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Jags Drive Time: Monday, September 13 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

0:02
Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive John with Ashlyn Sullimsell with John Osan,
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Speaker 1: Brian Sexton, Janks right, John starts right now, we've all
0:15
Speaker 1: got our ask kicked before. Let's tighten up and go,
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Speaker 1: you know. And that's so I believe in those that team.
0:21
Speaker 1: I believe in our staff and um come back to work.
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Speaker 1: The thing is, I you know, you're gonna earn your
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Speaker 1: captain stripes and leadership strikes as a coach and leaders
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Speaker 1: on the team. But I believe in that. I believe
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Speaker 1: in those guys. Oof, not the way you wanted to
0:37
Speaker 1: start the regular season. Week one. Welcome to Jaguars Drive
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Speaker 1: Tive Monday morning, they lost the Houston Texans. Ashlan Selvan,
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Speaker 1: Brian Sexton and John Oser here. Yes it was a loss.
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Speaker 1: There is a loss. Takeaway from this game. There's a
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Speaker 1: lot we learned, and Brian, there's a lot this team
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Speaker 1: sort yeah, yeah, you know. And that's it's funny. I
0:55
Speaker 1: got a text this morning from somebody saying, how you
0:57
Speaker 1: gonna put lipstick on that pig? And I said, UM, say,
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Speaker 1: it's not a pig. You know, I don't think it's
1:03
Speaker 1: a pig. I think last year it was a pig. Um.
1:05
Speaker 1: I don't know what animal it relates to. There's a
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Speaker 1: lot that you can work with, right, and and the
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Speaker 1: quarterback is obviously the centerpiece of that. There's a way
1:14
Speaker 1: to get where they want to go from where they
1:15
Speaker 1: are last year that wasn't even possible, right, I don't.
1:18
Speaker 1: I'm the sunny eyed optimist all the time anyway, But
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Speaker 1: the reality of it is is that there were There's
1:25
Speaker 1: some things you're like, wow, okay, but a lot of
1:27
Speaker 1: those things can be fixed and you've got things to
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Speaker 1: work with. You're not complete. We didn't think they would
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Speaker 1: be this year. Um, but they'll be better than that. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I was encouraged by the quarterback um, obviously, but it
1:42
Speaker 1: is one of my hot takes. I'm not going to
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Speaker 1: completely go there. But if you want to get better,
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Speaker 1: get better fundamentally, and don't take yourself out of the
1:50
Speaker 1: game in the first quarter and half, well that's very simple.
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Speaker 1: I guess we got so much to talk about. You
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Speaker 1: should get into big things because we'll come back around.
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Speaker 1: Which your point was, you think he can get better,
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Speaker 1: It can get better, can get better fundamentally. That's my
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Speaker 1: heart takes, Lens. I go ahead, right, you can get
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Speaker 1: better right out of the right out of the gate.
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Speaker 1: You can get better with the way that the game started,
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Speaker 1: and then the way that the half ended. You can
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Speaker 1: get better with better decision making on the sideline. You
2:12
Speaker 1: can fix some of those things pretty quickly. Yes you can,
2:14
Speaker 1: all right. Big thing one is last minute meltdown. The
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Speaker 1: last minute of the first half basically put the game
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Speaker 1: out of reach. It's twenty seven at this point, it's
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Speaker 1: third and one. Make the stop, go into the locker room.
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Speaker 1: Everything's okay, and said it's a fifty seven yard bomb
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Speaker 1: with thirteen seconds left in the first half. You're walking
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Speaker 1: into halftime thinking what just happened? Self inflicted? I think
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Speaker 1: we had seven penalties in the first three or four drives,
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Speaker 1: and I thought, uh, you know, we we're moving the ball,
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Speaker 1: I thought. And then all of a sudd you look
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Speaker 1: up and you see that damn penalty flag and so
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Speaker 1: we just and somewhere just you know, it just can't happen.
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Speaker 1: So that was the biggest disappointment. And then all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden, you get out of your rhythm running the
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Speaker 1: ball and you look up and you're down a couple
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Speaker 1: of scores, and you know, drop back or throwing fifty
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Speaker 1: one passes. You know it's not that's not what we
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Speaker 1: gotta be. Big thing too is sixteen seems the same.
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Speaker 1: That is the sixteenth loss in the road on the road,
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Speaker 1: new era, Yes, new faces, Yes, sixteen game losing streak.
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Speaker 1: Losing feels like losing. So Trevor Lawrence, how do you
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Speaker 1: fix this? Definitely some stuff we've got to clean up.
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Speaker 1: Too many penalties, Um, Like I said, turnovers, it's all
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Speaker 1: me re turnovers, Like you're not gonna You're not gonna
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Speaker 1: win many games with three turnovers, especially when you know
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Speaker 1: margin was minus three for us, So it's not good.
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Speaker 1: Gave them one right and are you know, backed up
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Speaker 1: through one to them right before you know half kind
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Speaker 1: of right there. It was just not great. So a
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Speaker 1: lot of things we gotta do better. But like I said,
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Speaker 1: you gotta watch them and correct them and then move on.
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Speaker 1: And like you said, procedure stuff. We'll get that fixed. Um,
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Speaker 1: partly something We've got a lot of new guys that
3:48
Speaker 1: just came in and all that, so you know, we'll
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Speaker 1: clean it up. Big thing too is tracking that guy
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence who threw the ball fifty one times. What
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Speaker 1: in the world, has never lost in the regular season,
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Speaker 1: has never thrown three interceptions in a game. So, head coach,
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Speaker 1: what did you think of your quarterback? I love Trevor
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Speaker 1: and we all do. Trevor is just gonna get better
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Speaker 1: and better and better. Had a great week of work. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know we all offensive football is about eleven guys
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Speaker 1: doing their job, you know, and uh, the great offenses
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Speaker 1: we've all witnessed and we've all been a part of
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Speaker 1: our when eleven guys are doing their job and executing
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Speaker 1: and that didn't happen. So Trevor is gonna be great.
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Speaker 1: I know, I know I'm gonna I know I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: respond well. You know, I'm made of the right stuff,
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Speaker 1: so I don't have any doubt about that. But it
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Speaker 1: is it's frustrating and Hay losing, Hay losing. So, um,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna get better. But that's all you can do
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Speaker 1: is watch the tape, learn from it, get better and
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Speaker 1: move on. And we just gotta stick together. That's the
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Speaker 1: main thing. That's you know, that's kind of in the past.
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Speaker 1: That's over. It is what it is. Um, we got
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Speaker 1: to move on to next week and stick together. So
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be good, all right? Moving on to next
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Speaker 1: week is the Denver bron Denver broncos here at home
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Speaker 1: this Sunday. But let's right here with this game, and
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Speaker 1: I think let's go to a big thing too, which
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Speaker 1: is six feels the same. Losing feels like losing. And
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Speaker 1: this loss was a lot of self inflicted wounds, a
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Speaker 1: lot of penalties, a lot of not lining up correctly,
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Speaker 1: things that make you worried, why is this happening right now? Well,
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Speaker 1: and I wrote this in quick thoughts. I mean it
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Speaker 1: goes everywhere, right, I mean, it was the procedure. You
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Speaker 1: had to use a time out on me on the
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Speaker 1: first drive, I mean, just to collect yourself, and that
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Speaker 1: that just it felt so discombobulated for a team that
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Speaker 1: had been working together. Trevor talk last week about all
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Speaker 1: the time in the effort they had put in together
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Speaker 1: to get to this point. So it starts off and
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Speaker 1: then and then what really caught me was at the
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Speaker 1: end of the end of the half, you're down twenty
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Speaker 1: to seven. After the interception, the kid is swimming. I
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Speaker 1: don't understand the decision to throw, throw, throw and only
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Speaker 1: take what sixteen seconds seventeen seconds off the clock? He
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Speaker 1: was swimming at that moment, right, run the ball, get
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Speaker 1: into the halftime locker room, and then you come out
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Speaker 1: with it and you're only down thirteen instead of being
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Speaker 1: down twenty. I mean it just it. That's not the
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Speaker 1: way that I thought that the first half would go,
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Speaker 1: just based on watching them practice and listening to them talk.
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Speaker 1: It just it was. I'm writing it off. I don't
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Speaker 1: think you'll see it half that bad. Again, Well, there's
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Speaker 1: so much slimming on swimming. So but the first thing
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Speaker 1: on our little notes here is they couldn't run the ball.
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Speaker 1: And statistically that's true. But I went back and watch
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Speaker 1: the game last night. After I got back. They were
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Speaker 1: running the ball. I was gonna say, they absolutely could,
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Speaker 1: and they got twelve yards and then it's a hole
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Speaker 1: they and on the nine yards In another hand, speaking
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Speaker 1: of the holds, the Lender hole I didn't see. I
6:38
Speaker 1: didn't either. The first Juan Taylor hole I didn't see. Uh,
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Speaker 1: those were Tiki tach DJ charks started pulling down from
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Speaker 1: the back. It had to be called, and then the
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Speaker 1: second Juwan Taylor had to be called. So holdings holding,
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Speaker 1: But I on the plane, I'm thinking, why in the
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Speaker 1: world didn't they run the ball. When we talked after
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Speaker 1: the game, son on camera, why the way they round
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Speaker 1: the ball and then on each drive sort of a
7:03
Speaker 1: circumstance took him out of it. Hold hold and then
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Speaker 1: their first and fifteen on the first drive. So I
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Speaker 1: don't think they didn't want to run the ball. And
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Speaker 1: I'll I'll disagree with you a little bit. At the
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Speaker 1: end of the first half, they threw three passes that
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Speaker 1: were really high percentage, and I thought a couple of
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Speaker 1: them could have been caught, a couple of them could
7:21
Speaker 1: have been better throws. Those are easy passes that when
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Speaker 1: you game plan for that, you're thinking it is going
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Speaker 1: to be complete. Worst case the guy falls down. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I get what you're saying, and I understand that,
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Speaker 1: and you can't just run it all the time. But
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Speaker 1: also look at the circumstances, right, and from my vantage point,
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Speaker 1: I saw a quarterback who was swimming mentally, just trying
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Speaker 1: to calm down, calm himself down, and you just had
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Speaker 1: bang bang players go against you. Right, given up ten
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Speaker 1: points in less than a minute. Just there's fifty nine
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Speaker 1: seconds left. Get out of the first half. You're gonna
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Speaker 1: have the ball to start it. Thirteen points. It's absolutely agree.
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying on that at that moment in the game,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, it's too much asked the kid to
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Speaker 1: come out because you knew what's gonna happen. They were
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Speaker 1: gonna have to throw the ball fifty times in the game,
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Speaker 1: and and that was asking too much. I just thought
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Speaker 1: that that was a moment, and I know they don't
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Speaker 1: want to play that way, right. If I hadn't listened
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Speaker 1: to Urban and Darryl Bevil talk so much, I wouldn't
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Speaker 1: realize they don't want to play that way. But I
8:18
Speaker 1: thought they got out of sorts. And it wasn't just
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Speaker 1: the players on the field, it was everybody involved. They
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Speaker 1: just the first half was a meltdown. It was everyone's
8:26
Speaker 1: first game, and it was rather clear. And we give
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Speaker 1: so much credit to the players. Okay, okay, Trevor Lawrence,
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Speaker 1: your first game in the NFL. It's a coaching staff too.
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Speaker 1: It's a coaching staff first game, and I think it
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Speaker 1: was pretty obvious it was there. I didn't expect it.
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Speaker 1: I really didn't. I've been impressed with the way the
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Speaker 1: staff has worked through training camp. I really have been.
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Speaker 1: In the preseason games, I didn't expect that, but it
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Speaker 1: just sometimes it's just not your day, right. And it
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Speaker 1: started the first half, started with the time out on
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Speaker 1: the on the opening drive, on what are we doing?
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Speaker 1: And then and at the end of the first half,
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Speaker 1: it just okay, all right. Now in the second half,
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Speaker 1: I was impressed because it seemed like he was swimming
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Speaker 1: a yet. And then he made that beautiful throw to
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Speaker 1: d J Chark where he was patient in the pocket,
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Speaker 1: and the third and fifteen throw to d J Chark
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Speaker 1: where he stepped up into the pocket. He started to
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Speaker 1: settle down. He wasn't great, but he settled down and
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Speaker 1: and it showed me well, like he said, he's made
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Speaker 1: of the right stuff, right, he gets it, and he
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Speaker 1: knows you're not gonna play this bad every week. He's
9:19
Speaker 1: not gonna make three turnovers. I couldn't. I looked it up.
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Speaker 1: I couldn't find where he had ever thrown three interceptions
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Speaker 1: in the game. He never has, he said in his
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Speaker 1: press conference. He's not even a practice. He's never thrown
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Speaker 1: three or seven. Then it's I don't think it's a trend.
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Speaker 1: I think it's a normally. Yeah, I John, I were
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Speaker 1: talking after the game. I was not worried about the
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Speaker 1: all about the turnovers, and maybe I expected a few,
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Speaker 1: but you saw flashes of optimism that made you feel
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Speaker 1: better about those turnovers. There were so many other things
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Speaker 1: that went wrong that the turnovers were like tenth on
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Speaker 1: the list for me. One more comment on the turnovers.
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Speaker 1: Gonna know where I guess. I wasn't shocked at all
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Speaker 1: about the turnovers because every one of those interceptions was
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Speaker 1: textbook week one rookie interception. Hargraves duped him a little
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Speaker 1: bit on the on the second one, On the third one,
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Speaker 1: he just didn't he didn't see the middle linebacker. And
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Speaker 1: on the first one, I always draw a blank. On
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Speaker 1: the first one, Um he was fading to his left. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: threw across the field that Tebok right. All three of
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Speaker 1: them were exactly where you go, Wow, I've seen a
10:21
Speaker 1: million other quarterbacks. You that for me? Why do they
10:23
Speaker 1: do it? Oh? That's why? Because this game's fast and
10:27
Speaker 1: what was cool? John and I talked about this in
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Speaker 1: Rapid Recap. If you haven't seen Trevor Lawrence's press conference,
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Speaker 1: go watched on Jaguars dot com. We're used to when
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Speaker 1: a player makes a mistake or you talk about specific play.
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Speaker 1: Normally they say, I have to go watch the film,
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Speaker 1: and granted it's really hard to remember all that, I
10:42
Speaker 1: get that. I was so impressed that Trevor Lawrence went
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Speaker 1: through every single interception what went wrong? Immediately knew went
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Speaker 1: through every single play. I've never heard that he's terrific. No,
10:52
Speaker 1: he's terrific. And I wrote this in game. That was
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Speaker 1: I thought urban was to write. I mean, for a
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Speaker 1: coach who is known for showing how he feels. I mean,
11:00
Speaker 1: how often did you read in August people who were
11:03
Speaker 1: trying to interpret his body language, and he'll never last.
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Speaker 1: I thought he came in and it was clear to
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Speaker 1: me that he had steeled himself for this eventuality, not
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Speaker 1: that they were going to lose or play badly on
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Speaker 1: the first day, but that it was going to be
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Speaker 1: a long road and he better be ready to stand
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Speaker 1: there calmly and explain it. And I thought he was
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Speaker 1: terrific In the postgame explaining everything out, Trevor was sensational. Um,
11:24
Speaker 1: I couldn't understand Josh Allen with the mask half the time,
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Speaker 1: but I thought he did a good job as well. Uh,
11:29
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it's one game. It's one game.
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Speaker 1: It looks like sixteen others that we've seen, but it wasn't.
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Speaker 1: When coach said, I've been told by many people it's
11:38
Speaker 1: a marathon, not a sprint, said man that describes today.
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Speaker 1: That was clear. It was clear that he was prepared
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Speaker 1: for it. Yes, he was all right. That is big things.
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Speaker 1: We're back here at Jaguars Drive Time Monday morning, coming
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Speaker 1: off I lost the Houston Texans in a lot to
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Speaker 1: go over especially here with these highlights. So let's start
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Speaker 1: right here in the first quarter defensive drive, first drive,
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Speaker 1: Shack Griffin nearly gets the interception. Crazy to think what
14:17
Speaker 1: would have happened if he catches that ball on the
14:20
Speaker 1: next drive. Two opportunities to take the ball away that
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Speaker 1: did not happen under pressure going there and start talk
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Speaker 1: of covert didn't come down with that. The coach from
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Speaker 1: the two yard line in the backfield the handoffs Jackson
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Speaker 1: d Josh Allen said they gotta get the ball. There
14:45
Speaker 1: were two opportunities to get the ball, and ray Sean
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Speaker 1: Jenkins here, he's got to do one or two things obviously,
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Speaker 1: right take it away from Cooks or at least make
14:53
Speaker 1: sure Cooks doesn't catch it. And Cooks is a really
14:56
Speaker 1: good receiving moment. I think you pointed that out, John,
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Speaker 1: and he took it away and that was rightly called
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Speaker 1: and incomplete pass. But well, I tell you what, how
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Speaker 1: does that change? People mention the time that the game
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Speaker 1: take the ball away again. I wrote this last night,
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Speaker 1: I said it last week. Drag Wars had thirteen giveaways
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Speaker 1: take turnovers in the last three years against these guys,
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Speaker 1: and now they have sixteen in the last seven games
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Speaker 1: or credit the Texans there. They called that play because
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Speaker 1: it wouldn't be a fun and it lowers your percentage
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Speaker 1: of having a tournament at that point. And Cooks I
15:31
Speaker 1: thought before the game that people were overrating this whole thing,
15:34
Speaker 1: and well, the Jaguars are a better roster. Cooks would
15:38
Speaker 1: be the number one receiver on this team, I think,
15:40
Speaker 1: so they used him as their go to guy and
15:43
Speaker 1: he caught four passes for yards in touchdown. Remember, going
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Speaker 1: into that game, everybody else but the Texans thought the
15:49
Speaker 1: Texans stopped well. The Texans had a lot of veteran players,
15:53
Speaker 1: and in the NFL, until you are proven that you're
15:56
Speaker 1: not any good. These pro guys think they're good, and
15:59
Speaker 1: they thought they were good, and yesterday they were. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I think going into Houston pregame especially, I was talking
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Speaker 1: to a bunch of people on the field and they said,
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Speaker 1: watch out for this. I mean, look at the difference
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Speaker 1: of age on the roster, Look at the veterans on
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Speaker 1: the Texans, look at the rookies on the jag Wars. Talent, yes,
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Speaker 1: but the experiences vastly. Grown man in the NFL usually
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Speaker 1: beat young man in the NFL, and that was the case.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the offensive side of the ball.
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Speaker 1: In the first quarter. A ton of mistakes, a ton
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Speaker 1: of penalties, lots of self inflicted wounds. But this drive
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Speaker 1: here in the second quarter makes you feel a little
16:29
Speaker 1: bit better. Trevor Lawrence obviously much more comfortable on this drive.
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Speaker 1: Laura touchdown, first real NFL touchdown. True, Chris man Hurts
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Speaker 1: the tight end, And there was some jokes on Twitter
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Speaker 1: that a lot of people didn't expect this would be
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Speaker 1: his first touchdown. Was a tight end touchdown? Well, here's
16:52
Speaker 1: what I like there was that he hit his back foot,
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Speaker 1: identified him through it. I mean, there's no hesitation, you know.
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Speaker 1: It was a great route combination. By the way, credit
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Speaker 1: to the offensive coordinator, you know, for drawing that up
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Speaker 1: and man Hurts got free. And the Texans clearly didn't
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Speaker 1: expect it either. Yeah. I thought all offseason and if
17:11
Speaker 1: I would have bet man Hurst he keeps the first touchdown,
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Speaker 1: but I thought he keeps four or five this year
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Speaker 1: because he has looked not at all like a run
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Speaker 1: blocking tight end. He looked like a guy who can
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Speaker 1: make plays in the passing game. All right, let's stay
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Speaker 1: here in the second quarter, the second Trevor Lawrence interception.
17:24
Speaker 1: This is the one where he knew immediately should not
17:26
Speaker 1: have thrown it, and it led to more points on
17:28
Speaker 1: the board for the Texans. He's bull throwing up. That's
17:38
Speaker 1: hard land hard ran, don't how side and there's office
17:45
Speaker 1: seven yard line already, So now it is mistakes are made.
17:55
Speaker 1: So you got to get into the locker room, right,
17:57
Speaker 1: Brian Well, I mean that's my Monday morning quarterbacking, right,
18:00
Speaker 1: and you always have behindside. I just um from my
18:04
Speaker 1: vantage point again, I saw a quarterback who was swimming
18:07
Speaker 1: at that point. And this is a guy who hadn't
18:09
Speaker 1: thrown two interceptions in a game, let alone a half
18:13
Speaker 1: since his second year of Clempson. I might have changed
18:16
Speaker 1: the approach. And of course, you know they probably were
18:19
Speaker 1: saying the same thing. We probably should have run it
18:20
Speaker 1: there and gotten the clock run down. Yeah, And that
18:23
Speaker 1: was the interception and postgame press comments where he said
18:25
Speaker 1: I never even saw that corner. I saw him on
18:27
Speaker 1: the corner of my eye, and I knew as soon
18:29
Speaker 1: as I let the ball go that's a pick. Yeah.
18:31
Speaker 1: Hargraves probably told teammates on Wednesday, watch I'll get this
18:37
Speaker 1: kid on this plot because you know that was a
18:41
Speaker 1: experienced cover two cornerback. He faded off and then as
18:45
Speaker 1: soon as he saw Lawrence, I mean, Hargraves knew the
18:48
Speaker 1: interceptions coming before Lawrence did, and that happens. That's again,
18:52
Speaker 1: there are textbook rookie interceptions. My guests is Tervian doesn't
18:55
Speaker 1: make that interception or passed again. My guest says, he
18:57
Speaker 1: doesn't make the first one. You know, I was thinking
19:00
Speaker 1: when he made the first interception, when he was rolling
19:02
Speaker 1: out and threw back across the field, I went, that's
19:04
Speaker 1: a mistake. We're gonna see. That's probably not the last
19:07
Speaker 1: turnover he'll have today. It just sometimes you pull the
19:10
Speaker 1: cork out, you know, take your finger out of the
19:12
Speaker 1: out of the wall, and the water comes rushing through that.
19:14
Speaker 1: That's what that felt like yesterday, that he was just
19:16
Speaker 1: they had him and they were going to create some
19:18
Speaker 1: mid situations when you throw the ball fifty one times
19:20
Speaker 1: as a rookie quarterback in your first start, or you're
19:23
Speaker 1: gonna throw a couple of girls. That's why the penalties
19:24
Speaker 1: hurt so much, because all through the first half you're
19:27
Speaker 1: looking at credit at An important thing to remember is
19:32
Speaker 1: third and fifteen. He converted some third and long. Yeah,
19:35
Speaker 1: that's hard to do. Quarterbacks don't do that. But you
19:39
Speaker 1: can't put your quarterback in third and ten, second and twelve,
19:43
Speaker 1: especially a rookie quarterback, and expect to one. Holding penalties,
19:45
Speaker 1: drop passes that don't move the chains, all of those
19:48
Speaker 1: contribute to them. All right, So let's get into the
19:50
Speaker 1: locker room for halftime. Let's make some adjustments. The last
19:53
Speaker 1: thing you want to do is give a play like
19:55
Speaker 1: this with thirteen seconds left and half that sideline lucid
20:03
Speaker 1: pocket who's out going for it all down. I'm sorry
20:09
Speaker 1: to tell twelve seconds on the clock Taylor to throw
20:16
Speaker 1: a touchdown Danny and you saw who he beat, Tyson Campbell. Right,
20:24
Speaker 1: there's your old guys, young guys, and my ones who
20:28
Speaker 1: grow on, which we'll talk about later in the show,
20:30
Speaker 1: is Andre Cisco. And that is because of Andrew Wingard
20:32
Speaker 1: on this play. Yeah, um, yeah, that's that was pretty obvious.
20:36
Speaker 1: It was indeed. All right, let's make this Monday morning
20:39
Speaker 1: a little better. Let's go to the third in the
20:41
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, let's show these Trevor Lawrence touchdowns that say, okay,
20:45
Speaker 1: there's something to build on. We have this guy at quarterback,
20:48
Speaker 1: great lawn with time throwing can cons touch down and
20:58
Speaker 1: that's where I thought he settled down. You know, I
21:00
Speaker 1: talked about him at the end of the half there
21:01
Speaker 1: it seemed like he was swimming, just trying to calm
21:03
Speaker 1: down and get a feel for what was going on.
21:06
Speaker 1: From that moment forward, I felt like even though he
21:08
Speaker 1: threw another interception, he was different. He had he had there,
21:12
Speaker 1: something switched inside and he was better. If you ask
21:15
Speaker 1: me why he's going to be good, the throat a
21:18
Speaker 1: chart is why he can up. That's a beautiful throw there.
21:21
Speaker 1: There are a quarterbacks starting in the NFL who can't
21:23
Speaker 1: make that throw. There have been quarterbacks here in the past.
21:26
Speaker 1: You can't make that throw. He makes that throw, and
21:30
Speaker 1: that throw is the difference between seven and none on
21:34
Speaker 1: that drive. That's where you start tilting scores in your direction.
21:37
Speaker 1: Over time, he he he'll be fine. That's what you
21:41
Speaker 1: can build around. Uh, just gotta give me a good situations.
21:45
Speaker 1: That's gonna be the key this year. I think after
21:46
Speaker 1: those two interceptions in the first half, he was impatient
21:50
Speaker 1: and both of those trying to make a play and
21:51
Speaker 1: realize the speed of the game is different here. These
21:54
Speaker 1: veterans have a different way, uh than the kids in
21:57
Speaker 1: college too. And in the second half you could see
21:59
Speaker 1: him getting more patient. Yeah, he mentioned it in his
22:02
Speaker 1: postgame press conference. I was forcing too much. I was
22:04
Speaker 1: trying to do so much. And I have to understand
22:06
Speaker 1: it's my first start in the NFL. It was pretty
22:09
Speaker 1: obvious he was forcing things that weren't there, especially in
22:11
Speaker 1: the first half. Well, the Cover two defense. As we
22:13
Speaker 1: talked about last week, a couple of things concerned you
22:15
Speaker 1: going into this game. One was the fact that I
22:17
Speaker 1: get that Tyrod Taylor is not an elite quarterback. He's
22:19
Speaker 1: not gonna be the whole of fame. But it worried
22:22
Speaker 1: me a lot that you had a veteran quarterback on
22:25
Speaker 1: the other side capable of extending plays because those guys
22:28
Speaker 1: make weird things above the x's and os happened and
22:31
Speaker 1: he certainly did. And then the fact you're going against
22:33
Speaker 1: to cover two where the zone defenders mean the secondary
22:39
Speaker 1: are drifting back and watching the quarterback's eyes. Uh, that
22:43
Speaker 1: can be trouble against turky quarterback. And I would say
22:47
Speaker 1: all three of those I don't know that they happened
22:50
Speaker 1: against man to man coverage. They were watching Traivor's eyes
22:52
Speaker 1: and they read them. Yeah, and Tyrods had I will say,
22:56
Speaker 1: I was looking back and I was like, okay, well
22:57
Speaker 1: how is the past thrush? And statistically it didn't look
22:59
Speaker 1: like it was very good. But you watch these highlights
23:01
Speaker 1: in their there, like the thirteen second play before halftime,
23:04
Speaker 1: Caleb on Jason's right there to make the play, and
23:06
Speaker 1: it just seemed like Tyrod Taylor time and again would
23:09
Speaker 1: just slip away. And that's that's the veteran quarterback who
23:12
Speaker 1: still obviously has the ability to make Guys, miss um,
23:16
Speaker 1: I'm gonna you gonna make plays in the secondary on
23:18
Speaker 1: those balls. I mean that's a big if you bear
23:22
Speaker 1: around the NFL at all, you hear you guys says
23:24
Speaker 1: gonna make the play. They did make a play in
23:25
Speaker 1: the second year. No they did not, all right, And
23:27
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Speaker 1: c U. A uh we Now, we just got to
25:35
Speaker 1: collect those of turnovers. Man, we gotta get the ball.
25:37
Speaker 1: That's what that's That's one thing we had to really
25:39
Speaker 1: hard ball is getting the ball. We didn't get We
25:42
Speaker 1: didn't have that many opportunities to get the ball, but
25:44
Speaker 1: we gotta go get him. And that's not to me.
25:46
Speaker 1: I sailed to you gonna say all the other defense players,
25:49
Speaker 1: We've gotta get the ball. Got to Josh Allen with
25:52
Speaker 1: a sack early in the game. But like he said,
25:54
Speaker 1: the turnovers were not made. Lots of opportunities at the
25:57
Speaker 1: beginning of the game that would have really changed the
26:00
Speaker 1: entire momentum of the game against the Houston Texans. Welcome
26:03
Speaker 1: back to Jaguars Drive time on a Monday morning. It's
26:06
Speaker 1: time for some hot takes, maybe some overreaction Monday that
26:09
Speaker 1: we're trying to settle down. I don't I told you
26:14
Speaker 1: last week that Jaguars quarterback since the start of twenty
26:17
Speaker 1: nineteen had thrown the ball thirty five times or more
26:21
Speaker 1: in a game sixteen times, and the Jaguars were one
26:23
Speaker 1: in fifteen. All right, well, now make that seventeen times
26:27
Speaker 1: and they are one in sixteen. So next week, no
26:30
Speaker 1: more than thirty passes. Right, a little hyperbole there, Draw
26:34
Speaker 1: a hard line in the sand and stick with a
26:36
Speaker 1: running game early, because that's how this kid. You've got
26:39
Speaker 1: to help this kid. You've got to be able to
26:41
Speaker 1: run the ball. It's not all on the play calling.
26:43
Speaker 1: It's in the execution. To keep your hands in, don't
26:46
Speaker 1: give them a reason to throw the flag. The offensive
26:49
Speaker 1: line has to play better. The receivers have to catch
26:53
Speaker 1: the ball and convert and keep them in running situations.
26:56
Speaker 1: I'm not just talking about run, run, run, the call
26:59
Speaker 1: for coming from m. Darrell Bevel. Everyone's got to do
27:01
Speaker 1: their job. You've got to help this kid. You can't
27:04
Speaker 1: have him throwing the ball fifty one times. Thirty three
27:08
Speaker 1: games they've played since the start of the two thou
27:10
Speaker 1: nineteen season, half of them they have thrown the ball
27:13
Speaker 1: at least thirty five times. They've won one of those one.
27:17
Speaker 1: Pretty simple. Don't throw the ball more than thirty times.
27:20
Speaker 1: Everybody do their job. Stick with the running again. I'm
27:23
Speaker 1: glad to clarify that, because again, after watching, I did
27:26
Speaker 1: not think that they wanted to do that. Uh. I
27:29
Speaker 1: guess what we've got taken away from him? If you
27:30
Speaker 1: commit a bunch of holding penalties this week and you're
27:34
Speaker 1: you're facing second and sixteen, you be throwing it again
27:36
Speaker 1: and you're down by fourteen, he's gonna complete thirty, might
27:40
Speaker 1: have two interceptions and it's gonna I mean yeah. Play
27:42
Speaker 1: calling isn't always on the coaches, right, and in this
27:45
Speaker 1: particular case, it's absolutely not all on the coaches. They
27:48
Speaker 1: got away from the running game. They probably should have
27:50
Speaker 1: kept calling those plays. However, how do you do it
27:52
Speaker 1: when you've got hold, hold, hold, hold, drop passes, all
27:55
Speaker 1: kinds of mistakes that put them in bad situations. Everyone
27:59
Speaker 1: has to do their job on the field so that
28:02
Speaker 1: you can stick with the running again themselves. No favors. Yeah,
28:06
Speaker 1: and my hot take I don't I know how it.
28:09
Speaker 1: Sometimes my hot takes her just warm, just warm. Us
28:15
Speaker 1: need to do simple things to improve. That sounds simple,
28:19
Speaker 1: but it's not always easy to do fundamental things better,
28:22
Speaker 1: you know. And so they've got to cut of the
28:25
Speaker 1: holding town. They have to run better, they have to
28:28
Speaker 1: get lined up pre snap better. Uh and that's and
28:31
Speaker 1: that all sounds very easy. And I guess the reason
28:33
Speaker 1: I say this is we're all on here, and coaches
28:36
Speaker 1: love to say, well, it's correctable. Well, but you gotta
28:39
Speaker 1: correct it. You can't just sort of say, well, it's correctable,
28:42
Speaker 1: so we weren't. You can't just tell yourself, well, the
28:45
Speaker 1: Texans weren't better than us, and say what, we made
28:47
Speaker 1: some mistakes. You've got to go get that right. And
28:50
Speaker 1: you've got to do fundamental things that are hard to
28:53
Speaker 1: do much better. Uh. So it's a big task for
28:57
Speaker 1: this thing. I mean, it seems one in fifteen last year,
29:00
Speaker 1: I picked you to win six or seven. They need
29:05
Speaker 1: to do hard things well to dig out of that hole.
29:08
Speaker 1: I mean easy things well, and you know, because you're
29:10
Speaker 1: out there. Before they even stretch, they go through a
29:12
Speaker 1: series of fundamental drills where they move from station to
29:16
Speaker 1: station and work on the very basics. It's not that
29:18
Speaker 1: they don't work on it. I can't tell you why
29:21
Speaker 1: they didn't execute it yesterday. But all I'm is, I'm watching,
29:24
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, what about all that work that they do
29:26
Speaker 1: before they even stressed? Baffled urban little bit we work
29:30
Speaker 1: our tails off, and they see it. They know it,
29:33
Speaker 1: urban knows what he put him through. Uh. Sometimes if
29:36
Speaker 1: it happens again this week, then you start questioning players. Sure,
29:41
Speaker 1: and that kind of leads to my hot take, which
29:43
Speaker 1: this is hot. It's war. It's a hot take. This
29:46
Speaker 1: sounds dumb. I know it does, but it seems like
29:49
Speaker 1: everything needs to be dumbed down. And I'm saying this
29:52
Speaker 1: more so offensively. Standing on the sidelines, it was clear
29:57
Speaker 1: as day there is confusion, especially substitutions. There are some
30:01
Speaker 1: wrinkles in this offense that you could say, Okay, it's
30:04
Speaker 1: a complex apostrophe. Offense needs to be dumbed down because
30:09
Speaker 1: the guys can't get lined up. There's no substitution. I
30:12
Speaker 1: think this week, maybe you practice a strictly practice of substitution.
30:16
Speaker 1: Coach Meyer is very keen on getting a ton of
30:18
Speaker 1: reps in practice. We're gonna hear from them at one
30:20
Speaker 1: thirty today live on Jaguars dot Com. I want to know,
30:23
Speaker 1: how do you fix this? Is it just working on
30:26
Speaker 1: it this week and it's fixed, or do you change
30:28
Speaker 1: a little bit of the offense Because we all saw it,
30:31
Speaker 1: it was clear there was a ton of confusion. Of
30:33
Speaker 1: who's in on what place, dumb it down. Nothing wrong
30:36
Speaker 1: with being a little dumbed down, right, Yeah, it will.
30:39
Speaker 1: And usually in the NFL, when you get blown out
30:44
Speaker 1: and look over match, it's not a talent issue. It's
30:49
Speaker 1: more let's go back to the basics. Let's make sure
30:52
Speaker 1: it's not too complicated. That's age old. I think they
30:54
Speaker 1: will do that. In two thousand six, the Jaguars ran
30:58
Speaker 1: for yards into the Colts. I told the stream before
31:01
Speaker 1: you were here covering for the Colts, and and the
31:04
Speaker 1: general just ran over them. And at the time they
31:06
Speaker 1: rate in five and look like maybe they'd be playoff team.
31:08
Speaker 1: Of course, the Colts they ripped off thirteam wins that year.
31:12
Speaker 1: They went into that when they went into that nine
31:15
Speaker 1: and great team right, and Tony Dungee in the Super
31:19
Speaker 1: Bowl Team right won the Super Bowl. Tony Dungee in
31:21
Speaker 1: his postgame locker room, I went all the way to
31:23
Speaker 1: watch it, and he said, we'll fix it. It's just
31:24
Speaker 1: one or two things will correct it. And I thought,
31:26
Speaker 1: he's crazy, how are they going to fix that seventy
31:29
Speaker 1: five yards? And yet he did and they won the
31:31
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. They made a tweak here in a tweak there,
31:33
Speaker 1: guys did their job better and the Colts won the
31:36
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. It was a great lesson and that is
31:38
Speaker 1: is that sometimes you can make drastic change with small adjustments.
31:43
Speaker 1: And I think that's what urban Meyer's goal probably will
31:46
Speaker 1: be this week is to go back and do the
31:48
Speaker 1: things that they do in the routine and the rhythm
31:50
Speaker 1: that they do them, and to do them better. One
31:52
Speaker 1: thing that Colts did team did is is that is
31:56
Speaker 1: I get Bob Sanders healthy. He's now walking through the door.
31:58
Speaker 1: But you do have to There's no question. That's what
32:02
Speaker 1: I learned an the cults about anything else from Tony
32:04
Speaker 1: get simple, be able to play faster, and it solves
32:08
Speaker 1: a lot of ailes. All right, Well, we'll see if
32:10
Speaker 1: the Jaguars can do that this week. Getting ready for
32:12
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos to come to Jacksonville on Sunday for
32:15
Speaker 1: a home game. When we come back, one to grow on.
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Speaker 1: Shield one to grow on. After that's lost the Houston Texans.
34:16
Speaker 1: Three players that we picked out that was said, all right,
34:19
Speaker 1: we can work with this, Brian, what are you thinking?
34:21
Speaker 1: I'm going with Caleb and Chason. And I realized that
34:23
Speaker 1: when he watches the tape today of Tyrod Taylor's you know,
34:27
Speaker 1: making him look like a you know, do a pirouette
34:31
Speaker 1: right um and then connecting on the fifty two yard
34:34
Speaker 1: he was there and he was in his face a lot.
34:36
Speaker 1: And I said last week who can win? Right? Who
34:40
Speaker 1: can win? One on one? We know Josh Allen can win,
34:43
Speaker 1: but it gets tough when he's the only one because
34:46
Speaker 1: they're gonna slide the protection to him. Well, if Caleban
34:49
Speaker 1: Chason is in the backfield all the time, whether he's
34:52
Speaker 1: making the player or not, if he's back there, offensive
34:54
Speaker 1: coordinators an offensive linemen are going to have to account
34:56
Speaker 1: for him. You can teach him how to make the play.
35:00
Speaker 1: He'll learn from that how to make the play. Um.
35:03
Speaker 1: But he picked off picked up where he left off
35:06
Speaker 1: last year, which was he was he was ascending as
35:08
Speaker 1: the season came to an end. And I think he
35:11
Speaker 1: and Josh Allen are going to get into a rhythm
35:13
Speaker 1: and give you a nice pass rush. Yeah, there's so
35:15
Speaker 1: many cases yesterday and Caleban fell into that. Shaq Griffin.
35:19
Speaker 1: I think we'll make plays, but it couldn't quite come
35:22
Speaker 1: down with the interception. Tyson Campbell look like he chased
35:25
Speaker 1: a couple of times, you know, when the moments there,
35:30
Speaker 1: and again I go back to arn back as far
35:34
Speaker 1: as ninety six talking to Aaron Beasley Jaguary's corner, him
35:38
Speaker 1: saying over and over again, most of the guys in
35:40
Speaker 1: the league can be there at the moment the ball
35:42
Speaker 1: is there. It's who makes the play. And there are
35:46
Speaker 1: a couple of times yesterday where if they make the
35:48
Speaker 1: play when it's there, the game changes when you play
35:51
Speaker 1: by the XS and nose, which is what Tyrod Taylor
35:53
Speaker 1: did to Caleban, and all of a sudden, game goes
35:55
Speaker 1: the other way. You have to make the play well.
35:57
Speaker 1: And the difference between highly paid safety and an all
36:00
Speaker 1: pro safety is is that he comes down with the ball,
36:02
Speaker 1: he takes the ball away from Brandon Cooks right that
36:05
Speaker 1: he didn't make the play. Now, will he have other
36:07
Speaker 1: chances to make the play? Yeah? I think so. I
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Speaker 1: think Rayel Jenkins is a pretty nice player, but he's
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Speaker 1: got to you got you paid the money to make
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Speaker 1: the play that changes the outcome of the game. Potentially.
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Speaker 1: Totally agree. Uh, I have Chris man Hurts, which Alread
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Speaker 1: talked about him a little bit in the show. Um,
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Speaker 1: he's surprised everybody, I think by his athleticism and training
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Speaker 1: camp and some of the plays that he made. Did
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Speaker 1: it again yesterday. I don't think he's gonna be a
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Speaker 1: thousand yard tight end, but I do wonder if he's
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Speaker 1: going to or I do believe he's going to be
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Speaker 1: a better receiving threat that most people gave him credit for.
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Speaker 1: He had one yesterday, so he's on paced for seventeen
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Speaker 1: touchdowns a pro year. But I'll say on a serious note,
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Speaker 1: I do think he has a chance to catch six
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Speaker 1: seven touchdowns. He's he's definitely a good blocker. I think
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Speaker 1: he is going to be a real fined and free
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Speaker 1: from free agency. This from the moment he arrived. Urban
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Speaker 1: Meyer gushed about his ability to move people. But we
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Speaker 1: saw him in training camp. He's a power forward. He's
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Speaker 1: got the big body and the long arms. I'm with
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Speaker 1: you on six or seven touchdowns, but I thought they'd
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Speaker 1: be red zone touchdowns. I didn't know they'd be seen
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Speaker 1: touchdowns that you know. It's I like what I see
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Speaker 1: there there. There's obviously something that you can work with
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Speaker 1: their Uh. He moved people in the running game now too.
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Speaker 1: They just couldn't stick with it. You just can get
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Speaker 1: enough a chance to see them, all right. My one
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Speaker 1: to grow on is Andre Cisco. And I know what
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Speaker 1: you're thinking. He only had one tackle Ashland. He didn't start.
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Speaker 1: What do you mean want to grow on? That's the point.
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Speaker 1: Give him the reps to grow. Andrew Wingard good special
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Speaker 1: teams player, I think we all agree, struggled yesterday not
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Speaker 1: making big plays and being lost on those big plays.
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Speaker 1: If Andre Cisco is your future at safety and the
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Speaker 1: ball hawk that we all think he is, put him
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Speaker 1: in to start this week against the Denver Broncos and
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Speaker 1: give him the chance to grow and what he needs
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Speaker 1: to be. This is pure speculation, it's just that, but
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Speaker 1: Cisco is the kind of guy. He proved at Syracuse
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Speaker 1: he was a ball hawk with thirteen takeaways. He probably
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Speaker 1: does a better job on the fifty two yard ball
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Speaker 1: to Brandon Cooks, um I didn't. I know he does
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Speaker 1: a better job. He's a better athlete, he's a better player,
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Speaker 1: and he's proven it with his body of work. I
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Speaker 1: think just movement and starting line of let's go. He's
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Speaker 1: the guy who makes players with the ball in the air. Yes,
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Speaker 1: and you can make it work. Put wing guard on
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Speaker 1: special teams, make it, find a way to make it
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Speaker 1: work for both sides. But I think that is clear
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Speaker 1: as day going into week two. I don't think you
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Speaker 1: get a lot of argument. Okay, good, I thought I
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Speaker 1: probably wouldn't, and I don't seem to be. Thank you
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Speaker 1: Head coach Urban Meyer addresses the media live here at
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