Latest / Crime Night / The pharmacist was killed
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I want you to just picture this for a moment,
- 0:02Speaker 1: a residential street in hell Wan, Egypt. You in the
- 0:06Speaker 1: kind of place it's got, that constant city hum, cars,
- 0:09Speaker 1: people shouting, just yeah, life, the everyday noise exactly. But
- 0:14Speaker 1: then on this one afternoon, that noise just stops. It's
- 0:18Speaker 1: broken by a sound. Not a gunshot, not a scream.
- 0:21Speaker 2: It's a thud, the kind of heavy, final sound that
- 0:23Speaker 2: makes your stomach drop before you even.
- 0:25Speaker 1: Know what it is, right, the sound of a body
- 0:27Speaker 1: hitting pavement from what five stories up.
- 0:30Speaker 2: Yeah, And of course people run over they see a
- 0:32Speaker 2: man lying there, completely broken, doctor Willa zay Ed, And
- 0:38Speaker 2: the first sort of instinct is to look up.
- 0:41Speaker 1: You look up at the balcony, and you're expecting to see,
- 0:43Speaker 1: I don't know, a monster, some kind of career criminal.
- 0:46Speaker 2: But that's the thing. That's not what you see. You
- 0:48Speaker 2: see a family. You see a father in law, two
- 0:50Speaker 2: brothers in law, men who an hour earlier were probably
- 0:53Speaker 2: just you know, drinking tea, doctors, engineers, And that.
- 0:57Speaker 1: Single image, this so called respectable family looking down at
- 1:02Speaker 1: the body of their son in law, that's really the
- 1:05Speaker 1: core of what we're going to break down today, because
- 1:07Speaker 1: this isn't a whodunit. We know who is there, Oh,
- 1:09Speaker 1: we know.
- 1:10Speaker 2: The mystery is the how. And I don't mean how
- 1:12Speaker 2: he fell. I mean how does a man like wala
- 1:15Speaker 2: Zay had a successful pharmacist, a provider, and a tortured
- 1:19Speaker 2: and dead in his own apartment at the hands of
- 1:21Speaker 2: his in laws.
- 1:22Speaker 1: It's a complete psychological deep dive. It's about a toxic marriage, sure,
- 1:26Speaker 1: but it's also about societal pressure, about image and the
- 1:31Speaker 1: just the chilling idea that education has absolutely nothing to
- 1:35Speaker 1: do with Moraley like at all. So let's start with
- 1:36Speaker 1: Walalah himself, because if you were to sketch out a
- 1:39Speaker 1: typical victim of this kind of violence, he just he
- 1:42Speaker 1: doesn't fit the.
- 1:43Speaker 2: Profile, and not even a little bit. He was the
- 1:45Speaker 2: opposite of unstable. He graduated from Tanta University back in
- 1:48Speaker 2: twenty ten, a pharmacist making a great living in Saudi Arabia.
- 1:51Speaker 2: He was, for all intents and purposes, the golden boy.
- 1:55Speaker 1: The kind of guy every parent wants for their daughter.
- 1:57Speaker 2: Exactly respected family from Manufia, good repatation, just a solid
- 2:01Speaker 2: provider type guy.
- 2:02Speaker 1: So, okay, let's go to twenty thirteen. He's in Saudi
- 2:06Speaker 1: he's building this career and he meets a woman named Rima, and.
- 2:10Speaker 2: On paper, this is a match made in heaven. It's
- 2:12Speaker 2: almost too perfect. How so, Well, she's also a pharmacist.
- 2:17Speaker 2: Her father, doctor Handi, is a physician. They're all living
- 2:20Speaker 2: as Egyptian x pacts in Saudi, so you've got the
- 2:22Speaker 2: same profession, same social class. It just feels safe, it
- 2:26Speaker 2: makes sense.
- 2:27Speaker 1: So he calls his family, tells them, I think I
- 2:29Speaker 1: found her there. Ecstatic, But there's a decision made right
- 2:33Speaker 1: at the very beginning, before they're even married, that you
- 2:35Speaker 1: flagged as being kind of fatal.
- 2:38Speaker 2: It's the geography. It sounds so small, but it's everything.
- 2:42Speaker 2: Wella's family, his support system is in Minufia, but he
- 2:46Speaker 2: buys the marital apartment in hell Won Why because that's
- 2:49Speaker 2: where Reema's family lived. It was actually his own mother's advice,
- 2:51Speaker 2: you know, keep your wife close to her family. She'll
- 2:54Speaker 2: be happier. It's well intentioned, completely, but what it did
- 2:57Speaker 2: was isolate him. He voluntarily walked onto their home turf,
- 3:01Speaker 2: into a place where he would always always be the outside.
- 3:04Speaker 1: And it soured fast, isn't it. We're talking about the
- 3:06Speaker 1: first year being a complete nightmare for him, awful.
- 3:09Speaker 2: He's confiding in his sister, telling her about this profound neglect,
- 3:13Speaker 2: this coldness. He feels like he's just a bank account,
- 3:17Speaker 2: an accessory in his own marriage.
- 3:19Speaker 1: But this is where that societal pressure kicks in, right,
- 3:22Speaker 1: because the advice he gets isn't.
- 3:24Speaker 2: Leave, no, of course not. The advice is be patient,
- 3:27Speaker 2: It'll get better. This is just an adjustment. He's basically
- 3:30Speaker 2: told to just suck it up because that's what a
- 3:32Speaker 2: good man, a good husband does.
- 3:34Speaker 1: And then their son, Eyuns is born, and that changes
- 3:37Speaker 1: the calculation completely.
- 3:39Speaker 2: The child becomes the glue, or really the anchor. Well
- 3:43Speaker 2: All makes a decision. He thinks, Okay, I don't need
- 3:45Speaker 2: to be happy. I just need to be a father.
- 3:48Speaker 2: I can do this for my son.
- 3:49Speaker 1: But he couldn't, not forever. After a couple of years,
- 3:52Speaker 1: he just he hits a wall.
- 3:54Speaker 2: He divorces her. He says, I'll give you full financial
- 3:57Speaker 2: support for Uns. I'll pay for everything, but I can't
- 3:59Speaker 2: live like that. He tries to set a.
- 4:01Speaker 1: Boundary, tries being the operative word, because.
- 4:03Speaker 2: The family pressure machine just roars to life. His own family,
- 4:07Speaker 2: her family, think of the boy, don't destroy the home.
- 4:10Speaker 2: What will, people say.
- 4:11Speaker 1: And Rima herself. The notes say she didn't want him
- 4:14Speaker 1: back out of.
- 4:14Speaker 2: Love, not at all. The investigation showed he was about
- 4:17Speaker 2: two things, money because he was doing really well, and
- 4:20Speaker 2: pure possessiveness, a kind of toxic pride. She didn't want him,
- 4:24Speaker 2: but she couldn't stand the idea of anyone else.
- 4:26Speaker 1: Having him, So, of course, the cycle repeats. They get
- 4:29Speaker 1: back together, nothing changes, and he divorces her a second time,
- 4:34Speaker 1: and this.
- 4:34Speaker 2: Time it seems final. The AD, which is the Islamic
- 4:38Speaker 2: waiting period after a divorce, it actually passes. The marriage
- 4:41Speaker 2: is legally and religiously over.
- 4:43Speaker 1: They're done.
- 4:43Speaker 2: They're done, but she's manipulative. It's the id holiday, a
- 4:47Speaker 2: time for family. She calls him up with this perfect excuse.
- 4:50Speaker 2: I want to take Yunes to visit your parents.
- 4:53Speaker 1: It's a trojan horse, like.
- 4:54Speaker 2: A plea trojan horse. She gets herself back into his
- 4:56Speaker 2: family's home, uses the grandson and the pressure camp on.
- 5:00Speaker 2: Wallah starts all over again.
- 5:02Speaker 1: And he caves again, but he tries to set terms.
- 5:06Speaker 2: This time he does. He agrees to what he calls
- 5:08Speaker 2: a roommate marriage. He says, okay, we will remarry on
- 5:11Speaker 2: paper for you In's sake, but we are just co parents.
- 5:15Speaker 2: We live in the same house. That's it. No relationship.
- 5:18Speaker 1: It's a desperate compromise, it is.
- 5:20Speaker 2: But then she changes the deal again. She decides she's
- 5:23Speaker 2: staying in Egypt, tells him to go back to Saudi alone.
- 5:27Speaker 1: It's a power play, and he does. He goes back
- 5:28Speaker 1: to say and this is where everything shifts. He gets
- 5:31Speaker 1: into a horrific car accident.
- 5:32Speaker 2: Really bad. He's laid up in a hospital, all alone,
- 5:36Speaker 2: miles from anyone he knows, and his wife she does nothing,
- 5:41Speaker 2: no call, no visit, silence, complete abandonment. And for Wallah,
- 5:46Speaker 2: that's the final wake up call. He's lying in that
- 5:48Speaker 2: hospital bed, realizing he's completely utterly alone.
- 5:52Speaker 1: The thought that you're sending money home to someone who
- 5:54Speaker 1: wouldn't even call you when you're bleeding in a hospital, that's.
- 5:57Speaker 2: The moment the fog lifts. He realizes staying for the
- 6:00Speaker 2: child is just a slow death. So he calls his
- 6:02Speaker 2: family in Minufie and he says, find me a wife, a.
- 6:05Speaker 1: Real partner, And just to be clear, he's not cheating.
- 6:08Speaker 1: He's divorced from Rema in his mind, and he's ready
- 6:11Speaker 1: to move on.
- 6:11Speaker 2: Absolutely. He flies to Egypt. He officially marries a woman
- 6:15Speaker 2: named Riem. It's all legal. His plan is he started
- 6:18Speaker 2: a new life with her in Saudi.
- 6:19Speaker 1: But being the kind of guy he is, he feels
- 6:21Speaker 1: he has to tell Rema in person.
- 6:23Speaker 2: Yeah. He wants to reassure her that the support for
- 6:26Speaker 2: UNS won't change. He goes to her and breaks the news,
- 6:29Speaker 2: and her reaction isn't rage, it's not sadness.
- 6:32Speaker 1: It's cold, transactional. She asks about school fees, ice.
- 6:36Speaker 2: Cold, but underneath that she's already plotting. So Wala goes
- 6:40Speaker 2: to that apartment in Helen, back to enemy territory to
- 6:43Speaker 2: spend one last day with his son before his flight.
- 6:47Speaker 2: He thinks he's just saying goodbye.
- 6:48Speaker 1: He has no idea he's walking into an ambush, none
- 6:51Speaker 1: at all. So the morning of the crime, while is
- 6:53Speaker 1: in the apartment, there's a knock. Rema opens the door.
- 6:56Speaker 1: She's not surprised at all.
- 6:57Speaker 2: She was expecting them because there is her father, doctor Hamdi,
- 7:02Speaker 2: her two brothers, Ali and Mohammad, a doctor and an engineer,
- 7:06Speaker 2: and two of their friends who were also engineers.
- 7:08Speaker 1: This isn't a random group of thugs. This is an
- 7:11Speaker 1: educated professional lynch mob.
- 7:13Speaker 2: That's exactly what it is. And while he sees them
- 7:15Speaker 2: and he knows instantly. He runs to a room, locks.
- 7:18Speaker 1: The door, and he starts sending these frantic messages from
- 7:21Speaker 1: his phone. We have them. He's texting his sister, He's
- 7:24Speaker 1: texting the building's WhatsApp group. Thugs are in the house.
- 7:27Speaker 1: Save me.
- 7:27Speaker 2: He's begging for help, and then nothing. The message has
- 7:32Speaker 2: just stopped. They've broken down the door.
- 7:34Speaker 1: What they did to him in that room, it's just barbaric.
- 7:38Speaker 1: They tie him up, they beat him, and the whole
- 7:41Speaker 1: time his little boy uns is forced to watch.
- 7:44Speaker 2: It's pure psychological warfare, and it was calculated. This wasn't
- 7:48Speaker 2: just blind anger. They forced him to sign blank sales contracts,
- 7:51Speaker 2: cross for seats. They were literally beating his assets out
- 7:55Speaker 2: of him.
- 7:55Speaker 1: And then there's the phone call. Rema grabs his phone,
- 7:58Speaker 1: dials his new wife, ran.
- 8:00Speaker 2: And she holds the phone to his bruised face and
- 8:03Speaker 2: forces him to say the words to divorce this new woman.
- 8:07Speaker 2: She's destroying his future right in front of him, burning
- 8:09Speaker 2: every escape route.
- 8:10Speaker 1: It's unbelievably cruel. And then you find out Rima's mother
- 8:13Speaker 1: called during the assault.
- 8:14Speaker 2: Yeah, she's on the phone with Riemann tells her film
- 8:16Speaker 2: it film him being beaten, so we have it to
- 8:19Speaker 2: humiliate him later.
- 8:20Speaker 1: That's not a crime of passion. That is premeditated and
- 8:22Speaker 1: malicious evil.
- 8:23Speaker 2: It's a plan.
- 8:24Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the neighbors can hear all this, the screaming, the violence.
- 8:28Speaker 1: They go to the door, they knock.
- 8:30Speaker 2: They try to intervene, and doctor Hamdi, the father in law,
- 8:34Speaker 2: he opens the door and he uses his status as
- 8:37Speaker 2: a weapon. He just stands there and says it's a
- 8:39Speaker 2: family matter, go away.
- 8:40Speaker 1: He's the gatekeeper.
- 8:41Speaker 2: He is, and he's a doctor. He's an older man.
- 8:44Speaker 2: So the neighbors they hesitate, and in that one moment
- 8:49Speaker 2: of hesitation, it's.
- 8:51Speaker 1: Over a few moments later, as when they hear the thud,
- 8:54Speaker 1: Woila is on the pavement.
- 8:56Speaker 2: And instantly the family story is ready. They run down
- 8:59Speaker 2: and till everyone he jumped, He was mentally unstable. It
- 9:02Speaker 2: was suicide.
- 9:03Speaker 1: They were trying to create a new reality on the spot.
- 9:05Speaker 2: They were They thought their professional status, their reputation, would
- 9:09Speaker 2: protect them. But the forensics don't lie. The autopsy shows
- 9:12Speaker 2: he was severely tortured before the fall, and the suicide
- 9:16Speaker 2: story it makes no sense. The guy had a plane
- 9:18Speaker 2: ticket in his wallet and a new bride waiting. He
- 9:21Speaker 2: was escaping, not giving up.
- 9:22Speaker 1: And then came the one witness. They couldn't control.
- 9:24Speaker 2: The little boy, Yeah, yuns. Once the police got Hi
- 9:27Speaker 2: away from the family, he told him everything. He said,
- 9:29Speaker 2: I saw them hitting Baba and then he pointed at
- 9:32Speaker 2: one of the friends and said he threw them.
- 9:34Speaker 1: Oh my god, a child identifying his father's killer.
- 9:38Speaker 2: It broke the entire case open. The court saw right
- 9:42Speaker 2: through their respectable family act. The father and brothers got
- 9:45Speaker 2: fifteen years hard labor. The friends got ten.
- 9:48Speaker 1: It's justice, I guess, but it just leaves you with
- 9:51Speaker 1: this awful feeling. Well, Llaw wasn't killed by some random criminal.
- 9:55Speaker 1: He was killed by people with degrees on their walls.
- 9:58Speaker 2: And that's the terrifying paradoxes. We assume education equals empathy
- 10:02Speaker 2: or rationality, but this just proves that a degree doesn't
- 10:05Speaker 2: make you a good person. Greed, rage, pride, they don't
- 10:10Speaker 2: care if you're a doctor or an engineer.
- 10:11Speaker 1: It also makes you question that phrase it's a family matter.
- 10:14Speaker 1: Those words were a death sentence for Wolaw.
- 10:17Speaker 2: They were. It makes you wonder, you know, when does
- 10:20Speaker 2: our respect for privacy become a form of complicity. If
- 10:23Speaker 2: those neighbors had just pushed past that old man at
- 10:25Speaker 2: the door, would Wallaw still be alive?
- 10:27Speaker 1: And that's the question I think we should end on.
- 10:30Speaker 1: The Next time you hear something through a wall and
- 10:32Speaker 1: your first thought is I should mind my own business,
- 10:34Speaker 1: just remember the pharmacist of hell Onan, Because sometimes the
- 10:38Speaker 1: most violent places are hidden behind the most respectable doors.
- 10:41Speaker 2: A chilling thought.
- 10:42Speaker 1: That's our deep dive for today. Thank you for joining us.
- 10:45Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time.