Latest / Mic Drop Comedy / Andrew Garfield Leads a Peasants_ Revolt in _The Uprising_ _ The Daily Show
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Please welcome Andrew.
- 0:02Speaker 2: Garfio!
- 0:22Speaker 1: Thank you for coming.
- 0:23Speaker 2: Unbelievable.
- 0:23Speaker 3: Unbelievable.
- 0:24Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, hey.
- 0:25Speaker 3: This is nice to be here with everybody. How we doing?
- 0:28Speaker 1: Hell yeah. I mean, I hate to tell them that
- 0:38Speaker 1: that is the whole movie. 23-second movie. You almost didn't
- 0:44Speaker 1: even get here. You had a plane situation. What happened?
- 0:48Speaker 3: We were downed in... That sounds much.
- 0:51Speaker 1: More dramatic than it was.
- 0:53Speaker 3: You're okay.
- 0:54Speaker 4: There was no, like, shots fired or anything like that.
- 0:57Speaker 4: There was, like, a smell of smoke on the aircraft,
- 1:00Speaker 4: and we were brought down in Albuquerque, New Mexico, which
- 1:04Speaker 4: I would highly recommend to have.
- 1:06Speaker 1: So you spent some time there.
- 1:08Speaker 4: A whole day in Albuquerque airport.
- 1:12Speaker 3: Not the whole day. It was.
- 1:14Speaker 4: We realized, you know, with these things, you get told
- 1:18Speaker 4: one thing and then they apologize and say it's actually
- 1:21Speaker 4: going to be 18 hours later than what was going
- 1:23Speaker 4: to happen.
- 1:24Speaker 1: It's kind of like the king in this movie.
- 1:26Speaker 3: Thank you for bringing it back to... I don't know
- 1:29Speaker 3: what we're talking about here.
- 1:30Speaker 1: So you're an album crook.
- 1:32Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was, um, you know, have you ever had, like,
- 1:34Speaker 4: a huge delay where you feel so bonded to the
- 1:37Speaker 4: people that you're, like, you're all Tom Hanks in the
- 1:40Speaker 4: terminal kind of thing? And you're all just, like, getting
- 1:43Speaker 4: to know each other in a deeper way than you even.
- 1:45Speaker 3: Know your own family?
- 1:47Speaker 4: There was something really sweet and kind of bonding, like, instant...
- 1:50Speaker 4: strange community of suffering in Albuquerque Airport.
- 1:55Speaker 3: But to the point where we.
- 1:56Speaker 4: I was travelling with someone I work with, and.
- 2:01Speaker 3: We had enough time to go bowling.
- 2:03Speaker 4: We had enough time to leave through security and do
- 2:08Speaker 4: four games of four rounds of bowling, where we were betting,
- 2:12Speaker 4: because she actually started beating me, and I was like,
- 2:14Speaker 4: you know... She's my assistant, Isabel. Really, really sweet, wonderful person.
- 2:18Speaker 4: And I was like, if you beat me, I will
- 2:21Speaker 4: pay out. But if I beat you, and she owes
- 2:24Speaker 4: me like $ 120. I was going to.
- 2:25Speaker 1: Say, I mean, I would think an assistant should be losing.
- 2:29Speaker 3: Just like on purpose losing.
- 2:32Speaker 1: I don't go bowling with my assistant, but I don't
- 2:34Speaker 1: have an assistant. How's your bowling game? Solid?
- 2:41Speaker 4: You know, I range between a 90 and a 120.
- 2:44Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's.
- 2:46Speaker 3: It's like very, very in the middle.
- 2:50Speaker 1: My high is a 111, which is kind of embarrassing, but... Anyways.
- 2:55Speaker 1: Let's talk about this film, which I don't even think
- 2:58Speaker 1: bowling had been invented yet. When this film took place
- 3:02Speaker 1: in the late 1300s.
- 3:02Speaker 4: Yeah, these guys didn't have much time, leisure time. They
- 3:08Speaker 4: were being taxed. Yeah, so it's set during the Peasants' Uprising,
- 3:11Speaker 4: which was a true historical event. In 1381, in the UK,
- 3:17Speaker 4: it was the first major kind of popular uprising. And
- 3:21Speaker 4: it was a time where there was a small group
- 3:24Speaker 4: of oligarchs who were hoarding all of the wealth and
- 3:28Speaker 4: all of the resources.
- 3:29Speaker 3: 1381, 1381 in a country, don't worry, this could never
- 3:32Speaker 3: happen here.
- 3:39Speaker 4: And a kind of general population whose souls were being
- 3:44Speaker 4: squeezed to the point where they felt like they were
- 3:47Speaker 4: being treated like animals, like vermin, like completely worthless, like
- 3:52Speaker 4: stripped of dignity to the point where, as you saw
- 3:55Speaker 4: in that clip, the person I play is representative of
- 4:00Speaker 4: thousands upon thousands of people who It's post the plague,
- 4:04Speaker 4: so 50% of.
- 4:06Speaker 3: Europe have been wiped out by an epidemic. Again, 31.
- 4:11Speaker 2: Nothing could ever possibly happen close.
- 4:16Speaker 3: We're safe, guys. Everything's fine.
- 4:19Speaker 1: The peasants can't afford the newest iPhone? How familiar were
- 4:24Speaker 1: you with the story ahead of time?
- 4:27Speaker 3: We learned about it in school in England.
- 4:29Speaker 4: We kind of learned about it through the perspective of
- 4:31Speaker 4: the people who kind of write history, which are not
- 4:35Speaker 4: the common folk, which are kind of the oligarchs who say,
- 4:39Speaker 4: weren't we great in how we raped and pillaged everyone?
- 4:43Speaker 4: So it was a really incredible story to be told
- 4:48Speaker 4: through ordinary people who who kind of band together to.
- 4:53Speaker 3: Kind of fight for very, very basic human rights.
- 4:56Speaker 4: And it's a really powerful, it does feel like a very,
- 4:59Speaker 4: very powerful film for now.
- 5:00Speaker 1: It's excellent. It's very powerful. I couldn't take my eyes
- 5:03Speaker 1: off the screen. It definitely resonates. today, you know, which
- 5:09Speaker 1: is interesting.
- 5:11Speaker 4: Scary, really kind of frightening that it resonates so deep.
- 5:14Speaker 4: When I read it, I felt like, I think it's
- 5:16Speaker 4: very hard right now. I'm sure you feel the same.
- 5:19Speaker 4: How do we keep up with the uncertainty and the
- 5:21Speaker 4: forever changing nature of our world? And how do we
- 5:26Speaker 4: as creative people, artists, kind of speak to the current
- 5:30Speaker 4: issues that we're facing? And when I read this, it
- 5:32Speaker 4: felt like a bit of a cry of the soul.
- 5:34Speaker 4: It felt like, oh, this feels like the closest thing
- 5:37Speaker 4: I've read to feeling like it's a very long, long
- 5:40Speaker 4: distance mirror of where we are now and how out
- 5:44Speaker 4: of joint the world is.
- 5:45Speaker 3: And how difficult it is to say how out of
- 5:48Speaker 3: joint it is. And then what do we do about it?
- 5:51Speaker 3: I wake up every morning and I'm like, has.
- 5:52Speaker 4: Anyone been held accountable for corruption or Abuse of power, no,
- 5:59Speaker 4: day 1,569 of.
- 5:59Speaker 3: That not happening. I guess that's just normal now.
- 6:03Speaker 4: The little bit of corruption that accrues over time, or
- 6:05Speaker 4: a lot of corruption, is just kind of weirdly accepted.
- 6:09Speaker 3: I feel like I'm going mad. I feel like we're
- 6:11Speaker 3: all going mad.
- 6:13Speaker 1: It's true.
- 6:13Speaker 2: It's true.
- 6:20Speaker 1: I never know if I should feel comforted that history
- 6:23Speaker 1: has done this before, or if I should just be
- 6:26Speaker 1: more angry that we keep doing it. Should we do both?
- 6:29Speaker 4: Should we do both of those things? I feel like
- 6:33Speaker 4: anger right now is kind of one of the only...
- 6:36Speaker 4: Heartbreak and anger is the only logical.
- 6:38Speaker 3: Response that we can have.
- 6:40Speaker 4: And I do feel reassured and hopeful because.
- 6:44Speaker 4: It's a cycle, like the idea that the world, I
- 6:46Speaker 4: don't think that, you know, AI robots are gonna kill us,
- 6:50Speaker 4: maybe some of us, but like, Not all of us,
- 6:53Speaker 4: you know, if we can get on.
- 6:55Speaker 3: The submarine with Zuckerberg, we'll be fine.
- 6:57Speaker 4: But like, no, but I do feel like there's this
- 7:00Speaker 4: kind of, yeah, throughout history, it's a cycle. And we
- 7:03Speaker 4: do seem like we're the part of the, we're living
- 7:06Speaker 4: through an interesting part of the cycle where the world
- 7:08Speaker 4: has no center. Everything is falling apart. So it does
- 7:11Speaker 4: require individuals, namely us, to find our own centers in
- 7:17Speaker 4: the middle of a centerless world and bring that center back.
- 7:21Speaker 4: to the center of the culture and start planting seeds
- 7:23Speaker 4: for the new world that will be built when this
- 7:27Speaker 4: shitshow is over.
- 7:33Speaker 1: And historically, that is how each one of these things changes.
- 7:38Speaker 1: People become aware, they understand the past, and then they
- 7:40Speaker 1: plant these new seeds. This character, the plowman, is very empathetic.
- 7:44Speaker 1: I mean, he's trying to do the right thing. He's
- 7:48Speaker 1: dealing with grief and sadness. But you also just finished
- 7:51Speaker 1: playing Sam Altman in a new film called.
- 7:57Speaker 2: Well, well, well.
- 8:04Speaker 3: I liked him in.
- 8:05Speaker 1: The beginning of this interview. Most of your characters have
- 8:10Speaker 1: this empathetic character that I love and respond to. It
- 8:13Speaker 1: makes me think you must be a good person deep down.
- 8:16Speaker 1: I don't really know you. But what was it like
- 8:18Speaker 1: playing Sam Allman? He doesn't feel like that type of character.
- 8:20Speaker 3: Hey, man.
- 8:22Speaker 1: Hey, man.
- 8:25Speaker 3: Listen, man, we're all in need of some soul work.
- 8:28Speaker 3: We're all in need of community. We're all in need
- 8:31Speaker 3: of healing. We're all wounded.
- 8:34Speaker 4: And we're all like all of us in unconscious ways,
- 8:39Speaker 4: probably enacting that woundedness on other people that we are
- 8:42Speaker 4: not aware of.
- 8:43Speaker 3: And I don't think any of us are any exceptions.
- 8:45Speaker 3: And that's why I think.
- 8:47Speaker 4: I love being an actor is because it.
- 8:49Speaker 3: Is an empathy machine.
- 8:51Speaker 4: You get to try and close the gap between you
- 8:54Speaker 4: and anyone in the human race.
- 8:56Speaker 3: And I find that very, very interesting.
- 8:58Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, if we're looking at the Plowman
- 9:02Speaker 4: and we're looking at Sam Altman, we're looking at kind
- 9:04Speaker 4: of one of the most powerful people in our current culture,
- 9:08Speaker 4: maybe top 10, like winning at the game of capitalism
- 9:14Speaker 4: versus someone who's arguably losing at.
- 9:17Speaker 3: That particular game.
- 9:18Speaker 4: But then if you see our movie, you might be
- 9:22Speaker 4: surprised about who is most free. There's something about where
- 9:26Speaker 4: the plowman gets to that he sheds any kind of
- 9:32Speaker 4: imprisonment to a world that is not for him, is
- 9:38Speaker 4: not for his soul, is not for any decency in
- 9:42Speaker 4: his life. And I would argue that our culture is
- 9:45Speaker 4: kind of not serving anybody right now, but particularly the
- 9:49Speaker 4: people on top. I feel like there's a terror. Why
- 9:55Speaker 4: do we need to hoard so much? There's a fear
- 9:57Speaker 4: in that.
- 9:58Speaker 1: You're right. And it seems like why are they so miserable?
- 10:02Speaker 1: They've won. They've got it all. It's like, they should
- 10:06Speaker 1: be happy. There's a great scene in Uprising when your
- 10:09Speaker 1: character comes into the castle or the kingdom and just
- 10:14Speaker 1: picks up the pen. The feathered pen, and it's almost
- 10:18Speaker 1: like he's astonished at the wealth that is just in
- 10:20Speaker 1: the rooms. And it was very powerful. And your characters,
- 10:26Speaker 1: it feels like you take them with you as a person.
- 10:30Speaker 1: That can be exhausting, no? I mean, I also think
- 10:32Speaker 1: of The Social Network when you played another tech movie.
- 10:42Speaker 1: What have you learned from tech by being in these films,
- 10:46Speaker 1: if anything. I realize films aren't real life.
- 10:52Speaker 3: Yeah, yes and no, I suppose.
- 10:53Speaker 4: I don't, I mean, I'm just very healthily afraid. I
- 11:00Speaker 4: did the social network and I immediately got off of
- 11:02Speaker 4: Facebook when I started shooting that.
- 11:04Speaker 3: Oh, interesting. And I did the....
- 11:08Speaker 4: This film Artificial about open AI and I immediately deleted
- 11:12Speaker 4: my chat GPT and I don't really know why. I
- 11:19Speaker 4: think it feels like a kind of, it's a race
- 11:24Speaker 4: to the bottom and I think that there could be alignment.
- 11:28Speaker 4: There could be, if there was actual kind of communication
- 11:32Speaker 4: and a kind of integrative kind of process that had
- 11:38Speaker 4: integrity that the people who are running these companies valued
- 11:42Speaker 4: human life more than the bottom line of their company's
- 11:48Speaker 4: kind of shareholders' stock value, then we would have a chance.
- 11:52Speaker 4: But it does seem like we're in the part of
- 11:54Speaker 4: history when the leaders care about the bottom line more
- 11:57Speaker 4: than they do about any human life, maybe outside of
- 12:02Speaker 4: their own immediate circle.
- 12:03Speaker 1: Okay, fine, but did you see Apple's new folding phone?
- 12:05Speaker 3: It looks sick.
- 12:07Speaker 1: It looks sick. We can consume content on a left
- 12:10Speaker 1: screen and on a right screen. Let's talk about outside
- 12:15Speaker 1: of acting. You're working so much. Work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work.
- 12:20Speaker 1: But how do you cleanse the soul? How do you
- 12:22Speaker 1: feed your soul? What is it that you do?
- 12:24Speaker 3: Yeah, what do we do?
- 12:25Speaker 1: What do we do? What do we do?
- 12:28Speaker 3: No, but for real. Yeah. I'm just, you know.
- 12:33Speaker 1: What are you reading these days?
- 12:35Speaker 3: I'm going bowling with my sister.
- 12:36Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome.
- 12:36Speaker 3: That's great. No, no, yeah, I mean, the usual things.
- 12:42Speaker 4: I try to read, I try to go and see movies,
- 12:44Speaker 4: go to see plays, see comedy, see music, listen to music,
- 12:47Speaker 4: go out. I think live performance is now the kind
- 12:50Speaker 4: of the last, I don't know, the most kind of
- 12:54Speaker 4: important commodity we have, like live visceral experience.
- 12:57Speaker 3: So I feel like that's really, yeah, I know. For
- 13:00Speaker 3: me too, I feel so happy about that.
- 13:04Speaker 4: So I try and have as much life in my
- 13:06Speaker 4: life as possible, as much vitality in my life as possible.
- 13:09Speaker 4: And yeah, and honestly, friends, community, family, that is so simple,
- 13:13Speaker 4: but like nature, the kind of eternal thing, I feel like,
- 13:16Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 13:16Speaker 1: No, this is good. You got to tell us this
- 13:18Speaker 1: stuff because it seems like it's, uh, everyone knows it,
- 13:21Speaker 1: but not everyone knows, especially young men. You know, I'm
- 13:24Speaker 1: a little bit afraid right now. I want young men
- 13:26Speaker 1: to see other young men such as yourself and ourself.
- 13:29Speaker 1: We're not that different in age. How to stay healthy,
- 13:34Speaker 1: how to stay positive and optimistic.
- 13:35Speaker 4: I mean, I think there are dependable things that are eternal.
- 13:41Speaker 3: There is the woods. There is the ocean. There is
- 13:45Speaker 3: a walk with a buddy.
- 13:46Speaker 1: There is....
- 13:49Speaker 3: There is art.
- 13:49Speaker 4: There's always going to be tremendously talented and heart-filled people
- 13:54Speaker 4: making beautiful.
- 13:56Speaker 3: I don't lose hope in humanity because you.
- 14:00Speaker 4: Can go to any art gallery in any city in
- 14:02Speaker 4: the world and you can go, oh, humans.
- 14:04Speaker 3: Are f * * * ing amazing.
- 14:05Speaker 1: It's true.
- 14:05Speaker 4: And you can see so much beautiful creativity and proper community.
- 14:10Speaker 4: I think that is something that is making a pretty
- 14:13Speaker 4: great comeback is that we're all longing to be able
- 14:16Speaker 4: to kind of cry together.
- 14:19Speaker 1: Like I feel like, cause it's, it's.
- 14:21Speaker 4: In this, in the moments we're in the moment we're in,
- 14:23Speaker 4: it's like the, the, the, the heart breaks and breaks
- 14:27Speaker 4: and it lives by breaking.
- 14:28Speaker 3: I don't know. Someone said that it wasn't me. It's
- 14:30Speaker 3: quite a nice quote.
- 14:31Speaker 1: It was me. I said it was you.
- 14:32Speaker 3: Um, but, but.
- 14:33Speaker 4: There's something I think particularly for young men and I'm not,
- 14:37Speaker 4: I mean, but, but I think there's something I know
- 14:40Speaker 4: for me, if I, if I can bring my wounds
- 14:46Speaker 4: and my pain in a, in a kind of self-owned
- 14:49Speaker 4: way to a group of people that I know love
- 14:51Speaker 4: me for who I am, not for what I can
- 14:53Speaker 4: do for them or any kind of status or any
- 14:56Speaker 4: kind of power or anything like that, then I feel
- 14:59Speaker 4: connected to life, connected to the world in a way
- 15:02Speaker 4: that feels eternal and it doesn't feel like it can
- 15:05Speaker 4: be taken like that. That feels like a spiritual practice
- 15:09Speaker 4: to me.
- 15:09Speaker 1: I love that. Sometimes I have to be reminded that
- 15:19Speaker 1: as a man, we have to reach out. Yeah. And
- 15:23Speaker 1: it doesn't always go perfect all the time.
- 15:25Speaker 2: No.
- 15:25Speaker 1: You got to keep doing it.
- 15:27Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 15:27Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll reach out and I'll be like, that's awful.
- 15:29Speaker 1: I'm not reaching out ever again to anybody.
- 15:31Speaker 2: Right, right.
- 15:32Speaker 1: And now I'm in the basement podcasting. Right.
- 15:34Speaker 2: Yeah. Problematic.
- 15:35Speaker 3: That's literally the only thing you do. That's the only response.
- 15:40Speaker 1: Are you a tennis fan? You're British.
- 15:42Speaker 3: I love tennis, yeah.
- 15:43Speaker 1: I do like tennis. Are you going to the U.S. Open?
- 15:44Speaker 3: I'm going to the U.S.
- 15:45Speaker 1: Open, I hope, yeah.
- 15:47Speaker 4: Okay.
- 15:47Speaker 1: I love Wimbledon.
- 15:48Speaker 3: Yeah, I love tennis.
- 15:49Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 15:49Speaker 3: Tennis is great. You know what was cool with the
- 15:51Speaker 3: Alcaraz thing the other day?
- 15:52Speaker 2: Okay.
- 15:52Speaker 3: Like, I love Alcaraz. I think he is my favorite
- 15:55Speaker 3: young tennis player right now.
- 15:56Speaker 1: Spanish player Carlos Alcaraz lost to an American in a
- 15:59Speaker 1: five-hour match.
- 16:00Speaker 2: But he lost.
- 16:01Speaker 3: So elegantly. It was so cool.
- 16:04Speaker 4: It was like he was vomiting into his towel. And
- 16:07Speaker 4: at the end, he was smart because he just had
- 16:09Speaker 4: this huge, terrible injury. And he was just so grateful
- 16:13Speaker 4: that he managed to compete at the level that he did.
- 16:16Speaker 3: Win or lose. There's something so.
- 16:18Speaker 1: Beautiful about that. What a lesson.
- 16:19Speaker 3: It's gorgeous.
- 16:20Speaker 1: To him, the definition of success was I get to
- 16:23Speaker 1: be out here trying my hardest.
- 16:24Speaker 4: And it reminds me of Simone Biles when she was like,
- 16:27Speaker 4: you know what? I'm going to take care of myself
- 16:30Speaker 4: as an ordinary person and step away from my extraordinary
- 16:33Speaker 4: abilities for a minute and make sure that I can
- 16:35Speaker 4: keep doing my extraordinary shit. But I need to make
- 16:38Speaker 4: sure that my ordinariness is intact. When she stepped away
- 16:41Speaker 4: from gymnastics, I found that very, very inspiring as well.
- 16:45Speaker 1: It was very inspiring. Well, thank you so much for
- 16:46Speaker 1: coming here. The Uprising is an amazing film. Our rep
- 16:50Speaker 1: rises in theaters everywhere now.
- 16:52Speaker 3: Andrew Garfield!