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Coach Pederson on Persevering Through Injuries in Week 14 | The Doug Pederson Show · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to The Doug Peterson Show, brought you by Fresh
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  Speaker 1: from Florida. JP Shadrick and former Jaguar Jeff Logoman discuss
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  Speaker 1: the latest Jaguars news with the head coach. The Doug
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  Speaker 1: Peterson Show starts right now.
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  Speaker 2: And The Doug Peterson Show presented by Fresh from Florida
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  Speaker 2: from the Hyundai Studios at the Miller Electric Center. J. P. Shadwick,
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  Speaker 2: Jeff Logerman and Jaguars head coach Doug Peterson headed a
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  Speaker 2: week fourteen and let's go to Cleveland Lake Erie and
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  Speaker 2: should be kind of a wet, cold day.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to Cleveland in December. Yeah, welcome, Welcome to Cleveland.
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  Speaker 4: It's late obviously, you know it's gonna be a great
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  Speaker 4: experience up there.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to you have to deal with some elements,
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  Speaker 4: you know, which is fine.
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  Speaker 5: You are guys will be ready for that.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, we're going in there against a team
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  Speaker 4: that's you know, a really good defense. We know that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, offense obviously they're their quarterback issues, you know
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  Speaker 4: they're but look it, they're coming off of loss. We're
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  Speaker 4: coming off a loss. We just got to go and respond.
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  Speaker 4: And our guys have always done that.
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  Speaker 6: Did you ever play in the old stadium, the old
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  Speaker 6: mistake by the lake?
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  Speaker 3: I did? What do you remember that?
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  Speaker 6: Because I got one memory, I want to see if
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  Speaker 6: it's the same.
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  Speaker 5: My memory there.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, I was a backup quarterback with Miami Dolphins,
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  Speaker 4: and that's where Dan Marino blew out his achilles that day.
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  Speaker 4: Was was in the old Memorial Stadium there in Cleveland,
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  Speaker 4: and and it was on the you know, there's also
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  Speaker 4: the baseball field and the whole thing, and and you
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  Speaker 4: know that's that's the that's the memory I had there.
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  Speaker 4: Scott Mitchell came in and and we ended up winning
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  Speaker 4: that game, and I was thrust into the backup duties
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  Speaker 4: the next week. So that's that's my memory of Cleveland.
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  Speaker 6: I lost a PC all on that field. And the
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  Speaker 6: other memory is the locker room. You remember the locker
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  Speaker 6: the locker room, the smallest locker room in league history.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly right. It was small.
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  Speaker 2: It was really small. So what's the baseball roster JP
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  Speaker 2: twenty five?
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  Speaker 6: Okay, imagine twenty five lockers for.
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  Speaker 3: I know it was tiny. Obviously.
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  Speaker 2: The big storyline this week for the Jags is the
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  Speaker 2: health concerns for this team, most notably with quarterback Trevor
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  Speaker 2: Lawrence right high ankle spraying as of Thursday was the
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  Speaker 2: latest with Trevor and what he was seeing out of
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  Speaker 2: the training room.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean our training room's full this week.
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  Speaker 4: Who got a lot of guys in there, and we
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  Speaker 4: got we got beat up a little bit in the
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  Speaker 4: Monday night game. But you know, Trevor's trending in the
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  Speaker 4: right direction. You know, it's just kind of day by
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  Speaker 4: day with him and and we'll see, we'll see where
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  Speaker 4: he's at, you know, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and heading into
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  Speaker 4: this football game. But look, I you know, you never
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  Speaker 4: want to put a guy in a box and they
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  Speaker 4: say he can't do something, because you know, we've seen,
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  Speaker 4: we've seen Trevor bounce back from injury before. But you know,
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  Speaker 4: if not at CJ. Bethard will go and and and
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  Speaker 4: he'll be ready and he'll get he'll get you know,
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  Speaker 4: and has gotten the bulk of the reps this week,
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  Speaker 4: so you know, we're very confident in that too.
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  Speaker 6: I've never had one of those, but they say that
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  Speaker 6: the high ankle is one of the most painful injuries
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  Speaker 6: that that you can have.
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  Speaker 3: Did you ever have one?
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  Speaker 5: I did have one. In college. They are pretty painful.
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  Speaker 5: You know. The concern is that the fractures right.
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  Speaker 4: Because that's it's usually up on your fibula and in
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  Speaker 4: places like that. And and we were fortunate that none
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  Speaker 4: of that happened or you know, Trevor didn't you know,
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  Speaker 4: assume any of those injuries there.
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  Speaker 5: But they are painful and they take time.
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  Speaker 4: It's not a it's not an injury that you know
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  Speaker 4: a couple of days and you're you're running around and
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  Speaker 4: jumping and doing all those things on your ankle. So
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  Speaker 4: you know, we're just fortunate that everything is stable and
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  Speaker 4: training in the right direction.
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  Speaker 6: Well, you you talked about the number that you had
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  Speaker 6: on Monday night, Uh, Walker, little Trey, Hearndon, Gosh, how
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  Speaker 6: are all those guys doing?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and Christian too, Yeah, you're ready, you
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  Speaker 4: know obviously, Christian we know is gonna miss He's gonna
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  Speaker 4: you know, have surgery and and and get that repaired
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  Speaker 4: and and hopefully we get him back you know soon,
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  Speaker 4: and we'll just see how that goes. But you know,
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  Speaker 4: we're optimistic there, you know, Fully is you know back
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  Speaker 4: on the practice field and and he's he's he's doing okay.
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  Speaker 4: He's kind of a day to day you know guy
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  Speaker 4: right now. Obviously Trey Herndon's in the protocol, so we
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  Speaker 4: got to make sure that you know that he's cleared
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  Speaker 4: before anything happens there.
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  Speaker 5: And then you know, just.
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  Speaker 4: We got the typical bumps and bruises. You know, this
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  Speaker 4: time of year, TJ's sore. Obviously, you know, the more
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  Speaker 4: that Deernest is playing, he's getting more sore.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 5: But every team is in the same situation.
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  Speaker 4: Every team is dealing with injury, every team is going
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  Speaker 4: through it. It's kind of the so what now what mentality,
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  Speaker 4: And you know, our guys need to embrace it.
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  Speaker 3: And just move forward. Yeah, nobody wants to hear it.
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  Speaker 5: They don't want to hear it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, And in Cleveland this week, the first thing that
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  Speaker 6: you mentioned about them was their defense. What makes their
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  Speaker 6: defense great? For me, it's it's ninety five. But for you,
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  Speaker 6: what do you see?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I see Jim Schwartz all over this defense. I
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  Speaker 4: see his his fingerprints on it. It's the wide nine,
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  Speaker 4: it's the it's the jet rush. Get off the ball,
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  Speaker 4: defensive line, let's put pressure with four, keep eye all
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  Speaker 4: eyes you know on the quarterback with their second and
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  Speaker 4: third level defenders. But you're right, ninety five is is
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  Speaker 4: a game wrecker. He's you know, him and Aaron Donald
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  Speaker 4: or probably two of the best D linemen in the
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  Speaker 4: National Football League right now.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, ninety five.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously, Miles Garrett is probably the best one or will
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  Speaker 4: be the best one that we face all season long.
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  Speaker 4: And that's and we face some good ones, you know,
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  Speaker 4: this year. But you know, he's one man, obviously, and
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  Speaker 4: we got to make sure that that he doesn't wreck
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  Speaker 4: the game for us. I know he's gonna affect the game,
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  Speaker 4: but he can't wreck it for us. And making sure
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  Speaker 4: that uh, you know, everybody that has an opportunity to
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  Speaker 4: to chip or bang or thump or you know, block
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  Speaker 4: him that we we do it because you know, he's
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  Speaker 4: such a great player and you got to give give
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  Speaker 4: guys like that their respect.
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  Speaker 2: Head coach Jake Peterson with us on the other side,
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  Speaker 2: the Browns offense has used four different quarterbacks this year.
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  Speaker 2: JAG's defense last week struggles against the run, the highest
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  Speaker 2: rushing yards allowed. And you know, with all those changes
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  Speaker 2: on offense for the Browns, it feels like a lot
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  Speaker 2: of times they kind of go to the run to
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  Speaker 2: set some things up. But you know, how do you
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  Speaker 2: have fixed the run defense from last week? What happened
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  Speaker 2: looking back at it, and and that's always priority number
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  Speaker 2: one for the Jags.
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  Speaker 4: Dude, you know when I look back at it on Tuesday,
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  Speaker 4: you know this week it was just discipline and with
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  Speaker 4: some lack of discipline in the run fits up front,
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  Speaker 4: D line linebackers just just out of gaps and things
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  Speaker 4: that you know, we've been caught in a little bit
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  Speaker 4: this season, right when when teams have had success running
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  Speaker 4: the football, and we just got to make sure that
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  Speaker 4: we stayed disciplined and and just trust our eyes, trust
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  Speaker 4: our rules, get off of blocks. I mean, we all
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  Speaker 4: know that the D line is it's a it's a
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  Speaker 4: it's a it's a tough physical position and they got
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  Speaker 4: to shed even combo blocks and double teams and things
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  Speaker 4: of that nature and try to make plays or at
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  Speaker 4: least affect the running back. And then you know, missing tackles.
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  Speaker 4: That's one of the things that you know, we we
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  Speaker 4: didn't do a very good job. We did a poor
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  Speaker 4: job last week of tackling, particularly in space, and then
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  Speaker 4: we got to make sure that we wrap guys up.
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  Speaker 4: They've They've got a pretty good running back back there,
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  Speaker 4: and and you know they they can make some plays
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  Speaker 4: in the running game. And so you know, stay disciplined,
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  Speaker 4: stay true to yourself, you know, be physical, make tackles
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  Speaker 4: when you can, and you know.
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  Speaker 5: That's how you that's how you figure out and stop
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  Speaker 5: the run game.
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  Speaker 2: Doug, the mist tackling thing. You guys have been tackling
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  Speaker 2: pretty well all year. Why all of a sudden this time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, it's I don't know, it's it's
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  Speaker 4: a it's a head scratcher. Sometimes sometimes it's about, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you stop your feet. You don't continue to run through
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  Speaker 4: the tackle. You're anticipating a move, you know by a
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  Speaker 4: receiver or a running back who has the ball, and
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  Speaker 4: so you know, it's just a conscious effort to continue
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  Speaker 4: to you know, pursue and and be be the aggressor
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  Speaker 4: you know when you're when you're making tackles. But the
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  Speaker 4: number one thing is just don't stop your feet, stay
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  Speaker 4: on the move.
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  Speaker 6: You guys have been at your best defensively when you
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  Speaker 6: play that brand of bully ball. Or your guys upfront,
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  Speaker 6: when I say upfront, you know, the three down big guys,
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  Speaker 6: the outside linebackers. Inside linebackers are big, strong and powerful.
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  Speaker 6: And now I don't want to say you have to
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  Speaker 6: be that way, but that really is the secret to
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  Speaker 6: your defensive success.
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  Speaker 4: It has been, and that's that's the reason we've had
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  Speaker 4: some you know success against the run. Is that the
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  Speaker 4: guys up front, you know, and this is a game
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  Speaker 4: you know Sunday that there's gonna be some weather, it's
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  Speaker 4: gonna be cold, it's gonna be probably that that you know,
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  Speaker 4: pounding type ground football game, and and uh, you know
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  Speaker 4: we're footing could be a little treacherous, you know, on
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  Speaker 4: on the grass and things of that nature. But controlling
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  Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage in games like this, and it's
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  Speaker 4: it's our offensive line, it's our defensive line, right, it's
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  Speaker 4: the it's the mentality of who wants to be more
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  Speaker 4: physical and control that. And you know, our guys have
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  Speaker 4: always risen to the to the occasion. And again, like
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  Speaker 4: I said, they've always rebounded after a setback, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: would expect nothing.
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  Speaker 6: Less because that is the first step to success. And
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  Speaker 6: then the next step is, Okay, who's playing quarterback for
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  Speaker 6: the Cleveland Browns And as part of your preparation, how
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  Speaker 6: do you go about that, What do you expect or
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  Speaker 6: are you just preparing for a system or a scheme
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  Speaker 6: or are you preparing for both?
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  Speaker 5: You you expect both, you prepare kind of for both.
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  Speaker 4: But but you know, if if Dorian goes, I mean
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  Speaker 4: he was you know, in practice this week, and if
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  Speaker 4: he can go, I mean there's a mobile guy that
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  Speaker 4: can move around, and they've kind of given us some fits.
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  Speaker 5: You know, the guys that can.
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  Speaker 3: Scramble a little bit. You go back to the CJ.
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  Speaker 4: Strouds and you know the Gardner Minshews and guys that
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  Speaker 4: are mobile, that can move, I mean, they they can
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  Speaker 4: create plays.
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  Speaker 3: With their legs.
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  Speaker 4: You know, if it's Joe Flacco, you kind of know
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  Speaker 4: he's going to be in the in the pocket, you
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  Speaker 4: know where he's gonna be. But Joe's a smart, veteran guy.
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  Speaker 4: He'll get the ball out of his hand and he's
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  Speaker 4: he's an accurate passer and he throws a really good
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  Speaker 4: deep ball. So you know, there's two different styles that
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  Speaker 4: you have to be prepared for. So the guys will
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  Speaker 4: do a great job this week of obviously, you know,
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  Speaker 4: looking at all the tape and preparing either way.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Coach five games to go, and I think
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  Speaker 2: the Miami head coach said it this week. Tell me
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  Speaker 2: when the season ends after twelve or thirteen games, there's
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  Speaker 2: still a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Of football left to go.
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  Speaker 2: They're the number one seed right now, obviously, the Jaguars
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  Speaker 2: at number four, number one in the division, tight division race.
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  Speaker 2: You expected this kind of thing though. This is December,
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  Speaker 2: this is when it gets tight. And what do you
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  Speaker 2: expect from more response from the Jaguars team.
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  Speaker 5: I expect, you know, big things from our team.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, I expect that our guys and they should,
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  Speaker 4: they should embrace this time of year, you know, and
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  Speaker 4: our expectation is to be in first place, you know,
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  Speaker 4: in our division each year. That's our expectation, right, And
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  Speaker 4: so with that they need to embrace that. They need
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  Speaker 4: to lean into that and and not look down the road.
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  Speaker 4: Let's not look past Cleveland obviously, or Baltimore or whoever
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  Speaker 4: we got left on our schedule. But let's focus on
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  Speaker 4: the moment. Let's focus on this one and get getting
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  Speaker 4: back on track. And and you know, we control everything.
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  Speaker 4: We're in the driver's seat, as you mentioned, and and
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  Speaker 4: you know, it's one thing about our guys that I
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  Speaker 4: want them to understand is get used to these types
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  Speaker 4: of games, get used to meaningful games in the month
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  Speaker 4: of December and January and then ultimately in the postseason,
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  Speaker 4: because that's where if you get over that hump, you've
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  Speaker 4: got a confident group. You've got a confident team. You
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  Speaker 4: know where where sky's the limit, you know, after that.
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  Speaker 6: And it's got to be nothing better than a team
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  Speaker 6: that's mode of after the Monday light night disappointment. As
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  Speaker 6: a player, the first thing you want to do is
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  Speaker 6: get back and play well.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly right, you know.
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  Speaker 5: And and guys have a lot of pride obviously, and the.
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  Speaker 4: Leadership of the team has been been vocal this week
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  Speaker 4: and really you know, I don't want to say outspoken,
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  Speaker 4: but just you can see them leading the team like
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  Speaker 4: they they should and like they know how to do
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  Speaker 4: and and you know, so I'm excited to watch these
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  Speaker 4: guys play on Sunday.
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  Speaker 6: Just the last question here, you mentioned leadership and a
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  Speaker 6: lot of guys you probably expected to be leaders. Has
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  Speaker 6: there been maybe a surprise of a player that is
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  Speaker 6: stepping up in a leadership role that maybe you didn't
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  Speaker 6: expect at the beginning of the season.
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  Speaker 4: Well, there is one guy that he doesn't say a
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  Speaker 4: whole lot. He's actually on my leadership council and that's
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  Speaker 4: Darius Williams. And here's a guy that you know, we
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  Speaker 4: we brought in here coming off a Super Bowl win
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  Speaker 4: with the Rams, right, and he knows what it's like
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  Speaker 4: to be in big games. You know what it's like
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  Speaker 4: to you know, and to be in that final game.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, he's been more vocal. He's been more
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  Speaker 4: vocal with his position group, he's been more vocal with
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  Speaker 4: the team. And he doesn't say a whole lot. He's
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  Speaker 4: very quiet, goes about his business and all of that.
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  Speaker 4: And so he's he's been a bright spot, you know,
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  Speaker 4: obviously for me and listening to what he's had to
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  Speaker 4: say to the.
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  Speaker 5: Team has been very positive.
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  Speaker 2: Veteran player Jacksonville native as well, and in his early
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  Speaker 2: thirties now and playing really good football this year too.
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  Speaker 3: Coach, thanks for the time.
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  Speaker 5: As always, we'll talk to you a little later, yep,
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  Speaker 5: thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Head coach. Doug Peterson with us. In about twenty minutes.
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  Speaker 2: Charles Davis of CBS Sports joins us, and this is
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  Speaker 2: the Doug Peterson Show on the Jaguars Radio Network.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back the Doug Peterson Show continues right now.
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  Speaker 2: And The Doug Peterson Show presented by Fresh from Florida.
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  Speaker 2: Food tastes better when it's grown closer to home, JP, Shadrick,
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  Speaker 2: Jeff Logman from the Hundai Studios at the Miller Electric Center.
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  Speaker 2: Our thanks to head coach Doug Peterson, the Jacks and
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  Speaker 2: the Browns coming up and obviously all eyes on the
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  Speaker 2: quarterback Trevor Lawrence on the practice field today limited with
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  Speaker 2: the high ankle spraying and is the right leg?
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  Speaker 3: Okay?
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  Speaker 2: Would you take away from the head coach's comments there
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  Speaker 2: about number sixteen?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I think what, First of all, you can tell
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  Speaker 6: that he's keeping that information close to the vestment and
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  Speaker 6: also you don't know, I mean today's Thursday. Yes, you
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  Speaker 6: have another day to evaluate the situation and where that's
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  Speaker 6: at it as a walk through Saturday, yes, So there's
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  Speaker 6: a lot that can happen between now and then.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, I.
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  Speaker 6: Kind of joke around saying that he wasn't going to
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  Speaker 6: give us any information, but part of that is is
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  Speaker 6: because the information is constantly changing based upon the ankle
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  Speaker 6: and how he feels and the treatment that he's receiving.
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  Speaker 6: You know, nowadays They have some of these stem units
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  Speaker 6: that they literally sending the player home with and they're
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  Speaker 6: sleeping with it twenty four hours a day. It's staying
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  Speaker 6: on their ankle almost you know.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's definitely a little bit more advanced than than
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  Speaker 6: the old day. Just throw a bag of ice on
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  Speaker 6: it and elevate it. You know, the old rice acronym
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  Speaker 6: rest ice compression elevation. You remember that I do, now, Yes, okay,
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  Speaker 6: that's the secret.
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  Speaker 2: I will say that the training room, as Doug Peterson
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  Speaker 2: alluded to, is crowded, and Jeff Ferguson and his crew
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  Speaker 2: have their hands full this week. Robbie and Cassie and
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  Speaker 2: Raoul and fantastic.
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  Speaker 6: They got a great team, a great team with all
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  Speaker 6: of every every medical advancement technology they have. They have
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  Speaker 6: it which is amazing, and the new facility is just
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  Speaker 6: top notch.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: I'd be curious, and you're not a doctor. You had
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: operated on like twenty seven times or something.
• 14:51
  Speaker 6: But I did stay at a yeah, a little hotel
• 14:54
  Speaker 6: last night.
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: At what point is treatment too much? At some point
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: you just have to let it rest naturally, right, Am
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: I crazy?
• 15:01
  Speaker 7: No?
• 15:01
  Speaker 6: I mean I think there's there's treatments that can go
• 15:04
  Speaker 6: around the claw that's without agitating.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, you know what I mean. Yeah, No, I
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: know what you're saying. A lot of times, just like lady,
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: if you try to exercise something as part of the rehab,
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: it can be too much and it can be detrimental
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: to the progress. Totally understand what you're saying. But a
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: lot of the passive rehab protocols are are some are
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: something that are not necessarily negative to continue to do.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: The other part of this story, which has not been
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: as widely talked about, is CJ. Bethard's injury left shoulder,
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: and he's been on the list this week. After the
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: first play when he came into the game he fell
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: on that left shoulder. Well, he's been limited both days
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: as well. So Bethard, who is a two to ten
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: record as a starter in his career, all of those
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: with San Francisco. He's down in his seventh NFL season
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: out of Iowa. Originally, let's see what happens with Bethard.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: He on the report this week.
• 15:58
  Speaker 6: Well, a lot of people say, ah, he's only two
• 16:00
  Speaker 6: and ten is a starter? Can't we do better than that? Well,
• 16:03
  Speaker 6: let me just tell you that those years in Samford,
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: that particular timeframe in San Francisco forty nine ers history,
• 16:10
  Speaker 6: they weren't very good. They were still trying to figure
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: some things out. But I like him. I think he's
• 16:15
  Speaker 6: got a little bit of the gunslinger mentality. He throws
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: the ball from different angles and.
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: Can do that.
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: He's not a guy that has to have a perfect
• 16:24
  Speaker 6: pocket where he's got to have a perfect motion. He
• 16:28
  Speaker 6: can deliver the ball different ways, and that I think
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: is good to have. And he's he's got some mobility,
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: and the mobility is not necessarily something where he's trying
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: to run down the field like Lamar Jackson. It's more
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: of escaping to create a little bit of time and
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: then maybe get a minimal game. But he's not a
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: guy that's going to run to the house and you know,
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: have a house call or anything like that.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: His grandfather, by the way, is Bobby Bethard Hall of
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Fame GM.
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: Bobby actually played a significant role when I was coming
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: out of college in my life my professional life because Bobby,
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: my dad had a friend that was a mutual friend
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: of Bobby Bethart, And so when I was coming out
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: of college and in the process of selecting an agent.
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: I had a list of agents that I was looking at,
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: and I actually had we had. My dad sent that
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: list to his friend, which was friends with Bobby, and said, hey,
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: what do you think of these agents? And Bobby gave
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: me input back which helped me select the agent that
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: I had, because I wanted to have some perspective from
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: the other side of the table, so to speak, and
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: Bobby was kind enough to offer that, which was which
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: was awesome.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Plenty ahead more from the head coach in a little
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: bit a lot going on this week. The Jaguars headed
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: to Cleveland to face the Browns in Week fourteen, and
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: we got to get into the Browns defense. Of course
• 17:48
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• 18:10
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• 18:15
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• 18:18
  Speaker 2: better when it's grown closer to home. J P Shadwick,
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Jeff Logman, our thanks to Doug Peterson in the opening
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: segment each and every Thursday. By the way, programming note,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Jaguars Happy Hour on Monday this coming week, December eleventh,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: will be live from Mister Chubby's Wings and Pana Vidra Beach.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: If you're in the Jacksonville area four to six pm,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: we will be there and we will be discussing the
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Jaguars Browns matchup.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna probably come and hang out with Joe. Is
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Joe gonna be there?
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: I think so. Tony BISSELLI will be there. Joe will
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: not be there. I'm told sources say Joe will not
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: be there. Okay, Hall of Famer Tony BISSELLI will be
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: there though. He's not that much of a draw, right,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: that's true. So come check us out. Yeah, four to six,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: come hang out. Wings great? Then you of course they
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: got wings.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: We are very fortunate that we get wings at halftime.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: Brought up to the broadcast booth at home games and
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: they have been fantastic. I'm a wing guy, are you?
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I like wings.
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: I like both of them too. There's a lot of
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: people that like the drumsticks or the flats.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I like both. I'm an equal opportunity wing guy.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: I used to be just straight drummies. Then I realized
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: that costs more, and then they do. Yeah, most places,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: if you just get only drums, yes, they charge you
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: like a dollar or two more. But then I realized
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: the flats you can tear apart and it's like two drums.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Well, it took me a lot to figure.
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: The great thing about the flat is that if you
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: remove one bone, then you just literally stick the whole
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: thing in your mouth and just pull everything right.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Off of it. That's right. Uh, the wing etiquette here is, well,
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: we're not yes.
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: By the way, I gotta I gotta bring this up
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: because I wanted to say congratulate relations to Evan Ingram
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: for getting his first touchdown of the season, by that way,
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: and I didn't want to go without mentioning that because
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: he is one of my favorite players, because this is
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: a guy that is totally unselfish, that does everything the
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: right way, that works his tail off in practice that
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: I think is one of the best free agent acquisitions
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: that this team has ever had, and I love his
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: commitment to winning, and it's been a while since he's
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: had a touchdown. You got to go back to the
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: playoff game against the Chargers here from back in January,
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: and I actually highlighted him with some TV stuff this
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: week because of how he plays the game. He blocks unselfishly.
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: If you go early in the ballgame, there was a
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: reverse play to Calvin Ridley, and who's leading out front,
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: Evan Ingram. You go to Etn's touchdown running the ball game,
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: who's leading away Evan Ingram. Later in the ball game,
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: another big run Evan Ingram. I mean, he's a guy
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: that's an excellent blocker in space. In today's NFL. This
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: is I don't want to say the prototypical tight end
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: because you'd always want to have somebody bigger, faster, stronger,
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: But he has got the speed.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: I mean that.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Touchdown when he turned the corner. But what I love
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: about that play where he scored on the touchdown, that
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: was him getting the favor returned because if you watch
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: that play, you'll see that there were two key blocks
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: on that for Evan to get it into the end zone.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: And I believe it was Calvin and I think it
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: was Zay and they both get very good blocks that
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: allows him to get to the outside and then his
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: speed ends up finishing the playoff. Congratulations to him.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: It was a great play.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: And it was about this time last year where he
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: had some monster games in December statistically and really was
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: hot for this team down the stretch. And maybe that's
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: the case to get it and it might have to
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: be No Christian Kirk. Evan Ingram's kind of that next guy,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: and you know the needs his production.
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: Well, and here's something else with Evan. First of all,
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: in that ball game, he had nine targets, nine catches.
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: I mean, that's fantastic. Yeah, okay, And so looking at
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: at his catch rate, which just give you another number here, okay, numbers.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: This is not PFF. This is just straight numbers. Great.
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: Evan Ingram has the highest catch rate of all of
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: the top twenty receivers in the National Football League. Because
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: Evan is top twenty in receptions. If you look at
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: all of those guys, all pass catchers, any positions, all
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: the top twenty pass catchers in the National Football League
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: as far as number of receptions, he leads them all
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: the top twenty in catch percentage. That's something that he
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: can be proud of because that means when they throw
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: on the ball, he catches it.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ninety one target, seventy three receptions this year. That's
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: an eighty point two percent catch rate. Fantastic, really is
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: We're back in a moment. We've got to get to
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: the Browns defense this week. They're number one in the
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: NFL and the Jaguars run defense, well, they were pretty
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: high going into last week's game, and they give up
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: the most yards they've given up all season. That's all
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• 23:33
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• 23:38
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• 23:44
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• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Shadwick, Jeff Logeman, Thanks to head coach Doug Peterson. In
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: the first segment, coming up, oh probably about ten minutes
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: or less, Charles Davis CBS Sports, the analyst has the
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: call and Iron Eagle this week the Jaguars of the Browns,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: and it's about I believe Charles's fifth Browns game this
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: year coming up, so we'll get some insight of what
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: they have to offer, certainly on the defensive side. That's
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: in just a little bit. And yes, this Browns defense
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: number one in the league in passing D and total D.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Good on third down. They've got great pass rushers and
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: they are the strength of this Browns team right now.
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: Obviously, well they are, and I mean if you look
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: at it, they've been surviving with a winning record with
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: multiple quarterbacks.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Which is rare.
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: Four have started and look at their record seven and
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: five and they lost the last two, so I mean
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: at one point they were what obviously seven and three,
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: But the last two games, their defense has been a
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: little bit off, and over the course of those two games,
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: they've given up sixty five points. They've given up nearly
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty yards rushing in each of those games,
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: and about three hundred and fifty yards of offense.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: I don't want to say it's.
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: A chink in their armor, and maybe there's a weakness,
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: but their play has been off for the last couple
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: of weeks and I expect them to be highly motivated
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: on their return home this week. So the Jaguars offense
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: will have a big challenge in their hands because the
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: last two games that they gave up all of that,
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: it was on the road at Denver and then on
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: the road at the La Rams. Yeah, so they yeah.
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: And here's here's the other thing. Miles Garrett's great player. Sure,
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: this past game, he didn't play very well and it
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: has been talked about amongst media and it's been reported
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: and players hear that they see that, but that Miles
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: Garrett did not record a stat of any kind in
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: the Rams game, not a tackle, not a pass defense,
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: not a sack, nothing. So you don't think that he's
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: gonna be motivated going against maybe a backup tackle, left
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: tackle with the Jaguars. Oh, he's gonna be ready. So
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: whoever's playing better strap it up. He's coming. Get ready.
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: Oh he's coming. Yeah, that's a big question too.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Obviously, some some injuries for the Jaguars, a lot of
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: injuries for the Jaguars. One of those that left tackle
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: again Walker Little. What happens on that side. You still
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: got a rookie right tackle though it is week fourteen
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: for him, So how does he hold up down the
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: stretch now in his rookie season.
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: Well, and Miles Garrett will move Okay, So Miles Garrett
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: will play. I think he's most comfortable probably on the
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: right side from watching how much how many snaps that
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: he gets over there.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Over the left tackle on the defensive right correct, got it.
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: And but he will be over on the left defensive side,
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: which would be against the right tackle, which is the
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: rookie Anton Harrison. So he's gonna move around, and they're
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: gonna move him around, and they try to move him
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: around because they try to keep the offense from get
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: getting a bead on him, because obviously you would like
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: to help out and chip or double him. And if
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: he's lining up consistently at the same spot, it's a
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: little bit easier for the offense to have things designed
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: to help stop him. If he's moving around a lot,
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: then it's difficult to be able to accomplish that. So
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: I expect Jim Schwartz to move him around throughout the
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: ball game to the left side and the right side,
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: facing both of the Jaguar tackles.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Does that point of Miles Garrett coming off a zero
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: stat game and able to move around an injury at
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: left tackle, a rookie at right tackle, go into the
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: decision to play Trevor Lawrence or not.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Does that all factor in as well just the matchup? No,
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: it does not.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: No, I think you don't need him running for his life.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: If he can't run for his life, right.
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: Well, you always going again. First of all, can the
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: player is the risk of further injury or making it worse?
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: You want to make sure that that's not there. Number
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: two and most importantly long term for the player. Three,
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: Can he protect himself? Can he still be athletic enough
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: to protect himself and to perform at a level that's
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: high enough to be capable of winning games?
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: And that's no matter who's on the other side.
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: That part exactly, you're not factoring in necessarily what the
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: opponents are doing, because you've got to have confidence in
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: your ability to scheme that kind of magnificent player, but
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: then also to make sure that scheming that player, but
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: then scheming the ability to get the ball out in
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: a fast fashion. So just like if you go back
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: and you watch Cincinnati's game plan against the Jaguars this
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: past Monday night, their scheme was to get their quarterback
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: Jake Browning, to get the ball out of his ants
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: fast early, established completions for confidence, and then establish the run.
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: And they did exactly that. So in a game, if
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: all of a sudden, if Trevor is going to play,
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: ball's gonna be coming out quick, just much like it
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: was in Norland Saints game on Thursday night. And then
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: try to establish the running game in a strong fashion
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: to take the pressure off of the passing attack.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: We're back in a moment with Charles Davis, CBS Sports.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: The analyst is on the call this week for the
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Jaguars and the Browns. Will get his thoughts on, of
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: course the quarterback injury situation, but also the loss of
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: wide receiver Christian Kirk.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: That is ahead.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: It is the Doug Peterson Show on Jaguars Radio.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues right now and.
• 29:35
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• 29:38
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• 29:41
  Speaker 4: J P.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Shadrick with you Lord Jeff Logman. Coming up in just
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: a little bit.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Charles Davis, the analyst for CBS Sports this week for
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: the Jaguars Browns matchup, and we discussed.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Plenty earlier in the week.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, the quarterback injury for the Jags, but also the
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: loss of wide receiver Christian Kirk.
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: First play in the games six yards? Did I read
• 30:01
  Speaker 7: it correctly? JP? Twelve straight games with a twenty plus
• 30:04
  Speaker 7: yard play for him? It seems right to me counting
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: Monday night. Yeah, that's what you lose, And you lose
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: that person that people look to in the huddle if
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: things are getting a little chaotic. It's not just a
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: quarterback helping calm things down. You got a Christian Kirk
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: like yo, yo, just throw it over here, Trevor, let
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: me calm this down for you. That's the part that
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: you lose, that big play waiting to happen, and also
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: that presence, that leadership that that you know that you
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: look to and everybody else goes okay. Well if he
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: says it's okay, then we're going to be all right.
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: Hated to see that first play of the game like
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: boom and already got the play that you were looking
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: for to get things going. But boy, that takes the
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: air out of it, doesn't it. And then to find out,
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: as you said, Corey Indrey gonna have to have surgery.
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: Hope he gets well really soon because he has fun
• 30:51
  Speaker 7: to watch, you know.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Carls.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Of course, the quarterback was banged up and he might
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: be the most flexible person I've ever seen in my life.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, if he's getting bent out like a pretzol
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: like that, and that's all that happens is the high ankle.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: He's done it twice now. Last year Detroit, the same
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: thing happened. He comes back in the game. This time
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: he does it and he's not ruled out this week yet.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: It's amazing.
• 31:14
  Speaker 7: We watched him leave and I ruled him out that night,
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: which I know better. I know better you don't do that,
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: but I did, like there's no way and he's not out.
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: I don't know if he's on the TV twelve method.
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: Tom Brady in the flexibility, but that's all Tom talked
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: about the second half of his career was pliability, flexibility.
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: Because you met him, JP, you were around Tom Brady.
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: When he walks into a room. He's tall, he's got stature,
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: he's got presence, all those words I've used before. But
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: he doesn't blow your way like he just came from
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: a big time, you know, hanging and banging in the
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: weight room, but Tom Brady rarely got hurt because of
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: the flexibility plied. But he was really into that. I
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: remember talking with him about it one time. You know,
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: it's sound like I'm name dropping him, not just it
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: was a regular production meeting him, okay, but he talked
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: about how much he believed in it and was staunch
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: that people who went about the other way were hurting himself.
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: You're just waiting to blow things up. I don't know
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: if Trevor Lawrence is in that camp, but it's apparent
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: he's doing some great flexibility work because of what you
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: talked about, the way he rolled and the idea that
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: he's not out. We had a game last week. It
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: was Denver Houston and Tank Dell, the terrific rookie, goes
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: inside to block Justin Simmons, the great safety, and he
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: cracks him and there's a goal one play. So there's
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: bodies all around and a couple of linemen rolled on
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: Tank and he got bet backwards and fractured as bibulum.
• 32:40
  Speaker 7: If they had told us out with Trevor Lawrence, would
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: you have been surprised? And it didn't happen that way,
• 32:46
  Speaker 7: So he's got a little bit of good luck in there.
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: But I do think you're onto something. I think he
• 32:51
  Speaker 7: does a great job in stretching how.
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  Speaker 2: Many times have you had the Browns this year? Their
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: defense looks great Statistically, they've been rolling through quarterbacks all
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: over the place, and is this a legitimate playoff team?
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Can they get to the finish line?
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: We're gonna find out what the quarterback situation. In their
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: four losses, the defense hasn't been nearly as formidable, but
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: some of that I attribute to how they've had to
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: play for their offense. Like the first time was when
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: they thought Deshaun Watson was going to play against Baltimore.
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: He got ruled out a couple hours before kickoff, and
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: Dorian Townson Robinson as a rookie, had taken most of
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: the snaps that week, but I don't think he was
• 33:27
  Speaker 7: convinced he was going to play. And I just had
• 33:29
  Speaker 7: this vision of them walking back in the locker room
• 33:32
  Speaker 7: seventeen You're up, what what you know? And I don't
• 33:37
  Speaker 7: mean that in a bad way. He's actually talked about
• 33:39
  Speaker 7: it about how his preparation got better from that point
• 33:42
  Speaker 7: on normal rookie things. I'm not even dinging him for
• 33:46
  Speaker 7: it because we all thought he was going to play.
• 33:48
  Speaker 7: Shaun Watson met with us that week. I even was
• 33:51
  Speaker 7: at the Friday practice and he jogs by me. It's like, dude,
• 33:54
  Speaker 7: didn't take any snaps. He goes, no, I'm good, I'll
• 33:56
  Speaker 7: see Sunday. So we all thought he was gonna play.
• 33:59
  Speaker 7: So I give him a little a little on that one.
• 34:01
  Speaker 7: But the Rams game is twenty to nineteen JP last
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: Sunday is twenty to nineteen in the fourth quarter. Now,
• 34:06
  Speaker 7: it looks bad at the end, but they hang in
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: there and they battle you like mad. But when the
• 34:12
  Speaker 7: offense can't totally click, you know what it's like. You
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: have extra possessions, extra opportunities. Even the best defenses in
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: the world have a hard time holding up to that.
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: And they've had some injuries. You know, Denzel Ward has
• 34:22
  Speaker 7: been out last two weeks. It's the corner Miles Garrett
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: hurt his shoulder in Denver, and I don't think he's
• 34:27
  Speaker 7: close to one hundred percent, but he's staying out there
• 34:29
  Speaker 7: because he's a tough guy. So we're just watching. Anthony
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: Walker to middle linebacker missed a couple of games and
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: came back because he got hurt in the last time
• 34:36
  Speaker 7: we saw him. I'm trying to count anytimes we've seen
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: the Browns. I think this might be the fifth coming
• 34:40
  Speaker 7: up we have lived in the anc North. We are
• 34:44
  Speaker 7: russ Belts, Rust Belts City Central right now.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: That is Charles Davis.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: The full conversation coming soon on the Official Jaguars Podcast
• 34:54
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• 34:57
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• 35:00
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• 35:18
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• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Part of that again on Countdown to Kickoff on the
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  Speaker 2: network this Sunday. That's a noon start for the one
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: o'clock kickoff time in Cleveland, and all right, the Jaguars
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: and the Browns quarterback questions for both teams.
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  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence again if you just joined us, was on
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: the practice field today limited coming off a high ankle spraying.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: He wasn't right bootleg plays or anything in the open period,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: but he's out there doing something, which is pretty remarkable.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Considering the scene on Monday.
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: Night, I was expecting to see him either in a
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: boot or some kind of like casted type of tape job.
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: But it wasn't either, which is very surprising and very encouraging.
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: But we'll see, we'll see. Time will tell CJ.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: Beth as well. Yes, by the way, Charles Davis Yess.
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: Is tremendous and and I actually watched the Houston game
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: that he called last week, and I believe he was
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: with Iron with Iron Eagle, which I and I've known
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: for a long time. He was in New York when
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: I was up there. And both of them top top
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: of the heap class of people, I mean, great people,
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: both of them.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Love them besides the Tennessee Volunteer thing. We won't hold
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: that that's okay, that nobody's perfect. Just tell people. I mean, look,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: we encourage everybody listened to the radio broadcast. Okay, but
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: those two guys do a really good job with the
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: TV broadcast.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: Really good job, no doubt about that.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Questions. Of course, we mentioned CJ. Bethett on the report
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: as well, with the shoulder left shoulder injury, non throwing
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: shoulder that he suffered when he fell on the first
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: play that he came in on Monday night.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: So we'll keep an eye on that moving ahead.
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: So just along the lines of the quarterback Okay, hypothetically
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: speaking here, Okay, Trevor plays, Okay, then you've got my
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: guess would be you would also have a practice squad
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: elevation with Nathan Rourke.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: So here's how that could go. Right.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Remember on the Thursday night week they actually signed Nathan
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Rourke to the roster on the fifty three and made
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: him the emergency quarterback.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: That is the designation.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: If you're going to have the emergency third quarterback, it
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: has to be from a man on the fifty three
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: man roster. Then they waved him cleared waivers signed him
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: back to the practice squad exactly. I would think if
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: that's the case again, then you would think Trevor would be.
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: Up right, Okay, So if he's signed to the active roster,
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: then he's going to be the third yes, okay, So
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: then you would probably expect that Trevor is going to play.
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: You'd also have to make a move to put him
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: on the fifty three and get something up maybe Christian Kirk. Well,
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: Christian Kirk looks like headed for surgery, so that would
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: be a roster spot that you could gain right there.
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: If Nathan Rourke is a standard practice squad elevation, then
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: more than likely Trevor would be inactive.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: Correct. That's my feeling of it exactly.
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: And the reason for that is that the third quarterback,
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: which would have an exemption on game day, has to
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: be on the active roster. He can't be just a
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: practice squad elevation to be that third quarterback. He has
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: to be on the active fifty three, like what you
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: were talking about, So he would have to be brought
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: up to the active roster. But again, if he's a
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: practice squad elevation, then that would mean that there's if
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: Trevor were active and he's a practice squad elevation, you're
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: losing a roster spot somewhere.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you couldn't you use him as an emergency
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: third quarterback?
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: See, I still have it act. I still think that.
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: And see that's a.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Great question because you have to be to be the
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: emergency third if both guys get hurt, to be the
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: emergency third quarterback, you have to be on the fifteenth.
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: But the emergency third quarterback doesn't count against your roster
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: spot on game day, that's right. But if he's a
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: practice squad elevation and you're not keeping an extra guy active,
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: could you still have him as the third quarterback? But
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: it wouldn't be an emergency quarterback.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Isn't worth losing that roster spot on game day for
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: a guy who might not play.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Most coaches would say no. So at that point, if
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: it's a game, if it's.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Because there's special teams value there, it's the standard elevation,
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: you would think Trevor's out correct. But we'll see, We'll
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: see what happens on s We'll see. I think they're
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: gonna take it all the way down to the wire.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: That's my gut.
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: It well, yeah, it probably will go to a game
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: time decision. And this is this is a very important decision. Again,
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: we talked about how and what's going to go into
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: this factoring in whether he plays or not.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Number one is can he play? Can he do it?
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: Number two?
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: Is there any risk of long term injury or sustaining
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: or making it worse for a longer period of time.
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: Can he protect himself?
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: Can he perform?
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: All of those things are part of the equation and
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: trying to determine whether or not he's going to play.
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: And this is a process that will involve a lot
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: of people. It will evolve Trevor most importantly. I'm sure
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: his agent would have a say in a quiet manner,
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: not involved in the room, Okay, Jeff Ferguson, the head
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: of the medical team, doctor Kevin Kaplan, the coach, the
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: position coach, and the owner, the owners. I mean this
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: is that's I mean, this is one of those decisions
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: where you want to get it right and everybody on
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: the same page, absolutely try to get it. It's got
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: to be a consensus on the same paid decision. And
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: the most important opinion of all.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Trevor's.
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: He's the one that's feeling it his body and he's
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: got he's got to be the one that's going to
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: deal with it or not deal with it.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: We've talked about this before.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't it be cool if he just ran out of
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: the tunnel on Sunday like Brunel and nobody didn't tell anybody,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: and there he is.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: He's starting against Cleveland. That'd be cool.
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: Well, he'd be cool. But as long as he can
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: play well.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: You guys used that same line on Thursday night last
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: week or whenever they played in New Orleans. Wouldn't it
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: be cool if he ran out and he did he played, Yeah,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: he did, so who knows. And he played well, He
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: played very His offensive line played very well. If he's
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: the leading rusher this week, now that's saying so, yeah, I.
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: Don't want to have that happens. That's not let's not
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: get care of it.
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• 42:13
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• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Lie.
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: Have you seen the forecast for Cleveland?
• 42:57
  Speaker 7: Ye?
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: Cold and wet. Welcome to Cleve.
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: All right, I'm pulling it up right now because Cleveland
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: this time of year can be not so pretty. On
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: The forecast right now says rain likely much cooler, with
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: highs in the lower forties, temperature falling into the upper
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: thirties in the afternoon. Chance of rain seventy percent, and
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: then those rain showers likely turning to snow showers in
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: the evening.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Get the hell out of town. That's what you guys
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: are gonna do. It'll win and get out of there. Logs,
• 43:28
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• 43:29
  Speaker 3: You got it. Jeff Logoman out of here.
• 43:30
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