Latest / Lamp and Light Bible Reading Plan / October 22, 2026 - 1 Samuel 17 & Proverbs 19:25-29
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- 0:01SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the Lamp and Light Bible Reading Plan, where you are seeking to love the Lord our God with all of our heart, soul, mind, and strength, with God's word letting the way.
- 0:09SPEAKER_00: I'm Josiah Smith, joined by Tyler Sanborn.
- 0:12SPEAKER_00: Today is Thursday, October 22nd, 2026.
- 0:25SPEAKER_00: Here's a quick summary of 1 Samuel 17.
- 0:28SPEAKER_00: 1 Samuel 17 details the famous story of David and Goliath.
- 0:35SPEAKER_00: Now, this is a story of Israel in battle against the Philistines.
- 0:40SPEAKER_00: And at this point, Israel was encamped in the valley of Elah, and for 40 days, Goliath had been mocking the name of God and ultimately the God of Israel.
- 0:55SPEAKER_00: And there were people that were asked, or there was conversations going on about who would fight and stand against Goliath, this giant, this mighty warrior, and no one was brave enough to step forward.
- 1:11SPEAKER_00: That is, until the youngest son of Jesse, David, stepped forward with nothing, but of course, you know the story: a staff, a sling, and ultimately defeated the giant Goliath and vindicated the glory of God there in that valley.
- 1:29SPEAKER_00: And the Philistines were sent running.
- 1:31SPEAKER_00: So 1 Samuel 17 is all about the story of the glory of God on full display, taking a young shepherd boy, David, and allowing him to have victory over a mighty warrior like Goliath to showcase the power of God and the glory of God, uh, vindicating Israel, giving them victory over the Philistines.
- 1:54SPEAKER_01: Listen intently to God's written word.
- 1:57SPEAKER_01: Proverbs 19, verses 25 through 29.
- 2:01SPEAKER_01: Strike a scoffer, and the simple will learn prudence.
- 2:05SPEAKER_01: Reprove a man of understanding, and he will gain knowledge.
- 2:10SPEAKER_01: He who does violence to his father and chases away his mother is a son who brings shame and reproach.
- 2:17SPEAKER_01: Cease to hear instruction, my son, and you will stray from the words of knowledge.
- 2:23SPEAKER_01: A worthless witness mocks at justice, and the mouth of the wicked devours iniquity.
- 2:29SPEAKER_01: Condemnation is ready for scoffers and beating for the backs of fools.
- 2:36SPEAKER_00: Well, it is good to be back on the podcast today.
- 2:40SPEAKER_00: After some time away, thank you, Tyler, for holding down the fort and for doing a great job and continuing the podcast and the daily readings and the commentary while I was away.
- 2:50SPEAKER_00: I was in Ohio with my family.
- 2:53SPEAKER_00: My youngest sister-in-law on McKenzie's side of the family was uh getting married, or did get married, I suppose.
- 3:03SPEAKER_00: At this point, she's married now.
- 3:05SPEAKER_00: And we uh were there to celebrate.
- 3:07SPEAKER_00: And I had the great privilege of officiating that wedding uh to her and her now husband, and a great day of celebration.
- 3:15SPEAKER_00: That was this past Sunday, but uh we were also able just to spend some good time with her family and see some friends in Ohio.
- 3:23SPEAKER_00: We lived there for about seven years total, I think, uh, before we moved here to Idaho.
- 3:30SPEAKER_00: So just a great time together, and uh, it's good to be back.
- 3:34SPEAKER_00: I'm excited to be back on the podcast today.
- 3:37SPEAKER_00: We got a lot of things to discuss, and today is the first day of the men's retreat as well.
- 3:42SPEAKER_00: So a lot of things going on today.
- 3:44SPEAKER_00: Uh, but so we had a question come in while I was away, and we were saving that for when both of us could be back to address it.
- 3:52SPEAKER_00: But a question came in through our app, just a reminder that is available on the app store, both on iPhone and on Android.
- 4:00SPEAKER_00: And you can do things like submit questions for an individual verse or more theologically related questions like today's is.
- 4:07SPEAKER_00: So let me read the question and then we will dive into doing the best that we can and answering it.
- 4:12SPEAKER_00: It says, I hear people often say God can't be in the presence of sin, but scripture says otherwise.
- 4:20SPEAKER_00: Adam and Eve, after they sinned, Job, Jesus eating with tax collectors as examples.
- 4:26SPEAKER_00: If he can be in the presence of sin, then why did he kick Adam and Eve out of the garden?
- 4:31SPEAKER_00: What is the whole point of kicking them out and humanity needing a savior to be redeemed to him?
- 4:36SPEAKER_00: Part two of this question is that is God present in hell?
- 4:40SPEAKER_00: He created it and is present everywhere as one of his traits.
- 4:45SPEAKER_00: Are you just separated from his grace in hell?
- 4:49SPEAKER_00: Now, a lot of things going on here, but one of the things I want to say first is that the biblical instincts of the person that wrote in this question are very uh distinct, very acute, maybe I should say.
- 5:01SPEAKER_00: Uh, even starting here, I hear people often say God can't be in the presence of sin, but scripture says otherwise.
- 5:06SPEAKER_00: And in fact, I would agree with that.
- 5:08SPEAKER_00: We do see these examples.
- 5:10SPEAKER_00: It's not that God suddenly uh was miles and miles and miles away, if that as if that was a possibility from Adam and Eve in the garden, but rather he spoke to them, right?
- 5:19SPEAKER_00: He he speaks to Adam after they eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil after they had sinned.
- 5:26SPEAKER_00: That God speaks to them, God graciously provides the the skins of the animals for them.
- 5:31SPEAKER_00: Uh, Job, of course, we see Satan kind of entering into the throne room, or at least there's that picture there in the book of Job asking if he can tempt his servant Job because uh he thinks that Job only worships God because of all the good things that God has given him.
- 5:49SPEAKER_00: And of course, God gives uh Satan permission in Leeway to do just that.
- 5:54SPEAKER_00: And uh, we see other examples, right, that are mentioned here.
- 5:56SPEAKER_00: So some good biblical instincts there.
- 5:58SPEAKER_00: But then the question is okay, if if God can be in some sense in the presence of sinners, then why did he have to kick Adam and Eve out of the garden?
- 6:07SPEAKER_00: Now, this question, I think, is confusing some categories.
- 6:10SPEAKER_00: So while it may be true that God can, in some sense, be in the presence of sinners, think of uh just even the spirit-indwelling Christians, born-again believers, we nevertheless still sin.
- 6:22SPEAKER_00: We have the propensity and capacity to sin.
- 6:25SPEAKER_00: We perhaps do give in to our flesh, and that doesn't mean that the spirit uh is kind of coming and going from us in those moments of sin.
- 6:33SPEAKER_00: No, the spirit indwells us permanently.
- 6:35SPEAKER_00: We are sealed.
- 6:36SPEAKER_00: Paul says in Ephesians 1 that he is the guarantee of our inheritance.
- 6:40SPEAKER_00: And so uh if that's the case, if the if if God is omnipresent and can be in the presence of sin in some sense, then why kick Adam and Eve out of the garden?
- 6:49SPEAKER_00: Well, I think because categorically, what God was doing and what that was showcasing, really the garden as a whole represented unhindered fellowship between man and God.
- 7:01SPEAKER_00: It was uh a utopia in that sense, and there was nothing, there was no barriers, there was no obstacles, and of course, there was no sin up before uh Adam and Eve decided to rebel and eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
- 7:17SPEAKER_00: So God kicked them out, not because he couldn't be in the presence of sin, at least in the way that we often think of it, but because of the reality of the separation that sin creates, the disruption of fellowship that happens between God and man as a result of sin, and the punishment and penalty that needs to be dealt with, and the justice that needs to be enacted by God to take care of sin, to make sure that that sin isn't just swept under the rug, God's not just patting Adam on the back and saying, no big deal, not a problem.
- 7:53SPEAKER_00: No sin needs to be dealt with.
- 7:56SPEAKER_00: So when you think about God kicking Adam and Eve out of the garden, or you think about the need for a redeemer and savior on behalf of humanity, like the question asks and poses, you got to think about God's justice.
- 8:10SPEAKER_00: Think about God as the judge of the universe, which is how the Bible describes him, and think about how God, as a good and just and right judge, to be a good judge, he must uh he must administer justice fairly, he must deal with injustices rightly, and sin ultimately must be dealt with uh in that sense.
- 8:34SPEAKER_00: So when God kicks them out of the garden, of course, that is representative of humanity as a whole being separated, severed from that perfect fellowship relationally uh from God that we once and Adam enjoyed, and now, of course, because of sin has been severed, and the need there for Christ to restore that fellowship, that perfect union that Adam and Eve once enjoyed, that we will one day enjoy in perfection and glory with Christ.
- 9:04SPEAKER_00: And so that is why he kicks them out of the garden.
- 9:07SPEAKER_00: Again, it's representative of a kind of state that humanity was once in, that they fell from because of their sin.
- 9:14SPEAKER_00: It shows the justice of God, it shows that God must, in fact, deal with sin and it sets the trajectory for the rest of the storyline of scripture.
- 9:24SPEAKER_00: Now, the second part of this question is God present in hell?
- 9:27SPEAKER_00: He created it and is present everywhere as one as one of his traits.
- 9:32SPEAKER_00: Are you just separated from his grace in hell?
- 9:34SPEAKER_00: Again, this gets to another great question.
- 9:36SPEAKER_00: One of the defining attributes of God as God is his omnipresence, that he is everywhere present, that his presence extends to all places for all time.
- 9:47SPEAKER_00: So, uh, if that is true, is that true of hell?
- 9:51SPEAKER_00: A lot of times hell is defined as the absence of God's presence.
- 9:55SPEAKER_00: And in one sense, that's somewhat true if you define that correctly.
- 10:00SPEAKER_00: But in another sense, of course, God's omnipresence does extend to hell.
- 10:06SPEAKER_00: But the devastating reality of that truth is that while his presence may extend to hell, it is not his presence, you could say, of blessing or uh of provision or any of those things.
- 10:22SPEAKER_00: It's his presence purely of his justice, of his wrath, uh, of his vengeance, even that people are experiencing in hell.
- 10:30SPEAKER_00: So uh it's not that he's aloof or that his his omnipresence kind of cut off a quadrant uh the of hell and everywhere else he's present, but not there.
- 10:40SPEAKER_00: But rather, it's that his his presence that we experience in Christ of blessing at your right hand, there are pleasures forevermore, uh, of mercy and grace and favor and kindness and all those things.
- 10:52SPEAKER_00: They don't, people in hell do not experience that.
- 10:56SPEAKER_00: They experience the full justice and wrath of God, which is what Paul says, by the way, in Colossians, this the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience in which you yourselves once were.
- 11:09SPEAKER_00: And so hell, again, is not fully the absence of God.
- 11:14SPEAKER_00: It's the absence of his favor, of his mercy, of his of his grace, of his kindness.
- 11:20SPEAKER_00: Uh, and it is the presence, if you will, of his wrath that is coming, as Paul says, upon the sons of disobedience to those who do not trust in Christ.
- 11:30SPEAKER_00: So some great questions here.
- 11:31SPEAKER_00: Hopefully, that's a helpful answer uh to some really big questions.
- 11:35SPEAKER_00: God kicked them out of the garden to showcase that there is a separation.
- 11:39SPEAKER_00: There's something now that keeps that perfect fellowship that man once enjoyed, that that severs that uh that that separation, you know, your iniquity have created a separation between you and your God, Isaiah says, and God has to fix that um separation by sending his son Jesus Christ to die on the cross to pay for our sins so that he is a just judge.
- 12:02SPEAKER_00: He is the just and the justifier, as uh Romans talks about.
- 12:07SPEAKER_00: I think that's Romans 3.
- 12:09SPEAKER_00: So, anyways, that's a quick question there, or quick answer rather to the question that came in.
- 12:14SPEAKER_00: Now, Tyler, talk to us a little bit about 1 Samuel 17.
- 12:17SPEAKER_00: What's going on there?
- 12:18SPEAKER_00: What were you encouraged by by this famous, somewhat infamous story of David and Goliath?
- 12:24SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I I love the the core of of this chapter.
- 12:28SPEAKER_01: It's it's David's heart for the Lord and his desire for his God to be glorified and honored.
- 12:35SPEAKER_01: And when any any enemy or foe goes against that or wouldn't give what is rightly due to God, uh they deserve they deserve justice.
- 12:45SPEAKER_01: They they deserve to be uh to be dealt with accordingly.
- 12:48SPEAKER_01: And we we see the the credit that David gives to the Lord when when Saul is doubting, like, ah, you're you're just too young, you're just not enough.
- 12:58SPEAKER_01: He says, It's the Lord who delivered me from the paw of the lion and from the paw of the bear, and will deliver me from the hand of this Philistine.
- 13:07SPEAKER_01: So there's no enemy that can stand up against the Lord.
- 13:09SPEAKER_01: And if if God is for David, David is is not gonna lose because he's defending the honor and glory of his God.
- 13:18SPEAKER_01: And I love the the heart and the the courage that that God gives him.
- 13:23SPEAKER_01: And as we think back to the previous chapters, the spirit of God is with David and it didn't depart from him for his entire life.
- 13:30SPEAKER_01: And so this is just putting God on display in a way that only only he can do.
- 13:36SPEAKER_01: He's gonna be the one who seemingly accomplishes the impossible, a tiny shepherd boy compared to this nine-foot behemoth champion uh of Goliath.
- 13:46SPEAKER_01: And the the encouragement for me today is that uh who is it or what is it that we should fear if the Lord is for us?
- 13:55SPEAKER_01: We have the Spirit of God dwelling within us.
- 13:59SPEAKER_01: We we have no need to fear.
- 14:01SPEAKER_01: Even if trial does come our way, if if uh persecution does come our way, if if harassment uh and that and the different sufferings that life can bring, um, we don't need to be afraid.
- 14:14SPEAKER_01: We don't need to look to anyone or anything in in fear, but we need to keep God fixed and focused uh in our sights and and consider the way that He's been faithful, the way that He's been providing for us, and the way that He secures a future inheritance for us, as you're saying, by the blood of Jesus Christ through the gospel.
- 14:34SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
- 14:35SPEAKER_00: Now, as we transition here to Proverbs, Proverbs 19, finishing up this chapter, we see another verse, a couple verses actually, of instruction and the necessary reality of instruction, and what instruction and discipline reproof correction is intended to produce in the lives of those who are hearing it and hopefully heeding it.
- 14:56SPEAKER_00: So, starting here in verse 25, it says, strike a scoffer, uh, someone who is not thought of positively in the Proverbs, or really in uh Psalm 1, I think of, but strike a scoffer, and the simple will learn prudence.
- 15:11SPEAKER_00: They'll learn something, they'll they'll grow in a in a very positive way, prudence, which is again talked about in Proverbs 1.
- 15:17SPEAKER_00: Uh, but then here it says, Reprove a man of understanding, and he will gain a knowledge.
- 15:22SPEAKER_00: So instruction, reproof, correction, they are intended to produce something good to those who heed them.
- 15:29SPEAKER_00: Now, here's the warning in verse 27 that really parallels this cease to hear instruction, my son, if that's what you're gonna do.
- 15:37SPEAKER_00: If you're not gonna listen, if you're not gonna hear the warning, if you're not gonna um you know heed the instructions and the wisdom that that you are uh being given, says you will stray from the words of knowledge.
- 15:49SPEAKER_00: So reprove a man of understanding and he will gain knowledge.
- 15:52SPEAKER_00: But if you cease to hear instructions, my son, you will stray from the words of knowledge.
- 15:56SPEAKER_00: You're gonna, in a sense, decrease in knowledge, you're gonna increase in folly.
- 16:01SPEAKER_00: And that's the the reality of those who will not heed instructions that do not listen to wisdom, that do not listen to perhaps correction.
- 16:13SPEAKER_00: We've seen that again and again.
- 16:15SPEAKER_00: One of the biggest themes I think we've seen in Proverbs is the reality of those who listen and humble themselves when corrected, and those who don't, and the two sort of bifurcated realities of one path that leads to blessing and an increase of knowledge of wisdom that's rooted in the fear of the Lord, and another path that leads to greater folly that leads to diminishing, uh straying from the words of knowledge that we see here in Proverbs 19.
- 16:42SPEAKER_00: So just huge, huge theme that we've seen again and again in Proverbs.
- 16:46SPEAKER_00: We need to listen, we need to be corrected by God's word, we need to believe what Hebrews 4.12 says that the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of our hearts, and be molded, shaped, and really matured by the reality of heeding the words of God, growing in our humility before God and seeing uh knowledge gained as a result of that, and the opposite being true that we will stray from the words of knowledge if we refuse to hear instructions and he correction along the way.
- 17:23SPEAKER_01: In our final two verses in our section today, in Proverbs 19, I'm looking to uh the attitude and words of Goliath and how he's scoffing and mocking and speaking poorly and disrespecting the God uh of Israel, and in connecting that to uh verse 29, the condemnation is ready for scoffers and beating, ready for the backs of fools.
- 17:46SPEAKER_01: And it it comes to mind as we think about what it is that we are are looking to, what we're finding our hope in.
- 17:53SPEAKER_01: And when we look to a proud man or someone who's looking down and disrespecting, have no regard for the rules uh and in the words of God, ultimately their end is destruction, it's condemnate condemnation and judgment.
- 18:10SPEAKER_01: And for for those who are seeking to figure out this life in and of their own strength and their own wisdom, there's just hardship.
- 18:18SPEAKER_01: There's there's a struggle, there's beating for the backs of people who are are going to go about this life in a way that is uh void of God and his wisdom, his instruction and and guidance.
- 18:29SPEAKER_01: And a worthless witness, we just look to the uh the value, the high price and worth that God puts on truth.
- 18:37SPEAKER_01: He is the source of all truth and wisdom.
- 18:39SPEAKER_01: A worthless witness mocks at justice, and the mouth of the wicked devours iniquity.
- 18:45SPEAKER_01: There's no respect for laws, and there's an undermining of truth.
- 18:51SPEAKER_01: And in a very real sense, a person who is mocking at justice, who is is someone who is not telling the truth in front of a judge or a justice, it could very well mean death for for the parties related.
- 19:06SPEAKER_01: If you're going to intentionally uh lie and give a false witness in in the in a legal uh court, ultimately you could be putting someone in a very dangerous place.
- 19:18SPEAKER_01: Uh, and that is looking at the the lives of of people that are are on the line here.
- 19:24SPEAKER_01: If if you're giving a false witness to saying someone did something that they didn't, it could put them in a position they're they're receiving the death penalty at the very extreme um sense of that.
- 19:35SPEAKER_01: So in a way, we look at the worthless witness, they're really mocking justice, and ultimately at the very uh far end of the pendulum swing, they're not valuing valuing uh the lives of people created in God's image.
- 19:49SPEAKER_01: They they're looking to their own interests, they're looking to to maybe get out of the situation or put save a friend or or put ultimately putting their needs and their wants uh above all others.
- 20:02SPEAKER_01: So the the mouth of the wicked devours iniquity.
- 20:05SPEAKER_01: Um we we look at the the the things that come out of our mouths that the ultimately are a result of the overflow of our hearts, and we have to take that into consideration.
- 20:15SPEAKER_01: If the the person who is wicked, they just want more and more and more.
- 20:20SPEAKER_01: There's an insatiated hunger uh for for iniquity, and they are just gonna keep going and going and going, and they keep devouring it.
- 20:29SPEAKER_01: And uh the more that we uh travel down this path, the more difficult it is for us uh to see the the light and the truth of God that would show us the the wickedness.
- 20:41SPEAKER_01: Um so for mankind that we see in the world today, uh we see these evidences all the time.
- 20:47SPEAKER_01: We look to the news, we see people going and giving um people giving over to their sin and a great caution and um uh a warning for us to consider the the thoughts that we have, the words that we're speaking, and and what it is that we're pursuing and what the words of our mouth are accomplishing.
- 21:07SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
- 21:08SPEAKER_00: Well, thank you so much for joining us today on the Lamp and Light Bob Reading Podcast.
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