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The Kenny Report | 28 July · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: This is the Kenny Report. Thanks for joining me.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight, Victoria gets its third premiere in three years, and
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  Speaker 2: Ben Carroll tries to disown the two premiers he served
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  Speaker 2: under in cabinet.
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  Speaker 1: I'll get the Victorian opposition's view.
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  Speaker 2: If you want to know how bad socialist left governments
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  Speaker 2: like Victoria's can get, you only need to look at
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  Speaker 2: New York City, which has gone all North Korea on US.
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  Speaker 2: I'll explain that and cross to Kristen Tate in the US.
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  Speaker 2: I'll also cross to the Northern Territory where there's plenty
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  Speaker 2: of crop madness afoot. You won't believe the risks that
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  Speaker 2: people are taking. Tim Blair will look at how the
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  Speaker 2: ABC's still having trouble saying sorry no matter how foul
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  Speaker 2: its sins are, and Stephen and Susie on plenty, including
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  Speaker 2: the Castle as a stage play.
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  Speaker 1: Tell them they're dreaming.
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  Speaker 2: So the country's second most populous state with a basket
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  Speaker 2: case of con Victoria has a new premier, but not
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  Speaker 2: much else has changed.
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  Speaker 1: And I suppose given this is the.
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  Speaker 2: Labor state government that paid more than four hundred million
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  Speaker 2: dollars of taxpayers money not to build a tunnel, and
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  Speaker 2: then paid more than five hundred million dollars not to
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  Speaker 2: host the Commonwealth Games. I guess it wasn't surprising that
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  Speaker 2: the new premier has taken the job not to be
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  Speaker 2: something too.
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  Speaker 3: Let me make one thing very clear. I am not
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  Speaker 3: Daniel Andrews. I am not just Ciner Allen.
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  Speaker 2: That's some selling point, isn't it. I'm not them? So
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  Speaker 2: who is Ben Carroll? Well, he's the new leader, chosen
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  Speaker 2: by the factions, even though he was a leading figure
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  Speaker 2: in the socialist left cabinets of Andrews and Allan. And
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  Speaker 2: while Allan presided over the biggest corruption scandal in the
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  Speaker 2: nation's history, with up to fifteen billion dollars of taxpayers
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  Speaker 2: money siphoned off by unions, their chosen contractors, bicky gangs
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  Speaker 2: and other criminal figures, she had refused to call a
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  Speaker 2: royal commission. So the new premier had an obvious place
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  Speaker 2: to start.
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  Speaker 3: We are saying enough is enough. In my government, integrity
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  Speaker 3: will not be optional. That is why my first action
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  Speaker 3: as Premier will be to call a royal commission into
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  Speaker 3: the construction sector.
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  Speaker 2: So apparently integrity has been optional for the past dozen
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  Speaker 2: years when he's been there in cabinet, but not anymore,
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  Speaker 2: since about midday, Victorian Labor reckons it can switch its
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  Speaker 2: fundamental values on and off at will, how insulting to voters.
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  Speaker 1: Surely this is too little, too late.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know anything about the inquiry hull it the
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  Speaker 2: terms of reference, and with the election only four months away,
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  Speaker 2: it's unlikely to unearth much before voters make their choice.
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  Speaker 2: The bottom line is that the unholy alliance between labor,
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  Speaker 2: the unions, the criminal gangs and their chosen contractors needs
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  Speaker 2: to be swept away, away from power, away from taxpayers money,
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  Speaker 2: and labor has reached such disarray and unpopularity that that
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  Speaker 2: now seems increasingly likely. In his first media conference, the
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  Speaker 2: new premier was already under siege.
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  Speaker 3: I've got a question time soon. You have any questions?
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  Speaker 4: He said, won't change?
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  Speaker 3: Were you shocked by the Attorney General throwing her hat
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  Speaker 3: in the ring and will she still stay in the
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  Speaker 3: Attorney General?
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  Speaker 5: What she did?
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  Speaker 3: My intention is to lead a strong and united team
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  Speaker 3: to the election.
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  Speaker 1: Samaya can have the last question.
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  Speaker 3: Seeing yep pop short.
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  Speaker 2: And when a question went to his deputy, he couldn't
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  Speaker 2: get out.
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  Speaker 1: Of frame quickly enough, could he.
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  Speaker 2: Just hours after Allen resigned and Carroll was sworn in.
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  Speaker 2: The new premier faced Opposition Leader Jess Wilson in Parliament.
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  Speaker 6: When will the Premier look Victorians in the eye and
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  Speaker 6: apologize for deceiving his daughter and demonstrating he lacks the
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  Speaker 6: necessary integrity to govern Victoria.
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  Speaker 3: I think someone's a little bit upset over there. I
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  Speaker 3: think someone has realized the fresh start to up was
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  Speaker 3: the false start tour.
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  Speaker 1: Surely Labour's switch won't save it. We will see.
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  Speaker 2: The wild card is one nation polling almost one in
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  Speaker 2: five votes even without candidates announced. If votes and preferences
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  Speaker 2: spray around, Labor will hold out some hope of hanging
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  Speaker 2: on in an ugly alliance with the Greens. Victoria has
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  Speaker 2: the high unemployment of all states in this country, the
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  Speaker 2: highest debt, the highest taxes, the lowest growth.
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  Speaker 1: It really is a mess. It needs a change.
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  Speaker 2: It needs spending curtailed, government waste, curbed, corruption attacked, crime tackled,
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  Speaker 2: and a fresh and optimistic start. But Labor for a
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  Speaker 2: long while, remained hung up on identity issues. Just a
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  Speaker 2: few weeks ago, Carol was backing his female premium.
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  Speaker 3: I've got a young daughter at home and I couldn't
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  Speaker 3: be more proud to make sure she grows up knowing
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  Speaker 3: that I supported j Cinter Allen.
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  Speaker 2: And even on her way out, Allan was focused on
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  Speaker 2: gender as her strongest suit.
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  Speaker 7: I'm proud to be Victoria's second female premier and there
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  Speaker 7: have absolutely been moments when it's been hard and it's
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  Speaker 7: been personal, but the chance to make a difference was
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  Speaker 7: worth it.
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  Speaker 4: And if you're a woman.
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  Speaker 7: Making your start in politics, let me say this to
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  Speaker 7: you today. Please don't look at what I have experienced
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  Speaker 7: this week and think stuff that I don't want to
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  Speaker 7: be involved. Look at the support I've experienced over my
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  Speaker 7: career and think I can make a difference here too.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there is one woman who could make a difference
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  Speaker 2: to Victoria. I mean Victorian Labor has twice installed female
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  Speaker 2: premiers when the male premiers were unsalvagible, but Victoria has
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  Speaker 2: never elected a woman into the top job.
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  Speaker 6: The Labor Party does not have the guts to admit
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  Speaker 6: the depth and breadth of their failures. Deputy Speaker, this
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  Speaker 6: government have forfeited its moral authority to govern.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Victorian voters will have the opportunity to elect a woman.
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  Speaker 2: To elect a woman as premier for the first time
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  Speaker 2: in November Jess Wilson and the Liberals could create history.
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  Speaker 2: The Liberals will have to work hard, remain focused, and
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  Speaker 2: not for an instant give the impression they have this
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  Speaker 2: one in the bag. But there's no doubt that today's
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  Speaker 2: shambolic and desperate labour switch could only have improved their prospects.
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  Speaker 2: If you want to see how bad Victoria and Australia
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  Speaker 2: could get under labor, if you want to see how
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  Speaker 2: insane the socialist left can be, then you just need
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  Speaker 2: to look at the madness unfolding in New York City.
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  Speaker 2: The ALP is a democratic socialist party, it says so right.
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  Speaker 1: There in their platform.
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  Speaker 2: And the Victorian government has been as left wing as
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  Speaker 2: any government this country has ever seen. And the trouble
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  Speaker 2: is that three decades after the Soviet Union collapsed and
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  Speaker 2: the Berlin Wall came down, too many people have either
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  Speaker 2: forgotten the lessons or never learned them.
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  Speaker 1: And so in New York City, right.
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  Speaker 2: Now, under new hard left Mayor Zor and Mamdani, this city,
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  Speaker 2: the city that is the basting of global capitalism, is
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  Speaker 2: opening government run grocery stores.
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  Speaker 8: Today.
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  Speaker 9: I am proud to announce a collection of essential staples
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  Speaker 9: that will be predictably thirty percent cheaper at all five
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  Speaker 9: of our city run grocery stores.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a.
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  Speaker 2: Little bit of North Korea coming to the city that
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  Speaker 2: never sleeps.
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  Speaker 1: Have a look at some local reporting.
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  Speaker 9: For anyone wondering how much these beautiful plantains might cost,
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  Speaker 9: You can use this QR code.
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  Speaker 10: With some showmanship. Mayor Zorun Mamdani announced that fresh produce
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  Speaker 10: and other important staples that his government supported grocery stores
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  Speaker 10: would be thirty percent off the market price, recalibrated monthly.
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  Speaker 9: No exceptions, no gimmicks. Things will last for the entire month.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the city government runs the store, it pies the stuff,
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  Speaker 2: and it cuts the process by thirty percent.
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  Speaker 1: What could go wrong? Well, a lot, of course.
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  Speaker 10: And there remains concerns that mom and popodegas will not
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  Speaker 10: be able to compete with these stores. The city is
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  Speaker 10: attempting to offset some of that by not allowing government
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  Speaker 10: run grocers to sell hot food, alcohol, and cigarettes, where
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  Speaker 10: smaller corner stores make most of their money.
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  Speaker 11: Police is like, this are the lifeblood of our community
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  Speaker 11: and at the end of.
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  Speaker 1: The day, if we don't keep them open, we're giving
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  Speaker 1: into the source of capitalism that's destroying our community as
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  Speaker 1: a whole.
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  Speaker 2: This is quite extraordinary, isn't it. It's a clear demonstration
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  Speaker 2: of how far left the Democrats have drifted. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: listen to Mam Dami explain why the economics.
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  Speaker 9: So we've talked about five city around grocery stores, one
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  Speaker 9: in each borough, and thus far we've announced La Marque
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  Speaker 9: at the in Manhattan and La Peninsula in the Bronx.
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  Speaker 9: And these two sites showcase the example of when you
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  Speaker 9: are speaking about a dense neighborhood, there is more than
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  Speaker 9: enough market for both existing grocers as well as one
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  Speaker 9: city run grocery store.
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  Speaker 2: So just a little bit of communism won't hurt Hey.
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  Speaker 2: This undermines the economic fundamentals of existing stores. It adds
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  Speaker 2: to the costs on taxpayers who have to cover the
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  Speaker 2: costs and the losses of these stores. And it extends
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  Speaker 2: the hand of government into a new area, now supplying
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  Speaker 2: and pricing your food. It's more likely to lead to
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  Speaker 2: food shortages than.
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  Speaker 1: A lower cost of living.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe Mamdami will one day see breadlines like we used
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  Speaker 2: to see in Soviet Russia as the private stores closed
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  Speaker 2: down and everyone waits for the government supplied groceries. It's
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  Speaker 2: as though the political left have had their minds wiped
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  Speaker 2: of all memory of all the lessons of human history.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if the government can deliver cheaper groceries, why
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  Speaker 2: not government car yards to sell us new cars at
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  Speaker 2: a thirty percent discount?
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  Speaker 1: And what about electronic gear?
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  Speaker 2: Why not government subsidized TVs and phones as well? Perhaps
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  Speaker 2: we could get government clothing stores like the one in
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  Speaker 2: the former East Germany where I got the worst pair
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  Speaker 2: of trousers I've ever worn. But where this lunacy from
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  Speaker 2: Mambani and his supporters. It springs from the eternal sunshine
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  Speaker 2: of the ignorant leftist mind, and the Albanezi labor government
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  Speaker 2: isn't too far distant from this crazy big government North
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  Speaker 2: Korean approach. Remember, they think the government can solve the
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  Speaker 2: housing crisis by building more public housing while increasing taxes
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  Speaker 2: on priving private housing investment. If socialism can ship away
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  Speaker 2: at New York City, the global capital of private enterprise,
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  Speaker 2: it surely can to mine us anywhere. Let's hope our
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  Speaker 2: country comes to its census before we're all lining up
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  Speaker 2: for Albaniza's union banked, union delivered government issue bred rolls.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go live to Victoria now and catch up with
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  Speaker 2: the Shadow Police Minister Brad Baton. Thanks for joining us, Brad,
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  Speaker 2: you must be pretty rapped about the chaos that the
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  Speaker 2: Labor governors enveloped itself in.
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  Speaker 8: Thanks ye, Chris.
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  Speaker 12: I wish I could sales wrapped, but we actually know
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  Speaker 12: that this is a about outcome. This is a government
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  Speaker 12: in chaos. The only way that I would be rapped
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  Speaker 12: or excited is if the people who in the Labor
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  Speaker 12: Party have tried to make a move to get rid
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  Speaker 12: of the former premier had any real courage they join
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  Speaker 12: us for our voting no confidence so we can go
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  Speaker 12: to an election sooner. Then the Victorian people can make
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  Speaker 12: a decision because at the moment we've got our second
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  Speaker 12: premier in a row that's been decided behind the Australian
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  Speaker 12: Ceatar doors inside the Labor Corps, without any influence from
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  Speaker 12: the Victorian community.
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  Speaker 1: They deserve so much better.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to a couple of issues here. One
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  Speaker 2: of them is the Royal Commission under the construction issue.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously this is something desperately needed in Victoria. But for
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  Speaker 2: the government to announce they'll hold it now the last
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  Speaker 2: moments after they've changed premier, wouldn't you be seeking a
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  Speaker 2: commitment from them to wait on that till after the election,
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  Speaker 2: so whoever forms the new government can appoint the commissioner
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  Speaker 2: and frame the terms of reference.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, look, we're with you here to come out now
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  Speaker 12: at the very end and say we're holding a Royal commission.
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  Speaker 12: Ben Carroll, who was the Deputy Premier, who has backed
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  Speaker 12: not having a Royal Commission four years, has now come
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  Speaker 12: out and said, all of a sudden, but he needs
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  Speaker 12: to make this change.
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  Speaker 8: Let's be honest.
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  Speaker 12: It's because of polling, it's nothing else. It's not because
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  Speaker 12: he wants to get rid of corruption. It's not because
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  Speaker 12: integrity is not optional in his not an option under him.
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  Speaker 12: They've been saying that for years. We need a Royal
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  Speaker 12: Commission that is a real role commission that can look
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  Speaker 12: into the premier all the way down, any minister and
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  Speaker 12: any government department. We don't want anything which they put
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  Speaker 12: in place they could protect them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I would have thought that is the least that Victorians deserve,
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  Speaker 2: either a raw commission where there is bipartisan support on
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  Speaker 2: the details, or one that waits till after the election
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  Speaker 2: to get those details on the table.
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  Speaker 1: I want to pick up on something else.
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  Speaker 2: That the outgoing premier just said to Allen said today
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  Speaker 2: in a press conference and jump out at me because
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  Speaker 2: it seemed to be completely the opposite to reality.
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  Speaker 7: Have a look, I inherited a rising crime rate. My
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  Speaker 7: team and I toughened bay A laws, started adult time,
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  Speaker 7: introduced the Violence Reduction Unit. Crime is now falling for
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  Speaker 7: the first time since COVID.
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  Speaker 1: Crime is falling under the labor government in Victoria.
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  Speaker 2: All the statistics I've seen Brad Batton show the opposite part.
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  Speaker 12: Theft in Victoria has in gone up eighty five four percent,
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  Speaker 12: and it was such a big increase here in Victoria
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  Speaker 12: that the average across the entire nation has increased, even
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  Speaker 12: though every other state's seen a decline. And what you've
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  Speaker 12: see not only is this pre of the former premier
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  Speaker 12: now saying I inherited all these problems and it's not
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  Speaker 12: my fault. The new premier is saying, I'm not just
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  Speaker 12: into Allen, I'm not Daniel Andrews.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 12: We asked Ben Carroll, who are you Because you've backed
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  Speaker 12: them to ensure you kept your white car, you kept
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  Speaker 12: your pay, and you kept your job, but not once
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  Speaker 12: to just stand up for Victorian people. We know who
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  Speaker 12: you are. You're just an absolute role gold model of
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  Speaker 12: what's been there in the past, and probably worse.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you got four intense months to go before the election.
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  Speaker 2: You'll need to work hard and never assume that you've
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  Speaker 2: got a vote in your pocket. But you must be
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  Speaker 2: worried about the fracturing, the splintering of the right of
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  Speaker 2: center vote. One Nation still polling close to one in
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  Speaker 2: five in Victoria at the moment. How are you going
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  Speaker 2: to make sure that as a coalition or even in
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  Speaker 2: some sort of a deal with One Nation, you actually
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  Speaker 2: get enough seats to get rid of this government.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm pretty confident. I've seen the work Jess has
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  Speaker 12: been doing, going around the state eighty eight seats, thirty
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  Speaker 12: six days, speaking to local communities, putting forward policies around crime,
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  Speaker 12: around cost of living, around debt reduction. These are all the
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  Speaker 12: things people are really worried about. And as we move
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  Speaker 12: towards an election, we will make sure that Victorians know
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  Speaker 12: not only is there a bad government, the only way
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  Speaker 12: to see genuine improvement is a Liberals and Nationals government.
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  Speaker 12: Here in Victoria. We've had a coalition for a long
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  Speaker 12: period of time and we'll continue that and I would
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  Speaker 12: just say to Victorian people, you've got to have faith
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  Speaker 12: in the fact of Jess Wilson, Danny O'Brien and our
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  Speaker 12: team that we can do what we're promising to deliver
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  Speaker 12: because we know that we can reduce debt, we know
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  Speaker 12: we can keep you safer, and we know we can
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  Speaker 12: fix the median potholes that need to be fixed across
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  Speaker 12: this state.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Brad, I appreciate it, Brad Batten.
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  Speaker 2: There is the shadow Police Minister in Victoria joining me
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  Speaker 2: on the desk. Now is the Shadow Assistant Minister for Citizenship,
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  Speaker 2: Dave Sharma. Good to see you again, Dave. Looking at Victoria,
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  Speaker 2: what's on folding there? It has been a basket case.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think anyone could objectively argue with that. When
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  Speaker 2: you look at the economic statistics in Victoria and the
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  Speaker 2: corruption not just allegations but findings there. The Liberals and
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  Speaker 2: the Nationals need to make sure there's a change of government.
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  Speaker 2: You must be worried that with the one nation factor,
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  Speaker 2: that could be jeopardized.
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  Speaker 13: Look, I think you know elections are difficult to win
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  Speaker 13: these days and the vote is under pressure, but I
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  Speaker 13: think without question, this is the worst government in the
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  Speaker 13: worst performing state in Australia. They've taken Victoria to new
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  Speaker 13: lives and new depths and I don't know how many
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  Speaker 13: Victorians I've spoken to who are deeply frustrated about how
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  Speaker 13: poor the economy is, how poor the law and order
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  Speaker 13: situation is, how terrible the business environment is, and the
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  Speaker 13: levels of corruption by the CFMU documented by media, which
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  Speaker 13: the Alan government steadfastly refused to concede or even call
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  Speaker 13: the Royal Commission into until today.
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  Speaker 2: I suppose this is the interesting thing about what Ben
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  Speaker 2: Carroll has done here. He's conceded, really that this is
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  Speaker 2: a massive corruption issue because he's agreed to have a
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  Speaker 2: Royal Commission.
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  Speaker 1: Now we won't see any action from that. We don't
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  Speaker 1: need the detail. But he's admitted that this is a
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  Speaker 1: massive problem.
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  Speaker 2: But he's been in government, he's been in cabinet all
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  Speaker 2: these years, stonewalling no.
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  Speaker 13: I think one of the most telling phrases he used
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  Speaker 13: today was integrity will no longer be optional. Rightly, he
• 18:18
  Speaker 13: has been optional for last WEECAD, which suggests that the
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  Speaker 13: last decade the governments of which he's been a part,
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  Speaker 13: integrity has been something you throw out the window when
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  Speaker 13: you do a deal with the CFMU.
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  Speaker 1: Now it's coming back in. I mean, surely the government
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  Speaker 1: should have always been. I don't think he can.
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  Speaker 13: I don't think he can convince Victorians that this is
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  Speaker 13: somehow turning over a new leaf. This is a desperate
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  Speaker 13: play by a Labor government that is desperately unpopular and
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  Speaker 13: deserves the verdict that the electorate will soon deliver.
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  Speaker 2: I've got to say the next couple of hours with
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  Speaker 2: Peter Quendlin and Andrew Bolt coming from Victoria. Of course
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: they understand Victorian politics much more than me. I've never
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: lived there, but to me, they are in much worse
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: position now because of those two points. He's conceded the
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: corruption problem by saying there'll be a royal commission.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: And then he says integrity he's no longer optional.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: After twelve years in power, integrity comes back supposedly.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: For the last four months. It is extraordinary.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: But getting back to what I kicked off the show
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: about talking about the socialist left, looking at Mam Dharmi
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: and the Albanzi government and the labor government Victoria, the
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: constant to drift towards government intervention and the like.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: We're getting that again from Albanizi.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Now, with this four million dollar study over an oil refinery,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: can't they just open this up to the private sector.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Why is the government, why taxpayers having to spend the
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: money to try and prove up a private investment.
• 19:35
  Speaker 13: Well, I think this is the sort of thing you
• 19:37
  Speaker 13: should just put out to tender, right, you know, and
• 19:39
  Speaker 13: if the government needs to underwrite or conclude an off
• 19:41
  Speaker 13: take agreement or do something, then you let the market
• 19:44
  Speaker 13: determine what the government involvement or taxpayer involvement is necessary.
• 19:47
  Speaker 13: But it seems like an announcement that isn't really going
• 19:50
  Speaker 13: to go anywhere because all it's going to do is
• 19:52
  Speaker 13: you know that he's commencing with the study.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Who knows where it will lead.
• 19:55
  Speaker 13: It looks like it's in something that's dressed up as
• 19:57
  Speaker 13: something significant for our fuel security needs, but is unlikely
• 20:00
  Speaker 13: to deliver anything anytime soon.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very odd. Here's the Prime minister today.
• 20:06
  Speaker 14: The world is very much an uncertain place and if
• 20:09
  Speaker 14: Australia just remains at the end of supply chains, then
• 20:12
  Speaker 14: that makes us more vulnerable, which is why the key
• 20:16
  Speaker 14: to our budget was making us small, resilient, more self
• 20:19
  Speaker 14: reliant as well as promoting reform.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Look, the idea that you'd have one reform run one
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: extra refinery and it's in Western Australia doesn't too much.
• 20:29
  Speaker 8: To help the East Coast.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Now it is the government that's doing everything that can
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: with subsidies and other policies to reduce our reliance on
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: fossil fuels anyway, So they're sort of conflicted by their
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: own policy our aims.
• 20:42
  Speaker 13: Oh, I think that's right, and I think look, you
• 20:44
  Speaker 13: know we had as little as twenty years ago. I
• 20:46
  Speaker 13: think there are eight refineries operating in Australia, went now
• 20:48
  Speaker 13: down to two. One in the West Coast is not
• 20:50
  Speaker 13: going to service in the East Coast market. That the
• 20:52
  Speaker 13: cost of transportation will make it prohibitively expensive, just like
• 20:55
  Speaker 13: the gas markets are distinct as well. So I don't
• 20:57
  Speaker 13: think this is going to do anything to address Australia's
• 21:01
  Speaker 13: liquid fuel dependency on outside sources, which we as shown
• 21:05
  Speaker 13: to be a particular vulnerability for us.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Just before I let you go, I want to plug
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: into your expertise on foreign policy and national security and
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: the ALP conference. We've talked about this and had I
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: had Michael Danby on on here last night talking.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: About the terrible diplomacy here and the like.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: But in your estimation, the stand that Labor has taken
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: at the backward step it's taken at its national conference,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: does that further week in our national security at home?
• 21:31
  Speaker 13: I think it does. I think it's defies credibility. I
• 21:34
  Speaker 13: mean they had I think there's nine paragraphs, four hundred
• 21:36
  Speaker 13: words on the Israeli Palestinian dispute. All of it was
• 21:39
  Speaker 13: about things Israel must do. No condemnation of the seventh
• 21:42
  Speaker 13: of October, her must terrorist attacks. Bear in mind this
• 21:45
  Speaker 13: is the first time the alp conference has met since.
• 21:48
  Speaker 13: No condemnation of that, and all the so called conditions
• 21:51
  Speaker 13: that Albaneze put around for the recognition of Palestine are reformed,
• 21:54
  Speaker 13: PA fresh elections, her must disarming, playing no future on
• 21:57
  Speaker 13: in government, They've all gone out the window. Jettison by
• 21:59
  Speaker 13: the Labor Conference. I think it just shows we're not
• 22:02
  Speaker 13: a serious play and this platform is binding on the
• 22:04
  Speaker 13: government's how the Labor Party works. They can't defy the platform,
• 22:08
  Speaker 13: they can't ignore the platform.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: So it's given sucker to extremists.
• 22:11
  Speaker 8: I think so.
• 22:12
  Speaker 13: Even further on top of what Albinizi did by unilaterally
• 22:16
  Speaker 13: recognizing a Palestine in s absent any of this progress
• 22:19
  Speaker 13: last year.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: It's a deep worry.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Dave, Thanks so much, Senator Dave Shama,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: their liberal Senator for New South Wales.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: So you're going to get to a break.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: On the other side, I'm going to cross to the
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: northern territory where there's plenty of croc madness afoot. You
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: won't believe the ridiculous risks that people are taking. Now,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: we all love the occasional croc story from the territory,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: but too often the croc stories are tragic and you
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: won't believe the risks that some people are taking. Kale's
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Crossing in the Kakadu National Park is about a three
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: and a half hour drive east of Darwin. It's become
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: famous as a sightseeing spot for tourists who want to
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: see crocs in the wild, but have a look at this.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: One family takes its kids dangerously close to the kroc
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: infested water.
• 23:06
  Speaker 15: Now fine, oh no, go, no, where that ts to do?
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I'm cheapest.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Let's catch up again with David McMahon, the head tour
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: guy that Venture North Safaris.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: He joins us live from Darwin.
• 23:28
  Speaker 8: Good to talk to you.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Again, David.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: We've caught up with you before on a couple of issues,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: but also on Carl's crossing.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: You know it well and you know the crocodile behavior world.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Just how dangerous is that having small children down on
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: the effectively the ramp into the ford.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:47
  Speaker 16: Look, this is an extraordinary example of stupidity. There's two
• 23:51
  Speaker 16: beautiful viewing platforms, one upstream, one downstream to see the
• 23:55
  Speaker 16: tide come in and see the crocodiles at work.
• 23:58
  Speaker 11: It has to be noted here that crocodile, well, whilst it.
• 24:00
  Speaker 16: Looks like it's got to tell on the children, a
• 24:02
  Speaker 16: fellow'd caught a fish and it was honed in on
• 24:04
  Speaker 16: that fish.
• 24:05
  Speaker 11: But it would be so easy for that focus to switch.
• 24:08
  Speaker 16: To the kids. All it would take is one of
• 24:09
  Speaker 16: those kids to trip and fall and present themselves.
• 24:11
  Speaker 11: As a target.
• 24:13
  Speaker 16: Thankfully, crocodiles aren't mindless killing machines, otherwise there'd be a
• 24:16
  Speaker 16: fatality that crossing every other week.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, tell us about so obviously there's a crocodile they
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: can see, there is there a risk that there will
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: be other crocodiles lurking there that they can't see. And
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: also give us an idea of just how quickly they
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: could move. We know they can move like lightning in
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: the water, but what about if they got up onto
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: the road there, onto the ramp, could they still go
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: pretty quickly.
• 24:36
  Speaker 11: Yeah, it's not just the risk of another crocodile there.
• 24:39
  Speaker 16: There is absolute certainty that there's not just one other crocodile.
• 24:42
  Speaker 16: They can be up to thirty or forty crocodiles at
• 24:44
  Speaker 16: that crossing. As the tide pushes in, the fish move upstream.
• 24:48
  Speaker 16: It's a spot where crocodiles aggregate. So it's got to
• 24:52
  Speaker 16: be one of the most dangerous places to do behavior
• 24:56
  Speaker 16: like this anywhere in the Northern Territory. And yeah, it's
• 25:00
  Speaker 16: just I mean, watching this, it just boggles the mind
• 25:03
  Speaker 16: that parents would let their children be so close to
• 25:06
  Speaker 16: the water, because crocodiles can move extremely fast.
• 25:09
  Speaker 11: They've got what's called extreme fast twitch muscle.
• 25:12
  Speaker 16: They can not only move quick in the water that first,
• 25:14
  Speaker 16: you know, a couple of meters out of the water,
• 25:16
  Speaker 16: they can burst out and that kid would be taken
• 25:18
  Speaker 16: before anyone could do anything about it.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, god, yeah, I mean I can see the attraction
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: of being there.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: I'd love to go there myself and watch things from
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: it from a high drive vantage point or the car
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: going across, but the idea that people will get down
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: close to the water like that, and as you say,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: with the kids, you know parents having small children there
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: who've obviously got no idea. It's just such a worry
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: and that's one of the reasons I wanted to catch
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: up with you again, just to spread the message because
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: a lot of people head up there at this time
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: of the year.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:47
  Speaker 16: Look, there's signs everywhere and there's really amazing viewing platforms,
• 25:52
  Speaker 16: the infrastructure, there's fantastic to watch the show.
• 25:54
  Speaker 11: It's such a it's a must place if you're in
• 25:56
  Speaker 11: Kakadu National Park.
• 25:57
  Speaker 16: Watch the crocodiles feeding on the mullet and aramundi as
• 26:00
  Speaker 16: they push up stream. You see cars crossing the crossing
• 26:03
  Speaker 16: eye cross it every week. Usually there's a heap of
• 26:05
  Speaker 16: people doing the right thing up on the viewing platform,
• 26:07
  Speaker 16: but all too often we're seeing people not listening to
• 26:11
  Speaker 16: those rules and putting their lives at risk. And it's
• 26:14
  Speaker 16: not just that, you know, like if a crocodile takes
• 26:16
  Speaker 16: a kid, some poor ranger then has to go and
• 26:18
  Speaker 16: retrieve the body of a child from a crocodile, a
• 26:22
  Speaker 16: color heap of crocodiles.
• 26:24
  Speaker 11: You know, we're lucky to have so many crocodiles up here.
• 26:26
  Speaker 16: It's a it's a wild part of the world and
• 26:28
  Speaker 16: it's important we just listen and do the right thing.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: I want to get your thoughts on another bit of
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: vision where a bloke has been filmed on the Merry
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: River obviously lost contact with his boat in some way
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: and decided to swim off, swim across and get to
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: his boat. Tell us about the risks of this little
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: this little splash.
• 26:47
  Speaker 11: Yeah, that's another level again.
• 26:49
  Speaker 16: You know, it's it's reckless to have the children that
• 26:52
  Speaker 16: close to the water. It is absolutely next level insanity
• 26:57
  Speaker 16: to be in the water, especially on the Merry River.
• 27:00
  Speaker 16: The Mery River has more crocodiles than anywhere else in
• 27:03
  Speaker 16: their range. Saltwater crocodiles. We get them up here in
• 27:05
  Speaker 16: northern Australia. They found all the way up to the
• 27:07
  Speaker 16: east coast of India. So they found in lots of
• 27:09
  Speaker 16: parts of the world. Nowhere are they in the numbers.
• 27:11
  Speaker 16: They are on the Merry River. And this guy, rather
• 27:13
  Speaker 16: than just waiting on another boat to come past and
• 27:16
  Speaker 16: give him a hand it's not tidal, it's fresh water.
• 27:18
  Speaker 16: D have all the time in the world. The boat's
• 27:19
  Speaker 16: not going anywhere, and he decided to hop in the water. Geez,
• 27:23
  Speaker 16: he is lucky not to be taken by a crocodile.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Unbelievable, unbelievable. Thanks so much for joining us, David really
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: appreciate it. Lavid McMahon there with Venture North Safari's joining
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: us live from Darwin. Listen to people like him and
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Bay the signs in place. These are pretty dangerous creatures.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: I'm going to take a break after that. We're going
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: to catch up with Tim Blair.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: On the ABC.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: They never seem to be able to say sorry, no
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: matter how foul their sins are. I'm going to catch
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: up with the Daily Telegraphs Tim Blair in just a moment.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: But first up, I just want to show you something
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: that went to wear on the ABC just over a
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: week week ago. Andrew Bolt has highlighted this. I hadn't
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: played it before because Andrew was all over it.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: This is a race around the world is the.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Program they call young filmmakers doing stories around the world
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: and being judged and appropos of nothing. Have a look
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: what they have a listen to what they throw into
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: this little yarn.
• 28:19
  Speaker 17: If you follow all these steps, all of your problems
• 28:23
  Speaker 17: will will probably still be there, but you'll have these
• 28:29
  Speaker 17: skills because when the revolution comes, will you hide under
• 28:34
  Speaker 17: your bed or will you know exactly how to shove
• 28:38
  Speaker 17: a stick right off Gena Reinhart's buttthole?
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: And that's just the start.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: That image goes on further to describe horrific injuries to
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: be done to Gina Reinhart. Let's go to Timblair now
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: in Western Victoria. Tim, this is just extraordinary, just a
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: foul and vicious assault on Gina rhight have for no reason,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: There was no comedic reason or whatever. It was completely
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: at odds with the film. But the ABC has stood
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: by this. They said, there's nothing to apologize for.
• 29:11
  Speaker 18: There's several levels of shock here, aren't there, Chris. One
• 29:14
  Speaker 18: is that that statement was made. The second was that
• 29:17
  Speaker 18: it went through multiple layers of editing and production before
• 29:20
  Speaker 18: it went to wear. That wasn't anything that was live,
• 29:23
  Speaker 18: obviously it was recorded and scheduled. And then the third
• 29:28
  Speaker 18: shock is that they didn't back down once attention was
• 29:30
  Speaker 18: called to it. They've stood by it and said, oh no,
• 29:32
  Speaker 18: just a joke, no harm done. This is what it
• 29:39
  Speaker 18: with News twenty four. Here we are, we're answerable to
• 29:42
  Speaker 18: the market. We have advertisers. If you know, people take
• 29:46
  Speaker 18: issue with what we say, the market takes care of it.
• 29:49
  Speaker 18: The ABC, being outside of the marketplace, being purely government funded,
• 29:54
  Speaker 18: it can afford literally afford. The word is important here.
• 29:59
  Speaker 18: They keep their lind dollar funding no matter what breaches
• 30:02
  Speaker 18: of decency and civilization they commit. And this, i'd say,
• 30:06
  Speaker 18: is the ultimate example. Not even an apology, and not
• 30:09
  Speaker 18: the apology would even cost them anything, but they just
• 30:11
  Speaker 18: I mean, you might say they're abusing the privilege a
• 30:14
  Speaker 18: little bit, Chris.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: I think so if I made a joke about an
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: ABC female presenter or a politician along these lines on
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: air on this station, had people obviously complained and I said, no, no,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: it's okay, I was only joking, it would count for nothing.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: I would be sacked, and I should be sacked.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: It's disgraceful.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Instead, let's have a look at this response from the ABC.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: They put out a statement to people complaining about it,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: and they said that all ABC material is subject to
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: editorial standards, policies and processes, but this film was intended
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: to be satirical in tone, and therefore it was editorial
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: editorially justifiable within the context of the program. Yet even
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: one of the judges of this film said, hang on
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: the the film was supposed to be about hippie being
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: showing love and peace, but only hatred and violence towards
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Gina Rehinhart.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: And why well, because she's a hate figure of the left.
• 31:10
  Speaker 18: Presumably it's there's no protections when you like that. I imagine,
• 31:17
  Speaker 18: imagine what might happen though, Chris, if a contestant on
• 31:20
  Speaker 18: this show, one of their films showed them saying that
• 31:22
  Speaker 18: a man cannot become a woman, well, that might get it.
• 31:25
  Speaker 18: That might be something in a bit of trouble, wouldn't it.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't get past the census.
• 31:30
  Speaker 18: Rather than fantasizing about murdering a woman, which is apparently
• 31:33
  Speaker 18: okay if you say that a man cannot become a woman,
• 31:35
  Speaker 18: Oh my word, you've been a lot of strife down
• 31:37
  Speaker 18: at the ABSC Now.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: The other thing that I thought was quite instructive about
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: the whole mindset, the whole green left bias of the
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: public broadcasters was that one of the other judges on
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: this panel works for SBS, and here's what he had
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: to say in assessing this film.
• 31:55
  Speaker 19: By the way, I'm currently in trouble for a Gina
• 31:59
  Speaker 19: Reinhart joke I made on in an SBS program and
• 32:03
  Speaker 19: it's currently working its way through the on Budsman, so
• 32:07
  Speaker 19: you can look forward to that.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Well, it's so funny they're all attacking Gina Reinhardt on
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: our corn.
• 32:19
  Speaker 18: Hasn't John Saffern come a long way? Still on the
• 32:22
  Speaker 18: same show thirty years thirty years later.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: On the same show.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Well spotted now also you've picked up the ABC on
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: something in your column. This is a classic. We'll go
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: to the graphic now of how the Foreign Correspondent Program
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: is promoting its story on the evs in China. It says,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: across the country electric cars Australians might consider to be
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: luxury items and our standard issue vehicles in China, massage seats,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: big screens and even fridges are the minimum requirement for
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Chinese EV drivers. And with charging stations at shopping centers
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: that can recharge a battery in under five minutes, there's
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: no such things range anxiety. My goodness, how happy we
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: would all be, Jim living in the People's Republic of China.
• 33:07
  Speaker 18: This is propaganda on the same level as Soviet propaganda
• 33:10
  Speaker 18: from the during the Cold War times. You know record
• 33:13
  Speaker 18: breaking turnip crops. You know tractor Factory seven has got
• 33:16
  Speaker 18: record breaking output. Everyone is happy as can be. Besides
• 33:23
  Speaker 18: the propaganda propaganda element of this reporting is the fact
• 33:26
  Speaker 18: that it's such terrible reporting. All of these claims about
• 33:29
  Speaker 18: every luxury, every creature company is available in this cart
• 33:33
  Speaker 18: No the most popular, the standard. The basic vehicle in
• 33:37
  Speaker 18: China is literally a basic vehicle. It's not loaded up
• 33:41
  Speaker 18: with all the extras that the ABC is claiming, as
• 33:43
  Speaker 18: you'd expect given the China the average wage is about
• 33:47
  Speaker 18: a quarter of what it is here. They can't afford
• 33:49
  Speaker 18: all the luxury stuff. And that was checkable within about
• 33:52
  Speaker 18: thirty seconds of hitting Google on that one. So well done, ABC.
• 33:56
  Speaker 8: It's lovely Tim.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Today is that we pay our taxes so the ABC
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: can promote Chinese communist propaganda.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: It is extraordinary.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us again, Tim Blair, the ready stuff
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: in the Daily Telegraph. We catch up with him on
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Thursday as well. Now I want to cross to Christen
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Taite in the US in just a moment. But first
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: just a reminder of what I showed you at the
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: top of the program. The anti Israel New York City
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: mayor Zorin Mamdami has come up with a government subsidized
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: grocery stores. Now it's like New York City is turning
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: into Pyongyang.
• 34:27
  Speaker 9: Once a month, our five city run grocery stores will
• 34:30
  Speaker 9: set prices for this core set of goods at thirty
• 34:32
  Speaker 9: percent below typical retail prices, no exceptions, no gimmicks. The
• 34:37
  Speaker 9: savings will last for the entire month. That means no
• 34:40
  Speaker 9: weekly fluctuations nor sticker shock at the checkout line.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: As I put to Christin, this is extraordinary. New York
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: City is the global center of capitalism. Now it seems
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: to be bringing socialism to America.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean government run grocery stores, Chris, What could
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: go wrong? I mean, think about all of the wonderful
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: government run places we go to, like the post office
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: where nothing gets done correctly and there are tons of.
• 35:09
  Speaker 11: Blazer or the DMV.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: How about the DMV where we all go to get
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: our driver's licenses and people scowl at us as we
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: wait for hours and mistakes on me And so yes,
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: I look forward to the to the government run grocery stores.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: All this reminds me of this famous hl men can quote.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: It goes something like democracy is the theory that people
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: know what they want and they deserve to get.
• 35:31
  Speaker 11: It good and hard.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: So this is what New Yorkers think they want, and
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: we'll see how the results play out. I don't think
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: it'll be pretty.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: I think it's going to be ugly.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Republican Lisa mcclin has lighted out in a social media post.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: He says, here's what's going to happen.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: The subsidized grocery stores of thirty percent below cost. Then
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: the local stools caun't compete, they go under. Then, of
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: course the government stores the only option. The sholves go hundry,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: The sholves go empty, people go hungry. There's daily Russia's,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: there's rationing, and you end up with the bread lines
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: like you had inside Viet Russia. I mean, that's the
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: logical extension of all this.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, of course it is. And you know, we could
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: see a return to the battle days of the nineteen eighties.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: My parents lived in New York City in the nineteen
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: eighties and talk all the time about how people were
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: just fleeing and droves, people were abandoning their town homes
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: and their houses right in the middle of the city.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: They became worthless because people just didn't want to be
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: there anymore. Became a total health scapeful of crime. And
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: this is what we could revert back to because of
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: this socialistic, ill informed policy. It could truly destroy America's
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: biggest city. And that's not good news for the rest
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: of the country either.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: I think a big problem here is so many I'm
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: I'm afraid I'm gonna have to say it. I'm gonna
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: have to sound like an all band. But young people
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: are so ignorant about all this. They think socialism and
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: communism sounds like fun because I've never experienced what happens before.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you're going to have government run grocery
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: stores and everything's cheaper than why not car dealerships and
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: banks and everything else.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Been done and it's a recipe for disaster. But anyway,
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: we'll come back to that. We'll keep an eye on
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: what happens in New York City. I want to get
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: back to the Middle East and what's happening with the
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: war there. President Trump again talking about a negotiated settlement
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: here he is.
• 37:23
  Speaker 20: And we're talking right now. You know they wanted to
• 37:25
  Speaker 20: talk that. People said, please, don't droump. Don't you last night,
• 37:30
  Speaker 20: the night before, two nights, don't do it. You know,
• 37:33
  Speaker 20: we're having good talks, so we'll see what happens. I
• 37:36
  Speaker 20: think there's a good chance that something can happen. And
• 37:39
  Speaker 20: if it does, good, If it does, if we go
• 37:41
  Speaker 20: back to doing what we were doing two days ago.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: So more talk about talks, Kristen. And also leaks that
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: the US could be running out of ammunition, running out
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: of missiles.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, truly disturbing. And look, I mean, I hope these
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: talks work out and everything goes well. But Americans are
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: growing increasingly skilled. Every week we get some new story.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: It's going well, it's going horribly. We're at war again.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: Oh now the war's over. People are really starting to
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: tune out the updates here and they are turning against
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: this war at a really horrible time for US politics.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: We could get more socialists, as we were just talking about,
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: voted in in November because people are mad about the
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: Iran war and turning against the Trump administration. Only like
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: one in three Americans back the war in Iran. The
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: majority of Americans are unsure of what our goals are there.
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: Eight in ten Americans say the Iran war has been
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: harder than the Trump administration promised us it would be.
• 38:40
  Speaker 11: So look, I.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: Hope we're successful here. I hope Trump's optimism plays out
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: and he's right. But I'm a little skeptical, and a
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: lot of people here becoming increasingly so.
• 38:51
  Speaker 8: Well.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: I guess if guest processes the problem, then they could
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: do a man Dami and nationalize all of the pet
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: stations across the US and mike petrol cheaper. I know
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: that Benjamin Netta, who's meeting with Donald Trump tomorrow, that'll
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: be big when it comes to this war and the
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: future there. But I just want to move on and
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: go back into the COVID era and the anti hero
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: in my view of Anthony Fauci, of course, who rand
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: the scientific side of things in the US, A new
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: book coming out from him. It seems I think it
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: was obvious to all of us at the time that
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: he was pretty much caught up in his own fame.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Have a look.
• 39:26
  Speaker 21: An entry from May twenty twenty reads this way. Big
• 39:30
  Speaker 21: front page article about me appeared in the Washington Post,
• 39:34
  Speaker 21: very flattering the situation with my national and international fame
• 39:38
  Speaker 21: is explosive and really unimaginable. It is not hyperbolic to
• 39:42
  Speaker 21: say that today I am the most famous and talked
• 39:45
  Speaker 21: about person in the country and one of the most
• 39:48
  Speaker 21: recognizable persons in the world. Countless profiles on me. I
• 39:52
  Speaker 21: cannot even read all the things that were written about me,
• 39:55
  Speaker 21: since I am so busy.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Literally all of that's a quote Goo.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: God caught up in his own fame when he needed
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: to be dealing with a health issue properly.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, nearly one hundred thousand Americans had already
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: died of COVID when he was writing this. This is
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: a terrible, despicable human being. But beyond the diary entries,
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: how about what he did in this country that directly
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: caused so many deaths because of his lies. He lied
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: about the US funding gain of function research. We were
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: told this didn't come from a lablique, and anyone who
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: suggested so is called a conspiracy theorist. I could go
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: on and on, Chris, this man needs to be held
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: criminally liable. But of course Joe Biden preemptively pardoned him
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: with his auto pen so I'm not going to hold
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: my breath for that that.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: It was pretty busy. Thanks for joining us again.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: Listen, Thank you, Chris.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: And after the bright Steven and Susie joined me on
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: the panel. We'll have a lot to say about the
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: chaos in Victoria, but.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Also the Castle. It's coming back as a stage play.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: They'll go away.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Let's catch up with our Tuesday panel now, and Stephen
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Santa Tampo from Radio two Double C joins us from
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: the People's Republic of the act and in the People's
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Republic of Victorias. Suzi O'Brien, national Education editor for the
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: News Court Papers, Susie, you must be mightily relieved there.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: You've got a new fresh start under a brand new premier.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: How different will things be?
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: Oh my, oh well, I mean same old team really,
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: I mean slightly different person, same old tied government, dishonest, divisive,
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: absolutely hopeless. I think people like Ben Carroll. He's fifty
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: one year old, married, he's got a daughter, he's been
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: the education minister. He has got a nice way about him.
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: I think a lot of people think but since.
• 41:59
  Speaker 8: Our premier.
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: You're not today maybe, but you know, like he's and
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: he has been the Deputy Premier in recent years. Overseeing
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: all the things that have gone wrong with Victorious. So
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: he's already said two things. He said he's not Daniel Andrews.
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: He said he's not just into Allan, and he's vowed
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: to bring in a Royal commission overseeing corruption in the
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: building industry. So that's a good start. But I think
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: he's got to do a whole lot more if he's
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: going to turn things around by November.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Well, he's also broken faith with his daughter. We all
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: know he's got a daughter, because he said that because
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: of his daughter he was standing by the female premier. Well,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: and now he's knife to knock her on the shoulder
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: at the very least. I think he's made a terrible start,
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: and I want to show you why by showing you
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: a couple of things he said today.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Here's one of them.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: Let me make one thing very clear. I am not
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: Daniel Andrews. I am not just Sinter Allen.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Now Susan's just mentioned that statement, Stephen, But I mean,
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: you can't define yourself by not being the two premiers
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: that you've just served under for the last almost twelve years.
• 43:13
  Speaker 22: Yeah, you know, once upon a time we used to
• 43:15
  Speaker 22: have politicians and told us what they stood for, not
• 43:17
  Speaker 22: what they stood against. But he's like the board of
• 43:20
  Speaker 22: a football club. You know, we have full confidence in
• 43:23
  Speaker 22: the coach, and then five minutes later you find the
• 43:25
  Speaker 22: coach is gone.
• 43:26
  Speaker 8: It's always the kiss of death.
• 43:27
  Speaker 22: But look, it's just you know, they might have shuffled
• 43:30
  Speaker 22: the deck chairs, but I think the iceberg is still
• 43:31
  Speaker 22: coming here. This bloke has got his fingerprints all over
• 43:36
  Speaker 22: all of the mistakes of the Allen government. There's no
• 43:38
  Speaker 22: two ways about that. But I think Victorians are going
• 43:40
  Speaker 22: to be angry here that they haven't got the choice.
• 43:42
  Speaker 22: They haven't had the chance to vote to Cinda Allen
• 43:45
  Speaker 22: out themselves, and this is the second premiere they've got
• 43:48
  Speaker 22: that's been unelected. I think Jess Wilson's in the box
• 43:52
  Speaker 22: seat here and she seems to have come through the
• 43:53
  Speaker 22: whole Moyer Deeming thing unscathed.
• 43:55
  Speaker 8: So onward and upward.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: Well Moyer Deeming self immolated. He resigned from the Liberal
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: Party today and is now an independent. But I want
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: to go to another significant comment from Ben Carroll today.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: Have a look, we are saying enough is enough. In
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: my government, integrity will not be optional. That is why
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: my first action as Premier will be to call a
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: Royal commission into the construction sector.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Now, Susie. Yeah, he's announced the Royal Commission.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: In other words, there is corruption and all the denial
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: and obfuscation of his government has been garbage for years.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: And of course you won't see any action from that
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: right Royal Commission this side of the election. But the
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: key point is at the start of it, he says
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: integrity will no longer be optional. What the hell does
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: that say about the previous twelve years?
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. And he was the guy that stood in
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: front of his old boss just a few days ago
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: and said, I look you in the eye on the
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: name of my daughter, I say that nothing you know,
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: and we could actually the Herald Son got a fantastic
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: photo Jason Edwards of his speaking notes and it says,
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: you know, not Daniel Andrews, and it says circumstances have changed.
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: So he's obviously already getting ready to answer that question.
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: And he must have said circumstances have changed about fifteen times.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: In a row.
• 45:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah, changed the positions, you.
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: Know, changing the deck chairs on the Titanic. It's the
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: same old, tired government and he was an integral part
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: of that government.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: What a shocker.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Well, talking about shocking lefties, let's go to the federal
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: scene and there's this shocking lefty podcaster by the name
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: of Hannah Ferguson, very very ignorant, very very hateful, but
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: gets a bit of a following with some young people
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Steve and she says she's going to run against the
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Elbow in his inner West seat of Grainler in Sydney.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: What chance does she have?
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, the Greens, Albow and Hannah Ferguson, they're all
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: squabbling over who's the hardest left.
• 46:05
  Speaker 22: Well, look, I find this a fascinating race because if
• 46:08
  Speaker 22: Peter Kredlin's right and Albow doesn't make it to the
• 46:11
  Speaker 22: next election, there'll be somebody else for the Labor Party
• 46:14
  Speaker 22: running in Grainler. We know the Greens have been nipping
• 46:17
  Speaker 22: at Albow's heels for years. Maybe she actually well probably
• 46:21
  Speaker 22: doesn't win the seat herself, but delivers it.
• 46:23
  Speaker 8: To the Greens.
• 46:24
  Speaker 22: It could be a very very interesting three cornered race
• 46:27
  Speaker 22: to see who could descend to the lowest of the
• 46:30
  Speaker 22: left in the Seed of Grainler.
• 46:33
  Speaker 8: Goodness helped the people of Marrickville.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's have a listen to Hannah Ferguson.
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: More people need to be standing up, putting their head
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: above the parapet and challenging people like the Prime Minister.
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: At the end of the day, he's an elected local
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: representative and I believe he's failing the area and I
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: want to change that.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't think he's failing the area, he's
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: failing the country. I think the inner West love all
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: that sort of stuff. Now I want to finish on
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: some good news, and that is the Castle. It's got
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: to come.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: A stage place.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: So we're going to get to a here a line
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: like this from the boards.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Eve.
• 47:05
  Speaker 14: Look, he was the only blake he knew with a
• 47:08
  Speaker 14: holiday home, not a caravan, a holiday home.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: And he reckoned, we were the luckiest family in the world.
• 47:14
  Speaker 10: Dale, I reckon, we're the luckiest family in the world.
• 47:18
  Speaker 10: He loved the serenity of the place.
• 47:20
  Speaker 11: How's the serenity? I think he also just loved the
• 47:23
  Speaker 11: word so much serenity.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Can't wait to hear how's the serenity? From the stage.
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: Susie and my sister lives up the road from from
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: Bonnie Doom where that was filmed, and every time you
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: go past you see those massive electricitys and we always
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: say to each other in the car house, the serenity.
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: It is just such an icon so many years later,
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: whether we're saying telling me he's dreaming, it'll go straight
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: to the poor room. Oh yeah, the vibe don't.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: It doesn't get any better.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: And there's another favorite of mine, of course, is where
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: the prospective son in Laura and the Daughter come back
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: from a trip to Thailand.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Ever.
• 48:05
  Speaker 22: Look, now, I know it's unfair to compare any place
• 48:09
  Speaker 22: to Bonnie Doom, but why would I want to go
• 48:12
  Speaker 22: there instead of.
• 48:13
  Speaker 12: Eating for young people?
• 48:14
  Speaker 8: Dad, and I know that trace. It's the culture, Daryl.
• 48:17
  Speaker 8: The place is full of shockers.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: It's shockers with culture, Stephen.
• 48:25
  Speaker 22: Look, I just I feel a bit sorry for the
• 48:27
  Speaker 22: prop master having to find jousting sticks, wrought iron gates,
• 48:30
  Speaker 22: and four ergonomic chairs to get on stage wherever they're
• 48:33
  Speaker 22: going to play this. Look, the Castle was an absolute classic.
• 48:36
  Speaker 22: I think being part of an audience in a stage
• 48:39
  Speaker 22: setting would be absolutely phenomenal to be a part of that.
• 48:41
  Speaker 8: But tell them they're dreaming, Chris, We'll all.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Be mouthing the lines while they're delivering them. I can't
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: wait for it's going to be great. Thanks for joining us,
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Susie and Stephen appreciate it. Just another reminder tonight here
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: on the News twenty four, Paul Enhanson is going to
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: be in the studio tonight with Paul Murray answering questions
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: from a live audience. Ask me anything, Pauline Hansen, please explain.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: Don't miss that tonight at nine o'clock. Can't wait with
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: that caught up with Paul and Pauline earlier, it's going
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: to be a ripper.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: We are just about out of time.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: I can't give you any feedback, but suffice to say
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: most of you aren't very fond of the Victorian government.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: I'll see you tomorrow. Tomorrow night. Here's Peter Kredlin.