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Premier League Week 6 - On the Edge Sports Podcast · On The Edge Sports Podcast

0:15
SPEAKER_01: Hello and welcome to another On the Edge Premier League special.
0:18
SPEAKER_01: We're gonna get straight into it.
0:19
SPEAKER_01: I'm here with Darren Kearns, my co-host.
0:21
SPEAKER_01: Darren at the weekend, us Arsenal men were happy at the end, not for a while.
0:25
SPEAKER_01: They were very flat, I thought, didn't really get going.
0:28
SPEAKER_01: And then of course Bruno Gamari's and I was listening to Declan Rice interview there.
0:32
SPEAKER_01: Bruno had said to him like he was jumping to come on.
0:34
SPEAKER_01: Then when he came on, he says, Give me the ball, give me the ball.
0:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
0:36
SPEAKER_00: He did it in spectacular splash.
0:38
SPEAKER_00: Look at it, it was it was hard fought win.
0:41
SPEAKER_00: Um I watched it.
0:43
SPEAKER_00: Leeds low block sat in, and Leeds are a good team at the moment, they really are.
0:48
SPEAKER_00: They're well drilled, with some great results, you know, and they've good players throughout.
0:52
SPEAKER_00: And you know, coming to the Emirates Stadium, they were, I'm sure they would have taken a point before the game, and then they go a goal up.
1:00
SPEAKER_00: And Arteta, to his credit, he's put a squad together.
1:04
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1:21
SPEAKER_00: There's not much point having a squad if you don't use the squad.
1:23
SPEAKER_00: They were in bother on that game.
1:25
SPEAKER_00: He turns around and he makes three substitutions at the same time, puts them all on, and turns the game around in about a ten or twelve minute spell and kind of flex their muscles.
1:35
SPEAKER_00: And great goal by Bruno Gamerish again.
1:38
SPEAKER_00: Great goal, great team move.
1:40
SPEAKER_00: Well set up, and he finished into the bottom corner and got the three points badly needed after the result before the international break against Brighton.
1:48
SPEAKER_00: They didn't want the negativity to keep going, and then questions happen second season.
1:53
SPEAKER_00: And uh I said it before, I hate them early Saturday morning games.
1:57
SPEAKER_00: I think they're huge, huge, huge potential banana skin for the team that should be winning the game.
2:03
SPEAKER_00: And don't get me wrong, let's let's be honest about things here.
2:05
SPEAKER_00: Arsenal should be beating Leeds at home.
2:07
SPEAKER_00: That's the reality of it.
2:08
SPEAKER_00: If you want to be champions, you just have to do it.
2:09
SPEAKER_01: I text my brother who's also an Arsenal fan in the middle of it, and it's gone, like, yeah, you can be praising Leeds all you want, and they were good, but you go, ah no, come on, if you're the real champions, you can't let you that.
2:19
SPEAKER_01: I think it said everything that Gummarish got man of the match.
2:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there wasn't, and I I got to be watched most of the game, but there didn't seem to be any Arsenal players on the pitch that were really good.
2:28
SPEAKER_00: Lots of lots of mistakes was like an international break, hangover.
2:31
SPEAKER_00: Um one of these things, it is what it is, and it's uh in them in them little tight games is about winning the games, coming out on top, and when you're a goal down, you turn around to your bench, you have to make a big money signing, put him on the pitch, let him see can he go and win the game, and bang, yeah, bottom corner.
2:50
SPEAKER_01: And a hand tip to Cala Fiori, like that man is just on fire this this season.
2:54
SPEAKER_01: Someone said if he keeps going this week at player of the year, like let him stay fit, let him stay fit, touch one.
2:57
SPEAKER_01: That's a big one, isn't it?
2:58
SPEAKER_01: You know, so Aston Villa, sorry, Arsenal finished 2-1.
3:00
SPEAKER_01: If anyone didn't know, uh Villa two, Brentford two.
3:03
SPEAKER_01: Uh again, a bit of an up and down game.
3:04
SPEAKER_01: Brentford took the lead, then Nicholas Jackson, who's maybe finding a little bit of form for Villa, drew level before John McGain put them in the lead, but then of course Brentford came back, and they're in fourth now, Brentford.
3:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but good too.
3:15
SPEAKER_01: You know, Keith Andrews and uh Ayer, Ayer, Azure Azure, whatever you want to call him, you know around about it, yeah, comes up with a 79th minute leveler.
3:22
SPEAKER_01: Um, so look, Brentford, they seem to just keep going season on season.
3:27
SPEAKER_01: They're they seem to get even three percent better every year.
3:29
SPEAKER_00: I know they do, I know they do, and like Keith Andrews has them well drilled, he really does.
3:33
SPEAKER_00: And probably a bigger result for Ass and Villa than it was for Brentford, really.
3:38
SPEAKER_00: Like, because like Assan Villa are hovering around that little bottom four or five teams at the moment.
3:44
SPEAKER_00: You know, and when they go into the lead like that, like it's it's it's it's unlike a team we call it an uh uh Emory team, like you know, it's unlike them to give up a lead after going ahead with 10 or 12 minutes left.
3:56
SPEAKER_00: But Brentford, you know, no bad team, and they keep at it and they they they don't press the panic button and they just keep motoring and they got their just rewards later on.
4:05
SPEAKER_01: And again, we we've kind of we've been giving a bit of leeway to Villa.
4:08
SPEAKER_01: Like, I mean, there's a lot of new players still in that team.
4:10
SPEAKER_01: Uh so and again, look at it was Nicholas Jackson's come in there the last couple of games for as I'm wearing, and he's starting to find a bit of form.
4:16
SPEAKER_01: So look, maybe Emery will start becoming more than that.
4:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but I think and no more than anything else, like like Aston Villa's losses Arsenal's reward, like with Ezri Consa.
4:25
SPEAKER_00: Like it's a huge hole to fill in the Aston Villa defence, like you know, and like like for as an Arsenal supporter, I'm delighted we have him.
4:32
SPEAKER_00: And but like you know, he he kept an awful lot of stuff together for Villa last season, and like he had obviously you take Tielemans out of the team also in midfield, who was their general there in midfield, and they have a couple of injuries as well.
4:44
SPEAKER_00: So they're you know, they're they're just about kind of finding their feet the last few games, like there was the first two or three games that hadn't scored a goal.
4:53
SPEAKER_00: You mentioned Nicholas Jackson there.
4:54
SPEAKER_00: You know, is he the answer to their problems?
4:57
SPEAKER_00: Maybe not.
4:58
SPEAKER_00: Can he score a few goals?
4:59
SPEAKER_00: He probably can if you give him enough of the ball.
5:01
SPEAKER_01: So about Villa getting strikers, whether it was uh Rashford went to them, played well, he can't do well at United.
5:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was the Real Madrid fellow that they got a couple of seasons ago as well, and he came in and scored a pile of goals at the end of the season.
5:10
SPEAKER_01: I can't remember his name now, but like they all seem to get these strikers on though under Alta Blue, yeah, and they seem to do well, you know.
5:16
SPEAKER_01: So, look, as I said, they they're they're probably disappointed though at the end with drawing at home.
5:20
SPEAKER_01: Uh, then we had Chelsea, sorry, 5-1 Bournemouth really looking in trouble.
5:25
SPEAKER_01: They're down in 18th, like uh Chelsea scored for two minutes and then a minute into the second half as well.
5:30
SPEAKER_01: So, like if Nielsen had got a goal back from them, he thought, oh, maybe this is the first time.
5:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, two-nil 2-0 up after three minutes.
5:35
SPEAKER_01: Three minutes, yeah.
5:35
SPEAKER_01: And like Morgan Rogers again, in fairness to him, uh as Arsenal men were kind of going, Oh, wouldn't have minded if we got him.
5:41
SPEAKER_01: Definitely not, yeah.
5:41
SPEAKER_01: It would have been a totally different animal down our line.
5:43
SPEAKER_00: But Chelsea are good at home, they really are.
5:46
SPEAKER_00: Um, Alonso has them ticking along pretty nicely, like Jordan Henderson there.
5:51
SPEAKER_00: I don't know, I've seen some crazy stat about the last time that he scored two goals in a game, or the last time that he scored a free kick, a direct free kick in a game, or has he ever scored a direct free kick?
6:01
SPEAKER_00: Like he put one into the top in.
6:03
SPEAKER_00: Um Palmer was beside him.
6:06
SPEAKER_00: Looked like Palmer was going to take it.
6:07
SPEAKER_00: I'm pretty sure that the Bourbon keeper was was sure that he's gonna take it as well.
6:11
SPEAKER_00: Ex-Chelsea keeper.
6:12
SPEAKER_00: Um, but Henderson whipped around the wall and he puts it into the top corner.
6:16
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, Bourbert are struggling.
6:19
SPEAKER_01: They can seem to click, and look, I mean, they did lose an amazing manager.
6:22
SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, like when they're a new manager in, they've lost a few players.
6:25
SPEAKER_00: And Kruppy Jr.
6:26
SPEAKER_00: is still injured, isn't that it?
6:27
SPEAKER_01: So, I mean, like, look, look, I think there's there's enough ingredients there to not go down or antonite that there's, yeah.
6:32
SPEAKER_01: They need to find that form fairly soon now.
6:33
SPEAKER_01: Big time, big time.
6:34
SPEAKER_00: And Chelsea are permanent away nicely at home, they really are.
6:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, Chelsea, look, they're doing it sixth already.
6:41
SPEAKER_01: They're five points behind us, sorry, Arsenal, and eight behind City.
6:44
SPEAKER_01: So, again, for all their promise, like they can do it at home, but they just don't seem to be able to do it away from home.
6:49
SPEAKER_01: You know, so look, we'll see.
6:51
SPEAKER_00: I suppose Alonso's come in and it's probably about getting the fans on side.
6:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and uh, nothing like home wins and big home wins, and score goals, score goals entertained the fans.
6:59
SPEAKER_01: Are they the only team to beat Brighton and arrives and saying?
7:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think so.
7:02
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, that not everyone can do that.
7:03
SPEAKER_01: So, look how that's a good mark for them.
7:05
SPEAKER_01: Ipswich two, Fulham won again.
7:07
SPEAKER_01: Uh it was late on Darrow Shea, the Irish man coming up with I think it was a header, was it?
7:11
SPEAKER_01: From the set piece.
7:12
unknown: Yeah.
7:13
SPEAKER_00: Again, Fulham down in 20th, down in bottom.
7:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like Fulham needed that win.
7:17
SPEAKER_00: And you could see when they scored, they scored late on.
7:20
SPEAKER_00: Very good goal by Session from the edge of the box.
7:22
SPEAKER_00: Paul broke to him, got it out of his feet, and he put it into the bottom corner.
7:25
SPEAKER_00: And you're thinking that they're going to go ahead and win it, you know, against uh newly promoted team in Ipswich.
7:29
SPEAKER_00: Then Ipswich come up with a cracking goal in the 88th minute.
7:33
SPEAKER_00: Wattara 88th.
7:35
SPEAKER_00: Like a great shot.
7:39
SPEAKER_00: The camera catches it right behind when it left his boot.
7:41
SPEAKER_00: It was going no place else but into the far corner of the net.
7:44
SPEAKER_00: And then Dareshead, it's great to see an Irishman score in the Premier League.
7:48
SPEAKER_00: He's club captain at Ipswich.
7:49
SPEAKER_00: When he got when they got relegated a couple of seasons ago, he had plenty of suitors were after him because he's a right good centre half, he really is.
7:56
SPEAKER_00: But he stuck with them and played with them in the championship last year.
8:00
SPEAKER_00: He's now club captain and he came up with the winner late on.
8:03
SPEAKER_00: And then right at the death end, Fulham had a chance to equalise.
8:06
SPEAKER_00: Ball was put back across the box, and the Ipswich keeper, who his head is nearly touching the bottom of the cross where he's that tall, he sticks out a big long left leg and touches it around the around the post to give Ipswich three points, and Ipswich are going okay.
8:19
SPEAKER_01: They really are level at Liverpool and Hull.
8:22
SPEAKER_01: Uh so they never thought, and Leeds, you know, their joint, yeah.
8:25
SPEAKER_00: You could say their joint seventh.
8:26
SPEAKER_00: And whereas on the flip side of that, Fulham are not, like they needed that win.
8:29
SPEAKER_00: They really needed to be.
8:32
SPEAKER_01: So they really haven't got ticken yet with their new manager.
8:34
SPEAKER_01: But they have a few new positive signans.
8:36
SPEAKER_01: I was reading about them for the weekend.
8:37
SPEAKER_01: There's a few players there that have uh there's a forward, I'm gonna get it wrong.
8:40
SPEAKER_01: Is it Garcia or Silva or something?
8:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Garcia, I think, yeah.
8:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and like there are people saying, look, he's actually been doing well and he's like XG, whatever.
8:48
SPEAKER_01: There's kind of a few stats kind of leaning to us.
8:50
SPEAKER_01: Look, he's getting there, he's getting there, he's getting chances, but I mean, look at they need him to put them in the net now, I suppose.
8:54
SPEAKER_01: Uh next up, then we had uh Sunderland 0 Brighton, Brighton on the march again.
8:59
SPEAKER_01: Uh 2-0 de Kuiper De Kuiper and Hadjam.
9:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and they had got a red card.
9:05
SPEAKER_00: So like Struck got sent off for pulling a man down when he was true on goal, went uh ref it and give it initially, went to VR, and he was told denying of a goal scoring opportunity, issued the red card.
9:17
SPEAKER_00: At the time, Brighton were goal up, yeah.
9:20
SPEAKER_00: And you're thinking, okay, Sutherland, man up here at home, they'll kick on and then Brobby was after getting a hat-trick before, but was he missing?
9:27
SPEAKER_00: No, Brobby's gone for a few months when he got injured in the international break, which is a huge loss to them because the problem you know, he's a really they don't get hat-tricks too often now, and he had just got one.
9:34
SPEAKER_00: So but no, they didn't.
9:37
SPEAKER_00: Brighton, who after having a great win before the international break against Arsenal, you know, backed it up with go to the stadium at late was no easy place to be going to either, and they get a goal in injury time, then hit Sunderland on the counter-attack, and that substitute Hajam, who was after coming on, finishes into the bottom corner.
9:52
SPEAKER_00: Very good, very good goal.
9:54
SPEAKER_00: And I like Brighton, I really do.
9:56
SPEAKER_00: I think they're a right good team.
9:58
SPEAKER_01: It's a psyching team to watch, you know, proper front foot football, yeah, go at it.
10:02
SPEAKER_00: Uh high pressing.
10:03
SPEAKER_00: You know, you take the ball off them, they go in numbers to win it back.
10:07
SPEAKER_00: Like if you're listening to the interview that the manager gave, they have five seconds to get it back.
10:12
SPEAKER_00: And if you don't work hard enough in the training game, you know, you're gonna hear it or you're gonna get it double the barrels, like you know, we'll call it the hairdryer tree.
10:20
SPEAKER_01: And like there's not many players in their team that you go absolute superstars.
10:23
SPEAKER_01: Pascal Gross is probably a household name of sorts.
10:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's he's probably the wrong side of the 13, also, like you know, they've lost a lot of players, as we said already.
10:29
SPEAKER_01: Like, so and then of course they lost a man in on the in the game.
10:32
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, yeah, no, De Cooper, uh, Gross, these guys, they're they're really coming up with the goods.
10:37
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, no, it'll be looking fair played and they're kind of a team you you'd enjoy to see you doing because they played nice football.
10:42
SPEAKER_00: And it's a good result for them, it really is.
10:44
SPEAKER_01: Uh Palace 3, Forrest one.
10:46
SPEAKER_01: Uh look, I mean, they're both, neither team is absolutely flying.
10:50
SPEAKER_00: No, so like this is I suppose this was the kind of the the manager had had left Palace and had gone to Forrest, you know what I mean?
10:59
SPEAKER_00: And then Forrest go into the lead early on.
11:01
SPEAKER_00: With like I was watching the start of this game, and uh Palace, they were like should have been one or two up right at the start of the game.
11:11
SPEAKER_00: Forrest go down the field, they get a ball over the top on a counter-attack and uh score a goal.
11:17
SPEAKER_00: Very good finish, you know.
11:18
SPEAKER_00: Indoi, I think it is third minute that scored, and then you're thinking, okay, here we go again for Palace because they've been in bad enough form, but the next thing they get goals and Kamada and you know what I mean, and there was the the keeper for Palace, is it uh Benitez Benitez never heard even heard of him some of the saves he made, really, but they were more so ridiculous misses like DeLap had an absolute crazy miss.
11:48
SPEAKER_00: So the ball was taken, Morgan Gibbs White takes a shot, takes a bit of a deflection, hits the underside of the crossbar, keeper is on the deck, gets up, and DeLap has to like for all the world, he should have just side footed into the bottom corner, you know.
11:59
SPEAKER_00: He goes to put the lacers through it, hits the ball as hard as he can.
12:03
SPEAKER_00: Benitez is after getting up off the ground, hits him straight in the chest.
12:06
SPEAKER_00: Great save.
12:07
SPEAKER_00: But that should have been a goal for Forrest.
12:08
SPEAKER_00: And Chris Wood had a header late on in the game.
12:11
SPEAKER_00: Again, he should have put it into the bottom corner, put tries putting too much power into it, and Benitez saved it.
12:17
SPEAKER_00: Benite's came up with a couple of big saves, and you're saying you never heard of him.
12:20
SPEAKER_00: I had never heard of it because Dean Henderson is playing in goals for Palace with the last few seasons.
12:24
SPEAKER_00: So, as a backup keeper, when he goes in like that, he just wants to be showing himself off, and he threw himself about and he went a long way for them to get the three points.
12:32
SPEAKER_00: He really did.
12:32
SPEAKER_01: I just see there that like uh Nottingham Farrell said 20 shots, but only six on target.
12:37
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, they need to maybe find the the shooting boots there.
12:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, uh Hull to Everton to uh again.
12:44
SPEAKER_01: This was this a draw written all over.
12:45
SPEAKER_01: Two teams that are kind of, as you'd say, evenly matched, Hull able to take a few goals this season, whereas Everton maybe more solid defensively.
12:52
SPEAKER_01: Everton up to fifth now, Hull in eighth, but again, there's not a whole lot between them.
12:56
SPEAKER_01: No uh Everton on ten and Hull on nine.
12:58
SPEAKER_01: So two teams I'd say very happy after their first five.
13:01
SPEAKER_00: Hull went into the lead.
13:02
SPEAKER_00: Gellhart, I think he signed in from Leeds United.
13:05
SPEAKER_00: That's right, Joe Gelhart, 48th minute.
13:07
SPEAKER_00: Great, great goal, lovely little clip across the key Jordan Pickford as he was coming out, and then that kind of ignited Everton into it.
13:14
SPEAKER_00: And Maitland Niles, who had made a mistake for the opening goal, he comes down the field and he puts in a great ball for Jewsbury Hall to get a header at the back post, finishes, and then that man that's in a rich fan form, Tierno Barry.
13:27
SPEAKER_00: That's right, you know, he gets he gets a great goal, and you're thinking that Everton are going to go ahead here and grasp the three points, and then like Jordan Pickford lets in a goal at the end again.
13:36
SPEAKER_00: It was a it was a you know, it was a decent enough shot, but this is this man Balumi, they got the couple of goals against uh Chelsea, wasn't it?
13:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was, yeah.
13:44
SPEAKER_00: Um but Jordan Picker gets two hands to it, and anybody that watches it back, like like I've said it before, like the top keepers keep them out.
13:52
SPEAKER_00: You're getting two hands to the ball, you you know, you push them around the post, you put them out of danger.
13:57
SPEAKER_00: Like too often, Jordan Pickford pushes them into the net, and he pushes into the net, ball goes into the corner of the net, and hull rescue a point for themselves late on.
14:05
SPEAKER_01: Uh, then we had uh well, I'm gonna leave Liverpool City till the end.
14:10
SPEAKER_01: Uh uh Saturday evening, sorry, Manchester United won, Tottenham won.
14:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, uh another really bad day of the office.
14:16
SPEAKER_01: I was listening to Gary Neville afterwards.
14:17
SPEAKER_01: He was like really not happy.
14:18
SPEAKER_01: He thought their last game was the worst performance of his life, and I don't think it's five years of age.
14:23
SPEAKER_01: This this doesn't seem to have put him in any good mood at all.
14:26
SPEAKER_00: Um, like and I only seen the end of this Solanke, just this deft little flick of a ball that Tottenham never taught him in battered United, they really did, they bet them into the goals, and like it's no more than anything else.
14:37
SPEAKER_00: If if like you're talking if Spurs had a goal scorer, you know, they'd win this game comfortably, we'd say three or four-one, whatever it may be.
14:46
SPEAKER_00: Like, and that's probably Spurs' problem that they don't have a reliable goal scorer.
14:51
SPEAKER_00: And like I know that Solanke came up and rescued the point for them, but he's just he takes too many chances before he can score a goal.
14:57
SPEAKER_01: He's been there how long?
14:57
SPEAKER_01: And he and like at the time I was like, Oh, Arsenal should have bought him, just a good box striker, but he's not fully.
15:02
SPEAKER_00: But then United go down the field and they get a good goal, like uh they do, and it was against the runner play, and then Boom puts it into the bottom corner, and you're thinking, you know, all right, okay.
15:12
SPEAKER_00: And then Spurs hit a bit of a panic button, and Bent Ancore, who has a real short fuse anyway, himself and Luke Shaw get involved in a bit of Argy Bargy.
15:21
SPEAKER_00: And you know, there was a probably Luke Shaw was lucky enough to only get a yellow card himself, he really was, but Bentoncore puts his head towards him, and just sit like you can have no excuse if you put your head near someone.
15:31
SPEAKER_00: I know Luke Shaw went down as if he was he did, yeah.
15:34
SPEAKER_00: But he gets the red card, and you're thinking United will see it out here against ten men.
15:38
SPEAKER_00: And for all the world, the game was Peter and out, and then Solankia just kind of, as you mentioned, gets a death touch to a kind of a nothing ball into the box there.
15:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you kind of go no, is it gonna then he just gets the perfect little amount of tartini?
15:50
SPEAKER_01: I don't even need the fully inventedness.
15:52
SPEAKER_00: Probably not, like it just kind of landed the right party's heads.
15:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and Spurs get out there with a point, and again the booze ring out around Old Trafford again, same as at half time and the same as at full time.
16:02
SPEAKER_00: Would it have been an awful lot different if they had got the three points?
16:05
SPEAKER_00: It probably would have, because football fans are very fickle, you know what I mean?
16:08
SPEAKER_01: Like how many games, even Arsenal, like there's games there that going, well, we could have drawn that or lost that, but we got it, you know what I mean.
16:13
SPEAKER_01: So you can paper over the cracks an awful lot, but United down the 13th now.
16:17
SPEAKER_01: Again, that's not too dramatic this time of season, but they're already 12 points behind.
16:20
SPEAKER_01: Well, we should we did we do we disregard City's 80 points or how do we do it though?
16:25
SPEAKER_01: But whatever we do, they are 12 points technically behind the city.
16:27
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, like it's it's like it's you just think that the future is bleak for Carrick because the way that football is nowadays, and it's a results business, and what United have done over the last few seasons, you know, they just get rid of their manager, but the problem is not really the manager to a certain degree it is, but it's the same players that he's having to play with.
16:47
SPEAKER_00: Do you know what I mean?
16:48
SPEAKER_00: Like there's and like they made a couple of sign-ins, like the likes of Tielemans came in and the likes of Santos came in there, but like they're they need to be playing in a proper system.
16:56
SPEAKER_00: Like I think it was Jamie Carricker highlighted on Monday Night Football.
16:59
SPEAKER_00: Why Tielemans was so good at Aston Villa was because he had loads of bodies around him, which were the legs, he was the playmaker, he didn't have to do them runs as much closing down guys, and like I know Baliba come on for United the last night, and he is supposed to be you know they kind of say him and Menu could be the future of their midfield, but I don't think you class either them as an absolute superstar.
17:20
SPEAKER_01: Believe it, maybe more so.
17:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, maybe not.
17:22
SPEAKER_00: Like I suppose the ceiling is pretty high, but if that's the case, you need to be getting Baliba in beside Tielemans and not hooking Tielemans for Baliba or vice versa, whatever it may be, like you know.
17:32
SPEAKER_00: But again, I suppose Spurs will be looking at it's probably a big point for Spurs if they had lost that game, like after being so dominant in the game, red card, more aggro about that alone, then people going, Oh, you're forgetting red card at all.
17:44
SPEAKER_01: Do you know what I mean?
17:59
SPEAKER_00: Like, and I suppose they'll be thinking, look, we played well, we kind of have turned the corner, or have we turned the corner, you know, but they need to be able to find in the net.
18:07
SPEAKER_01: And are are Spurs uh other people can tell me quicker, me now, who's actually missing now?
18:11
SPEAKER_01: Is it Kudasevsky's the only one really that's not yeah, that's probably not just looking here at the at the match.
18:16
SPEAKER_01: Like some Madison came back, Fernandez came on, Marmoush, Bentoncour, Van De Ven.
18:20
SPEAKER_01: So pretty much everyone is a Kudosevsky, I think, is the only one.
18:23
SPEAKER_00: So probably is, yeah.
18:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so where's the solution?
18:27
SPEAKER_01: And I mean, like most people have said the likes of Kudos coming in, like you're going to God, this is a Tonali.
18:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, you kind of thought these guys are gonna take off.
18:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he was, but he was he was probably good in the game Tonale as well.
18:37
SPEAKER_00: He he he was he was uh you know like breaking up the play, getting forward.
18:42
SPEAKER_00: He probably could have scored one or two himself, you know, that he might have been scored for Newcastle last season, like you know, probably just need a bit of luck, also.
18:48
SPEAKER_00: So they do.
18:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, these things can just go that way.
18:51
SPEAKER_01: Uh, and before we get to the last the final game, we'll talk about we'll go to just Coventry for Newcastle Nil.
18:56
SPEAKER_01: And this was we're recording on a Tuesday, and last night, their first home Premier League win in 25 years, and again, I didn't get to see it, but I would say there was some party with that one.
19:06
SPEAKER_01: Uh unbelievable for them to see.
19:08
SPEAKER_01: And again, I look like as I said, I didn't get to see it, but uh Rundoni was a great goal.
19:13
SPEAKER_01: Did you see the goal guy?
19:14
SPEAKER_00: There were great goals throughout the match, like like the there was so just go to Botman's goal for Newcastle.
19:20
SPEAKER_00: For anybody that hasn't seen it, talk about an unstoppable goal with his left foot into the top corner, like you know, and it was like he had just decided this game is over and done with.
19:31
SPEAKER_00: I am just letting fly because he probably shouldn't have been shooting where he was shooting from.
19:35
SPEAKER_00: And the keeper, if you if you look at what when when you do look at it, just watch what the keeper was doing.
19:40
SPEAKER_00: And I think the keeper thought the ball was going wide and it nestles into the top corner because he died full length, but it was kind of like he was looking at it trying to go around the post.
19:48
SPEAKER_00: But Coventry, like Coventry got a couple of goals themselves that were absolute clinkers, they really were 2-1 at 17th minutes, like, but then they pushed on.
19:57
SPEAKER_01: So who got them?
19:58
SPEAKER_01: Sheriff Sims and the 83rd.
20:00
SPEAKER_00: Rudani got a penalty early on in the game.
20:03
SPEAKER_00: Um uh bad decision by the Newcastle keeper.
20:06
SPEAKER_00: He a ball came at him, he f he uh dropped it at kind of a clanger, and he comes out, and you know the same thing that Dode double up with a mistake, and he dives.
20:18
SPEAKER_00: Coventry striker gets a foot to the ball, he takes his feet from under him, and Rodani comes up and slots it home into the bottom corner, and then that sheriff guy got a great goal, great bullet into the far corner.
20:30
SPEAKER_00: Ellis Sims, who's after coming off the bench, it was a kind of a ball bounce around the edge of the box.
20:36
SPEAKER_00: It it was like there was probably two fouls in it, and I think that the ref had given two advantages, and Sims throws a foot on it, and it goes into the far corner after taking deflection off a Newcastle guy, and then right at the debt, then that Mufani fellows yeah, yeah, he gets another great goal in off the post as well.
20:53
SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay.
20:54
SPEAKER_01: Look, I love seeing a new team like that come up, and I mean they're a proper traditional Optop.
20:59
SPEAKER_00: But again, a lot of question marks in Newcastle there, and like what they're we'll call it the rookie manager there, like you know, like he's uh that going to Coventry is no easy place to be going, and when you're going to a newly promoted team, it's like you have to have all your ducks in order, and again, they have a lot of guys there that have left the club and they probably haven't replaced them with the right players, so it's something that Newcastle will be looking at, but Coventry would be absolutely delighted.
21:25
SPEAKER_00: That's a huge win for Coventry, it really is.
21:26
SPEAKER_01: And finally, uh, I mean the game that like uh okay, obviously we're we're rival fans because we're Arsenal fans, and it's Man City.
21:34
SPEAKER_01: They would look they beat Liverpool 3-0 at Anfield.
21:37
SPEAKER_01: Look, great performance, great result, fair enough.
21:39
SPEAKER_01: But I've never in my life in watching Premier League seen everyone from every kind of journalist, the pundits on the tans.
21:46
SPEAKER_01: You could nearly see there was nearly a false kind of bravado to the city fans going, Oh, we'll just put on a brave face here, going, Oh, the only people that are believing us is ourselves, and we don't even believe it.
21:57
SPEAKER_01: They're not even believing it, no, they couldn't be honestly believing it.
21:59
SPEAKER_01: Like, and as I said, I think the sooner the fans and everyone in the club goes, let's stop here, put our hands up, reset and restart, and we will come back.
22:09
SPEAKER_01: But at the moment it's turned into a sham, and even Gary Neville said, Take me off Man City Games, yeah.
22:13
SPEAKER_01: So sure, but you can't, you can't get into it.
22:15
SPEAKER_00: I don't know why I like like I don't know where it's gonna go or how it's gonna end up.
22:20
SPEAKER_00: Like everybody is saying what should happen, right?
22:23
SPEAKER_00: Nobody knows what's gonna happen because at the end of the day, right?
22:26
SPEAKER_00: They so the charges were there and they were over their head for.
22:29
SPEAKER_00: So long, and then they come back, and the court then comes back and says, Well, they're guilty on ninety-eight percent of the charges, okay.
22:38
SPEAKER_00: And they then they go into the nitty-gritty of the amount of money that it's going for, right?
22:42
SPEAKER_00: So it's up on the they had 900 million, and then it was 800 of that was false, we call it.
22:46
SPEAKER_00: And you go to what the penalty that Everton got a couple of seasons ago for being 25 million over on their budget or in their budget.
22:54
SPEAKER_01: So they are far someone got like three points or something deductible for one, yeah.
22:57
SPEAKER_00: One misdemeanor, let's call it one and and Everton got the nine points in the middle of the season.
23:03
SPEAKER_01: Yes, and I can't understand right like if they did that now and said take all your trophies off you, deduct the points now, you can appeal it off you go, but it's now because at least then the Premier League can reset, and everyone goes right now, we're back to where we were.
23:17
SPEAKER_01: And I think like not because I'm an Arsenal fan, because I'm a football fan, and I go, You hate the whole thing being destroyed by it really is it's it it takes away from the fact that don't get me wrong, right?
23:29
SPEAKER_00: City have some great players, right?
23:32
SPEAKER_00: And obviously that man Halland you know rattles one in the opening goal and Turkey gets the last one.
23:38
SPEAKER_01: You kind of go, we don't even really care.
23:40
SPEAKER_01: Do got a great goal as well.
23:41
SPEAKER_01: But like and like I'm I like none of those would be there if the house of cards hadn't been built.
23:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so what you're looking at is it's a complete false dawn, and obviously, but it has more of an implication on the teams that they're playing now because they're likes in Liverpool losing 3-0 at home, and then an awful lot of talk is about the Gravenburch sending off since that and in every paper that you pick up or every social media app that you open on your phone, it's all talking about the red card or the Gravenburch.
24:10
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like there's only a certain element of people that are talking about well, what's gonna happen with Man City?
24:16
SPEAKER_00: Do you know what I mean?
24:17
SPEAKER_00: Like, and and like and until it actually does happen, it's going to keep raising its head because like more often than not, they're going to win most games, they really are.
24:27
SPEAKER_00: And you're like, Well, like, are you gonna do anything about this?
24:32
SPEAKER_01: But uh apart from that, uh, how many games now has there been a bad ref decision?
24:36
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so the Man United game that was wasn't that told that was wrong.
24:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, uh Elliot Anderson handballed, was that given?
24:41
SPEAKER_01: Did they say I was?
24:43
SPEAKER_01: They didn't go okay, but there was a lot of things.
24:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they came up with something to say that why it wasn't handballed because it hit his other hand first.
24:49
SPEAKER_01: Is there three games that they've had really dodges in?
24:52
SPEAKER_01: And like a lot of people say Graven Burch, like it was it was um okay, maybe one of them was deserving of the game.
24:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, maybe maybe at a push, the second one might have been a yellow, but the first one on Elliot Anderson was the furthest removed by the yellow card, like it it it was a foul, yeah, and Elliot Anderson takes two steps and then falls, and he still gets the yellow card.
25:12
SPEAKER_00: Do you know what I mean?
25:13
SPEAKER_01: And again, it was one of the pundits kind of saying, like, if you're talking to the ref for the game going, look at read the room here.
25:19
SPEAKER_01: Like, you're at Anfield, you're up against, let's call it for whatever you want to call it, the bad guys at the moment.
25:25
SPEAKER_01: You gotta be sure if you're giving a wrong decision that you go, you need to you need to make sure that you double double check everything, like, and go, yeah, I know it's it's it's it's it's strange times, and it's like it's it's you know, we call it as it is, it's a sham at the moment.
25:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it is a sham.
25:41
SPEAKER_01: And if they if they appeal now, even and they get completely cleared of everything, I don't think anyone will believe it.
25:47
SPEAKER_01: I think they'll go, There's been some behind-the-scenes rumblings and mess going on, and even Andy Burnham now is gonna have to do some Freedom of Information Act apparently or uh release the information, I should say.
25:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, as we know that's like gonna go and could get blog could get messy before it gets better, but yeah, I just as I said, I just hope that the punishment's dealt out heavily and as you mentioned there.
26:07
SPEAKER_00: This is coming from football fans, not just Arsenal fans, and of course.
26:10
SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, and people might say, Oh, Arsenal fans like, no, then if you're if yes, that's your retort to our opinion, then you're not worth the argument because you're not seeing the point.
26:17
SPEAKER_01: You're just no, it's not right, it's not right.
26:18
SPEAKER_01: No, I think there is no non-Man City fan, anyways, that would say, ah no, give them a chance now, and they should appeal it.
26:24
SPEAKER_00: And like, and and they like you were looking at some of the ex-Man City players in social media or on that have given got airtime on the press that are justifying what happened.
26:36
SPEAKER_00: And I think that like Richard Dunn was on a few weeks ago, like it he was like, but some of these players that come in are great players and doesn't take away from the fact that the football that we played, and I'm not sure who it was that called him out and says, But these players wouldn't be there if it wasn't for what's after happening.
26:51
SPEAKER_01: Like it's embarrassing to hear things like that, and you're going, just say nothing.
26:55
SPEAKER_01: Don't just say nothing, because you're not that stupid.
26:58
SPEAKER_01: We all know there is no way these players that have come there, the money to pay for them and the fees.
27:02
SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, so look, I look, we could go on for an hour, and I'm just going, I just hope it gets fixed soon because it's it's becoming really annoying and it's destroying the whole league.
27:11
SPEAKER_00: If it gets done, at least it can be part and moved on.
27:13
SPEAKER_01: Part to move on, give them whatever points deduction, give them transfer brands, take off all the titles.
27:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but you set a precedent for the next generation of football teams and managers and owners.
27:21
SPEAKER_01: You go, you can't do that.
27:22
SPEAKER_01: No, that's it.
27:23
SPEAKER_01: So off we go.
27:24
SPEAKER_01: Anyways, we'll quickly run through uh this weekend.
27:27
SPEAKER_01: We just quickly run through the games.
27:29
SPEAKER_01: Everton uh play Chelsea at half twelve on Sunday, that'll be or Saturday morning, half twelve.
27:33
SPEAKER_01: Saturday afternoon, then you're Fulham at home to Hull, City at home to Ipswich.
27:37
SPEAKER_01: That'll be you'd imagine that should be a game they should win, so that'll keep them all happy for another one.
27:40
SPEAKER_01: Uh Brentford at home to Liverpool.
27:42
SPEAKER_01: Again, Liverpool won't fancy that the way they're going.
27:44
SPEAKER_01: Uh Newcastle Villa, two teams again, can't seem to get a bit of run going.
27:48
SPEAKER_01: Brighton and Palace, Palace after getting a bit of a booster of the weekend, but the way Brighton are playing, they'll be like lapping up.
27:53
SPEAKER_01: That's sorry, that's on Sunday at two o'clock.
27:55
SPEAKER_01: So sorry, the Newcastle Villa game is half five Saturday.
27:58
SPEAKER_01: The other two o'clock on Sundays, Bournemouth and Sunderland.
28:01
SPEAKER_01: Uh, Leeds and Man United is two o'clock on Sunday.
28:04
SPEAKER_01: I'm assuming that'll be live on the telly.
28:05
SPEAKER_01: Uh, Forest v.
28:06
SPEAKER_01: Arsenal at half four on Sunday, and then Monday night football.
28:10
SPEAKER_01: And again, this this is all the ingredients of a great Monday night football.
28:13
SPEAKER_01: Spurs bursting for a win, Coventry going, well, we're after doing okay in a couple of games.
28:17
SPEAKER_01: Uh, and like the way Spurs have been playing, it's like anyone could go there and pull a result out of it.
28:22
SPEAKER_01: Like, so no, that should be good fun, it should be good fun.
28:25
SPEAKER_01: Look at it.
28:25
SPEAKER_01: Uh, we'll be back uh every week or every couple of weeks with our Premier League updates.
28:29
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28:30
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28:34
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28:35
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28:39
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28:41
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