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Ashton Kutcher, Gwyneth’s Future and Brad Pitt’s Skin with Meredith Lynch · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: Christmas shopping has already started in our house. My daughter
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  Speaker 1: is so organised, already planning Christmas gifts from Macaulay. Hair
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  Speaker 1: care for her aunt and a fab fragrance for her bestie.
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  Speaker 1: But the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I'm
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  Speaker 1: an early bird, buying one present a week from now
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  Speaker 1: till Christmas, which makes budgeting less stressful. I can buy
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  Speaker 3: Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I'm back from my
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  Speaker 2: fun Cabo trip. I'm here in person with Meredith Lynch.
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  Speaker 2: I've spoken about you. Welcome to Juicy Scoop, girl.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you. I'm so happy to be here.
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  Speaker 2: I found you on TikTok, then followed you on Instagram,
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  Speaker 2: and then we started DMing each other because of a
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  Speaker 2: certain former housewife that was coming after your journalistic Citizen journalism.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what she calls it. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Which I love. And that's why I love TikTok. And
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  Speaker 2: so actually, I was just asking you, what do you
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  Speaker 2: think about the whole TikTok hearings happening?
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  Speaker 3: I think that it's like winding down. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: that's going to happen. I think that it's like if
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  Speaker 3: we're going to do that about social media, it has
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  Speaker 3: to be across the board. They're like, oh, what will
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  Speaker 3: happen if an eight year old goes on TikTok? Well, like,
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  Speaker 3: should an eight year old have a cell phone?
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  Speaker 2: But I also feel like these people doing it, as
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  Speaker 2: someone that's my age, that, like, really has enjoyed TikTok
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  Speaker 2: for a lot of reasons, when I mention it to
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  Speaker 2: somebody who's not on it and using it as a
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  Speaker 2: regular app, they always are, like, thinking I'm watching, like,
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  Speaker 2: teenagers dance.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, that's not what it is.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And, like, and I actually saw Brittany Furlan do this
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  Speaker 2: in defense of TikTok versus Instagram. She goes, you know, like,
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  Speaker 2: Instagram is... if your phone's there and you're talking about
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  Speaker 2: trying to find a wide-legged jean, you're going to open
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  Speaker 2: up Instagram and you're going to see all these ads
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  Speaker 2: for wide-legged jeans. TikTok doesn't even work that, their whole
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  Speaker 2: fear of like that, that actually doesn't work. This is her,
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  Speaker 2: this has come after me, I'm just saying. But what
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  Speaker 2: it does do is if you watch certain types of videos,
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  Speaker 2: then more of that will come in your For You page.
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  Speaker 2: So if you're really interested in the Ukraine war, you're
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  Speaker 2: going to see more and more on that. And what
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  Speaker 2: I like about that is One time I took my
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  Speaker 2: son's phone away.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then my phone was like dead or something. So
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  Speaker 2: we have the same code. So I go and I go,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to look at what's on his 40 page.
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  Speaker 2: And my heart was beating. I didn't know what I
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  Speaker 2: was going to see.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know I was going to see, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of like booty flapping. I didn't know if
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  Speaker 2: I was going to see scary dark shit. Like I
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  Speaker 2: didn't know what I was going to see. And I
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  Speaker 2: was so happy. It was like either funny, like teenage
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  Speaker 2: prank kids doing not bad stuff. Right. But then like
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  Speaker 2: a lot of really great like old history lessons and
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  Speaker 2: like new stuff.
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  Speaker 3: He's like so half Peter, half Heather.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. But he was like, so it was like, he'll
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  Speaker 2: be saying to me like, mom, do you know who
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  Speaker 2: this person is? I'm like, no. And he goes, well,
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  Speaker 2: she survived a plane crash in 1996 and she was
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  Speaker 2: the only person and she was 12 and dah, dah, dah, dah.
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  Speaker 2: And it happened in Yemen. And like, I'm like, and
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  Speaker 2: so I'm just like, I don't think.
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  Speaker 3: But how old is he?
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  Speaker 2: He's 17, but he's been enjoying it, you know, for
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  Speaker 2: like two, three years.
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  Speaker 3: And that's fine. That's an appropriate age. He can handle it.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's a big part of it is like
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  Speaker 3: how much of the decisions that you make are like,
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  Speaker 3: you're like, okay, my kid's ready to do that.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: My kid's not. Yeah. So like, it's really up to
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  Speaker 3: a parent. Right. Like you couldn't go see an NC
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  Speaker 3: 17 movie when you were 12, like unless a parent
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  Speaker 3: took you. Right. Yeah. And that's on a parent's, like
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  Speaker 3: some of it really lies with the house.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: What, what you think works for your kid. Totally.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, hopefully it won't happen because I do really
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  Speaker 2: enjoy it. And I agree. I don't think it's their
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  Speaker 2: place to do it. And I don't think some of
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  Speaker 2: these people questioning know what the hell they're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: But what I do want to talk about is that
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  Speaker 2: Britney Spears was in Cabo when I was there.
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  Speaker 5: God.
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  Speaker 2: She was at the Los Ventanos.
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  Speaker 3: So you're in the same hotel?
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 2: We were at Chileno Bay Resort, which I highly recommend.
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  Speaker 2: I've never been there. I absolutely love it. I want
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  Speaker 2: to say I did not get any deal.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: I paid every cent, but I posted a lot.
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  Speaker 3: So if there's any other.
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  Speaker 2: Resort that would like a Heather McDowell review and you
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  Speaker 2: might want to, you know, throw in a cocktail or something,
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  Speaker 2: I'd be happy to do the same for you.
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  Speaker 3: It looked beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: But what I like about where we stayed, it's the
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  Speaker 2: one place that I've been aware of in Mexico that
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  Speaker 2: you can really like go right in and snorkel. Oh, nice.
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  Speaker 2: Because it's not like Hawaii.
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  Speaker 3: Where it's like... Yeah, the water is like... Because the
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  Speaker 3: water is really rough in Cabo sometimes, right? Usually it is. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And so it's like a lot of beautiful resorts where
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  Speaker 2: you're looking over the water or you can watch the beach,
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  Speaker 2: but they like recommend you don't swim on it. There's
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  Speaker 2: nobody boogie boarding. At least near the big resorts. Right.
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  Speaker 2: So this resort, Las Ventanas, is about an eight minute
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  Speaker 2: drive from us.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And she was there and she was there spinning around
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  Speaker 2: and dancing and everything and... And there was a couple things.
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  Speaker 2: She was with this guy named Cade Hudson.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. Who's he?
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  Speaker 2: So, I'm glad you asked. So, I met him once
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  Speaker 2: at Craig's, where I meet everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And pretty sure he's an out gay man.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: He worked at CAA. He represented all these people. But
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  Speaker 2: he got in trouble when this one heterosexual actor came
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  Speaker 2: forward in which he denied saying that Cade was gay.
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  Speaker 2: soliciting him for sex and parts and all this. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: He denied it. Anyway, he is now her manager.
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  Speaker 5: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: And he went on the, and I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: he's still at CAA or what. Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And he went on the trip with her.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Not Sam. Oh. Sam was not there.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And so people were wondering about it.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, so my question is, what is
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  Speaker 2: he managing her? Managing the sheen outfits that she buys
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  Speaker 2: and then spins.
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  Speaker 3: Around in them? I mean, she's not working, right?
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  Speaker 2: She's not working.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Now, granted, I'm glad she wasn't alone.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: He seems like a fun guy.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, I'm pretty sure he's gay, allegedly.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Which makes it safer that she's with him.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And they're spinning around and having fun. But I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: why is he now? Because she had this other manager. Right. Rodolf?
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  Speaker 3: Rodolf?
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, forgot his name.
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  Speaker 3: He stepped down in 2021. Right.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, I just don't even want to be a
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  Speaker 2: part of this. I wish her luck.
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  Speaker 3: Good luck.
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  Speaker 2: Get out of the conservatory. So now this guy claims
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  Speaker 2: he's the manager. And I'm like, well, what are you again?
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  Speaker 3: But how does a manager make money? Don't you make
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  Speaker 3: money based off the percentage that your like client make? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't think he's making any money. I think
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  Speaker 2: he just enjoyed the free trip.
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  Speaker 3: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: And but I think for the same reason Sam didn't go,
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  Speaker 2: I think this all gets old. For the husband, for
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  Speaker 2: the best friend, for the assistant, for the quote unquote manager.
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  Speaker 2: You think it's so great to order a margarita and
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  Speaker 2: be in a beautiful beach setting.
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  Speaker 3: But like.
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  Speaker 2: If all you're doing is like hanging out with this
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  Speaker 2: person who's spinning around in a $ 12 dress.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how fun that can be for the
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  Speaker 2: rest of your life.
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  Speaker 3: And how are you going to make any money? Like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, at the end of the day, that's your job, right?
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  Speaker 3: You're her manager. How are you going to make any money?
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  Speaker 3: Unless it just sort of you're like, OK, I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to manage her for like six months. And then people
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  Speaker 3: are going to be like, oh my God, he managed
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  Speaker 3: Britney for a little while. It'll give you a niche
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  Speaker 3: or then you get a reality show or then you
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  Speaker 3: get a podcast. And like, wouldn't, if you were her,
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  Speaker 3: be super careful or Sam be super careful.
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  Speaker 2: I think that he's just like, I think Sam won't
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  Speaker 2: know the week off. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Fair enough.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's like, go ahead. I mean, he doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: He's been around, go on the private jet, go stay
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  Speaker 2: in the, you know, $ 7, 000 a night room for five days.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And go have some fun. But one of the things
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  Speaker 2: that people constantly bring up is that her teeth have
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  Speaker 2: changed so much.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And that's where this TikTok conspiracy theories, is this really her?
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  Speaker 2: And all the research I've done is, yes, Brittany is alive.
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  Speaker 2: This is her.
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  Speaker 3: Were people around you saying that she was there? Like,
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  Speaker 3: was that like a rumor at the resort? Because I
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  Speaker 3: feel like that could be.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So my friends who were staying there, the driver said
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  Speaker 2: that they had just picked her up on the previous flight.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: The rooms that she was in spinning around and posting
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  Speaker 2: are the rooms at the Las Ventanas. And so is
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  Speaker 2: the beach setting. Right. So yes, 100% she was there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I think she left like on Saturday. And so
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  Speaker 2: I never got the opportunity to run into her, but
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  Speaker 2: nobody like, That I knew saw her out.
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  Speaker 3: Right. I mean, I don't think she probably leaves the
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  Speaker 3: room that much. Yeah. I think she's in the room
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  Speaker 3: a lot, probably. And then she goes down and does
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  Speaker 3: these photo shoots.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And then she goes. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean, maybe the manager is like, well, I
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  Speaker 2: just think it's good that you just stay relevant. So
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  Speaker 2: post and spin and who cares? Right. And I really
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  Speaker 2: think all these cheap dresses, because there were some doozies
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  Speaker 2: this weekend, were, I think it's like, that is almost
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  Speaker 2: like you do. with like a little toddler. Like, here
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  Speaker 2: are your... clothes. This is your dress up.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Here's your next 10 outfits.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: It's not going to cost a ton of money.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like, let me spin around and, and like,
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  Speaker 2: and everyone's just like, okay, that keeps her busy.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: She's not hurting anyone. I don't know. Um, but anyway,
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  Speaker 2: the teeth thing, everything I've read is people say, Certain
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  Speaker 2: people's teeth will move, even if they were perfect straight before.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: With age, certain types of teeth, you probably should have
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  Speaker 2: a retainer.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: I remember hearing from someone before the conservatory was switched. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That she wanted to go to the dentist and they
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't pay for it.
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  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 2: The dad wouldn't or whatever. Yeah. And so anyway.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's, first of all, I think it's her.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's totally true about your teeth because people
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  Speaker 3: tell me on Instagram or TikTok all the time. They're like,
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  Speaker 3: why didn't your parents get you braces? I'm like, I
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: had braces. Okay. Your teeth, they do move. Your teeth move.
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  Speaker 3: And I think most people's move closer together. You know,
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  Speaker 3: whose teeth also look a little different is Jessica Simpson. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: They kind of look like that. Yeah. And so, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it can be also just an unhealthy lifestyle.
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  Speaker 2: It can be other things. Right. But definitely some people
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  Speaker 2: had straight teeth before, and if they don't keep up
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  Speaker 2: with a retainer or whatever, just some people's teeth are
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  Speaker 2: more likely to move and others will not.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Done.
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  Speaker 2: It's no guarantee that your teeth won't move.
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  Speaker 3: I think there are, like, there's a lot of conspiracy
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  Speaker 3: theories about her. And I think that there are less,
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  Speaker 3: less of them are true than people think they are. Yeah. Like,
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  Speaker 3: I think that actually what we're seeing is very real. Like,
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  Speaker 3: people will say, like, oh, there was, like, this one
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  Speaker 3: about her in Paris a few weeks ago about, like,
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  Speaker 3: How she, you know, Paris, like, actually, like, recreated Britney's
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  Speaker 3: wedding and this whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, no.
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  Speaker 3: Like, this isn't true. I don't believe this. I don't
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  Speaker 3: think it's as complex as people think it is. Do
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  Speaker 3: I think she's doing well? No.
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  Speaker 2: Do I think there is a actual marriage license?
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 3: You don't think so?
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  Speaker 2: No one has ever seen it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: See, but that's not a conspiracy theory, don't you think? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, a lot of stars. I don't necessarily believe
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  Speaker 2: that even... Jennifer Aniston and Justin Theroux were officially married.
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  Speaker 3: That was way too easy for it to end, right? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I think they may have just had a ceremony.
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  Speaker 2: Or I don't even know if Gwyneth Paltrow and her
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  Speaker 2: husband are like officially really married.
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  Speaker 3: I don't care. Okay, but her last name is Paltrow.
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  Speaker 3: Now it's switched? Okay. So I thought maybe. I can
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: see why certain people are like, we don't really have.
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  Speaker 2: To get married, but I want to have this ceremony.
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  Speaker 4: Totally.
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  Speaker 2: And I want the world to know that we're like committed.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: But financially, I don't know. Well, good luck to her. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But it was strange. Okay, let's just close up on that.
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  Speaker 3: Gwyneth won.
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  Speaker 2: She won her dollar.
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  Speaker 3: And her legal fees.
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: And her legal fees.
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  Speaker 3: Great.
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  Speaker 2: And I saw a really funny meme, so I can't
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  Speaker 2: take credit for it. And I'm sorry, I can't give
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  Speaker 2: the credit. But she leaned over and she said to him,
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  Speaker 2: the eye doctor that accused her of all this, I
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  Speaker 2: wish you well. And the meme was, this is Brentwood's
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  Speaker 2: Bless your heart.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 2: It's so true.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. I wish him well.
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  Speaker 2: It's a very L.A. thing to say.
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  Speaker 3: I am the menace of Brentwood. That's what I call myself.
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  Speaker 3: I was in a workout class the other day and
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  Speaker 3: this woman was there and my family lives in like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to say exactly where they live, but
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  Speaker 3: it's like a beach town that like most people don't
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  Speaker 3: want to live there year round because it's cold.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to compare it to like Montauk. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So she was talking about it to somebody else, like
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  Speaker 3: just in class chatting.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And so she was like, oh, like, you know, it's
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  Speaker 3: a great place, but no one would want to live
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  Speaker 3: there year round. And so I turned to her and
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: I go, my family lives there year round. She was like,
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  Speaker 3: Her face just dropped. And she was like, oh, the
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  Speaker 3: restaurant's closed. I was like, yeah, well, some people enjoy it.
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  Speaker 3: It was like, just letting you know that I am
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: not like, you know, that is, but that's Brentwood, right? Like,
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: they just love to get their little digs in. And
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: they're so, yeah.
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: They're so in their bubble. They're so clueless. Exactly. Which
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: we saw, you know, a lot inside her bubble.
• 14:05
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: We saw that she had a.
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: A ski instructor for all four of them. I didn't
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: realize they each had their own friend. Each one had
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: their own, right.
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: And so that was an $ 8, 000 day for the family.
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: And she lost half of that after this traumatic event.
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: And I loved that the, the attorney on his side
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: was so starstruck and was so like dying to.
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: Like be her friend.
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: And just that she was just, and then coming out
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: with it, The stuff that she has said in interviews
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: and done is just unbelievable. But she's extremely privileged. She's
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: got Hollywood privilege. She's got, you know, money. She was
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: married to a famous person.
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: She's married to another rich guy.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: So like she said on that CVS receipt or whatever
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: that was, I'm not going to pretend that I'm someone
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: who makes.
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: $ 25, 000 a year.
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: And do you think she came off likable on the stand?
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I will. First of all, I do think
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: this case was bullshit and I don't think it was fair.
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: And I don't think it's fair to anybody that wants
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: to enjoy skiing. They shouldn't have to worry about this.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: And it was unheard of. And like, yeah, once I
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: guess he couldn't sue Deer Valley or lost that. Then
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: he went for her and it was just all bullshit.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: But it was fun for us to watch. Yeah.
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It was her best role in years. That's what
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: OK, so I think that. Kind of like Kate Hudson
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: that has established so many different things or even who's
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: the honest company?
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: Jessica Alba. Jessica Alba, yeah. They've made so much money
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: with these.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Products that they kind of are like, fuck it, I
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: don't need to ever act again. And I don't think
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: people realize that acting is really hard work. Yeah, it's exhausting.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: And these people have kids. You have to go away.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: You have to be on your feet. You're happy to
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: see it be wrapped.
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: You're in a trailer.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: It's 4 a.m. It's 12-hour days. So I don't think
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: she pursued it. But I think after this, my prediction
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: is there's going to be some really juicy, good, like
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: limited series streamer that she is going to star in.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: And we are going to love it as much as
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: the Nicole Kidman one where they were in... Like, not
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: White Lotus. The one that they're near the beach with
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: all the girls.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: Big Little Lies. Big Little Lies.
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: It's going to be something like that where she's playing
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: like a mom of like a college daughter. Yes. And
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: something is it's going to be great because that's what's
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: going to happen. And I'm down for it.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: Like I'm down.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: And she whoever she plays.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Should be in a super rich, entitled person.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: Totally. Like the Reese Witherspoon sort of role that she
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: constantly plays. I will say I got one DM about her. Yeah.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: And I won't I can't give all the specifics, but
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: I will say it was somebody who had interacted with
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: her a lot. Yeah. And no longer does. And they said,
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: you know, I had a lot of clients that were,
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: you know, really notable names in the Brentwood area. They said,
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: was she the best? Was she the nicest?
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: No.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: They said, was she the worst? The meanest? Absolutely not.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: Not by a long shot. So I think she knows,
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: like she knows her role. She knows her lane. And
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: I have to tell you, you know, I don't give
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: really a, can I swear? Yeah. I don't give a
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: shit about her. And I do think she does stuff
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: that's totally unhinged. But she did come off kind of
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: likable in this.
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: I couldn't help it. I was like, she's kind of
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: playing all of us, I think.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, if you're that girl that's going to
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: go on a goop and buy a $ 900 pajama set
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: or the vagina candle, well, then you're the idiot that
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: bought it.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: And you're the one that's going to bet $ 6, 000 to
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: go to a speaker thing for her for the weekend.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Then fucking go.
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Like no one's stopping you.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: You want to live that lifestyle and, you know, think
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: that you can shit out every toxin for the next
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: 20 years.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: Like go do it.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: I don't care. And that's not even how they make
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: their money. They make their money off the advertising on
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: that site.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: And then they have the permissions to sell your data. Okay.
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: So.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, really?
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: So they don't make the money off of how many
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: cashmere sweaters they sell. Right.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: So like they have like, you know, a New Balance
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: sneaker ad at the top. Right. Like, oh, OK, well,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to buy the $ 800 Goop sweater, but
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: I am going to like click on the New Balance thing.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: So I think that's how they make money.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: And so, you know, good, good for her. And that
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: guy seemed totally unhinged. And so I think she made
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: the right move.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: But one thing that people were excited about is that
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: she had a really cute lawyer.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: OK, he did not look that cute when I was
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: watching it on like my phone.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: OK. Don't you?
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, like that's him. That's the same guy. Yeah.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: He is cute. He is cute. Yeah. Okay.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: I'm all for cute lawyers staying lawyers. Like when, what's
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: her name? Camille Vasquez. Yes. I was so afraid that
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: she would jump ship and start doing some like law
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: show or something. And I'm so happy to say that
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: she is still being a lawyer. Yeah.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: No, I completely agree. So he needs to stay in
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: his lane. Yes. What is your recommendation to him?
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Stay in the lane.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Let this pass. Find a cool wife if you don't
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: have one already. And just keep doing what you're doing
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: and you'll soon be partner. And, you know, and don't
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: get caught up in these horny bitches writing you from home.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's great.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Because this too shall pass.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: He looks a little like Schwartz.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he is giving a little short, especially on the
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: left-hand side. Yeah, with the glasses. I mean, Shorts is
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: a good-looking guy. Yeah, he's cute.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, I need you to tell me this juicy story
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: that you've covered. About 60 Minutes covered it as well.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: But this couple is allegedly haunted by the eBay stalking scandal.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: What is this eBay stalking scandal?
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Tell the story. Okay, I'm obsessed with this. So there's
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: this couple, they live in Natick, Massachusetts, which is like
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: probably the equivalent of like living in the Valley compared
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: to Boston, right?
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: LA to Boston, whatever. So they, they're like these sort
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: of like at home journalists and she runs a newsletter,
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: like an online newsletter blog. And it's, it's bare bones
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: in a lot of ways, right? Like it's not super,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: you know, it's not like a very cool interface. And
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: basically for the last 20 years, her and the husband
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: have done reporting on eBay, Amazon, Etsy. And they'll say
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: things like, you know, Amazon's going to start charging you,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: you know, more money to ship or eBay seller fees
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: are increasing. Like stuff that, you know, I don't think
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: this happens anymore. But remember when people would make tons
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: of money off eBay?
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• 22:24
  Speaker 5: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Well, that's kind of what Jen Shaw of Real Housewives
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: of Salt Lake City was her fake business, was she
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: would find people and she would say, you've probably heard
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: about these people making all this money on eBay.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: We're going to help you set up some dumb little
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: business of some product that you'll.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Be able to sell. And like your storefront.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: And then there would never be any product and then
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: they would be in debt and then they would be like,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: we'll help you get out of debt. And it was
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: a whole big scam, but there was no actual way
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: of helping them launch a business.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But you're right. There was a lot of people
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: you'd hear, my neighbor did this on eBay.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: And that's how Kim kind of got started. Yeah. She
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: was selling like shoes and stuff.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: I remember when I was, I went to Kim's apartment
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: when I was selling Courtney a condo.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: And she had this nice apartment in West Hollywood and
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: she had a whole room where she.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Ran the eBay.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Right. And she was buying what she thought would be
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: a hot stylish item that would sell out and then
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: she would have it. Right. And- And that's what she
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: was selling.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: And sell it and get a markup. Yeah.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: She was a marketing genius back then.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: She's a hustler, right?
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: She was ahead of the game.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So they run this blog and in 2019, they
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: start getting like some sort of weird things happening at
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: their house. And at first they're kind of like, well,
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: this is just a little strange. Like they're getting like
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: weird phone calls and like threatening voicemails and weird DMs
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: that are like, I'm going to kill you and stuff
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: like that. But like, you know, I mean, I get
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: those DMs. And so like you kind of have to
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: chalk it up to like, oh, this is kind of weird.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Then it goes a little bit further.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: They get a voicemail that's like very threatening. So they
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: call the police and the police are kind of like,
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: you know, they come by and they're kind of like,
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know. But while they're there, a pig's mask
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: gets delivered to the house, like a fake pig's mask
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: from the movie Saw. And the police officer is like, okay, yeah,
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: this is kind of weird. So they start to tell them, like,
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: you have to be a little bit more, you know, careful.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: You got to be a little more careful. And then
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: at the same time, they get a delivery of live roaches.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: They get a delivery of live spiders. They start to
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: feel like they're being followed. I feel like this is going.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: To be the next Netflix movie, like The Watcher.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it really should be. And so they start sending
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: porn to their neighbors with their names on it. So
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: their neighbors are like coming over and they're like, hey,
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: we got these DVDs. Oh, my God. Yeah.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Like we got your mail by accident.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: And it's porn. It's like pornos. Yeah. So then they
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: start listing their house. I got to say this one.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Listing their house as sex parties on like a swingers website.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Oh my God. This is like this poor couple, Ida
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: and David Steinert. They're like 70 years old. Right. So
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: they start to get really nervous. And then they get
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: something in the mail. They get a funeral wreath. That
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: basically says to the husband, like, sorry, here are your
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: condolences or whatever. And the next day, he feels like
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: he's being followed. And he gets a plate number. So
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: he brings it to the police. And they're able to
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: track down.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: And how much time from the first threat to this,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: are we talking like a year?
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: No, like a few weeks. Oh, okay.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: So it's all like, I think this was like fall
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: of 2019.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: So I could have that wrong. But it's all in
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: a few weeks.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: And so.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: They take the license plate number, they run it, and
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: they trace it to a rental car of a woman
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: who's staying at the Ritz-Carlton in Boston. And they figure
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: out that she works for eBay. And they're like, well,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: that's weird. You know what I mean? Like, because we have,
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: you know, this eBay website. But like, why would anyone
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: be coming after us? So what ends up happening is
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: the police department is now like, we got to hand
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: this over to the FBI. And it turns out that
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: the eBay team had taken six of their employees. to
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: do a targeted campaign against these people because they were
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: mad that she had done a blog post that talked
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: about the salaries of the top of like the CEO
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: of eBay that he made like 127 times more than
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: the lowest paid employee. So they didn't like that news article.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: And then the FBI was able to get all their
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: emails and text messages. They were basically like, she wrote
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: this blog post. We don't like it. I want to
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: see ashes. She's going down. So they got these six people.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: They got a printout of their whole neighborhood. They had
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: a meeting and they're like, we're going to fly this
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: one out to Boston to basically terrorize her. And so
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: that's what they did. Over a blog post.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: And so what kind of, like, what's the consequences of
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: doing this?
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: So two people went to prison.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: That were actually.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, no. Sorry.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: One went to prison and one's on house arrest for
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: a year. So one.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Even though they were eBay employees.
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: So one of them went to prison. Like, you know,
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: it was like a security guy. Right. eBay has like
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: a security team. Right. So one went to prison and
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: then the woman who was actually.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: It's like worse than Scientology.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: I know. The woman who was the one that was
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: like actually physically doing the stuff. She's on like house
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: arrest for a year or something. A bunch of other
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: people got fired. But one guy who was really involved
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: in it. He is now the CEO of the Boys
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: and Girls Club of Silicon Valley. And he was let
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: go for his involvement in this. And it's I mean,
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: it's one of the most insane stories I've ever seen.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: And it's one of those things where like you've been
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: through it and then you start to get kind of paranoid. Right.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: And you think to yourself, like, there could be no way. Right.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Like these poor people, they're probably like this is like
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: your friend's parents. And you go to lunch with your friend.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: You'd be like, what's going on with your parents? And
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: they'd be like, oh, they're being stalked by eBay. And
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: you'd be like, no, they're not.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Like if someone told you that, would it, like my,
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: my first thing when someone.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Well, like what, remember like, sorry, go ahead. Yeah, no, no, no.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: But like when I first saw this, I was like,
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: this can't be true. Right. No. And it is.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: And well, I just listened to, you just reminded me
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: of something. I just listened to this podcast episode.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Called Something Was Wrong. Do you ever listen to that? No. Anyway,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: there was this girl, Lex Fitzgerald.
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: And it was her story. And I only found her
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: on Instagram. She has like 100,000 followers.
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: I don't think that's huge. But I guess she was
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: like a YouTube mommy.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. And she and her husband had all these cherub-looking kids.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: And they were attractive. And they product everything. And they
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: had this fun life.
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: And people liked her for what she said, tips. And
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: kind of earthy, kind of like gay birth at home, whatever.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Okay. Yeah. For four years, she had people.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Coming after her on comments and DMs to the point
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: where they did get her number. They did call her.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: They decided to live at different Airbnbs during the pandemic
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: and whatnot. Take their kids out of school. These people
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: would then find her and they called CPS on her
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: in several different cities.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Which I think is the ultimate horrific thing.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And I'm listening to it and I'm like, I know.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: That who was ever doing this was some woman that
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: attempted to be a mommy blogger and wasn't successful. Right.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: And it was. It was seven different people. Some were couples.
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: That were trying to be YouTube families. And some, and
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: it was girls that were her fans to start.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Yep. They had their own, this thing called Discord. Discord. Okay, yes.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Is that like a Reddit? Well, it's kind of like
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: a private chat. It's almost like having a WhatsApp, but
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: around one topic.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: So there was a group there. I have hate groups
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: on Facebook of people that I had to kick out
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: of my Facebook group because they were evil.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: And once in a while, whatever.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: You'll get some weird DM.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, fine.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: But anyway... So, yeah. But it's always people that were
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: originally a fan. Okay. And then either they didn't.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Like what you said. Like the parasocial relationship gets really intense, right?
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: The parasocial relationship gets really intense. Yeah. People are like,
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: oh my God, I love this person. And then they
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: do something that they don't like. And they can't. And
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: they can't come back from it. But I also think
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: it's a jealousy thing of like....
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I attempted to do what you did and I'm not
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: good at it.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Right. And I'm not okay seeing that you are. Have
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: your success. Yes.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: And I am going to do everything I can. And
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: it was just insane. Like it's an, it's, it's terrible.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: And it's like there, it is really hard for law
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: enforcement to do that much, especially because it's like, it's
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: just so vague and you're like, you know, and what
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: really is a death threat and what really is a
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: threat to you. And, Thank God the CPS situations, the
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: CPS people were qualified. But I know for a fact,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: because my sister is an attorney and she's worked in that,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: that you could get the wrong person.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Oh my God, you totally could.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: She often defended parents that wrongly had their kids taken away.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: And so it's like, it is not something to fuck with,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: to joke about, like.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Why would you want to destroy someone's kid's life, the
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: kid's life?
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Your kid could be taken away for six months.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: And if you don't have money to hire another attorney
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: to fight the system. Like, do you imagine if your, like,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: two-year-old was away from you in foster care for, like,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: eight months because some crazy bitch on the internet was
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: jealous of your career?
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: Didn't that happen on Housewives? Didn't someone send somebody to
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Dina's house? They did.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Dina Manzo? Yes. I don't remember that.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: When Lexi was younger, they, somebody, like, I don't know
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: who it was, but somebody reported her to CPS. And
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: you're right. Like, these people, like, you know, and what
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: if something looks weird to them, right? Like, what if
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: your kid, like, these kids are little. They don't know, right?
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: And so you never know. And so why would you
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: want to do that to somebody? It's terrifying. That's why I, like,
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: stay away from people's kids. You know what I mean? Like,
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: how can you, like, do that and then sleep at night?
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: And then, of course, housewives are in a bigger profile
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: and people are even more jealous. There's so many women
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: that are fans that are just so jealous of that
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: these women can have this fun and successful life and
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: they can get new teeth and they can go on
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Ozempic and they can, and the people just lose their mind. Like,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I was okay with you when you had bad teeth.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: Until you did this. Yeah.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Once you had good teeth and you were a size two,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: I can't take it. She must be a bad mom.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Because she went through dental surgery.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Like, It's just, I mean, it's terrifying.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: It really is terrifying. Don't you think people feed off
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: of this, though? Like, that's what I feel like happened
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: here is, like, these guys probably got, like, addicted to
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: the idea of terrorizing these people, too, right? Like, you
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: sort of are like, oh, what else can we do
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: to them? Just like this mommy blogger, right?
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Well, I feel bad that these people were actual eBay
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: employees and they had to go to prison for it.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, that should be a whole thing. Like, granted,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: you have some free will, but when it's your job
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: and you want to keep your job, And this person
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: ahead of you is like, you're the best. You're, I mean.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: It's all the lower level people who got in tons
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: of trouble.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's so sad. That's like, they're desperate. Like,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: that's awful. Yeah.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: So do they still write their blog?
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: They do.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: They're like, and you know what?
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: You got to give them credit. It's like still, you
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: should see their lawyer. Their lawyer is exactly who you
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: would want to have as your lawyer. She is like,
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: she's from Boston. Her name is Rosemary Scarpaccio. Okay. And
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: she's got like this bare bones website. And she's on
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: the news the other night. And she's just like, they
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: got more death threats than you could imagine. I'm like,
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: this is the lady you would want. You know what
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: I mean? You know, like when you just see somebody,
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: it's like.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: But I mean, so hopefully they're suing eBay, right?
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: Oh my God.
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: And they say there's so much more that like is
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: still under the investigation that they can't even share yet.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: But I will say, like, the former prosecutor for Massachusetts
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: was like, well, you know, they just said death threat.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: They didn't... But, like, don't you feel it's different? Like,
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: it's one thing to DM somebody and be like, I,
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: you know, I get the Taylor Swift fans. Even though
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: I like Taylor Swift, it'll be like, I, you know,
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: I hope you get murdered or whatever. But it's so
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: different to, like, go to someone's house and, like, get
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: them a funeral wreath.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: No, I totally agree. And I do think.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: You know, if you really have a death threat, yeah,
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: like I would screen grab it or whatever. But I
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: think the first thing you do is you delete and block. Right.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Delete, block.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Right. Because it's just like, come on. But I understand
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: in the case of this girl I was talking about,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: the Lex Fitzgerald or whatever, when it goes on really
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: long or when something then actually your phone rings or
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: actually someone's at your door or a mail thing, yes,
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: that is, you know, that is disturbing.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: That should be taken seriously.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's a juicy story.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: I did have something happen at my hotel room. So, like,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: the second day.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: This, just on this trip.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the second day I was there.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: I saw this little envelope that said, like, Ms.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: McDonald.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: And in it was, like, a little note. And it
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: was just, like, I kind of broke in English, but
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: written pretty well. And just, like, I'm a big fan.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: I like award shows. But I'm like. It tells me, like,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: they didn't really know who I was, but someone said, like,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: that girl's a celebrity or something. And then I take
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: care of my father, and it's financially draining. So I
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: guess they were saying, you know, leave me a big
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: tip or something.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: I see.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: But it was kind of weird that it was just
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: an envelope, and it was, like, right by my bed on, like,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: day two.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: Do you think it was probably somebody who was, like,
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: doing housekeeping? Yeah.
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, I wasn't going to tell anybody. I
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: wasn't going to tell the hotel because I'm, like... who cares?
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: But right.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: And then I was like, I don't know if I
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: should be super flattered that anyone knows who I am.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: Like I did leave a nice tip, but I was like, okay.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: But I was like, you know, like you are a
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: little bit like the watcher, like, okay. Right.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: How do you like, especially like, it's kind of like,
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: how do you know that? Right.
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, um, Okay, well, that was pretty juicy.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Okay, so... Oh, no, wait. I want to ask you
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: one more thing. Yeah. Since we're talking about eBay. Yeah.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: When I even touched on this conspiracy theory about the Wayfair.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: The Wayfair thing. But then when it popped up recently... Again? Like,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: I came across somebody's thing.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: Somebody's talking about it again.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: And I'm like.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: The reason people believed it was Pretty insane. I mean,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: it was pretty undeniable. It was pretty weird.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Did we ever figure out, and for those that don't know,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: people posted videos of them looking for like an armoire
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: on Wayfair. Right.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: That was like, you.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Could get for $ 600 or less somewhere, and it was
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: like $.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: 12, 000.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: And they believed that it really was code for.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Go to this next site and then you'll be involved
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: in this dark web of trafficking kids.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: That's where, but did Wayfair ever like say, or was
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: it that Wayfair was innocent and somebody created this stuff?
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: What do you know?
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: I remember what happened. So what Wayfair said is what
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: we do is when an item sells out, we just
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: price it really, really high. So it won't come up
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: on your searches. Like, because a lot of times people
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: get to Wayfair not because they're like Wayfair.com. They get
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: to it because they're like, I want an armoire for
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: under $ 500. Right.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: So they were like, so we just price everything really high.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: And sometimes like only one color will sell out and
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: we don't want to take it off the website or whatever.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: That's what they said. But I do think, you know,
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, I online shop, you online shop.
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Like things are just sold out. Like why wouldn't you
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: just put sold out?
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Right. I still think it's weird. And I'm not, I
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: don't know if like Wayfair had anything to do with
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: it or somebody was Something weird happened.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Something did weird happen. That it got that far. I
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: don't think there was like bringing you to, I don't
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: think it was bringing you to like children trafficking.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Or they were framing Wayfair.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Yes, but it is very strange.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: But it was weird. It was very weird. And you
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: can't be mad at people for seeing this and being like,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: what the fuck? Because it was extremely compelling.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Like, it was like, yeah, this is weird.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know why you wouldn't just take it down.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: And I don't also to like, you know, people are unhinged.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: So if they feel like I really want like what
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: if Brittany saw that? She's like, that's the armoire I want.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: I just I just saw in my group, which is
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: normal people that they went and they were looking for something.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: They typed in something and then someone.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: Else did it.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: And they're like, this is absolutely true. And it was
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: on Amazon. I'll show it to you after I put
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: it in the slideshow. And it's a photo of a
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: little girl. Her skirt is up. And her underwear is
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: switched to the side. And it was, like, on Amazon.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: There's some weird stuff going on with Amazon. So there
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: is some weird stuff and that someone's able to hack
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: in or do something or give a code to somebody.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: And so then that made.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Me like in the middle of the night go on
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: a search of like the craziest made for TV movie
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: I've ever seen.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: What is it?
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Fallen Angel.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: What's it about?
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: So I started to think about it in my head
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: and I couldn't remember the actress.
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, I swear to God, I saw this
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: movie when I was like eight and it left such
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: an impression on me. And I found it and I
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: saw what it was about. And it's about this girl.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: It's in the late 70s. It was a made for
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: TV movie. This girl, her dad dies, her mom's dating
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: somebody else. And this is before an internet or anything.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: And this guy is working with this other guy to
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: produce child pornography, like in magazines. That's how you had
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: to do it back then. And so then he lures
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: this girl to, he grooms her and everything. She starts
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: taking photos with like another young boy who's obviously experienced
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: with it.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And this whole thing.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: And then the mom finds out and she runs away
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: and then she becomes kind of like promiscuous.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: And I could not believe, like I watched that. How
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: old were you when you watched this? I had, well,
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: first I had no supervision. I was going to say,
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: what was going on after school that like where your
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: parents were both working, right?
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: But also, I could stay up as late as I want,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: and I would watch made-for-TV movies from 8 until 10 p.m.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: all the time. Or, yeah, that's when they were. And
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: I remember my friend goes, I remember you came to
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: school in third grade, and we were like, you're telling everybody?
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Did you watch The Mistress last night? Like, I just
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: was like, but I remember this.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: And I was just like going, because I'm going to
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: watch Brooke Shields.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, the documentary. Documentary on Hulu.
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Which comes out, I think, tonight or tomorrow.
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: And I'm going to discuss that on Thursday's show. But that,
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: I was like, so I was kind of like, was
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: this made for TV movie meant to expose what's going on?
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Or was it like a slight media grooming? Well, when
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: did that Brooke Shields movie come out? Because like around
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: the same time. So I feel like they were probably
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: like looking at it and saying, oh, this is selling.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: And so why don't we try this?
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Even though it was a dark situation.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: And, but yeah, it was like, I mean, I can't believe,
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: and I know my juicy scoopers are going to go,
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: I fucking remember that movie, Fallen Angel. And I did
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: take a photo of it, so we'll put it in
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: the thing, because it's like, it was crazy.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: Like the IMDb? Yes, I read the whole thing.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: I was like, remembering the plot, I remember the scene
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: by her by the lake, I remember the photography. And
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: I remember thinking, this could happen to me, because I
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: was so desperate to like, want to be an actress
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: and stuff. And this guy comes up to her and
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: he's like, you look like Farrah Fawcett.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: She clearly didn't.
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: She was just an average looking girl. But she was
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: only like 12. Right.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: And I was, you know, and then he's like, just
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: come on, you look sexy. Take this off. And I
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: was like, oh my God, I could totally see how
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: like you could get sucked into this.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: Totally.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Because, you know, and anyway, so let's move on.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: A lot of, I've said this before, a lot of TV,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: since I didn't have any restrictions on what TV I watched,
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: a lot of TV kept me on the straight and narrow.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: So whether it was, I didn't get sucked into child
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: porn or any porn, though I loved any movie about it. Also,
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: after school specials, which is before your time, kept me
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: from getting pregnant, doing drugs, trying angel dust.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: Yes. Being a runaway. Did you read Go Ask Alice?
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: I was like, if I even smoke a cigarette, I'm
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: going to end up dead.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: And I think there needs to be more actual movies
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: to watch, not just a sad article or a one-minute TikTok.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: I've said this forever.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: There should be people making those type of compelling movies
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: that they actually make required viewings.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: When they have a movie day because the teacher's lazy
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: or it's raining or whatever. Like, why not do, why
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: not have actual stuff like we had that will make
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: people go, wow, this person tried this and there was
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: fentanyl in it and like actually make a movie about it.
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Because you could tell your kids till you're blue in
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: the face. But if they actually see it.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: See it. Yeah.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Dramatically with actors that look like them.
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: And are great actors and everything. It could make a
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: huge difference in, like, why you don't want to try
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: this stuff ever.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: Right. And euphoria just makes it look cool.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Or I just... Here's a story I just saw, which
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: is really sad.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: But interesting, too. This kid, he was, like, 18.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And he's.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Playing video games or whatever. And I guess somehow, whoever
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: he was friends with on the video game or something,
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: then He thought it was a girl and she DM'd
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: him and she presented herself as like a volleyball player.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Like a North Carolina volleyball player.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: With photos and stuff. So they start flirting on DM
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: and they start, I guess, getting each other's number and
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: texting nudes. And then this girl, quote unquote girl, is like,
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: I'm going to expose you sent me these nudes and
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: all this stuff unless you give me $ 350. And the
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: kid didn't have a lot so he gave like $ 50.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: And then The threats kept coming and to the point
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: where he, you know, unalived himself. And I immediately, like,
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: told Brandon the story. And Brandon goes, I will never
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: send a nude or do a nude. He goes, because
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: you don't know who anybody is or where it will
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: end up. He goes, even to my wife. He goes,
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: even to my wife one day. I'm not going to
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: do that, mom.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, good.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: I literally.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: But that's because you guys have these conversations at home. Right.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: And also, too, like as sad as it is, if
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: this happens to one of your kids, I think they
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: both know. And I know like everyone says this. I
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: think they know they could come to you and say like, hey, mom, like.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Well, what I what I said to him was I'm like, listen,
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: I just I'm telling you, there's nothing. There's no financial thing.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: There's nothing that I'll ever feel like we can't fix. Right.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: But I could see how a kid and they said
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: it's mostly boys will be like, oh, my God.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. I don't see anything.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: Also, that's a really vulnerable age for men. Yeah. It's
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: like 15 to 18.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Of where they feel like, I'm never going to get
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: out of this. Right. I don't know how to explain it.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: I'm never going to get out of it. And I said,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: the only thing that I can relate this to, and again,
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: this is before your time, but my Jersey Scoopers will know.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: There was this thing that was called like, I forgot it,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: but Columbia House Records.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, where you could get the albums.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: You could get the albums.
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: And it's like in the back of a magazine.
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: And it's like for $ 1. Yeah.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: You get like 14 albums.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: 14 like... Well, my day was cassette tapes. Okay.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: So you fill out all the ones you want. You know, Madonna, whatever.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: And I literally sent $ 1 in the mail.
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: And they all came.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: I'm like, this is amazing.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: And then the next thing, another bunch comes. It's like Fabletic.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: And then with... Right?
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: And then this bill came. And it was like $ 56
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: and $ 136.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: And I.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Was the anxiety I had. I was 11.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: And I remember. It's like 1970s. So that's a lot
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: more money too.
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: And I remember I knocked on my dad's little office
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: door in our house. Balling. Coming clean. Like we're going
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: to lose the house. Like I don't know what is.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: Going to happen.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: And he was just like, okay, I understand. He was
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: so sweet about it. He's like, don't ever like do
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: this without talking to us. And, you know, and he's like, look.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: And he just wrote a checkout. He mailed it. He's like,
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: we don't want any more. Like, you know, but I mean,
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: I let it go on because I was too scared. Right,
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: like you stick them under your pillow. I kind of
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: felt like I did something. I knew I did something wrong.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: I knew I wasn't, like, you know, now people say, oh,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: my kid took my phone and ordered $ 3, 000 worth of.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: Gummy bears or whatever.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: Like, that type of stuff happens. But kids need to know, like,
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: that these scams are happening all the time. And they're
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: literally going after young men, even more than girls.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because girls know, like, I think we're teaching young women, like, hey,
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: you got to be really careful. Right. And so, and
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: they're used to that. But I think with boys, like,
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: they get, you know, oh, my God, this, like, hot
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: girl from, like, UNC is DMing me.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Brandon was also like, I don't think
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: my dick is that bad, but I won't sit in anyway.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, I'm like, God, what, what? Like,
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: you know, but the girl, like, an inexperienced guy doesn't know.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: And if a girl is, like, it looks weird and
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: I'm going to let the world know, he might be like,
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: it is like, it's so sad.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: It's so sad. Okay.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: So getting back to Ashton Kutcher and Mila said they
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: refused to leave their kids, their $ 220 million inheritance, which
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: as right now it's 220. I can't imagine what it'll be.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: God willing, they live till their old grandparents. What do
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: you think about this? Because you do a lot on your, um,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: on your page on TikTok and Instagram about generational wealth
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: and the extreme wealthy people. And I find it fascinating.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: So what are your thoughts?
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, what are they saying? Are they
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: going to donate it? Okay.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Well, that's nice.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: So they're kind of following the like Bill and Melinda
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: Gates thing. Right. And so when that came out, when people,
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: when Bill and Melinda Gates were like, we're not leaving
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: our kids, you know, all of our money, I think
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: a lot of people were like up in arms and
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: I'm sure people feel that way about this, but these,
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: Kids are so privileged. So sad. Like they're so sad.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter what they want to do. OK, if
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: they want to be an actor, they can be an actor.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: If they want to go to college, they can go
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: to college. Everything will be paid for. That doesn't mean
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: I think saying this does not mean. that mom and
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: dad aren't going to buy your house, that mom and
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: dad aren't going to get you, you know, a meeting
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: with Uncle Lorne. Like they can do whatever they want
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: to do. So they're going to be fine. And so
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: this makes these two look really good, right? This is
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: a total PR move. And I guarantee you that they
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: have set up separate financial things for the kids. I
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: bet the kids have stocks. I bet they have trust.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: So it's like, oh, this money is over here. Right.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: And like, OK, so maybe I'm only going to get
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: like 10 million when I turn 25. But you have
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: all the connections in the world. OK, like this isn't
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: like regular people whose parents are like, you know what?
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: Not going to leave you the.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: You know, $ 400, 000.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: House when I die, like, and you're just like a
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: regular person. Right, right. So I think it's total PR. Exactly.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: If your parents had one house that you grew up
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: in and then you were like, well, when mom and
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: dad die, at least we'll each get about 60 grand
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: split between the four of us. Right. That's like an
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: average person. And there's a lot of people that don't
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: even have that. Right. Their parents lived in an apartment
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: their whole life.
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: They're on subsidized housing, whatever. They'll never have that. Right.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: And that, you know, and we were actually talking about
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: the generational wealth, which has been talked about so much
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: and I didn't really understand it. And I'm like, well, yeah,
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's people that came from the Mayflower that
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: have been establishing, establishing, and you're right. Those kids, you know,
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: they're going to have something no normal person can think about.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: But then there's a couple more generations. And then there's
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: people that are first generation, but so wealthy, so already
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: a billionaire, and that's a whole different situation. And I
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: just think, I think it's more about if your parents
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: can help you with the down payment, no matter where.
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: You live, that's privilege.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: And then there's levels of that. Totally. And because there's
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: so many people that do not have that.
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: And that wouldn't ask, wouldn't even think about it.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: Never an option. So for me, when I see this,
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: I'm just like, this is PR. I remember when Melinda Gates,
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: Bill Gates' daughter got married, right?
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: And she had this like insane wedding, absolutely gorgeous.
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: And, you know, I think somebody was talking about the
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: fact like, well, she's not inheriting any of the money.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: I'm like her wedding alone. Right. Like these are the
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: things that occasionally sometimes people call on their parents to
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: help them with. Yeah. It doesn't matter for her at all.
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: And like she goes to med school. Right. Like. And so, yeah,
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: maybe she's not going to be a billionaire, but she's
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: going to be running in all these circles.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: Right. So it doesn't matter. She can charter a jet
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: anytime she wants.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. Yeah. So I think it's a great
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: PR move. And they just, like, didn't he just sell, like,
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: he owned a cell phone company or something?
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, he was one of the first people on Twitter. So, yeah,
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: he was always in the tech world. He's really smart
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: with his business opportunities and stuff.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: So they probably don't want people.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: And speaking of, he's someone that needs to leave acting forever.
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Because he just came back and watched and
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: was in that Reese Witherspoon movie. Right.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: And it was like painful.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: It was so bad. Just be gorgeous and rich. Yeah.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: We don't need to see any more romantic comedies from you.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: Totally. Like, no.
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: I'm done. Sometimes I allow people. We want her back. Yes.
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: And Mila can stay.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: I'm fine.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: But like, no, don't need to see him act ever again.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And that's okay.
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: I just saw another horrible movie he was in. I
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: like to call them the Dry Bar movies. They're movies
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: that they.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: Play at Dry Bar.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: It was one with Cameron Diaz. And it was like
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: they got married in Vegas for no reason. I don't know.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: It was so bad. Because she doesn't act anymore, right?
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: She doesn't act anymore. I'd like to see her come
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: back as like, you know, some rich mom. But I
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: think she was just like, I'm good.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: A lot of people are just over it.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: Let me ask you this. Doesn't it not pay what
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: it used to pay? That's what I hear. Yes.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: It does not pay what it used to pay. And,
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: you know... And the roles dry up for their ages.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: So she might've been like, look, I knew she might've
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: been really smart about it and didn't get weird about it.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: And was like, that's what I'm gonna have my kids
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: later in life. And I had this 15 years of
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: being in all the dry bar movies. And now I'm like, good.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: I don't need anyone to freak out about my face
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: the way they are freaking about Justine Bateman's face. Like,
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: I don't need to do it.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: So like, I don't know that I want to like
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: fix my face like that. And I don't want anyone
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: to hear like, Yeah. And you really like in a
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: way I can't blame them. Like I saw Hilary Swank.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: She has that TV show. Right. Like one of those.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: She's got like a procedural or something. Right.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, it was a procedural like a series.
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah. She's got like a series on network TV.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: And so I feel like they were probably like, you
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: could do this or you could do a skincare line. Like,
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: what do you, which do you want to do?
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: And it's like, well, the skincare line probably takes a
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: lot less time. And I'm not saying, you know, I'm
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: the first one.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: It takes a lot less time. You just show up
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: and go, okay, this is the thing. They're not, they're
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: not out there, you know, extracting the juice from the
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: melon like Cindy Crawford obviously did 15 years ago, 20
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: years ago when she started hers.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: Remember that?
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: Oh my God. Like I'd be watching it on, it
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: would be an infomercial.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, wait, let's talk about, wait, I'm going to
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: skip over this and go right to, do you guys
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: know that Brad Pitt has a skincare line? I don't
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: think a lot of people know. You've been trying to
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: let us know.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: I've been trying to let people know. And I feel
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: like people don't want to talk about it. And I
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: will tell you, I was diving deeper on this yesterday
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: before I got distracted by the eBay story.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: By the way, I want to say, I have this
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: all on my YouTube. Please subscribe with the photos.
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: What?
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: That's not a great photo.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: No, it's not.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: Of skincare. It's like bad shadowing. He looks wrinkled. Like
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: I would have done like a golden hour where you
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: see like a manly face and it's really kind of glowing.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: Like again, lazy. Fucking lazy.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: He didn't even want to do a photo shoot. You
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: know what it is. What? Where does he look like
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: he is to you? He looks like he's in a winery. Oh, winery. Okay.
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: So this is all part of the bigger plan.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: Of the Miraville?
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: Winery? Yeah.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: What is it?
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Tell me everything.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: Because this thing is done in partnership. with all the
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: people that he owns the Miravelle with, right? It's the
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: same family. So what he's trying to do is he's
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: trying to put this out there while distracting you that
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: he's got this crazy lawsuit stuff going on with Angelina
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: Jolie over the winery. So you'll notice that a lot
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: of these photos, once you look at them, you're like, oh,
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: I guess that could look like Napa Valley. Like, I mean,
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: because I don't know what they look like in Europe
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: or whatever. So that I think is part of it
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: is to make it sort of simultaneously plug both the
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: wine and the skincare.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: Is it skincare for just aging men?
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: What is it? It's genderless, which I'm like, okay, so
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: is Dermalogica. Like a lot of them are not, you know, super,
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: you know, gender branded. And, you know, I think in
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: the beginning when they came out, they were making it
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: all about like, we use these grapes and they come
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: from our winery. And then they completely redid the website
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: and they made it all like, it's not another celebrity
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: beauty brand. And it's just like, Hmm. Interesting. I think
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: they leaned into that narrative of, you know, we're doing
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: this differently and it's all to rehab his image, which
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: I think I think it's working.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: Is he dating anyone that you know about?
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: Not that I know of. People are saying he's dating someone,
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: but I think it's.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: According to some people, Sun being one of them, Northwest
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: will soon become the Kardashian family's next big star with
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: her own businesses and movie roles. And there was talk
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: that she'll be coming out with a skincare line because
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: she uses her mom's and she does the whole TikTok.
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: Scoring it on her face.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: Which, by the way, never since TikTok did I ever
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: think to squirt my serum right on my face. I've
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: always put it on my hand.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: Put it on your hand. I don't feel like it's
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: very sanitary. Is it just an aesthetic?
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: Is that why? No, I put it on my hands.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: And then I rub it on.
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: Right, because I wash my hands first.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: I think it's better than putting the dropper on your face.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: Like I first wash my face, which washes my hands.
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: And then I do it. But I think it's like
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: people do that. And I'm like, what nine-year-old needs a
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: fucking aging serum?
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: Like, I think my mom would have been happy if
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: I was just using Clearacel then.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: If she starts a skincare line, whether she does it
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: now or at 13, anybody that buys this for their
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: kid is a fucking idiot.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: Done.
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: Sorry.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: No. Yeah.
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: I think it is coming. I do think it's coming.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: Your kid has some, you know, skin issues.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: And you can't afford going to a real dermatologist. Neutrogena
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: has been around forever. And these other places, go to Target.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: They've been around forever. Teach your kid habits. Like, we
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: do not need this.
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: No.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: But I don't even know if it's true. But it
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: probably is.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: Well, I remember seeing there were trademarks for, like, a
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: home line before it even came out, before her home
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: line came out. And I was like, she's going to
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: do a home line or some type of combo with North.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: And you were obsessed with the concrete wastebasket.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: I'm still obsessed with them.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Can you still buy that? You can.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: You can.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: How much does it cost to ship a piece of
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: concrete like that?
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: You know what?
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: That's the crazy thing. The pricing is really good. It's
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: only 20 bucks. The shipping is $ 20, which is actually crazy.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: To get the concrete.
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: To get the concrete waste bin. But, you know, I mean,
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: that just kind of gave her skincare like a little boost.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: I think she probably knows people are going to make
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: fun of it.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: And then, you know. I don't think she knows.
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: Really?
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: You don't think she knows?
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: No.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: You don't think people knew that they were going to
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: make fun of it when she was like putting the
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: tissues don't even fit in the tissue box. Like you
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: can't put, you know how like if a tissue box holder,
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: you can just throw the Kleenex box in.
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: Like there's, you can't even fit it in. So you
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: got to take all the tissues out and put them in,
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: which is disgusting.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: But I don't think she thinks about that because that's
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: the type of stuff that they do. I mean, that's
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: another thing where this trend of like taking all of
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: your food out of its cartons and putting it in
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: these glass cartons, like in your cartons.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: Aesthetically pleasing fridge.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: That is 100%. Anybody that's created glass cartons for the
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: fridge need to write a thank you note to the Jenners, Kardashians,
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: because they created that. Even more.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: Than Yolanda's fridge. Oh, I agree.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: They created that.
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: They always had the like cookies on the counter underneath
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: the like, you know.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, it does look kind of nice.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: I remember only in TV shows was I was like,
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: oh my God, someone actually takes the orange juice carton
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: and puts it into a glass thing.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, like a pitcher?
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. That would only happen, like, in a family
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: on TV.
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: I thought everyone had it from the, like... Did you
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: ever have the concentrate when.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: You were little?
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: 100%.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: I loved it.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: It was so good.
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know if they still make that. And then we.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: On Saturdays, my dad would put it on a blender
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: and make, like, a fake, like, orange margarita.
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: We're not putting as much water.
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yeah. Because then you get it. Like, it was, like,
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: basically all, like, high-fructose corn syrup. It was so good, though. Yeah.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, do you know about this latest juice?
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: A little bit.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: This is from all about the Real Housewives Instagram. But
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: this is from a Reddit thing. It's an actual lawsuit.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: It's a sexual harassment lawsuit against Jason Sabo, who's been
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: married to Pandora, Lisa Vanderpump's daughter, since 2011.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: It is just a lawsuit. Doesn't mean it's true. Of course.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: Doesn't mean it'll go anywhere. Doesn't mean that it, you know...
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: But it is being talked about on all the blogs
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: and everything. So I just thought I would bring it up.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: And you said you read about it.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: I did read it. I did read the actual, because
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: it's against a bunch of different people. Within the Rosé
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: company or what is it? I think that it's different
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: people who work for different wine companies. Because it looked
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: like it was like, okay, this guy and then he
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: works for X wine company. And then this Jason guy
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: and he works for like, it's like Palm Wines or something.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: It's a conglomerate. And so I did read through it
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: and then I read the allegations that were against him.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: And so there were like two times, I think, where
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: he was out to dinner with this woman and he
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: asked her to come back to his hotel room.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: And some comment of like, I'm a celebrity.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: And then there was another time. And then there was,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: when I was reading this, did you get the impression
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: that You know, she did say that they had romance.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: I didn't think it did.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: I thought it did. You did? I thought it was like,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: and then we had dinner again, and then this happened
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: every time. And I'm like, well, did you go back
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: to the hotel room? Are you just saying he's harassing
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: you to go? Yeah.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: I couldn't tell from that. what if like okay but
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: then some people were saying oh he's had like there's
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: allegations of like multiple affairs and then i didn't find
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: anything about that but i yeah totally exhaust my search
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: but i didn't feel like i read that in like
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: that he had had a ongoing relationship with her in
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: this article or.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: I mean i i feel like these things you know
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: happened and if it you know and she has every
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: right to bring it forward and let them figure it
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: out and do depositions and all this but It could
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: also not be true. Right. Or it could be that,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't know. But I do think it's
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: really interesting because I was talking to my friend who
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: works in HR for a corporation, several different corporations. And
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: I'm like, so let me just get this straight, what
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: this is like as the HR person of a big company.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: I'm like, so two people start to date in the company.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: They literally say the minute you start dating, unless you
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: are the exact same time of being there, you're hired
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: the same day, you have the exact same title, and
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: you make the exact same money, is the only way
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: that you can have sex and date without the underling
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: saying at some point, I can sue the company, I
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: was harassed.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: So is that why you think TJ Robach and Amy
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: Holmes got canned?
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: Well, I think it's a, well, for him, he did
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: have two affairs where he would be the superior person. And, um,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: and because they were together, it's not like she was
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: saying he was a superior, she was a superior, but
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: it's just a mess. I mean, it's a, you cannot
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: work like you just cannot. And if you do, and
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: if you're the, if you're, let's just say the guy
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: who is in the superior position and you're dating this girl,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: like you, the two of you would have to go
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: straight to the PR person and like, like literally sign
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: a consent thing saying like, I am willingly dating this
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: guy that's slightly superior to me. Because even if it's
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: out and even if everybody is like, oh yeah, they're
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: a couple, it's fine. If then, let's say they break up. Right.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: And the girl is like, her like a lot of
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: girls do.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: And then she can't do her job and she can't,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: she can immediately sue and be like, I was groomed.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: I was this, I was that.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: And so the company is like, look, we're going to
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: have to pay out this girl no matter what. Right.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: So I literally said to my friend, I go, so
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: what do you do? She's like, I basically say, unless
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: you think you're going to get married, if you like
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: this job, I would not date this person.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: Like, literally. It's just not worth it.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: It just.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: Go find another job.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: But, like, unless you're, like, really are going to marry them. Yeah. Like,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: and I feel that's kind of sad because a lot
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: of people do fall in love at work.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: They do. But, like, unless you both stay.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: Get married, get married. Right. I even think even if
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: you got divorced, maybe you could still come back and
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: be like, I didn't even want to marry this guy.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: He was my manager. I mean, I don't even know
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: how many things you could say. Like, I feel like
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: every girl, whether it's Raquel from there can say, I
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: was groomed.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: I was coerced.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: Sure.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: I can't keep my job. And I'm not like hating women.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying like at a certain point, come on,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: you know? And I'm like, and I also feel like
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: I feel like there, whether it's conscious or not, I
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: think there's a lot of people that if they have
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: a company with like, you know, 20 people working in
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: sales and most of them are guys, former frat guys,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: but they're sales.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: Here walks in this powerhouse girl. She wants the job.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: She's smart. Yeah. Great interview. Yeah.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: I believe that there are certain people that will probably
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: not hire that attractive girl now because they're like, I
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: can't trust. These 12 guys that aren't going to.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: There's like a bias.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: Have a romance with their kid on her.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: Go to drinks after.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: There's a sales meeting in San Francisco that's drinking with doctors.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: We're selling medical supplies. Like, I really think in all
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: of this, it's so good that it's out there. But sadly,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: come after me, people. Sadly, I think some pretty smart
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: girls are going to lose out a little bit.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: I get you. No, I see what you're saying.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: Like, because it's like, oh, my God, you know, I can't.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: Well, and also, too, like, it's always the woman who
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: ends up, like, taking the fall at the end of
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: the day. Right. And so, I don't know.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, I always say Ghislaine Maxwell is the only
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: one in prison. She's a piece of shit, but she's
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: the only one. That's true. All these women who were
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: sex trafficked by all these.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: Men in the Epstein world. We don't know one of them.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: We don't have one name.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: Sure. Right. Right.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: Right. And the other one's dead.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: Okay. But you're like me. Like we never got to
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: go on the apps. Right. And don't you feel like
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: I'm like, why would you want to date somebody at work?
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: Just go on the apps. Like I'm so jealous that
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: I never got to go on the apps.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: I am and I'm not. At first I was jealous.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: And now I think that there is such a sad,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: dark side to it that I predict a new movement
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: is going to be happening.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: What's it going to be? It's going to be.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: Bringing back matchmakers and clubs, social clubs that you join
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: to actually meet people in person.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: Okay. And stuff like that. Okay, because the apps have
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: just gotten so... Also.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: It's just not healthy for people's self-esteem.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, no, no, not at all. And I think it's.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: Healthy for a small amount of health.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: Because they said.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: I saw something where an average guy has to swipe
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: 60 times he gets that many rejections on the site.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: If he's average looking and not rich of girls rejecting him.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: To get somebody to hit match or whatever.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: And that's why, like, so many men are, like, fucked
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: up and sad. Because they're not getting what they want
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: out of online dating.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: Because if the app was gone and they just, like,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: had to, like, meet somebody at work without being accused
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: of sexual harassment. Or, like, in an actual place. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: Someone might fall in love with them.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: It's like the personality.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: They're not going to go on their phone later and
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: be like, but wait. this guy's coming to town tomorrow.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: He might be better than that guy I.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: Met at the Piggly Wiggly. Like there's just like, it's
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: like totally. Yeah, that totally makes sense. I think it's
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: just like a FOMO thing where I'm like, and I
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: also think I would have been really good at it. Like,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: don't you think you would have been really good at
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: the apps?
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: I think, I think yes. But then I think of that,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: that same thing. I think it's like, it's exactly what
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: Carol said about Ramona. One of the last seasons. She's like,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: Carol's the best. Carol was like, You know, I think
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: it was really fun for Ramona the first year being divorced.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: The second year not as fun.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: You're right. Like the first three months on the apps,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: like you would, I feel like, but like you'd be,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: I just remember how much fun it was to date. Yeah.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: Like it would just be like, what?
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: And then people say then they get the repeats.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: And then they're like, or they talk to their friend
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: and they're like, oh, that guy matched with me too.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: And then you're like, I thought I was special.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: It gets competitive. Yes.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. It's hard. Okay.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: I want to talk about this.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: One of your TikToks that you did about this mega
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: church that is being accused of forcing employees to give
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: 10% of their pay in, what do they call these things?
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: Tithe? Tithe.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: It's like 10%. Yeah. Mormon church asked you to do it.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: But this is actual.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: You work there? Explain. Yeah. So these people in this
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: lawsuit are saying, we worked for this church. It's called
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: Church Home. And it's, you know, one of those mega churches,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: like Hillsong or whatever. So anyway, they say, I worked
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: there and I was forced to give 10% of my
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: paycheck back to the church. So I think it just
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: automatically deducted. Wow. And if you didn't do that, you
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: could get fired. You could get in trouble. You could
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: get written up. And so.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: So they're suing or what are they doing?
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: So, yeah. So she's, so there's one, I think there's
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: multiple employees who are actually suing, but there's one woman
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: who's really come forward. But I think this is really common.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: I worked at a nonprofit.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: And you were really pushed to donate.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: How would they push you to do it?
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: So it would kick off like there was like a campaign.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: And they'd be like, you know, we strive for 100% participation.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: And it's, like once a week you would get an
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: email and you'd be like, okay, if there's, I'm just
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: gonna make this up. If there's 200 employees, 150 of
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: you have given.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: And then, then as weeks went by, it would get
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: smaller and smaller. And you could also get like a,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: you would get like a sticker that said I donated
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: and you would wear it on your, on your badge. Now,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: how much were you expected to donate? Any amount. Like
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: you could donate $ 5.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: Okay. And like, I think that's not true of all places.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: I think there is like a minimum, but as it
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: got lower and lower, the, I'm going to call it
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: the CEO would call people into his office and be like,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: why haven't you donated? And I think given that it
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: was like a really big organization. They wanted to say
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: they had a hundred percent, I guess.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: And I also think like when it's not like, well,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: you know, Annie, you know, you haven't donated. It would
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: be so nice. There's only three of us.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: Like it's like in a place with like thousands of employees. Right.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: Like to call someone into your office and you're the CEO. Yeah. No,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: it's horrible. That's a huge power dynamic.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: Right. Like, I mean, it's always a power dynamic.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: God forbid you start dating him. No, just kidding.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But like, I don't know that that's okay. And
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: so I actually had a job once where you had
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: to donate. And this is when I was in my
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: really early 20s. And like, I didn't have two dimes
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: to rub together. Yeah. There was a woman who would
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: do my donation for me. I know. Isn't that really nice?
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: That is nice. So I wouldn't get in trouble.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: My story is when I was at Chelsea lately, Barack
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: Obama was running and Michelle Obama was doing some event.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: I can't remember if it was the second time around
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: or if it was before.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: I can't.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: I think he was already the president and so he
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: was running again. And Michelle Obama was going to some
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: fancy dinner at some rich person's house in Brentwood and
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: It came to our attention. Chelsea wants the writers to go.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: And it's, like, $ 2, 500 for one table, $ 5, 000, and then, like, $ 10, 000.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: But it was going to be... We were going to
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: get the $ 2, 500 table. And I was just like, no.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: Like, no. And everyone's like.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: It's not like you were going as, like, a guest
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: of E, right?
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: Like, it's not like... No, no.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: E is behind the table, right?
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: No, we have to pay.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: And I.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: Just went right to her, right to her. Yeah. And
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: I said... Like, I would love to go. I've never
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: been to something like this. I'm super curious. But I
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: literally said I got 2,500 is half of the year
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: of my private Catholic school. So I am not going
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: to do this. And she goes, okay. And it was fine.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: And... But I was bummed to miss the night. Of course.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: I was doing stuff.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: Right. Oh, my God. Who doesn't want to get dressed up,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: go to have a chicken dinner?
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: I was curious.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm like, of course.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: It's going to be fun. You're going to see people.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: I wasn't politically against it. No. I just was like, no.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: So they go.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: And I remember certain of them that were super liberal,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: but they still didn't want to pay the $ 2, 500. But
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: they were like, we better go because we want to
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: stay in the good graces of everybody.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: Right. So they go. And- They're at, like, the back room.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: Of course you're going to think they're, like, in a
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: children's room. I don't know what. I used to seat
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: these events. You put those people in the way back.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: It's awful, but it's true.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: And Michelle, where you can get photos with Michelle and
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: talk to Michelle, is in this other room.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: And that's where Chelsea is.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And so.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: They're like, I go, so how was the event? Like,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: what did you wear? And they're like, oh my God,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: Chelsea didn't even see us. I don't even think that
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: she knew that we went. And so then when we
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: did After Lately, which was this show that we did
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: that was kind of like a curb. And we would
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: take all these incidences and then like rewrite them. So
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: we did a whole episode about going to an event
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: that Chelsea wanted us to go to and hoping to
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: be seen there. And I think in the scripted version,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: I did go.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: But like I, you know, and I'm wearing this gold
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: dress and I'm like running, trying to make sure that
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: she sees me, you know, that I get credit for going.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: But that was the closest I came to anything like that.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: But no, she wasn't going to make me, you know.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: But I was like, oh, there is that kind of
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: feeling of like, oh, you're not going to do this?
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: Especially when it's, you want to be in the good
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: graces of your bosses and look like, you know.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: So in a competitive world like that. Right. Right. But
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: the other thing, too, is like it's one thing for
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: someone to say, hey, do you want to come to
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: the like, you know, baby to baby gala? All the
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: money goes towards, you know, helping moms under resourced moms
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: get like strollers.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: Right. That's one thing. It's another thing to be like,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go to this campaign fundraiser and it
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: helps pay for like ads for Barack Obama. Like, I mean,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: politics aside, it's just kind of like.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: Or like someone invites you to a charity event and
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: they pay for the ticket, but they're hoping that like.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: You're going to write a check for a hundred bucks
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: or something.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: Or you're going to buy the vacation or the auction
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: item or whatever.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: But yeah. So amazing.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: Wait, I want to go back to just the Meghan
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: Markle stuff. Yeah.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: Let's do it. Okay.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: So Meghan Markle is this, oh, speaking of which, Meghan
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: Markle's foundation paid Michelle Obama's ex-press, PR person, nearly 110,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: from out of her nonprofit, the Archwell thing, which I
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: think that girl deserves the 110 because we've.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: Heard a lot about it. But they also said that they.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: Only worked, wait, they only worked one hour a week
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: on Archwell Foundation. Okay.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: So, I don't know.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: What do you think of her? Tell me what you think.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: Everyone knows what I think.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: You know, I mean, I like her. You know, I
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: like things about her. I like him. I think he's great.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: And I think that it's not an easy situation that
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: she's in. Right? Like, she's never going to win either way.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: But I do think, like, some of the stuff that
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: gets reported, like this, this is not that weird to me. As, like,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: someone who's been in the nonprofit world, I'm like, yeah, actually,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: that would make sense that they would say, what did
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: they say, one hour a week?
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: I almost feel like they're being honest. Yeah.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually do think they're being honest.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think a lot of people would say
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: an exaggerated number, and I think they were being straight
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: up honest. Yeah. Like, yeah, probably an hour maybe.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, think of all the time that they spend
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: doing the Netflix documentary. All of their... Like, that she
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: spends doing the podcast. That's where they really, I think,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: spend their time.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think they spend that much time on
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: the podcast.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: You don't think so?
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough. Well, yeah, I mean, it's no juicy scoop.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: Listen, the thing about podcasts is.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: With certain people.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: Once you've run out of all your friends to interview.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: And all your own personal stories, it gets really fucking
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: hard and people get over it. And if they're not,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: if the deal doesn't come again around for millions or
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: you are not getting the numbers or the ads, then
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: you stop doing it because you're like, It's a.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: Ton of work. People always say to me, start a podcast.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm not starting a podcast. I've thought about it.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: It's not going to work for me. It's just way
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: too much work.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, at least you are a knowledgeable person. If
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: you were to do it, great. But yeah, you're aware
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: of it. But I think when big stars do it,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: they get them to do it because they convince them
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: it's going to be nothing on their part. Here's the producer.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: Here's the sound guy. You lay on the bed.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: We come. We plug it in.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: And you're there talking to your dog. And you're like, okay.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: And that's all it's going to be. And they're like, okay.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: But even after a couple months, if they're a superstar
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: and they're getting people writing like shitty reviews or I
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: can't listen to anymore. I don't like you.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: Then they're like, I can't believe to their manager. I
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: can't believe you made me do this shitty thing.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: Do you think she's doing another season?
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: Everyone likes my bikini shots. Now people aren't liking hearing
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: me talk for an hour.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: Like, why did I do this?
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: It's a skill.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: Like, you have the skill, right? Like, you studied it.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: You've done years of it. It's totally different. And I
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: don't think, like, she's not a journalist. She's, you know,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: do you think she's going to have a second season
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: of it?
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: If they pay her enough, yes.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: And she's not going to be doing it out of
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: the goodness of her heart because she wasn't great at
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: it and she's run out of all of her stories. And,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: you know, we know that a lot of the stories
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: are not true. And you and I talked about this.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: The whole flexing, acting like, this new flex of where
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: people are pretending like they had it rougher than they did. Like,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: I'm like, if I was going to do that, I
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: would be like, you guys, you know, when I, when
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: my dad would take us to the beach, like we
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: packed our own cooler.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: Oh my God.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: No, we didn't, we never bought the food that was
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: offered at the beach. We did not belong to a
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: beach club. Yeah. We would go to Zuma.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: Who would carry your stuff?
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: We all had to carry it ourselves.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: And, um, sometimes there'd be a line to go into
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: the Zuma.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: Like a park, like.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: To park. Okay. And, um, and then it would be
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: like $ 6 and it would take like, 35 minutes. We
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: lived like 35 minutes from water in the valley.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: So you couldn't see?
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: I could not see the water from my house.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: But you, okay.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: So then we'd go to the beach.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: And like we had to do our own umbrella. Like
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you even know what that's like.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: No. Like I just thought, like how does it get
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: set up? I just thought they kind of like appeared. Yeah.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: No, you have to carry it and then you have
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: to like dig a hole.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: Okay. And then what about at the end of the day?
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, at the end of the day, we had
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: to pack it all up.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: And then we had so much sand on our bodies
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: that my dad would say, don't even go in the house.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: Walk around. So you go stay at like a hotel
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: or something.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: No, we go back. Drive the 35 minutes.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: Back to the house?
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: And then we would just have to jump in the pool.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: Like in the pool.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: And then there was no one waiting there to like
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: hand us a towel. No, there was nobody waiting there
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: to hand a towel. Like we had, my mom would
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: have to bring the towels out from like our cabinets.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: And you're okay now?
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: No, I just want people to know, like, I did
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: not have it easy.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: Like, I did not, like, I'm not this person. I'm
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: not Gwyneth Paltrow. I'm not, obviously, like, we're joking. But, like,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: that's what it's like.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: I feel like Megan's a.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: Little like that.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: I totally agree.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: Like, okay.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: So you weren't handed the job. You actually had to
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: drive to the audition. Isn't that what it is?
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 3: Okay. And also, I have to say, I didn't listen
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: to her podcast a lot. Now people will probably come
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: up and be like, she didn't even listen to the podcast.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: I tried to listen a couple of times and I'm, listen,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: I like her in a lot of ways, but that
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: podcast was a little painful.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because she's not, I think she's not an authentic person.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: And I don't think she has, she might've been like
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: in her twenties when she worked at Mirabelle with Chris Frangela.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: I think she might've been, but I think she created this,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: this storyline. I think she was one of those people that,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: sought out who she was going to marry. You were
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: saying that there's stuff that she's written about, about how
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: much she struggled when she was on Suits.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: Right. But she was married to, like, the super rich producer.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: And it doesn't mean that she hasn't had hard things
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: happen to her in her life. It doesn't mean that she, whatever.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: But I think she is strategic. And, like, good for
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: her because how else do you make it in this industry? Right.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: And it's a flex. It's like, that's what I'm saying.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: It's like a flex to say now, like, I didn't
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: have it easy.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: And it's just like, just shut up.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: Right. She had this one where she was like, I
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: guess the whole thing was like about being a relatable
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: mom or something, this episode. And so she was like,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: you know, we had a bunch of friends over to
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: swim in the pool. And this wasn't like your, this
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 3: wasn't your pearls day. It wasn't your perfect, you know, dresses.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: I'm like, no one thinks that. No one thinks that
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: your day is like, you know what I mean? Like,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: what do we think this is like an episode of
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: Mad Men? Like, this is not This is not what
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: people think. This isn't what people think Gwyneth Paltrow's pool
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: day is like. And she's like, and we got floats
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: off of Amazon. And, you know, and the pepperoni one
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: was more expensive than the regular cheese one. Like, you know,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: the pepperoni floats. I'm like, this is like, is this
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: what you guys think is funny? This is why I
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 3: can't have like the uber wealthy friend.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing. This is what I've said from the
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: very start. She and Harry are not funny. Okay. She
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: has no sense of humor. Fair enough. She's one of
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: those people that I think even if I was hanging
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: out with her, I don't even know if she would
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: like laugh at what I'm saying. I don't even know
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: if she gets. She's certainly not funny or maybe she
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: thinks she's. It's worse.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: I think she's funny in her group of friends, right?
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think she's funny. I think that she
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: thinks she's funny.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: And it's what she thinks is funny, like acting like
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: she's doing the curtsy and stuff like that. That's what
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: she thought was funny without thinking, like, a little bit
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: more to why that wouldn't be funny.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: And why you have curtsied and, like, you went to
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: an all-girls school. You went to a private college.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: Like, shut up. Yeah.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: Like, you're pretty normal. Like, you had a really nice life.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: Like, you had, like, a really– and that's why– but
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: I did– oh, I was on her side for not
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: wanting to fuck with her weird sister.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: Oh, of course.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: I was like, you don't need to be friends with
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: this person. She is so desperate. She wanted to be
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: an actress.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: I read the sister's book. Yeah.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: I'm happy that, um, that Megan won her defamation that, well,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: the sister was suing her and they sided with Megan
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: that what she said on Oprah saying that, you know,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: we didn't grow up together and my sister didn't even
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: go by Markle for a while.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: They couldn't prove that that wasn't true or is it
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: opinion piece, whatever.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: And, um, I'm all for people, um, that try to
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: say it was defamatory if it's not defamatory and they
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: should not be suing. Like I'm not for that. So like,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: I believe that, no, I don't think they were close.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: If she was born when the girl was 18, you
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: know what? They're not close.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: No, they're not. And you'd have to really make an
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: effort to get close. And the dad is weird. Like I,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: you know, the dad does seem really weird. And I
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: also think to her credit, like, I think it says
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: something that she has the nice half, not half, the niece. Yes.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 3: Like, So lean into that narrative, right? She has the
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: nice niece who she became, you know, who she's become
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: really close with.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: That I empathize with too. Totally. Because I don't talk
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: to my sister.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: So I do really adored my nieces and stuff. But there,
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: you know, there comes a time when if it's that
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: contentious and now put it on the largest scale. Right.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: And she said, how would it look if I invited you?
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: And not your weird sister. Right.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: And she's already doing unhinged things.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: It's going to look awful. Right?
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: Like, what will she do?
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: And I felt so bad for the sister. And I
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: felt bad for Megan because, of course, she wanted the
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: sister there.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, the niece. No, but they're, like, almost
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: the same age.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: But then the sister would be doing interviews and, you know,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: being annoying. Right. And aren't we friends? No, you're not.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: You're not my friend. I don't care what you say, sister.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: I don't care how much you do interviews saying... I
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: love you. I went to your graduation. I want to
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: be there for you.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: The sister doesn't like you, Megan. Yeah.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: Nothing would make the sister happier than if you and
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: Harry broke up. That would make the sister's fucking day.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: So she knows that about the sister.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: But he's so obsessed with her.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: He's so obsessed with her. Look at him in the
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: window there. My husband doesn't love me like that. No,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: me neither.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 3: But you called.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: However, though, it'll be interesting to see with being on
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: this stage and everything and where the podcast, how many
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: more Netflix talks. Like I've said, I don't think they're
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: going to have a reality show because they're not funny.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: Where is their happiness going to be together a few
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: years from now? I hope it lasts forever.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: What are they going to do? You mean?
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: I just think marriage is hard. And when you think
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: that you're married a prince and you realize that the
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: prince isn't particularly funny, he has one story to tell
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: and he's told it. And he's not a businessman.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: Right. He's not. Yep.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: What does he know about? He's not an entrepreneur.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: Has he started a car wash?
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: Like, no. No.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: Like, he doesn't know how to do business.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: And you have so much money.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: He doesn't know how to write movies. Right.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: He didn't go to film school.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: So like what, but people are going to give them
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: stuff until they realize that they actually aren't qualified to
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: do it.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: What would you suggest they do? Because you called that
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: they were going to move back to California. You called
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: that years ago.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: Thank you for recognizing. What do I think they're going
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: to do?
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: Or what should they do? Like what, what would you,
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: Heather McDonald, you give great advice. So hard. You told
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: them to move back here.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: You know what?
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: Or you suggested they move back here.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think they have to take a page out
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: of Tori and Dean's fifth season of their show when
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: they opened an end. Or be like Mary and Sisterwise.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: I think they need to open a bed and breakfast. Okay.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: In Santa Barbara.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: And she is the avocado toast whisperer. Look that up.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: There's an actual article that her friends say she makes
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: the best avocado toast. So that's what you can have
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: for breakfast. He will tell stories about when he was
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: at war and killed 25 people. And it's beautiful. And
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: you can feed the chickens. And that's what you do.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: I would go. Yeah. That sounds great. Yeah.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: And, you know, and she can tell fun stories about
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: how she struggled and how she had to make noodles
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: in college.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 3: Can I tell her dry bar story?
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's a dry bar story. Tell that. Okay.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: Okay, this is my... And, like, you know what? Two
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: things can be true. You can like things about her,
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: but you can also call this stuff out.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: But here, we got to talk about this story. So,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: she had this story, and I remember reading this. Like,
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 3: this was maybe right after they got married, and it
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: had been an article. Because if you look at what
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 3: she was like before... they, before she met him, she
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: was doing like the makeup tutorial with Bobby Brown. Like
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: she was, you know, she was getting around. So she
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: did this thing where she was talking about like how
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: grateful she was to get hired on suits. And so
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 3: she tells the story of auditioning for suits, which like,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: I guess like you're, you know, she's not super established
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 3: because she had to actually go audition. Right. Like if
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: you're somebody who's really high up, you don't have to audition.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: So anyway, she's like, you know, I had to go
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: to dry bar to get my hair blown out because
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: it's all I could afford.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: But I just want to say everybody has to audition
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: unless you are like a Reese Witherspoon. Like a really
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: big star. Okay.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: So she's like, I had to go to Dry Bar
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: because that's all I could afford.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: So she couldn't have an actual glam person come to
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: her house.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: I guess that's what it is.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: Can I also say, every audition I've ever gone on,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: I have never gone to a Dry Bar or paid
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: for glam. I remember I had a couple friends that
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: were starting to pay someone to come do their makeup.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: No, I did not. I also didn't book a lot,
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: but whatever.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: But I feel like for an audition, is that that
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: big of a deal to go to Dry Bar? I
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: feel like that's... No, no, it's not that big of
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: a deal. They have your headshot.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: No, it's not that big of a deal, but I'm
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: saying still, it's a flex.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 3: No, totally.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: You still put $ 50 into... With tip. With possibly not
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: making it, you know? Right. That's why it's like people
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: do a... Or you do a private acting session, which
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: is like $ 75 or $ 100, and you're like, fuck, do
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: I want to spend that money?
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 3: But if I get this job, it's worth it.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, so... So, yeah. There's that. So, yeah. Then she's like,
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 3: and I drove and I beat up. It was like
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 3: a Toyota Camry or Honda or something like that to
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: the audition. And you're like, OK, first of all, those
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: like my father would be like, well, that's a that's
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: a great car.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: I'm literally like going on a Warner Brothers lot and
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: it being like. Like a clown car.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: And so like, okay, all of those things can be true.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: But at the same time, you were already married to
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 3: that uber wealthy producer.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 3: And living in the house in Hancock Park. And like,
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 3: have you seen that house?
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: Like it's not Jewel who lived in her van with $ 11.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: Which even that could have just been like a long weekend.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: A little bit. I'm not really sure. Yeah.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 3: That can be a marketing thing. And so it's like
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: you were trying to sell this image of you. But
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 3: then if you go and you see that house- And
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 3: you see where it is. You're like, yeah.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: The house with the first husband. Yeah.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: Have you seen that house?
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 3: And I haven't, but I assume it's nice. It's like
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 3: Father of the Bride, but set closer to the street. Yes. Like,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 3: it's so gorgeous. Right. And if, yeah, maybe you have
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 3: an older Toyota because you guys are like, oh, you know,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 3: we're going to get a new car. Why don't you
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: just like, you know, finish this one out? But there
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 3: was nothing about your life.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: That was struggling right then financially. No, it's like someone
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: being like, I was a young mom and had two kids. Yeah.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: And we could not afford a Range Rover. I just
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: want you guys to know that. I had to get
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: a Lexus SUV instead.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: All my friends had Range Rovers.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 3: Custom. But I was.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: Like, you know what?
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 3: That's okay. That just wasn't in my cards. Yeah.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's what it's like. It's one thing if
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: she was like, I fucking took the RTD. Right.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 3: And there are people who audition like that. There are
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 3: people who are like, I didn't have a car. There
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: are people who are like, I used my last $ 50
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: to go to Drybar. But that wasn't your scenario. So
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 3: just acknowledge. I think what she needs to do is.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: I don't think anyone would spend their last $ 50 in Drybar. Probably.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 3: I hope not. I hope not.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: I would have at like $ 20. I mean, learn how
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: to do your own care.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: Fair enough. But I agree.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: I love Drybar, except for the movies they play.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: But I.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: You know, I get it.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 3: I think what she should do, though, is be like.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: I say.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 3: Open the inn.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: What do you think?
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 3: I think she needs to lean into more of, like,
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 3: this narrative of, like, okay, yeah, maybe I grew up, like, with,
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 3: you know, a little less than, like, you know, a
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: Gwyneth Paltrow. But, yeah, I was married before. And, like,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: talk about that. Like, that is interesting.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: Right, that's true. Let us know what made you... I mean,
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: but according to... you know, the ex or whatever. I
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: think it was that she was just looking for the
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: next best thing. That's why I do kind of think,
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: not wishing for any family to break up, that in
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: like five years, she will be with a like hot
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: Bill Gates.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 3: I have to say, I've always really liked him, but
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: like the more that I learn about him, the more
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my God, I would never want to
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 3: be married to him.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: Prince Harry. He's like, No, there's a lot, like there's
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: a turnoff. It's like anybody that marries someone and they
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: think there's an image of it. And if the love
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: is not strong enough and they start to see like, oh, wait,
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: you were held back in first grade? I didn't know that. Well,
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: I was. Okay, I'm just saying I didn't know that.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 3: Not that it matters.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: But I didn't know that.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: Then it's like, oh, you're afraid of that.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 5: This.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: Like, and then more and more things are like, I'm like,
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: that's just a straight up turnoff that I didn't know. Right.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: Because they were living a long distance with the prince popper,
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: everything she wanted.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: He's good looking.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: He had all his red hair.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 3: It's a lot. It seems like a lot. And I
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 3: used to say, best boyfriend. I always used to want
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: a boyfriend who lived in New York City when I
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 3: lived in Boston. I was like, that would be the
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: best boyfriend.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: Because you'd only have to see him like twice a month.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: You'd see him for like long weekends. I'd take the
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 3: train to New York.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: Right. He'd have a blast.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 3: And then I'd come home and be like, whatever. That's
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: what this was probably like. Yes. But you could do
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 3: it flying either private or, you know.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: And they talked about how hard that was.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah. That they had to figure out their calendars.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: And everyone's like, try being in a long-distance relationship where
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: you don't have the funds.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: To fly back and forth.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: To fly first class without planning it like, you know,
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: three months in advance. Right.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: To even get a coach seat. Yeah.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: Girl, you're the best. And tell everybody, I'm going to
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: go to you, tell everybody where they can follow you
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  Speaker 2: and get all your deep dives and all the stuff.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Thank you for having me. You can find
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: me at Meredith M. Lynch on TikTok and on Instagram.
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  Speaker 3: Just double clicking on it all.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Love it.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: The car is beautiful.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: Where did you end up going for it?
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 4: This exclusive place that Dada's connections with. they have more
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 4: cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 3: You have to put me in touch.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 4: What's it called?
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  Speaker 3: It's Dunaidial. Where? Dunaidial. There's an accent on the E.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: Do you mean.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 4: Yes, I got it on Dundale Cars.
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  Speaker 3: Lift? Please.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: Are you going past Kimmage? Oh, Kimmage.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 2: Dundale Cars.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 3: You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.