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LIVE Community Hour Replay (July 17th, 2025) · Beyond Labels Premium

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SPEAKER_09: There's two issues.
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SPEAKER_09: There's two issues.
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SPEAKER_09: One is one is rot, uh, because as you know, I'm a big believer in in the the carbonaceous diaper, the the the deep bedding, deep litter.
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SPEAKER_09: So um so over time uh eventually those studs and the floor stuff are gonna rot uh you know as you start as you start using it.
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SPEAKER_09: And of course, you know, um well that's just gonna happen over time.
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SPEAKER_09: Now it'll probably be, you know, what eight, nine, maybe even ten years till that happens, but I just I just want to put that out there.
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SPEAKER_09: Sure, sure.
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SPEAKER_09: Okay, the second thing is rats.
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SPEAKER_09: And so as if if and when the floor begins to deteriorate uh with that gap to the to the ground, uh rats can come up in.
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SPEAKER_09: And so to do this, you need rat proof.
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SPEAKER_09: So one of the things that you could do right now, just to kind of help you get running, is to just take get some old um some some just used metal roofing, you know, like corrugated roofing, um, and and put that on the floor and up the sides about 24 inches.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Or would you even use chicken wire or would you prefer that metal?
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SPEAKER_09: No, I'd prefer the metal uh because it'll be a lot easier to it'll be because you what you're trying to do is keep the litter off of the off the studs.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay, sure.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay, that makes that makes sense actually, yeah.
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SPEAKER_09: A lot of that roofing comes in about you know 27 27 inches uh in width, or even or even three feet.
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SPEAKER_09: So just just lay it, lay it around the edges.
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SPEAKER_09: That'll keep your bedding off of it, and put it on the floor, that'll keep the rats out, and you'll probably you know get an extra 10 years out of your out of your box.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Now that sounds good.
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SPEAKER_09: The other thing I have to do is on the door, your entrance door, you'll have to make sure that you have some sort of a um of a of a a step up there, you know, that that you can maybe you'll maybe you'll put a block on the outside.
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SPEAKER_09: Anyway, uh you're you're gonna want to think about some sort of a rat-proof uh entranceway so you can get in, but rats can't.
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SPEAKER_09: Okay that's gonna be a pretty, you know, fairly flush, you know, tight door, but uh you you can do that.
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SPEAKER_09: That's not gonna be a big problem.
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SPEAKER_09: But I I would I would just line it with some old uh junk steel roofing.
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SPEAKER_09: That'll be the cheapest, easiest thing to do, and you'll be in good shape.
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SPEAKER_02: Awesome.
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SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_08: Awesome.
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SPEAKER_08: Okay, let's jump to the next question.
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SPEAKER_08: Let's go to Andrew.
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SPEAKER_08: Um, is it Beeler?
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SPEAKER_05: Byler.
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SPEAKER_08: Byler.
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SPEAKER_08: Oh, welcome, Andrew.
2:42
SPEAKER_08: It's good to see you here.
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SPEAKER_05: Thank you.
2:45
SPEAKER_05: So my question is about what I call adult aches and pains.
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SPEAKER_05: So it's basically the two questions.
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SPEAKER_05: I don't believe that God made us to be in pain for the for half of our life.
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SPEAKER_05: And my dad has had back problems since he's been 18.
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SPEAKER_05: I'm 21, I've had a sore back for the last year.
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SPEAKER_05: And I was just wondering what that what causes that, how to get rid of it.
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SPEAKER_05: And then the second question is about chiropractors.
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SPEAKER_05: I know chiropractors are an outside source coming in, and God designed us so that we don't need that.
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SPEAKER_05: But maybe it's the best solution for today, or is is it even healthier what they do at at chiropractor places?
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SPEAKER_08: Okay, great questions.
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SPEAKER_08: So uh Joel, do you want me to go first and then you jump in, or you want to go?
3:35
SPEAKER_08: I'm not gonna go at all.
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SPEAKER_09: You uh this is okay, this is your this is your Bailey Wick.
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unknown: Okay.
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SPEAKER_08: Bailey wick.
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SPEAKER_08: You're funny.
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SPEAKER_08: Um, okay.
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SPEAKER_08: So my first question is where's the location of the back pain in your father and yourself?
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SPEAKER_05: I'm not sure about my dad, but for me, it's my lower back.
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SPEAKER_08: The lower back?
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SPEAKER_08: Okay.
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SPEAKER_05: Some muscle to somewhere in the lower back.
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SPEAKER_08: Okay.
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SPEAKER_08: So let's start with the chiropractic question first.
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SPEAKER_08: I think just like how Joel says there's good farmers and there's not so good farmers, I think it's the same for chiropractor.
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SPEAKER_08: Um, ideally, you know, we wouldn't need to rely on these outside sources um to help us to bring our bodies, minds, and spirits back into balance.
4:21
SPEAKER_08: But sometimes there can be a benefit to it.
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SPEAKER_08: Um, I had a really bad chiropractor one time that was recommended to me and ruptured um a disc.
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SPEAKER_08: But it was amazing how God heals all things because it was a chiropractor who then helped me not die from the autoimmune condition by teaching me about functional testing.
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SPEAKER_08: So, you know, God brought me full circle on that one about forgiveness there.
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SPEAKER_08: Um, so I do think that some can be helpful and some and some could be not, you know, but just even my my story alone is an example of that.
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SPEAKER_08: Um so pain in general, I completely agree with you.
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SPEAKER_08: God did not design us to be in pain.
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SPEAKER_08: And unfortunately, pain is one of the top symptoms uh in our modern culture.
5:10
SPEAKER_08: And so a lot of people are starting to believe that, oh, well, that just happens as you get older.
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SPEAKER_08: Like pain is just something that comes on as you get older.
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SPEAKER_08: That's just a normal process of aging.
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SPEAKER_08: And I do not believe in that.
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SPEAKER_08: Um, and I don't think the historic records bear that out either.
5:27
SPEAKER_08: So um the lower back pain, you know, as you know, everything has um a root cause to it on the emotional level.
5:35
SPEAKER_08: And so typically lower back pain is uh associated with a fear of lack of money, like a lack of feeling like you have financial support.
5:47
SPEAKER_08: It doesn't mean it's always that way.
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SPEAKER_08: It's just uh that's the most common association between it.
5:54
SPEAKER_08: Uh pain can come about for a multitude of reasons.
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SPEAKER_08: Like I said, this is one of the top symptoms of all chronic and autoimmune conditions is pain.
6:05
SPEAKER_08: So um when we when we deal with pain, we go through the same steps we would take as though you had any other type of autoimmune or chronic condition, whether it be lupus or heart disease or diabetes or cancer.
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SPEAKER_08: There's a methodical roadmap that we go through to try to remove the triggers.
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SPEAKER_08: So um one of them could actually just be lack of um use of the back, you know, being a sedentary lifestyle.
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SPEAKER_08: In my experience, you know, the clients that come see me, that's not usually the case, but that is one of the um check marks that we want to check off.
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SPEAKER_08: Um, there's usually a dietary uh interaction there, and that could be anything from it could be grains.
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SPEAKER_08: Uh, you know, Dr.
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SPEAKER_08: Peter Osborne, who we have on, had on the program a couple of times, he wrote that book, No, No Grain, No Pain.
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SPEAKER_08: So there is an association there for some people that it could be grains.
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SPEAKER_08: For some people, it could be dairy.
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SPEAKER_08: For some people, it could be oxalates, right?
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SPEAKER_08: Uh, for some people, it could just be toxic overloads.
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SPEAKER_08: So maybe not the food itself, but what's on the food, like glyphosate or microplastics.
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SPEAKER_08: So, what we do is we methodically go through all these different triggers.
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SPEAKER_08: Um, we look at your exposure to EMFs, for example.
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SPEAKER_08: Um, any type of these imbalances, micronutrient deficiencies can also cause pain.
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SPEAKER_08: So we go through a roadmap to figure out methodically, you know, which one of these is the culprit in your case, which one if of these is pushing you over your unique tipping point.
7:40
SPEAKER_08: Um, so this comes back to, oh, wait, are you still there?
7:44
SPEAKER_08: Oh, there you are.
7:45
SPEAKER_08: Okay, sorry, it's shifting people around.
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SPEAKER_08: So um, Andrew, this comes back to how Joel and I have talked about how there is this basic roadmap.
7:53
SPEAKER_08: And I mean, Joel, we should we should put that on the next one, the next podcast the next schedule for uh the podcasts.
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SPEAKER_08: The we'll record a podcast to walk you through this whole roadmap um of how you can yourself then this one reason why I like the roadmap because it's empowering, right?
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SPEAKER_08: It gives you your own checklist of what you can go through methodically and try to figure out what is causing your unique um symptoms and you can address it.
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SPEAKER_08: So we can we can record a podcast on that and walk you through it, and we can also attach to it um the different tests that if someone wants to choose tests to help them to tease out these nuances, they can go that testing route.
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SPEAKER_08: I've also posted that PDF in um on the Discord channel.
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SPEAKER_08: So if you are interested in a testing route, that's available and you can order most of those tests yourself without having um a doctor's um script for it.
8:52
SPEAKER_08: Um so so in a I know I'm getting just a broad generalized answer because pain is a generalized symptom, right?
9:02
SPEAKER_08: It it could be a symptom of lack of use, it could be uh an issue of sleep, it could be posture, it could be a misalignment of the spine, which is when the chiropractor can come into and you know to help.
9:16
SPEAKER_08: And if you didn't want to do a chiropractor, there are some um great physical therapists.
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SPEAKER_08: So what I did was I switched from a chiropractor to a physical therapist, and she was able to actually just massage um very like elegantly different muscle imbalances that help my spine naturally move itself back into alignment.
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SPEAKER_08: So there are some really good physical therapists.
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SPEAKER_08: If I was doing it again, I'd go to a physical therapist, but that's that's just me.
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SPEAKER_08: Um, so there's those to look at, and you can start looking at your diet too.
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SPEAKER_08: That's often a culprit.
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SPEAKER_08: In the meantime, while you're looking through those things um to find your unique triggers, you can try things like um frankincense.
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SPEAKER_08: So rubbing frankincense um directly on the area.
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SPEAKER_08: Um, you know, to try small, um, a small spot first to make sure that you're not sensitive, sensitive to it.
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SPEAKER_08: I would smell it first.
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SPEAKER_08: Um, if you're able to get the frankincense essential oil, smell it and see how your body responds, and then try it on a small area, and then you can apply it directly.
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SPEAKER_08: That's what I did.
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SPEAKER_08: Pain was um was what was my top symptom as well.
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SPEAKER_08: Um, and turmeric.
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SPEAKER_08: So if you're not on blood thinners, for example, turmeric is often a good option um because it is a natural um painkinner killer as well as an anti-inflammatory.
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SPEAKER_08: So those are just a couple things you could try.
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SPEAKER_08: Did that help at all?
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it was kind of a broad overview of what I already knew.
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SPEAKER_05: But yeah, so I just gotta look into it and study out the different routes.
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SPEAKER_08: Okay, yeah, you want to just go through methodically then, um, and just eliminate for yourself, you know, um, on that roadmap.
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SPEAKER_08: And usually diet is a big culprit because you eat food every day.
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SPEAKER_08: So um you might want to just ask intuitively, ask your body if it's reacting to something that's that's currently in your diet, you know, and then start removing that food.
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SPEAKER_08: Um are you trying to mark?
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SPEAKER_05: No, I'm not.
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SPEAKER_08: Okay.
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SPEAKER_08: So yeah, so to help mitigate it, I might do that.
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SPEAKER_08: I also did tapping, emotional freedom release, you know.
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SPEAKER_08: The um uh are you familiar with tapping?
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SPEAKER_08: The emotional freedom technique.
11:39
SPEAKER_08: Um, gosh, I forgot the name of it.
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SPEAKER_08: We all post it in Discord, but when my pain was at a 10, I would do tapping and it would drop it to like a three or a four within 30 seconds.
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SPEAKER_08: So so you can also do that to bring the body back into balance.
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SPEAKER_08: Okay.
11:57
SPEAKER_08: Um okay, so the next one is um from Chris.
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SPEAKER_08: My question's also for Joel.
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SPEAKER_08: I'm adding beef cattle to my small farm and we'll be utilizing about nine to ten acres of a neighbor's old conventional field.
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SPEAKER_08: This land was previously in a corn and soybean rotation and was sprayed with glyphosate for several years.
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SPEAKER_08: For the past two years, it's been neglected.
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SPEAKER_08: No crops, no spraying, no animals.
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SPEAKER_08: Um, just bush hogged a few times annually to keep growth somewhat controlled.
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SPEAKER_08: Currently, the field's vegetation primarily consists of dog fennel, horse nettle, and Queen Anne's lace, with only a small presence of white clover, crab grass, and wild garlic.
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SPEAKER_08: My question is: what would your approach be to convert this old monocrop field to pasture?
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SPEAKER_09: So the fastest way to convert that vegetation is with mob stocking, herbivorous solar conversion, lignified carbon sequestration, fertilization.
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SPEAKER_09: And so when you go over there with your animals, there that you'd be surprised how much of that stuff that the cows will eat, especially if they're clumped up in a in a small group.
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SPEAKER_09: So um so I would go over and start grazing what what you can, what they will, and if there is some uh you say there's some white clover there coming on, um, there's Queen Anne's lace, those are very edible.
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SPEAKER_09: My take is always eat what's there first and and start start with what the cows will do.
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SPEAKER_09: And uh, of course, you're gonna move them every day.
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SPEAKER_09: You're gonna put them in a little a little spot and you're gonna move them every day to get your mob stocking and get them to graze things that they wouldn't normally graze because it's a little more intensive.
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SPEAKER_09: And um and and see and see where you are, you know, do do that for do that for a year.
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SPEAKER_09: I mean, I obviously if you can put compost on it, if you can, you know, put some foliar compost tea or you know, worm worm juice on it or something, you know, that's that's fine too.
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SPEAKER_09: But um uh the main thing is to get the livestock on there, moving them judiciously and eat eat what eat what they will, and um, and it'll it'll absolutely bring on the latent seed bank stuff stuff that's there.
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SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much.
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SPEAKER_02: I appreciate it.
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SPEAKER_09: Yep.
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SPEAKER_08: Okay, awesome.
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SPEAKER_08: This question was written to us from Linda Biggs.
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SPEAKER_08: Uh, this is from this is for you, Joel.
14:36
SPEAKER_08: Uh, I enjoyed your podcast on nutrient density.
14:40
SPEAKER_08: Uh, there's a new the nutrient density app.
14:43
SPEAKER_08: Uh that must have been our guest podcast.
14:45
SPEAKER_08: We're one year into a regenerative ag journey in a semi-arid region of South Africa.
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SPEAKER_08: I would like to read the research that shows a link between nutrient density and meat and the variety of plants and animal eats.
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SPEAKER_08: I'm hoping that you can send me the reference, Joel.
15:02
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, so so uh that is all through the um Bionutrient Food Association.
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SPEAKER_09: Uh Dan Kittredge, K-I-T-T-R-E.
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SPEAKER_09: Uh, I think R E D G E, I think.
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SPEAKER_09: Uh, but but the the Bionutrient Food, there it is.
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SPEAKER_09: Um they're they're they're the ones that are that are spearheading all of this.
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SPEAKER_09: The research is being done, I think, at the university, you know, the data is being accumulated at the University of Uh Utah.
15:39
SPEAKER_09: Uh, but but it's it's being paid for and ramroted by the Bionutrient Food Association.
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SPEAKER_08: Okay, and I can post some studies to um the Discord page as well.
15:52
SPEAKER_08: Uh, I just actually researched this this weekend.
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SPEAKER_08: So, for example, there's a 2023 article showing that microbial diversity amongst the soil and then the plants.
16:05
SPEAKER_08: Um, so this is in plants, of course, but that increased in a favorable manner when people were regeneratively farming.
16:12
SPEAKER_08: And then also higher levels of vitamins, minerals, and antioxidants um in in plants, but also in animals.
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SPEAKER_08: So here's one that was recently published about beef and pork showing uh uh increased levels of omega-3 fats when regeneratively grown.
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SPEAKER_08: So, for example, the beef had 50% more total omega-3s compared to the conventionally fed cattle.
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SPEAKER_08: Um, pork had 11 times more ALA, two times more EPA, and four times more DHA compared to the pork you'd find in the in the supermarket.
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SPEAKER_08: So there are studies that are now available in the peer-reviewed literature, and so I'll post those as well.
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SPEAKER_08: Okay, to the Discord.
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SPEAKER_08: So hopefully that will answer that question.
17:03
SPEAKER_08: Um, let's go to Ethan.
17:04
SPEAKER_08: Hi, Ethan.
17:06
SPEAKER_04: Hey.
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SPEAKER_04: Um just real quick before I ask my question.
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SPEAKER_04: Um, with the guy who was asking about the lower back pain, um, a couple other things that weren't mentioned is um if you like go barefoot more, like some people think that like your back pain and things can be caused by weak feet, because you you know your feet are the you know the foundation.
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SPEAKER_04: So that's another thing you could look into.
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SPEAKER_04: And then just something that I've been realizing more as I've been trying to go to some of these alternative practitioners is if you really want somebody that's gonna do a good job, you probably should look for people who uh you may want to.
17:48
SPEAKER_04: I don't want to say you should.
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SPEAKER_04: Um look for people who don't take insurance because the people who take insurance are required to do things a certain way in a certain period of time, and they don't really like to tailor things as well to your individual needs.
18:03
SPEAKER_04: Um, so that's just another thing to look out for.
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SPEAKER_04: Um also myofascial um is maybe a key word to maybe look at because that that's helped me more than anything.
18:15
SPEAKER_04: But just a couple other angles to look at for that.
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SPEAKER_08: So I love that, Ethan.
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SPEAKER_08: Let me piggyback on to those too.
18:22
SPEAKER_08: So um the human garage has free videos, like on YouTube, um, that you can try, which works on the fascia, like what Ethan's talking about um with the fascia work.
18:34
SPEAKER_08: Um, because sometimes um when we have, for example, emotions that they will cause our fascia to become stuck in certain areas.
18:43
SPEAKER_08: And so instead of having to work through like emotional trauma, like retelling your story, for example, and doing forgiveness practices, sometimes people can just work on releasing the fascia, like the human garage um guides people through.
18:57
SPEAKER_08: And that can actually release a lot of stored trauma.
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SPEAKER_08: You'll see people doing fascial work and they'll just start breaking down in tears.
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SPEAKER_08: Like one, they like feel totally fine one minute, and the next minute after doing this fascial work, they're just bawling because the emotions are being released that we're stuck in that area.
19:14
SPEAKER_08: So um, Ethan, thank you for bringing that up.
19:17
SPEAKER_08: That again, that's on free on YouTube from the human garage.
19:21
SPEAKER_08: Um, and then your point to walking barefoot.
19:24
SPEAKER_08: Yes, that's so great with not only the imbalances in our musculature, uh, but also the grounding effect, right?
19:33
SPEAKER_08: Pulling up the electrons from the earth can also help to rebalance the entire body.
19:38
SPEAKER_08: And pain is one of those symptoms that is commonly reported to dissipate the longer that somebody, the more time somebody spends with their feet barefoot on um on the soil.
19:51
SPEAKER_08: So thank you so much, Ethan.
19:53
SPEAKER_08: And then Ethan, you also had a question, right?
19:55
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so for Joel, so I've raised meat birds a couple of times now, um, just 50 at a time.
20:04
SPEAKER_04: And I've been trying to do the deep bedding stuff, and it it's it should be, it seems like it should just be intuitive.
20:09
SPEAKER_04: But like I've been using the pine shavings from like you know, tractor supply or whatever.
20:15
SPEAKER_04: I I'd rather not, but that's just you know, I always get in a bind and I have to use something.
20:20
SPEAKER_04: And it just seems like the biological activity is not there.
20:23
SPEAKER_04: Like, I guess I'm just wondering like how long should it take for that deep bedding to actually start to, you know, not have a smell to it.
20:33
SPEAKER_04: I know that I have to keep adding stuff, but like how long should I expect that?
20:36
SPEAKER_04: Is it like if I'm only gonna raise 50 chickens in there for three weeks, is that really not enough time for like the biological activity to start kicking in?
20:45
SPEAKER_04: Because I just haven't really had a whole lot of success.
20:47
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, yeah, that's right.
20:48
SPEAKER_09: Well, you gotta realize number one, pine shavings are extremely sterile.
20:52
SPEAKER_09: Uh this they're pretty sterile.
20:54
SPEAKER_09: One of the things that we do in our brooders is we never completely clean them out, we leave a couple wheelbarrow loads in there as an inoculant for next year.
21:05
SPEAKER_09: And so uh, yeah, this this is literally uh can be a multi a multi-year slow process of of buildup.
21:14
SPEAKER_09: And um I I would encourage you to try to find something with that's a little more biologically active.
21:22
SPEAKER_09: I mean some dry leaves or um you maybe a little bit of e even dried, you know, uh dried grass clippings mixed in with some wood shavings.
21:39
SPEAKER_09: Wood shavings will give you your carbon.
21:41
SPEAKER_09: The uh the dried leaves, the dried grass will give you a little bit of uh softness.
21:47
SPEAKER_09: And and just try, yeah.
21:49
SPEAKER_09: Um if you can get uh if you can even get bark peelings, bark peelings can work if the if the pieces aren't very big so um yeah the pine shavings uh that'll work but but they're they're pretty they're pretty sterile they're pretty sterile and and and and you know and you're not doing 10 10 000 chickens so you're just not getting uh um you know enough material and depth and just volume to all these biological systems you know you think about a compost pile there's a certain mass required to you know get a community of beings and make it and make it work yeah okay uh real quick the last the other thing that I had so you've talked about getting like tractor trailer loads of carbon before like is there like a good place I could try to like reach out to like in my area that would do that like I called the lumber mill and asked about like chips but I guess they're kind of like I guess they kind of sell more like you know landscaping chips so I don't know if I'm not asking for the right thing or if uh there's other sources I would go to to try to find like more of a wood chip type material.
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SPEAKER_09: Yeah well I mean yeah a a sawmill a sawmill they should they should uh have something that they'll chip their slab wood and things like that.
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SPEAKER_09: If there's a way to get it bark peelings you know uh shredded so uh you know shredded landscape right material might be a little better for you but yeah you're you're at you're you're doing the right thing and and what you could do is just go go visit the go visit the place take a look at it it could be that you're talking about the same thing but you're the but the you know the terminology is just enough different that you're both talking you're you're talking past each other that that's that's very possible too go go go take a look at it but yeah saw sawmills should have should have uh chips they should have sawdust they should have um bark bark peelings uh shredd shredded bark peelings okay so there should should be should be able to do something there okay and just I see the suggestions in the comments like I kind of do live out in the middle of nowhere there's no chip dropping where I'm at I try to get some of the uh you know the local tree trimmers and stuff and I mean you know I live so I live in a rural enough place where there's plenty of people who want which so yeah yeah it's hard to get anything so yeah I I get it well I mean another option is if you have any any uh you know fence lines wood lot whatever is uh just once a year rent you know rent a chipper from down at the rentals rental place and uh have it have a day of chipping once a year and just you know make make a nice big pile and then you've got your chips for the year.
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SPEAKER_09: Yeah yeah I'm planning on doing that this fall as clearing a bunch of trees and yeah yeah good good all right thanks yep thank you welcome all right that's awesome okay this next question came in from uh somebody on discord and this is actually a question for the community so we're hoping you guys can help us out they're wondering um if you've come up with different ways to make trellises for your garden so anyway so instead of going out and buying a trellis are there any ways that you come up with making your own trellis for a garden and joel that's you too if you if you want to chime in yeah well I mean I mean uh I mean you there's everything from just sticks you know just uh branches uh that are that you hatch it down to to make a simple framework um you know that that's a that's a simple mechanism there's very little that you can make that'll last a long time unless it's plastic or steel which is something you're gonna buy you know things like hog panels and and uh you know pieces of of web wire but um you know if you're gonna make something yourself and not buy it from anywhere you're pretty much stuck to um stuck to either salvage you know which which you know if you have some rebar lying around or you can get a hold of some uh you know plastic pipe that you can um you know put together as a as a framework but most of the self-made trellises are wood and they rot which is fine but they don't cost very much and they're kind of pretty okay yeah so basically you would make a new one each year yeah yeah or every every other every other year okay depends on well I like that question too because that's being really resourceful um her second question for the community is can you share one thing that has ramped up your garden production does anybody have any little tricks or even if it's a product that you bought like if it's if it's not your own input but you bought it anything that helped your garden production Doug you have one um get chickens I think Joel would second that yeah yeah they're they're great I actually prefer them over the garden at this point but they help the garden a lot yeah yeah well is that with eating bugs and fertilizing uh yeah that's just I mean we keep doing the deep bedding um thing we we live on a small enough plot um after eating polyphase micro you know we don't I'm maybe once a week I don't even always do that we do try to do a lot of deep bedding and a couple times a year just shovel out what's in there put that into the garden well it's been raised beds we're contemplating just doing it all in ground in the future but yeah it's it's a better fertilizer than anything we've seen at Home Depot or Lowe's or it's yeah it's like everything else if you can figure out how to do it yourself it's it's always better you know it's just yes one of my girlfriends uses her um duck the the duck poop and just she said she just throws it right into the garden.
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SPEAKER_08: So um anybody else I see uh grass grass clippings came up that's a great one create a compost pile yes rabbit rabbit manure the nice thing about rabbit manures is that it's uh it's cool not hot and uh so you can side dress it you can put it right on and you don't have to actually compost it you can you know go right on with it yeah yeah I love that that's a great question okay this question is for Joel I think this is from um Moleholland I'm sorry you guys know I'm not great at pronouncing names so I'm trying my best so this one is uh what business and marketing book would Joel recommend I'm building the business class for my homeschool son who wants to farm oh that's a great question well I mean um my book Your Successful Farm Business if I can be shamelessly promoting my book um your successful farm business is really good you know Alan Nation's book um land livestock and um what is it land land land livestock and life land livestock and life is a really really good one um yeah those are those are a couple recommendations I think that sounds great those are great starts okay the next question comes from Rachel um Rachel is it is it wax wax okay I got it the second try wax Rachel wax oh it's okay I love how you have your kids here it's so inspiring okay Rachel asks are there any thoughts on good business ventures that encourage eight year old homestead homeschooled boys for for eight year old you know eight years old is is big enough to have a certainly have a a chicken you know a chicken operation with eggs I mean that's a that's a good one eight year old is certainly big enough to have a some garden beds and grow you know grow some produce uh I mean our son Daniel started his rabbits when he was eight I mean you you think about small animals not great big animals that could be that could hurt somebody if they you know get get you pushed up against the fence but any kind of horticulture thing I mean an eight year old can you know plant a plant an apple tree and by the time he's nine you know he won't be getting the apples till he's ten.
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SPEAKER_09: Well by the time he's ten he's two years older um and and then there and then there's other things uh everything from you know pet sitting to um to you know uh working you know weeding things um mowing a lawn that might be a little bit big for an eight year old but um you know just think about things in your community that people that people might need I mean you can make you know an eight year old can probably with a little bit of supervision could put together bird houses and sell bird houses.
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SPEAKER_09: I mean they can they could make you know rudimentary blocks toys for kids you know and sell if you got some you know scrap lumber sitting around carve it up into various size blocks and paint them.
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SPEAKER_09: You know eight year old can run a paintbrush and paint some blocks all sorts of colors and can make some rudimentary children's play blocks for people.
32:10
SPEAKER_09: I mean I'm I'm just I'm just going to head but I mean there's there's a there's a ton of stuff that um that kids can do so just just start start uh thinking of what what kids can do.
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SPEAKER_08: Yeah I would say even things that um we don't think they might be capable of doing so like my son um created a a dessert cookbook at the age of six I mean I helped him do it but he created that you know and sold it online and in at local churches and whatnot.
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SPEAKER_08: So they're very kids are very capable.
32:44
SPEAKER_08: So I would start asking them like what is he interested in you know and piggyback and and that's how I teach anyway when I homeschool I it's passion led.
32:52
SPEAKER_08: So whatever they're interested in and then I we dive straight into that until they're interested in something else and then we pivot.
32:58
SPEAKER_08: So I if it was me I mean Joel has fantastic ideas.
33:01
SPEAKER_08: I love all those ideas and maybe just give them ideas and ask what they're interested in and brainstorm what they can do with that.
33:08
SPEAKER_08: And this is a time when you can ask AI right you can actually put in a chat GPT what they're interested in and have them come up with uh have have AI come up with different um entrepreneurial opportunities you know in your area they can even tell you local um business ordinances and whatnot like like uh laws and regulations so there is a space that you can have AI work for you.
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SPEAKER_09: And I I know I know the question was about boys but there's no reason why uh boys can't bake and cook they can make you know pound cakes and donuts and pastries and different things um I'm not sure Cena wants to endorse making pastries and sell them but uh you know people people are buying them people are buying convenience food you know make cookies and um and instead of buying it at Costco they can buy them from your you know your kids and our our daughter made um uh she she made these little uh hand you know where you have this little this little loom with the little um not elastic but little loops you know and you you loop it together and make these little potholder things and uh boy she made a a ton of those and and and sold them.
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SPEAKER_08: So yeah that you you can get in the kitchen and make stuff you can um make little uh handcrafts and things like that there there's there's a ton of stuff you can do uh worm worm beds sell you know sell uh fish fish stock earthworms um yeah lots of stuff yeah I mean uh my son was it was my son who actually created the cookbook and it and it was a dessert cookbook so and and like I said Rachel that was out of passion because that's when we realized that we we were having difficulty with grains and he was the most upset about giving up desserts um because like almost every dessert back then that you found in the grocery store had some type of grain or grain derivative in it.
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SPEAKER_08: And so it came out of a promise I said well if this is really what you want to eat then I will help you create a grain free recipes that tastes better than what you could buy in the store.
35:17
SPEAKER_08: And that started a huge homeschool project for us that's still going today.
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SPEAKER_08: Like now he's making a full blown cookbook with meals and everything.
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SPEAKER_08: So you never know.
35:28
SPEAKER_08: But again boys can do it too like right and I yeah and I I'm not opposed to eating the desserts I I love desserts.
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SPEAKER_03: So um let's go to Aaron Aaron B well thank you I was uh I'm a placeholder for PJ who didn't know how so hopefully he's unmuted here not not right now oh wow thank you hi PJ hey can you hear me yes I can hear you PJ welcome awesome hey thank you guys um yeah Joe I'm a long time fan of you and your work and um somebody somebody's not muted sorry somebody's not muted I I'm hearing a bunch of uh feedback from somebody in the background okay good I just muted him all right all right go ahead all right see scene is the Cena's top cop top cop great awesome I'm a bad cop go ahead pj um uh yeah it's it's awesome for this uh this forum that you guys made and um it's great to have the opportunity to ask you guys questions.
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SPEAKER_03: Um so I live in West Georgia and I recently started um kind of baby steps into homesteading and I uh I have the opportunity as of recently to uh get some birds from a pilgrim's caifo uh and in the interest of trying to use what I have I was like okay maybe I'll get these birds I'll put them in a movable pin put them on pasture and for however long and you know process them see how it goes but I've had them I've had them on pasture for probably five weeks so when the trucks come and pick them up they're about five weeks old and the ones that I got it's like the ones that you know they just missed them.
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SPEAKER_03: They were kind of there's nothing wrong with them as far as them being different from the other birds.
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SPEAKER_03: So they're five weeks old and I've had them on pasture for about five weeks moving them every day every other day there's only a few of them but I have the opportunity to keep doing it if I want um but I guess my question is how long should I leave them out there and do that um to like sort of clean out their system or is that not even is is it not even worth it to do that.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm just kind of trying to use what I have yeah yeah no I I I I get it and and um the they're they I mean they're certainly not as pure as they would be if you went ahead and if you went ahead and got got the uh you know got the chicks straight from the hatchery and all that but um yeah uh are the are they growing okay I mean five weeks if they're ten weeks they must be good no they might be uh seven pounds yeah they're they're still growing yeah um I haven't been feeding them hardly anything I've just been letting them eat the grass and bugs and stuff and giving them water I give them a little bit of feed and creek stand and that's pretty much it so they're not moving that much the the pins only like you know three foot by eight I don't know maybe it's three or four feet by seven ish feet and how how many are in there um there were two for about three weeks and now there's two now there's three so there's not a lot oh okay yeah so it it they have plenty of room in there yeah yeah that's for sure okay all right yeah I'm I'm always I uh scale is uh scale is very uh very different from one person to another yeah so yeah if you've only got two in there you're moving them every day uh I mean do they when you feed them do they act hungry?
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah yeah they do if I if I don't move it for like the longest I've left it um was three days and then like and and then it was like it was bare but I usually move it every day or every other day.
40:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah yeah well the thing is a chicken a chicken is an omnivore they're not an herbivore so they don't they can't live on grass now uh uh that they can live on they can live on bugs uh it's high protein then then what they're lacking is starch or lacking energy so that would come from your corn and uh um you know potato skins and and things like that are you giving them any chick kitchen scraps yeah they get some kitchen scraps um i've got some other birds that are in on an enclosed structure that are just like laying birds and so you know I give most of the kitchen scraps to them um but I do give I give these pilgrims birds some yeah uh some stuff yeah are they are they are they de-beak do they have a full beak they have a full beak yeah huh all right well uh I mean you're you're doing you're doing a salvage thing I mean the way you're raising them is certainly going to be as aggressive a t a detox program as you could imagine so um uh yeah if if it's uh if it's working for you and they're and they're healthy and don't seem to be you know uh anemic or you know lethargic you know where they're they're um they're they're probably probably like to have a little more feed uh knowing these kind of birds it'd be interesting to uh to move them every day and give them all the feed they want and just see what your deficit is that's the kind of stuff you do when you do it just to an experiment.
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SPEAKER_09: Well you know you know if if if they yeah if if they eat three times as much feed as you're giving them it's good to know it's good to know how much you're shortening them.
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SPEAKER_09: If if they if they eat um if they if you give them all they want and they only eat double then you know um you know the your they're they're it's you're you're closer.
41:56
SPEAKER_09: But those are those are the kind of things I would do some experimenting just to see where you are I mean the if they're 10 weeks old they ought they ought to be humongous by now if they're getting enough to eat.
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SPEAKER_09: But being short of feed to being short of feed you're probably slowing down their growth a lot and they're just not they're just not growing very well which is really great for detoxification but it um uh but they're just not they're just not growing very fast.
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SPEAKER_09: So I I I think you're doing fine.
42:22
SPEAKER_09: I I would play around with a little bit of experimenting to make sure that you're not you're not really you know starving them to death.
42:30
SPEAKER_09: And but animals are really resilient you know they can they can take a lot and and keep on ticking.
42:36
SPEAKER_09: So as as as far as you know should you eat them um I I wouldn't have any problem eating those chickens especially if they're out there five weeks on the grass getting all that uh all that chlorophyll chlorophyll's nature's number one detoxicant and by shorting their feed they're probably eating a lot more grass than they would you know just normally and so uh and the kitchen scraps help so sounds to me like you're doing all right.
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SPEAKER_08: All right cool yeah that's kind of what I was thinking I was like I was like they've been eating a lot of feed their whole life constantly so I was like I'll just give them a little bit and let them detox on the chlorophyll and yeah so okay cool well yeah I was just curious if you thought that was like a worthwhile effort yeah yeah that sounds sounds uh sounds interesting cool all right well appreciate you guys thank you PJ great question um let's go to Steve W uh Farmer Joel have you participated in land race agriculture where you plant a bunch of cultivars or interbreed different breeds in order to maximize initial genetic diversity and develop over time so over generations a race of plants slash animals suitable for your area that needs little to no input like fertilizer water and care and becomes better adapted to your locality
44:00
SPEAKER_09: We're actually doing that right now with chickens.
44:04
SPEAKER_09: We have been breeding our own laying chickens now for 10 years.
44:08
SPEAKER_09: We started with uh a hodgepodge of barred rocks, uh black Australorps, New Hampshire Reds, Rhode Island Reds, Silverlace Wyandots, and um and just began breeding these and saving our own uh pullets and saving our own cockerels.
44:28
SPEAKER_09: We're 10 years, maybe 11 years into this now.
44:32
SPEAKER_09: This is the first year we are now shipping these fertile eggs nationwide to folks who want to hatch them themselves.
44:40
SPEAKER_09: And what we've found is that um that these birds have definitely become predominantly um barred rock looking.
44:52
SPEAKER_09: We think partly it's because the barred rock, that that variegated color, that gray and gray and white color is a bit like camouflage.
45:01
SPEAKER_09: It's hard for predators to uh lock on to.
45:04
SPEAKER_09: And so um, you know, we're we're breeding old hens that have not been gotten by aerial predators, obviously, that that have been uh healthy.
45:16
SPEAKER_09: And uh these birds are they're smarter, they're easier to train, they are like to the eggmobile and stuff.
45:23
SPEAKER_09: They're definitely smarter, they're more docile because they're used to people.
45:27
SPEAKER_09: They're you know being around us so they're more docile so they don't get stressed, um, which which makes them not lay, you know, have blood spots and and things in their eggs from stress, and they're bigger bodied, they're bigger bodied by about a pound.
45:42
SPEAKER_09: And so when you get done with them, you have this nice big chunky stewing hen as opposed to this little tiny, you know, uh uh dove looking thing that's just an egg machine.
45:54
SPEAKER_09: And so um, so yeah, that's that's the only thing.
45:59
SPEAKER_09: So that's one.
46:00
SPEAKER_09: This the other one that we've done is Daniel's rabbits.
46:03
SPEAKER_09: Daniel started with his rabbits when he was eight, and it was a completely closed flock.
46:07
SPEAKER_09: Oh, he started with uh three different uh breeds of rabbits and has been breeding his own stock.
46:14
SPEAKER_09: A couple of times we've gone off farm to get breedings to get um bucks, but only a couple times in whatever, you know, almost 40 years now.
46:26
SPEAKER_09: And um and so, you know, he's really got a pasture-based rabbit.
46:32
SPEAKER_09: You know, when he started with these for the first five years, so he was about eight when he started with these, and um for five years he had 50% mortality.
46:43
SPEAKER_09: 50% mortality, and at five years it just stopped.
46:47
SPEAKER_09: It just stopped cold.
46:49
SPEAKER_09: And uh it was like there was a tip over point where the adaptation of our you know, our program, the adaptation tipped over to a you know, to a an integrity point, if you will, and the rabbit suddenly, you know, you didn't have a sore teeth, sore hocks, um, had no coccidiosis, you know, the and they just did really well.
47:11
SPEAKER_09: Doesn't mean never loses one, but uh they've been incredibly um uh powerful.
47:18
SPEAKER_09: So, so all that said, I'm a much bigger believer in developing new re bioregionally adapted breeds than I am keep and I know this is heresy, um, than I am keeping heritage breeds.
47:38
SPEAKER_09: Heritage breeds mostly have names of geographical areas, you know, Scottish Highlanders, Guernsey cows, Shetland ponies, uh, and and and what that means is that that was a genetic that worked very well in that area.
47:55
SPEAKER_09: And there are a few things that frustrate me more than seeing somebody in Alabama with Scottish Mountain Highlanders, these long-haired, horned things grown to grow in the selected genetically to grow in the steps of the Scottish Highlands, and they're in Alabama suffering and uh you know whatever.
48:21
SPEAKER_09: They're not comfortable because they're way out of their element.
48:24
SPEAKER_09: So, yeah, I'm a big believer in developing, you know, regional adapt regionally adapted uh genetic basis, yes.
48:33
SPEAKER_08: Oh that's fantastic.
48:35
SPEAKER_08: Okay, so and I'd never heard of that.
48:37
SPEAKER_08: That sounds great.
48:38
SPEAKER_08: Um, let's jump over here to Kathleen Cleveland.
48:41
SPEAKER_08: Hi, Kathleen.
48:43
SPEAKER_06: Hi, thank you so much for taking my uh question.
48:47
SPEAKER_06: I uh I make ghee from butter, and sometimes it smells rancid.
48:53
SPEAKER_06: And one time when I made it, it separated into a white solid and yellow liquid, like they used to make you know my grandparents talked about when they'd make oleo from shortening, and uh and the store refunded my money because this is clearly not butter, but so now I wonder if if they with the labeling uh which is your foretake, can they put seed oils in there and and it not be and they don't have to say that they put seed oils in it?
49:27
SPEAKER_06: And how can I tell if I'm getting real butter?
49:30
SPEAKER_06: And even if I make it myself from store-bought heavy whipping cream, because I've made some cultured butter that way, how do I know they didn't put seed oils in there to make it thicker or whatever, and just not have to label it?
49:44
SPEAKER_08: So um, and Joel, maybe you jump in on this one too.
49:48
SPEAKER_08: So it's my understanding that you can't sneak seed oils into a food or supplement product without declaring it on the label.
49:59
SPEAKER_08: Um, the the the fats have to be uh the oils have to be named by their common or usual name.
50:08
SPEAKER_08: And um I think that's under the the CFR 101.
50:13
SPEAKER_08: And a blend, a blend can get named vegetable oil, right?
50:18
SPEAKER_08: That's just an umbrella.
50:20
SPEAKER_08: Um, but you have to still disclose the components on it.
50:25
SPEAKER_08: Um so I would think, and like so soy, for instance, um, soybean oil is kind of a twist, right?
50:36
SPEAKER_08: It's exempted from the allergen labeling as long as it's been highly refined and it's less than two percent protein.
50:42
SPEAKER_08: But that only applies to on the label if it says like contain soy statements.
50:47
SPEAKER_08: Um, you still have to list soybean oil um on the label.
50:52
SPEAKER_08: Um, and I know like so hydrogenated.
50:57
SPEAKER_08: Uh, if if the seed oil was partially or fully hydrogenated, you do have to say like partially hydrogenated or hydrogenated.
51:05
SPEAKER_08: And so you would say, for instance, partially hydrogenated soybean oil.
51:09
SPEAKER_08: So I'm not aware, and Joel, correct me if I'm wrong, of any obvious loophole to slip a seed oil in the packaged food without declaring it on the label.
51:21
SPEAKER_08: Now, having said that, we do know that we're finding that adulteration is higher and higher, right?
51:29
SPEAKER_08: The more we look into it, the more third parties test products.
51:33
SPEAKER_08: So it wouldn't that surprise me if there's adulteration.
51:36
SPEAKER_08: We know uh we had this conversation on on our Discord channel as well, the adulteration in terms of olive oil, right?
51:44
SPEAKER_08: And so we know that they are adulterating products.
51:47
SPEAKER_08: Um, honey.
51:48
SPEAKER_08: Um, actually, my homeschool kids and I in our co-op, we just studied honey and talking about the adulteration that's in honey as well.
51:56
SPEAKER_08: Um, and it's it's very high.
51:58
SPEAKER_08: And so it wouldn't that surprise me if there's adulteration.
52:02
SPEAKER_08: But in terms of the label, you they are supposed to list it on the label if they add a seed oil.
52:10
SPEAKER_08: Um, Joel, what what's your thoughts?
52:13
SPEAKER_09: Especially especially if it's a dairy product.
52:15
SPEAKER_09: If it's if if it's a dairy product, it's um it's it's generally gonna not just it's gonna just be a dairy product.
52:25
SPEAKER_09: It's gonna sit.
52:26
SPEAKER_06: Could it be what the cows ate that is uh changing, you know, because what they eat is what's in the fat.
52:33
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, is that can it be that's what's affecting it?
52:37
SPEAKER_09: It it it could be it could be that they're eating so much um you know, soybean meat or corn or something that uh that is affecting the the milk.
52:50
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
52:52
SPEAKER_06: That's a great idea to say we are what we all right, thank you so much.
52:56
SPEAKER_06: Kathleen you all and your work.
52:59
SPEAKER_08: Oh, thanks.
52:59
SPEAKER_08: And Kathleen, I say that's such a great observation because clearly if the cow's eating it, they don't have to label that.
53:05
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, so yeah, uh awesome, awesome comment.
53:09
SPEAKER_08: Um, so let's go over here to the chat and then and then we'll come back to you.
53:14
SPEAKER_08: Um okay.
53:16
SPEAKER_08: Is it Aofhi?
53:19
SPEAKER_08: Oh, Joel, you should really be the one pronouncing the names.
53:23
SPEAKER_08: I see it.
53:24
SPEAKER_08: Um says, I started eating meat again last week for the first time since 1987.
53:29
SPEAKER_08: I'm now 49.
53:31
SPEAKER_08: Um, it's Regan organic beef from small local farms.
53:36
SPEAKER_08: It's amazing to see the benefits.
53:38
SPEAKER_08: I do have lots of mouth ulcers again for the first time in years, but zero digestive issues, um, which was what scared me the most.
53:46
SPEAKER_08: Our bodies are amazing.
53:48
SPEAKER_08: Wow, that's that is incredible.
53:51
SPEAKER_08: Um, Joel, I don't know if you want to chime in there.
53:56
SPEAKER_08: Or you're the meat guy.
53:57
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, is the question about this is it is it giving you mouth ulcers?
54:02
SPEAKER_09: Is that the question?
54:03
SPEAKER_08: Or I don't, or maybe it's just a comment.
54:05
SPEAKER_09: Uh okay, so it's just the question.
54:08
SPEAKER_09: Sounds like digestion is going well.
54:11
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, that's fantastic.
54:12
SPEAKER_08: And um, mouth source.
54:14
SPEAKER_08: Um you know, there's not a lot of association, a direct association between like the meat and mouth source um in the literature.
54:23
SPEAKER_08: However, um, there are many ways in which that could actually happen.
54:28
SPEAKER_08: One would the most obvious one would be if you are sensitive to something that you might have seasoned the meat with, you know, like so if adding if eating that meat introduced something um that you are sensitive to.
54:40
SPEAKER_08: The other is too, meat changes your uh microflora, right?
54:45
SPEAKER_08: If you're if you would have been a vegetarian for decades, you have a different um flora um uh makeup.
54:54
SPEAKER_08: And so when you consume meat, it is gonna shift that flora.
54:59
SPEAKER_08: And um sometimes that can disrupt local B12 savage pathways, for example.
55:06
SPEAKER_08: Um, you can also have um a deficiency that shows up once once you start to consume meat.
55:14
SPEAKER_08: Like so it so they'll say it unmasks deficiencies that you may not have known about, um, largely probably being a B12.
55:22
SPEAKER_08: Um, I mean, but there's things like that that that can happen.
55:26
SPEAKER_08: Um, intrinsic factor is gonna increase because of you know gastric acidity increasing.
55:32
SPEAKER_08: Um so the reintroduction sometimes can crank up stomach acid, which can help release iron and B12 from the animal uh protein, which can irritate the gut lining, actually, if it releases too much.
55:45
SPEAKER_08: And that irritation could cause inflammation in the mouth as well.
55:48
SPEAKER_08: So there are reasons, like scientific reasons why that could happen.
55:52
SPEAKER_08: Um, and and all of those reasons point to, well, the ones I covered, point to predominantly um determining if you have a B12 uh or iron deficiency, um, and giving the gut time to the gastrointestinal tract time to rebalance itself.
56:10
SPEAKER_08: Right.
56:11
SPEAKER_08: Um, so slow introduction, for example.
56:14
SPEAKER_08: Um, but that's that's fantastic.
56:16
SPEAKER_08: I'm glad you didn't have any GI shoes.
56:18
SPEAKER_08: That's amazing.
56:18
SPEAKER_08: Okay, let's hop over here.
56:20
SPEAKER_00: Oh, oh, go ahead.
56:21
SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
56:22
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, could I just ask you now that I have you?
56:25
SPEAKER_00: I would love, I know a lot about fruits and vegetables and stuff, but I would love to actually understand what the meat is doing in my body.
56:36
SPEAKER_00: Like if even if you could point me to a resource where I could, you know, amino acids and all that kind of stuff, I'd love to understand what is happening now.
56:47
SPEAKER_08: Oh, so if are you asking for like how the meat metabolism through the body or like more of how the components of the meat can benefit your body?
56:58
SPEAKER_00: Well, anything, I would just love to have a resource where I could learn more about what the meat is actually doing.
57:09
SPEAKER_00: You know.
57:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, on the on the positive side.
57:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, totally positive.
57:15
SPEAKER_08: Oh, on the positive side.
57:16
SPEAKER_08: So you're not talking about why it could potentially cause mouth ulcers, you're talking about what the meat is doing um to benefit the body.
57:23
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, I wouldn't have done this if I didn't believe.
57:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
57:28
SPEAKER_08: Okay, yeah.
57:28
SPEAKER_08: Um, and what I can do is um, because I mean it now it's one, I can post.
57:32
SPEAKER_08: Are you on the Discord channel?
57:34
SPEAKER_08: Because I can post some um resources to the Discord channel.
57:38
SPEAKER_08: I could join it, yeah.
57:40
SPEAKER_08: Okay, yeah, I mean, that would be great.
57:42
SPEAKER_08: I know, um, okay, so I'll post that to Discord um uh hopefully by tomorrow.
57:48
SPEAKER_08: Um, but great, that's a great question, great comment.
57:50
SPEAKER_08: And I know we're out of time, but real quick, I want to get to um Cremona.
57:54
SPEAKER_08: It's is it Cremona?
57:55
SPEAKER_08: I feel like I I mispronounced this every time.
57:58
SPEAKER_07: Oh, hello.
57:59
SPEAKER_07: Um, I can keep this quick, but um, thank you very much for your podcast.
58:03
SPEAKER_07: I look forward to them every week.
58:05
SPEAKER_07: Um right now, my uh husband and daughter are traveling, and the highlight of their trip is coming to Polyface, which I'm very proud of.
58:14
SPEAKER_07: That will be there Saturday.
58:16
SPEAKER_07: Oh so I just wanted to let you know.
58:19
SPEAKER_09: Thank you.
58:20
SPEAKER_09: Good.
58:20
SPEAKER_09: We're looking looking forward to seeing them.
58:22
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
58:22
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
58:23
SPEAKER_07: Um, even when we're traveling in the vehicle, sometimes we listen to your uh YouTube uh speeches, and and the kids get a good big crack of that because our goal is so that they become farmers.
58:35
SPEAKER_07: And um, she's 18, and thank you for just being inspirational.
58:40
SPEAKER_07: They'll be staying at the tiny house.
58:43
SPEAKER_07: Um, she loves reading books, so probably point her in the one of the one of your better um titles.
58:50
SPEAKER_07: But we had listened to your audiobook of everything I want to do is illegal because you know in Canada everything is illegal.
58:57
SPEAKER_07: So I guess at the moment I'm just missing them because they've been already gone for 10 days, but they'll be back next week.
59:05
SPEAKER_07: So yeah, feel free to um call them.
59:08
SPEAKER_07: Uh, you know, we're all all of our last name is Primrose, so ras them and point and and uh make them feel embarrassed and tell them mom did it.
59:18
SPEAKER_09: Uh wonderful.
59:19
SPEAKER_09: I'll I'll watch I'll watch for them.
59:21
SPEAKER_09: We'll have a great, great day Saturday.
59:23
SPEAKER_09: Yes.
59:23
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, no, I was looking forward to it to to hear back from uh and also I told them I said I um with your tiny house, you have excellent uh uh marketing.
59:33
SPEAKER_07: And so of course I clicked on all your extra meats that they need to cook and taste and sample, and I said, don't empty the cooler yet.
59:40
SPEAKER_07: I need a sample when they bring it back.
59:43
SPEAKER_09: Great, thank you.
59:44
SPEAKER_09: That's very kind.
59:45
SPEAKER_09: Thank you.
59:46
SPEAKER_09: I hope they have a have a wonderful time and a safe trip home.
59:49
SPEAKER_09: I'll watch it.
59:50
SPEAKER_09: Thank you very much.
59:50
SPEAKER_09: God bless you both.
59:51
SPEAKER_09: I'll watch four of them Saturday.
59:53
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, great.
59:54
SPEAKER_08: Thank you, Cena.
59:55
SPEAKER_08: Awesome! Thank you so much.
59:56
SPEAKER_08: Send a picture if you can.
59:58
SPEAKER_08: I that of them there with Joel.
1:00:00
SPEAKER_08: Uh okay, and just real quick, um, our next live QA is Wednesday, August 20th at 4 p.m.
1:00:08
SPEAKER_08: Eastern time.
1:00:08
SPEAKER_08: So Wednesday, August 20th at 4 p.m.
1:00:11
SPEAKER_08: Eastern Time.
1:00:11
SPEAKER_08: And then Joel, based on um listener requests, do you want to close us out with a prayer?
1:00:17
SPEAKER_09: Yeah, absolutely.
1:00:18
SPEAKER_09: All right.
1:00:20
SPEAKER_09: Our Lord, we're just grateful for this time that we can spend together and and and look at every issues from um how to handle your creation to handle how to handle our own bodies and interact with each other.
1:00:33
SPEAKER_09: It's a privilege, it's an honor, and we thank you for this community of caring, interested, engaged folks who are interested in uh and how you would like us to live.
1:00:44
SPEAKER_09: So bless us all for having invested our time together and um help us to observe, to think, to uh figure out how to solve our different issues and uh bring us back together at uh at a good time.
1:01:00
SPEAKER_09: We love you and praise you in Jesus' name.
1:01:03
SPEAKER_08: Amen.
1:01:04
SPEAKER_08: Oh wow, thank you all so much, and we look forward to next month.
1:01:09
SPEAKER_09: Bye.
1:01:10
SPEAKER_09: Thank you, bye bye.