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This woman dated only far-right men for a year, the verdict? Insecure · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name is
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  Speaker 1: Alison and I will be your host on this uh
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  Speaker 1: cavalcade of wonders. So today we're gonna cover this woman
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  Speaker 1: dated only far right men for a year. They were
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  Speaker 1: so insecure. I have my doubts, but we shall find
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  Speaker 1: out if this is this is accurate. Now, just before
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  Speaker 1: gonna ask you. Have to ask you, Brian, to make
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  Speaker 1: without further ado, let's get into it. Oops, hold on
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  Speaker 1: me a second here, all right, all right, how's that?
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  Speaker 3: Ads? Donio Sullivan got in the cage all right, Jake
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  Speaker 3: Shields technical to explore the manisphere and why exactly it's
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  Speaker 3: so popular.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so let's let's just rebegin. Let's begin that again,
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  Speaker 1: because you know we've had some shenanigans already.
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  Speaker 3: Sin adds. Donio Sullivan got in the cage with former
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  Speaker 3: UFC star turned podcasts ser Jake Shields to explore the
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  Speaker 3: manosphere and why exactly it's so popular.
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  Speaker 4: They speak liberal, they have liberal friends, and then they
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  Speaker 4: go online and they are a white supremacist.
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  Speaker 5: This is via Papasova.
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  Speaker 1: She's what what the that was? Quite the uh? The
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  Speaker 1: manosphere really known for being white supremacist in particular, they
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  Speaker 1: really went right out the gate. There was absolutely no
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  Speaker 1: fluffing with this one, just right up the ass in
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  Speaker 1: the first thirty seconds. Okay, it was good. This is
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  Speaker 1: coulda be fun, very much fun. Six minutes. Huh. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how they're gonna top that one right out
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  Speaker 1: the gate. Oh yeah, they're not states, which is the
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  Speaker 1: thing that they always go for. I mean, I remember
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  Speaker 1: seven years ago when I think it was CNN presented
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of hippies from the Church of Weed, a
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  Speaker 1: American a Indian not American Indian Indian from the subcontinent
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  Speaker 1: like immigrant who was a congressional candidate, and a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of anarchists as Nazis, and they had they got like
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  Speaker 1: a crowd of hundreds of thousands to descend on this
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  Speaker 1: gazebo with twelve people. And I did a video on
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  Speaker 1: it called where are the Nazis Boston or where the
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  Speaker 1: Boston Nazis as opposed to the Illinois Illinois want Nazis?
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  Speaker 1: And uh, it was just astounding. But I guess, I
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  Speaker 1: guess we're just gonna go right like right to the
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  Speaker 1: most extreme accusation, the most extreme accusation, right off the bat,
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  Speaker 1: We're not gonna We're not gonna just massage in with
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  Speaker 1: like a little bit of misogyny or I don't know, colorism. No,
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  Speaker 1: right off the bat, it's white supremacy, which you know,
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  Speaker 1: uh is I'm gonna ask you a question, Brent, Brian,
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  Speaker 1: is Tommy so to my or considered part of the manosphere? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: hm hmm, okay, well that way, I see, I see.
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  Speaker 1: So it's always a matter of political convenience, of course.
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  Speaker 6: Here just a second, I'm gonna I'm going to uh
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  Speaker 6: just adjust my camera a little bit so I'm not
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  Speaker 6: quite so down in the in the bottom of the frame.
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  Speaker 6: All right, So let's let's continue, Let's continue. I don't
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  Speaker 6: know where the heck we're gonna go from here. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: we've already equated the manosphere from the Nazis. This is
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  Speaker 6: actually starting to get a little interesting, Like can they
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  Speaker 6: can they can they go anywhere from here?
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  Speaker 7: All right?
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  Speaker 5: Let's see spent the last year dating far right men
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  Speaker 5: in New York City for a story for Cosmopolitan Magna.
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  Speaker 1: In New York City? Are there a lot of them
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  Speaker 1: in New York City? I wonder if she was just
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  Speaker 1: dating like finance bros. And they just happen to have
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  Speaker 1: slightly libertarian beliefs because they're finance bros. And now that's
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  Speaker 1: far right hell. Actually, you know what, Honestly, she just
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  Speaker 1: has to stop at Manu man men men are part
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  Speaker 1: of the manisphere because they're men and they identify with men.
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  Speaker 1: Those men who don't identify with men, they're not part
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  Speaker 1: of the manisphere. So she was dating men. She's having
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  Speaker 1: her report on dating men.
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  Speaker 4: They're the most insecure I've ever sat down with. It
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  Speaker 4: was really difficult to have some of these dates because
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  Speaker 4: they were so insecure because they don't really know who
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  Speaker 4: they are.
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  Speaker 1: I have some doubts here. I have some serious doubts. Also,
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  Speaker 1: why are you using vocal fry like? And she managed
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  Speaker 1: to date all of them? Huh. You know, I find
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  Speaker 1: this interesting because it isn't I forget what they're what
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  Speaker 1: they were. But a while back, the far right would
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  Speaker 1: send in honey traps to get these I guess they
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  Speaker 1: were all part of the graph. The huge amount of
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  Speaker 1: graph that we're now finding was in the deep state Washington,
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  Speaker 1: d C. And they would get them to reveal like
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  Speaker 1: these secrets about corporate malfeasance, corporate and government malfeasance. But
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  Speaker 1: I guess this woman's really hard hitting. He's found out
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  Speaker 1: that far right men are insecure, which incidentally is just
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  Speaker 1: an opinion because she doesn't have ontological she doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: one to one knowledge of their actual mindset. She's just
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  Speaker 1: assuming based on factors. I wonder if she'll even explain
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  Speaker 1: the factors. Maybe this is the Maybe this all amounts
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  Speaker 1: to her feeling, and her feeling is now a fact
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  Speaker 1: about the far right. Okay, let's find.
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  Speaker 4: Out and they don't know how to figure that out.
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  Speaker 1: She said, what, they don't know who they are and
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  Speaker 1: they don't know how to figure that out. Expand this.
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  Speaker 1: I want to see if that's not Yeah, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: have it expanded. Uh. Sorry, guys, they didn't know who
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  Speaker 1: they are and they were trying to figure that out.
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  Speaker 1: What narrative is this convenient to? I mean, I guess
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  Speaker 1: I guess the left knows what men are.
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  Speaker 7: Really like.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, do you have any trait that men have
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  Speaker 1: that's positive? Like on the left, do you offer any
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  Speaker 1: kind of recognition that men have any kind of unique value, proposition, whatsoever.
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  Speaker 1: Of course you don't, because if you did, it would
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  Speaker 1: be sexist. It would be a biotruth. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: okay to say that women are great about or have
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  Speaker 1: a unique value that men don't, but you can't say
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  Speaker 1: that about men. Suddenly it becomes a biotruth if you're
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  Speaker 1: on the left. So they're saying that men on the
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  Speaker 1: right are insecure. Why, I'm guessing we're never gonna get
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  Speaker 1: an answer.
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  Speaker 5: The men she dated got all their news and information
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  Speaker 5: from the so called manosphere.
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  Speaker 1: I have a skepticism And the reason why I have
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  Speaker 1: a skepticism is what definition of manosphere are they using?
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  Speaker 1: Are they just using everything that doesn't agree with the left?
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  Speaker 1: Of course they are.
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  Speaker 4: They did not listen to anything else, They're only okay.
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  Speaker 1: And what you're doing here is you're essentially saying there's
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  Speaker 1: nothing else to listen to but your side. You're saying
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  Speaker 1: that their side is illegitimate. This is the implication here.
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  Speaker 1: So if you're saying that they're wrong for not listening
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  Speaker 1: to the other side, what about you? I guess your
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  Speaker 1: side is the side of truth and correctness.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, listening to independent media, and they're only listening.
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  Speaker 1: To independent media. Isn't that also far right? Depending what
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  Speaker 1: did they define independent media? For me please. Of course
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  Speaker 1: I never ever.
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  Speaker 5: Will men talking to men domno sphere is made up.
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  Speaker 1: There we have it, folks, there's a money shot. It's
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  Speaker 1: men talking to men and thus making each other insecure
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  Speaker 1: and uninformed. Basically, we have seventy two genders, seventy two
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  Speaker 1: legitimate genders, but men is not one of them.
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  Speaker 5: Show podcasters and influencers.
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  Speaker 1: What does macho mean? I know I'm going to do
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  Speaker 1: this a lot, but what do they mean? Of course,
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Tate feminism's construction, and I'll get to that in
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  Speaker 1: a moment, But what does macho mean in this context?
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  Speaker 1: What are trying they trying to say about this? Like,
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  Speaker 1: what does macho mean in this context? Does it mean
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  Speaker 1: actually recognizing that men have something unique to give to
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  Speaker 1: the world, because that's what it seems to seems to mean. Now,
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  Speaker 1: all right, so Andrew Tate. They always trot out Andrew
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  Speaker 1: Tate because Andrew Tate is the manosphere and apparently Andrew
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  Speaker 1: Tate gives news on everything that's news to me. But whatever,
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  Speaker 1: there's no such as an independent female most women, there's
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  Speaker 1: no such thing as an independent female. Ah Okay, now
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  Speaker 1: I understand why she did the framing she did about
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  Speaker 1: how men are insecure and don't know who they are.
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  Speaker 1: It's because that really hit home, that statement there are
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  Speaker 1: no independent females. And honestly, is he wrong because I
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  Speaker 1: see this all the time. Women need to have a
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  Speaker 1: consensus to even believe that they exist. I remember reading
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  Speaker 1: this tweet it was not that long ago where a
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  Speaker 1: woman was complaining that there were gen z men who
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  Speaker 1: said that women have no interior being, and I was
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  Speaker 1: like looking at this and I was thinking, yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: they can't know that. Only you can know if you
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  Speaker 1: have an inner voice, lady. So it's a completely dismissable observation.
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  Speaker 1: And honestly, they if they don't realize that our actual knowledge,
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  Speaker 1: we don't know if other people are conscious, like that,
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  Speaker 1: it's not possible to really have a firsthand experience of
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  Speaker 1: someone else's consciousness. So yeah, they're not gonna know that.
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  Speaker 1: It's not possible for them to know that only you, lady,
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  Speaker 1: can know if you're conscious. So just like, it's just like,
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  Speaker 1: why would you even why would you even entertain this
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  Speaker 1: line of argument? Why would you even be bothered by it?
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  Speaker 1: It's obvious trolling unless they're they're ignorant of uh, of
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  Speaker 1: con like the the ideas and the philosophies around consciousness,
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  Speaker 1: and I realize that she needs them to have a
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  Speaker 1: positive opinion on her having a consciousness in order for
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  Speaker 1: her to feel like she has a consciousness. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: women don't exist unless other people's opinions confirm their existence.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, aren't you sort of proving their point?
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  Speaker 1: You don't have the ability to say, yes, I observe
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  Speaker 1: my conscious processes, therefore I have an internal life and
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  Speaker 1: nobody else can know this but me and I. So
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  Speaker 1: this is a ridiculous line of inquiry. You're you're the
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  Speaker 1: fact that she's jumping to. It suggests that she has
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  Speaker 1: to get confirmation that she has thoughts. And it's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't that sort of feed into what Andrew Tate said
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  Speaker 1: here about women not being independent. It was another tweet
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  Speaker 1: a while back that a conversation and this woman was
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  Speaker 1: like men. A man was talking about how you know,
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  Speaker 1: men do every most of the work to keep society
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  Speaker 1: running and this woman was like, so, what are we
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  Speaker 1: just your cheering squad and he said yeah, sure, and
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  Speaker 1: she said I don't want to be limited that. I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 1: then don't limit yourself to that, become something else, pick
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  Speaker 1: up trash, become a world famous photographer, Like you don't
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  Speaker 1: have to do that. You don't have to be limited
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  Speaker 1: to this guy's opinion of you. And that's like, this
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  Speaker 1: is a real blind spot that women have. They spend
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  Speaker 1: so much time trying to manipulate and control other people's
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  Speaker 1: opinions of them that they don't attain anything. They don't
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  Speaker 1: realize that most entertainment comes from just sitting alone with
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  Speaker 1: your own thoughts and being aware that you have them.
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  Speaker 1: Right anyway, let's keep going.
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  Speaker 2: Have zero concept of white money. Females don't have anything.
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  Speaker 1: What the hell is okay? So is this? Is? This?
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  Speaker 1: Is fresh and fit? Is he? Is he part of
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  Speaker 1: the white supremacist manosphere?
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  Speaker 2: Some men have zero concept of white money. Females don't have.
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  Speaker 1: I mean even Andrew Tait sort of vaguely brown.
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  Speaker 2: Dependent thought.
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  Speaker 5: It's a space where UFC fighters are among those who
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  Speaker 5: reign supreme.
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  Speaker 1: Are you fucking are I shouldn't swear? Are you freaking
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  Speaker 1: kidding me? You know, eventually the manosphere blob is going
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  Speaker 1: to include all sports.
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  Speaker 4: You know that they love the UFC guys, They love
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  Speaker 4: the MMA guys. Because those guys do what they can't.
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  Speaker 4: They're modern gladiators.
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  Speaker 7: They're bad ass.
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  Speaker 1: How is this a problem? What? What's wrong with aspirational figures?
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that these men don't understand themselves.
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  Speaker 5: Badass like Jake Shields, the former UFC stara turned podcaster. Sorry,
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  Speaker 5: now I'm starting to feel nervous.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So is this guy what the left is throwing
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  Speaker 1: up as an ideal of masculinity? Why would you be
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  Speaker 1: feeling nervous? Okay, okay, let's find out.
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  Speaker 5: Thanks for having us who I met at an MMA
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  Speaker 5: jim in Las Vegas.
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  Speaker 1: Like all great m m A pros, this has to
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  Speaker 1: be Is this like partially satirical? It must be because
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  Speaker 1: this is this really is setting him up as a
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  Speaker 1: total nebbish. That's that seems to be an interesting ploy
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  Speaker 1: there in interesting strategy, bold strategy. So the male on
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  Speaker 1: the left is a nebish who gets nervous at the
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  Speaker 1: sight of these guys in UFC. Now, admittedly UFC is
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  Speaker 1: like they're their own kind of creature, their own species,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, they're really good at what they do.
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  Speaker 1: So badass is a good way of describing them. Why
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  Speaker 1: would he be so nervous. It's not like he's going
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  Speaker 1: to get involved in this unless he does, which would
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  Speaker 1: be interesting. Actually he does.
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  Speaker 5: I've never hit anyone in my life.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is.
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  Speaker 5: CNN. You miss being full time pro like of.
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  Speaker 8: Course I miss it to go from fresh?
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  Speaker 1: Are they trying to make this, Brian? Are you there?
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  Speaker 9: Are they trying to make these No, No they're not.
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  Speaker 9: They're they think they're having a little bit of fun.
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  Speaker 9: But I do have an ultimate The goal is still
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  Speaker 9: the same. They're just trying to appear jovial about it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is so wholesome. Like anybody who watches this,
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  Speaker 1: this guy is is being very wholesome. It's like that
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  Speaker 1: meme with those uh those those those buff bodybuilders explaining
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  Speaker 1: something to the little nerdy kid, you know, and in
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  Speaker 1: a very erodyite way, erodyte way. This is so wholesome.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, he's like being very gentle with him. He's
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  Speaker 1: meeting this guy where he is what the hell's wrong
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  Speaker 1: with that?
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  Speaker 8: An athlete, which is the highest of highs to retirement. Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: that podcast has helped. You can fall into depression if
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  Speaker 8: you just go from the most amazing career where you're
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  Speaker 8: famous in spotlights to all of a sudden, you're nobody.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 5: Like other podcasters in the monosphere, Jake regularly hosts controversial
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  Speaker 5: guests and I.
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  Speaker 8: Name the podcast fighting Back. I feel like we have
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  Speaker 8: to fight back, but what we're told we're allowed to do.
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  Speaker 8: I just don't like to have told you're not allowed
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  Speaker 8: to talk to this, Like, why can't I talk to him?
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  Speaker 8: I'm not I'm not saying I agree with his ideology,
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  Speaker 8: but I should hear what he has to say.
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  Speaker 5: He's hosted the former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.
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  Speaker 8: They have a very very special guest, doctor David Duke.
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  Speaker 1: I know you're controversial, the former grand Wizard, so he
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  Speaker 1: is a disavowed Nazi. So now we're we're not just
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  Speaker 1: doing Nazism by transitive property. We're doing Nazism by transitive
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  Speaker 1: property with somebody who was overcame Nazism. What level of
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  Speaker 1: ridiculous uh kof conspiracy are we at here?
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  Speaker 7: All?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 5: Almus Russo, the leader of the white supremacist group Patriot Front.
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  Speaker 2: Let's Go redisagree a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, wait, those are the FEDS, aren't they aren't those
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  Speaker 1: the Fed people? The ones in the blue polos and
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  Speaker 1: the and the tan and the khaki pants.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go redisagree a little bit.
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  Speaker 8: Let's hit race, because are you You're a white only group, so.
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  Speaker 3: The organization only allows people of American ethnicity, and all
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  Speaker 3: Americans I believe come from Europe, so they're wife.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's amusing. I find that amusing. Okay, all right,
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  Speaker 1: that's a that's a that's a thing that he said,
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  Speaker 1: and he is wrong. But uh, I guess, I guess
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  Speaker 1: the fact that this man who seems like a very wholesome,
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  Speaker 1: wholesome dude. I mean, look at how gentle he was
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  Speaker 1: with this guy who's like, I'm gonna I'm gonna have
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna melt into a nebbishy puddle. Like he's so gentle.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, oh no, I won't hit back. Let's oh,
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  Speaker 1: just have the experience. Just get into the ring and
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  Speaker 1: have the experience, and and and maybe you'll you'll you'll
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  Speaker 1: find out something about yourself from it. This is the
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  Speaker 1: guy who's supposed to be insecure. Huh, Like that woman said,
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  Speaker 1: this is the guy nothing, not the one who's like
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  Speaker 1: terrified of him. No, it's this guy who's insecure, and
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  Speaker 1: like I have to emphasize this enough. The UFC guy
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  Speaker 1: whose name escapes me, he met Neba, she got where
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  Speaker 1: he was, right. He didn't push him, he didn't make
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  Speaker 1: fun of him. He met him where he was and
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  Speaker 1: then tried to introduce him to something he enjoyed. Like
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: that is so wholesome, all right? And then oh, and
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: apparently he talks to people who are beyond the pale,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: you know, because that doesn't mean he like he said.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: It doesn't mean he agrees with them.
• 20:34
  Speaker 8: You know, I understand and talk to these guys, but
• 20:36
  Speaker 8: I've also not brought anyone hateful. If I do, I'm
• 20:38
  Speaker 8: gonna be really, uh really on top of him.
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: But say you saying that you haven't brought someone hateful
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: on race, Kid will say, well, you brought on the
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: Grand Wizard of the k K.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: You brought him front.
• 20:50
  Speaker 8: No, I think it's those are excellent questions, but people
• 20:52
  Speaker 8: want to watch the actual interviews. I think they would
• 20:54
  Speaker 8: be like, oh, this guy's not nearest hapul.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: So if I if I expect it, But Vera says hate.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Oh man, oh man, he gave him a SoundBite there
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: for Oh Jesus god, these are people are so predatory.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Oh and her she's back?
• 21:16
  Speaker 7: Is she?
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's find out.
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: We're really looking for.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: One of these guys brought me to a political meeting.
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: And did they talk about politics?
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: Barely?
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: They talked about it was a bunch of men complaining
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: about girlfriends and wives regurgitating and.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, it was a bunch of men complaining about girlfriends
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: and wives. So he brought you to the male version
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: of almost every female space that I've ever ever come across, Like, so,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: complaining about your spouse or your romantic partner is now
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: verboten because I can tell you that there's one sex
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: who does a lot of that. Is that hateful? Okay, honestly,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: I really have a I have massive doubts that this
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: is actually what they were doing in this space, complaining
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: specifically about their wives and girlfriends. But even if they were,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: even if they were, even if they were complaining about
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: their wives and girlfriends, are we gonna go there? Are
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: we gonna start? Are we gonna start censuring people because
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: they complain about their part? Of course, not because women
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: will continue to do so. And if you want to
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: make that comparison, there is like women's complaints about men
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: are institutionalized now, I mean, there was this one woman
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: who basically complains about her husband in terms of emotional
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: labor on TikTok. That's how she makes a living. She's
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: an influencer, and what she influences women to do is
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: to be resentful towards their husbands for forcing them to
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: do emotional labor, which, as far as I can tell,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: is basically telling their husbands to do stuff. So because
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: their husbands do what they say, it's emotional labor. Because
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: they have to tell their husbands what to do, that's
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: emotional labor.
• 23:12
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: This is the kind of complaints I see from women
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: towards men, and they blast them on social media. So
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: not only are these guys apparently in a small private
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: group complaining about their significant others, they are doing so
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: not blasting it in the public. All right, So I'm
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: afraid I am not that concerned. I find myself unconcerned. Yeah,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: but what were they quoting about? Andrew Tate. Andrew Tate
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: doesn't just constantly talk about pimping. He also talks about
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: other things. I did actually watch some Andrew Tate. He
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: does talk about other things like religious philosophy and social
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: philosophy and I think some economics. So I mean, he
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: has opinions on other things. So what opinions were they
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: talking about. If if these men had been let's just
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: let's just go, let's just bracket this, so let's go
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: to the extreme. If these men had been talking about
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: using the lover boy method to make or to uh
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: to seduce women into being there, you know, like doing
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: uh a prostitution on OnlyFans or whatever whatever it is,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: on only fans, doing stripping on only fans, if they
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: if they had been talking about that kind of stuff,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: she would have said it. She wouldn't have just said, oh,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: quoting Andrew Tate. And also, I want to remind everyone
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: that Andrew Tate is the embodiment of the last thing
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: that feminists gave men that was positive, and that's basically
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: pleasuring women with their penises. I just get this demonetized.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Who cares? So they left only one passingly pro social
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: element to manhood in the inventory of masculine norms, and
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: that was playboy. So a man giving a woman sexual pleasure,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: a man being able to seduce a woman, that kind
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: of thing. That was the last thing that gave men
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: that was in any way pro social they took away breadwinner,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: they took away protector, they took away other forms of
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: masculinity that involved self sacrifice. They refused to see that
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: as part of the masculine norms, or even part of
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: God forbid, part of masculine nature. They refused to see that.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: And they left one little dribble, one little dribble, and
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: from that little dribble burst forth Andrew.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: Tape advice about how to train your girlfriend, how to
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: train your wife to be submissive. And so this group
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: was supposed to be a political group, but they're talking
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: about relationship problems.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: And how to train your wife to be submissive. Okay,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: I've seen those conversations. I have my own problems with them,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: not related to women ending up being submissive, more related
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: to the fact that these conversations only seem to ever
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: put the responsibility for women's behavior on men. So, in
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: other words, if she's batshit insane and kills your hamster,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: it was on you because you just didn't lead her enough.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: All right, she boils your bunny, it's on you. It's you.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: You just you just didn't you know, mash x Y
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: and the proper proper sequence to unlock the U the
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: gentle homemaker setting right. It's it's it just puts things
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: on men, and that that really frustrates me. I don't
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: like it because, as you all know, if you've watched
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: me for any length of time, I blame women and
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: nobody can stop me. And so that's my problem with it.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: But I presume from the conversations that I'm seeing that
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: the way that they say to make a woman submissive,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: And again, if they said beat her every Tuesday, this
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: woman would have been all over that like white on rice,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: and that would have been the first thing out of
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: her mouth. So what they likely say, based on my
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: experience of those conversations, is that a man needs to
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: lead properly and then his woman will follow, which again
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: puts it on him. But which you know, I don't
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: think the Bible really puts it on men like that
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: because it uses the word submit, which is different than obey.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Submit has almost it has actually a military connotation in
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: the word history. So you have a power that you
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: willingly grant or give to the service of another person.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: So there's a recognition that women have the power not
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: to submit. They have the power to make life a
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: goddamn holy hell. For everyone, But these women choose to submit.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: They choose to trust the men in their life lives
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: with the things that men do, like protection and creating
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: systems to facilitate protection, you know, like a creating a
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: system a watch to facilitate protection, creating weapons, you know
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Just trust the men. They know
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: what they're they know their business, okay.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: And the fact that that's what most of the time
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: was spent on. You don't need to be a U Nazi.
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: You need therapy.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Where are the Nazis in Boston, CNN? Where are they?
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: The appeal?
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Oh I love the little freaking shitty GRINCHU Nazi.
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: You need therapy.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: That's that's that's the face of trust right there. Look
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: at at Is that not a smile that you trust? Oh?
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Good lord, oh man, oh man. Okay, So we we
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: we're just we're just shoving Nazism in there. I guess
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: the pathway. I'm going to reconstruct the pathway that we
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: got to Nazism. This individual whose name escapes me, I
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: am so sorry. Uh Jake Shields, Jake's Shields, decides to
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: speak to people, probably to get their perspective, maybe to
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: understand it, in order to be able to avoid whatever
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: pitfalls it represents whatever. He's obviously a free speech advocate,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: so he talks to these people. Some of them happened
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: to be a former Grand Wizard for the KKK on
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: one was a part of Patriot Front. And he talks
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: to these people and because he says, well, they weren't
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: that hateful, which I don't know what definition of hateful is.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I guess maybe they come out of a somebody opens
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: a cage and they go directly for his eyes. But
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: you know, if he says he they weren't that hateful,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: and maybe it's because he wants to humanize this so
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: people understand how they end up in the in that
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: circumstance of that level of hatred. I have to look
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: more into Patriot Front to decide, So I don't want
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: to go on whatever CNN says about them. But regardless,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: he's willing to talk to these people. And because he's
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: willing to talk to them, and because he's not willing
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: to blanket throw them under the bus as subhuman, hateful orcs.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Obviously the Manisphere is about neo Nazis and also needs therapy.
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: The appeal of Jake's podcast speaks to a need among
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: young men in this country that Vera says can't be ignored.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: And you have to incentivize someone to want to be better.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: You Verra, who does sides what better is? I'm guessing
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: that's you, right, You get to decide what's what better is?
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: You have to incentivize people to be better? Huh, But
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: you get to decide what better is?
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: What? Who?
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: When were you declared? When were you crown grand universal
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: queen of what is better?
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: What are your quality?
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: What are your qualify creations? What are your credentials? Because
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: you're you work at CNN, Well.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: Of course can't just say let's make men better?
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: So what is the incentive structure you're going to offer
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: to make men better?
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: The thing about these guys is their biggest support system
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: is online, but that also is very isolating, and isolation
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: is what breeds hate.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: It's the confederacy of midwits, tread.
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: Like guys community based on racism and hate.
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: People have to really.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Think about do you have seriously, how.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: Do you have the capacity to talk to people that
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: you don't agree with?
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Because well, Jake Shields has the capacity to talk to
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: people with that he doesn't agree with. But apparently you don't,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: not without casting aspersions and deciding you're their moral betters.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: That one nice conversation you might have might change someone's day.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, that would be Jack Shield's philosophy. Why are you
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Why are you copying.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: It enough to not have to seek out help in
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: an online support group which is actually a bunch of
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: white supremacists using political beliefs.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: A bunch of supremacists. Let's go back here, let's go
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: back right here. Yes, a bunch of white supremacists. And
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: I guess the solution is to actually treat men as
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: human beings. But that should make them better, well, you know,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: in a very roundabout way. She sort of hit on
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: the correct answer. But then the question is, why aren't
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: we already treating men as human beings? And doesn't that
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: make us a lot less than better if we're not.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: Talking about relationship problems and the fact that that's what
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: most of the time was spent on. You don't need
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: to be a neo Nazi.
• 33:46
  Speaker 7: You need therapy.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: You gave absolutely no evidence that these men were neo Nazis.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: What did you do? Did you crash like a group therapy?
• 33:59
  Speaker 8: Sex?
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Just like so these guys are just talking about their
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: relationship problems. And suddenly this woman is like, I you're
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: a neo Nazi. How does that follow? Because the only
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: other thing she said, these men were explicitly saying, and
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: I want you to realize this. We segued into this
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: nonsense about Jack Shield talking to Patriot Front, Jackshield talking
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: to the Grand Puba of the KKKIR or whatever what
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: was the former one, And now we're at, oh, yeah,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: obviously these men are Nazis. No that there's no logic here,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: there's only insinuation and poisoning the well. So she has
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: not proven that this parent support group for men who
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: have relationship difficulties had a whole bunch of Nazis in it.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: She hasn't proven that this remains unproven.
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: The appeal Jake's podcast speaks to a need among young
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: men in this country that Vera says can't be ignored.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: You have to incentivize someone, you.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Know what, a surprise after you lost an election.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: To want to be better. You can't just say that's
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: already been better. The thing about these guys is their
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: biggest support system is online, but that also is very isolating,
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: and isolation is what breeds hatred.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: So how do they end up having their biggest support
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: system be online? How does that happen.
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: Groupes like Patriot Front to offer community a community based
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: on racial.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know anybody who is the Patriot Front, and
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: I don't think the manosphere really unites people based on racism.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: That's not the central theme of the Manosphere. But you know,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: this is an interesting illustration of things that I've talked about,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: how women appropriate other forms of ism in order to
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: buttress their claims of discrimination. Like so far, I mean,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: maybe she's leaving it for the end. Maybe that's going
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: to be the m Night Shamalan twist at the end.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: So far, we haven't really discussed it in terms of misogyny.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: It's all been racism nor I really haven't discussed it
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: much in terms of misogyny.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: Have to really think about do you have the capacity
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: to talk to people that you don't agree with because
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: that one nice conversation you might have might change someone's
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: day enough to not have to seek out help in
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: an online support group which is actually a bunch of
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: white supremacists, unproven using political beliefs as an excuse for
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: how they feel.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Using political beliefs for an excuse for how they feel. Right,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: and again she's this is apparently all about this group therapy.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: This therapy group right of a bunch of men talking
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: about their relationships, which you would think would be just fine.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Like if they have relationship problems, they're talking about it
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: with each other, they're supporting each other. She hasn't given
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: any detail into the horrible things that were said, not
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: a single quote, just that they were talking about their
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: relationship problems and occasionally spoke about Andrew Tait and I
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: think I think at one point she said, ah, they
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: were teaching each other about how to get their women
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: to follow their lead. Well, I mean, if you don't
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: want women to have to follow men's leads, then stop
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: giving men responsibility for women's behavior. Just take it as
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: a woman, take responsibility for your own behavior. Otherwise, if
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: these men live in a world where they're going to
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: be held responsible for their women's behavior, they might as
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: well discuss how to lead them so that they don't
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: get hit with the ship stick because she does something stupid.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: Donia Sullivan is here with us now, Donny, I'm so
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: glad you're you've done this special. There's so much intrigue
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: around this issue of the man.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: The manisphere is intriguing. Well, that's that's that's an improvement,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: I guess, fear.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: And in fact Trump is going to the UFC tonight.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: How big of a role does the sport play in
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: the manosphere?
• 38:29
  Speaker 7: Are you.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Actually, you know what, I'm gonna stop here. I'm gonna
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: look and see what you guys are saying because I'm curious.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: I'm curious what you have to think what I'll go
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: into this. I'll go into the the vertical chat for
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: are the horizontal chat first and see what the stream
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: what the stream is saying. Oh uh, I got a
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: super chow. That's cool, thank you, uh, Mark Hillier, Uh, Aliston, Alison,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: these podcasts say use the problem. I don't know what
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: podcast you're referring to. You're saying that all the manisphere
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: says that I have listened to some and like Joe Rogan,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he doesn't say that like apparently this
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: this Jackfellow, Jack Shield no indication that he believes that
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: this is true, right, okay. Also, also, considering that Trump
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: is going after Harvard for antisemitism, does the left really
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: have a leg to stand on here. I mean, she's
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: not taught. She doesn't specifically saying it's anti semitism. She's
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: saying racism. Right, she hasn't said anti semitism. And the
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: reason it's probably a reason why she hasn't said anti
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: semitism because the left is being called out for being antisemitic. Now,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: all right, I'm just saying, Okay, Jim Bottle says, don't
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: blame Alison hold responsible rather no blame. I'm sorry. The
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: thing is that once you start playing the game, the
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: feelings game, I don't like that. It it just keeps creeping.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: It just keeps creeping. So women have to deal with
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: the word blame. They have to deal with the fact
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: that they are to blame, right, and they should be
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: blamed until we are as comfortable blaming women as we
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: are blaming men. Okay, let's uh all right. So Tielder mentions,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: never forget that Playboy metric on that feminist inventory was
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: only used by three percent of the men they sampled.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Three percent became a norm because of feminism. Yes, here's
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: the thing, guys. So we started out with masculine norms,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: and masculine norms was being a provider. It was being
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: a protector, it was being a father, It was being
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: a good friend, it was it was upholding your your word,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: it was always being there for so being stable and supportive.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: All of these kinds of ideas were once associated with
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: men and expectations of men on the masculine norms. Over
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: from the nineteen seventies up to like the early two thousands,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: all of that disappeared, every single pro social recognition of
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: a pro social expectation of men. And I would argue
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: that this is a pro social expectation of men that
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: is based on the way men are naturally, so the
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: way men do the masculine frame, the biolog that the
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: biological masculine frame. So what you inherit as a man
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: from your biology, These masculine norms and the recognition of
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: these good things that men bring society, all of them
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: were removed because well, women could do it too. They
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: aren't really expected to do it the way men are
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: expected to do it, nor is there evidence that they
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: have the same kind of proper like genetic predisposition to
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: doing it. Things like altruistic punishment, which is self sacrificed
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: in order to uphold the norms of society. Women are
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: there's not evidence that women do this like men do.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, look at the situation of the criminal justice system.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: The criminal justice system evolved out of men coming together
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: and policing each other's behavior in order to create a
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: functional society. Look at what's happening with feminists now, female advocates.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: They are dismantling the criminal justice system as it applies
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: to criminal women. And they've been doing this for decades now,
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: they're dismantling it. So men created a system of holding
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: other men accountable. Women are dismantling that system and refusing
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: to hold each other accountable. We wouldn't have a justice
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: system if it was left up to women, right, Okay,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: So these things are these the masculine norm were an expression,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, of masculine nature that were recognized as norms.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: But there are also expectations of men, in part because
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: I think in the past we believed that more men
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: were more capable of demonstrating these positives, these social positives,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: but also because we expected them of it. All of
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: that was removed, all of it, and the only thing
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: that was left was men's ability to seduce women and
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: give them sexual pleasure. That's it. That's the only thing
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: they left is something completely tied to men's genitals. You
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: talk about feminists talk about objectification. They literally removed everything
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: from the male identity except being a fuck boy. Right,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: and now we have Andrew tape.
• 43:49
  Speaker 7: Ugh.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's see if there's anything else. I don't see
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: any I'll check and see if there's any superchows in
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: the Nope. If you'd like to send me a super chat,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: you can do so at feedbadger dot com slash just
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: the tip very much appreciated if you do so, and
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: I'll take a look. Okay, I'll don my personal protective
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: gear and go into the special chat. So I'm going
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: into the special chat. So Scarlett O'Hara said, no Republican
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: man dated that. Yeah, I have my I have my doubts.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: I have my doubts as well also, I just I mean,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: based on her evidence, all she's basically said is that
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: she went to a group support for men in troubled relationships.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: I guess maybe maybe this guy was, like I think
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: you could use seeing the other side of a relationship
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: in which the woman is abusive. Hint, hint, nudge, nudge
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: to this lady. You might want to you might need
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: you need a little bit of consciousness or sympathy, sympathy
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: raising to this uh this CNN lady. Oh goodness, let
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: me see. No, it's it's open, all right. Okay. So
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: I think that that mightwort. That might have been what happened.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: If guys are confused what I'm saying. I'm saying that
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: some man in her life that she met that may
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: have had passingly far right or right opinions. Maybe he
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: felt like, uh, you know, on unchecked immigration into a
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: state that offers programs is you know, programs for its
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: citizens is a recipe for economic collapse. And she was like,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: oh my god, you're a Nazi. And then uh and
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: then he was like you listened to her for a bit,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: and he said, do you do you do you have
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: a man in your life? Because I think you could.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Uh do you want to know about? Do you want
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: to know about even more Nazism? I'll take you to
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: this support group for men who are abused by women
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: and maybe maybe you can hear some some juicy stories
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: and and you know, become enlightened about your own behavior. Okay,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a thought, all right. So uh, Okay,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: let's see what else is in the super chat. Oh,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Gabe l says, incentive structure to become a better person.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Do you hear the things you say? I wonder, I
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: wonder if these men came together and discussed an incentive
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: structure to make better women, what she would think of that? Like,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: it's it is incredibly arrogant. How they presume that they
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: know what makes men better. Of course they also know
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: what makes women better too. All right, let's see what else.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Anthony Huber permanently retired skateboarder far right translation anyone to
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: the right of Stalin. No, I'm sorry, my dearest Stalin
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: is also far right. Now, it's it's anyone that there
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: was this. This is the sort of this I think
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: it was in South America they had this kind of
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: comedy act, except it's it's it's it's more like a
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: it's like comedy custom where you'd have one person get
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: up on stage, and usually it's men. We'll get up
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: on stage and they're gonna be there'd be two people
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: up in stage, and each of them would do everything
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: they could to make the other look ridiculous, so one
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: would be just laughing and laughing and pointing and laughing
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: and making gestures, and they both do this to try
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: to make the other one look ridiculous. And that's what
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: this is. This is she is trying to pantomime the
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: idea that these individuals are biased and to try to
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: induce the perception through I don't know, the induce the
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: perception by just pantomiming it. That's what this all is.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: They're just pantomiming. Oh, I'm responding to this like he's
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: a Nazi, therefore he's a Nazi. Okay, let's uh, let
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: me move on here. See what else they have? Wait,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: I'll just they'll just check the super chat. Nope, nothing yet.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Look at what. Oh there's is a superchat. Okay, I
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: got the superchat. Brian just sent me a message, or
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: maybe he sent me a message when I got the
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: super chat. I don't know. Anyway, information was conveyed. Let's
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: move on. Oh I did get a super chat all right,
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: so big j xxx twenty dollars, Thank you, Big j xxx.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: My memory is very long. Karen Girl writes what interviewed
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: and gave sympathy an empathy towards white nationalist Christopher Cantwell.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: The manisphere is a link to Fascians fascism. Enough with
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: the sbe, shame, blame, and explain is linked to fascism?
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: All right, is are you are you calling?
• 49:16
  Speaker 9: Like?
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Well, first of all, this is transitive property. That doesn't
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: mean she necessarily agreed with anything that can't Christopher can't
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: well said. Plus, Christopher Campbell, from my memory, was a
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: pretty pretty marginal dude. A lot of these guys that
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: are marginal like this, they believe, they believe a whole
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: bunch of stuff that's often self contradictory, like they just
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: want a cause to replace their sense of self worth.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: I don't disagree with her on that, but I just
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: don't think that a bunch of men talking about their
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: relationship difficulties is Nazism. Nor do I think that this
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: Jack Shield is a Nazi because he interviewed a former
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Grand Wizard or the head of Patriot Front. Yeah. Yeah,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: so Gabriel Peel and Lucas says, you just paid someone
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: you disagreed with self owned. Yeah, well, I'll take it.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: There you go. That's my explanation. Okay, all right, so
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: let's listen to a bit more.
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: Hey as well.
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and look, we should point out at the start here,
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: there's tons of guys who are fans, and some women
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: as well who are fans of the UFC. I have
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: many friends who are fans of the USC. It certainly
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: does not mean, you know that if you are a
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: fan of the UFC, you are falling sort of down
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: this rabbit hole of hate and white supremacy and everything else.
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: But what we are seeing is that there is this
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: sort of there is this crossover the US.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Oh what I was getting at with the pantomime thing,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: somebody said, anyone to the right Stalin. Actually what it
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: is is anyone you can pantomime being to the right
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: of yourself at any at any moment. So it's ultimately
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: it deteriorates into people, a group of people, or two people,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: both of whom are trying to shame, blame and explain
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: the other. All right, let's finish this off. I think
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: he just waffled for a bit there.
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: See is playing a greater and bigger and bigger role
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: really in American life. Jill Rogan, who's the world's biggest podcaster,
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: is a UFC commentation.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, guys, their next target is the UFC. They did games,
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: they did atheism, they did football, and now they did.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: They did the guy who sent a who landed a
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: rocket on a meteorite, and now they're going to do
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: the u UFC because that's the source of the Man
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: is sphere my dudes, okay.
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: Or Dana Weiss, who is the founder of the UFC,
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: is a prominent Trump supporter and was recently appointed to
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: the board of Meta by Mark Zuckerberg himself, another big
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: MMA and UFC fan, and actually fighting tonight in Miami,
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: like Trump is going to.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: The This is an m night shamal on twist. At
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: the beginning this, I would never have guessed that UFC
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: is the new big bad. UFC is the new hotness
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: they need to infiltrate and destroy. Look look forward to
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: all the men's matches being replaced by women and if
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: you're lucky, trans women the event.
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: We're not sure if he'll be there for the earlier fights,
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: but fighting tonight in Miami at the UFC event is
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: a fighter by the name of Mitchell, who recently set
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: up a podcast of his own, and on his debut
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: episode a few months ago, he said that Hitler was
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: a quote unquote good guy or a great guy.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: I would need to know the context of that.
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: Dana White, the head of the UFC, was quick to
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: condemn that. But you know, you can just kind of
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: see there.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: So somebody who I'm guessing retired from the NFC said
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: that Hitler was a good guy. No context could be sarcasm,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: of course, I know that they don't accept context. Man,
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: this woman looks like she's not there at all, Like
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: the woman on the Do you see the woman on
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: the on the on my left? I think it might
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: be all right, I man't know, wait your left. She
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: just she looks like she's checked out long ago. She's
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: either got a vibrating egg suck stuffed up somewhere. She's
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: imagining all copoca or something. She's like, I'm not here,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: I'm far away.
• 54:06
  Speaker 5: Where where Folks who might be coming into this sport
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: for one reason or fan of fighting, and then they're
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: getting exposed to views like like Bryce Mitchell's.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: But wow, that was a stretch. This one guy in UFC.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: UFC is pretty big, Like I mean, if you include
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: all of them, including the amateur, that's huge. It must
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: be like at least tens of thousands of guys that
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: compete in the in UFC in the relevant sports, right,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: like you know, Brazilian jujitsu and all this stuff. I
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: went to one once. It was very strange experience, not
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: not my cup of tea, let me sell you, because
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: I used to do Brazilian jiu jitsu and my instructor
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: had a fighter who was doing a local part of
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: local mixed martial arts fighting and I went to support,
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: and I don't know, it's just not my scene. I
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: don't I like Brazilian jiu jitsu, but I don't particularly
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: like UFC fighting. I know that sounds weird, but but no,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: maybe it doesn't. Maybe people understand. But anyway, it was
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: a weird scene. However, there's a lot of it, like
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: I would imagine, there is a lot of people involved
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: in this, lots of fans, lots of participants. And one
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: guy says out of context because I don't know what
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: the context was for him saying that Hitler was a
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: good guy. This guy, the guy who's the head, says,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: I don't agree with that. That's wrong, and somehow, somehow,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: uh yeah, I don't want to show you guys an ad. Somehow,
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: somehow this means that the UFC is Nazis now, like
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: I said, guessing the new hotness is going after the UFC,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: and pretty soon you're going to be finding a whole
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: bunch of changes because it's masculine and also Nazis. You
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: see how they operate. They find some space that even
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: passingly like men are are even passingly interested in. Or
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: there's a majority male audience. Not all men like the UFC,
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: but it's a majority male audience. So that's the next
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: thing on the chopping block. Just like we did a
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: show a couple like last week on trash collection last Friday,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: trash collection in Birmingham in the UK, and how the
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: trash collectors are going on strike because they have been
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: subject to pay cuts because of equality efforts that were
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: bringing their pay in line with female dominated professions cares
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: and indoor cleaners. So men who were picking up garbage
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: went on strike because they were seeing pay cuts to
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: bring their pay in line with cleaners and cooks, which
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: was a majority female. And the justification was, of course
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: ben men were majority men and cleaners and cooks were
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: majority female. So if there's any disreperency discrepancy between the
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: pay for binmen and pay for cleaners and cooks, it
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: must be due to patriarchal privilege thus has to be corrected.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: So now the streets of Birmingham are a wash in
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: garbage because of this nonsense. And this is the same
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: rationale to go over at the UFC. They're constructing a
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: threat narrative. Guys don't know about threat narratives. Look up
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: threat narrative on my personal channel. I think it's it
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: might be gender addic. It's my personal channel, and take
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: a look at that. Essentially, a threat narrative is when
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: they just whole cloth build this idea. They construct this
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: ill intent of the UFC, They construct the malfeasance of
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: the UFC. So they're up to no good. They're mysterious.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: The UFC is mysterious. Now, guys, a mysterious cabal, a
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: mysterious cabal. One of them said that he thought Kittler
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: was a cool dude. And also also, we're just gonna
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: pantomime some Nazism. We're gonna pantomime that the guy on
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: the other side of the theater on the stage, he's
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: a Nazi. We're gonna pantomime that. And now we're going
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: to go after them, and we're gonna shut it all
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: down because men like it that's it. That's the only reason. Okay,
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: I'm done with this. I did not realize that we
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: would end up with the end conclusion of this would
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: be the UFC is full of Nazis. We have to
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: shut it down. That was new that that actually was
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: slightly surprising. But anyway, okay, So Brian, are you there?
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: Are you ready?
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm ready.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Did you want to add anything or did you know
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: that it was the end of this. The final conclusion
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: was that we have to shut down the UFC or
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: we have to massively change it it.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, is my sound okay? People were saying that
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: it was low.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: It is a bit low. I am low.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: I'll increase the sound.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: No, it's all right, I can turn myself up. I think.
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: Okay, good, you know why my volume is low.
• 59:20
  Speaker 9: Let me just hold on a second.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: I will adjust it and a little bit, okay, to
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: get to hear your opinion.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: I've been waiting.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: I'm still low for some reason.
• 59:34
  Speaker 9: Yeah, let me just see if I can just add
• 59:38
  Speaker 9: and gain let me go, we go all right?
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: So all right?
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: That okay.
• 59:46
  Speaker 9: So the only thing I guess I would say is
• 59:51
  Speaker 9: it doesn't surprise me because it's something that men largely enjoy,
• 59:56
  Speaker 9: and what they're really attacking is masculinity in whatever form
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 9: it takes. And the other thing is, you know, like
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 9: that about that super chat where Karen had on Chris Cantwell.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 9: I mean, obviously, like we can talk to whoever we want.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 9: And I don't know if you've been paying attention, but
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 9: like if somebody says you shouldn't speak to this person,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 9: or I think you're a bad person because you spoke
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 9: to so and so and you didn't just like essentially
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 9: drag them over the coals for being a quote bad person,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 9: end quote, you're just trying to control who people talk
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 9: to and ultimately what people think about. And I find
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 9: that absolutely reprehensible, more so than whatever views this person has.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 9: And so, like the thing is, the cat is out
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 9: of the bag. People are having conversations. They're doing it
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 9: without the oversight of media or politicians or activists or
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 9: academics or intellectuals. It's happening everywhere. You can't stop it.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 9: So you might as well be a part of the
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 9: conversation and have like the better ideas and just just
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 9: let's talk to people you know, you know who Like
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 9: suppose that I don't know if it's true, but there
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 9: was a guy named Darryl Davis. Darryl Davis is a
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 9: black man that supposedly deradicalized several members of.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: The Klukus Klan.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 9: And you know how he did it. He sat down
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 9: and talked to them. He hung out with them. Now
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 9: I would ask him how he survived, considering how bloodthirsty
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 9: and murderers were told these people are, but he did survive.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 9: He deradicalized them by hanging out with them and talking
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 9: to them and seeing them as human beings. So the
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 9: reason why I'm saying this is because if you let
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 9: the media tell you that if you have any connection
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 9: to whoever we arbitrarily decide is part of the manisphere,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 9: then you are going to be deplatformed. And that's why
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 9: I think that coming out and saying well, I'm not
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 9: I don't associate with with those people because those are
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 9: bad people. Well, you are playing by their rules. You're
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 9: playing by the rules of these feminists and activists. Okay,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 9: that is that is the for sure going to kill you.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 9: It's gonna kill your movement, is what I mean, not
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 9: literally kill you. So like, what you have to do
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 9: is you have to say, yeah, answer just for yourself.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 9: Have conversations with people if you you know, and and
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  Speaker 9: and just be open, so like, yeah, you don't like
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  Speaker 9: that so and so has opinions on.
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  Speaker 2: This group of people or that group of people.
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  Speaker 9: Well maybe you should like talk to that person and
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  Speaker 9: find out where they get their ideas. Because as long
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  Speaker 9: as you play the game of don't associate with X,
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  Speaker 9: you're gonna keep losing because people are just gonna keep
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  Speaker 9: asking themselves, well, why can't I talk to that person?
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  Speaker 9: Why can't I have this conversation? Why can't I find
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  Speaker 9: out what they believe? Like why can't I sit down
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  Speaker 9: with David Duke and have a conversation. But the Hodge Twins,
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  Speaker 9: you know who the Hodge Twins are. They're a couple
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  Speaker 9: of black guy bodybuilders. They did a podcast and interviewed
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  Speaker 9: David Duke. They walked out of there in one piece?
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  Speaker 9: How is that possible? How did that happen? Like what
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  Speaker 9: you should be asking yourself this question, like.
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  Speaker 2: How like why are you? Like why do you believe
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  Speaker 2: what the media told you? Why is it?
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  Speaker 9: There are still people to this day that are like
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  Speaker 9: we'll see it and said and like what guys think
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  Speaker 9: for yourselves, how is it impossible if that happened and
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  Speaker 9: nobody died and and the other thing is is that
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  Speaker 9: the reason. So the thing is is I don't think
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  Speaker 9: Jake Shields is manisphere anyway. I think that's a very
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  Speaker 9: loose connection because what the media is doing. Oh I
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  Speaker 9: don't watch Jake shield so I don't know for sure,
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  Speaker 9: but I doubt that he is manisphere what the media does.
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  Speaker 2: And this is exactly what they did in this video. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: they start off with people.
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  Speaker 9: Who are genuinely would I would even say, yeah, sure,
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  Speaker 9: these people are in the manisphere, like fresh and Fit
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  Speaker 9: Andrew Tate, right, that are sort of like loosely connected.
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  Speaker 9: They're not talking to any MRAs by the way, they're
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  Speaker 9: not talking to Warren Ferrell, they're not talking Upon Elam,
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  Speaker 9: they're not talking to Tennis Mngo. They're not talking to
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  Speaker 9: Tim Goldisch or Tom Golden. They're not talking to any
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  Speaker 9: of those people. They're talking to like, they're talking about
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  Speaker 9: the people that are the worst possible or at least
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  Speaker 9: in their minds, the worst possible representatives. And then they
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  Speaker 9: try to draw like create connective tissue between the worst
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  Speaker 9: possible examples that they were able to find i e.
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  Speaker 9: Fresh and Fit, you know whatever, Andrew Tate and then
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  Speaker 9: they say, oh, well, these people are like Jake Shields,
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  Speaker 9: and Jake Shields spoke to David Duke and David Duke
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  Speaker 9: and it is just like Patriot Front.
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  Speaker 2: Oh did you see what we did there?
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  Speaker 9: And it's basically like this, you know, let's connect the
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  Speaker 9: dots and now we're gonna lay there and then we're
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  Speaker 9: not even gonna make any like any like you know,
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  Speaker 9: absolute claims.
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  Speaker 2: We're just gonna let it rest and let you decide
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  Speaker 2: what do you think.
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  Speaker 9: And of course, you know, fucking boomers and women that
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  Speaker 9: are watching this are like, oh my god, the menisphere
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  Speaker 9: is well white supremacist, even though they just saw like,
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  Speaker 9: you know, the guy from Freshman Fit who's clearly not.
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  Speaker 2: White, right, but like doesn't matter like that.
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  Speaker 9: But you know, this whole thing is lies, and as
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  Speaker 9: long as you try to play that damage control bullshit,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 9: you're gonna lose because these people don't care about the truth.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 9: They don't they never cared about the truth.
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  Speaker 1: They want a pantomime that you're a Nazi and that's it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: just shut you up.
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  Speaker 9: And the truth is that works as long as you
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  Speaker 9: think of, you know, I don't know, against being a
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  Speaker 9: Nazi as the worst possible thing you could be that,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 9: you know, like as long as it's something that is
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  Speaker 9: like so beyond the pale inhuman that you can't possibly
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  Speaker 9: have a rational conversation with somebody who's been accused of
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 9: being a Nazi.
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  Speaker 2: That is the way that they control you.
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  Speaker 9: Like, like this is why I'm like, well, Jake Shield's
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 9: talk with David Duke, okay, Like, well what did he
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  Speaker 9: have to say?
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  Speaker 2: You know, like, I don't know, Like it's just it's crazy.
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  Speaker 9: It's the same thing. Yeah, they did this with Alex Jones.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 9: How do they get Alic Sjones banned from YouTube? They
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 9: make the same claims and then they do over time
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 9: they get rid of him. The system gets rid of him.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 9: The system, the cathedral is the problem, not these independent voices.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know, that's all. That's all I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, Yeah, yeah, I think that next time we need
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: to have it so that you can come on so
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: they can see who's saying that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, I like being a disembodied voice the
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: way the website. For some reason I did.
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  Speaker 1: I did because it was showing an ad. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not giving you freaking advertising. I can, I can
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: reopen it if you want, but yeah, it was just
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: showing an ad. So I'm like, yeah, no, I'm not gonna.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna give you guys free advertising,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: especially since my channel is or this channel. Our channels
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: are demonetized. But I can bring it up again, it'll show,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: it'll show another ad. Right, wait, okay, here we go.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: I'll just share share here we go. There you go.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: Get to see it again, this individual Jel, this woman
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: who looks like she's completely checked out, like utterly checked out. Anyway,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: get to see her mug again. Okay, so let me
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: just double check and make sure it's up. We'll put
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: it on another This is this is our this is
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: our right wing honeytrap. There.
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  Speaker 9: Okay, I think that if you pay attention, she was
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 9: actually sexually attracted to.
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  Speaker 2: These UFC guys.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt said.
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  Speaker 2: They were badasses.
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  Speaker 9: And the way that she said it was very breathy,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 9: so it was you know, actually.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: There's a trick. Let's listen. We could go back and
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  Speaker 1: listen to how she speaks about these men.
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  Speaker 4: To anything else they're only listening to independent media, and
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: they're only listening to men talking to men.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: So generally, when women are attracted to a man, their
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: voice goes up. It's a little difficult, like they get
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: becomes higher pitched. It's a little difficult to discern with
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: her because she seems to use a lot of vocal fry.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: But if we listen to her actually describing these guys.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: And then they go online and they are a white
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: supremacist m hm, butns and then they go.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: On so let's see popular.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: They speak liberal, they have liberal friends, and then they
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: go online and they are a white supremacist.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: She might also be lying when she does the vocal fries.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be difficult to discern. But yeah, it's possible
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: that she did find them attractive. And then this is
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: all bullshit like she's negatives.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 9: No, it's not that part. It's when she talks about
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 9: when they get into the UFC thing. It's when she
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 9: describes the UFC guys.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, well, I'm probably it's gonna be quite difficult
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: to find it. Do you know the actual time?
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know the time code.
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  Speaker 1: It's okay, yeah, I said, but I'll trust you, I
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if she actually finds them attractive, because
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: you know, women are attracted to masculinity even though they
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: want to destroy it at the same time. It's very bizarre. Okay,
• 1:09:14
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