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Full Show Podcast: 18 August 2026 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
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  Speaker 1: early edition with sparks for business technology that keeps business
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  Speaker 1: moving news talks.
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  Speaker 2: They'd be good.
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  Speaker 3: Morning, welcome to Tuesday. Great to have your company. Six
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  Speaker 3: after five. The question for all this morning to bridge,
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  Speaker 3: to tunnel or to naval gaze. We'll look at that.
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  Speaker 3: We'll also head to Australia with Donald Demayo, We'll look
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  Speaker 3: at inflation with Westpac, and we will look at this
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  Speaker 3: group headed by David Cunlipp of all people looking at
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  Speaker 3: aged k All ahead.
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  Speaker 1: The agenda Tuesday, the.
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  Speaker 3: Adding to August so that sixty day window for a
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  Speaker 3: seaspire the US around deal expires today and there is
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  Speaker 3: still no agreement.
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  Speaker 4: They continue to act out. We know that these are
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  Speaker 4: evil people who, at the same time that President Trump
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  Speaker 4: is trying to negotiate with them, are calling for death
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  Speaker 4: to President Trump or calling for bounties on our own troops.
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  Speaker 3: Em while Trump's been up late on truth social as
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  Speaker 3: he's wanted to do and threatened to quote bomb the
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  Speaker 3: shit out of Amman if it gets in the way
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  Speaker 3: of talks. Of course, Amman and the Iranians are trying
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  Speaker 3: to do a deal over the Strait.
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  Speaker 5: The President told Fox News, if Oman gets in the way,
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  Speaker 5: will bomb the s out of them. The President also
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  Speaker 5: spoke about US ally Israel. Remember his son in law
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  Speaker 5: and top negotiator, Jared Kushner, is in the region. He
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  Speaker 5: met yesterday with Khalil al Haya, the current Hamas chief
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  Speaker 5: in Egypt, and the President said that they have a
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  Speaker 5: different channel with Hamas and that ultimately they are giving
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  Speaker 5: up their guns.
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  Speaker 3: To the UK. Bit of a whoopsie for Andy Burnham,
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  Speaker 3: he was texting somebody who he thought was Susie Wilds,
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  Speaker 3: which is Trump's chief of staff. However, it was somebody
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  Speaker 3: impersonating Susie Wilds, not actually Susie Wilds.
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  Speaker 6: What The British Embassy in Washington was so concerned it
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  Speaker 6: raised the matter with the White House. It's understood no
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  Speaker 6: messages of significance were sent.
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  Speaker 3: Finally, this morning, some sad news for Hollywood. US actress
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  Speaker 3: Hayden Pennetier has died at the age of thirty six.
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  Speaker 3: You might know her name Heroes, Nashville and the tear
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  Speaker 3: letting film Bring It On.
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  Speaker 7: He did a good job up here. He went a
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  Speaker 7: tough camp.
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  Speaker 8: From what I can see, Well, I'm very happy to
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  Speaker 8: have the approval of a five year old.
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  Speaker 7: I'm none the half, thank you very much. I'm finally
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  Speaker 7: realizing who my friends really are. Well, maybe being different
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  Speaker 7: is in the end of the world.
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  Speaker 9: Chap oh ya shut Sacha buyoo her my name is Brittany.
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  Speaker 1: What ye.
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  Speaker 3: Way, I'll shake.
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  Speaker 1: It be, I'll break it on.
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  Speaker 3: That was bringing on cause of death at this point.
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  Speaker 3: Still TBC.
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  Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth
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  Speaker 1: analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and Spunk for business
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  Speaker 1: technology that keeps business moving.
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  Speaker 3: News talks. It'd be nine two nine two the number
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  Speaker 3: two text. Would love to hear what you think about
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  Speaker 3: a bridge V, A tunnel V and Meola Reef. I'm
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  Speaker 3: always fascinated by Meola Reef. That's Wayne's little baby because
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  Speaker 3: Meola Reef goes from Westmea. If those people who know
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  Speaker 3: Point Chef, Westmea a few fancy homes out there, it's
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  Speaker 3: where Ali Williams and Anna Mobra got their big house
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  Speaker 3: out there, and it would go across from that side
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  Speaker 3: to the north and you would have to build motorway.
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  Speaker 3: You'd have to destroy a suburb essentially, and you'd have
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  Speaker 3: to build a motorway connection on the northern side to
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  Speaker 3: connect to the Northern Motorway going north, and Wayne Brown's
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  Speaker 3: and the argument for putting it there in terms of cost,
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  Speaker 3: he says, well, eighty percent of getting from south to
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  Speaker 3: north is reef, so you don't have to dig down
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  Speaker 3: and drill down into the seabit. You've actually just got reef.
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  Speaker 3: And then the last twenty percent that's really what you've
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  Speaker 3: got to get over. But it's all apparently quite fickle
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  Speaker 3: and not exactly stable, this reef, so you might have
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  Speaker 3: to drill down the whole way anyway. So anyway, that's
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  Speaker 3: his argument. But the other thing he says is is
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  Speaker 3: it smart to put a second crossing right next to
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  Speaker 3: the current crossing because all of the feeding in you know,
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  Speaker 3: whenever you're trying to get on an on ramp or
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  Speaker 3: get off an off ramp or whatever, it's a nightmare.
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  Speaker 3: So would that change or would it actually just make
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  Speaker 3: it worse? So you're not better to put the second
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  Speaker 3: crossing far away from the current one. We'd love to
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  Speaker 3: know what you think about that. The other optional courses
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  Speaker 3: that people would just swim. I mean, we're always talking about,
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  Speaker 3: you know, obesity, we're talking about diabetes, we're talking about
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  Speaker 3: fast food. So why aren't we swimming? You know, why
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  Speaker 3: aren't we swimming across the harbor? That would be a
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  Speaker 3: question from me. And also I've got something for you
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  Speaker 3: this morning which is of interest if you are doing
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  Speaker 3: overtime or you earn a lot of commission. You know,
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  Speaker 3: the government, the Brooke van Velden sl changed the Holidays Act.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, they completely replaced it. We now have the
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  Speaker 3: Employment Leave Act. If you are somebody, that's now law.
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  Speaker 3: So if you're somebody who does overtime or gets a
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  Speaker 3: lot of commission, you might be in for a surprise
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  Speaker 3: when you take and you'll leave, because and you'll leave
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  Speaker 3: under the old system was based on the sort of
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  Speaker 3: average of your ordinary weekly pay or your average weekly earnings,
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  Speaker 3: which is basically adding up what you earned for the
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  Speaker 3: year and dividing it by fifty two, and that's what
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  Speaker 3: you would get paid. Under the new system, the leave
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  Speaker 3: payment is based on the lowest hourly rate payable for
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  Speaker 3: the shift that you are taking leave from. So that's
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  Speaker 3: not going to include your overtime, that's not going to
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  Speaker 3: include your incentives, and that's not going to include your bonuses.
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  Speaker 3: Now to me, that does not seem fair. Whether an
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  Speaker 3: employer will be nice and give it to you anyway
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  Speaker 3: is another question, but little fly in the ointment for
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  Speaker 3: the employment law. Twelve after five, Look at HC Next
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  Speaker 3: News Talks AB. It is fourteen minutes after five, so
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  Speaker 3: let's take a look at China show. China very important
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  Speaker 3: to New Zealand in terms of growth, our number one
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  Speaker 3: export market and their economy. There is showing sign that
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  Speaker 3: the slowdown that was happening in the previous quarter may
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  Speaker 3: be extending into July. They had their weakest quarterly growth
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  Speaker 3: rates ever and now July the latest figures Factory output
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  Speaker 3: up four and a half percent from a year earlier
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  Speaker 3: to July. That's compared with five point three percent in June.
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  Speaker 3: Retail saleser point six percent. That is a slowdown from
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  Speaker 3: one percent in June. And this is despite the fact
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  Speaker 3: they had summer holiday tourism spending. Despite the fact that
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  Speaker 3: the forecasters were predicting one and a half percent. They
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  Speaker 3: grew just zero point six on retail sales. Now, they've
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  Speaker 3: had some bad things happen. They've had some bad weather,
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  Speaker 3: they've had some high temperatures, they've had some heavy rainfall.
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  Speaker 3: None of this stuff helps, But you can expect on
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  Speaker 3: the back of this that Beijing will spring into action
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  Speaker 3: as Beijing is wanted to do. They will cut some taxes,
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  Speaker 3: they will throw in some subsidies, they'll do some freebes,
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  Speaker 3: they will make their products more competitive overseas because the
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  Speaker 3: domestic demand just isn't there at the moment. Time now
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  Speaker 3: is quarter past five, Ry and Bridge, right, We're going
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  Speaker 3: to do the age care later in the show this morning.
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  Speaker 3: Right now, more evidence inflation is calling stats Ins releasing
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  Speaker 3: their Selected Price Index. This shows food inflation up one
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  Speaker 3: point nine percent on last year. The big drivers of
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  Speaker 3: a softer increase meat which fell one point four Petrol
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  Speaker 3: easing as well, down six percent for the month, with
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  Speaker 3: diesel down twelve percent. Ranchod Renthuod Rubber is Westpaxen your
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  Speaker 3: economists with me this morning, Satistic, Good morning morning mine.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm returning a corner. What do you reckon?
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  Speaker 10: I think we've still seen some pretty strong inflation pressures
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  Speaker 10: were it's pretty welcome you to see those law process
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  Speaker 10: to the meat and petrol. And inflation probably is coming
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  Speaker 10: down from where it was a couple of months ago,
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  Speaker 10: but it's still pretty hot. I think there's a lot
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  Speaker 10: of pressure on household's finances.
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  Speaker 3: And the OHDR is going to keep going up anyway,
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  Speaker 3: isn't it.
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  Speaker 10: We've still got inflation sitting well above three percent, and
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  Speaker 10: that's not just down to things like fuel. So for
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  Speaker 10: the Reserve Bank that are still at a pretty hot
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  Speaker 10: inflation picture, there are probably going to raise the OCO
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  Speaker 10: a couple more times this year.
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  Speaker 3: So you reckon about three percent at the moment for inflation,
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  Speaker 3: I think it's.
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  Speaker 10: Probably sitting at you a little bit higher than that.
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  Speaker 10: It's probably going to sit about three to three and
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  Speaker 10: a half percent by the end of this year, and
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  Speaker 10: that's well above where it should be.
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  Speaker 3: So Teach, I've been looking this morning at governments of
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  Speaker 3: the world over, not just ours, but borrowing and the
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  Speaker 3: bond yields going up, the cost of their borrowing is
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  Speaker 3: going up. The cost of their borrowing is now higher
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  Speaker 3: for a lot of advanced economies than at any time
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  Speaker 3: since the GFC do we worry about that.
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  Speaker 10: We're seeing that pressure come through of the finances of
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  Speaker 10: a lot of governments right now, and that is really
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  Speaker 10: important because that is going to be flying through to
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  Speaker 10: pressure on the finances, greater pressure for them to cut
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  Speaker 10: back spending. And we're seeing that there's a lot of
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  Speaker 10: demand for services that Cassold to me right now.
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  Speaker 3: So how do you get out of this spiral where
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  Speaker 3: the government needs to keep borrowing, the interest rates need
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  Speaker 3: to keep going up, and the cost of that borrowing
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  Speaker 3: goes up too.
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  Speaker 10: I think this comes down to a really tough trade
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  Speaker 10: off for not just governments, but for all of us.
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  Speaker 10: We need to think about what we want in terms
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  Speaker 10: of government services, but also how we're going to fund it.
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  Speaker 10: There's a really tough discussion to have. It's going to
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  Speaker 10: be a big issue going into this year's election.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Satis Ranchold, appreciate your time this morning. That
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  Speaker 3: is Westpac senior economists to Tish Ranchold. Time is eighteen
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  Speaker 3: minutes after five loads of feedback coming in. We haven't
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  Speaker 3: even talked about it yet. On the question of aged here,
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  Speaker 3: Steve has quite a controversial take. Ryan, The question needs
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  Speaker 3: to be asked how much money should we be spending
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  Speaker 3: keeping old people alive for an extra year or two.
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  Speaker 3: A friend of mine says, and this is just her opinion,
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  Speaker 3: that you should when you get to a certain age,
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  Speaker 3: you should either choose. You either get the free healthcare
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  Speaker 3: or you get the pension. But you can't have both.
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  Speaker 3: There are too many old people. Now. You know, my
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  Speaker 3: grandma is almost ninety and she's getting hips done, she's
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  Speaker 3: getting knees done, she's getting elbows facts, she's getting well.
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  Speaker 3: She's on the list, I think, But you know, she's ninety.
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  Speaker 3: If that comes at the expense of young people getting
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  Speaker 3: access to healthcare that they need, do we do something
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  Speaker 3: about that? Are we worried about that? Can you have
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  Speaker 3: everything you want in society? Probably not. Anyway, we'll talk
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  Speaker 3: about aged care with David Cumnorp. Next News Talks MB
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  Speaker 3: the Early.
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  Speaker 1: Before the news breaks here at first Ryan Brand John
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  Speaker 1: Early Editions with Spark for Business Technology that keeps business
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  Speaker 1: Moving Newstalks V.
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  Speaker 3: Five twenty one. We'll head to Australia with Donald tomorrow
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  Speaker 3: after five point thirty this morning. First to call for
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  Speaker 3: wealthier keywis to fund more of our essential aged care services.
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  Speaker 3: This has come from the minister or Advisory groups reportant
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  Speaker 3: to aged care it reckons cost will double over the
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  Speaker 3: next twenty years. They want structural reform. David Cunliff, Aged
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  Speaker 3: Care Ministerial Advisory Group Chair, joins me this morning. David,
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  Speaker 3: good morning, Good morning.
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  Speaker 10: Run.
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  Speaker 3: So you want the rich to pay more for the system.
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  Speaker 3: How's this system funded at the moment the.
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  Speaker 2: Moment, the system is part funded by personal contributions as
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  Speaker 2: part funded by the Taxpayer'll that'll continue? We need both
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  Speaker 2: to be putting more money in in order to make
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  Speaker 2: sure the system's there when the current generation, ages and
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  Speaker 2: future generations come through. If we make the system smarter
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  Speaker 2: and better, we can also save money compared to what
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  Speaker 2: it would be if we just kept funding the current system,
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  Speaker 2: about eight hundred and thirty five million dollars a year
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  Speaker 2: cheaper to the taxpayer by twenty thirty seven, thirty eight.
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  Speaker 2: It's a dividend worth getting.
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  Speaker 3: When you say the system, what exactly are we talking about?
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  Speaker 3: Are we talking about what hospitals or some kind of
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  Speaker 3: facility where old people go? What is it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Look great question. Firstly, it's your home care. So
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  Speaker 2: if granny is being looked after a home and someone's
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  Speaker 2: coming in for a few hours a week to help out,
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  Speaker 2: that's what we call the home care part of the system.
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  Speaker 2: When people get more frail, they move on to residential
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  Speaker 2: care or quote res care, that's being in a home
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  Speaker 2: of some kind. And then if people are really sick,
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  Speaker 2: of course they go into hospital. Now, most hospitals are
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  Speaker 2: publicly funded and pretty much free to the person going in,
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  Speaker 2: and there are a lot of old people in hospital.
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  Speaker 2: It's really expensive on the taxpayer who possibly shouldn't be there,
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  Speaker 2: who should either be cared for at home or could
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  Speaker 2: be in residential care.
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  Speaker 3: And why aren't they at home or in residential care
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  Speaker 3: because they can't afford it.
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  Speaker 2: No, because the services aren't there to look after them.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why we need to build a better, more
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  Speaker 2: integrated service with higher levels of care available at home.
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  Speaker 2: Not only is that better for them, because most people
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  Speaker 2: would like to be at home, close to their families,
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  Speaker 2: close their memories, where they've got this stuff, but it's
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  Speaker 2: also a lot cheaper to look after people in their
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  Speaker 2: homes than it is to put them in hospital. So
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  Speaker 2: it's nearly two thousand dollars a night in a hospital.
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  Speaker 3: So the government's not funding enough home care and residential
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  Speaker 3: care to get these older people out of hospital at
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  Speaker 3: the moment.
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  Speaker 2: That's correct, and that problem is getting worse.
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  Speaker 3: What's the shortfall? What's the how much it would that
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  Speaker 3: cost us?
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  Speaker 2: Well, if we run the clock forward about ten years
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  Speaker 2: and the moment we're paying two and a half billion,
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  Speaker 2: we would be paying nearly five billion dollars by twenty
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  Speaker 2: thirty seven thirty eight. I we just pump money into
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  Speaker 2: the current system without fixing it, and it's just to
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  Speaker 2: build beds in res care and to keep the current
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  Speaker 2: system going. If we redesign it, if we join it
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  Speaker 2: together better, if we remove the bottlenecks and barriers, if
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  Speaker 2: we look after people better in their homes, we can
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  Speaker 2: save eight hundred and thirty five million dollars a year
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  Speaker 2: and bring that tab down to three point seven billion,
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  Speaker 2: not five.
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  Speaker 3: Where Where does the asking wealthier people think come from?
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  Speaker 3: What does that mean that their co payment for home
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  Speaker 3: care or co payment for residential care would go up
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  Speaker 3: if you've got more assets or something.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, partly, but it's a packaged deal. What we're recommending
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  Speaker 2: is the principle that your basic health care is free
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  Speaker 2: should be true and protected all the way across the system. Now,
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  Speaker 2: at the moment it's free in hospital, it's not free
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  Speaker 2: in res care, and it is free at home, but
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  Speaker 2: there's not much of it. So we want to joined
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  Speaker 2: up system where medical care is protecting free right across
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  Speaker 2: the system. But for those who can afford to contribute
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  Speaker 2: to their personal care their home services, that they should
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  Speaker 2: make a small contribution to that. And of course at
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  Speaker 2: the moment you pay for your residential care if you
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  Speaker 2: go in, if your assets are over a certain threshold,
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  Speaker 2: we would change that threshold and make it smoother. David
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  Speaker 2: Cunnell would also bring in a cap so you couldn't
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  Speaker 2: pay for more than.
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  Speaker 3: Five years aged care. Ministerial Advisory Group Chair, it is
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  Speaker 3: twenty five after five. Love your feedback on that one
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  Speaker 3: nine two nine two News Talks. Heb Tuesday morning on
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  Speaker 3: News Talks, heb it is five twenty seven. So we've
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  Speaker 3: been waiting for decades for somebody, anybody to build a
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  Speaker 3: new bridge or tunnel or pretty much anything across Auckland's harbor.
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  Speaker 3: The consultant bill now one hundred million dollars across the
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  Speaker 3: current National and former Labor governments. The most galling part
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  Speaker 3: of that, of course, was the fifty million spent on
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  Speaker 3: consultants for Labour's plan to put a one billion dollar
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  Speaker 3: cycling only bridge over the harbor. Remember that. Can you
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  Speaker 3: imagine sitting in a car on the bridge in peak
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  Speaker 3: hour traffic, looking across the white matar and seeing a
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  Speaker 3: gold plated bike bridge being constructed with no option for
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  Speaker 3: driving madness. Those living in outer urban areas of Auckland,
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  Speaker 3: eighty percent of them commute to work by car, so
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  Speaker 3: we're one hundred million down. A lot of the old promises,
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  Speaker 3: we're told didn't even involve anybody going to have a
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  Speaker 3: look at the seafloor to investigate. All just done on
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  Speaker 3: computer at home, some computer modeling. The barge in the
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  Speaker 3: harbor that we've talked about on the show previously with
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  Speaker 3: Wayne Brown, that's apparently doing some actual testing, which has
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  Speaker 3: got to be a good thing. We now have three
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  Speaker 3: plans or options on the go. A new study on
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  Speaker 3: the costs, the time frame, the benefits of a bridge
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  Speaker 3: or a tunnel. By the way, the NDTA board preferred
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  Speaker 3: a tunnel, A new one million dollar Meola reef study,
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  Speaker 3: as a sop to Wayne Brown and a private consortium
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  Speaker 3: with an idea we know very little about at this point.
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  Speaker 3: For anyone about to hit rush our traffic this morning,
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  Speaker 3: please don't hold your breath for any quick fixes or
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  Speaker 3: even decisions on anything crossing the bridge anytime soon. Ryan
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  Speaker 3: Bridge Teennine. Minutes after five, we'll go to Donner out
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: of Australia. Loads of your texts, Ryan, leave us hold
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: these alone. This after the interview with David Kunniff. We'll
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: also talk about the bridge before six, said B.
• 17:37
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• 18:00
  Speaker 3: Four minutes away from six News Talks they'd be coming
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: up in twenty minutes. Bridge Tunnel slash money Pit for
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Auckland will also go to Australia. AI investment scams are
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: taking off there and it's costing them millions and millions
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: of dollars in lost savings, particularly for elderly spoke folk.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: Elderly folk, I should say, speaking of loads of your
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: texts coming in after We spoke to David Cunliffe about
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: aged care. So you pay depending on what happens. I mean,
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: you can pay obviously and go private or get someone
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: to come to your house and look after you. Ryan.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: A lot of people are upset about the fact that
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: we're talking about healthcare and in relation to older people. Ryan,
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: we should be keeping should we be keeping young people alive?
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: If they need ongoing healthcare, they will be a drain
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: on finances longer than an older person would. Says this text. Ryan,
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: whoever that is, should leave the oldies alone. We've paid
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: fifty plus years in tax. We only get thirty two
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: k a year most volunteer, and the country is run
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: by volunteers. We are not trouble makers. Just let us
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: be Okay. Good morning, Kay, and good morning to all
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: of our listeners this morning. Look, there's nothing wrong with
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: being old, and I don't think anyone said there is
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: just an economic reality that there's a baby boom generation.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: There's a whole bunch of older people, and the older
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: you get, the more healthcare you need. And everybody over
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: the age of sixty five gets a pension that's also
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: very expensive. So those things combined, it's not saying that,
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: you know, you haven't done a wonderful thing, had a
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: wonderful life and paid a lot of taxes. No one's
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: saying that. It's just what do you do to fund
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: a system without increasing taxes on everyone else? How do
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: you fund a system that is getting more and more expensive?
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Twenty two minutes away from six Thatt's go to our
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: reporters around the country, Calum and need morning. Calum, Right,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: what's happening with the southeast controversial data center that everyone's
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: talking about. Well, works underway.
• 20:02
  Speaker 11: They're now on the multi billion dollar project near in
• 20:06
  Speaker 11: the Cargol and it's to become a New Zealand's biggest
• 20:09
  Speaker 11: data center.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Data Grids's horizontal works.
• 20:12
  Speaker 11: Have started at its forty nine hectare Markerewas site, and
• 20:16
  Speaker 11: that includes a new access road, roading upgrades into the
• 20:19
  Speaker 11: an excavation for a six meter high bund. The foundation platform,
• 20:23
  Speaker 11: cable landing station and power substation are all.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: Expected to be completed by the end of the year.
• 20:29
  Speaker 11: Look this project's faced community concerns over power noise and
• 20:33
  Speaker 11: lack of consultation after it was granted consent earlier this year,
• 20:37
  Speaker 11: but Data grid says it will be one of the
• 20:38
  Speaker 11: most sustainable data centers in the Asia Pacific region.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: How's your weather?
• 20:43
  Speaker 11: A few showers about today's strong southwesterlies.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: The high just eleven hice one callum, Thank you Claars
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: and christ this morning clip.
• 20:50
  Speaker 12: Good morning.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: So you've got the first official public feedback on the
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: new stadium and there's good and bad.
• 20:55
  Speaker 12: Yeah, good and bad. It looks like sports fans are happy,
• 20:58
  Speaker 12: but concert goers not. Wh it's so impressed. Documents released
• 21:02
  Speaker 12: two news talks 'db this week's show. Sporting matches at
• 21:04
  Speaker 12: the new Stadium have recorded what they call a net
• 21:07
  Speaker 12: promoter score above seventy out of one hundred. That means
• 21:10
  Speaker 12: most fans would recommend the venue to friends and family,
• 21:14
  Speaker 12: but the once in a Lifetime concert, which happened in
• 21:16
  Speaker 12: May scored only forty one. Complaints centered on general admission areas.
• 21:21
  Speaker 12: Fans are very unhappy about no internal access and having
• 21:24
  Speaker 12: to use portaloos, which we covered here in our news
• 21:27
  Speaker 12: now Venues. Autotati Chief executive Caroline Harvey Tia says it
• 21:30
  Speaker 12: hasn't all been perfect, but ongoing tweeks are paying off.
• 21:33
  Speaker 12: The Warriors match in June, for example, scored ninety one
• 21:36
  Speaker 12: out of one hundred Super Rugby Super Round was seventy five,
• 21:39
  Speaker 12: and that's despite complaints they received about no passout policy
• 21:43
  Speaker 12: and loud music. Some of the other Crusaders games have
• 21:46
  Speaker 12: averaged eighty one, more than double the thirty seven they
• 21:49
  Speaker 12: were getting at the old stadium.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that's great. How's your weather cloudy with.
• 21:53
  Speaker 12: A few showers about today spreading this afternoon southwesterly, strong
• 21:57
  Speaker 12: and the high will be twelve.
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  Speaker 3: Nice one, Max and wellings and morning Mac, Good morning.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Chris Bishops had to take down a billboard.
• 22:03
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Senior MP Attorney General Bishop apparently been flouting the
• 22:07
  Speaker 8: rules around electioneering. Story in the Post this morning. So
• 22:11
  Speaker 8: this billboard has been advertising a public meeting with Chris
• 22:15
  Speaker 8: Bishop and Christopher Luxeen in Lower Hut tonight. The billboard
• 22:19
  Speaker 8: was up just off the Pattorny foreshore. The hud City
• 22:22
  Speaker 8: Council told Bishop's office it was too big and in
• 22:25
  Speaker 8: the wrong spot. September five is, of course, when you're
• 22:29
  Speaker 8: going to get the typical election billboards popping up around
• 22:31
  Speaker 8: the country. This strip of grass is a very well
• 22:34
  Speaker 8: utilized area for candidates. So even though this is not
• 22:37
  Speaker 8: technically a Bishop for Huts, South billboard. The point is,
• 22:42
  Speaker 8: I suppose it could be mistaken for one, and apparently
• 22:44
  Speaker 8: it also breaches size rules and could be a potential
• 22:47
  Speaker 8: hazard for drivers. The council sent an urgent to removal
• 22:51
  Speaker 8: request last week, had to send a reminder yesterday morning,
• 22:54
  Speaker 8: and then it was down by the end of yesterday.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: How big is too big?
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  Speaker 2: Max?
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  Speaker 8: Well can give you the exact specifics, but I suppose
• 23:03
  Speaker 8: if you can't see the other lane coming back the
• 23:05
  Speaker 8: other way, or you can't see a turning lane, it's
• 23:07
  Speaker 8: too big.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: I couldn't give you a.
• 23:09
  Speaker 8: Six foot then make something up.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Carty's six foot, Okay, So just too big, that's all.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: It's what we've been told Max. Thank you. How's your weather?
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: Yeah, cloudy, Perry's with a few showers, strong Southerly's eleven.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Not that anyone will see the sun through Chris Bishop's space.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Good morning, Neva, Good morning right a manual. A local
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: board member has file a formal complaint of her allegations
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: of electoral.
• 23:33
  Speaker 9: Fraud that is correct, and also claims that she and
• 23:36
  Speaker 9: a whistleblower and now in physical danger. So this is
• 23:39
  Speaker 9: Raywyn Bunner. She received a text message warning her to
• 23:43
  Speaker 9: watch her back. This was after forwarding allegations of stolen
• 23:46
  Speaker 9: ballot papers to police and also to the Serious broad
• 23:49
  Speaker 9: Office last week. She's also claiming a gang hit has
• 23:53
  Speaker 9: been threatened against the whistleblower. He claims he was part
• 23:56
  Speaker 9: of a team that was instructed to collect all the
• 23:58
  Speaker 9: voting papers from properties across Muddleday were over seven nights
• 24:02
  Speaker 9: in October last year. So now we know that the
• 24:05
  Speaker 9: police they're taking this seriously. They're making inquiries and councils
• 24:09
  Speaker 9: also contacted the ECFO on this one as well. Sheep
• 24:12
  Speaker 9: has how our weather okay, maybe fine, apart from the
• 24:15
  Speaker 9: odd morning shower north of that Harbor Bridge fourteen the
• 24:17
  Speaker 9: high here in Auckland.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Nice one, thank you very much. Time is eighteen minutes
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: away from six loads of feedback coming in well on
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: a bunch of things. But let's do the bridge, am Ryan.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: There is another option reducing the traffic on the Harbor Bridge,
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: which is pretty common sense. This is from Mark who
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: lives on the north Shore. He says, if you live
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: on the north Shore, why don't you work there? Okay, Ryan,
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: imagine how long it will take for us to actually
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: build the damn thing. Don't beep around, get the Japanese
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: to build it far better technology, says another Ryan. Your
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: gut feeling is right, but a second bridge won't solve
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: the real problem. Currently we combine all northbound traffic with
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: those headed into the CBD in a massive bottleneck. The
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: solution is a tunnel can mimencing at the Mount Wellington
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: or Penrose Motorway exchange, joining the current and any future crossing,
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: be it a bridge or a tunnel. You heard it
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: here first, say is Owen? Thank you? Owen? Yeah. Look,
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: everyone's got an opinion on the bridge. I say we
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: should all just learn to swim, you know. And for
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: people who go on about cycling, can we not have
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: some kind of barge that goes across the harbor so
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: you bike too, and in the morning it's running every
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: ten minutes just across underneath the harbor bridge. You bike
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: down to what where would it be down underneath the
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: bridge on the Ponsonby side, Freeman's Bay? Get yourself down there,
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Saint Mary's Bay. I suppose it is more get yourself
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: to them with a bike, jump on a barge across
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: you go. Problem solve bobs, your uncle? What's there to
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: worry about? Sixteen to six News Talks.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: He'd be international correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance peace
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: of mind for New Zealand business.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: It is fourteen away from six. We'll tackle the bridge,
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: the tunnel, the waste of money situation in just a
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: few minutes. First, that's got to a done tomyow our
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  Speaker 3: Australia correspondent donn A good morning.
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: Oh, good morning to you.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Hey.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Loads of people are getting scammed by AI investments.
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: Fascinating.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: I find this.
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: Australian Securities and Investments Commission has just released a report.
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: It shows it removed nineteen thousand scams in the past
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: twelve months. Now that's an increase of Brace Yourself one
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: hundred and eighty two percent on the previous year. Now,
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: what these scams involve is these AI deep fakes, So
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: they use well known finance or political personalities and the
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: victims are basically directed to, say a dodgy fake news website,
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: then they're directed to an investment website from that and
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: eventually they lose their money. So who's getting caught up
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: in the AI deep fakes. We're talking about the Prime Minister,
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: We're talking about the opposition. Opposition leader Angus Taylor, even
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: biding their GENA Reinhart, Pauline Hansen and a very prominent
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: finance journalist called Alan Colo for the ABC. And so
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: what is happening is that the regulator says, you know,
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: it's becoming increasingly difficult to catch those responsible, and there
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: is a call for social media platforms where we see
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: these aid facs to crack down on the scammers using
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: their platform. But fascinating the amount of money that people
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: have lost via these fake websites and scams eight hundred
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: and thirty seven million dollars one year.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: It's so long money. Hey Donald, how's old elbow game
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: with us? Met with Mellingate? You know we talked about that.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Is he still copying plaque for that?
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: Look, the news cycle has moved on a smidge, but
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: I don't think we're ever going to forget it, are we?
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: That was quite an awkward, awkward thing to explain himself
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: out of.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: I would suggest very awkward and data every time I
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: see Taka each now on camera, the Japanese Prime Minister,
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: I'm just thinking of a malan thinking about emelons. Donna,
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: thank you very much, Donna. To Matrow Australia corresponded to twelve
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: away from six Ryan Bridge, a lot of wader to
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: go under the bridge, it would before Aukland gets another
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: harbor crossing.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Before committing to a preferred option, we need to properly
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: understand what should be built, what it will cost, how
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: it will.
• 28:09
  Speaker 13: Be funded and finance, and how it will be actually delivered.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what sounds fair enough, But we're getting a second
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: business case despite NZTA already completing an investment case which
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: preferred a tunnel. Final options expected twenty twenty seven. Richard
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Hill's Auckland or shaw Ward councilor with me this morning, Richard,
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: good morning, good morning. Hey. You know Wayne Brown's Meola
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: Reef thing?
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Is this?
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Is it ever going to happen?
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Are you even a little bit entertained by it?
• 28:36
  Speaker 14: Samar and I agree in a lot of things, but
• 28:39
  Speaker 14: let's just say this isn't now agree to disagree clause.
• 28:41
  Speaker 14: I don't think personally that meol Reef's a goer, especially
• 28:46
  Speaker 14: because there's nowhere for it to go.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: On the other side.
• 28:49
  Speaker 14: In my opinion, you can't put motorways through a bunch
• 28:52
  Speaker 14: of suburbs.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: So that's the main concern is what you link it
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: to and having to basically wipe out point chev As
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: opposed to do because his argument is, look, eighty percent
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: of the work is done for you, because eighty percent
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: of the crossing is a reef already and you only
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: got the twenty percent to go.
• 29:09
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean his point on do you build something
• 29:12
  Speaker 14: in the same corridor as the current bridge? Does that
• 29:16
  Speaker 14: make sense? And I understand that, but I just don't
• 29:20
  Speaker 14: think Meola going through communities on that side and then
• 29:24
  Speaker 14: the communities on my side of the bridge on you know,
• 29:27
  Speaker 14: through chats would Burkene beach Oven. I'm not just really
• 29:31
  Speaker 14: sure where it goes. So I think, you know, if
• 29:35
  Speaker 14: it is investigated as part of the long options, or
• 29:38
  Speaker 14: we can see what information the government already has on
• 29:40
  Speaker 14: it to rule it in or rule it out, that
• 29:42
  Speaker 14: would be helpful. But look, I personally don't agree with it.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: And the man knows that with.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: The study is can he make a captain's call and say, yeah,
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: we're going to put five hundred thousand into the study
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: and pay for half of it, Kenny.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
• 29:55
  Speaker 14: I mean, we don't have the research decision come to
• 29:58
  Speaker 14: the table if it's transport making the decision. I also
• 30:02
  Speaker 14: don't think it would cost a million dollars to show
• 30:06
  Speaker 14: that it will be.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: A very difficult route to take.
• 30:09
  Speaker 14: So, you know, if it can just be if the
• 30:12
  Speaker 14: information the government has because they said yesterday it's already
• 30:16
  Speaker 14: been ruled out, so can we just see that information.
• 30:18
  Speaker 14: I'm not sure why we need a million dollar another
• 30:21
  Speaker 14: plan to rule it out.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: It's a fair enough question too, Hey, is the problem
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: that is the problem the crossing or is the problem
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: that the getting onto the motorway?
• 30:32
  Speaker 14: It's I mean, I guess what the government's saying, and
• 30:35
  Speaker 14: I agree with The bridge is getting old and it
• 30:39
  Speaker 14: does need resilience, right, so it's going to need some
• 30:42
  Speaker 14: pretty big upgrades over the years, and it does close
• 30:46
  Speaker 14: when it's windy. So I understand that we do need
• 30:49
  Speaker 14: potentially another well, we do need another crossing in the future.
• 30:53
  Speaker 14: But my view, as someone who catches over mostly in
• 30:56
  Speaker 14: the bus each day, is that the actual bridge itself
• 30:59
  Speaker 14: is not conducted usually, but it's all the other parts
• 31:03
  Speaker 14: of the network, So the city center when you get
• 31:05
  Speaker 14: in there, all the on ramps heading into the city,
• 31:08
  Speaker 14: Esmond and anywhere, and Northcote Road, Tristram, all of those
• 31:12
  Speaker 14: points leading to the mode away are the issue.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: You're right, They're always completely rammed, which is the big problem. Richard,
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: thank you for that. Richard Hill's Auckland North Shore Ward
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Counselor eight to six News Talks head.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: B Ryan Bridge on early edition with Spark for Business
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Technology that keeps Business Moving. News Talks head.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: B six to six on the bridge. Ryan didn't Wayne
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Brown follow the Ali Williams and Ana Moobray Westmere debarcle.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: But how does he think he will get a bridge
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: through Point Sheev when they wouldn't let them land a helicopter?
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Now this is Ryan. Your idea for a barge taking
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: the cyclists across the Auckland Harbor won't work. How would
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: people see your likerisuit and how could they inconvenience traffic
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: if they're on a bar? Says Graham. Good morning, Graham,
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: it is five two Ryan Bread the morning. My god,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: it's boring, isn't it. I love this? Do you absolutely
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: love it? Bridges because well it's my last name. We
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: all use them, we all need them, we all need
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: to get.
• 32:10
  Speaker 13: Somewhere clicker because the rest of the country is listening
• 32:12
  Speaker 13: to this going Auckland yet again boring. The you know
• 32:14
  Speaker 13: what I mean, do you honestly believe in your lifetime
• 32:17
  Speaker 13: we're going to have another bridge.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: I didn't think in my lifetime I would see Transmission
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: Gully and there it.
• 32:22
  Speaker 13: Is here cools interesting, we could do this the bridge
• 32:26
  Speaker 13: however old the bridge is fifty seven or something, that
• 32:30
  Speaker 13: we could do it then, and yet now it's become
• 32:33
  Speaker 13: increasingly problematic.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: I looked at it video footages last night. It's on YouTube.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: You can watch them, you know, video footage of them
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: making the bridge. It's just a barge with a crane
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: on top and they just clip it together.
• 32:43
  Speaker 13: I got a letter from a former mayor of the
• 32:47
  Speaker 13: North Shore and also happened to be an MP. They
• 32:50
  Speaker 13: did all this in two thousand and eight, so the
• 32:53
  Speaker 13: case study has already been done, all done, and they
• 32:55
  Speaker 13: had he says, and I think in the letter I
• 32:57
  Speaker 13: can't remember, he said they came up with like ninety
• 32:59
  Speaker 13: options or something that that was like this this.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Mirrad, this miriehave the thing, very the thing.
• 33:04
  Speaker 13: So I was watching the Post Cabinet yesterday was with
• 33:06
  Speaker 13: Bishop explaining all of this and what they didn't drill.
• 33:09
  Speaker 13: They didn't get into them enough because the question was
• 33:12
  Speaker 13: asked one hundred million dollars or whatever the hell. So
• 33:16
  Speaker 13: he goes, well, there's a barge. For the first time ever,
• 33:18
  Speaker 13: we left our desk and we put a barge in
• 33:20
  Speaker 13: the water, and we had a look at what's under
• 33:21
  Speaker 13: the water. And I thought, fair enough, that's okay. But
• 33:24
  Speaker 13: that doesn't explain to me one hundred million dollars in
• 33:26
  Speaker 13: two and a half years.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: Well, fifty million it's over labor and national member fifty
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: million bike the bike bridge.
• 33:31
  Speaker 13: I get all of that, but at the end of
• 33:33
  Speaker 13: the day, there seems to be a lot of money
• 33:35
  Speaker 13: for not a lot of return. I wouldn't have thought
• 33:37
  Speaker 13: putting a barge in the water's one hundred million dollars.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: He very quick question. You know, when you're getting onto
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: the motorway and there are those traffic lights fade, don't
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  Speaker 3: you ignore them? Never there's no cameras there? Right, of course,
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  Speaker 3: not good? Did you do it? I I've started doing it.
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  Speaker 3: I used to I used to be.
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  Speaker 13: I thought, yep, no, I'll follow the rules, but then
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  Speaker 13: no one else does, and the whole thing's just on
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  Speaker 13: the way home. What happens is they've left the lights
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  Speaker 13: on even though there's no problem, and I just and
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  Speaker 13: just look, I've got better things.
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  Speaker 3: To do with my wife to the floor all the way.
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  Speaker 13: We're gun the V eight and we're into it.
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