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The Way Home Season 1 Episode 2 Recap ‘Scar Tissue’ · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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  Speaker 1: Shut up rita link, don't stop stepping in rita. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: nobody needs rita.
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  Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome to Girls Gone Hallmark, a Hallmark review podcast.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Megan, I'm Wendy, and today we are recapping episode
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  Speaker 2: two of the brand new original series The Way Home
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  Speaker 2: on the Hallmark Channel. If you want to connect with
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  Speaker 1: are not going to spend a lot of time doing
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  Speaker 1: news and notes on these episodes like we do on
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  Speaker 1: our review episodes, but we wanted to touch base a
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  Speaker 1: little bit about the viewership of the debut of The
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  Speaker 1: Way Home. Yes, Hallmark Media put out a press release
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  Speaker 1: at The Way Home earned two point four million viewers
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  Speaker 1: for its debut night. Let's hear a synopsis for episode two,
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  Speaker 1: Episode two, entitled Scar Tissue, Kat is presented with a
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  Speaker 1: book deal that asks her to dredge up terrible memories.
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  Speaker 1: Dale wants to say goodbye to the past, while Alice
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  Speaker 1: yearns to return. There stars Annie McDowell, Kyler, Lee, Evan Williams,
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  Speaker 1: Sadie Laflame Snow.
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  Speaker 2: This episode opens right where episode one left off, and
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  Speaker 2: we know that Alice is still not home because Kat
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  Speaker 2: is trying to reach Alice via voicemail.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the same, It's basically the same scene we
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  Speaker 1: got last week. Right, She's leaving the same message we
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  Speaker 1: heard in the episode. She's frantic, and we cut to
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  Speaker 1: these scenes of the house is a complete disaster, which
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  Speaker 1: is no time has passed? How all this time to
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  Speaker 1: make all this mess as if she's been gone for weeks. Yes, yes,
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  Speaker 1: that's my biggest problem with this episode, and we'll talk
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  Speaker 1: about it in a little bit, but okay, yes, it's
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  Speaker 1: like she had just like the house is in such
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  Speaker 1: disarray all of a sudden, It's like, why is there
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  Speaker 1: a rotisserie chicken on the counter, Like you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean? It just is like, wasn't she was plucked
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  Speaker 1: out of like the house in the middle of dinner?
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  Speaker 1: It was weird. I thought that was kind of weird.
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  Speaker 2: I thought so too, And we see that Kats things
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  Speaker 2: are still in the banks of the pond, letting us
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  Speaker 2: know that.
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  Speaker 1: She has not returned. That's right. And then in the
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  Speaker 1: next scene we see Alice and Elliott. They are in
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  Speaker 1: the barn. We are in nineteen ninety nine. She wakes
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  Speaker 1: up and she's like, mom, so and this is all
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  Speaker 1: the while while the voicemail is plain, m so. Is
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  Speaker 1: she dreaming about this or she just yeah, wakes up
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  Speaker 1: in connection oh maybe, or does she just realize like,
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  Speaker 1: oh crap, oh crap, I'm still here in nineteen ninety nine. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she's gonna be freaked out, like you know when yes,
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  Speaker 1: fall asleep somewhere where you're not supposed to, and then
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  Speaker 1: you'll wake up and you're like, oh crap, I gotta
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  Speaker 1: get home. I gotta get that out of here. It
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  Speaker 1: was minutes ago, yes, exactly exactly. We cut back to
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  Speaker 1: the present day. Kat is driving, she's talking to Brady,
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  Speaker 1: and she's essentially having a panic attack. She's obviously, appears
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  Speaker 1: to me anyway, dredging up memories of Jacob. Jacob going
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  Speaker 1: missing and now Alice is missing. Obviously, things with Jacob
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  Speaker 1: going missing did not end well, so she's jumping to
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  Speaker 1: a lot of conclusions here, and in this scene is
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  Speaker 1: the first time that we hear that Jacob went missing,
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  Speaker 1: because she's like, I can't do this again. So so
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  Speaker 1: prior to this, we didn't know what happened to Jacob. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: we find a lot more about about Jacob's disappearance as
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  Speaker 1: it were in this episode. Right. And I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you noticed, but when Kat was driving, she stops
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  Speaker 1: and out the driver's side window is the White Cross
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  Speaker 1: memorial that is later visited by Dell and Alice. I
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  Speaker 1: did not Yes, I did watch this twice, so I'm
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  Speaker 1: the first time I watch. I watched for enjoyment and
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  Speaker 1: then I go back and I really like scour the scenes. Now.
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  Speaker 1: My question here at this point though, is why is
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  Speaker 1: nobody looking in the pond If you have a body
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  Speaker 1: of water on your property, it seems to me that
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  Speaker 1: would be the first place that someone would go if
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  Speaker 1: you are you talking about Jacob or Alice. Well, Alice,
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  Speaker 1: at this point, they can't find her, obviously, no one
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  Speaker 1: has been there because they would see her things on
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  Speaker 1: the bank of the pond. Oh that's true. Yeah, they're
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  Speaker 1: not like looking through woods for her yet. No, if
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  Speaker 1: I had a body of water and a missing child,
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  Speaker 1: that's where I would go. Yeah, well, I will say
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  Speaker 1: that in the scene, I do believe Kyler Lee's crying face,
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  Speaker 1: but when there's they close up on her, there are
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  Speaker 1: no tears. Well, but she's doing a nice job. I
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  Speaker 1: am worried along with her. I am definitely worried along
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  Speaker 1: with her. And later on, like she puts me on
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  Speaker 1: an emotional Burlla Coater, kyler leid as as cat. She's
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  Speaker 1: so angry all the time, all the time. I'm hoping
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  Speaker 1: there's resolution to the next day. See Dell is standing
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  Speaker 1: on a body of water. It's not pond. It doesn't
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  Speaker 1: look like pond that we are used to scene. No,
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  Speaker 1: she's a cocking cliff over an ocean, right, and she's
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  Speaker 1: on the phone to like a sheriff or something, and
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  Speaker 1: she has pained expression. And for me, this is the
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  Speaker 1: first time I see Dell show any kind of like
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  Speaker 1: emotion or expression or emoting any feeling other than kind
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  Speaker 1: of gruff Dale. You know, one hundred percent agree.
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  Speaker 2: And in the previous scene, right before it cut to
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  Speaker 2: this scene, Brady said, how's Dell, And Kat says, you know,
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  Speaker 2: she's convinced everything's going to be just fine. But we
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  Speaker 2: kind of get this peak behind the curtain when we
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  Speaker 2: get to this scene that she might be putting on
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  Speaker 2: a brave face to cat but is in fact pretty
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  Speaker 2: worried about this, to the point that she's called the
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  Speaker 2: police chief because she does say thanks Chief.
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  Speaker 1: Yes exactly. Cut back to nineteen ninety nine, we have
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  Speaker 1: young Elliott and Alice walking through the woods. Alice isn't
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  Speaker 1: quite sure to get back At this point, I was
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  Speaker 1: wondering why she didn't just jump into the pond the
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  Speaker 1: night before. If the pond got you here, it would
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  Speaker 1: stand to reason that the pond is going to get
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  Speaker 1: you back home. But now they've waited an entire night
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  Speaker 1: to figure this out. I don't know, are you fifteen?
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  Speaker 1: Are you going to jump into like a dark pond
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  Speaker 1: hoping that you get transported back to the present day.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's a good point. I decided the pond got
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  Speaker 1: you there. Jump back in the pond. Yeah, on top
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  Speaker 1: time machine man. This is the comedic highlight of this
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  Speaker 1: episode for me, because Alice is trying to convince Elliott
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  Speaker 1: that she is from the future and that he will
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  Speaker 1: help her and they will know each other in the
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  Speaker 1: future and she just has to get him on board now,
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  Speaker 1: and he says, fine, why don't you tell me something
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  Speaker 1: about the future, and his next line is there's no
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  Speaker 1: way that guy becomes president. Yeah, that was funny, right,
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  Speaker 1: well done. I was like, hmmm, I like you writers,
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  Speaker 1: that was really funny. And then basically right after that,
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  Speaker 1: he asks Alice like, basically if he is her dad
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  Speaker 1: in the future, and Alice is mortified. She's like, no, dude,
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  Speaker 1: you're my science teacher. Yeah, she's you know, So, up
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  Speaker 1: until this point, I didn't really realize that like Elliott
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  Speaker 1: and Kat as teenagers had like a thing with each other,
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  Speaker 1: or like a one sided crush. Maybe I think you're
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  Speaker 1: right about that second part. I think it's one sided,
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  Speaker 1: and I think later in this episod so we get
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  Speaker 1: more hints that it's one sided. My feeling about this
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  Speaker 1: relationship is that to Cat he was her best friend,
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  Speaker 1: and to Elliott, Cat was the one who got away.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm yeah, yeah, yea, yeah yeah. So Alice jumps
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  Speaker 1: back into the pond, hoping to return to the present,
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  Speaker 1: and Elliott jumps in after her, and he's keen out,
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  Speaker 1: where are you at? Where did you know, I think
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  Speaker 1: this is where he realized, so like, hey, this is
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  Speaker 1: some portal to the future, yeah, which must be super freaky.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 2: And we cut back to adult Elliot overlooking the farm.
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  Speaker 2: He sees Alice running home in her borrowed baby doll dress,
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  Speaker 2: and he's calm about it.
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  Speaker 1: It's cool. He's like, well, this is going the way
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  Speaker 1: that I imagine it's supposed to, and now he's seeing
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  Speaker 1: the beginnings of it from the future, right. It was weird.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard to wrap my brain around the timeline of
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  Speaker 2: how all this works.
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  Speaker 1: I agree. I agree. Sometimes I just have to like
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  Speaker 1: put it aside, like ask too many questions. Yeah, exactly exactly.
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  Speaker 1: So here we get the opening child the Way Home,
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  Speaker 1: but we have no opening music like we had last week. No,
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  Speaker 1: I'm kind of disappointed by that. I know, I was
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  Speaker 1: hoping for that little you know that song to come back.
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  Speaker 1: And a Cat returns home to a house that still
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  Speaker 1: appears empty, and I gotta say that, like slightly swinging
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  Speaker 1: porch swing, it just has like an eerie vibe to
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  Speaker 1: it when she's coming back home, And then we get
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  Speaker 1: a flashback to Cat and her dad sitting on the porch,
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  Speaker 1: saying her dad telling him will find Jacob and that
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  Speaker 1: a landry doesn't give up hope, a line that will
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  Speaker 1: carry some weight later in this episode, right right, right,
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  Speaker 1: So Kat heads back inside, she sees wet footprints on
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  Speaker 1: the floor. Alice and Kat are reunited, and Alice truly
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  Speaker 1: is like excited to see her mom. She's hoping like,
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  Speaker 1: just don't ask a million questions, It's okay, I'm back,
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  Speaker 1: and Kat is pissed. She you know, she wants an explanation.
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  Speaker 1: She wants to know where her kid was at. And
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  Speaker 1: now she basically assumes that Alice was trying to get
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  Speaker 1: back home to her dad. Right, but Alice doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: like a real explanation of where she's at, So so
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  Speaker 1: Kat's just smoke is coming out of her ears. Basically, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So Alice says, I'm so sorry, I was trying to
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  Speaker 1: get back home, and Kat misinterprets that.
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  Speaker 2: Now, there was a brief moment where Kat was more
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  Speaker 2: relieved than angry, and then once that passes and she
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  Speaker 2: realizes that Alice is whole in front of her, and
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  Speaker 2: she loses it. I gotta say, I can I can
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  Speaker 2: relate to that?
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  Speaker 1: Sure, Glad you're here now, don't ever do that again?
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  Speaker 1: Right exactly. The next thing, we see Dell at the
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  Speaker 1: table and she's relieved. She's relieved that Alice is home.
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  Speaker 1: She can hear Cat and Alice fighting in the background
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  Speaker 1: and you can see like the relief on her face.
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  Speaker 1: But as soon as Kat walks in, del fronts and
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  Speaker 1: is like, I told you everything will be okay. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The acting there is impeccable because you see her take
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  Speaker 1: this steadying breath. She's okay, and now she's like, oh no,
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  Speaker 1: I gotta be tough guy again. Yeah. I'm like, is
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: it too soon to talk about Emmy nominations for Andy mcdowells. O,
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: my goodness, what if it be such a win for
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  Speaker 1: Hallmark that he's so cool? What isn't it? I love it.
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  Speaker 2: In the previous scene, Alice was grounded and she's told
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  Speaker 2: she's only going to school and that's it. So we
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  Speaker 2: cut to Alice at school. She's going to school, even
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  Speaker 2: though she was missing all night and the kids were
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  Speaker 2: staring because not only is she the girl who pulled
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  Speaker 2: the fire alarm and apparently is rumored to have been
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  Speaker 2: an arsonist, but she's also the girl who ran away now,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, good news travels fast in that town. Bad
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  Speaker 2: news travels fast.
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  Speaker 1: Seriously, I mean, because I feel like we're only like
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  Speaker 1: one day the next day after she started school the
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  Speaker 1: day before. Yes, it's been two days, and this poor
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  Speaker 1: girl is yeah okay in good news. Though at school
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  Speaker 1: she does appear to have two friends, Spencer and Zoe,
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  Speaker 1: and I am looking forward to the role these two
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  Speaker 1: were going to play in her life. That's good. I
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  Speaker 1: think that's going to round out her character, Like, as
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  Speaker 1: a fifteen year old, you need other peers in her life.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, not just your mom and your grandma. Yeah, exactly,
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  Speaker 1: So that's going to be interesting how they incorporate them
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  Speaker 1: into the story. And then I think we already, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: here it is. I think we're already seeing a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of that because he shows Alice that picture of
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  Speaker 1: his of his mom and her mom as teenagers. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and you kind of see a softening in Alice's face.
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  Speaker 1: She's happy to see this. And I think in the
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  Speaker 1: earlier scene when she saw her mom and her mom
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  Speaker 1: was yelling, she said, what happened to you? Because she's
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  Speaker 1: seen this bright, happy teenager who was her peer in
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  Speaker 1: the past, and now her mom is angry and scared
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  Speaker 1: and tough right exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Cut back to the farm, Dell is talking with her
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  Speaker 2: friend Rita. They're canning honey, packaging honey from Dell's.
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  Speaker 1: Bees, and Rita's pissed.
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  Speaker 2: She's mad that d Alice ran away, and she thinks
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  Speaker 2: Dell is ignoring her feelings.
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  Speaker 1: And I gotta say, Rita, she's gonna have to earn
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  Speaker 1: my love. She doesn't take any shit, basically right. She
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  Speaker 1: tells Dell, like, if your kid is gonna mess up
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  Speaker 1: all the good work that you've done to yourself, like
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  Speaker 1: she's gonna have to answer to me, you know, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And I wonder okay. According to Rita, Delle has done
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  Speaker 1: some healing. From an outsider's perspective, it feels like.
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  Speaker 2: Dell's healing is ignoring the past. Now we come to
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  Speaker 2: find out she has taken some concrete steps to provide
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  Speaker 2: herself closure. But I think there's a lot of healing
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  Speaker 2: that still needs to be done based on certain things
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  Speaker 2: at the house, the way Jacob and Colton have been erased.
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  Speaker 1: From the house. But also doesn't Dell need to do
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  Speaker 1: some healing of her relationship with her daughter because m hmmm,
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  Speaker 1: Kat experienced this too. I don't think they can heal
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  Speaker 1: in like two parallel lines. At some point those two
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  Speaker 1: things need to cross. Yeah, I agree, this was a
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  Speaker 1: little this whole scene here with the friend talking about
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  Speaker 1: the healing that Dale has already done. It was different
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  Speaker 1: than what we saw in episode one. And I feel
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  Speaker 1: like the Dell that we got in episode one was
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  Speaker 1: like real tough end, you know what I mean. And
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  Speaker 1: so now we have Adele who's on her path of
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  Speaker 1: healing from you. The timing is like weird for me,
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  Speaker 1: But I think the difference here is that the Dell
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  Speaker 1: we saw in episode one we really only saw her
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  Speaker 1: in relationship to and Alice, who she has this wall
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  Speaker 1: up to protect herself from the past and those ceilings.
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  Speaker 1: And this Dell is with her friend who has experienced
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  Speaker 1: the past twenty years with her and knows more. And
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  Speaker 1: I think this is more the real Dell in this moment. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: And at the end, Rita alludes.
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  Speaker 2: To something happening this weekend. We don't know what it
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  Speaker 2: is going to be yet. Right last week, I think
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  Speaker 2: it was assumed that it was a foregone conclusion that
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  Speaker 2: Elliott had sent the letter. But I think this scene
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  Speaker 2: cements that it is still a mystery that remains to
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  Speaker 2: be solved.
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  Speaker 1: Because Dell accuses Rita of sending the letter, Rita insists
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  Speaker 1: she doesn't. They bring up the letter multiple times throughout
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  Speaker 1: the episode, and no one has claimed ownership for the
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  Speaker 1: sending up the letter at this point. Right, I have
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  Speaker 1: some comments on that later on. Okay, okay. The next scene,
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  Speaker 1: we have Kat in her bedroom looking at an old
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  Speaker 1: photo of her nineteen ninety nine Alice. It's that polaroid
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  Speaker 1: that her brother had taken, and her ex calls and
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  Speaker 1: he wants to know, like what the status of Alice is,
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  Speaker 1: and she's like, oh shit, I forgot to call you. Yeah, Wow,
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  Speaker 1: she's home, she's back at school. It's all good, Like
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  Speaker 1: we're we're all good here, you know. I thought that
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  Speaker 1: was kind of funny. I thought it was funny too,
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  Speaker 1: But I think Brady handles this better than I would. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but then if you me in the loop, if she's missing,
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  Speaker 1: I'm over here freaking out, you need to. I agree.
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  Speaker 1: But he's kind of an idiot to me a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: So he deserved it. I don't want to say he
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  Speaker 1: deserved it, but like, I don't know if he's so
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  Speaker 1: concerned he needs to come out there and start looking
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  Speaker 1: for Alice himself, you know what I mean? Yep, good point.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, he's still sitting in his office, so he's not
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  Speaker 2: that worried about it.
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  Speaker 1: Rick.
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  Speaker 2: Kat does offer to come home because it's not working.
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  Speaker 2: And again, I remind you, it's.
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  Speaker 1: Been two days. Change takes time. I wrote that to quote,
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  Speaker 1: it's not working. It's been too day, right, Like it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna take a minute, jeez, Louise people. And Brady has
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  Speaker 1: an idea. He has a proposition.
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  Speaker 2: There's a publishing house that wants Kat to write her
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  Speaker 2: family story. And I already know Dell is not going
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  Speaker 2: to like this information, right, and this is funny. He says,
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  Speaker 2: like the publisher's looking or likes cold cases, true crime,
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  Speaker 2: family saga, and I'm like, cold cases, true crime?
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  Speaker 1: What are we getting into here with Jacob? You know?
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  Speaker 1: And Cat seems to think there's some sort of ulterior
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  Speaker 1: motive here. She's not really into Brady helping her out.
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  Speaker 1: She says, you're with Rachel. I can find my own
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  Speaker 1: book deals. Cat, clearly you cannot take the help where
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  Speaker 1: you can get it. It has only been less than
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  Speaker 1: twenty four hours. That she started looking for a book
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  Speaker 1: deal though, So this is true, this is true what
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  Speaker 1: I did? Right? How's that working out for you? Kat?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, keep your options open exactly.
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  Speaker 2: They fade out on the ceiling with the glow in
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  Speaker 2: the dark stars.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: The next scene is maybe one of my favorite scenes. Yes,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Alice barges into the teacher's lounge and she says, we
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: need to talk about last night, and Elliott turns around
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: and the expression on his face and the teachers behind
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: him was so awesome. Yeah, that was great comedic timing.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: And then cut to a commercial break. We come back
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: and he's like, do you know what that looked like?
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: And then says, let's talk with this door very wide open.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: That was so funny. It was I get that, like
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: a teacher student relationship is not funny, but I just
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: thought that it was funny. I I yes, knowing that
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: it's all innocent, it is funny and hot. Damn.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: In this scene, I gotta say, Elliott also a wowie's howie.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, welcome to the Club's what's his name? His name
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: is Evan Williams. Okay, welcome to the club, Evan, And
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: they danced around her recent time travel there's a do
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: you know what I know that you know? And they
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: finally realized that she knows, and then she goes. Alice
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: has a realization that the her mom's childhood to Alice
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: is who Alice is named after, and she's like, she
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: named me after me. Yeah, that's funny. And this is
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: where my brain twists again, me too, same too, because
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Ellie continues to tell like, oh, well, memories and it
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: was kind of confusing, like the explanation that he told
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: her on why Cat can't remember Alice.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he says, memories are mercurial, your brain remembers what
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: it needs to remember. Or this is just a convenient
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: way to explain away time travel and the fact that
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: she is visiting her own mother.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: And during this whole conversation, he says to her, time
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: travel only works for you, but he doesn't know why.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: So is this a clue that Dell is not the
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: woman in the opening scene of last week's Remember where
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: there was some theories that maybe Dell was the time
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: travel or two. But I think it had to have
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: been Alice in that opening scene back in eighteen what
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: I originally speculated that it was Alice. Yes, further thinking
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: I thought it could be Dell.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Some one of these women is potentially the White Witch.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: But we also know that when he says time travel
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: only works for you, we know that he hasn't tested
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: it with everybody, but he knows that it doesn't work
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: for him. True, So it's possible that Dell time traveled
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: and just hasn't shared this information with mister Augustine.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: That's true. I don't think we know everything, but we
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: do know that time while she's gone and time when
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: she is away they move at the same pace. So
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: if she's gone for eight hours, she is gone for
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: eight hours, So she needs to be smart about when
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: she time travels. Yeah, that's gonna be interesting, right, or
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: she I'm in the library for the next six hours,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: I'll see you later. Like, how is she going to
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: explain away her where she's at in present day? Right?
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: And she's she only going to time travel at night
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: when she should be sleeping.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: This is going to be complicated.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: And then she tells Ellie that she met Jacob and
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: you can see in Elliott's face that this affects him.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: This is more than just traveling back to meet your
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: mother to understand her who as she is as a human,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: which I think is a really compelling story. You have
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: an uncle who didn't live past age nine, and you
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: have a grandfather, and nobody talks about what happened to Jacob,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: and nobody talks about what happened to Colton, and there's
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: a lot of grief wrapped up in those two, so
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: kind of getting into the thick of it.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Cut back to Cat going through the Jacob box and
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: she finds a notebook with what is their superhero logo?
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Essentially right, I mean, basically she's just having these memories
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: of Jacob and their life together. But Deale walks in
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: and Delle doesn't want anything to do with it, and
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: she tells Kat again she's basically kind of accusatory to Cat,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: I believe, which makes me wonder like at this point,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I'm like, did Cat have something to do with him
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: going missing? Or like, what is the anger with Cat? Well,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: in doubt, we do know something a little bit more
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: about that a little bit later than this episode, right,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: But you know, Delle just wants to spend it right
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: back on Cat. She wants to talk about Cat. She
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: does not want to talk about Jacob. She doesn't think
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Cat is meeting her halfway again. It has been two days.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: She doesn't have her life back together, she doesn't have
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: a job. Give her a minute. Everybody needs to just chill.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: But Delle says, if you're gonna be here, might as
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: well make yourself useful, and then Dell feeds her to
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: the wolves. Okay, so yes, we see Kat goes to
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: the point, I believe, and she walks in and she
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: sees Monica, who is her school rival. Basically lost, there
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: are we to believe that Monica, the school rival at
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: the point, is the mom of Spencer at school Alice's friend,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: so I.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Don't think this is fully made clear in the episode. However,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: on imb their character's last names are both Hill, so
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: I believe the answer to that question is yes, Monica
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: is friend Spencer's mother.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: And Okay, I have a question. They were friends at
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: one point, right, they were friends at one point. Now,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: in that conversation with Kat, she says that she married
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: like some dude they used to make fun of. Right,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: do you remember that guy's name, Trevor Hill? Okay, and
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Kat calls him Spilsky and she's making fun of him,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: only to find out in the probably most overused Comedia
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: troupe of all time. The guy she's making fun of
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: is Monica's husband. Yeah, I married him, Okay, all right,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: So Monica's super bitchy, And basically it looks like Delle
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: had set up this interview and Kat had walked into
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: it and did not realize that she was interviewing for
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: a job at the point. And once she does realize that,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: she's like, oh, no, I don't need a job, I
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: got a book deal. She's obviously lying about because she
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: didn't want to take that from her ex, so you know,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: she just wants to get this chick off her jock
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: basically says that I have a book deal. Get away.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: It struck me because Monica makes a snydermark about Cat
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: being in a rush to get out of poor and
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: it feels like, as is often the case, those who
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: are left behind in a small town made me feel
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: like those who left felt like they weren't good enough
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: for them. And I think Monica is getting a little
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: bit revenge because no Cat's back and the big city
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: did not work out so well for her. Yeah, but
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: this is what's so funny, is like, if you came
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: across somebody that you were high school friends, with would
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: you be like a super bitch at them, I'd be like, oh,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I guess your life didn't work out. No, you're like
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: an adult now. You would be empathetic and like, oh, well,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: it's nice that you're back, and like, I hope everything's
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: working out for you. Great. Bye, you know, let's put
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: it behind us. So the next thing we have, we're
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: at dinner, at the dinner table at the Landry House.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: And to me, Della is a bit softer to Alice Hm.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Cat is angry, and I wrote, she's so angry. If
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: you guys watch Bravo, and I'm sure you've seen this
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: scene where Lisa Renna is yelling so angry, You're so angry.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: This is what I hear in my head when I'm
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: watching Cat. I'm like, she's so angry. The woman is
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: pissed off at everything, every scenario that's happening, like so unhappy.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Well Dale thinks Kat is being too hard on Alice,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: grounding her. I am sorry, the girl ran away. Kat
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: does not know that she time traveled. She just thinks
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: she ran away.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: So she's pissed and she's grounded. That's reasonable to me.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Could you support me a little bit here mom, instead
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: of being like, come on, kids need to get out
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: and do things right.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Right. So at the table, Kat tells the family about
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: the potential book deal she has to write her family
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: story about Jacob and dal I'm not so happy about it,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: not happy about it at all.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: And this is the point Alice wants to know what
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: happened to Jacob and Kat says it's not the right time,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: and Alice.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Shoots back, but it's the right time to write a
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: tell all, Like you can tell the world, but you
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: can't tell me. Yeah, this is so weird to me
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: because like I feel if I grew up and had
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: a younger sibling who died tragically or went missing, I
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: think my teenage child would probably know about it. Like
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I feel like I wouldn't want to keep a secret
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: like that for so long. No, and she knows he's gone.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: So the point at which she's asking about it is
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: the point you say, yeah, this is the hard conversation
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: we need to have, not ooh, sh it's a secret.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: So Alice, you know, she's fed up with Dell and
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Kat like not getting along, and she criticized them, and
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: she says, what happened to you too? Because you know,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: obviously Alice has seen Cat and Dell in nineteen ninety
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: nine and saw that they got along and it was
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: a happy family, and she's now asking like, what happened
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: between you two? And Delle says, that's a damn good question,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: and Kat responds, well, I think we know why we
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: don't get along, and Dell then fires back, but we
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: don't want the world to know, so don't write that book,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: which is weird, Like it is weird? What is all that? A? Also,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I feel like Dell's not taking any ownership for her
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: part in this because we don't know yet, yes, exactly
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: why Dell is angry at Cat, although I have my
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: suspicions later in this episode, but Dell was the parent
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: in the situation and Kat was also a child in
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: that situation. Yeah, so at some point Dell needs to
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: take some responsibility. Yeah, exactly.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: We cut to Elliott and Kat having a glass of
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: wine in the barn and there's a little moment that
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Elliott wants to mean something and Kat is just trying
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: to find some comfort in her old friend. She rests
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: her head on his shoulder, and Elliott's face is clearly
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: like ooh, but She tells Elliott she found a photo
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: of her friend Alice, and she says she now seems
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: more like an energy than a person to her. Yeah,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: because of course her brain's not going to allow her
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: to remember that this person is exactly like her own daughter.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Right right. She also says during this conversation, she's like,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Alice was there all summer and into the fall, and
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: so it gives us a little bit of like time
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: frame that we're working with before Jacob goes missing. Yes,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: you know, good point.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: The next thing, we see Alice googling Jacob Landry, but we.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Do not get the results of that Google search. You
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: know that internet doesn't work at their house. It does not,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: and that works in Dell's favor, I think. And Alice
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: gets a phone call and she's still mad. She's still
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: mad that he hasn't asked her to come home, and
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: he says she's welcome anytime. And this is kind of
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: confusing to me, because what is the custody arrangement here,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Like she's just gonna take off. We haven't set up
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: a plan for when she's gonna come home and visit.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Alice doesn't seem to want to be in the same
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: house as girlfriend Rachel, and she rushes him off the phone.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: It makes me wonder about Rachel, Like Rachel is mentioned
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: so much, hope, like Rachel was a friend of Kat
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: or something. I mean, that's obviously a terrible storyline for Kat,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: but she's just mentioned so often for a character we've
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: never seen or know anything about.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Well, I will tell you there is no character named
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Rachel listed on the IMDb page for this show, and
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: there are characters who we have not met yet on
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: this IMDb page. So leads me to believe we may
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: not ever meet her.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, Alice takes off, She runs back down
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: to the pond, jumps in, and nothing happens. And I wrote,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: could you please wait until your mother goes asleep this time?
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Learn from your mistake, you know, because Kat didn't? Katy
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: like where' she go again? Yeah? Like come on, yeah,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: think ahead, you got a plan ahead, Alice. We have
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Alice knocking on the door of Elliott's pretty stone house
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: to ask him why it didn't work, and we find
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: out the pond works in mysterious ways. So it's not
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: just whenever you want to time travel, the pond has
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: to want it to. So here is my noticed in
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: the nineties and Megan, I don't know if you if
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: you caught it or not. Okay, okay, So Elliott and
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Alice they're talking, right, and he's she's asking him all
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: the questions, like well, tell me why the pond doesn't work,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: and like you're supposed to be my guru or something.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Give a guy a little time to be the Giles
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: to your Buffy. All right? Oh, nice catch, And Alice
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: goes the who to my what and elliott response response,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I cry for gen Z. And this is the best
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: line in the entire show for me because I was
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: a huge Buffy the Vampire Slayer fan, and Giles was
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: like he was the know all, like that's who she
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: went to for all the information, just like Alice is
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: going to Elliott for all the information. I just thought
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: that was so awesome. And that's a great catch because
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: we don't really spend any time in the nineties in
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: this episode, so there's not a lot else to go on.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: So that is impressive. Thank you so much. I gotta
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: say I laughed out loud when I heard it. I'm
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: so glad. Well, we cut to the next morning in
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: this episode and Dell hands Alice a box of jars
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: of honey, and I'm like, well, she's supposed to do
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: with that. But then we see in the next scene
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: they're in a farmer's market and I had to tell you,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Dell at the farmers market is not the picture I
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: had of this woman, who so far has been angry
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: and crabby. M hmm. Totally a different person, right, totally
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: different person. We see her friend Rita sells beechy Chotchki's
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: wooden beach signs like beach this way and Sandy To's
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: full Heart.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: All you need to know is wooden beach signs. And
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: I think everybody can conjure up in their mind what
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: she sells, and honestly, it's the perfect characterization for her
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: in my mind, like who she is.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I love it. We also meet Byron at this point,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: and Delle's quite flirty with him, and Alice recognizes it.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Byron is the local newspaper archive guy. Yeah, and that's
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: all we had about Byron so far, so far. Yeah,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: I said, Byron's a little bit of a silver fox.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: And we get a flashback. We see Dell kind of
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: touching her hair and Alice has a flashback of Dell
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: in that moment doing the same thing at the dinner table,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: looking at Colton. So in case we weren't totally clear
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: that this man might be a potential love interest of Dell's,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: now we know. We also find out something a little
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: bit about the community here. Rita teases a Byron that
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: he's a newcomer, and he's like, I've lived here for
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: six years. So this is a community that is rooted
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: in its roots. You're still a newbie even though you've
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: lived there almost a decade, yes, right, right, right.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: We have Kat going into Alice's bedroom. Dell has left
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: her a note, but you know, Kat's kind of having
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: a moment. She opens up the Alice in Wonderland book.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: There's a line that's a little reminiscent of.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Time travel in there, and you know, I Ket just
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: seems a little bit lost, like what am I supposed
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: to do with this kid? She sees the note from Dell,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: and now she's off to the races and pissed again. Okay,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: so let me stop you there. The note. I don't
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: know if you noticed, but it is on the same
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: paper and has the same handwriting as the letter that
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Cat received. Well, Dell says she wrote the letter. Later on,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: we get that she just didn't send it. Okay, Well,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: this is like a continuity issue for me, Like that
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: does not look like something a fifteen year old would
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: have written. No, I thought the note was signed from Dell.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: I know, I think it was from Alice. Oh, you're right,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: it's signed Alice. Okay, I take it back, But I
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: feel like the whole the writing and everything looks like
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: the the letter that was sent to Cat. But maybe
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: it doesn't. They needed to have two separate PA's write
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: these letters. Perhaps perhaps Okay, Again, Cat's pissed that Alice
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: is in this park because we have flashbacks to Cat
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: and her father handing out flyers looking for Jacob in
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: this very same park. Now, Kat, you came home.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Are you going to avoid every place that has a memory.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Of your missing brother for you? I'm not really sure
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: that this farmer's market in broad daylight is a terrible
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: place to take her, right. I know, it's so weird
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: to me because like she's pissed about certain things. Delle's
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: pissed about certain things like can you too please get
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: into a therapist's office asap? Because right, everybody need is
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: to work out. Yeah, like Alice is the most well
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: adjusted of all of you. Seriously, Rita says they all
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: need closure. Alice asked what happens? Rita won't tell her.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Then shut up, Rita like, don't stop stepping in, Rita, Yeah,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: nobody needs you. Yeah. Agree, And we are still arguing
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: about the origins of the letter here. Yeah, exactly all right.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: So in the next scene, Alice takes off and she's
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: got she has this bright idea that she's gonna look
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: in the newspaper archive and I'm gonna tell you, my
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: fifteen year old but not know how to work a microfiche.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know how Alice figures it out to look
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: through all these newspapers totally.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Also like we haven't digitized our nineteen ninety nine newspaper,
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Like they're.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Still on microfich. I don't know. Is that still how
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: newspapers are archived? I don't know, but I agree, my
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: fifteen year old'll be like, is not on Google? Doesn't
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: exist exactly? And then like kind of at the same time,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: we see Cat shows up at the cemetery and she
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: sees Danny, who's a groundskeeper, and I'm like, who's Danny? Like,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: why are we introducing Danny here? She knows Danny from
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: her past, but we don't know anything about him. We
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: don't find anything out about Danny, but I will tell
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: you he's played by Pace and Rock And there is
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: an actor named Bathan Hoffman on IMDb who plays young Danny.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: So we apparently are going to meet Danny in the
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: past as well. Awesome. I thought Danny might be a
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: friend of Jacob's. Oh interest speculation? Oh interesting, because I
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: think I thought Danny looked like the groundskeeper. But was
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Danny putting the flowers on the grave?
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Well, he was certainly having a moment at the grave.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: It seemed like what we find out later in this scene.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: And the age of the actor who plays young Danny again,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: all of this leaves me to believe we're dealing with
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: a childhood friend of Jacob's.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Got it, got it, good catch, m good catch. Yes.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: In this scene, Kat's talking to her her dad's gravesite,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: but then like moves the flowers and sees that now
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: her brother's name is on the tombstone with her dad's name,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: and she realizes that her mom has legally declared Jacob dead. Okay,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: I have a question for you. Yeah, she's pissed. It's
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: been twenty years.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Is it reasonable to bring some closure to this moment?
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I feel like it is. I agree with you. I
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: agree with you that the healthy move on Dell's part,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: and it's not saying I've given up hope for my son,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: but at some point we need to celebrate his life. HM. Exactly, exactly, Okay, thanks, Okay.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: We cut back to Alice looking at the microfusion. There's
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: a newspaper article that says, basically, the kat was there
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: with Jacob.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: He was there one minute and gone the next. Now,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: I tell you, I paused my TV and read the
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: entire article. I took a photo of it as well,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: because the first, the first newspaper article she's looking at,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: it's a photo of Jacob and a Ferris wheel and
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: it says, you know, like local bowl boy goes missing,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Please have no leads. And then to the next image
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: she goes to you, it's like a full article. Now,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: did you read the article just that line that I
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: read to you? No? I didn't. Okay. So it goes
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: on to talk about two twins. Now, I'm like, was
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: this just filler in this article for TV? Purposes to
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: look because I'm like, well, how did these two things
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: go together? I don't understand, but they have. They also
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: have an interview with the police detective who talks about
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: how nobody has gone missing in Port Haven since the sixties.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: And yeah, it's very interesting. It brings up lots of questions.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: So I say, if you are looking for a rewatch,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: pause your big ass TV on this scene here and
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: read this article and let's talk about it, okay. And
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: this is the moment that leads me to believe that
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: all of Dell's anger at Cat is a perhaps placing
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: blame on Cat for Jacob's disappearance. Whether she's doing it
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: intentionally or not, she's blamed Cat, yes, and think about
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: the guilt that Cat has been carrying around for twenty
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: years about this, you know, And then to have Dell
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: pile it on even more is like whoa And this
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: is a lot.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: I think Elle needs to take some responsibility here because again,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Kat was a child.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Yes, she was fifteen years old. Yes she was perhaps
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: responsible for Jacob in that moment, we don't know, But
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: again she was a child and is carrying the weight
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: of that herself, as you said, and somebody needs to
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: relieve her of this weight and this burden, because there's
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: a lot we don't know, but I think we do
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: know that Kat wasn't directly responsible for the disappearance of
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: her brother. Dell then shows up at the newspaper and
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: she says that it's.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Time to go, and Dell is not going to be
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: doing the hair touch for Byron anytime soon.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: I well, why, I think Byron did her a solid
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: to tell her that she was there, that Alice was
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: there looking at that way. You think that he was
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: the one who told her. Oh yeah, I think so. Ah, Okay,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: I definitely think so. But again, it's like, what is
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: the big friggin secret? Like, right, let Alice discover what
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: the hell happened? Like, why are we keeping her in
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: the dark? Yeah, she's fifteen years old, geez, let's please
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: somebody act like a I'm finding myself a little frustrated
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: with that part of the storyline.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it is frustrating. It is silly to think
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: that you're going to bring this girl back home and
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: not have her ask questions and think you can put
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: off her questions for eternity.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, it's weird.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Dell and Alice drive home. Alice apologizes, and Dell pulls
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: up alongside the previously mentioned White Cross.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: That mark's where Colton died in a car accident. We
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: come to find out three months after Jacob disappeared, and
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: here comes another win of a line from Alice for me.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: Delle says she lost her whole world in that moment,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: and Alice says.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Your whole world except for my mom. Again, get your
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: shit together, Dell, you have another child. Yeah, yeah, it's complicated, man,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: That's what this show should have been called. It's complicated.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: So now we have Alice at home, Dell and Cat
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: are arguing about Dell declaring Jacob dead, and Delle says
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: that finally she wrote the letter that was never unclear
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: to me. I always knew she wrote it, She just
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: claimed she didn't send it. Okay, So who sent the
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: freaking letter? Then we don't know. It's an untry, another
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: another storyline that to me could have been buttoned up
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: by now unless there's bigger ramifications. Right exactly exactly? But
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: am I to believe that she wrote the letter because
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: there was an upcoming memorial for Jacob and she wanted
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Kat to be there. She says, this is why I
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: wrote the letter to you, So yes, I believe that
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: is what we are to believe in that moment, and
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: that's when she tells Kat that there is a memorial
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: for Jacob tomorrow. And Cat's pissed about the memorial because
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: it will come on celebrate your brother's life. I know.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: There's just so many like weird things here because at
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: some point, Dell's very much like does not want to
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: open the book to talking about Jacob, but I want
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: to have a memorial for him, which is counter to
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: what it is. Yeah, it's just is sad. What's happening?
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Dell's mad that Cat hasn't been there, but Kat says,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Dell wouldn't let her be there. Look, Dell, you again,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: everybody needs therapy here. Why would Cat come home when
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: this is what she would be coming home too, Yeah, exactly,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: and she begs Kat leave it alone and let her
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: close the book.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Y'all we need some resolution in this show. Yeah, at
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: least with this part, right, Yes, Elliot finds Kat in
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: the barn that apparently has killer cell signal, which okay,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: and they talk about Jacob's memorial and Elliott is the
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: voice of reason here saying, you know, you got your
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: fresh start, doesn't your mom deserve one? Right, however, so
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Kat got her fresh start because she bounced. Yeah, And
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: in here we found out that Elliott was once married
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: as well. Well we knew that in the first episode.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Oh because Dell's oh divorce. Yeah, that's right, that's right.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: He like he started back over, he has his fresh
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: start coming back to Porthaven. Is that right? I thought
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: that's that's what was mentioned. He said, like, my I
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: had never really left. I had one foot in whatever.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: I was always coming back. Yeah, exactly, Well, he was
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: always coming back because he knew Alice was going to
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: be coming back, right indeed, And that's a great point.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: That's a great point. He knew we had to come back.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: But you know, this is where it all gets kind
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: of muddy, because we flashed back to the first episode
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: where Elliott sees adult Elliott sees teenage Alice for the
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: first time, and he has kind of a reaction. And
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: I wonder if he didn't know obviously because it hadn't
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: happened yet when he was going to meet her for
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: the first time. So was he always trying to get
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: back knowing that at some point in the future he
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: was going to be needed, or did Alice clue him
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: in at some point to when he would be needed,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: see what I'm saying, Like, yeah, I did see what
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: you're saying. I gotta get back because Alice is coming,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: but I don't know when Alice is coming or did
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: he kind of know? Okay, well she's fifteen, so it's
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: got to be happening soon. Yeah, a lot of good questions,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: and we learned that which we kind of already knew.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Kat is mostly upset because she wasn't able to protect Jacob.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: It was not just about his disappearance because but she
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: feels responsible.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: She tells us h yeah, right. Kat finds Alice in
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: the kitchen. Alice knows about the memorial, and Alice says,
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: I want to stay. Thanks for being willing to leave, mom,
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: But let's try this for more than forty eight hours.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly. So we next see Dall's putting on
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: her wedding ring. She's remembering moments with Jacob. She's obviously pained.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: She looks very unhappy or I mean not unhappy, but
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: she's grieving. Right, So we have Alice on the couch
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: The next morning. Cat approaches and it's clear that they're
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: dressed for memorial, heading out for that, and Alice has
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: found the Landry family Almanac. Cat tells her, you know,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: that's where our history is recorded. Mm hm, which is
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: kind of cool. It is cool. I don't have anything
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: like that. That's kind of and you know, considering how
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: old it is, it's just sitting there on the table
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: like the daveil. That's what I was gonna say. It's
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: like the veil that doesn't crumble. Yeah. Yeah, it's in
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: remarkably good condition for being hundreds of years old. M hm.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: So we get to Jacob's memorial. There's just five of them.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: I was expecting more townspeople, I guess or something. And
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: we get some background actors. These people have lived here
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: forever something. It's Rita and and Elliott and yeah, and
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: a blue balloon and a balloon and I thought, listener,
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Michelle is losing her damn mind if they're gonna put
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: this balloon into the sky, right, Yeah, the environmental implications
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: of a balloon release are no good. But we never
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: really it did go up, but like we never did
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: see it like fly away like far so hopefully it
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: was just a stunt, you know, and it's raining because
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: of course, oh sorry, And that's the other thing. Do
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: balloons Will they fly away if it's raining. I don't
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: think so. I think they hover around the ground because
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: the brain is coming down on them. Right, great question,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: great question. I don't know. This whole scene was like
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: really emotional. I thought, like Delle talking about her boy
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: and how he was just full of love, and I
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: thought that I was very sad for her.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: I was very sad for her too, And I had
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: another shut up Rita moment, like this was not.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Her time to speak. I would Rita say, I don't remember.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: I don't even remember. But the only two people who
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: speak at the memorial are Dell and Rita. It's not
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: your turn, Rita, Rita. No. Delle says she wants to
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: remember Jacob in love rather than in fear. But Dell,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: you cannot remember your son in love if you refuse
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: to talk about him, right right. This episode really had
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: me frustrated at some things, very frustrated. Next thing, we
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: have Cat telling Brady she can't do the book deal,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: it's not the time. It's a sweet moment. They have
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: had a little bit of a breakthrough.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: With Cat and Alice. Alice is having a childhood moment,
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: running around.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: With the dog. Everyone's doing all right, And then Alice
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: goes back to the pond and Elliott's there, and she
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: wants to go back, specifically to see Jacob. She realizes
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: she doesn't have a lot of time and she needs
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: to see him right, so she jumps on in, and
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: this time the pond accepts her, and we cut to
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Cat and Dell in the Driftwood in Shells living room
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Driftwood in Shells, the airbn b Airbnb of Port Haven.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Dell can't bring herself to put Jacob's death in the almanac.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Kat offers to do it for her, dating it October twenty.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Ninth, nineteen ninety nine, right, which I assumes.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: The date of his disappearance, right. And this is the
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: only scene between Cat and Dell where they are tender
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: with each other. Yeah, finally, Yeah, I hope, I hope
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: we're headed towards that way, But I don't know. Yeah,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: some of the previous seem like we are not headed
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: that way. Yeah, exactly. But we do get a.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Little bit more of a peek into Dell's true persona
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: because in her bedroom, she pulls Jacob's Teddy Bear out
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: from under her pillow. So as frustrated as she is
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: with Kat for revisiting those memories, she's got some of
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: her own.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. That was kind of a heartbreaking scene.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: And the episode closes with Alice finding young Cat and
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Jacob and of course she's wet again.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Did you fall in the pond again? How we got
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: to figure something out here? How are we gonna begether?
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: That's gonna raise too many questions. She gets invited to
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: dinner and scene, yes, that was sweet that they're like
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: running through the thing with Jacob and Cat. And the
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: show ends with a song called Flyaway by Distant Cousins,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: and we do get a preview of next week's and
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: we see Cat seeing Alice jump in and freaking out.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: So it was kind of figure out what's going on
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: because she's not going to resurface. So who's the homie
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: of the week? I think the homie of the week
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: this week.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: Goes to Alice because she calls everyone on their shit.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: She is tired of her mom and Dell, what happened
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: to you? She's angry at Dele when she suggests she
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: lost her whole world when she lost her husband and
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: son while essentially cutting off her relationship with her daughter.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: They won't give her answers. She's gonna find answers.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: Alice. Alice is my homie of the week. You Go, Alice,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: You go Alice?
• 49:50
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