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The 'Mystery' Brunette · Outspoken the Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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Speaker 1: Amy Torber and coming up on today's show, Sarah's Day
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Speaker 1: gives birth to baby number three. Ash Pollard rages about
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Speaker 1: being fired by her house cleaners and Liam Payne's Argentinian
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Speaker 1: hotel is raided by police following his death. But first,
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Speaker 1: Matt Sikowsky has been forced to deny flirting with a
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Speaker 1: mystery brunette during a paid trip to Sydney. Now, this
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Speaker 1: all took place while his fiancee, Tammy Hembrough, was at
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Speaker 1: a much publicized retreat in Greece. These fresh claims come
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Speaker 1: off the back of an explosive podcast expose into Matt's
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Speaker 1: previous relationship with his ex-girlfriend, Jen. Now, Sophie, I want
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Speaker 1: to get into these fresh allegations because a series of
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Speaker 1: photos of Matt talking to a brunette woman in a
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Speaker 1: pub surfaced on Reddit of all places. And this story
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Speaker 1: was quickly picked up by the Daily Mail, who ran
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Speaker 1: with the headline, Matt Sikowsky spotted chatting up a mystery
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Speaker 1: brunette in Sydney after boozy private jet flight while Tammy
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Speaker 1: Hembrough is away in Greece. Now, these photos, when published
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Speaker 1: by the Daily Mail, didn't look great. But in his defense,
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Speaker 1: when you dig a little bit deeper into the story,
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Speaker 1: it's not what it appears to be because he was
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Speaker 1: in Sydney for a brand trip with a private jet
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Speaker 1: company and he didn't disclose the partnership, which has led
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Speaker 1: to a bit of confusion because people were thinking that
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Speaker 1: he and his friends hired this private jet when, in
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Speaker 1: actual fact, the company paid for him and a bunch
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Speaker 1: of influencers to be taken on this private jet, and
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Speaker 1: they actually ended up thanking him for joining them on
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Speaker 1: the trip. Yeah, so this brand flew 12 creators to
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Speaker 1: Sydney for an exclusive Thursday night escape, and the group
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Speaker 1: partied at a cocktail bar on Harrington Street. Now, the
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Speaker 1: Daily Mail initially tried to push the rhetoric that Matt
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Speaker 1: was chatting up a random woman at the bar, but
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Speaker 1: it turns out the woman pictured was model Amy Jakovic,
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Speaker 1: who was part of this paid trip. And photos also
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Speaker 1: emerged of Matt talking to another mystery woman, this time
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Speaker 1: a blonde woman. And that person turned out to be
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Speaker 1: influencer Lexi Mary, who has over 10,000 followers on Instagram.
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Speaker 1: She was also part of the trip. So Matt's crime
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Speaker 1: is that he was seen chatting to other creators who
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Speaker 1: were also on this paid trip. Now, following all of
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Speaker 1: the media reports, an Instagram page called Reese and London
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Speaker 1: ain't shit. So clearly a big Tammy Hemrow fan. She
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Speaker 1: reshared the photos and leveled cheating allegations at Matt. I
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Speaker 1: love that you assume the account owner is a she.
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Speaker 1: You never know. I would bet probably a lot of
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Speaker 1: my money that this is a woman who is running
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Speaker 1: this account. Now, they also claimed that Matt wasn't wearing
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Speaker 1: his wedding ring. But they're not married. Yeah, men, I mean,
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Speaker 1: we actually... Our friend, one of our friends, she got
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Speaker 1: engaged really young and her partner did wear an engagement ring,
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Speaker 1: but it's not common practice for men to wear engagement
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Speaker 1: rings and they're not yet married. So of course he's
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Speaker 1: not wearing a wedding band. They should have to wear
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Speaker 1: engagement rings because I mean, it's kind of nice. Like
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Speaker 1: you want to show that you're in a committed relationship
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Speaker 1: with your partner. Now the Instagram account in question shared
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Speaker 1: a photo dump of the images of Matt talking to
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Speaker 1: a number of different women and also bizarre video footage.
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Speaker 1: and wrote, Tammy goes on an all-girls trip, so Matt
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Speaker 1: decides to go on a private plane to another destination
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Speaker 1: and drink alcohol with some guys and a bunch of
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Speaker 1: random girls that he doesn't know. One girl set up
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Speaker 1: her camera to film the night, and luckily Matt wasn't
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Speaker 1: aware of the camera, so he was caught flirting with
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Speaker 1: two girls and even got his phone out to show
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Speaker 1: the blonde something. Matt and the blonde girl were way
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Speaker 1: too comfortable with each other, considering he's taken and they
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Speaker 1: just met. Matt kept talking to the light brunette and
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Speaker 1: the blonde, but at different times. It's insane that Matt
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Speaker 1: was caught messaging a girl behind Tammy's back and tried
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Speaker 1: to blame the alcohol, but here he is drinking alcohol
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Speaker 1: and talking to multiple women he doesn't know. Matt tried
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Speaker 1: to make it look like he was just hanging out
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Speaker 1: with the guys in his stories and Instagram posts after
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Speaker 1: the trip. He even played games with the girls and
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Speaker 1: didn't want to post about it. I wonder why, crying face.
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Speaker 1: What was bizarre about the post was the vision that
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Speaker 1: was included almost looked like a surveillance camera. I think, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it looked like it had been taken from the restaurant
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Speaker 1: or bars, CCTV. Maybe it was. Maybe someone sold it
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Speaker 1: off and thought, fuck, I'll sell this to the Daily
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Speaker 1: Mail and make a lot of money from it. It
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Speaker 1: was hardly damning. It's like he was talking to the
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Speaker 1: girls who were part of the trip. Yeah, but everyone
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Speaker 1: knows that you can create a story around videos and
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Speaker 1: photos that you get. Yeah, I mean, it didn't look great,
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Speaker 1: especially off the back of this podcast expose from So
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Speaker 1: Dramatic that we are going to get into a bit later.
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Speaker 1: But Matt actually responded to this Instagram page which is
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Speaker 1: quite rare because there's been bigger allegations made against Matt,
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Speaker 1: which he has not responded to publicly. So he wrote,
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Speaker 1: I don't normally comment on this stuff, but I thought
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Speaker 1: I'd jump in here. They are my mates and we
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Speaker 1: have the same management, so we have met at many
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Speaker 1: events before. They are engaged as well and we were
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Speaker 1: talking about wedding prep and comparing our engagements in the Maldives. Maldives, Amy?
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Speaker 1: I always say Maldives. Oh, sorry. I've been watching. I've
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Speaker 1: been listening to too much Saffron Bark. Anyway, continue. I
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Speaker 1: was invited to this event weeks ago and would have
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Speaker 1: gone whether my fiance was in Australia or not. You
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Speaker 1: guys need to get a life. Seriously, it's so strange
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Speaker 1: how obsessed you are with people you have never met
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Speaker 1: and know only from social media. Also, you know the
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Speaker 1: man gets a wedding band after the marriage. Some of
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Speaker 1: us don't wear engagement rings. I kind of like that
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Speaker 1: Matt rebutted these claims and explained the situation because as
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Speaker 1: much as I feel like he is a bit of
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Speaker 1: a shady character... he has been copying a lot of shit,
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Speaker 1: like a barrage of shit to the point where it
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Speaker 1: would feel like everyone is against you and your relationship.
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Speaker 1: And you probably feel like everyone wants this to fail
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Speaker 1: right before the wedding, because obviously this is Tammy's third engagement.
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Speaker 1: Everyone has this theory that she's not going to walk
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Speaker 1: down the aisle. I don't want it ruined. I would
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Speaker 1: like to see her walk down the aisle selfishly. I
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Speaker 1: think the only issue with Matt responding is now he's
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Speaker 1: set this precedent. So In terms of this story, I
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Speaker 1: think anyone can kind of read between the lines and
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Speaker 1: see that it was a bit of bullshit. And that's
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Speaker 1: why he's come out in defense of it. But he
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Speaker 1: hasn't come out in defense of these recent claims made
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Speaker 1: by So Dramatic. So let's get into those. Now, Megan Passetto,
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Speaker 1: she clearly did her research because she found out some
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Speaker 1: very juicy details from Matt's ex-girlfriend, Jen's friends, aka probably
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Speaker 1: just Jen herself in her friends' accounts.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so.
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Speaker 1: These details didn't pay Matt very well and it would
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Speaker 1: have been a hard listen for Tammy. Now, it really
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Speaker 1: didn't miss a beat, this podcast episode. It dives straight
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Speaker 1: into when Matt and Jen broke up and Matt claimed
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Speaker 1: on his podcast that the reason behind the split was
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Speaker 1: due to his infertility. However, Jen's friends claim that they
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Speaker 1: broke up because Matt went behind Jen's back and auditioned
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Speaker 1: for Love Island UK. This actually makes sense as a
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Speaker 1: massive fan of Love Island UK. There was a series,
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Speaker 1: I think it was last year or the year before,
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Speaker 1: where they had two Australian contestants. It was Jessie. I
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Speaker 1: can't remember the guy's name. So obviously they were auditioning
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Speaker 1: for Australian Love Island contestants. With such a huge opportunity
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Speaker 1: as well to appear on Love Island UK. I mean,
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Speaker 1: we know the exposure that that show gets. It's shown
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Speaker 1: in the U.S., It would be a huge career move
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Speaker 1: for Matt to appear on there. I mean, Jessie has
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Speaker 1: blown up. Like, I love her content with Farmer Will.
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Speaker 1: But the only issue is if you've got a girlfriend. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't quite work. It's going to come out and
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Speaker 1: you're going to look like a total dick. Now, the
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Speaker 1: allegations got worse because they also included Matt's co-host, Anna McAvoy.
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Speaker 1: So she's been dragged into the drama. It's claimed that
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Speaker 1: she encouraged Matt to audition for the show behind Jen's
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Speaker 1: back Because she allegedly thought it would help benefit their podcast.
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Speaker 1: She's not wrong. It would have greatly benefited their podcast. Look,
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Speaker 1: maybe she knew that Jen and Matt were on the
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Speaker 1: rocks and thought, oh, fuck it, just dump her so
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Speaker 1: we can get this opportunity. I feel like Anna is
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Speaker 1: a bit of a Bambi character. Like, I feel a
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Speaker 1: bit sorry for her. But still, if you're Jen, you
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Speaker 1: would be, like, you would feel so betrayed because I
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Speaker 1: feel like you do develop a special friendship with your
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Speaker 1: partner's girlfriends. Like, yeah, it just doesn't seem right. But
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Speaker 1: perhaps Anna was being sold a different story. Maybe Matt
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Speaker 1: was saying, well, actually, Jen's really keen on it. She
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Speaker 1: doesn't care that I'm going to go in there. She
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Speaker 1: knows it's for my career. Now, the other major bombshell
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Speaker 1: from this episode is was that Matt was allegedly still
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Speaker 1: with Jen whilst he started dating Tammy Hembrough. So Jen's
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Speaker 1: friend alleged that the former couple had agreed on being
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Speaker 1: exclusive and were even starting a dash hound business together.
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Speaker 1: Now this ties into your theory from the other week.
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Speaker 1: Thank you. So if we remember back to that grand
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Speaker 1: unfollowing that happened right before their joint Hux party, Matt
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Speaker 1: was posting at this random marketplace and he put up
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Speaker 1: a photo of a dash hound stall. Like it was
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Speaker 1: a specialty store. dash hand stall. And I thought it
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Speaker 1: was very strange because he had previously posted a lot
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Speaker 1: of content with Jen, his ex-girlfriend's dog, and about how
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Speaker 1: this dog was his whole life. And it's even weirder
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Speaker 1: now that Megan has revealed that he was actually starting
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Speaker 1: up a dash hound business with Jen. Well, the allegations
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Speaker 1: get even worse because The date of Tammy and Matt's
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Speaker 1: anniversary is the same date as Jen's birthday. Wow. And
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Speaker 1: why this matters is because this year, Matt and Jen
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Speaker 1: allegedly celebrated her birthday together with a staycation at a hotel.
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Speaker 1: Side note, it's claimed that Jen paid for the hotel
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Speaker 1: room as well. So there were a few subtle jibes
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Speaker 1: that basically Matt is a stinge bag. And Jen was
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Speaker 1: apparently livid when the first photos broke of Tammy and
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Speaker 1: Matt together at a hotel. And if you remember, people
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Speaker 1: weren't sure who she was with because the photos were
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Speaker 1: really blurry. And at the time, Matt allegedly told his
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Speaker 1: friends that he was still in love with Jen, but
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Speaker 1: dating Tammy would be good for his career. Something that
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Speaker 1: was touched on during this podcast is that fame seems
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Speaker 1: to be a big motivator for Matt because he has
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Speaker 1: been accused of only dating his former partner, Kira McGuire,
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Speaker 1: who was on The Bachelor. for the same reason. And
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Speaker 1: also obviously the fact that he wanted to go on
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Speaker 1: Love Island to further his career. Well, Megan also pointed
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Speaker 1: out that Matt has been quite vocal about what his
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Speaker 1: type is, which is a brunette woman with big boobs. Well,
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Speaker 1: this was backed up by a ton of upsets from
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Speaker 1: his podcast where he talked about loving brunette women, obviously
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Speaker 1: with big boobs. All it made me think about was
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Speaker 1: the fact that Tammy Hembrough recently got even larger breast
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Speaker 1: implants put in.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if you thought things couldn't get any worse,
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Speaker 1: Matt was also accused of being a serial cheat. So
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Speaker 1: Jen's friends claimed he cheated on Jen multiple times and
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Speaker 1: that when he was caught out, he apparently used the
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Speaker 1: same excuse he did on Tammy back in March, that
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Speaker 1: he was trying to wingman his friends. Now, the reason
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Speaker 1: why Jen's friends have spoken out and not Jen herself
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Speaker 1: is allegedly because Matt has threatened to sue Jen for
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Speaker 1: defamation if she does so. I mean, these are pretty
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Speaker 1: big claims. And someone like Megan, she always has receipts.
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Speaker 1: So I think she can confidently back up these claims
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Speaker 1: that she's made. I also enjoyed the fact that Megan
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Speaker 1: debunked Matt's claims that he didn't know who Tammy Hembrough
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Speaker 1: was before he slid into her DMs and asked her
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Speaker 1: to attend his podcast live show. So she dug up
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Speaker 1: an old podcast interview with where Matt and Anna interviewed
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Speaker 1: a guy called Chase. I think he was a boxer.
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Speaker 1: And during that interview, Chase spoke about his plans to
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Speaker 1: slide into Tammy's DMs and spoke about how beneficial it
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Speaker 1: would be to date her. Maybe this is where Matt
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Speaker 1: got a few ideas. It's just very, very awkward. I
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Speaker 1: was loving this podcast interview because... It was one I
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Speaker 1: listened to and my mouth was ajar the whole time.
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Speaker 1: I rung my mum and I'm like, mum, you need
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Speaker 1: to listen to this because she loves all the juicy
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Speaker 1: influencer drama. Yeah, I mean, it goes into so much detail.
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Speaker 1: So I highly recommend going and listening to the full
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Speaker 1: episode if you are as invested as we are in
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Speaker 1: the Matt and Tammy dramas. And Megan Pistetto did go
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Speaker 1: to Anna McAvoy for comment. Tammy and Matt are yet
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Speaker 1: to respond to the claims, but Anna responded saying she
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Speaker 1: denied she bullied Jen and confirmed that Matt and Jen
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Speaker 1: were broken up when he started dating Tammy. Interestingly, she
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Speaker 1: didn't respond to the allegations that Matt applied for Love
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Speaker 1: Island UK. I've obviously had our gorgeous third baby boy.
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Speaker 1: Sarah's Day has given birth to her third baby boy. Now, Sophie,
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Speaker 1: despite months of Sarah dropping baby name clues, a lot
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Speaker 1: of her followers were surprised by the name. Yeah, well,
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Speaker 1: on Friday, Sarah announced that her third son's name is
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Speaker 1: Harlow Judah Till's. And I was pleasantly surprised because I've
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Speaker 1: always been a fan of this name. I remember first
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Speaker 1: hearing it back in, I think it was 2007 when
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Speaker 1: Nicole Richie and Joel Madden had their baby girl called Harlow.
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Speaker 1: And then everybody started calling their daughters Harlow. Fun fact,
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Speaker 1: our beautiful grey kitten at the time called Lulu, we
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Speaker 1: gave her the middle name Harlow. So I've always had
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Speaker 1: a soft spot for it. I was surprised here though
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Speaker 1: that this is a gender neutral name because I've always
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Speaker 1: thought of it as a girl's name. Yeah, same. I
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Speaker 1: don't think I've ever met a boy that's called Harlow,
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Speaker 1: but I don't see why it can't be a boy's
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Speaker 1: name either. But fun fact, Sarah's Day is a massive
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Speaker 1: Nicole Richie fan. So I wonder if that had any
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Speaker 1: sway over the name. The first thing I thought as
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Speaker 1: well when I saw the name was, hold on, how
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Speaker 1: did this play into those clues? But influencer updates did
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Speaker 1: the heavy lifting for us. So if you remember, the
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Speaker 1: clue for the first name was someone saluting and also
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Speaker 1: a hill. So when you look up the meaning of
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Speaker 1: the name Harlow, it says Harlow is a gender neutral
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Speaker 1: name of English origin, meaning army hill. The badass baby
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Speaker 1: name is sure to instill strength and confidence in its wearers.
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Speaker 1: So army, the saluting sign, hill, obviously, the hill emoji.
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Speaker 1: So I'm surprised more people didn't get it. Well, there's
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Speaker 1: been so much talk as well about this being Sarah's
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Speaker 1: third boy and how she really wanted a girl. So
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Speaker 1: I also thought when I saw the name, has she
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Speaker 1: just gone, fuck it. I wanted Harlow for a girl's name.
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Speaker 1: I'm not getting a girl. So this boy is going
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Speaker 1: to be my Harlow. Potentially, how do you think Fox,
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Speaker 1: Malachi and Harlow will go together? Look, I think Harlow
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Speaker 1: is a good addition. It's not offensive. It's a cute name.
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Speaker 1: It's probably one of the more normal names in that
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Speaker 1: selection of boys' names. Yeah. It's interesting because we put
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Speaker 1: up a post on Friday about the name and quite
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Speaker 1: a few listeners were writing in saying, Oh, my child
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Speaker 1: is called Harlow. So it is unusual for Sarah to
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Speaker 1: have a name that is, I wouldn't call it a
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Speaker 1: common name. Well, Judah isn't either. And that's a trend
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Speaker 1: we're seeing at the moment. If you look at Justin
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Speaker 1: and Hailey Bieber, they had Jack Blues. So they're going
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Speaker 1: for more of a normal name and then the kind
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Speaker 1: of out there middle name. Now, last week, we recorded
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Speaker 1: our episode a little bit early and Kate and I
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Speaker 1: were making some predictions about how Sarah would share her
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Speaker 1: labor news to social media. I have to say that
15:10
Speaker 1: I was correct because Kate thought that Sarah was going
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Speaker 1: to be sharing a lot of live TikToks and updates
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Speaker 1: similar to what Indy Clinton did. I thought that she
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Speaker 1: just put up one sort of Instagram story teasing that
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Speaker 1: she was going into labor and that's what she did.
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Speaker 1: So on Wednesday, she posted some Polaroid photos to her
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Speaker 1: Instagram story. So there were three photos. One of them
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Speaker 1: was Sarah sitting on a pregnancy ball. The other was
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Speaker 1: her at home leaning over the couch whilst her mum
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Speaker 1: was stroking her back, obviously in pain. And the third
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Speaker 1: was a picture of Malachi and Fox. And she wrote,
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Speaker 1: and so it began. Now someone posted this to our
15:47
Speaker 1: Facebook community and there were a lot of questions around
15:50
Speaker 1: the tense that she used because people were saying, so
15:52
Speaker 1: does this mean she's already given birth or is it
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Speaker 1: just the incorrect use of the word began? Should have
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Speaker 1: she said it begins? Sarah has had a bad habit
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Speaker 1: in the past of using the wrong tenses. So people
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Speaker 1: were confused. I took it as in, She's had the
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Speaker 1: baby and she's now teasing us and we'll find out
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Speaker 1: in a few days. Isn't it funny? Because if you
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Speaker 1: think about your friendship group or people you know, anytime
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Speaker 1: someone has a baby, they just go quiet on socials
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Speaker 1: for a few days and then you see the announcement.
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Speaker 1: They never say, just at the hospital, like checking in,
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Speaker 1: like nobody knows they're about to give birth. What threw
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Speaker 1: a lot of people is that Sarah uploaded a video
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Speaker 1: to her YouTube channel where she was packing a hospital
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Speaker 1: bag and she later said that she was actually going
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Speaker 1: into labor when that video was posted. And I think
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Speaker 1: she probably thought, fuck, I've got to get my pregnancy
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Speaker 1: content out there because no one's going to be interested
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Speaker 1: in it after the fact. Well, Sarah's husband, Kurt, managed
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Speaker 1: to ruin some of the mystery surrounding whether Sarah was
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Speaker 1: actually in labor that day because he shared a very
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Speaker 1: rare Instagram story and it was him taking his kids
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Speaker 1: out for a walk. And one of them was in
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Speaker 1: Mitch Orville's tiny trucks branded truck. Well, the week prior,
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Speaker 1: he did a big unboxing of this truck and he
17:08
Speaker 1: showed him making it and how much the kids were
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Speaker 1: enjoying it. And he was saying, oh, my great friend
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Speaker 1: Mitch has given this to us. But he didn't actually
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Speaker 1: put like paid partnership or gifted or anything like that.
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Speaker 1: It was very misleading. Now, Sarah revealed that she actually
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Speaker 1: went into labor on Monday, but she chose to announce
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Speaker 1: her new baby's arrival on the Thursday. So she shared
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Speaker 1: a photo on Instagram of her family holding hands together
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Speaker 1: and wrote, And just like that, the long-awaited three boys
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Speaker 1: were created. And, of course, the Blue Tick Brigade were
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Speaker 1: out in force, leaving their messages of congratulations, including Indy Clinton,
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Speaker 1: M Davies, Elle Swift, Mitch Orville, and Steph Clare Smith.
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Speaker 1: And I didn't know that Steph Clare Smith and Sarah
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Speaker 1: even knew each other. Yeah, and they don't live in
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Speaker 1: the same state. Maybe it's just a thing of everyone
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Speaker 1: in the industry feels like they know each other and
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Speaker 1: should throw their support out there. Or maybe Sarah's going
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Speaker 1: to pop up on Steph's podcast soon. I don't really
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Speaker 1: think that they share the same ideology about health and fitness.
18:04
Speaker 1: I don't know if we'll be seeing her on the
18:06
Speaker 1: kick pod anytime soon. It's quite interesting because Sarah's been
18:09
Speaker 1: providing some updates about how newborn life is going on
18:13
Speaker 1: her Instagram story. And I saw one over the weekend
18:15
Speaker 1: where she explained that for the past four days, she
18:18
Speaker 1: has been cluster feeding overnight, which has meant that she
18:21
Speaker 1: has been feeding for seven hours straight overnight. Oh, I
18:25
Speaker 1: felt so sorry for her. She looked pretty good considering
18:28
Speaker 1: she'd been up all night. And I've got to say,
18:30
Speaker 1: Harlow is a gorgeous looking baby. He looks a lot
18:33
Speaker 1: like Fox. Yeah, he really does. And he weighed in
18:36
Speaker 1: at 2.8 kilos and Sarah gave some insights into his birth.
18:40
Speaker 1: She said it was probably the best birth that she'd had. Yeah,
18:43
Speaker 1: because in the lead up, she spoke about a lot
18:45
Speaker 1: of anxiety she had leading into her labor because she
18:48
Speaker 1: did have two very unpleasant experiences when giving birth to
18:52
Speaker 1: Fox and Malachi. But it sounded like this as you said, Amy,
18:54
Speaker 1: was the best labor out of the lot. She said,
18:56
Speaker 1: whilst it did go for a long time, the actual
18:58
Speaker 1: pushing time didn't take long and it came out very quickly.
19:02
Speaker 1: We are going to see that in her labor vlog.
19:04
Speaker 1: I don't know when that will come out. She said
19:06
Speaker 1: she hasn't had an opportunity, obviously, to even look back
19:09
Speaker 1: at the vision yet.
19:10
Speaker 2: Yeah.
19:10
Speaker 1: Well, it's only been a few days. I liked how
19:12
Speaker 1: real Sarah has been about the birth of a third
19:15
Speaker 1: child because she's showed herself wearing an adult nappy. She
19:18
Speaker 1: hasn't made it look entirely glamorous, but just relatable. It
19:21
Speaker 1: looks pretty hideous, to be honest, because as you said,
19:23
Speaker 1: like seven hours of feeding and constant cluster feeding, it
19:27
Speaker 1: sounds awful. I think a lot of people were surprised
19:29
Speaker 1: to find out that Sarah gave birth in a public
19:31
Speaker 1: hospital and she has for every one of her pregnancies.
19:34
Speaker 1: I really like that because, I mean, the standard of
19:37
Speaker 1: cover that you have to have to get into a
19:39
Speaker 1: private hospital and how much it costs is absolutely absurd.
19:42
Speaker 1: And the out-of-pocket expenses, like it's not just if you
19:44
Speaker 1: have the top health care that you walk in and
19:47
Speaker 1: they just deliver the baby. Sometimes if you have to
19:49
Speaker 1: have say, an unplanned C-section, you get a bill of $ 10, 000.
19:52
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I mean, and at the end of the day,
19:56
Speaker 1: if you're in a private hospital and something goes wrong,
19:58
Speaker 1: you get sent to a public hospital anyway. One thing
20:02
Speaker 1: that stood out to me is that Sarah hasn't shown
20:04
Speaker 1: any body checks yet. Thank goodness. No, it's still early days,
20:10
Speaker 1: but I think it's a promising sign. That being said,
20:12
Speaker 1: she has been trying to sell us her pregnancy e-book,
20:15
Speaker 1: so it may come in the next couple of weeks.
20:19
Speaker 1: Maybe I do have an issue. Former My Kitchen Rules
20:22
Speaker 1: contestant Ash Pollard has revealed she was fired by her
20:26
Speaker 1: house cleaners for having unrealistic expectations. In a 10-minute rant,
20:30
Speaker 1: the 38-year-old confessed it's not the first time cleaners have
20:34
Speaker 1: pulled the pin on their working relationship. Now, before we
20:37
Speaker 1: get into it, Soph, who is Ash Pollard? Well, she
20:40
Speaker 1: first appeared on My Kitchen Rules back in 2015. And
20:44
Speaker 1: these were really the glory days of the show when
20:47
Speaker 1: the whole nation was captivated by the dinner parties and
20:50
Speaker 1: really bought into the storylines. Yeah, because she and her partner, Camilla,
20:54
Speaker 1: who was her best friend, they were cast as the
20:56
Speaker 1: outspoken villains on it. They got a lot of hate
20:59
Speaker 1: during that series of My Kitchen Rules. Yeah, and the
21:01
Speaker 1: show was really pushing that they were these Melbourne socialites
21:04
Speaker 1: who loved going to the polo and the races. But
21:07
Speaker 1: it was quite funny because viewers at home started referring
21:10
Speaker 1: to them as cashed up bogans. And they started saying
21:13
Speaker 1: that they spoke like Prue and Trude from Kath and Kim.
21:15
Speaker 1: But Ash and Camilla came out and said, if anything,
21:18
Speaker 1: we look more like Kath and Kim. And like most
21:20
Speaker 1: reality TV villains, they came out hard in the press saying,
21:23
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, the show has portrayed us in a
21:26
Speaker 1: way that we are not. We weren't mean. We just
21:29
Speaker 1: said things that were bad about the food. For those
21:31
Speaker 1: who haven't seen the show, their comments were so bad
21:33
Speaker 1: that people thought they were actually paid actors. Well, they
21:36
Speaker 1: thought that Ash was a paid actor because some journo
21:38
Speaker 1: found some previous work or ads that she'd been in.
21:41
Speaker 1: What's those like star now profiles they always seem to
21:43
Speaker 1: come across? Well, she hit out and said, there's no
21:45
Speaker 1: way I'm acting. That is all completely natural. I'm a
21:48
Speaker 1: bit of a weirdo. Now, since MKR, Ash has appeared
21:51
Speaker 1: on Dancing with the Stars, I'm a Celeb and also
21:54
Speaker 1: The Traitor's. And she even had her own breakfast radio show.
21:57
Speaker 2: Yeah.
21:57
Speaker 1: Well, she's been very successful since MKR. And I think
22:00
Speaker 1: a lot of it had to do with her appearance
22:01
Speaker 1: on I'm a Celeb because she really was able to
22:04
Speaker 1: redeem herself on there. She showed another side of her personality. Yeah.
22:08
Speaker 1: And now she's the mom of two girls called Clementine
22:11
Speaker 1: and Claudette. That just made me laugh because she obviously
22:14
Speaker 1: has this reputation of being a bit of a snob.
22:17
Speaker 1: And those are very like snobby socialite names. And she
22:20
Speaker 1: does a fair bit of influencing work now. And she's
22:23
Speaker 1: actually represented by Roxy Jasenko's Ministry of Talent. So she's
22:26
Speaker 1: got 126,000 followers exactly at the moment. So quite a
22:31
Speaker 1: good following considering she was on a show almost 10
22:33
Speaker 1: years ago. Well, this week, Ash made headlines by revealing
22:37
Speaker 1: she was fired by her house cleaners. So in a
22:40
Speaker 1: 10-minute rant that she posted to Instagram, Ash explained that
22:43
Speaker 1: her cleaners told her her standards were too high for
22:46
Speaker 1: their service before pulling the pin on their working agreement. Now,
22:50
Speaker 1: she chose not to name the cleaning company but slammed
22:53
Speaker 1: their service saying no one wants to put in the
22:55
Speaker 1: hard work these days. It was very Kimmy K-esque what
22:58
Speaker 1: she was saying. Let's throw to a bit of it.
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Speaker 4: Just wondering, is it possible to be fired by your
23:07
Speaker 4: own employee.
23:11
Speaker 2: Because I just was.
23:12
Speaker 4: My cleaner fired me as their client. Do you want
23:17
Speaker 4: to know why? My cleaner said that my expectations were
23:22
Speaker 4: too high for their service.
23:25
Speaker 1: Maybe I do have an issue.
23:27
Speaker 2: Because I just keep thinking it's them.
23:28
Speaker 1: No, it's not fucking me.
23:30
Speaker 4: It's them.
23:31
Speaker 1: Seriously.
23:32
Speaker 4: What is wrong with people these days? People's standards are low.
23:38
Speaker 4: People just have low standards or they're not willing to
23:41
Speaker 4: put the fucking work in.
23:43
Speaker 1: Look, I feel like the problem sits with Ash because
23:46
Speaker 1: this isn't the first time that she's been fired. Her
23:48
Speaker 1: previous cleaners also told her that she was expecting too much.
23:53
Speaker 1: I suspect she was paying through the nose for these
23:55
Speaker 1: cleaners as well because anyone who listens to the podcast
23:58
Speaker 1: and runs a business, you will know there is something
24:00
Speaker 1: in the industry called a dickhead tax. And these cleaners
24:03
Speaker 1: would have added a dickhead tax to her cleaning service. Well, yeah,
24:06
Speaker 1: she did actually confirm that they were being paid very well,
24:09
Speaker 1: but she didn't specify the amount. She also said that
24:12
Speaker 1: her house was brand new when she and her family
24:14
Speaker 1: moved in a few years ago and that she employed
24:17
Speaker 1: the cleaners in question to visit every fortnight. And she
24:20
Speaker 1: was basically doing the upkeep in between. Now, things came
24:24
Speaker 1: to a head when Ash discovered that there was mold
24:27
Speaker 1: in her shower. She claimed that there was mould in
24:30
Speaker 1: the grout and that she was expecting the cleaners to
24:33
Speaker 1: get on their hands and knees and scrub. Now, her
24:36
Speaker 1: list of complaints didn't end there because it appears that
24:39
Speaker 1: she was very dissatisfied with the way that they also
24:42
Speaker 1: mopped the floors. Let's listen to what she said.
24:45
Speaker 2: They'd just lightly go over, like just wet the floor
24:50
Speaker 2: like that and mop themselves out of the house. No,
24:55
Speaker 2: mopping is like this, you know. And then that's what
25:00
Speaker 2: mopping is. It's not like out of the house, just
25:03
Speaker 2: making it look wet. It's getting the shit off the floor.
25:07
Speaker 2: You need to be fucking breaking your back and sweating
25:09
Speaker 2: for that.
25:11
Speaker 1: I kind of get where she's coming from. I don't
25:13
Speaker 1: have a regular house cleaner, but I've used cleaners before
25:16
Speaker 1: when I've done an end of lease clean. And things
25:18
Speaker 1: are different in Adelaide because they expect the house to
25:20
Speaker 1: be spotless. And sometimes you are paying a fuck ton
25:23
Speaker 1: of money to have them there. And you're sort of like,
25:26
Speaker 1: could have done this better myself. Yeah, but you can't
25:28
Speaker 1: expect these cleaners to come in every week and do
25:31
Speaker 1: an end of lease style clean. Oh, definitely not. Like
25:33
Speaker 1: it's meant to be upkeep. Well, in this rant, it
25:36
Speaker 1: was quite funny because Ash was taking her followers around
25:39
Speaker 1: her home and showing them the areas that she was
25:41
Speaker 1: dissatisfied with. And she discovered that the cleaners never picked
25:45
Speaker 1: up her furniture to clean underneath and that they would
25:48
Speaker 1: just vacuum around. She also found dust on the skirting
25:52
Speaker 1: boards on top of her alcohol collection and and also
25:55
Speaker 1: on the base of her floor lamp and in between
25:57
Speaker 1: the tiles of her kitchen. Was it actually bad? Look,
26:00
Speaker 1: it was dust. I don't know if dusting was part
26:03
Speaker 1: of their contract or not. Now, she declared that she
26:05
Speaker 1: doesn't want a speck of dust anywhere and that she's
26:08
Speaker 1: invested in a feather duster now to eliminate that problem.
26:12
Speaker 4: What do you mean?
26:12
Speaker 1: She didn't have one before. Well, no. And I think
26:15
Speaker 1: she assumes that her cleaners didn't own one either. Now
26:18
Speaker 1: she reiterated that she was aware that this is a
26:20
Speaker 1: first world problem and she wanted to make it clear
26:23
Speaker 1: that she really respects good cleaners and she prefaced that
26:26
Speaker 1: she's a very good cleaner herself but would prefer to
26:29
Speaker 1: outsource and not do it Because she doesn't want to
26:32
Speaker 1: waste her time. Look, she's not doing a good job
26:35
Speaker 1: advertising her home for potential cleaners. No one is going
26:39
Speaker 1: to want to accept that job. Well, it's funny you
26:41
Speaker 1: say that because one cleaning company clearly saw this as
26:44
Speaker 1: an opportunity to promote their services. And in response to
26:47
Speaker 1: Ash's rant, they created a reel saying that they were
26:50
Speaker 1: up for the job and just as passionate about cleaning
26:53
Speaker 1: as her. Let's throw to what they said.
26:56
Speaker 3: Ash, you don't have an issue. The cleaners have an issue.
27:01
Speaker 3: Because cleaners clean. That's our job. But do you know
27:07
Speaker 3: what you need? You need SMK. You need Kylie or
27:12
Speaker 3: Cody to come and clean your home. Because I promise you,
27:17
Speaker 3: there won't be no moldy ground. The standards and the
27:21
Speaker 3: expectation that you expect, we deliver every single time. So Kylie,
27:28
Speaker 3: do your thing, baby.
27:30
Speaker 1: This is just giving me horrible flashbacks to when we
27:33
Speaker 1: rented this home and the owner had the most unrealistic
27:37
Speaker 1: expectations of how much we had to clean the house. Remember,
27:41
Speaker 1: it was literally like we had wardrobes and she said
27:44
Speaker 1: that we had to polish the track where the wardrobe
27:46
Speaker 1: slid across. It was worse with the tiles. We had
27:49
Speaker 1: these white tiles and we were staying in a really
27:52
Speaker 1: beautiful house near the beach. I don't know how we
27:55
Speaker 1: lucked out on this place. This would have been like
27:57
Speaker 1: seven years ago when rent wasn't that ridiculous. Well, there
28:00
Speaker 1: was three of us paying. Yeah, well, there was three
28:01
Speaker 1: of us in there. But yeah, it had these beautiful,
28:03
Speaker 1: pristine white tiles. And she literally had a manual on
28:07
Speaker 1: how to clean them. It was using floor polish. No,
28:11
Speaker 1: it was car polish. Sorry, car polish. And they expected us, again,
28:14
Speaker 1: like Ash said, to be on our hands and knees
28:16
Speaker 1: every day scrubbing. They even told us that in order
28:19
Speaker 1: to keep up with the cleaning, that they suggested that
28:21
Speaker 1: we have a full-time cleaner come in. But I mean,
28:24
Speaker 1: I was like, In your 20s, who the fuck can
28:26
Speaker 1: afford that? See, I've never had a cleaner. I've always
28:30
Speaker 1: done my own cleaning as I think most people probably
28:32
Speaker 1: listening to this have done. I would feel really uncomfortable
28:36
Speaker 1: having a cleaner come in because I would feel like
28:38
Speaker 1: I had to clean before they came in because they'd
28:40
Speaker 1: be judging me. Well, my friend, she has a fantastic
28:44
Speaker 1: cleaner and this is someone who we actually got in
28:46
Speaker 1: for that lace clean to fix a few things up.
28:49
Speaker 1: she was so cheap. Like my friend said, she actually
28:52
Speaker 1: feels terrible and like she's extorting them because it's ridiculously cheap.
28:56
Speaker 1: You do have to- How many people are going to
28:58
Speaker 1: email me and ask me for that number now? I
29:02
Speaker 1: want to know from any listeners, whether you have been
29:04
Speaker 1: fired from someone else providing you a service where you
29:07
Speaker 1: really should have done the firing yourself. We'll put up
29:09
Speaker 1: a thread in our Facebook community. Argentinian police have raided
29:14
Speaker 1: the hotel where One Direction singer Liam Payne died after
29:17
Speaker 1: falling from his third floor balcony. Hard drives and hotel
29:20
Speaker 1: camera footage were seized from Casa Sur as well as
29:23
Speaker 1: registration books. Now, interestingly, police are looking for new intel
29:28
Speaker 1: about the hotel staffers working on the day of Liam's death.
29:32
Speaker 1: And Liam's father, Jeff, as well as Liam's bodyguard, Paul Higgins,
29:35
Speaker 1: have been assisting police in reviewing security vision at the hotel.
29:39
Speaker 1: with Liam's security guard also seen questioning several staff. Yeah
29:43
Speaker 1: now this raid comes after unverified reports that hotel cameras
29:48
Speaker 1: allegedly stopped working one hour before Liam's death which is
29:52
Speaker 1: very suspicious. Now, Jeff was informed last week that Liam's
29:56
Speaker 1: body must stay in Argentina until all reports are finished. Now,
30:00
Speaker 1: this could take some time as they are now reviewing
30:03
Speaker 1: computer data and also security vision. So it must be
30:06
Speaker 1: such a terribly long wait for his family. Now, following
30:10
Speaker 1: the initial toxicology reports, which we discussed on Tuesday's show,
30:13
Speaker 1: it's since been reported that Liam had drugs, including pink
30:17
Speaker 1: cocaine in his system at the time of death. Now,
30:20
Speaker 1: this party drug usually indicates a combination of MDMA, ketamine
30:25
Speaker 1: and methamphetamine, which is not a good mix of drugs
30:28
Speaker 1: to be on. But despite that report, one Argentinian fan
30:32
Speaker 1: is adamant that Liam was not under the influence of
30:35
Speaker 1: drugs and alcohol. Is this a TikToker?
30:38
Speaker 4: No.
30:38
Speaker 1: So she was actually interviewed by an Argentinian TV show
30:42
Speaker 1: and she met Liam on the day of his death.
30:45
Speaker 1: So her name is Deanna and her and her friends
30:47
Speaker 1: were waiting at Hotel Casa Sue in the hope of
30:50
Speaker 1: meeting Liam. So they arrived at 9.30 a.m. and they
30:54
Speaker 1: finally got to meet Liam when he came down to
30:56
Speaker 1: the hotel lobby at three o'clock. So he said he
30:59
Speaker 1: had just recently woken up and came down to see them. Now,
31:02
Speaker 1: they said he was alone and didn't have his bodyguard there.
31:06
Speaker 1: So Liam chatted to the group of girls for 15
31:08
Speaker 1: minutes and Diana rejected claims that he was under the
31:12
Speaker 1: influence of drugs and alcohol. She said he was healthy
31:15
Speaker 1: and talkative. She also said he was speaking really eloquently
31:19
Speaker 1: and he was very calm and grateful that they were there.
31:22
Speaker 1: She also said that Liam spoke about being in awe
31:25
Speaker 1: of the beauty of Argentina, how he was very happy
31:28
Speaker 1: to be there. And he even wanted to move there.
31:31
Speaker 1: So he was talking about future plans. Now, Deanna then
31:34
Speaker 1: told Liam that another friend of theirs was heading to
31:37
Speaker 1: the hotel and she had a present for him. And
31:39
Speaker 1: Liam explained that he was going to head back up
31:42
Speaker 1: to get something to eat, but would come back down
31:44
Speaker 1: later to meet their friend and receive the gift. Now,
31:47
Speaker 1: so that was at 3 p.m. when they met him.
31:50
Speaker 1: So he died at 5 p.m. So she said an
31:53
Speaker 1: hour or so passed and they started seeing weird movements
31:56
Speaker 1: within the hotel. So Deanna said she saw guests running
31:59
Speaker 1: and police officers and ambulances arrive and someone in authority
32:04
Speaker 1: asked them who they were waiting for and she said
32:06
Speaker 1: Liam Payne. They then spoke to hotel staff who said
32:09
Speaker 1: that someone had jumped off a balcony but they didn't
32:12
Speaker 1: say that it was Liam. Now the interviewer asked Deanna
32:15
Speaker 1: if she had seen Liam being destructive in the hotel
32:18
Speaker 1: lobby or causing a scene and she said no. She
32:22
Speaker 1: also claims she never saw the alleged sex workers in
32:25
Speaker 1: the lobby and never saw him arguing over money, which
32:28
Speaker 1: is really odd because there's been so many eyewitness accounts
32:31
Speaker 1: which say very different things occurred. It's not really so
32:35
Speaker 1: many eyewitness accounts. It was really the one main American guy. Yeah,
32:40
Speaker 1: it was him. And again, I'm probably buying into too
32:43
Speaker 1: many TikTok conspiracy theories, but there is a theory going
32:47
Speaker 1: around that he is a crisis actor. Now, those are
32:50
Speaker 1: just allegations. But I just want to reiterate that it's
32:53
Speaker 1: very interesting that Deanna and her group of friends had
32:56
Speaker 1: been waiting there since 9.30. I have been before to
33:02
Speaker 1: hotels waiting for celebrities. You pick up on everything that
33:06
Speaker 1: is happening in the foyer. But were they actually in
33:07
Speaker 1: the foyer the whole time or were they outside? I
33:08
Speaker 1: think they were drifting in and out. But the thing
33:10
Speaker 1: that doesn't make sense is if he told them that
33:12
Speaker 1: he got up at 3 p.m., all of the sex
33:14
Speaker 1: worker stuff was happening earlier in the day. I mean, again,
33:18
Speaker 1: he's hardly going to tell his fans, oh, yeah, I
33:19
Speaker 1: just had two sex workers here. Look, I just think–
33:22
Speaker 1: TikTok can get out of control with conspiracy theories. We
33:25
Speaker 1: saw it with the Kate Middleton drama. It just is concerning.
33:30
Speaker 1: I mean, until police come out and actually give conclusive
33:33
Speaker 1: evidence around what has occurred, it's just going to continue. Yeah,
33:37
Speaker 1: I think the thing for me where I just felt
33:39
Speaker 1: like there might be some validity to what this fan
33:41
Speaker 1: was saying is because when he was trying to get
33:44
Speaker 1: his US visa through, he had to undergo a lot
33:49
Speaker 1: of psychological tests and drug testing, and he was clean
33:52
Speaker 1: at the time. So that's why I just find this
33:56
Speaker 1: new eyewitness account very interesting. Yeah, but I think everyone
33:59
Speaker 1: needs to be really careful because there are so many
34:01
Speaker 1: crazy rumors circulating. I mean, just over the weekend, there
34:04
Speaker 1: was a rumor that Liam's ex, Maya Henry, who filed
34:08
Speaker 1: the cease and desist letter against Liam, was staying at
34:10
Speaker 1: the same hotel. Yeah, she has since come out and
34:13
Speaker 1: said that she has never, ever visited Argentina and that
34:16
Speaker 1: it's completely far-fetched. But this is the concern with TikTok,
34:19
Speaker 1: that there are so many citizen journalists out there that
34:22
Speaker 1: are putting out all of this crap. And if it
34:25
Speaker 1: goes viral, people just start believing it. But I think
34:27
Speaker 1: the other concern is Whilst I think that there are
34:30
Speaker 1: some crazy rumors, I think there are also a lot
34:33
Speaker 1: of unanswered questions. And despite there being so many eyeballs
34:37
Speaker 1: on Liam in the foyer, there was still no vision
34:40
Speaker 1: of him smashing his laptop or acting erratically. But there
34:43
Speaker 1: were so many photos of him, but we never actually
34:45
Speaker 1: saw the vision of him acting erratically. We only saw
34:48
Speaker 1: him being lovely and welcoming to fans. That's, I don't know,
34:52
Speaker 1: for me, I just feel like there is more to
34:55
Speaker 1: this story and more is going to come out The
34:57
Speaker 1: fact that his father is getting involved in the investigation
35:00
Speaker 1: as well, it's clear that he probably doesn't entirely trust
35:04
Speaker 1: the process. Well, there's just so many unanswered questions right now. Well,
35:08
Speaker 1: on that note, I think that is all we have
35:10
Speaker 1: time for today. Thank you so much for joining us
35:12
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Speaker 1: Now this episode was recorded on the traditional land of
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Speaker 1: the Kaurna people of the Adelaide Plains. We pay respect
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Speaker 1: to elders past and present. And sorry for those expecting
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Speaker 1: all three of us to return today. Kate tried to
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Speaker 1: be involved in the recording remotely, but unfortunately the technology
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Speaker 1: wasn't on her side. It was Going in and out.
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Speaker 1: So Sophie and I have just had to record this together.
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Speaker 1: But hopefully Kate will be back later in the week.
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Speaker 1: We do appreciate her contribution to the notes for this podcast.