesus.
• 2:07:39
  That's the only thing we do know.
• 2:07:43
  Exactly. Warren, you got any more
• 2:07:46
  questions? We're here for you, guy.
• 2:07:49
  All righty. And praise.
• 2:07:51
  You got your hot coke already? I do.
• 2:08:01
  I got me some hot coffee over here and it is not good for the
• 2:08:04
  kidneys. I'll tell you what, hang out
• 2:08:06
  about blowing up my muffler. Do you mind if I share this?
• 2:08:12
  Are you going to put on your channel or how do you plan to do
• 2:08:15
  that? What do you want me to share?
• 2:08:18
  Well, Oren, you know, maybe looks, I mean, let me ask Oren,
• 2:08:22
  like do you believe on Jesus now or is is do you have faith in
• 2:08:30
  him? Like how?
• 2:08:30
  How would you express that Oren? I don't know man, I'd have to
• 2:08:42
  think on it. Yeah, unless you're sure.
• 2:08:49
  You do realize that praise ain't trying to get you to join some
• 2:08:52
  kind of Mormon club or something like that, or some kind of
• 2:08:55
  group. He's just trying to open your
• 2:08:57
  mind and your heart to the concept of God.
• 2:08:59
  That is, that you're not going to have to do some kind of weird
• 2:09:02
  ritual or anything like that, and it doesn't mean you have to
• 2:09:05
  stop watching DP. Call me a damn manatee.
• 2:09:08
  If that gives you some thrills and a laugh, go for it.
• 2:09:15
  Right. And have a Mac and cheese
• 2:09:18
  situation while you're at it. Yes.
• 2:09:27
  I will just say this too, like it's like a consensus view that
• 2:09:32
  Jesus existed as a historical figure.
• 2:09:35
  I think they even said there's more evidence for Jesus than all
• 2:09:38
  the historical figures put together during that time.
• 2:09:42
  But also it's indisputable that he was crucified in the cross.
• 2:09:46
  So what's that? What's left is historical
• 2:09:48
  evidence of he resurrected. If you go to my channel, I had
• 2:09:52
  AI interviewed a guy named Gary Habermas.
• 2:09:55
  He's one of the most prolific New Testament scholars.
• 2:09:59
  He did a sense or a survey of works that scholars have done
• 2:10:06
  and it's 7. It's what is it, 8?
• 2:10:08
  No 82% now have the historian scholars with a PhD degree or
• 2:10:15
  better that he resurrected historically.
• 2:10:20
  And we even have like the criteria of embarrassment,
• 2:10:23
  dissimilarity, and multiple attestation of why that
• 2:10:28
  historical resurrection was valid.
• 2:10:31
  So I mean, there's really 3 consensus views out there that
• 2:10:35
  Jesus existed, was crucified and resurrected.
• 2:10:42
  You know, I've always kind of, even when I was an atheist, I
• 2:10:49
  thought that Jesus was probably a actual person, just maybe not
• 2:10:55
  like a miracle worker like the rival said so.
• 2:11:02
  Yeah, man, that's that's, that's usually the predominant view of
• 2:11:08
  you just said of atheists, as you know.
• 2:11:09
  Well, Lee, I agree. He there was a guy named Jesus
• 2:11:12
  that existed, but he didn't do like special miracles or
• 2:11:15
  anything. And well, I mean, that seems to
• 2:11:18
  be changing too. I mean, scholars, if they're
• 2:11:21
  they're going more now to the historical resurrection that
• 2:11:24
  there was an empty tomb and the empty tomb was done by a miracle
• 2:11:29
  of resurrection. So that is a becoming now the
• 2:11:33
  predominant view, not so much in the 70s through all the way in
• 2:11:39
  the early 2000s. It was more like, well, yeah,
• 2:11:42
  there was an empty tomb, but we don't know what happened.
• 2:11:44
  We don't think it's supernatural, but now that's
• 2:11:47
  shifting war to being supernatural now.
• 2:11:51
  So yeah, man, I could, I could give you all the sources you
• 2:11:55
  want if you need that, if you're, if you need to be
• 2:11:59
  convinced, I think that's it's easy to be convinced that Jesus
• 2:12:03
  is who he said he was. Gotcha.
• 2:12:23
  Well, I just found out something surprising praise.
• 2:12:28
  An atheist that I used to be buddies with a long time ago has
• 2:12:32
  come back to YouTube and he's making videos and it sounds like
• 2:12:36
  he might be working his way towards our direction as well.
• 2:12:40
  I just faded up his video and left him a nice comment.
• 2:12:43
  Looks like he's doing all right. Unfortunately, I thought he had
• 2:12:46
  passed. Oh wow, yeah man, that's good
• 2:12:50
  news though if he's coming towards our view.
• 2:12:55
  Yeah, he's doing the whole wearing suits thing in his
• 2:12:58
  videos too. I couldn't do that.
• 2:13:00
  That's too hot, man. Have you been having bad heat
• 2:13:02
  where you're at there? Praise.
• 2:13:07
  Well, actually, you've had a cold out here.
• 2:13:09
  It's been more rainy. That's really weird.
• 2:13:11
  But usually it is kind of hot right now.
• 2:13:14
  Oh. Man, it's been nice here,
• 2:13:17
  finally. Well you guys are lucky man.
• 2:13:22
  It feels like I'm practicing for hell down here.
• 2:13:25
  It's been like that like for the longest time and it just now
• 2:13:31
  cooled off. That's good.
• 2:13:35
  That's real bad boy. I'm going to have to turn on the
• 2:13:40
  fan dude. Damn.
• 2:13:55
  That isn't too loud in the background, is it?
• 2:13:57
  Praise you. Hear that?
• 2:14:01
  I can kind of hear it. It's, it's a little bit, it's
• 2:14:04
  not like really annoying, just a little bit annoying.
• 2:14:06
  Yeah, it's not too bad. Wait, I need air too old praise.
• 2:14:21
  Have you had an opportunity to listen anymore?
• 2:14:23
  My evil noise. Here and there, but I want to
• 2:14:28
  get back but I used I used to be in your content every day.
• 2:14:32
  I loved it. I'm going to get back into that.
• 2:14:34
  I've just been distracted lately with this stupid garbage in the
• 2:14:38
  community here. Can I ask you something?
• 2:14:45
  Praise because I really don't understand this.
• 2:14:48
  Like I told you, I'm still a student learning myself, but
• 2:14:51
  when I was watching Smokey and Kevin they seemed like they were
• 2:14:54
  doing really, really awesome. At first it was just two
• 2:14:57
  brothers going back and forth and trying to figure things out,
• 2:15:01
  but towards the end it seemed like things started to get angry
• 2:15:03
  and irritating. I don't understand what?
• 2:15:06
  What the hell are they getting pissed off with each other
• 2:15:08
  about? You know, something like it just
• 2:15:12
  started to go downhill after the rebuttals when it started to get
• 2:15:17
  into the open discussion. Maybe Kevin wanted to like, I
• 2:15:24
  guess, you know, show off or something to make himself look
• 2:15:27
  better. That Smokey took offence to
• 2:15:30
  that. And then he did it back and it's
• 2:15:32
  like, and it just, it went downhill from there.
• 2:15:36
  Oh. Man, it's rough.
• 2:15:41
  I just don't get it. I don't either.
• 2:15:46
  I mean, technically though, whether someone believes the
• 2:15:49
  other side, like Heaven's side, you're going to be safe as long
• 2:15:52
  as you've accepted God. Your, your salvation's good all
• 2:15:56
  the way. The security's there all the
• 2:15:58
  way. And then on Smokey side, he
• 2:16:00
  believes that you should behave yourself and do nice things and
• 2:16:04
  he still believes he's saved. So I mean, either way, it's a
• 2:16:07
  win win, isn't it? Because either way, you're going
• 2:16:10
  to try to be a good guy or a good lady.
• 2:16:13
  Sure. Yeah, absolutely so.
• 2:16:14
  What's the problem? Yeah.
• 2:16:18
  Well, one, I think it's the, I guess the principle of it from
• 2:16:21
  Kevin's side that Smokey according to Kevin that he is
• 2:16:26
  adding works to salvation, he's adding to something that Jesus
• 2:16:30
  did his work, you know. So when it comes to salvation,
• 2:16:34
  that's a work only attributed to to God alone.
• 2:16:39
  But then, but you know, there's a work that we're supposed to do
• 2:16:42
  too. It's called sanctification.
• 2:16:45
  And we're we're moving. We're gonna like sanctification
• 2:16:48
  is a process of us moving or be becoming more like Jesus in our
• 2:16:53
  conduct, which is more love. That's what it amounts to.
• 2:16:56
  It's not really behavior modificationalism because that's
• 2:17:00
  not the gospel. It's just becoming more loving
• 2:17:03
  to others, more forbearance, more long-suffering, and that's
• 2:17:09
  basically what it what it amounts to.
• 2:17:15
  There you go. It's fair enough.
• 2:17:17
  Warren, you did say earlier that you had some kind of issue or
• 2:17:21
  confusion with the Trinity. What was that about?
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  Maybe praise can help you. Oh, just, you know, I had some
• 2:17:39
  issues. I'm very pro LGBTQ.
• 2:17:51
  I don't think that a loving God would create somebody knowing
• 2:17:56
  their past, present and future, premeditatively knowing that
• 2:18:07
  they would be gay and send them to hell for that.
• 2:18:15
  So that's why you've had irritation with God is because
• 2:18:19
  of homosexuality. That's a that's a pretty big
• 2:18:25
  reason I don't. That seems sadistic to me.
• 2:18:30
  Why would that seem sadistic? God is not a like a a person
• 2:18:35
  walking around on the earth with us that shares our concept or
• 2:18:39
  small perspectives of how things should work.
• 2:18:42
  You understand when you read the Old Testament.
• 2:18:45
  God wanted families. He wanted men and women to be
• 2:18:48
  able to have children and populate the earth and and be
• 2:18:51
  together in that type of union. It's not a matter of being mean
• 2:18:55
  or anything. It's a matter of that's that's
• 2:18:57
  how he wanted the design to work.
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  But this goes back to God being omnipresent.
• 2:19:02
  He knows the past, present and future and he knows everything.
• 2:19:06
  So he knows from like before he creates the person that they are
• 2:19:12
  going to be gay. So why even create that person?
• 2:19:17
  If all he wants is for people to create and have families, then
• 2:19:23
  why even have that family, that mother and father have that gay
• 2:19:29
  kid? If all he wants is for those
• 2:19:33
  people to create only other people, why are they?
• 2:19:41
  If he wants to give people free will, he wants to give people
• 2:19:44
  the ability to choose to love him and do as he wills, as
• 2:19:47
  opposed to puppets and all that. That's why he doesn't sit there
• 2:19:51
  and put that in people. I'll give you an example of
• 2:19:55
  something here, Oren. You have foreknowledge that most
• 2:19:59
  likely I'm going to get another stream within the week by Ben,
• 2:20:03
  right? You just know that's most likely
• 2:20:05
  going to happen. But you're not making him do it,
• 2:20:08
  right? He's just going to do it because
• 2:20:10
  that's how he is. You agree?
• 2:20:12
  You've got the knowledge, the foreknowledge that that's most
• 2:20:14
  likely going to happen. You understand the difference
• 2:20:16
  between knowing something and forcing something?
• 2:20:21
  OK. You, you understand what I'm
• 2:20:24
  getting at. I know for a fact that Praise is
• 2:20:27
  probably going to be an awesome guy for the rest of the week.
• 2:20:31
  I I predict that I have that foreknowledge of it, but he
• 2:20:35
  might choose to do something else the next week.
• 2:20:37
  Am I right? Praise.
• 2:20:41
  I wouldn't go that far. Well, you get my point right?
• 2:20:45
  There's a difference between foreknowledge and actually
• 2:20:48
  making someone or something do something.
• 2:20:53
  Right. So since we're talking about
• 2:20:55
  homosexuality, and most likely you'll end up bringing
• 2:20:58
  transgenders into the conversation as well, do you
• 2:21:02
  believe that people have a choice on what they can, how
• 2:21:05
  they can live their life? You can be attracted to
• 2:21:07
  something or someone, but you don't actually have to do the
• 2:21:10
  action, which that's where the the problem lies.
• 2:21:13
  It's not the attraction itself, it's the action and the outcome
• 2:21:18
  of it. Would you choose not to act on
• 2:21:25
  having sex with your partner? Well, I Make Love to my wife and
• 2:21:30
  all that, but to me I feel like it's morally right.
• 2:21:33
  But if a superior interdimensional being says,
• 2:21:36
  hey, this is the way I design things, this is the way I would
• 2:21:40
  prefer things to be, who am I as a little amp arguing with the
• 2:21:44
  iPhone on how it works? Why do you choose to Make Love
• 2:21:51
  to her? Well, choice, obviously I find
• 2:21:57
  her beautiful, I find her attractive and all that.
• 2:22:00
  And I understand you're going to say, well, some guys see this as
• 2:22:03
  that The problem is, is if you look do any research in
• 2:22:06
  psychology and all that, usually 90% of the times for the history
• 2:22:11
  that we know about, especially celebrity homosexuals, they were
• 2:22:15
  abused by their father or had some kind of psychological
• 2:22:19
  problems growing up. And that's the reason why they
• 2:22:21
  they do what they do. So the question is, is it really
• 2:22:23
  out of love or do they feel like they deserve to be abused?
• 2:22:29
  No, I would say it's out of love.
• 2:22:31
  Whenever you know, you just meet a person and you start dating a
• 2:22:39
  person, you're going to fall in love with them and you're going
• 2:22:44
  to be attracted to them and you're going to eventually want
• 2:22:49
  to Make Love to them, which is completely normal, much like I
• 2:22:54
  do with my wife, much like you do with your wife.
• 2:23:00
  Well, that's fair enough, but that still doesn't go against
• 2:23:02
  the idea of what the superior being wants.
• 2:23:06
  What what we want is subjective compared to a God who has
• 2:23:10
  created objective reality. Why?
• 2:23:13
  Why? Let's let's just put it this
• 2:23:15
  way, why should I go with what some random person on the
• 2:23:19
  Internet thinks over an all powerful God that made my wife,
• 2:23:24
  made me, and also gave me the ability to be able to have the
• 2:23:27
  beautiful children I do? Why would I take some random
• 2:23:30
  stranger I don't know, his opinion over how reality should
• 2:23:34
  work over God? You don't have to take anybody's
• 2:23:38
  opinion, but you don't your religion does not have the right
• 2:23:44
  to tell other people how to live their lives and.
• 2:23:51
  Oh, and you do realize, and I, and I hope you realize this back
• 2:23:55
  in your mind, that no matter what it is that you disagree
• 2:23:58
  with God on this doesn't disprove His existence or that
• 2:24:03
  He's there or that He's got the rules set up.
• 2:24:06
  Just because you don't like the way his perception is on
• 2:24:09
  homosexuality, that doesn't equal he's not real.
• 2:24:13
  It would be like me saying I don't like the fact that Stalin
• 2:24:16
  was an atheist and killed the entire civilization that he
• 2:24:19
  lived in. So therefore, logically, he
• 2:24:21
  wasn't real. He was just a fictional
• 2:24:23
  character in the comic book. You get what I'm saying?
• 2:24:26
  You understand I'm getting that praise.
• 2:24:31
  I think praise is pooping, right?
• 2:24:33
  Yeah, exactly. Like, well, if you have an
• 2:24:35
  emotional issue with God or a disagreement with God, that's
• 2:24:40
  that's not an argument against God is existence.
• 2:24:43
  It just becomes maybe a a bone to pick or something like that.
• 2:24:50
  One of the things I don't understand though, if it's
• 2:24:53
  really about love and it's really about caring, why do we
• 2:24:56
  see so many homosexuals transition back in the Strait?
• 2:25:01
  We see all these folks who end up going to church, they change
• 2:25:04
  their ways and then they go on getting married and having
• 2:25:07
  children. What about transgenders?
• 2:25:09
  I've seen thousands of cases, especially you use like social
• 2:25:13
  media. I see every single day with
• 2:25:15
  these social medias where some girl wishes she never got her
• 2:25:19
  breasts cut off. The hell?
• 2:25:21
  I got somebody I talked to on Facebook where they wish they
• 2:25:23
  didn't mutilate themselves when they were younger because now
• 2:25:26
  they can't have children, they can't do things.
• 2:25:29
  It's really it's about choice and it's an unnecessary one at
• 2:25:33
  that. Well, there are some people that
• 2:25:41
  choose wrong and there are, you know, that's a small percentage,
• 2:25:48
  but there are some people that choose wrong.
• 2:25:50
  And that's unfortunate. But overall, I would say that I
• 2:25:57
  have a friend who's transgender and he knew from a very young
• 2:26:04
  age that he was, he didn't transition until he was in his
• 2:26:11
  20s, but he would, you know, wear men's clothes and he would
• 2:26:17
  wear a, what do you call that? The strap thing that holds your
• 2:26:25
  like, boobs in place. So like, you don't?
• 2:26:28
  Over to shoulder boulder holders.
• 2:26:30
  That's what we call it, Missouri.
• 2:26:33
  Not a bra, but like the you know what I'm talking about, right?
• 2:26:40
  Right. And I've met people that have
• 2:26:42
  come on my show who claim that they're Dragons and animals and
• 2:26:46
  such like other can. I've met people who think that
• 2:26:48
  they reincarnated from a squirrel.
• 2:26:51
  I've met quite a few people who think they evolved from baboons.
• 2:26:54
  So I mean, you know, whatever you want to identify as, but it
• 2:26:57
  doesn't change reality, am I right?
• 2:26:59
  Praise. I'm just saying might.
• 2:27:04
  Be pooping again. I'm just saying like he's been
• 2:27:07
  very consistent with it his entire life.
• 2:27:10
  It's not been a. It's never.
• 2:27:16
  You explain to me what it feels like to be a little girl.
• 2:27:19
  I cannot. I've never been a little girl.
• 2:27:23
  So how am I supposed to know that the person actually felt
• 2:27:26
  that way? How do I know that the chemicals
• 2:27:28
  in their body just wasn't having some unusual reaction on their
• 2:27:32
  brain as they were developing? How do I know I'm not a doctor?
• 2:27:35
  You're not a psychiatrist? I don't think so.
• 2:27:37
  How do we know what was actually going on in his head?
• 2:27:41
  That's something you'd have to ask him.
• 2:27:45
  What about the medical issues, though?
• 2:27:47
  Have you ever thought of that, about the health risk and the
• 2:27:50
  health issues provided with all the viruses and diseases?
• 2:27:54
  And you know that if you have butt sex with another man,
• 2:27:57
  you're going to cause them to have prostate cancer.
• 2:27:59
  You're going to tear out their insides.
• 2:28:01
  That's going to kill them. So that's that can't really be a
• 2:28:04
  concept of love, right? What do you think?
• 2:28:07
  Praise. Am I, am I wrong here?
• 2:28:08
  Am I over the line? No, you're, you're right about
• 2:28:13
  that. Yeah.
• 2:28:17
  Yeah, I. I don't mean to be so damn
• 2:28:21
  descriptive and turn this place into Pornhub, but that's
• 2:28:24
  basically what's happening, right?
• 2:28:26
  You're plunging out another man's ass.
• 2:28:27
  You're going to kill him. You're going to tear somebody
• 2:28:30
  up. They won't be able to go to the
• 2:28:31
  bathroom when they get older. Right, yeah, there's these
• 2:28:36
  colostomy bags that they end up getting and stuff where they
• 2:28:39
  can't even poop in a toilet. Right.
• 2:28:42
  You know your ass has AG spot right?
• 2:28:46
  I've heard yeah why why is there AG spot in a sewer for I I hear
• 2:28:51
  you, but just because there might be a fun place to hang out
• 2:28:54
  to get a rat on your cheese. I'm terribly.
• 2:29:07
  A fun place, yeah. I'm just saying if things
• 2:29:10
  weren't supposed to go up there, it wouldn't be up there.
• 2:29:14
  But you do you at least agree. I mean, on a psychological
• 2:29:17
  level, especially with young people, it's not until they're
• 2:29:21
  about 17 or 18 where the brain is almost fully developed,
• 2:29:25
  especially when it comes to hormones and all this.
• 2:29:28
  Can we at least let people become adults and then make the
• 2:29:31
  choice that they want to mutilate themselves, as opposed
• 2:29:34
  to some kid who thinks playing with Barbie dolls might have a
• 2:29:37
  problem and we need to pull out the scissors right away?
• 2:29:40
  I mean, can we at least agree on that?
• 2:29:44
  I mean, I don't see an issue with that.
• 2:29:46
  Like I think you can socially transition when you're younger
• 2:29:50
  and just, you know, like dress up and if you know you want to
• 2:29:57
  so like do hormones and stuff later when you're an adult, then
• 2:30:02
  go ahead and do that. But they've all they've already
• 2:30:07
  discovered I'm sure you've seen because you're on ex social
• 2:30:10
  medias along with me. They pointed out how these
• 2:30:13
  hormone things completely destroy these people.
• 2:30:16
  It causes them anger problems and really gets their emotions
• 2:30:20
  stirred up. It's one of the reasons why we
• 2:30:22
  keep seeing all these videos of them punching people in the
• 2:30:24
  face, throwing shit on folks. What?
• 2:30:27
  You misgendered me? Son of a bitch.
• 2:30:30
  And then they go absolutely crazy.
• 2:30:32
  Are you talking about Chris Ann, who's just unhinged already?
• 2:30:36
  Well, I'm talking about a lot of different things here.
• 2:30:40
  Hold on, let me see if I got this clip that's on my last
• 2:30:44
  show. I must have removed it from this
• 2:30:46
  because I'd already played it twice, but I basically played
• 2:30:49
  like a clause of videos of transgenders just totally losing
• 2:30:53
  their shit, talking about killing kids and wasting people
• 2:30:57
  and all that kind of stuff. It's it's pretty rough.
• 2:30:59
  A guy said, well, transgender said, if people try to stop me
• 2:31:04
  from going to a woman's bathroom, I'll do this and that
• 2:31:07
  for them. I'm not going to go into graphic
• 2:31:08
  detail about what he said, but it's pretty damn vicious.
• 2:31:11
  Somebody wouldn't want in the bathroom with your little
• 2:31:13
  daughter. That's probably Lily Tino, and
• 2:31:19
  she's fucking crazy. Right.
• 2:31:23
  And that's what we have to contend with in society.
• 2:31:25
  We don't. Know like even trans people
• 2:31:27
  think she's crazy. Well, sure, sure, and I got AI
• 2:31:32
  got a person that I used to hang out all the time on shows with.
• 2:31:35
  Have you ever heard of Nadia Chambers praise?
• 2:31:38
  Yes. Oh, you're asking him?
• 2:31:41
  Yeah, Nadia used to hang out with me all the time, and Nadia
• 2:31:43
  was having a lot of income issues and all that.
• 2:31:46
  I helped Nadia with some bills and all that.
• 2:31:48
  Not check this out. This is a long string of words
• 2:31:51
  that they identified as they were a transgender.
• 2:31:54
  Other kin also believe they were part animal.
• 2:31:57
  They also believe they were a communist socialist.
• 2:32:01
  I think that they believe they called themselves a Stalinite.
• 2:32:05
  You ever heard of all that? It's a mouthful, but they seem
• 2:32:12
  to be nice. Yeah.
• 2:32:20
  When you're, when you no praise, when you're getting ready to go
• 2:32:22
  to the bathroom and it's #2 you, you just don't want to run into
• 2:32:27
  the bathroom and see somebody sitting in there with jockstrap
• 2:32:30
  and everything looking at you funny, right?
• 2:32:33
  Wrong there. Privacy.
• 2:32:36
  Though Yeah, I agree absolutely. Why are you looking at their jog
• 2:32:41
  strap? Well, sometimes when you go in
• 2:32:44
  the bathroom you can run into folks who are doing some unusual
• 2:32:48
  stuff. It's the way it is.
• 2:32:49
  Hell, my wife at one of the businesses she used to work at a
• 2:32:53
  while back, they had to end up actually locking the damn
• 2:32:56
  bathroom door because for some reason some asshole thought he
• 2:32:59
  was an artist and decided to dig into his butt and paint drawings
• 2:33:04
  on the wall. You got to lock the door.
• 2:33:06
  You don't know what kind of animal's going to get in there.
• 2:33:08
  You ever heard of that kind of shit there?
• 2:33:10
  Praise. That's why people don't like
• 2:33:11
  public restrooms. Yeah, who knows?
• 2:33:14
  Yeah. There's so much that goes on in
• 2:33:16
  these public restrooms, man. It's it's a dangerous place
• 2:33:19
  sometimes. You're right.
• 2:33:21
  Brother, I was a janitor for college.
• 2:33:27
  I've seen it literally. That's rough.
• 2:33:32
  You know, one of my favorite singers in the whole wide world.
• 2:33:35
  I I don't know if you guys know the name Fred Mercury.
• 2:33:38
  You remember him? Praise.
• 2:33:40
  I do. The singer of Queen.
• 2:33:42
  Yep. One, but I would say probably
• 2:33:45
  one of the most excellent singers of all times.
• 2:33:49
  He decided later on his life he was going to start participate
• 2:33:52
  in homosexuality. What happened to him?
• 2:33:55
  What happened? And.
• 2:33:59
  Yes. And he, he, he could have made
• 2:34:03
  10 more albums. I could have been rocking out to
• 2:34:06
  him right now as we speak now. I got to go back to the 70s and
• 2:34:10
  80s to hear anything he's ever done because of that.
• 2:34:13
  Right. Well, besides homosexuality, is
• 2:34:22
  there any other things on your shit list you want to talk
• 2:34:25
  about? Oh, what else?
• 2:34:34
  I don't think praise or myself has any kind of thing where
• 2:34:38
  we're saying I'll be mean to homosexuals or anything.
• 2:34:41
  If one comes in, we'll be like, hey, what's up, Want to talk
• 2:34:44
  about Jesus? And that's how we'll do it.
• 2:34:46
  We're not mean people, but go ahead.
• 2:34:49
  Right. Absolutely.
• 2:34:51
  Oh, I probably can't think of anything else so.
• 2:34:56
  That's all you could think about was just homosexuality and the
• 2:34:59
  Trinity. Trinity, huh?
• 2:35:00
  Oh my goodness. This is not off the top of my
• 2:35:05
  head anyway. I probably have more.
• 2:35:08
  So what's your hobbies? What do you like to do for fun
• 2:35:11
  and all that? And don't bring up the G spot.
• 2:35:13
  We're not that nice at Kristen's.
• 2:35:17
  Oh, no, I'm good. No, I like to watch a lot of
• 2:35:24
  YouTube. That's fun.
• 2:35:26
  I like to play some video games. We're carrying games into.
• 2:35:31
  That's the way to end the show is get into World of Warcraft.
• 2:35:35
  I like, oh, what am I playing right now?
• 2:35:41
  I play on my PlayStation. Let me go to my home.
• 2:35:47
  Can't just tell you right off the top of my head.
• 2:35:49
  I play a lot of life that's fun. Samurai Warriors Empires 4,
• 2:35:56
  that's my game. You're into like civilization
• 2:35:59
  games and strategy. Yeah.
• 2:36:02
  You know, a game you might really like that's got a little
• 2:36:05
  of everything in it is Starfield.
• 2:36:08
  There's a lot of people on YouTube bitching about it, but
• 2:36:10
  it's got settlement buildings and set up and you can have
• 2:36:15
  little people come in and live there and work on your space
• 2:36:17
  stuff. It's pretty cool.
• 2:36:20
  OK. If you want to get a look at it,
• 2:36:24
  I got some gameplay videos of it.
• 2:36:26
  It is a really, really cool game and I think it's on sale right
• 2:36:29
  now. Praise, you ought to get it as
• 2:36:30
  well. Good stuff.
• 2:36:32
  You ever wanted to make your own ship and fly out in the universe
• 2:36:36
  and poop on aliens? That's the game for you.
• 2:36:40
  It sounds fun man. Kind of dumb.
• 2:36:44
  Oh, and it's very How do I put this?
• 2:36:47
  I, I remember when it first started to come out, before it
• 2:36:50
  was released, there was rumors going around that it was a very
• 2:36:53
  atheistic type of game. It isn't.
• 2:36:56
  There's a faction of like futuristic atheist, but there's
• 2:37:00
  also a faction of the people who believe in God and talk about
• 2:37:04
  you can actually walk into a building and hear some people
• 2:37:07
  talking like philosophy in this video game, real voices, all
• 2:37:12
  that and the characters are moving around all animated.
• 2:37:15
  It's bad ass dude. Oh wow.
• 2:37:22
  It's neat, very neat. Yeah.
• 2:37:25
  I like Bethesda games. I like survival, open world
• 2:37:28
  where you get to explore and do things like that.
• 2:37:31
  I used to when I was a kid. I used to be in retro and
• 2:37:34
  Nintendo type of games. Anything else you into?
• 2:37:37
  Men? Any more hobbies?
• 2:37:42
  I like to write on and off here and there.
• 2:37:52
  Have you tried getting published or self-publishing?
• 2:37:58
  No, not yet. I'm working on something that
• 2:38:06
  haven't even finished the 1st chapter yet, so.
• 2:38:12
  As you probably have heard, I put some stuff together a long
• 2:38:15
  time ago when I was a kid. I put together a trilogy, didn't
• 2:38:19
  even think it was worth it. But my wife kept on bothering me
• 2:38:22
  to put something out. And then later on in life about
• 2:38:25
  I'd say two years ago, I got some inspiration, decided to
• 2:38:28
  write a book called Afterlife Simulation.
• 2:38:31
  I was pretty pleased with it. I was able to vent out a lot of
• 2:38:33
  philosophy and ideas into it. OK, that's cool.
• 2:38:39
  And get yourself, if you write you something and you're happy
• 2:38:43
  with it, go ahead, throw it up on like Amazon or something.
• 2:38:46
  See if people enjoy it. Yeah, I might do that.
• 2:38:53
  What kind of stuff you write about?
• 2:38:56
  It's fiction, fantasy stuff. That's cool, that's cool.
• 2:39:04
  Yeah. Sword fights and magic and all
• 2:39:15
  that good stuff. Oh, you're into stuff like Magic
• 2:39:19
  the Gathering? Oh no, not like Magic the
• 2:39:22
  Gathering. Like I'm talking about my book
• 2:39:26
  like. Oh, Oh yeah.
• 2:39:29
  Like if you listen to enough rumors on the Internet, people
• 2:39:32
  will tell you praise. I am over.
• 2:39:34
  There's a necromancer, Am I right?
• 2:39:35
  Praise. It's a joke.
• 2:39:41
  We were talking about something goofy.
• 2:39:42
  Another room. I thought he'd laugh at that.
• 2:39:45
  You're never. Answer.
• 2:39:48
  Yeah. Oh, So what inspired you?
• 2:39:52
  He's not actually like that. I'm just goofing with the rumors
• 2:39:55
  that go around the Internet. But what got you into that?
• 2:39:58
  What influence you start writing stuff like that?
• 2:40:01
  Oh man, like I've tried writing since I was a kid, like 1415.
• 2:40:12
  I've always been a writer. That's cool man, you should
• 2:40:20
  definitely put something together.
• 2:40:22
  Get serious with it, you know, Get out your ideas and thoughts,
• 2:40:26
  make it happen. Oh boy.
• 2:40:35
  I don't understand why get dude didn't come in.
• 2:40:38
  He leaves a comment and runs off.
• 2:40:39
  He did a drive by on his praise. I know I was thinking he was
• 2:40:45
  coming in too. Must have been.
• 2:40:46
  Busy what about you praise when you're now they're trying to
• 2:40:50
  bring people to Jesus and all that.
• 2:40:52
  What's the hobbies? Golf.
• 2:40:59
  I like games. Like computer.
• 2:41:01
  Like you bro. I like computer games.
• 2:41:05
  PS-5 games. Yeah, just Bible study, getting
• 2:41:13
  reading books and learning things.
• 2:41:15
  I love that. How do you feel about blogging?
• 2:41:21
  I want to do I want to try to get into that because I'd like
• 2:41:23
  to do some web pages and try to put some information out there.
• 2:41:27
  But I've I've I was something I want to do though well.
• 2:41:33
  I'll tell you what man, have you seen my website yet?
• 2:41:38
  I might have in passing, but I probably forgot.
• 2:41:42
  Well, I'll get you the link to it.
• 2:41:45
  Why I'm offering you this is I. It's kind of like a Blogger
• 2:41:49
  where people can post stuff and articles and everything like
• 2:41:52
  that. If you want to be able to have
• 2:41:54
  your thing on something real fancy looking and awesome where
• 2:41:57
  it'll stick, that's the place to do it.
• 2:42:00
  If you want the link, I can get it for you.
• 2:42:02
  If you'd prefer doing it somewhere else, I understand.
• 2:42:05
  I'll take no offense. Do you want it?
• 2:42:07
  Yeah. All right, hold on a second.
• 2:42:11
  I could actually set it up to where you could.
• 2:42:13
  You could create articles in your e-mail and then actually
• 2:42:17
  send it and it'll become an article on the website if you
• 2:42:20
  want. Wow, that'd be that'd be
• 2:42:23
  awesome. All right, I'm just, I'm still
• 2:42:26
  working on the the look of this, but here you go.
• 2:42:30
  This is what it looks like. I put it out in the main
• 2:42:34
  comments. Do you see it?
• 2:42:36
  I do, I just clicked on it. Oh that's so cool on.
• 2:42:39
  TV, radio. Yeah, yeah, I'm going to be
• 2:42:45
  changing the domain name to something a little bit shorter
• 2:42:48
  and a little bit more stand out. Right now it's using the, what's
• 2:42:52
  it called, the template of a Blogger.
• 2:42:55
  So there you go. You like that?
• 2:42:57
  Looks nice though, right? So if you post an article, every
• 2:43:00
  time you e-mail an article into this, it'll post it up for you
• 2:43:05
  and all that. OK, awesome.
• 2:43:11
  So what do you say we try this? Write something down in the
• 2:43:15
  notepad or whatever. We'll just that.
• 2:43:18
  We'll see how it goes for you. Write, write like a argument out
• 2:43:22
  that you have or something that you've never heard anybody else
• 2:43:25
  use. Send it to me and I'll format it
• 2:43:28
  and all that and fix any kind of grammar or spelling and I'll
• 2:43:31
  post it up for you and put praise.
• 2:43:33
  I am along with your YouTube channel.
• 2:43:35
  Send me a video that you'd like to go along with the two and
• 2:43:38
  I'll post that up on the website.
• 2:43:40
  Get you some views on that. Yeah, that would be cool.
• 2:43:44
  Yeah, Let me see what I can find here.
• 2:43:48
  You know my e-mail? sexybeast.com?
• 2:43:52
  Yeah, I'm just kidding. Brett King.
• 2:43:57
  Sweet. Yeah, I would have thought for
• 2:44:05
  sure you would have had something already set up,
• 2:44:07
  praise, you come up with some really, really good arguments,
• 2:44:10
  and it'd be a damn shame if you got ran over by a banana truck
• 2:44:13
  one day and all those ideas disappeared, you know?
• 2:44:17
  Yeah, exactly. Then they there's they don't go
• 2:44:19
  to use. Yeah, it's a good point.
• 2:44:26
  Yeah, Praise, if you ever hear get out of the way, I'm just
• 2:44:36
  goofing on the guy. Yeah.
• 2:44:47
  So you were earlier or and you had said that why not one of
• 2:44:51
  these other religions or concepts of God?
• 2:44:53
  This is one of the main reasons why me and me and praise don't
• 2:44:58
  do the Islam thing. I I think just these short few
• 2:45:01
  things right here give people idea why we don't want nothing
• 2:45:04
  to do with that. Can you guys see it?
• 2:45:07
  Yeah. There you go.
• 2:45:15
  All right. Any more hobbies, gentlemen?
• 2:45:20
  Any other things? Or do you got some articles that
• 2:45:22
  you've already written, you just haven't happened to not post
• 2:45:26
  them yet? Their praise.
• 2:45:30
  Yeah, I got a lot of stuff that I I could put into an article
• 2:45:33
  for sure. You ever use Grok before?
• 2:45:39
  Yes, I have used Grok and it's pretty decent.
• 2:45:42
  I like it. So make up, bring up one of your
• 2:45:47
  arguments, write a couple paragraphs, and then ask Grok to
• 2:45:51
  kind of formalize it, make it look a little bit more
• 2:45:53
  professional and it'll help you out if you're interested in
• 2:45:57
  that. Hold on, my wife's behind me.
• 2:45:58
  What's up, baby? Graham Green guy who GRAH AM
• 2:46:04
  Green. Greene, Graham Green.
• 2:46:06
  Who's that? He looks in a native Indian,
• 2:46:10
  active. I'll have to look it up, baby.
• 2:46:13
  Where's my kiss? What happened, Face.
• 2:46:18
  Oh, you don't like me, huh? I won't argue with you.
• 2:46:21
  I'm not. Oh, goodness gracious.
• 2:46:23
  I love you. All right, back to it.
• 2:46:27
  Sorry about that. I'll.
• 2:46:30
  Know, man, Yeah. Looking for love in all the
• 2:46:35
  wrong place. Oh, goodness, that New Avengers
• 2:46:44
  is coming out soon. I can't wait for me and my boy.
• 2:46:46
  We're going to be watching that. You looking forward to the New
• 2:46:49
  Avengers guys? Doctor Doom?
• 2:46:57
  Oh yeah, I didn't look. Into that I didn't even know
• 2:46:59
  that. Oh yeah, the what's his name?
• 2:47:03
  Robert Downey Junior. Yeah, Robert Downey Junior is
• 2:47:05
  supposed to be Doctor Dim. That's right.
• 2:47:09
  That's right. He was killed as Iron Man
• 2:47:11
  Praise. But he's coming back as a
• 2:47:12
  villain as Doctor Doom. Isn't that sick?
• 2:47:15
  He's going to do pretty good. Oh, nice.
• 2:47:25
  No more purple dinosaur villain 01 other thing too.
• 2:47:33
  I don't know if you guys are fans of this, but I was looking
• 2:47:36
  at some of the different movie sites and all that and
• 2:47:39
  apparently they're going to be doing a new.
• 2:47:42
  Lord of the Rings. And not not that stupid shit
• 2:47:45
  that they had on Amazon, but it like what they did before you
• 2:47:49
  know it, it's going to have a lot of the same characters in
• 2:47:52
  it. So that's really cool.
• 2:47:55
  OK. You guys tired or something?
• 2:48:02
  You're not really coming up with any topics to throwback at me.
• 2:48:04
  I'm used to people yelling at me constantly.
• 2:48:11
  I got none. Yeah.
• 2:48:15
  I mean, we had a good discussion on slavery earlier.
• 2:48:19
  I think we got into that. I mean, got into the contingency
• 2:48:27
  argument. Morals.
• 2:48:37
  Dang, that pretty much covers the gamut for me.
• 2:48:43
  I hear you there. Yeah, praise.
• 2:48:46
  What's your handle on Twitter? I'll follow you.
• 2:48:53
  I don't, well, I don't Twitter. I really don't go on Twitter too
• 2:48:57
  much. I just go on YouTube Rumble.
• 2:49:01
  YouTube. It's official.
• 2:49:05
  Praise. I am make sure.
• 2:49:07
  Yeah, I'm sorry. Praise.
• 2:49:09
  I am official. Crazy.
• 2:49:11
  I'll tell you what, you really need to use that social media.
• 2:49:14
  A lot of the major Christians out there that like got almost a
• 2:49:17
  million subscribers, like David Wood, William Lane Craig and
• 2:49:21
  some of the greats, they use that social media and boy, oh
• 2:49:24
  boy, they do really, really good for themselves.
• 2:49:28
  You can post your videos and get to you 100 views in five seconds
• 2:49:32
  if you use that site. Yeah, man, I might do that.
• 2:49:38
  I know it's uglier than and dog crap over there, but it it
• 2:49:42
  really is a very effective place to communicate with people.
• 2:49:48
  I really enjoy the ability to go over to TJ Kirk's channel and
• 2:49:52
  drop a banana picture over there and tell him I'm still thinking
• 2:49:56
  about him. Can't do that on YouTube.
• 2:50:02
  Yeah. All right, I think I found it.
• 2:50:11
  Yeah, it's like 5000 or some 6000 followers.
• 2:50:15
  Yeah, OK.
• 2:50:38
  Sweet I. Didn't realize I was just close
• 2:50:42
  to the camera with my mouth gaping open.
• 2:50:44
  That was cool. Yeah, it'll do it
• 2:50:59
  well. Praise.
• 2:50:59
  You never asked me anything. I'm always a guy asking
• 2:51:02
  everybody else something. You got anything for me?
• 2:51:06
  Let me stage. What do you think?
• 2:51:12
  One of the debates tonight? I'm just curious.
• 2:51:15
  Well, problem is, it was both brothers in Christ.
• 2:51:19
  I was rooting for both of them. Good point.
• 2:51:29
  Anything else? Let's see, I'm going to try to
• 2:51:37
  dig in. You think that the the world's
• 2:51:46
  going to end soon? If it keeps going like it is,
• 2:51:50
  yeah, it's definitely going to end for the Europeans and some
• 2:51:57
  of those other countries over there with all the importing
• 2:52:00
  that they're doing and IA lot of people out there misinterpret me
• 2:52:04
  on that. That's definitely a topic.
• 2:52:06
  I don't mind people coming and living in our country and all
• 2:52:09
  this as long as they're wanting to contribute and assimilate.
• 2:52:13
  But I don't think that the Muslims who are over here
• 2:52:15
  building Moss down in Texas who were talking about killing
• 2:52:18
  people who are really interested in assimilating, you know,
• 2:52:22
  wanting surreal law and such. Yeah, there you go.
• 2:52:28
  That's a topic. What do you guys feel about I?
• 2:52:30
  I personally have no issue with immigration but I have problems
• 2:52:35
  with criminals being dropped off and people out of mental
• 2:52:38
  institutes into our country. I guess that's not an exciting
• 2:52:47
  topic for people. I guess we'll move on.
• 2:52:49
  Next question. Praise.
• 2:52:50
  I tried, yeah. Oh, letting and illegal Mexicans
• 2:52:55
  in the in the country. No, I'm not just talking about
• 2:52:59
  Mexicans. I'm talking about people from
• 2:53:01
  all over the world. We had some Somalians that were
• 2:53:05
  in some of the states who were, I guess they were hungry or
• 2:53:08
  something, started eating people's cats and all that kind
• 2:53:10
  of stuff. My wife won't have it.
• 2:53:12
  She's got 20 of them. She's not going to let somebody
• 2:53:14
  eat her damn cat. Did you hear about that on the
• 2:53:19
  news here? Praise.
• 2:53:20
  I have no idea, but I know, I know.
• 2:53:22
  Donald Trump was after some Somalians in Colorado, I think.
• 2:53:29
  Well, we had a lot of gang, obviously Latino gang members
• 2:53:33
  and all that kind of stuff, but we've also, because they opened
• 2:53:37
  the border, it allowed the cartel to get in and some of
• 2:53:40
  these mafia types from these different countries and all
• 2:53:43
  that. It's been real bad.
• 2:53:44
  And of course, human traffickers had access to our children at
• 2:53:48
  this point. So yeah, that that bothered me.
• 2:53:51
  But if some like mom and her kids move over here and they
• 2:53:54
  trying to get a job and get their life together, hell yeah.
• 2:53:58
  I root for them, but not the not the scum of the universe.
• 2:54:05
  Any more questions? I don't want to step on
• 2:54:08
  anybody's toes out there, but that's I hope that people
• 2:54:11
  understand that I do make a differentiation between what
• 2:54:15
  types of people I don't want here.
• 2:54:17
  Right. I'm with you at that.
• 2:54:20
  Yeah. What do you think about Trump?
• 2:54:27
  Is he doing a good job? I thought so at first.
• 2:54:31
  Obviously. I was wondering people listening
• 2:54:34
  the rallies and Oh yeah, by the way, TJ Kirk owes me $10,000.
• 2:54:39
  He said that Trump wouldn't win. He won twice.
• 2:54:42
  Actually. That'd be $20,000 if my math is
• 2:54:44
  correct. He never gave me my damn money
• 2:54:47
  for that, but I thought he was doing good.
• 2:54:50
  I thought that all of his plans and politics were a good idea on
• 2:54:54
  what he was getting at. It was definitely better than
• 2:54:56
  comatose dementia. Yeah, riddled Joe Biden for
• 2:54:59
  sure. But when that damn Epstein thing
• 2:55:03
  come up and he says I was all a hoax, nothing to look at,
• 2:55:07
  nothing to bother with, that immediately pissed me off.
• 2:55:10
  I was like, not with all those survivors who've been killed or
• 2:55:15
  they died and all that. You don't just ignore something
• 2:55:18
  like that. I want some justice.
• 2:55:20
  So yeah, I'm a little pissed off at him right now.
• 2:55:24
  Yeah, I'm good with the tariffs. So I think that that's fine.
• 2:55:28
  I think that we should have fair trade between other countries
• 2:55:31
  and make a little bit of cheese. But as far as that, I do like
• 2:55:35
  cheap gasoline, too. I like to go places.
• 2:55:43
  Takes about 30 bucks to fill up my car.
• 2:55:47
  Woof, that's right. Oh, you see, Kevin?
• 2:55:53
  What's up, Kevin? Kevin, you're gonna, he's just
• 2:55:58
  gonna come over and say goodnight.
• 2:55:59
  Oh, come on, man. Well, he needs to get some
• 2:56:04
  sleep. He's been sick.
• 2:56:06
  Yeah, see, I told her, but I said Kevin's going to show up.
• 2:56:13
  Everybody was like, no, he's he's sick.
• 2:56:16
  He ain't going to be able to make it.
• 2:56:17
  I was like, dude, that dude will resurrect if he has to in order
• 2:56:21
  to get into a debate. What are you talking about,
• 2:56:29
  Kevin? I hope we can have a discussion
• 2:56:31
  one of these times. I do enjoy looking at your
• 2:56:33
  videos and from time to time I do like them up.
• 2:56:36
  So I don't think of me as some kind of rooty poo candy ass.
• 2:56:39
  Actually hang out with me sometime.
• 2:56:44
  See, that's what I get for watching too much WWE wrestling.
• 2:56:49
  Yeah. What about you?
• 2:56:51
  What do you think about wrestling?
• 2:56:53
  You ever watched WWE? Ever.
• 2:56:57
  I do. I think it's very entertaining.
• 2:57:00
  I I like some of the the gimmicks they have and stuff.
• 2:57:04
  It's pretty funny. A lot of my favorite wrestlers
• 2:57:08
  are gone now, unfortunately. I used to like hardcore Holly.
• 2:57:12
  I like Mick Foley and also as his character persona Mankind.
• 2:57:18
  I definitely dug the Undertaker. I don't really like the American
• 2:57:21
  Badass very much character. I do like his Undertaker though.
• 2:57:28
  Yeah, it was cool when the. Hulk the Hulkster died.
• 2:57:36
  Yeah, there's some investigations going on.
• 2:57:39
  Originally everybody thought he just had a heart attack, but it
• 2:57:42
  turns out he had some kind of medical issue they should have
• 2:57:44
  known about. And there you go.
• 2:57:48
  Oh wow, do you think he was the best wrestler of all time?
• 2:57:58
  No, Hulk Hogan wouldn't work the shit as a wrestler, but he was a
• 2:58:01
  performer. He was an entertainer, but as
• 2:58:04
  far as knowing all kinds of moves and being strategic, he
• 2:58:07
  wasn't. Yeah, he was just good on the
• 2:58:11
  mic. No.
• 2:58:13
  Hey, brother. He's kind of like Macho Man
• 2:58:17
  Randy Savage, just mostly he's got to do in the character
• 2:58:21
  gimmick. Yeah, I think he's definitely
• 2:58:29
  not my favorite of all time. Well, I liked him and I thought
• 2:58:34
  he was cool back in the day, especially when he was wearing a
• 2:58:37
  banana underwear and screaming. But I just, I didn't see him as
• 2:58:41
  a technical type of wrestler. Right.
• 2:58:47
  Who would you say was one of your one of the best at like
• 2:58:51
  technique and stuff? I would probably go nowadays.
• 2:58:58
  I'd go with Gunther. He's really the only tactical
• 2:59:01
  wrestler they have now because Eddie Guru died.
• 2:59:04
  He was something else. Rey Mysterio.
• 2:59:07
  He's very athletic and I can do some really crazy aerials yet,
• 2:59:12
  But to be honest with you, I can't watch the aerial combat
• 2:59:16
  anymore in wrestling. When I see these guys jumping
• 2:59:19
  off the top rope off into a table, I keep thinking, damn, I
• 2:59:22
  know it's it's predestined the shows, but these guys could
• 2:59:26
  really break your neck. I've actually seen wrestlers
• 2:59:29
  hurt themselves majorly and be put out of business for months
• 2:59:33
  or two a year. But I don't like it when they
• 2:59:36
  take those kind of risks. Oh yeah.
• 2:59:40
  Is me anxiety, man, you're Did you get to see the Hell in the
• 2:59:44
  Cell match with Mick Foley and the Undertaker tosses his ass
• 2:59:47
  off the top of the cage? I was like, no.
• 2:59:50
  Oh man. Wow.
• 2:59:54
  You got to understand I I love Mick Foley and I've seen a lot
• 2:59:56
  of videos with Tim and his wife and kids and I'm.
• 3:00:00
  And I know Mick Foley's trying to convince Vince McMahon to let
• 3:00:03
  him do that shit, but it's like, Mick, you don't have to do that
• 3:00:06
  kind of stuff. See, he knows that he's not a
• 3:00:08
  great wrestler, so he thinks that he has to go over the top
• 3:00:12
  and let people kick the shit out of him in the ring in order for
• 3:00:15
  him to get over. It's like, man, I don't want to
• 3:00:17
  see you get your neck broke there fella.
• 3:00:21
  No. What do you think about that guy
• 3:00:27
  who killed his wife and children?
• 3:00:29
  Chris Benoit. I think that he was a, he was an
• 3:00:34
  extremely extraordinary good person and good wrestler, but
• 3:00:38
  unfortunately he started taking drugs in order to pump up his
• 3:00:41
  body and his muscles and he got in major painkillers because he
• 3:00:45
  was having injuries and all that.
• 3:00:47
  He should have taken a rest and got away from wrestling for a
• 3:00:50
  while and straightened his ass out.
• 3:00:53
  They, they basically pushed him to the limit and he he started
• 3:00:57
  abusing drugs and then he started tripping out and that's
• 3:00:59
  what happened. So I feel for the family,
• 3:01:02
  obviously, but that's how it went down.
• 3:01:07
  Wow. Man that's crazy.
• 3:01:11
  Anybody that ever did an interview about him they all say
• 3:01:14
  that he was a great guy. Unless you're fucking lying.
• 3:01:18
  The Ultimate Warrior. Apparently he was a Jack off.
• 3:01:21
  Goodness, you ever hear the documentary on him?
• 3:01:26
  I did, yeah. They said he was a total
• 3:01:28
  asshole. And he said that he liked to
• 3:01:32
  stiff people and he wouldn't sell the moves.
• 3:01:35
  When you're wrestling and somebody goes to pretend to hit
• 3:01:38
  you, you're supposed to really like let it look like it's
• 3:01:41
  laying into you and it's doing damage.
• 3:01:43
  But he just stand there and go do the Tarzan bullshit.
• 3:01:46
  And that pissed a lot of people off.
• 3:01:50
  Huh. I know way too much about
• 3:01:52
  wrestling. Anything else you guys want to
• 3:01:55
  talk about? I'm thinking here.
• 3:02:03
  Yeah, same. Yeah.
• 3:02:10
  Well, if you guys need sleep, I could shut her down and let you
• 3:02:13
  guys get some rest. I know you had a tough night.
• 3:02:16
  I don't know what Oren was doing earlier.
• 3:02:18
  I think he was working on that artwork for his thumbnail that
• 3:02:21
  he made me. Oh no, that was pretty easy.
• 3:02:26
  Think I use the same thing to make the artwork that you use
• 3:02:30
  for your music. Why?
• 3:02:33
  I use AI whenever I'm doing some of my imagery for sure, and I
• 3:02:38
  love playing around with that. I've hooked up my buddy over
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  here with some AI tools and all that kind of stuff.
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  It's pretty cool. Yeah.
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  I think we got somebody called Marshall here thinking.
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  About like, I don't know, not that long to do it.
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  I actually used your image. I took a picture of you.
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  I said make me as a manatee sitting on a dirty mattress with
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  a bowl of spilled Mac and cheese.
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  There you go. I'm sure you'll get some brownie
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  points of DP over that. Hey Marshall, what's up?
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  Let's see what we got. Hey Marshall, yes, yes.
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  Thank you for the right moving along.
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  That's what we deal with on a daily basis with the atheist.
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  It's wonder. It's a wonder why we still love
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  any of them, huh? Yeah.
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  Is that from the Drunken Peasants group?
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  Yeah, if you get an average typical atheist that comes in
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  that isn't associated with that shit, you can usually have a
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  pretty good conversation. We did have ADP fan on just two
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  days ago. Mean Smokey was hanging out.
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  Guy comes in, plays the guitar for us, and we had a really
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  great conversation. He wanted to know a little bit
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  about why there was drama. We gave him some of our
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  perspectives of the history of it, and I think we ended up
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  making us a new buddy. He seemed like he was all right.
• 3:04:07
  Wow. He also ended up deleting a big
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  ass mean tweet that he had made about me back in the day.
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  That's pretty cool of it. It is.
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  We got another person here, Jinky.
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  Jinky. If don't do any racial slurs or
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  I ban you permanently, not be nice.
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  What's going on, Jinky? Yeah, very good.
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  That's that free thinking, critical thought they talked
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  about right there. Praise.
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  Yeah, I'm pretty racist. You claim to be humanitarians.
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  Humanists. You want to make the world a
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  more positive place and that religious people are the evil
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  ones. But they're quick to racial
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  slurs, OK? Yeah.
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  And now are you starting to understand or and why it gives
• 3:05:02
  atheists hard times sometimes it's because of shit like that.
• 3:05:08
  Oh, I understand. Trust me, me and praise would
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  love to say wow, these folks are really wired good.
• 3:05:18
  Their chemicals are just jetting off in the right direction.
• 3:05:25
  I mean, at least switch it up and call Mike honky or
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  something, Said It's just the N word.
• 3:05:30
  It's stupid. So I got an idea.
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  Since we're having a difficult time coming up with a topic, we
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  dealt with the first two things, right?
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  Substance abuse and drugs. And we could honestly say that
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  logically, that could also lead the person to one, right?
• 3:05:46
  The first thing, you know, if you're already depressed and
• 3:05:50
  then you start taking drugs and alcohol, it's going to end up #1
• 3:05:54
  let's go to three. What do you think about that
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  praise? Let's discuss that as well as
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  Horn. Yeah, I mean, so here's the
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  here's the issue I have with atheists too, is they really
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  don't have any boundaries where it should stop and where it
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  should end. So anything's permissible
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  sexually. You can be a deviant and it
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  really there's there's no boundary where that's not
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  supposed to be. So yeah, I think that's the
• 3:06:24
  natural conclusion. That's probably with the NAMBLA.
• 3:06:29
  When it comes into perversion and stuff, that's what it
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  actually leads to. What about all the perversion in
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  church with the preachers? Well, the Christians don't
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  accept that kind of behavior whatsoever the the belief is.
• 3:06:43
  I mean if praise found out. Them to a different church.
• 3:06:47
  Well, that's what some Catholics have done.
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  But me and Praise, we're not Catholics ourselves, so we would
• 3:06:53
  disagree with that. If Praise found out that the
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  preacher that he listens to is doing something like that, he'd
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  probably be taking mine in the woodshed.
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  Am I right? Praise?
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  Well, that's. The problem is, is that NAMBLA
• 3:07:06
  is actually, they created the organization specifically for
• 3:07:12
  relationships with young people, and that's no good.
• 3:07:15
  That was actually founded by atheism.
• 3:07:17
  They they put that together and it's all about the attraction of
• 3:07:21
  minors. So Catholicism did not get
• 3:07:25
  created or come into existence on the basis of wanting to do
• 3:07:29
  things with kids. Just unfortunately, they don't
• 3:07:32
  do good filtering. They end up getting some
• 3:07:34
  perverts or demons in there. And then we got what we got in
• 3:07:38
  the news. Yep, here we go.
• 3:07:45
  Here's another topic. What do we got here?
• 3:07:47
  Praise. What's this all about Sexual
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  offending? Wow.
• 3:07:54
  Where does it say that the majority of the offending
• 3:07:57
  offenses come from? It looks like atheists.
• 3:08:06
  And transgenders, unfortunately. It's strange, isn't it?
• 3:08:10
  Because transgenders do not make up a huge community or group in
• 3:08:14
  society, yet according to the the stats, they make up most of
• 3:08:19
  the ones who eventually end up on a sex crime deal.
• 3:08:23
  Why do you think that is? They have, they really don't
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  have any moral guide and there's no guidance there.
• 3:08:34
  There's nothing, no moral foundation for anything.
• 3:08:39
  I'm not saying that all of them are doing and I'm just saying
• 3:08:42
  that they got a uneven balance of this this aggressive behavior
• 3:08:48
  according to stats. Why is that?
• 3:08:51
  They're such a small group, yet it's almost to the point where
• 3:08:54
  it's over half of them that will eventually either already have a
• 3:08:58
  criminal record or something that involves some kind of
• 3:09:02
  sexual assault or sexual act that violates someone else.
• 3:09:06
  Why? I think that we need to
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  understand this. That way we can help people.
• 3:09:15
  Yeah. I mean, where's the moral
• 3:09:17
  restraint? I don't see what would restrain
• 3:09:19
  them from doing that stuff. Right now in society, we're
• 3:09:23
  doing this weird thing where we're cuddling different groups
• 3:09:26
  instead of holding people accountable and responsible.
• 3:09:29
  We're saying, oh, they couldn't help, but they didn't have
• 3:09:32
  control and all that. Well, you know what they did
• 3:09:34
  back in the day when they would say somebody didn't have
• 3:09:37
  control? They put them in a mental
• 3:09:38
  hospital where they got therapy and medications, and we're
• 3:09:42
  looked after by professionals. You don't let somebody run
• 3:09:45
  around and say that they're so out of control.
• 3:09:47
  They'll take themselves out along with a bunch of kids.
• 3:09:50
  Come on. What are we doing?
• 3:09:55
  Yeah. All right.
• 3:09:55
  Next topic. Are you guys done with that one?
• 3:09:57
  Have I bored you yet? No, keep thinking like I had to
• 3:10:02
  introspect on that. Something to think about.
• 3:10:06
  Here we go #4 You know, you always hear non believers say,
• 3:10:12
  oh, we've got, we've got places where we run politics.
• 3:10:16
  Well, according to Google Analytics, it basically tells us
• 3:10:21
  that in the atheist countries, that's where the highest rate
• 3:10:25
  crimes and domestic abuse over all religious countries,
• 3:10:28
  including Islam, believe it or not.
• 3:10:30
  And that sounds kind of fishy, but it's true.
• 3:10:34
  Why do you think that is? Anybody any views?
• 3:10:43
  No moral standard. Well, I guess we'll go with it.
• 3:10:48
  All right, next topic. Let's see what we got.
• 3:10:52
  Atheists are more likely than any other group to be what?
• 3:10:58
  Hello and Homo and transcendent. Oof, that's rough.
• 3:11:05
  And why is that? Morals again?
• 3:11:14
  Yeah, there's probably one there.
• 3:11:18
  The only final I ever knew was a God believing Jew.
• 3:11:23
  Check this out. Did you see the bottom of it
• 3:11:25
  though? What's that say in green
• 3:11:27
  letters? Catholics can hold a candle.
• 3:11:30
  The atheist gravity. Yeah, we got some nasty
• 3:11:34
  Catholics for sure, and they definitely need a spanking for
• 3:11:37
  what they've done, but they don't hold the candle to what's
• 3:11:41
  going on on the other side. Oof, that's rough.
• 3:11:46
  Yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't know why, you
• 3:11:56
  know, that's, I hope the atheists break out of it,
• 3:11:58
  whatever they're in. Well, why should they?
• 3:12:04
  There's no God and there's no actual objective laws and rules.
• 3:12:08
  And why should they? That's exactly what Jeffrey
• 3:12:11
  Dahmer, the serial killer, said. He said why should I put any
• 3:12:15
  kind of limitations on my morals?
• 3:12:17
  Who's to say I'm wrong? You know who Jeffrey Dahmer is,
• 3:12:21
  right? Of course.
• 3:12:24
  The Cannibal. Yep, I'm one of the prolific
• 3:12:28
  murderers of our time. That's what he said, that he was
• 3:12:32
  an atheist. He said I you know who's to put
• 3:12:35
  the parameters in my morality? He didn't believe in God.
• 3:12:39
  Why hold off and do whatever you want?
• 3:12:41
  If you want to have a human hamburger, why not?
• 3:12:47
  That sounds awful for multiple reasons.
• 3:12:51
  It is. It is horrible.
• 3:12:53
  But if I guarantee you and I, if we sat down and talked about
• 3:12:56
  this, you'd I'd agree with you. All of it's wrong.
• 3:13:00
  It's horrible, terrible. Difference is, as I say, that
• 3:13:03
  morality comes from an objective creator who created and designed
• 3:13:07
  reality. But what would you say?
• 3:13:10
  Well, that's just the way the world works.
• 3:13:16
  I'm listening. If you got something else, I
• 3:13:18
  won't assume that's what you'd viewed as.
• 3:13:28
  Well. Want to see something crazy?
• 3:13:38
  Praise. I was digging through some of my
• 3:13:40
  DVDs and all that my older recordings and I thought I had
• 3:13:45
  gotten rid of all my non believer videos.
• 3:13:47
  You want to see what I look like and sounded like as an atheist?
• 3:13:51
  Yeah. All right, here you go.
• 3:13:54
  Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.
• 3:13:56
  This is Brad Keenan. Today we're going to talk about
• 3:13:59
  living up to expectations. I know that there's a lot of
• 3:14:03
  young people on YouTube. YouTube is mostly covered in
• 3:14:07
  young people. So being that that's the case,
• 3:14:10
  the probability of young people watching my videos, this is an
• 3:14:13
  important message for you to think about.
• 3:14:16
  You know, whenever. I was younger, my grandmother,
• 3:14:19
  actually, she dreamed of the idea of me becoming a preacher.
• 3:14:24
  That's what she wanted. If she was alive today, if she
• 3:14:27
  had not died from cancer right in front of my eyes, she
• 3:14:31
  probably would have slapped me in the damn head with a hot
• 3:14:35
  spatula, realizing holy cow, this guy's an atheist.
• 3:14:40
  What the idea of God not existing?
• 3:14:44
  Oof. Questioning the Bible?
• 3:14:47
  Oh, she would have just lost it. And I know my father, even
• 3:14:50
  though we had very little time together in my life and stuff,
• 3:14:54
  because he, he left my mother. Due to divorce.
• 3:14:58
  He wanted me to be a mechanic like him.
• 3:15:01
  He wanted me to be able to understand how to basically work
• 3:15:05
  on cars and do that kind of stuff.
• 3:15:08
  But that wasn't in the cards for me.
• 3:15:11
  That wasn't what I wanted to do. Now, the thing that I find that
• 3:15:15
  a lot of people get themselves into is that they want to make
• 3:15:18
  their parents proud. They want to make their
• 3:15:20
  grandparents proud. They want to live up to
• 3:15:23
  expectations of other people. Teenagers and young people find
• 3:15:28
  that whenever they're in school, there's certain type of clothes
• 3:15:31
  that they expect you to wear, There's certain type of shoes
• 3:15:34
  that you have to own and brand names and all these different
• 3:15:37
  things. And, and it's hard to keep up
• 3:15:40
  with them because even if you get the shirt, the Adidas shirt
• 3:15:43
  or the Nike shoes next week, it's going to be something new,
• 3:15:46
  you know, pummels or, you know, whatever the fuck it is.
• 3:15:50
  That's Air Jordans, you know, whatever the case might be.
• 3:15:54
  So in the end, what you discover as you get older is that no
• 3:15:59
  matter what you do, you cannot live up to other people's
• 3:16:04
  expectations. A lot of the expectations that
• 3:16:06
  people have for their children are expectations they themself
• 3:16:10
  couldn't even meet. It's like putting you in a race
• 3:16:14
  that they themself would never win, so why would they expect
• 3:16:17
  you to? Try to do the.
• 3:16:18
  Race that they themself couldn't do themselves.
• 3:16:23
  So my advice to you out there, ladies and gentlemen and young
• 3:16:26
  people, is to have expectations for yourself.
• 3:16:31
  Think about what it is that you're into.
• 3:16:32
  Do you want to be an astronaut one day?
• 3:16:34
  Do you want to be a fireman? Do you want to, you know, be a
• 3:16:37
  lawyer, you know, who actually cares about the cases and cares
• 3:16:41
  about the people that you're representing?
• 3:16:44
  If you want to be a preacher, do you want to be the type of
• 3:16:47
  preacher who preaches about loving God and how you believe
• 3:16:51
  in the Bible and all this kind of stuff and take money out of
• 3:16:55
  the poor's hand? Or do you want to be the
• 3:16:57
  preacher? Who?
• 3:16:58
  Says look, God provides. It's all up to you.
• 3:17:02
  It's all up to you. These, these folks, all they've
• 3:17:04
  done really is they've given birth to you.
• 3:17:06
  They brought you into this world, sure, and you may owe
• 3:17:10
  them some respect and a little bit of love and all that.
• 3:17:12
  But in the end, if people really love you and they care about
• 3:17:17
  you, then they will expect this will be their highest
• 3:17:21
  expectation of all that whatever you choose to do, and this is if
• 3:17:25
  they love you, is to be happy in the end, to be content with your
• 3:17:30
  life. Being content and being at peace
• 3:17:32
  with yourself is a challenge within itself.
• 3:17:36
  There's a lot of people who are rich, poor, middle class, who
• 3:17:39
  have not found that peace that they had, that they wish that
• 3:17:43
  they could engulf themselves into.
• 3:17:46
  Peace out, ladies and gentlemen. Tojo is an awful atheist at
• 3:17:53
  night. Yeah, you looked a little bit
• 3:17:58
  overconfident there, a little bit arrogant, but I've actually
• 3:18:03
  seen a lot worse. Though it's weird for you, isn't
• 3:18:09
  it strange for me to look back as well?
• 3:18:14
  A blast from the past. Really was.
• 3:18:19
  Yeah, yeah, I found a few others as well.
• 3:18:23
  They're not all that though. I don't, I don't know if I'll
• 3:18:26
  put up any of those old ass things.
• 3:18:28
  I don't see why anybody want to look at them.
• 3:18:33
  So is I've seen you had hair there, man, that's pretty cool.
• 3:18:38
  What do you mean I have hair? I still have hair.
• 3:18:43
  Let's see the hair, Brett. Here, check this out.
• 3:18:49
  This will crack you up. Praise.
• 3:18:51
  Are you ready? Have you ever seen my time
• 3:18:53
  travel video? No.
• 3:18:56
  So a lot of people didn't realize this, but did you know
• 3:18:59
  that at 13 years old, I went completely Gray?
• 3:19:03
  I have premature Gray hair. So what I would do in order for
• 3:19:07
  people to quit calling me the Gray Fox or old man?
• 3:19:10
  Whenever I was younger, I'd dye my hair.
• 3:19:13
  Well, I decided about a couple years ago that I would dye my
• 3:19:17
  hair again and see if it made a difference and I made a video
• 3:19:20
  where it shows the old me and then what happens?
• 3:19:23
  Are you ready? Yeah.
• 3:19:26
  This is called Brett Keene time travels.
• 3:19:28
  This blew a lot of people's mind just two years ago.
• 3:19:31
  I'd uploaded it. Here you go.
• 3:19:33
  This is 2 years ago. After dyeing hair and basically
• 3:19:37
  getting myself cleaned up a little bit for a video.
• 3:19:39
  Here you go. I'm laying on my bed.
• 3:20:16
  None. Yeah, dyeing your hair and your
• 3:20:39
  whiskers and all that can make a difference, Might make you even
• 3:20:42
  somewhat pretty again. Man, you look good there, Brett.
• 3:20:46
  Wow, Yeah. Yeah, my wife and I, we've been
• 3:20:50
  discussing, I've been thinking about getting on webcam again,
• 3:20:53
  but I don't know if I should do the old hair, the old Gray hair
• 3:20:57
  look though, because people, they think I'm a lot older than
• 3:20:59
  what I actually AM. And of course with the kicking
• 3:21:02
  of the health issues. But when I dye on my hair and I
• 3:21:05
  cleaned it up a little bit and get on there, boy, people are
• 3:21:08
  like, what in the hell? I do look a lot younger when I
• 3:21:11
  dye the hair. Yeah, dye the hair.
• 3:21:14
  Get on camera again. Yeah, well, Ben won't have
• 3:21:18
  nothing to make fun of anymore if I don't have some flaws on
• 3:21:21
  me. My my wife likes the Gray hair
• 3:21:26
  and all that, but she does admit she's like you.
• 3:21:28
  Do you look like you're like, you know, 1520 years younger
• 3:21:32
  when you do this. Do the luck and shave up right
• 3:21:36
  now. I got a ZZ Top thing going.
• 3:21:43
  ZZ Top Z. Top was awesome.
• 3:22:01
  So I got to ask you guys, surely you've seen T JS latest videos.
• 3:22:06
  I don't know about you but I don't think it was a good idea
• 3:22:08
  to shave off his beard mustache. What do you guys think?
• 3:22:11
  Have you seen what he looked like recently?
• 3:22:14
  I even told him on Twitter. I said what the hell did you do
• 3:22:16
  man? You were hiding half your face
• 3:22:18
  and it was actually pretty cool. What'd you go and shave it all
• 3:22:21
  off? And now we got to look at you.
• 3:22:22
  I was joking, obviously. Come on, people, have a sense of
• 3:22:30
  humor. I don't know man, I think it's
• 3:22:32
  fine. Really.
• 3:22:34
  You actually think that without the beard and the mustache that
• 3:22:37
  works for you? I think he still has the goatee.
• 3:22:43
  And there's a little bit of Pete's fuzz there.
• 3:22:46
  I don't know. I don't know.
• 3:22:47
  You should have stuck with it. I don't know about Paul though.
• 3:22:52
  Boy, I've been looking at him. I feel so sorry for that damn
• 3:22:56
  charity setting on hoof. Goodness gracious if they had a
• 3:22:59
  voice and be screaming out. Help me, help me.
• 3:23:06
  I'm sorry, I'm just kidding. I'm just being silly.
• 3:23:18
  Oh man, I got to get going, Brett, but thanks for having me
• 3:23:21
  and it was a a pleasure being here and thanks for and thanks
• 3:23:24
  for the talk. Oren, is that your name?
• 3:23:27
  Yeah. Cool man, good talking with you
• 3:23:32
  Oren, and maybe I'll have some more discussions in the future.
• 3:23:35
  Sounds good. All right, guys.
• 3:23:38
  Well, I'll shut her down then. All right.
• 3:23:41
  Let's see. Let's see what we got.
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