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Show Rewind 10-7-26 · South Carolina's Morning News

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  Speaker 2: This is South Carolina's Morning News on 103.5 FM, 560 AM, WVOC,
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  Speaker 3: 6.03 with.
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  Speaker 4: I can't believe what I almost just said. I cannot
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  Speaker 4: believe what almost just popped out of my mouth. Christopher Thompson,
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  Speaker 4: how are you? I'm good.
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  Speaker 5: What did you almost say? Should I hit the dumb button?
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  Speaker 4: That's funny. I actually almost just said, and I'm Jonathan Rush.
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  Speaker 4: Why would that be in my mind? I was just
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  Speaker 4: doing something with Jonathan Rush down the hall a moment ago.
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  Speaker 4: And why would I ever think that I was Jonathan Rush?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: How does these things happen in my mind? I'm running
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  Speaker 4: a little bit behind today. I've got a lot happening here.
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  Speaker 4: What do they say? You know, you've got a lot
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  Speaker 4: of plates spinning or whatever, for those of you old
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  Speaker 4: enough to remember those old days. television shows like Mike Douglas,
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  Speaker 4: where they'd bring out the people who would spin plates
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  Speaker 4: on sticks. They don't do that anymore.
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  Speaker 5: No, I don't think so.
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  Speaker 4: They don't. What happened to the stick spinning school? They
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  Speaker 4: don't have that anymore, I guess.
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  Speaker 5: Ed Sullivan passed away years ago.
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  Speaker 4: That's a good point. And with him, with that lost,
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  Speaker 4: that art is now lost. So, Christopher, did you get
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  Speaker 4: a chance to watch the governor's debate last night?
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  Speaker 5: Saw most of it, yeah. No real surprises. We thought
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  Speaker 5: Alan Wilson would be smooth, and he was. We wondered
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  Speaker 5: about Jermaine. Jermaine Johnson, he went on the attack pretty quickly.
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  Speaker 5: It was always my opponent, my opponent, my opponent. He's
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  Speaker 5: almost too laid back to make attacks. It was almost
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  Speaker 5: as if there wasn't any real passion behind his attacks.
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  Speaker 4: You know, to me, what I thought that the... the
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  Speaker 4: Wilson team, they really kind of shut him down. I
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  Speaker 4: felt when Wilson was pointing out the fact that Jermaine's
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  Speaker 4: been in, you know, in office for what is it
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  Speaker 4: like eight years now or something? And he's proposed was
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  Speaker 4: like a hundred bills that you've either co-sponsored or authored
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  Speaker 4: or whatever. And zero have passed.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You have been one of the, you couldn't be any
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  Speaker 4: less effective than you've been.
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  Speaker 5: Even as a Democrat in a, in a Republican control legislature.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, he, You know, there are Democrats out there
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  Speaker 5: who have had much bigger impacts than Jermaine Johnson.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And so, I mean, if you're looking at that and
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  Speaker 4: you're trying to be like in the middle, if you're in.
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  Speaker 4: And again, when we're talking to each other here, we
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  Speaker 4: understand that the vast majority of this audience is going
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  Speaker 4: to vote Republican. always. But that's not everybody who listens.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm also thinking about the people in the middle.
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  Speaker 4: Democrats are going to vote Democrats. Republicans are going to
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  Speaker 4: vote Republican. There's a wide swath of people, some estimate
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  Speaker 4: as much as like 50, 60 percent of the population
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  Speaker 4: who don't identify with either party. Who are they going
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  Speaker 4: to vote for? Well, I after hearing that in eight years,
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  Speaker 4: you've accomplished zero. I would think that that would have
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  Speaker 4: just been like the nail to Yeah. You're pretty much
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  Speaker 4: done because you're certainly not going to get anything done
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  Speaker 4: as the governor, which I think most people recognize in
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  Speaker 4: our state. We don't have a very, we don't give
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  Speaker 4: the governor a lot of power. It's really how good
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  Speaker 4: of a negotiator are you? How good are you at
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  Speaker 4: trying to win people over to your side of an
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  Speaker 4: argument and that sort of thing? And It makes it
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  Speaker 4: very difficult for things to happen in South Carolina, which,
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  Speaker 4: by the way, I'm OK with that.
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  Speaker 6: Really?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm OK with things moving real slow.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, I thought you were OK with the governor having
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  Speaker 5: less power than perhaps in other states.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's a it's one of those double edged swords.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, if you give them too much power, then
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  Speaker 4: you I mean, like I'll give you an example at
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  Speaker 4: the presidential level. We're going to talk to Annie Andrews
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  Speaker 4: here in just a little bit. Actually, we talked to
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  Speaker 4: her yesterday. But one of the things that she was
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  Speaker 4: making a point about, and I'm not sure which clip
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  Speaker 4: it is, but she was talking about she believes that
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  Speaker 4: Congress has been kind of ignoring its duty to keep the,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the chief in check. And that has been
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  Speaker 4: true for decades, that the presidential powers have continued to
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  Speaker 4: grow and grow and grow. And I would say way
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  Speaker 4: beyond that. what the original founding fathers thought that the
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  Speaker 4: president was going to do. I would like to see
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  Speaker 4: the president, and when I say the president, I don't
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  Speaker 4: mean Donald Trump. I mean the office of the president.
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  Speaker 4: I would like to see the abilities to just do
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  Speaker 4: things willy-nilly on their own shrunk. Obama was way out
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  Speaker 4: of line. Hell, I would say, well, Bush was able
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  Speaker 4: to push the some of the agenda through Congress. But
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  Speaker 4: for the most part, I mean, you can go all
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  Speaker 4: the way back to my guy, Ronald Reagan, and he
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  Speaker 4: was pushing the powers. And every president since then has
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  Speaker 4: been doing it. I'm sure if I was to go
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  Speaker 4: back and study even like Kennedy and those types, they
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  Speaker 4: were probably pushing what the Congress should have been keeping
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  Speaker 4: in check. And it's a lot easier for Congress to
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  Speaker 4: just go, well, the president did it. We're going to
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  Speaker 4: just let him do it. And if there's any fallout,
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  Speaker 4: it'll be on him.
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  Speaker 5: Well, taking it back to South Carolina, I think the
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  Speaker 5: legislature has an outside too much power in this state.
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  Speaker 5: I'd like to see the governor. I mean, that's the
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  Speaker 5: top of the ticket. That's the person we elect to
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  Speaker 5: run the state. I'd like to see him have a
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  Speaker 5: little more power than he currently has. I thought the
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  Speaker 5: biggest blow Jermaine Johnson landed was not necessarily at Alan Wilson,
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  Speaker 5: but was at the state as a whole. He made
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  Speaker 5: the point that, yeah, Republicans have run the show for
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  Speaker 5: years and years and years. We have every office sewed up.
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  Speaker 5: And still, a lot of the things that we pledged
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  Speaker 5: to be for, in favor of, we haven't gotten done.
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  Speaker 5: And again, that's not a knock on Alan Wilson. That's
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  Speaker 5: a knock on a lot of Republicans who have been
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  Speaker 5: sitting on their hands for years or who have strayed
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  Speaker 5: too close to the middle of the aisle.
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  Speaker 4: Now, and does the word rhino come into play? And
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we've pointed out, I think, on this show
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  Speaker 4: that if you look at the crop of Republicans that
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  Speaker 4: South Carolinians elected starting in the 90s, many of them,
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  Speaker 4: I might even say the majority of them were actual
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  Speaker 4: Democrats who recognized, uh-oh, I can't win an election with
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  Speaker 4: a D next to my name. So they just said,
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  Speaker 4: I'm a Republican.
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  Speaker 5: Conservative Democrats, but Democrats nonetheless.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly. And then they voted as such. What do you think?
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  Speaker 4: Did you have thoughts on the debate last night? Do
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  Speaker 4: you want to let us know what you think on that?
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  Speaker 4: Or perhaps you listened to the podcast that we posted
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  Speaker 4: yesterday with Annie Andrews. And again, we'll be playing clips
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  Speaker 4: of that coming up in just a minute. Let us
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  Speaker 4: know using the Talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app. It
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  Speaker 4: is 6.09. On the midway to the home run.
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  Speaker 1: This is South Carolina's morning news.
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  Speaker 4: And good morning. Yesterday, Dr. Annie Andrews visited the studio
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  Speaker 4: to talk about her pitch to become the first Democrat
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  Speaker 4: senator in decades in South Carolina. I'm playing clips of
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  Speaker 4: that interview here. I will talk to you about some
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  Speaker 4: of the response I've already gotten in just a moment.
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  Speaker 4: But first, the question was she rolled out her health
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  Speaker 4: care plan yesterday. And how is Dr. Annie Andrews? This is, again,
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  Speaker 4: her number one issue is driving down the cost of
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  Speaker 4: health care. Talk to us about how you're going to
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  Speaker 4: actually fix the costs.
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  Speaker 7: The root of the problem is this is a profit
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  Speaker 7: motivated system. And it needs to be a patient-centered system.
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  Speaker 7: There's a lot of things we're going to have to
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  Speaker 7: do when I get up to D.C.
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  Speaker 8: In January.
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  Speaker 7: My number one priority is stopping the impending Medicaid budget cuts.
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  Speaker 7: Because I've seen the role Medicaid plays in the health
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  Speaker 7: care system here in South Carolina, particularly as it's the largest.
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  Speaker 8: Insurer for children in the state.
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  Speaker 7: It funds 50 percent of our births and six out
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  Speaker 7: of 10 nursing home beds. And I've talked to hospital executives,
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  Speaker 7: big hospital systems and rural hospitals who just don't know
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  Speaker 7: what they're going to do if these budget cuts come through.
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  Speaker 8: Because these hospital systems.
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  Speaker 7: Rely on this program that, in my view, is a
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  Speaker 7: really important part of our social safety net. That's like
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  Speaker 7: number one priority. But I think more broadly, we also
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  Speaker 7: need to hold insurance companies accountable. So much of the
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  Speaker 7: money that you and I pay for our monthly premiums,
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  Speaker 7: our copayments, our coinsurance, our deductibles, and when we go
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  Speaker 7: to the pharmacy, so much of that money does not
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  Speaker 7: actually go to the provision of health care. It goes
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  Speaker 7: to padding the pockets of insurance company executives and insurance
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  Speaker 7: company shareholders. And we need to hold them accountable because
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  Speaker 7: the system is not meeting the needs of patients here
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  Speaker 7: in South Carolina.
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  Speaker 4: Now, what part, if any, would you assign– We'll call
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  Speaker 4: the word blame for driving up health care costs. Would
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  Speaker 4: you put towards the Affordable Care Act? And I'm thinking
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  Speaker 4: specifically of the cap, the profit cap that Obama famously
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  Speaker 4: talked about. We're going to cap their profits and that's
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  Speaker 4: going to drive the cost down. And many critics at
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  Speaker 4: that time, including myself, pointed out they're just going to
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  Speaker 4: charge more so that their profit margins are still the
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  Speaker 4: same overall.
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  Speaker 7: Sounds like you wrote that paragraph of our plan because
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  Speaker 7: we literally talk about that.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, really?
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  Speaker 9: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 10: Interesting.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: So you'd like to reframe and redo what they call Obamacare.
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  Speaker 4: It's the Affordable Care Act. You'd like to read– that
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  Speaker 4: is not obviously working.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, broadly speaking, no. I mean, the problem you
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  Speaker 7: just highlighted, exactly. Insurance companies gamed the system. They figured
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  Speaker 7: out a pretty simple workaround.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: And it hasn't helped the problem at all.
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  Speaker 7: You know, I was practicing medicine during the time Affordable
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  Speaker 7: Care Act became the law of the land. And I
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  Speaker 7: did see some immediate benefits, you know, for patients with
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  Speaker 7: preexisting conditions who weren't qualifying for any kind of health insurance,
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  Speaker 7: who could now get a plan to meet their needs.
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  Speaker 7: Those young people who are graduating college, saddled with college jet,
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  Speaker 7: who can now stay on their parents' insurance until 26th.
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  Speaker 7: So I think there were a lot of really positive
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  Speaker 7: things that happened from the passage of that bill. To me,
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  Speaker 7: it was sort of like a tiny little tiptoe step
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  Speaker 7: in the direction we need to go because there was
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  Speaker 7: some accountability for insurance companies, forcing them to cover more
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  Speaker 7: mental health care services, well child checks and preventative screenings
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  Speaker 7: and all of that. But like the system is more
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  Speaker 7: broken today than it was 20 years ago.
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  Speaker 4: We're talking with Dr. Annie Andrews running for the Senate
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  Speaker 4: as a Democrat in South Carolina. We haven't seen a
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  Speaker 4: Democrat really. I don't know. When was the last one?
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  Speaker 4: Was it Fritz Hollings?
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  Speaker 8: I mean, he was the last Democratic senator.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, that's right.
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  Speaker 4: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Been a while.
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  Speaker 8: It's been a few moments.
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  Speaker 4: You get to pick up the Fritz mantle possibly.
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  Speaker 8: That's right.
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  Speaker 4: So, Dr. Annie, when you're talking about your health care
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  Speaker 4: plans and you want to drive down costs, I think
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  Speaker 4: that most Americans are recognizing that part of the big
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  Speaker 4: problem with America right now is our deficit, the debt
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  Speaker 4: and the deficit. And there's a distinction between the two.
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  Speaker 4: Both need to be cut because we're now servicing the
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  Speaker 4: debt at literally, I mean, a trillion dollars going towards that.
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  Speaker 4: It's unbelievable. But when your plan, it sounds as if
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  Speaker 4: we're going to expand Medicare. And if that happens, isn't
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  Speaker 4: that just more debt?
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  Speaker 7: You know, in our taxpayer pledge that we released about
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  Speaker 7: a week ago, I do talk about this $ 40 trillion
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  Speaker 7: debt and how I consider that one of the greatest
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  Speaker 7: existential crises future generations face. And I think a lot
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  Speaker 7: of people know I got into politics because I'm a
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  Speaker 7: mom of three and I care about my children's future
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  Speaker 7: as every parent out there does. And I consider the
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  Speaker 7: debt to be one of the greatest threats to their
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  Speaker 7: future financial security, economic security, national security, all of that.
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  Speaker 8: I hear what you're saying.
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  Speaker 7: You know, I think a lot of people assume my
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  Speaker 7: plan for everything is more government spending, more government programs.
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  Speaker 7: But actually sort of my big swing in the healthcare sphere,
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  Speaker 7: two of them, number one is a public option.
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  Speaker 8: And a public option is.
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  Speaker 7: Actually an American taxpayer purchasing a plan from the federal
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  Speaker 7: government that would be more affordable because the profit motivation
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  Speaker 7: wouldn't be a part of that transaction. But it's not
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  Speaker 7: just the federal government paying for more people's healthcare. It's
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  Speaker 7: purchasing a plan from the federal government. I think that
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  Speaker 7: that would reduce the influence our private insurance companies have
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  Speaker 7: on the overall system of force them to offer more
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  Speaker 7: competitive benefit plans.
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  Speaker 8: At lower premium rates.
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  Speaker 7: And then there'd be a domino effect as more people think,
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  Speaker 7: you know what, this plan I'm getting from the federal
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  Speaker 7: government is actually working better. And I know that sounds
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  Speaker 7: a little bit crazy, but I remember when my Republican dad,
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  Speaker 7: who I think.
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  Speaker 8: A lot of people have seen in our ad.
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  Speaker 4: We can't get them off TV.
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  Speaker 7: When he, you know, when he turned 65, you know,
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  Speaker 7: he's a, you know, he is a Fox News watching Republican.
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  Speaker 7: And he had all the skepticism about, you know, government
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  Speaker 7: health care and the Medicare program. As soon as he
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  Speaker 7: got on the Medicare plan, he's like, this is actually
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  Speaker 7: pretty good. I mean, it's not perfect, but he's like,
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  Speaker 7: this is pretty good.
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  Speaker 8: The other thing we.
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  Speaker 7: Can do in the health care sphere to reduce the
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  Speaker 7: national debt and deficit is the Medicare prescription drug negotiation.
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  Speaker 7: You know, Medicare can negotiate the price of 40 prescription drugs,
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  Speaker 7: some of the most expensive prescription drugs. And that was
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  Speaker 7: an important step in the right direction. But if we
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  Speaker 7: would allow Medicare to negotiate the prices of prescription drugs
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  Speaker 7: for everything, it would reduce federal spending by like $ 200
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  Speaker 7: billion a year or something.
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  Speaker 4: Or something. I didn't push back there, Christopher, but we
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  Speaker 4: will push back when we come back in just a moment.
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  Speaker 4: It's 620. Well, there we go, Christopher. That's our first
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  Speaker 4: listen at Dr. Annie. And she says that the problem
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  Speaker 4: is the profit. And if government gets involved, they're not
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  Speaker 4: going to be in it for profit. I guess that's
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  Speaker 4: pretty clear from the post office that they're not in
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  Speaker 4: it for profit. But, you know, the cost doesn't go down.
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  Speaker 4: At the end, she said something about if we could
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  Speaker 4: negotiate all the drugs, that would save, she said, $ 200
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  Speaker 4: billion or something. According to the nonpartisan, you always have
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  Speaker 4: to give it, the nonpartisan CBO, they estimate it would
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  Speaker 4: be 10. So $ 200 billion to $ 10 billion is a
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  Speaker 4: bit of a difference. They're not really going to change
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  Speaker 4: much of anything. What did you think of her so far?
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  Speaker 4: She's good. Oh, my gosh.
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  Speaker 5: I will say that. That's the first time I've ever
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  Speaker 5: heard her in length. And, I mean, she is really...
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  Speaker 5: She's using buzzwords and a lot of phrases that would
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  Speaker 5: have conservatives saying, wait just a minute. She sounds pretty rational.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the the expanding of Medicaid and the way she
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  Speaker 4: tries to position this. as something that her father enjoys.
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  Speaker 4: And a lot of Americans enjoy the benefits of Medicaid
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  Speaker 4: and so on and so forth. The reality of that
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  Speaker 4: is when I pushed back a little bit and said,
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  Speaker 4: aren't you actually just adding money, spending more government money?
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  Speaker 4: Aren't you adding to the debt? The reality of the
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  Speaker 4: plan is yes, of course that's spent when somebody has
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  Speaker 4: to pay for these things. So if you as an
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  Speaker 4: individual are receiving a reduced cost, you're probably paying more
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  Speaker 4: in taxes than Or the rest of us are paying
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  Speaker 4: more in taxes, which actually is a drag on the economy.
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  Speaker 4: But that's the beginning of the health care plan. I
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  Speaker 4: know we're running tight on time, so we'll take a break.
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  Speaker 4: When we come back, we'll have more from Dr.
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  Speaker 6: Annie.
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  Speaker 4: We might have some more responses, your responses to Dr.
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  Speaker 9: Annie.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, I'm getting a ton of conservatives who
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  Speaker 4: are angry at me that I didn't, like, slam her
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  Speaker 4: up against the wall. First off, she's a likable person. Two,
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  Speaker 4: I don't– I wouldn't slam– anybody against the wall, Tallarico
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  Speaker 4: or whoever gave it here. My points are to let
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  Speaker 4: them make their point. I'm not going to get into
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  Speaker 4: an argument with her. I'm going to let her make
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  Speaker 4: her points. I might redirect and I do redirect her
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  Speaker 4: a little bit on abortion coming up. But for the
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  Speaker 4: most part, let her make her points. And then I
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  Speaker 4: will then point out where I think that she's wrong. Obviously,
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  Speaker 4: I think she's completely wrong on the expansion of Medicare
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  Speaker 4: and Medicaid. We can't That actually just makes things more
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  Speaker 4: expensive for you because you're adding to the national debt,
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  Speaker 4: which is already a trillion dollars a year in tax
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  Speaker 4: money just to service the debt. So I would say no.
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  Speaker 4: I would say no on that.
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  Speaker 5: But she's throwing around these populist ideas of, you know,
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  Speaker 5: health care companies. You know, they're the bad guys and
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: we're the good people. I mean, she's saying a lot
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: of things that resonate with everyone, conservatives and Democrats.
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  Speaker 4: Well, we'll see what else she has to say about
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: other issues like SCOTUS. That's a big decision for senators.
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  Speaker 4: We'll get into that coming up. It is 629.
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  Speaker 2: Live from the state capitol, this is South Carolina's Morning News.
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: Hi there. Kelly Nash with Christopher Thompson and Dr. Annie Andrews.
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  Speaker 4: This was recorded yesterday afternoon. She had just rolled out
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: her health care plan. We played that segment a moment ago. Obviously,
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  Speaker 4: a big deal would be SCOTUS because as a senator,
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: you would get to pick your next SCOTUS judges or
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: at least you don't get to nominate them, but you
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: get to pass on them. Can you name your favorite
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  Speaker 4: SCOTUS judge?
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  Speaker 7: That is so interesting because that's the second time on
• 16:25
  Speaker 7: one of these radio shows I've been asked that question
• 16:27
  Speaker 7: and I've never been asked it anywhere else.
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  Speaker 8: And it caught me by surprise the first time.
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  Speaker 4: I'm disappointed I didn't get to surprise you.
• 16:36
  Speaker 8: Maybe you have another surprise planned for me.
• 16:38
  Speaker 7: You know, and what I said to her is what
• 16:40
  Speaker 7: I'll say today is I'm not really like a political fangirl.
• 16:43
  Speaker 7: And I know that kind of sounds like a non-answer,
• 16:46
  Speaker 7: but that's just sort of not how I came at
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  Speaker 7: politics by following these things. What I've watched happen to
• 16:51
  Speaker 7: the Supreme Court to the detriment, I believe, of freedom
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  Speaker 7: in America is it's just become so politicized. These should
• 17:00
  Speaker 7: be nonpartisan, neutral judges. I'm not a lawyer, but just
• 17:04
  Speaker 7: really go to support the Constitution, read the letter of
• 17:08
  Speaker 7: the law, and make decisions based on that, not based
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  Speaker 7: on any influence by the executive branch of government or
• 17:14
  Speaker 7: their own personal politics. And I just think it's been
• 17:17
  Speaker 7: so politicized. As a woman and a doctor and a
• 17:20
  Speaker 7: mom of two daughters and a son, but of two
• 17:22
  Speaker 7: daughters in particular, I'm concerned about the Dobbs decision and
• 17:25
  Speaker 7: what that did to women's ability to access reproductive health care.
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  Speaker 4: I've heard you say that. I'm wondering, did the Supreme
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: Court get that wrong? Were the justices who voted to
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: send it back to the states, in your estimation, did
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: they misinterpret the Constitution?
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  Speaker 8: I mean, again, I'm not a lawyer from a legal standpoint.
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  Speaker 8: I think they had a.
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: decent legal argument that it can be a decision at.
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  Speaker 8: The state level.
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  Speaker 7: But where we are in South Carolina right now and
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  Speaker 7: what has happened as a result of that decision, the
• 17:53
  Speaker 7: six-week abortion ban, it's not good for women's health care.
• 17:57
  Speaker 7: You know, women are suffering. Women are scared to get
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: pregnant in South Carolina. I don't think a woman's rights
• 18:01
  Speaker 7: should change when they cross state lines. I just met
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: a young woman in Charleston County a couple weeks ago
• 18:07
  Speaker 7: who was pregnant with her second child, went to her
• 18:09
  Speaker 7: 20-week ultrasound. received this devastating news that the infant, the
• 18:14
  Speaker 7: fetus had a very serious spinal condition that was not
• 18:17
  Speaker 7: going to be compatible with life outside the womb. And
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: because of the decisions that have been made in Columbia,
• 18:21
  Speaker 7: South Carolina, in the wake of the Dobbs decision, she
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: didn't have any options here.
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  Speaker 4: But we all can agree that there are also stories
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  Speaker 4: on the other side where somebody was told that it's
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: not going to be viable. And then there was a miracle.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: And then the child is born and everybody's shocked. I mean,
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: I look at my pastor's son who was not supposed
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: to survive birth and He's currently enrolled in college.
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  Speaker 8: That's wonderful.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah. And so I don't want to debate abortion. Right.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: What I'd like to debate is, or not even debate,
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: is just get your opinion on, like, what would you
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: be looking for in the next Supreme Court justice? And
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: that's why I'm trying to find out, are there any
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: judges that you like or are there any that you
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: don't like? And you say, like, again, with the Dobbs decision,
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  Speaker 4: you feel like they got it wrong. Would you say
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  Speaker 4: that they were, I don't want to say disqualified, but disqualified?
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: that they're not the kinds of characters you'd be looking
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: for in the next Supreme Court justice.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the most recent appointees to the Supreme
• 19:12
  Speaker 7: Court in this really hyper-political, hyper-partisan era of politics that
• 19:17
  Speaker 7: we've been in for most of my adult life, it's
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: led to this politicization of the Supreme Court, which was
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: never meant to be political. This isn't how the framers
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: of the Constitution thought the Supreme Court would function. There
• 19:29
  Speaker 7: shouldn't be this relationship, in my view, between the executive
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: branch and Did.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: I hear that you were for expanding the court?
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: I think that any option needs to be on the
• 19:39
  Speaker 7: table right now because of what I've just said about
• 19:41
  Speaker 7: it being so politicized and some of the decisions that
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: are being made and the ramifications of those decisions like
• 19:46
  Speaker 7: on young women here in South Carolina.
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  Speaker 8: And that's just one example.
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  Speaker 7: I am open minded about the potential need to unpack
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: the court by expanding the court, because if we continue
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: to have this politicized. Supreme Court for another decade, decade
• 20:00
  Speaker 7: and a half, two decades. I'm really worried about continued
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: infringements on Americans' freedom, including this access to reproductive health
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  Speaker 7: care that has been blocked for so many women in
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: South Carolina.
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  Speaker 4: What I think I hear you say is that the
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: more recent additions to the Supreme Court are a little more,
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: we'll say, politicized. That the older members of the court,
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: while you might not agree with Clarence Thomas or Judge Alito,
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: they at least meet your requirements.
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  Speaker 9: Yes.
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  Speaker 11: Yes.
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  Speaker 8: Thank you. Great interpretation of all the words I'm saying
• 20:32
  Speaker 8: into this microphone.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: Thank you. A great interpretation. And so did I just
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: get her to admit that Joe Biden's nominee doesn't qualify
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: in her world?
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: Sounded like it.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: That's what it sounded like to me. All right, we're
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: going to talk about her thoughts on the Dobbs decision
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: and other things. We'll be back in just a moment.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: It is South Carolina's Morning News.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: This is South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 8: The drugs are a huge, huge, huge problem.
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  Speaker 12: But also, they need to.
• 21:03
  Speaker 9: Start differentiating between types of insurance companies instead of lumping
• 21:10
  Speaker 9: all the insurance companies together. And they know that. Ask
• 21:16
  Speaker 9: which insurance company they prefer their clients to have and why.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: I wonder whose clients she's talking about. But thank you
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: for your talk back. I definitely know that there's a
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: huge difference between insurance companies, and I think everybody would.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: It sounds as if Dr. Annie's favorite would be the U.S. government,
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: where you have an opportunity to, as she's basically saying,
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: you could buy from them. Look, I think this is
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: a thinly veiled disguise that she is for single payer
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: moving forward. We were just talking with Dr. Annie Andrews
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: about her Supreme Court nominees, what she would be looking for.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: It was interesting that she said, Christopher, in my estimation,
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: that she disagreed with the Dobbs decision. Mm-hmm. And then
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  Speaker 4: when I asked her, did they get it wrong? Did
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: they misinterpret the Constitution? She said, no, they had good
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: legal reasons. So she is actually, in my estimation, looking
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: for an activist judge. What do you think?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that could vary. I mean, the Dobbs decision didn't
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: say a word about abortion other than it was a
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: state's decision.
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  Speaker 13: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: And she's suggesting maybe that she could find a more
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: friendly judge down here, I guess.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, it's it's really rather bizarre
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  Speaker 4: to me that you're saying that's wrong, but you're saying
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: that it's still based on the Constitution. So that that
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: was an odd take. I do like the fact that
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: she called out, you know, not by name, but Tanya
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: Jackson Brown is not one of hers. She but and
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: then this idea of what did she say? We're going
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: to pack the court. We're going to unpack it by
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: pack to. depoliticize it yeah but you gotta pack it
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: you gotta add more to it because otherwise we're gonna
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: get decisions that we don't like for the next 10
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: or 15 years that is by definition politicizing the court.
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  Speaker 5: Yes that's not only that but that's that's pretty close
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: to a plank right out of the democrat socialist agenda
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: these days yes yes so which she seems to be
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: trying to separate herself from but at the same time
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: that's pretty close Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And and look, if you go back in time, I
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: know Ruth Bader Ginsburg is not here to, quote unquote,
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: defend herself at this point. But she for many years
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: said she had problems with the Roe v. Wade decision,
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: that that was that the Supreme Court got it wrong.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: And so I think that most. scholars who study the
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: constitution would say that is a state's right and that
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: the state for when she starts talking about there shouldn't
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: be different rules for people when they go into different
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: states that's by definition what the founding fathers wanted they
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: wanted the united states to be 50 well they didn't
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: at that time was 13 different colonies they were going
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: to make them 13 different states and then that we're
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: going to have different forms of government although we would
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: have one umbrella branch we would actually have different opportunities
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: to test out How do things work in different states?
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: And then people would have the option to move to
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: different states. Again, ensured freedom. There's certain things that we'd
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: all be together on the military. We'd all have different
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: things that we combined with. We had the postal service
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: even before the Civil War. By the way, if you
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: go to Charleston, I loved going to their postal museum
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: and seeing the First stamps. That was like one of
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: those things when you're launching a civil war I never considered.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: They had to come up with their own post office
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: and all kinds of things. It's a fascinating thing when
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: you study history. But anyway, we'll have more with Dr. Annie,
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: more with your talkbacks as well. And if you want
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: to hear the entire interview, just go to the National
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: Briefing Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. It is now 648.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: You're listening to South Carolina's Morning News.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: As far as Dr.
• 24:47
  Speaker 11: Annie Andrew goes, she does sound like a wonderful, likable person. However,
• 24:53
  Speaker 11: I'm pretty sure we all get the read. Let's expand
• 24:58
  Speaker 11: the Supreme Court, abortion rights for women, expand Medicare, Medicaid,
• 25:04
  Speaker 11: socialized medicine. Yeah, we got it. By the way, Since
• 25:10
  Speaker 11: when is selecting a Supreme Court justice not been political?
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: Great points. Great points. Now, I'm going to put her
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: into what I think is an un-overcome-able objection. We'll do
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: that when we get back with Dr. Annie Andrews. Thanks
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: for waking up with South Carolina's morning news.
• 25:27
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• 25:33
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• 25:42
  Speaker 13: So you don't know the legal aspects of Roe v. Wade,
• 25:48
  Speaker 13: but you don't like the verdict because you have daughters.
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: And now... The rules are being set at the state level,
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: but you're running as a federal senator instead of running
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: for state senate or state representative. To change South Carolina laws,
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: you want to go to Congress.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: Some of the response to Dr. Annie Andrews in the
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: interview we've been running back, again, you can get the
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: entire interview online. completely unedited. All the ums and ahs
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: and whatever's are in there on the national briefing podcast,
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: which you find on the I heart radio app. Uh, Christopher,
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: it's been an interesting couple of segments with her talking
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: about in that instance, uh, the talk back feature was, uh,
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: featuring the fact that she didn't agree with the Dobbs decision,
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: which overturned Roe v. Wade.
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: Um, And then made abortion a state's decision, state's right's decision.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: She doesn't like that. But then when we asked her, like,
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: what would be the grounds, do you think that they
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: were unconstitutional in the Dobbs decision? She said, no, I
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: think they had great legal, or she didn't use the
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: word great. She said good, sound legal opinions. Then she
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: pointed out that the newer members of the court, which
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: would include Katanya Jackson Brown, that they are the ones
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: that she would not be She wouldn't have approved any
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: of them, I guess, because they're too politicized. She said
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: that the founding fathers never intended for the Supreme Court
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: to be politicized. But yet, why have the president nominate
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: the— I mean, it's always been. As far as we can— as
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: far as any of us can tell in our lifetimes,
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: and again, for those of you who are old enough
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: to remember the Bork situation, Robert Bork was— that was a travesty,
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: what happened to him. in his nomination process. And you
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: can go back and look that up if you want
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: to see what we're talking about. But ultimately, as Dr.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: Annie Andrews makes her push, and, you know, again, the
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: polls have her within a point of Darlene Graham at
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: this point. And again, I have reached out to Darlene. Remember,
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: I did it last night again, reached out to the
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Graham campaign, a different person with the Graham campaign who
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: commented on this Annie Andrews podcast. They, hey, thank you
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: for pointing out those things. Can you get Darlene Graham
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: to come on the show? A little later on today,
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: we're supposed to be talking with Casey Whitener. I think
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: it's her last name, how do you pronounce it? She
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: is the Libertarian candidate for the Senate. But the ultimate
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: reason I don't think... most south carolinians would vote for
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: annie andrews is the the problem that it's a team
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: sport unfortunately you can be as moderate as you want
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: but it is giving power to a team and the
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: team that she's playing for right now the energy on
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: that team is all like marxist left so in a
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: best case scenario the new leader of the senate would
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: be chuck schumer who's already proven himself to be I
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: am just a tool for the left. You know, it's
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: not the Chuck Schumer of the 90s anymore. This is
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: a Chuck Schumer doing whatever he can to win favor
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: with the extreme left. But also you would be empowering
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: people like Richard Blumenthal. You'd be empowering people like Chris Murphy.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: You'd be empowering people, you know, just take it wherever.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: What's his name? Chris Von Holland from Maryland. The fine
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: Maryland man, all of these people, Elizabeth Warren, they're all
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: the ones that would be dictating the the future of
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: America simply because you're a Democrat. Now, I asked her
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: about that and I said, are you telling me that
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: you believe that a freshman senator from South Carolina who
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: is describing herself as a moderate would have the ability
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: to stop the agenda of the far left?
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  Speaker 7: Honestly, I think the answer to that question is yes.
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: I think it's important for people to know that the
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: Democratic Party here in South Carolina didn't recruit me to run.
• 29:44
  Speaker 7: They're not writing my scripts. They're not telling me what
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: to say. I am here because I want to fight
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: for my kids and all the kids in South Carolina.
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: And I want to be a part of this change.
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: I also really do vow to be an independent voice
• 29:55
  Speaker 7: because Chuck Schumer didn't call me and ask me to run.
• 29:58
  Speaker 8: I don't owe him anything.
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: I don't owe any of these Democrats who are currently
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: elected anything.
• 30:03
  Speaker 9: Anything.
• 30:04
  Speaker 7: And I also have a career that I would love
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: to go back to someday. So if I take votes
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: that make my party angry, that's okay with me if
• 30:11
  Speaker 7: they want to do something about that, if they want
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: to punish me in some way. But I will tell you,
• 30:14
  Speaker 7: if we pull this off, if South Carolina elects me
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: in 28 days, and I'm going to have a lot
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: of political capital because people are going to be saying,
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: how in the world did she pull that off in
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: South Carolina?
• 30:24
  Speaker 8: And I think my party is going to listen to.
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: Me because they're going to recognize that I, along with
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: whoever else wins across the country, As underdogs that they
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: that they maybe are the new face of the Democratic Party.
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: And I know you just said I seem like a moderate.
• 30:37
  Speaker 8: I am a moderate.
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: And I recognize that all the effective governing in this
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: country happens from the center. The far left can talk
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: to each other on the far left. The far right
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: can do the same on the far right. But if
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: nobody's talking to each other in the center, we're never.
• 30:48
  Speaker 8: Going to get anything done.
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: And I've been spending the past 18 months talking to
• 30:51
  Speaker 7: voters in South Carolina about all of their frustrations and
• 30:54
  Speaker 7: the ways that the government is failing to solve any problems,
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: creating new problems. And, you know, we've got to get
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: back to an era of bipartisanship. And I think I
• 31:02
  Speaker 7: can be a part of that.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: She is a good candidate, isn't she? Yes, she is.
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's again, we talked in the last hour
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: about things that resonate with everyone, including conservatives. And then
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: she kind of fell off the map when she started
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: talking about abortion. And now she's trying to get back
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: in our good graces with comments that sound very reasonable.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: But again, if you believe that a freshman senator from
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: any state would have the ability to influence the left,
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: I would just say you're delusional. I don't see how
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: you could stop Cory Booker. I don't see how you
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: can stop the people who've already established themselves as the powerbrokers.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: And it's because it's not about the votes. We've talked
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: about this before. It's what happens before the votes. It's
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: about crafting the legislature. It's about backdoor politicking. I just
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: don't see it.
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: It's about confirming Supreme Court justice.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: It's about that as well.
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: You had the story yesterday about this huge case involving
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: Colorado and energy across America. And Samuel Alito actually recused
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: himself because he has, what, oil and gas stock?
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: Correct.
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  Speaker 5: There would not be a Samuel Alito. If Sheldon Whitehouse
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: were in, Sheldon Whitehouse is the ranking Democrat on the
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: Judiciary Committee. He is Mr.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: Green.
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: Everything has to be green with Samuel Whitehouse. Samuel Alito
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: would never, the minute Whitehouse found out Samuel Alito had
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: any interest at all in gas and oil and energy,
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: that would not, that would be the end of his
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: candidacy for the Supreme Court.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: Well, Mr. Rhode Island Sheldon, I think he would veto
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: any Republican nominee if he had the opportunity. That too.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: And again, we don't want it to be political. What
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: kind of a fairytale land is she living in? But again,
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: lovely lady. Glad to have met her. Would love to
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: meet Darlene Graham. Would love to have her come by.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: We're going to be looking for more candidates. If you'd
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: like to send your candidate our way, let us know.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: You can use the talkback feature to nominate your favorite candidates.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: And one final thought coming up on the Senate race
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: that I think is a rather important point that we
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: haven't yet made. We'll get to that and some of
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: your talkbacks hopefully coming up on South Carolina's Morning News.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: From the Midlands to the Lowcountry, this is South Carolina's
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Morning News.
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  Speaker 14: I think, gentlemen, Annie Andrews has just proven why she's
• 33:25
  Speaker 14: not a credible candidate, because she's incredibly naïve.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: She thinks she's going to make a difference. She's working
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: with the far-left socialists. She's not going to make any difference. Well,
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: I do appreciate the talk back, and you guys can
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: get your voice in as well. If you're on the
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: iHeartRadio app, you can put it in your pocket. You
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: take that and just push the little microphone and let
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: us know what you're thinking about any of the subjects
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: that we're talking about. Now, the first hour was kind
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: of dominated by the Alan Wilson, Jermaine Johnson debate from
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: last night and the excerpts that were playing from the
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: Annie Andrews interview. Christopher, you said you had some– news
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: you were just reading about in the New York Times?
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: Well, the Times picked up a piece by Axios. Now
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: Associated Press has picked it up as well. The Senate
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: Leadership Fund is putting $ 5 million into South Carolina to
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: shore up Darlene Graham's campaign. And the AP also reports
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: there is a Trump trip back to South Carolina in
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: the works ahead of November 3rd.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's sad that it's come to that, that the
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, that five million dollars should have been used
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: in races like, for example, Georgia, that that would have
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: been a you would have hoped that. Whether it's Texas, Ohio, wherever,
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: South Carolina, you shouldn't need that money here to win,
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: but that's where we're at right now. So we're the
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: Senate fund is being used all over the place. And
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: so they've already surrendered to John Ossoff in Georgia. And
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: it's nice to see that they're acknowledging that Darlene Graham
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: needs help. We haven't seen her. We had a guy
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: yesterday on the Talk Back feature. Didn't even know her name.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: What did he keep calling her?
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: Denise Graham.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: Denise Graham. They don't even know who they're talking about,
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: for God's sakes. And again, we would like to have
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: Darlene Graham on the show. I'll say it again. To
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: anybody who works with the Graham campaign, please join. invite
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: her back. I back, but have her on for the
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: first time. The other thing that we haven't talked about
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: Christopher that needs to be, I'll just put it out
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: here again, is that this whole right in Ralph campaign
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: that I see spreading on social media, that is one
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: of the worst ideas I've ever heard because there is
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: no fathomable path forward. where ralph norman could win a
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: write-in campaign even if he got the five million dollars
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: in advertising there's no he'd he had his shot he
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: couldn't win the primary not only did he not win
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: the governor's primary he didn't win the senate primary and
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: i say that again as someone who voted for ralph
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: norman in the senate primary who wanted ralph norman i
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: wanted a conservative Now, there's a bunch of you saying, well,
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: Darlene's not a conservative, so I'm not voting for her.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: I got to send a message to the MAGA Republican.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: The message that you're sending is that you're going to
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: embolden and empower. The most important part is not only
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: the emboldening, the empowerment of the far left, the far left. Now,
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: Chuck Schumer has been won over by the far left.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: So if he is the head of the Senate, which
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of debate as to whether or not
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: he'll actually win that, if that's the case, if they
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: win the Senate, will Chuck Schumer be the leader? Possibly
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: he wants it, but it could also go to Cory Booker.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: It could also go to Chris Coons or not Chris Coons.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: What's his name? Chris Von Holland from Maryland. It could
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: go to a bunch of people that are extremists and
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: they will then dictate the legislation that we are crafting
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: before it comes up for a vote. So even a
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: moderate would be forced into either voting for it or
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: voting against the party. And of course, if she's voting
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: against the party, that's when you start losing votes. the
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: ability to be on certain committees and those types of things.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: Annie Andrews alluded to the punishment. That is the punishment.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: You basically are powerless. You're neutered. And she understands that
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: as a doctor. So I don't know if you guys
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: have thoughts on this. But again, this write-in Ralph campaign,
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: and sometimes they want to compare it to Strom Thurmond.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: Strom Thurmond was an overwhelmingly popular person who had just
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: finished being the governor of the state. That's a completely
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: different scenario than what you're talking about with Ralph Norman,
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: who's a great man. I just wish that, again, if
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: you're a Ralph Norman supporter, you should be reaching out
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: to him. I will reach out to him again and say, Ralph,
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: you should be campaigning for Darlene Graham. If you understand
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: that this is a team sport and one team is
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: going to win and the other one's going to lose.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: And if the losing team is the Republicans, in my estimation,
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: the way I look at politics, I say America loses.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: So we need to fight for Darlene Graham, whether you
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: like her or not. Doesn't matter. You need to get
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: a Republican. She's going to vote the right way. That's
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: not the question. The question is, is she really? Who
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: cares at this point? At this point, we don't have
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: an opportunity to debate that anymore. That debate happened in
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: the primary. Do you think I'm frustrated, Christopher? A little bit. Golly,
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: we need to pull this. Well, again, Annie Andrews, strong candidate.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: You can hear the entire interview on the National Briefing
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: podcast on the I Heart Radio app. We'll be back
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: with more in just a moment. It is now 720.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: This is South Carolina's Morning News on 103.5 FM and
• 38:40
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• 38:48
  Speaker 5: Good morning, guys.
• 38:49
  Speaker 12: This is Donna from Columbia.
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: I actually like Annie Andrews.
• 38:54
  Speaker 12: I don't necessarily agree with her policies, but she is
• 38:57
  Speaker 12: a likable candidate, but she doesn't stand a chance against
• 39:00
  Speaker 12: these other Democrats in Washington. On another note, I was
• 39:04
  Speaker 12: going to donate money to Darlene's campaign. However, every time
• 39:08
  Speaker 12: I donate, they wind up doing it monthly, and I
• 39:11
  Speaker 12: never sign up for monthly. So that's another reason, and
• 39:14
  Speaker 12: she's not able to use her brother's money.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: Well, thank you, Donna from Columbia. Certainly appreciate you using
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: the Talkback feature to get in touch with us here
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: at South Carolina's Morning News. Sorry to hear that there's
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: some trouble trying to donate to the campaign on the website.
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: I just clicked on it. that website. There is a
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: box that you can check whether it's you want to
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: do monthly or not. But I guess what Donna is
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: saying is every time she checks one time donation, it
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: winds up going into a monthly thing anyway. Well, that
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: might be just a technical website issue.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: Maybe the Graham campaign is listening, and perhaps you could
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: look into that. There apparently is at least one person
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: trying to donate to you. And Christopher, with the breaking
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: news earlier that apparently the, what is it, the Senate
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: fund is going to come through with a $ 5 million donation?
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: Senate leadership fund, yeah, is going to send $ 5 million
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: to Graham for South Carolina to shore up the campaign here.
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: And again, there's talk of another Trump visit for Graham
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: before Thanksgiving. the midterms.
• 40:14
  Speaker 9: All right.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: So, well, we're down to like, what, 27 days now,
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: and early voting starts, is it next week? That early
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: voting is starting very soon. I'm not sure exactly off
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: the top of my head when it's going to start,
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: but we'll be all over that. And coming up, we've
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: got a shocking development in the Cornell 7 case. And
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: of course, speaking of 7, today is October 7th. How
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: did we get here? How did the world... get to
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: where we're at right now regarding Israel. We'll take a
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: look at that and more. And of course, if you've
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: got talkbacks, we'd love to hear them as well off
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: the iHeartRadio app. It is now 728.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Live from the state capitol, this is South Carolina's Morning News.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: Hello, guys.
• 40:57
  Speaker 15: Steve from Mount Pleasant. I'd like to remind us to
• 41:00
  Speaker 15: say a prayer for the people who died in Israel
• 41:05
  Speaker 15: on October 7th, three years ago. And you can also
• 41:08
  Speaker 15: remind us about the necessity and the justification for this war.
• 41:14
  Speaker 15: Hamas started it. The Gazans supported it and wanted it.
• 41:21
  Speaker 15: And this is what they've gotten.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Steve, from Mount Pleasant. You read my mind.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: Going into this, we were going to talk about October
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: 7th and the 30th anniversary. And for those of you who,
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: I describe myself often as a reality chiropractor, because reality
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: seems to get lost somehow. It gets misaligned, and we
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: need to realign ourselves to reality. The reality of Palestine
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: is it is now... and never has been, a country.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: It is a group of people who were actually designed
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: by the Roman Empire. They were being forced into basically
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: the Jewish population at that point. They were trying to
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: separate everybody. And so they were just useful to the
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: Roman Empire at that point. We don't need to go
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: back through ancient history. 1948, I think everybody recognizes the
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: United Nations. re-established the state of Israel, and that was
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: an overwhelming majority of the world wanted Israel to have
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: its own state. And I mean, geographically, it was smaller
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: than what their original footprint was, but that was their homeland.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: And so since 1948, we've had a lot of problems. Obviously,
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: there's been war after war after war. But just take
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: a look at even more recent history. The last time
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: the Jews... were in that area of the West Bank.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: That was 2005. It had been 16 years since the
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: Jewish people have given up their homes, the settlements that
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: they had created on their land. They said, leave them.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: The Jewish population was forced off their own land, sent
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: back deeper into Israel, and that was turned over to
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: the Palestinians. On top of it, the high-tech greenhouses that
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: they had built was given to them. They said, this
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: is the ability to grow food in the middle of
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: the desert. You can have them. It's all yours. What
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: did they do with it? They destroyed all of it.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: Then on top of it, if you look at the
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: last 20 years or so, $ 50 billion has been sent
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: into the Palestinian people group. Now, again, this was when
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: they were not even at 5 million people yet. $ 50
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: billion specifically sent to them to build out their infrastructure
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: and help their economy. They had one vote. That's the
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: only vote they've ever had, and it was to elect Hamas.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: A lot of people want to make a distinction that
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: Hamas is a political thing. It's not the same as
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: the Hamas, the military wing. Good luck trying to sell
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: that to people because nobody's buying that. Now, what has
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: Hamas done? With the $ 50 billion, I think it was
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: like $ 20 billion of it came from the U.S., what
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: did they do with that money? The infrastructure that they
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: built is terror tunnels, right? They have 500 miles by
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: their own description so we can move our rocket launchers
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: without being detected by satellites. 500 miles. In case you
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: want to put that in perspective, if you've ever been
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: to New York, all of the subways, all five, or
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: actually four of the boroughs have the subways. All of
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: those boroughs from Bronx, Queens, whatever, Staten, well, they don't
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: go to Staten Island, but you know what I'm saying, Manhattan,
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: That's 200 miles. It's more than double the entire subway
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: system of New York City is what they built with that.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: And all it is is concrete and steel. And I
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: guess by accident, those tower tunnels happen to pop out
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: wherever they're going to fire rockets. They're near schools and
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: they're near hospitals. That was just an inadvertent oversight, I guess,
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: on Hamas's part.
• 44:44
  Speaker 15: Whoops.
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, whoopsie. So that when you fire back at those
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: rocket launchers, you're going to be firing in the general
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: vicinity of a school or a hospital. Then you counter
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: the fact that 13,000 rockets have been fired into Israel
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: by them leading up to October 7th. This was to
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: aim at population centers. They weren't aiming at military people.
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: They were firing directly at schools and hospitals and population
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: centers where the civilians lived. Was there a cry of
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: genocide at that point? Were people saying the Palestinians are
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: trying to genocide the Jews? No, for some reason in
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: the world's narrative, or I shouldn't say the world, the
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: left's narrative, what's actually happening here is this is Israel
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: getting their comeuppance. This is their just desserts. They deserved
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: to have thousands of people, excuse me, soldiers come across
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: the border on October 7th. and slaughter thousands of them.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: On top of it, take 200-plus hostages back in there.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: Those hostages, by the way, 85 of them died in captivity.
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: The last body was finally returned to Israel this year.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: January of 2026 is when they got the last body back.
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: And on top of the soldiers that went in from Hamas,
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: you've also got over 1,000 civilians from Palestine who went
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: in specifically to rape. That was their goal, and it's
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: all on video. They're very proud of themselves that they
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: did all that. How is that looked at as the
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: Israelis or the aggressors here? I'll also counter that 200,000
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: Palestinians were working daily in Israel. They had to go
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: across the border, 200,000 of them a day. Now, not
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: all of them still have jobs. The Israelis said, we're
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: going to have to address if we cut that back.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: But even today, in 2026, there's 14,000 Palestinians who make
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: a living every day working in Israel. This is not
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: a genocide. This is their landmass grew. The Palestinians' property
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: is bigger today than it was 20 years ago. On
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: top of it, the population has grown. They're growing at
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: about 2% to 2.5% per year, which means they're one
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: of the fastest growing populations on earth. They target Israeli
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: civilian centers. The Israelis actually drop leaflets and tell them
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: we're going to bomb this building. Please get out of it.
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: I am so frustrated three years into this that we're
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: still hearing from the river to the sea and all
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: that sort of crap, Christopher.
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: And now you've got prominent country music singers wearing free
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: Palestine shirts on stage.
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: The people who are screaming free Palestine don't even know
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: what they're calling for. They don't even understand. That's me
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: being generous, that they're so ignorant that they don't understand
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: what they're saying. From the river to the sea, they
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: don't know what that means. Free Palestine, they don't know
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: what that means. But if I was to take it literally,
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: it means you're calling for the eradication of an entire
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: people group. You're the ones calling for a genocide if
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: I was to take it at face value. From the
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: river to the sea means slaughter all the Jews. Also,
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: globalize the Antifata, which was chanted on campuses, including Clemson.
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: They had people chanting that. All over this country, globalizing
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: Antifata means what? The Antifata is the killing of all
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: of us. They're calling for their own demise. Anybody who
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: is not one of the Muslims, that's who the Antifat
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: is against. So they're calling to kill themselves. This is
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: like the Queers for Palestine movement. You're calling for your
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: own eradication. It is one of the most bizarre things
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: we will ever live through, Christopher.
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: No doubt about it. I'm guessing you saw it, Zach Bryan,
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: and what he did.
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Zach, for those of you who don't know, he
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: played last Friday night up at Robert Craft's Stadium where
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: the Patriots play. And he wore a Free Palestine shirt.
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: Guess what he did on Saturday? He wore the same
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: Free Palestine shirt with all his band members. Robert Kraft
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: didn't ban him for wearing a Free Palestine shirt. What
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: he banned was Macklemore because Macklemore was the one calling
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: basically for the death of the Jews. And Robert Kraft,
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: as a Jew, said, guess what? That's pretty offensive to
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: say in my house. But he allows you to have
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: political expression. He didn't ban, again, Friday night. Zach wore
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: his shirt and the band wore their shirts. And then
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: Saturday they came back and they had another big concert
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: and Robert Kraft didn't have a problem with it. He's
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: got a problem with Macklemore. That turned into an Ed
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: Sheeran problem, which has now turned into a global debate
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: about whether or not there's political free speech allowed in
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: America or some sort of ridiculousness. Oh, my gosh, I'm
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: running so late, Christopher. All right, we've got to take
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: a break. It is 742.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: This is South Carolina's Morning News.
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: Brian from Sumter here.
• 49:39
  Speaker 16: The Jews have been going through persecution for thousands of
• 49:42
  Speaker 16: years and still they thrive.
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: So all these.
• 49:45
  Speaker 8: People going after them, after they're long gone.
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: The Jews are still going to be here.
• 49:49
  Speaker 11: And that's all I have to say about the Jews
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  Speaker 11: and what they've been going through.
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  Speaker 4: Well, Brian, we certainly appreciate your talk back. And yeah,
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: we are talking about what happened on October 7, three
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: years ago. And I think Brian makes a good point there.
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  Speaker 4: And Christopher, it's a very solemn day for those of
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: us who actually looked at that footage.
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah. I mean, that was and it's still horrifying
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: to this day. You're seeing a lot of it right now.
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: people replay and remember what happened on that tragic day.
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And so we'll remember that. We're going to have
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: to take a break. I think we're going to have
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: Alan Wilson coming up just after eight o'clock. So we'll
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: be back with that as we talk about the big
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: debate from last night. Who's going to be the next
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: governor of South Carolina? We'll get your thoughts on that
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: and more. It is 748.
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  Speaker 1: You're listening to South Carolina's Morning News.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: Hi there. I'm Kelly Nash, Christopher Thompson here. And, you know,
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: I just started yesterday starting to try to stream the show.
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: So if you happen to be a social media person,
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: you know, and you're sitting quietly at your desk and
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: you want to listen quietly, you could actually watch us
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: on YouTube or X or what's the other one on Facebook?
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: Facebook X and YouTube at Kelly Nash radio is all
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: those social media handles. And I'd love to know what
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: you're thinking about how, how we're doing this because I'm
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: still tinkering with it. I'm still trying to figure out
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: the technical side of it and just doing the best
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: that we can.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: It seems like it's going okay, Christopher. I wouldn't say
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: it's great. We're going to hopefully get better with it
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: as we move forward. But that's one thing. The other
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: thing that I got to get better at Christopher is
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: getting to the dang stories. I've been talking about this
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: Cornell seven story now for, an hour and I haven't
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: gotten to it and I don't have time to get
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: to it right now. All right.
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: So we'll save that for the next hour.
• 51:36
  Speaker 9: That.
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: And then I also, I think I've just confirmed that
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: Alan Wilson's going to call us here in just a
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: few minutes. So we're going to be talking last night.
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: If you didn't see the governor's debate, I felt like,
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, I, I, I commented on one of the
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: Wilson team posts, like, dang, did you have to do
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: them like that? It's like, you just kind of ended
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: the man right there. Just looked him in his eye
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: and just ended the candidacy. It seems, but perhaps the,
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: There's more work to be done in the governor's race.
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: We're talking about Christopher had the breaking news again. What
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: is it again? Five million?
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: Five million coming from the Senate Leadership Fund to boost
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: Darlene Graham's campaign in these final days.
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: So for those of you who keep calling her Denise
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: Graham or whatever the guy was saying, they don't even
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: know her name. Hopefully you're going to start seeing a
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: lot more Darlene. Well, a lot more. We haven't seen
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: any really Darlene Graham.
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: No.
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: So that will hopefully be changing here in the not-too-distant
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: future for those of you who are pulling for Team GOP.
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: And maybe a presidential visit coming before the midterms.
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: Do you think that one would be coming to our area?
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: Wouldn't that be exciting?
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: Maybe.
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: I remember I went, thanks, with Congressman Joe Wilson. I
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: went and saw Donald Trump right here at the fairgrounds.
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: Maybe he'll come for the state fair. And we'll have
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: a football game. Then it'll be chaos in Columbia. We'll
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: be back with more just after this.
• 52:51
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  Speaker 2: This is South Carolina's morning news on 103.5 FM, 560 AM, WVOC,
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• 53:06
  Speaker 4: And welcome back to it. This is Kelly Nash with
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: Christopher Thompson, and now joined on the phone by the
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: man that we all were watching last night in the debate,
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: Alan Wilson. How are you today?
• 53:16
  Speaker 14: Hey, good morning, Kelly. It's great to be with you again.
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: I love what, you know, you introduced me. I have
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: not met him, I don't think, in person. But Steve Michael,
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: who works with you, he was live tweeting the debate
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: last night. And he is a fun follow. I'll tell
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: you that. And I loved 735 is what he puts.
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: Johnson proposes communism. Wilson, with an actual answer about farms
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: and diesel tax being one of the major reasons. Now,
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: I felt as if you got all of your messaging
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: across pretty clearly last night. Was there anything that you
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: felt like maybe didn't go the way you thought it
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: would or you didn't get the words out quite right?
• 53:55
  Speaker 14: I mean, look, it's easy to Monday morning quarterback a debate.
• 53:59
  Speaker 14: I mean, it was a 58 minute debate or 55
• 54:03
  Speaker 14: minute debate to take out the commercials and, you know,
• 54:05
  Speaker 14: the very end. And you have 60 seconds to respond
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  Speaker 14: to a question and 30 seconds for rebuttals. It is
• 54:13
  Speaker 14: very difficult to have a thoughtful, in-depth conversation on any
• 54:17
  Speaker 14: issue with such short amounts of time. So yes, I
• 54:21
  Speaker 14: walked off that stage thinking, I should have said this,
• 54:23
  Speaker 14: I should have said that. But I feel like with
• 54:25
  Speaker 14: the time that I was given and not knowing the questions,
• 54:28
  Speaker 14: I feel like I was able to make my case.
• 54:29
  Speaker 14: At the end of the day, I recognize, and I'm
• 54:35
  Speaker 14: running on a campaign, recognizes that South Carolina is not perfect.
• 54:39
  Speaker 14: There are a lot of issues and we got to
• 54:41
  Speaker 14: address them. We got to upend the status quo and
• 54:43
  Speaker 14: I want to focus on affordability. But my opponent was attacking,
• 54:47
  Speaker 14: pretty much blaming the Republican Party for all the woes
• 54:51
  Speaker 14: and the ills of South Carolina. And don't get me wrong,
• 54:54
  Speaker 14: there are Republicans and Democrats who have impeded progress, but
• 55:01
  Speaker 14: we are the fastest growing state in the country. And
• 55:05
  Speaker 14: people are fleeing states like New Jersey and Illinois and
• 55:08
  Speaker 14: Jermaine Johnson's home state of California to come to states
• 55:11
  Speaker 14: like South Carolina. In fact, he came here seeking opportunity,
• 55:14
  Speaker 14: and good for him. I don't say it as an insult.
• 55:16
  Speaker 14: What I'm saying is if this is such a hellscape,
• 55:19
  Speaker 14: then why is he here and not California? Why are
• 55:23
  Speaker 14: people coming here? They're coming here because it's far, far
• 55:27
  Speaker 14: worse in democratically governed states. And so, yes, we have
• 55:30
  Speaker 14: a lot of work to do. I'm not excusing it.
• 55:32
  Speaker 14: I'm not going to defend it. you know, the status quo,
• 55:35
  Speaker 14: but I'm very excited about the future. And I'm very
• 55:37
  Speaker 14: excited about, you know, what we were able to do
• 55:39
  Speaker 14: last night on the debate stage.
• 55:40
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's a great contrast. You've made the same
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: one with Pamela Evett being from Ohio and how you're like,
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: I'm so glad you were able to find a great
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: opportunity here in South Carolina. Like so many of the
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: rest of us were, I'm originally from Connecticut. I moved
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: down here as well.
• 55:52
  Speaker 14: My wife, Jennifer's from New Jersey.
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: There you go. All the smart people are getting out
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: of the blue states and coming to South Carolina. One
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: of the things that I thought you said that was
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: so effective, and I commented on the Team Wilson post
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: about it, was the fact that You know, he has proposed,
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: we're talking about Jermaine Johnson, as a legislator, it was
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: like 70 different bills or something, and he's passed zero.
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: How could you possibly be considered a leader when you
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: currently are unable to get any legislation passed? We should expect,
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: I would assume, your past record would be somewhat indicative
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: of what we should expect moving forward.
• 56:27
  Speaker 14: Well, that's right. I mean, he's been in the Statehouse
• 56:29
  Speaker 14: for six years. He has been the primary sponsor where
• 56:32
  Speaker 14: it was his bill that he wrote 70 times, and
• 56:35
  Speaker 14: Zero past loss. Zero. In fact, we looked at his
• 56:39
  Speaker 14: voting record. He has missed votes nearly 700 times. And
• 56:43
  Speaker 14: I think when you're the governor and when you're the
• 56:45
  Speaker 14: attorney general, which I've been for 15 and a half years,
• 56:48
  Speaker 14: every single decision you make in the executive branch is
• 56:51
  Speaker 14: like a vote. except you don't have the luxury of
• 56:55
  Speaker 14: abstaining from a decision. You have to make decisions, and
• 56:58
  Speaker 14: sometimes you have to make difficult decisions, and sometimes you
• 57:01
  Speaker 14: make decisions and they're the wrong decision and you have
• 57:03
  Speaker 14: to adjust because of the information you had at the time. So,
• 57:06
  Speaker 14: you know, he is running. I was going to make
• 57:10
  Speaker 14: the joke last night, Kelly. You know, he's a professional
• 57:12
  Speaker 14: basketball player. You know, if you took 70 shots from
• 57:16
  Speaker 14: the court and you missed all of them, you made
• 57:18
  Speaker 14: zero shots, they would bench you, not make you head coach.
• 57:22
  Speaker 14: And that's what he's asking for.
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he wants to be the team captain, and he's
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: 0 for 70. That's unbelievable. Well, what's next for Team Wilson?
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: Are you on the campaign trail, or are you just
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: buckling down with the A.G.
• 57:35
  Speaker 14: No, no, we are on the campaign. I mean, like
• 57:38
  Speaker 14: I said, there's 27 days to go. I owe it
• 57:41
  Speaker 14: to the people of this state, to Republicans, to independents,
• 57:44
  Speaker 14: to even Democrats who are open to me, to run
• 57:46
  Speaker 14: through the tape, to not assume anything. I mean, we
• 57:49
  Speaker 14: got some good polling numbers yesterday, but the only poll
• 57:51
  Speaker 14: I care about is the poll that the voters start
• 57:55
  Speaker 14: in the next week and a half and all the
• 57:58
  Speaker 14: way through November 3rd. It's the vote. And so we're
• 58:00
  Speaker 14: going to be going from one corner of the state
• 58:02
  Speaker 14: to the other, and I'm really excited.
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you should be. Like I said, I think you
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: have a double digit lead in the polls that I
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: was looking at. So that's fantastic news for you. And
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: hopefully that's enough to, you know, kind of bump up
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: the entire Republican ticket. I got a door knocker somebody
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: gave me the other day that had the entire Republican
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: ticket on it from, you know, what's his name, Cody
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: at the agricultural thing all the way on up to
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: you and Mike. And so we've got a lot of
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: great candidates. Let's let's see what Team GOP can put
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: together in this election cycle.
• 58:31
  Speaker 14: Well, look, I appreciate you and Christopher do such a
• 58:34
  Speaker 14: great job. I've been listening to you all morning. I've
• 58:36
  Speaker 14: enjoyed the analysis, obviously, on the anniversary of October the
• 58:40
  Speaker 14: 7th and what's going on in the Middle East. Your
• 58:42
  Speaker 14: interview with the Democratic nominee was very informative, and obviously
• 58:47
  Speaker 14: I read a lot into those answers, and I think
• 58:49
  Speaker 14: you said it best. Politics is a team sport. It
• 58:52
  Speaker 14: doesn't matter how moderate somebody is. If they win, they
• 58:56
  Speaker 14: empower the broad coalition of the radical left at the
• 58:59
  Speaker 14: national level. And there's a lot of great moderate Democrats
• 59:01
  Speaker 14: and people I work with. But if Chuck Schumer or
• 59:04
  Speaker 14: someone like him gets the gavel, it's going to be
• 59:07
  Speaker 14: a very, very different story at the national level.
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: Absolutely. Well, Alan Wilson, thank you for checking in with
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: South Carolina's Morning News.
• 59:14
  Speaker 14: Thank you.
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: All right. It is 8.09.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: From the Midlands to the Lowcountry, this is South Carolina's
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: Morning News.
• 59:21
  Speaker 16: The last energy. It's a great thing that people are
• 59:25
  Speaker 16: moving to South Carolina. I think that's a double-edged sword.
• 59:30
  Speaker 16: People moving to South Carolina from blue states and bringing
• 59:35
  Speaker 16: their politics with them. Fox News had an article where
• 59:43
  Speaker 16: South Carolina is going to be moving from a solid
• 59:46
  Speaker 16: red state to a likely red state.
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: I think what he's talking about there. Thank you for
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: your talk back, by the way. I love the fact
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: that people engage with the show using the talk back
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: feature on the I Heart Radio app. I think what
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: he's talking about is the actual Graham race, which that
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: did move to a likely red position. But South Carolina
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: continues to be about a plus 10 type of state.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: For the Republicans, many of the people, I mean, you
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: can't say you can't make blanket statements. Everybody's moving here
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: because they're escaping. But a lot of the people that
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: are moving to South Carolina, I was like my friend Dave,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: who might be listening this morning. He lives down in
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: the low country. He moved here because his daughter moved
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: here originally from Chicago. She moved here when she got
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: married and they said, we need better taxes and we
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: need better governance than we're getting in Illinois. My gosh.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: And a safer place.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: And a safer place too. And so they came down to,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: I think they're living in Mount Pleasant. And then he
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: decided to follow his daughter down here. And he's talking
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: about what a world of difference it had been. Dave
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: had only lived in blue states previously. He lived with me,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: not with me, but lived in the same state as
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: me in Connecticut. And that's how we knew each other.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: We worked together in radio and He was an ESPN employee.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: He ended up working for ESPN out in Chicago. And
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: then he was working with the college football gang and
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: covering the country. But he ended up settling in South
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: Carolina because of our Republican-dominated culture. The fact that we
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: want– again, if you've never lived in a blue state,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: you don't understand how oppressive the government is. And when
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: you hear people– it's almost like I imagine how these–
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: cuban refugees feel when they hear people talking about well
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: we should try a little bit of socialism and they're
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: like my gosh you have no idea what it's like
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: and once they get out from underneath it by the
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: way real quick if you uh i think it was
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: ben shapiro was doing a great piece yesterday if you
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: look at south america just you know all of it
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: all of the countries of south america are now voting
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: right they're all moving to the right why He coordinates
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: it with USAID, the defunding of USAID, and suddenly you're
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: talking about hundreds of millions of dollars that you and I,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: our tax dollars, used to go into propaganda to help
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: push things to the left in those countries. Well, USAID
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: is out of the elections game, and suddenly everybody's moving
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: to the right again. Again, without propaganda, I don't know
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: how the left wins anything, but I think that's a
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: fantastic sign to see that in our hemisphere, you know,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: the South Americans. All of them, Brazil, all of it,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: they're all moving to the right these days, and that's
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: great news. We're going to take a quick break, and
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: I will finally get to the shocking Cornell update. I
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: promise we're going to get to that coming up. It's 817.
• 1:02:35
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• 1:02:38
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• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: All right, so some updates in the Cornell story. Last night,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: the Cornell accuser, the Jane Doe, her attorney was on
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: CNN saying, basically not implying, he was saying that the
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: frat house had a meeting specifically to try to get
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: their stories in line to cover this up. That kind
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: of contradicts what they had told police at the time,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: who the police asked them. is that what the point
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: of this meeting was? And they said, we have a
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: meeting every week, sir. This is just our regular weekly meeting.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: We didn't have anything special. And yes, we did discuss it.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: Of course, we discussed what happened, but there's no cover-up involved.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: So he's contradicting what they told the police at the time.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: That's an interesting update. Also, Cornell has now tapped Sally
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: Yates to lead an internal probe into how this was handled.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: Sally Yates is most famous, I think, because she was
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: a Barack Obama appointee who was fired by Trump after
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: she disagreed with the idea that the president could ban
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: illegal aliens from coming into the country. That's a bizarre
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: position for an attorney general to take, or the acting
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: assistant attorney general, I think at the time, or whatever
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: her title was when she was fired. But she now joins,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: you got Big Tish James has been appointed as well.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: So it's the entire Democrat party is kind of coalescing
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: At the same time, the shocking update that I saw
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: yesterday was ABC News had done a freedom of information request,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: and they found— this is really unbelievable to me. One of
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: the guys who was accused is a guy named Matthew Ingalls.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: Matthew Ingalls played for the rugby team, and Matthew Ingalls
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: sent a letter to— in February of 2025 to Cornell's
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: Title IX office, which ABC News got, and it says, quote,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: you received information that I was sodomized by her while
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: I was incapacitated in November, and you never once thought
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: to alert me to my rights under these procedures as
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: a survivor of a sexual assault? So one of the
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: seven is saying he is a victim, and he's been
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: saying it for over a year now.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 5: And so who covered that up?
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: That's what he's saying.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: This is a bizarre story.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 5: It's a bizarre story, and it's the story, it sounds like,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: of everyone who was involved was too intoxicated, too incapacitated
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: to give consent. And if you can say that about
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 5: the woman, it sounds like you can apparently say that
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 5: about some of the men too.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: Well, and her text messages, I think, or it wasn't
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: even a text message. She told it to the police
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: that she rolled in, that was the phrase, rolled into
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: this frat house 10 shots deep. So 10 shots of
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: alcohol before arriving, probably not, I would think, at that point,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: unable to give consent because you certainly can't drive a
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: vehicle after 10 shots. You can't do a lot of
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: things after 10 shots. So this is, I mean, in
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: the big scheme of this story, this story is a mess.
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  Speaker 4: This is just, and you know, for people who are protesting,
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  Speaker 4: you ought to be just be protesting binge drinking and
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: drug culture in general, because that's what this is.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it's sounds like, I mean, this is, This
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  Speaker 5: is a tragic case where there may not be a villain.
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  Speaker 5: Everybody involved should be ashamed.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, horrific things happened. And it seems like a
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: lot of people were either knowingly or unknowingly a part
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: of it. This is, again, I've never heard the claim
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: that the person who is being accused of the assault
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: is also claiming to be a victim of the assault
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: from the person who is accusing him of the assault.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: This is a wow. This is wow kind of stuff
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: that we're getting into now with Cornell. But Again, the
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: eyes of the nation are now focused on Cornell as
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: you get Sally Yates and Tish James and everybody's talking
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: about it. AOC is throwing her hat into it. Everybody's
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: got something to say. So do you have something to
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  Speaker 4: say about it? Use the talkback feature. We'd love to
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: hear what you're thinking. That's the little microphone on the
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  Speaker 4: iHeartRadio app. We'll be back in a minute. It's 827.
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  Speaker 2: Live from the state capitol, this is South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 10: In reference to the Cornell University situation, I don't see
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  Speaker 10: how all the young men can claim that they were
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 10: intoxicated when there were some young men that were very
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 10: aware of what was going on and they were sending
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  Speaker 10: messages to their friends.
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  Speaker 14: About what was happening and inviting.
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  Speaker 10: Them over to participate. And some young men responding before
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 10: they get there, is it still happening so they can
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 10: come participate? So obviously those guys have no defense when
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 10: it comes to alcohol.
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  Speaker 4: Well, certainly appreciate your talk back. And I would point
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  Speaker 4: out one of the people that you're referencing in those
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: text messages is the guy that we just referenced, Ingalls.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: He is the guy who texted out something about... Well,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to say what he said, but he
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: said something very foul. But he's also the one who
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: then sent the letter to the Title IX office saying, hey,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: I'm finding out that I was... sexually assaulted by her. Um,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: and he sent that in February of last year. Now
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: he allegedly passed out and that's when that took place.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: And then he woke up and then rejoined the chaos.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: It's a, it's a very ugly story at Cornell. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: One of, one of her statements to police immediately after
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 5: is she said she had to wake one of the
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 5: guys up during the intercourse and Yeah. I mean, they
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: had done so much ketamine and that the other one,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: as soon as he was done, he started dry heaving.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: She had to go over and make sure he was OK.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: It's a it's a very ugly, ugly story.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But we'll keep our eyes on it and see if
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: anything develops it. just seems like a lot of people
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: are attracted to it because it's so, I don't know, disgusting, debauchery,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: all that sort of stuff.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 5: There's a huge sit-in planned on campus today.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 6: So....
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: Maybe a slight segue into college, but first let me
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: just start by saying the National Hurricane Center at 10 p.m.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: last night had this storm. And how do you pronounce
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: this thing again? It's like Iglesias.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: Isaias.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: Isaias. What a bizarre name. What happened to names like Dorothy?
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: Things like that they used to call them.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think we used to be all female
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: names for a while. Then people thought that that was sexist.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: So then they started putting in male names as well.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: But whatever Isaias is going to be right now at
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: 10 o'clock, it seemed like it was going to hit
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: pretty much Mobile, Alabama, and then move up and then
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: eventually kind of move to the right. And by say eventually,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: I mean like near Ohio. The most recent update at
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: 4 a.m. still has it hitting 10. mobile alabama and
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: then staying to the left and so it's going to
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: go through indiana is what they're projecting at this point
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: obviously things change with these storms and we'll keep an
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: eye on it but however christopher that plays into what
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: is many are calling could be the college football game.
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  Speaker 5: Of the year yeah the sec is keeping a close
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  Speaker 5: eye on this because their marquee game saturday night is
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 5: in tuscaloosa featuring georgia and alabama So no change yet,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 5: but they are keeping an eye on that. And for
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 5: Gamecock fans who are traveling down to Gainesville, there is
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: going to be a lot of rain as a result
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: of this storm that is going to be lingering for days.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 5: And they say the most may wind up being Saturday.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and so that's just– is Clemson off this week?
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 16: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: So they're not– you don't have to worry about it
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: as a Clemson fan. But for those of you who
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: are– boy, you've got to be a diehard Gamecock fan
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: if you're going to Florida for this, right? I mean, well,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: you know what? Maybe this is the time that you
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: end the– what are we like? Oh, for whatever now
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: with the SEC play. Maybe this is it. We're going
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: to finally get an SEC victory on the road in
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: the swamp. In the rain. In the rain. It could happen.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: And the best Gamecock coverage will start three hours before kickoff.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: What time is kickoff again?
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 5: It is at 1245. We'll start at 930 Saturday morning.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: Get it going early with Christopher Thompson right here. If
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: you're in Columbia on 103.5 FM, 560 AM WVOC. Of course,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: if you're listening to us in the Lowcountry, you can
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: still listen to those stations on the iHeartRadio app. We'll
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: take a break and be back. It's 836.
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  Speaker 1: This is South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome back. This is Kelly Nash with Christopher Thompson. And, uh,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 4: we did talk to Dr. Annie Andrews earlier in the show.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: If you want to hear all of it, whether it's
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 4: just the excerpts that we played on the air or
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: the entire interview, you can get the entire Dr. Annie
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: Andrews interview on the national briefing podcast. That's on the
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: I heart radio app to spell it like my name,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: N A S H I O N A L the
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: national briefing. Um, in the meantime, uh, We were just
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: getting the updates that they're going to spend $ 5 million here.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: The Senate, that's decided by Tim Scott, correct? If I
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: understand that correctly.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure that's the same PAC that he, well,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 5: I don't know if he directs that PAC or not.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: I know he's making the decisions regarding which races they're
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: competing in and which not. So he's the one who
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: made the call that they can't win in North Carolina
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: and or Georgia and pulled the money out. And I
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: guess some of that money is now going to be
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: diverted into South Carolina to try to help Darlene Graham.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 4: So a $ 5 million ad buy coming for her. So
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: for those of you complaining that you haven't seen her,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: you're going to start seeing a lot of her in
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: the next couple of days. But, you know, I was
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: also condemning those of you who want to use the
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: Right in Ralph campaign because there is no way for
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: Ralph Norman to win. But at the same time, anybody
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: that you're taking away from the GOP, which is Darlene
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 4: Graham at this point, you are, in fact, emboldening and
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: empowering the left. I will point out that down in Texas,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: there's a guy named James Tallarico. This is James Tallarico
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: on a recent conference call, I think, with a bunch
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: of educators.
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  Speaker 17: I think we have to understand, especially for the white
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 17: educators that are on this call, that these violent hierarchies,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 17: these systems, white supremacy, heteropatriarchy, economic exploitation, those things have
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 17: have colonized our own minds.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: What in the flip is that guy actually even talking about?
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: No idea. We're colonizing our own minds, and this guy
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: could be a senator. And again, these are the types
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: of people. Now, Tallarico's not going to be in a
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: position of power if he goes up there. Dr. Annie
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: was making the point on our show that she would
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: have some sort of political capital because everybody would be
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: so impressed in the Democrat Party that she had won
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: in South Carolina. I'm not saying that she wouldn't be,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: That wouldn't be an impressive feat for somebody to win
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: in South Carolina as a Democrat. But I don't think
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: that you're going to get any power out of it. Tallarico,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 4: I don't think, would have a lot of power. But
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: he would be more in alignment with, you know, the
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: Cory Bookers of the world, the Elizabeth Warrens of the world,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: the people who are actually the power brokers would align
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: more with him than they would Annie Andrews. But yes,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: we have a systemic white supremacy problem in America, according
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: to James Tallarico, which is now colonizing our minds.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 5: I stole a little bit, but you've said it twice,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 5: and I still don't know what it means.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: I wish I could show Christopher's face on camera right now,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: because he just has this completely— it' s a very earnest, puzzled look.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: Very puzzled.
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  Speaker 5: By the way, the National Republican Senatorial Committee, that's the
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: one that Tim Scott chairs.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 5: This Senate Leadership Committee is the top leadership-funded PAC that
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 5: is— It was actually founded by allies of Mitch McConnell
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 5: way back in the day, 2015. But this is this
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 5: is the super PAC that's aligned with Republican Senate.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: So this is a super PAC.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 11: Correct.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: It's coming along. OK, so the super PAC has made
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: a five million dollar investment in the Darlene Graham campaign.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: And look for those ads starting soon. We will get
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: maybe you got thoughts on whether are you. This is weird.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: Are you happy to see more political advertising on your
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 4: television and your Internet and all that stuff coming soon?
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 5: Early voting starts Monday, October 19th. I mean, it's less
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 5: than two weeks away, and we have not seen anything
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 5: from the Graham campaign.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Alan Wilson was just talking about that when he
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: joined us earlier after the debate from last night where
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: he was up against Jermaine Johnson for the governor, that
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: it's like 10 days away from now. So it's coming
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: very soon, the early voting. The midterms are upon us.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: And Darlene Graham's campaign is going to get a $ 5
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: million boost here to finally really start getting to the ground. And, Christopher,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: you said that the president may be coming to South
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: Carolina as well.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 5: Well, that's in reporting from The New York Times and
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 5: from the Associated Press, saying that Trump is considering one
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 5: more visit to South Carolina before the midterms.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: I mean, anything that— look, this was his candidate. He picked
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 4: this candidate. Nobody had her on the radar as somebody
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: that they were thinking— again, it was just a nice gesture—
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: to fill out the term. That's what Henry McMaster thought
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: he was giving her. And then it's turned into, no,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: it's now a Senate race. And so that's only because
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 4: the president encouraged her to run and then in injected $ 860, 000
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 4: of MAGA ink money just before the election. for the primary.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 4: So this is his candidate and she's in trouble. She's
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: got a one point lead. Some would say, obviously that's
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 4: a statistical tie. He needs to do what he can
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: to bail this out.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 5: I would think, well, I'm sure he didn't think he
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 5: would have to come back to South Carolina a second
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 5: time for her.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: But I love it here. I love you, South Carolina.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: You guys are the best.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 5: All right. Well, he has to play golf in Myrtle beach, right?
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 4: Yes, probably him. Russell Fry. Maybe Darlene will take up
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: a game of golf.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 4: We'll see how that works out. We'll take a break
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: and be back with more. It's 847.
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  Speaker 1: You're listening to South Carolina's Morning News.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: Hi there. Kelly Nash, Christopher Thompson, and we were talking
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: about Tim Scott yesterday. He was on Fox News talking
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 4: about James Tallarico and that Senate race.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: Paxton is within striking distance. James Tallarico believes in six genders,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: a non-binary God. He believes that capitalism is white supremacy.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: Here's a person who's tried to hide his beliefs, but
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: he said it on video. So we have it all.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: They're playing it over and over again in Texas. Texas
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: wants someone who's conservative, who's consistently compassionate about the future.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: That means that Ken Paxton will be the next senator.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: James Tallarico, way out of step.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 5: And it turns out Hassan Piker considers him his protege.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 4: That's not going to be helpful. Hassan Piker considers Tallarico
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 4: his protege. I had not heard that.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: So thank you, Brian, for bringing that to our attention.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 4: That is an unbelievable development. The far left is getting
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 4: more and more bizarre, it seems, by the day. And again,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: Christopher Thompson still trying to figure out what Tallarico is
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 4: talking about.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 5: Colonizing my mind.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yes. And again, that's one of those trick bags
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 4: that they like to put us in. If you don't
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 4: admit that capitalism is white supremacy, if you don't admit
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 4: that you are a white supremacist yourself, then you are
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 4: the worst form of white supremacist. So if you say
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: you're a white supremacist, they can offer you forgiveness, but
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 4: there's a certain penance you must pay. But if you
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: don't admit it, then you're the worst. So I'm not
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 4: sure which camp you fall into, but either one of
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 4: them is bad.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 5: So I owe reparations, I guess.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, of course.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 4: We all do. Christopher, we're keeping an eye on this.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: I guess it's going to be a hurricane before it's
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 4: all said and done.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 5: Looks like it.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: And it's going to apparently hit right around Mobile, Alabama.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 4: Massive storm surges. They're already starting to see rising waters there.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: But as this thing builds out and heads into the weekend,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 4: it's going to have massive effects, I would think, on
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 4: a lot of college football. You're pointing out the fact
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: that Where the Gamecocks are going to be, there should
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 4: be some massive rain. Although, I guess on the good news,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: that doesn't mean that there'll be lightning. They could play
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: in just rain. It's not going to be like massive
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 4: winds where they're playing.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 5: No, but Florida is always humid and it is expected
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 5: to be humid this weekend. So there's always a chance
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 5: that a storm could strike up.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: The Georgia-Alabama game is now... The one that everybody's talking about.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 5: Well, I guess it's in play. The SEC just simply
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 5: saying we always study forecasts. We always study whatever's happening
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 5: near a particular game. So they're not making any distinction
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 5: right now, but they are keeping an eye on it.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the last Hurricane Center update I saw
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 4: was Mobile would be hit sometime Friday night around 8
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: or 9 o'clock is when the eye would be hitting it. Obviously,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 4: that would be a huge problem. And again, we're not
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 4: that far from Tuscaloosa at that point. No.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 5: And, yeah, there's a landfall somewhere between New Orleans and
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 5: Panama City. So that's a pretty wide part of that
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 5: Gulf Coast.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 4: All right. We're going to keep an eye on that
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 4: and other things and look forward to getting back with
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 4: you again tomorrow morning just after 6 with South Carolina's
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 4: Morning News. Have a great day.