Latest / Reclaiming Consciousness / Robyn and Alyse Live Channeling Part 2
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- 0:00SPEAKER_01: And I'm not saying don't pay your taxes, but what I'm saying is you don't need to have it mean anything in your life.
- 0:05SPEAKER_01: It can be completely neutral.
- 0:07SPEAKER_01: And I think that's the place that we want to be, and really looking at where are you allowing things to have a hold over you?
- 0:15SPEAKER_03: When we receive large sums of money, we experience trauma response.
- 0:19SPEAKER_03: It is not safe to hold this.
- 0:21SPEAKER_03: I have to get it off my hands as soon as possible.
- 0:23SPEAKER_03: It may not even be our trauma response.
- 0:25SPEAKER_03: It may be familial, genetic, generational.
- 0:27SPEAKER_03: But when we look at trauma response to cash infusions, you can look at lottery winners who win, have this windfall and then it goes out as quickly as it came in.
- 0:37SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Reclaiming Consciousness.
- 0:39SPEAKER_00: My name is Elise Bassine, spiritual mentor, breathwork practitioner, and owner and CEO of Elise Breeds.
- 0:46SPEAKER_00: For many years, our consciousness has been hijacked by societal and cultural programming, religion, the media, and familial and ancestral trauma.
- 0:55SPEAKER_00: Right now, during this epic time in history, people are waking up, realizing who they really are, and reclaiming the pieces of their consciousness that they unknowingly gave away.
- 1:07SPEAKER_00: This podcast is an exploration of how so many spectacular humans are leading the way in exiting the matrix and reclaiming who they really are and what they're capable of.
- 1:18SPEAKER_00: In this show, you'll meet exceptional people who are paving the way in raising consciousness and creating a new way of living on this earth.
- 1:26SPEAKER_00: Get ready to go deep.
- 1:27SPEAKER_00: Now let's dive in.
- 1:34SPEAKER_01: Hi everyone, welcome back to the show.
- 1:36SPEAKER_01: So this week I have part two of the channeling episode that I did with Robin.
- 1:42SPEAKER_01: So we actually recorded this after we recorded the one from last week because we realized there was so much more.
- 1:47SPEAKER_01: And we also just really loved doing channeling in this way where we ask each other questions.
- 1:54SPEAKER_01: Because I know for me, when it comes to channeling, it's so much easier if someone asks me questions because, like, how my channel works is I just can tune into everything, right?
- 2:05SPEAKER_01: So like if I don't have a container for the energy, if I don't have a place to go, then it's kind of just feels all over the place, right?
- 2:13SPEAKER_01: So sitting with her and us taking turns asking each other questions was so powerful and so fun for me and for her too.
- 2:23SPEAKER_01: So this is like a continuation of the last episode, but we go even deeper here around all different topics.
- 2:30SPEAKER_01: I know we talk about business.
- 2:32SPEAKER_01: Honestly, I kind of forget what we talked about fully.
- 2:35SPEAKER_01: I know we talked about just like what we see coming this year and the new energies we're tuning into and all of that.
- 2:42SPEAKER_01: So I know you're gonna love this episode.
- 2:45SPEAKER_01: And speaking of channeling, it's just really interesting because that's just a huge part of what I do, and then ends up being a huge part of what I do with my clients.
- 2:57SPEAKER_01: And the ladies in the sacred six-figure initiation, which is my group immersion for women who are earlier in business, who want to create a business that is fully channeled, fully unique to them, that is fully coming from this higher place.
- 3:14SPEAKER_01: And I'm literally teaching them how to channel all parts of their business, not just what they're teaching, but the way that they're teaching it, how to write frequency-emanating content that's totally channeled.
- 3:26SPEAKER_01: And the way that all of their channels have been opening up and the movement that's happened so far is wild to me.
- 3:33SPEAKER_01: Like a lot of them are full-on downloading, like full programs and full information about what they're supposed to do, what they're supposed to share, and like not just like ideas and fluffy stuff.
- 3:46SPEAKER_01: I'm talking about legit, real information about the body and all of the different parts of the body.
- 3:53SPEAKER_01: That's one woman who's like really focused on the body.
- 3:57SPEAKER_01: Um, but it's like all of this information.
- 3:59SPEAKER_01: And then one of the other women in there like downloaded an entire program that she's meant to teach, her first program.
- 4:07SPEAKER_01: She doesn't have a group program yet, and it all came through to her in like one sitting.
- 4:13SPEAKER_01: And then another one has channeled like these different healing modalities for different parts of the body, for different things in the body.
- 4:21SPEAKER_01: Like it's wild what is going on.
- 4:24SPEAKER_01: And I realize that so much of what happens in my close proximity or when you work with me is your channel opens up, right?
- 4:32SPEAKER_01: And I love watching this happen for people.
- 4:35SPEAKER_01: And I love teaching how to channel because to me, it's a thing that gives me so much joy.
- 4:40SPEAKER_01: And not only that, it's like the way that I connect with the highest frequency possible, right?
- 4:47SPEAKER_01: It's the way that I connect with the divine.
- 4:50SPEAKER_01: So teaching people how to do that is everything to me because I feel like that's actually where we're going when it comes to everything, especially as we've moved into this new energy with Pluto moving into Aquarius.
- 5:03SPEAKER_01: I know I can feel it so much.
- 5:05SPEAKER_01: Um, this week has been so intense on so many levels, just spiritually for me.
- 5:11SPEAKER_01: I feel like so much has opened up.
- 5:13SPEAKER_01: Like, for example, I know I'm going all over the place, but I promise I'm getting somewhere.
- 5:17SPEAKER_01: In my program Divinity Era, which is four channel drops around how to infuse these high-level spiritual principles in all areas of your life to create deep transformation and just create what you want.
- 5:31SPEAKER_01: The first two literally have blown me away because I was shown what was supposed to come through, but like what actually came through in these drops, literally, like I need to go back and listen to them because I'm gonna be learning from them too.
- 5:44SPEAKER_01: And like that's the level that we want to get to with our channeling, is like the human part of you is like, whoa, this is big.
- 5:52SPEAKER_01: And you're learning from it too.
- 5:54SPEAKER_01: And that's what I love about it and why I love teaching it.
- 5:58SPEAKER_01: So I am opening up a couple spaces for a private channeling mentorship.
- 6:04SPEAKER_01: And I opened this up last year and it was wild.
- 6:08SPEAKER_01: And one of the women who did it, she's still working with me and she's like a full-on channel now.
- 6:13SPEAKER_01: So this is gonna be a high-level mentorship with me where, you know, we end up doing everything, right?
- 6:20SPEAKER_01: Business and life and all the things, but the big focus is on channeling and opening up your channel and using that information to take action and make decisions in all areas of your life.
- 6:33SPEAKER_01: So if you're interested in that, just reach out to me because that's not something I'm really sharing about too much because it's only for like a very specific person.
- 6:41SPEAKER_01: So just reach out to me if that's something you desire to do and we can chat about that.
- 6:47SPEAKER_01: And then also the channeling that we do in this episode is really awesome, just to wrap that part up.
- 6:54SPEAKER_01: And it just ends up being so much of what I do in these other spaces as well, but just in different based on what the focus of the program is, it's gonna be in a different capacity, right?
- 7:05SPEAKER_01: That's that.
- 7:06SPEAKER_01: And then right now, the biggest things we have going on is I have the certification starting on February 8th.
- 7:14SPEAKER_01: And just so you know, there is an extended payment plan option that's available now.
- 7:20SPEAKER_01: It's available through Teachable, which I just learned about.
- 7:23SPEAKER_01: And it's really exciting because it gives you the option to join with a pretty low monthly payment.
- 7:28SPEAKER_01: Um, and you spread the payments over time.
- 7:30SPEAKER_01: I like to think of the certification as if like you're going back to get a master's degree, essentially, or you're going back to get a PhD.
- 7:37SPEAKER_01: Like that's the level of information and knowledge that is here.
- 7:41SPEAKER_01: So obviously it's an investment, right?
- 7:44SPEAKER_01: The certification is 12K, which is still less than, you know, going to get a master's degree.
- 7:51SPEAKER_01: But the point is you're learning at that level and you're also gonna leave very well trained to be well paid as a healer because of your the depth of knowledge and the skill set that you're gonna have.
- 8:03SPEAKER_01: Because, you know, I think where a lot of healers can plateau is just, you know, the level of training that you have.
- 8:11SPEAKER_01: So, and even if you have a lot of natural talent, that only takes you so far because if you have a level of training around trauma where you can really take people on a journey and continue to go deeper and continue to go deeper.
- 8:25SPEAKER_01: And then, you know, that creates these really tangible, predictable results that you get with everybody, then you become known for your results, right?
- 8:33SPEAKER_01: And that's what I teach you in the program.
- 8:35SPEAKER_01: And you leave with a very wide range of skills, right?
- 8:39SPEAKER_01: So you have the breastwork component, which you will leave very, you know, mastered in.
- 8:45SPEAKER_01: And then you'll leave with the energy work component where I show you how to read energy, how to channel energy work.
- 8:51SPEAKER_01: And I, it's a very nuanced, very like I break it down for you in a very big way.
- 8:56SPEAKER_01: So you really deeply understand it and you're able to embody it.
- 9:00SPEAKER_01: And then you, of course, have the trauma piece, right?
- 9:02SPEAKER_01: Which to me sets us apart from anything else.
- 9:05SPEAKER_01: Cause I'm really showing you from not only my abilities as a healer, but my experience as a mental health professional and someone who's trained in this, I'm really showing you how to pinpoint trauma on a very deep level.
- 9:19SPEAKER_01: Because to me, if you're walking someone to transformation, if you can't see the deepest level of trauma with them, they're not going to move as quickly as you'd like because you're not getting to the cause of the issue, right?
- 9:34SPEAKER_01: So if you can get to the cause with somebody every single time, they're gonna shift really fast because we're clearing things out at the root.
- 9:42SPEAKER_01: And that's what I show you how to do with my trauma framework and the way I show you how to clear familial and ancestral trauma and pinpoint it with people and walk people to transformation.
- 9:53SPEAKER_01: And then, of course, there's the piece around, you know, the thought is creative, how to step into higher states of consciousness, all of these things.
- 10:01SPEAKER_01: So this is a very well-rounded program, and there's a lot here.
- 10:06SPEAKER_01: And I would say if you know you want to be a healer or you are a healer, or if you're a coach, or if you have a business or want to start a business doing anything to work with clients to get results, this will be the only skill set you need because I really show you how to look at it from every single angle.
- 10:25SPEAKER_01: And I really prepare you to deal with any single thing that could come up potentially with a client.
- 10:31SPEAKER_01: So you feel really confident in working with any type of person.
- 10:35SPEAKER_01: That's that.
- 10:36SPEAKER_01: We start on the eighth.
- 10:37SPEAKER_01: And again, it's now easier than ever to join.
- 10:40SPEAKER_01: So if you were interested, but you weren't sure about the financial piece, now that might not be an issue for you anymore.
- 10:46SPEAKER_01: So reach out to me and I'll give you the info or Kia, my assistant, will give you the info about that.
- 10:51SPEAKER_01: But yeah, this certification is nine months.
- 10:55SPEAKER_01: We meet twice a month, plus you have your exchanges.
- 10:58SPEAKER_01: We go very deep and you will leave feeling very ready to not only work with clients, but also have a business where you're comfortable getting paid high ticket because of your skill set and your ability to articulate everything that you're doing in a very tangible way.
- 11:16SPEAKER_01: So reach out to me if you would like more information about the program and about the extended payment plan and to see if this is a fit for you.
- 11:25SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna leave it there.
- 11:26SPEAKER_01: There's a lot more going on, but stay tuned.
- 11:29SPEAKER_01: I have my mastermind birthright that's coming up too, that I will talk about another time because I know that this intro is getting long and I want you to get to the episode.
- 11:40SPEAKER_01: But if you are around 10K right now and you really want to take your business to the next level and you want to do it in a way that is very unique and supportive to you and only you, and you really want to build programs that showcase your unique genius and you want to create a brand that emanates your unique frequency, again, in a way that's unique to you.
- 12:05SPEAKER_01: This will be for you.
- 12:06SPEAKER_01: So reach out to me if you're interested in more details about birthright, and I'll be sharing more as it gets closer.
- 12:13SPEAKER_01: I am sending you so much love.
- 12:15SPEAKER_01: Oh, one more thing.
- 12:16SPEAKER_01: Breathwork Money and Receiving is back, and it's gonna include a seven-day boxer broadcast that'll start in mid-Feb.
- 12:24SPEAKER_01: When you sign up now for only 333, you get the recordings, and then you'll be included in the Voxer broadcast where I'm gonna be sharing all of the new teachings and downloads I have around the new paradigm of receiving and becoming the receiver.
- 12:40SPEAKER_01: So this is very different than receiving more or trying to receive more money.
- 12:46SPEAKER_01: This is much different.
- 12:47SPEAKER_01: This is becoming the receiver, which is a much different energy.
- 12:51SPEAKER_01: And when you learn how to embody it, things just flow to you and through you in a much different way.
- 12:58SPEAKER_01: And this is what I'm gonna show you and teach you and initiate you into inside the Voxer broadcast and in the training.
- 13:05SPEAKER_01: The training includes two breath work sessions, plus my teachings on the new paradigm of receiving and how to receive money using my unique breathwork methodology.
- 13:16SPEAKER_01: We will link that below as well.
- 13:18SPEAKER_01: When you sign up, like I said, you get it right away, and then you'll be included in the Voxer broadcast.
- 13:23SPEAKER_01: Love my Voxer broadcasts, they blow my mind every time.
- 13:27SPEAKER_01: So you'll love it too.
- 13:29SPEAKER_01: Okay, I'm gonna leave it there.
- 13:30SPEAKER_01: I'm sending you so much love, and I will talk to you soon.
- 13:36SPEAKER_01: Hi, everyone, welcome back to the show.
- 13:38SPEAKER_01: So, again, we have Dr.
- 13:41SPEAKER_01: Robin McKay here for another tantalizing conversation.
- 13:46SPEAKER_01: Robin and I are always having these like very deep and profound conversations on the phone.
- 13:54SPEAKER_01: So it's like, why not bring it here so everyone can benefit from the two of us?
- 14:00SPEAKER_01: Just like, I feel like we're both so heady too.
- 14:03SPEAKER_01: Like, we'll just like really go down the rabbit hole with some things.
- 14:09SPEAKER_01: So I think today we'll see where it goes, but we want to talk a little bit about businessy stuff, and then we're gonna do some channeling.
- 14:16SPEAKER_01: So this is like part two, and you most likely heard part one last week.
- 14:21SPEAKER_01: And if not, maybe you want to listen to part one first.
- 14:24SPEAKER_01: But we're gonna talk a little bit about business and then we're both gonna channel our highest ascension points, Marisol for Robin and Selena for me, and we're gonna ask each other questions and see what comes through.
- 14:36SPEAKER_01: And last time I had so much fun doing that, and I actually felt like high from it like the rest of the day.
- 14:43SPEAKER_01: And it's funny because I've been really bringing the energy of Selena into my body.
- 14:50SPEAKER_01: And when I do that, I feel this feeling of like ecstasy.
- 14:54SPEAKER_01: And I, and I've been trying to hold on to it for longer and longer because for me, I think like I can allow myself to feel it, but then I like immediately have to go do something else or bring it down or whatever.
- 15:06SPEAKER_01: So, and I've been talking about this with my clients too, is like, how long can we hold this feeling?
- 15:13SPEAKER_01: And I think we're gonna be just like seeing more and more of that as we move into 2024.
- 15:19SPEAKER_01: At least I feel that way.
- 15:20SPEAKER_01: Now we have this opportunity to shift into these higher frequencies of joy and ecstasy and excitement and fun and enjoying life.
- 15:33SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, what do you think about that, Robin?
- 15:36SPEAKER_01: First of all, welcome, Robin.
- 15:38SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
- 15:40SPEAKER_03: I think everyone knows who you are, but if you want to know my goodness, well yes, I'll look different than I did in part one with my hair color.
- 15:50SPEAKER_01: Everyone, Robin, now has red hair and it's beyond.
- 15:54SPEAKER_01: I don't even have warts.
- 15:55SPEAKER_01: It's gorgeous.
- 15:56SPEAKER_03: Well, I dreamed it two a little over two months ago.
- 16:00SPEAKER_03: And in my dream, my highest point of ascension was there, and she had red hair.
- 16:05SPEAKER_03: And I woke up from that and I was like, oh, I have to have red hair.
- 16:08SPEAKER_03: So I started the process and I just had red roots and kind of red peekaboo strips.
- 16:12SPEAKER_03: And then this last time I went in, we did the whole shebang.
- 16:16SPEAKER_03: So I'm happy to be here.
- 16:19SPEAKER_03: Yes, thank you.
- 16:20SPEAKER_03: And you know, the interesting thing is that it feels completely, I'll say normal and I don't mean it like average, but it just feels like it's supposed to be that way.
- 16:28SPEAKER_03: Somebody asked me, they wondered what my red hair was going to help me embody.
- 16:33SPEAKER_03: And I think it's the highest ascension point, right?
- 16:36SPEAKER_03: It would make sense.
- 16:38SPEAKER_01: Yeah, totally.
- 16:39SPEAKER_01: It does make sense.
- 16:40SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 16:41SPEAKER_03: So I'm happy to be here and be back and see what's gonna come through for us today because we do have a lot of fun conversations.
- 16:48SPEAKER_03: We just call each other during the week and just like processing.
- 16:54SPEAKER_01: Yeah, what's happening for you?
- 16:56SPEAKER_01: And also just like the deeper things of what we're seeing going on in the collective.
- 17:01SPEAKER_01: I know we were talking too about, I was feeling a lot of, especially like around the turn of the year, like the last week of the year into the first week of the new year.
- 17:11SPEAKER_01: I was feeling all of these like timeline hops, especially being down in Florida with my brother.
- 17:18SPEAKER_01: Like that to me, and I know I've talked about this on the show before, but that to me feels like a total timeline hop because I really have this, and this all happened last year, where I knew that I had a brother for since I was about 14 years old.
- 17:34SPEAKER_01: And I always had this feeling that for lack of a better word, like something bad happened to him.
- 17:38SPEAKER_01: Like I thought maybe he was like he went into the system or he was sent to like the cap priests and whatever they do.
- 17:48SPEAKER_01: Like, that's what I thought because we never heard from him and he never tried to find my mom or anything.
- 17:54SPEAKER_01: So I had this feeling that something else happened.
- 17:59SPEAKER_01: And then when we heard from him, he so easily came into my life and my family.
- 18:05SPEAKER_01: It felt like it was a jump to another timeline where he was part of our family because of the way that he just so easily came in.
- 18:15SPEAKER_01: And I was just feeling that way with some other things too.
- 18:18SPEAKER_01: So it feels, and it almost feels like a convergence of timelines too, as we step into 2024.
- 18:24SPEAKER_01: Do you have any thoughts about that?
- 18:26SPEAKER_03: I think I woke up on the solstice.
- 18:28SPEAKER_03: It was right around that time.
- 18:30SPEAKER_03: And I remember I told this to you as well privately, that in the morning when I woke up, I have my guides come through first thing in the morning.
- 18:37SPEAKER_03: And I heard one of them, it was like a mission control kind of situation.
- 18:41SPEAKER_03: And my guide said the timeline shift has begun.
- 18:46SPEAKER_03: And so whether it's a timeline hop or a timeline shift, depending on probably the velocity of it, if nothing else, yeah, there's been a lot of shifts happening in terms of how we are relating with the future.
- 19:01SPEAKER_03: And so when you start talking about frequencies and channeling joy, channeling enthusiasm, channeling ecstasy and that kind, those kinds of high frequencies, those are the frequencies that are going to expediate the ultimate destination of the timeline, which is, I would consider it the highest timeline that you could be on.
- 19:24SPEAKER_03: And I think that what pulls us apart from that, pulls us apart from the highest timeline, is when we are steeped in worry or fear or confusion or uncertainty.
- 19:35SPEAKER_03: And when we give primacy to emotions or to, I'll say, thinking states, for example, of uncertainty.
- 19:43SPEAKER_03: I'm not sure what's going to happen next, or I'm not sure how it's going to happen.
- 19:46SPEAKER_03: Those are actually experiences that are going to slow down the ultimate destination.
- 19:53SPEAKER_01: I've been thinking about that a lot.
- 19:54SPEAKER_01: And I told you I've been listening to a lot of Neville Goddard.
- 19:57SPEAKER_01: I love Neville.
- 19:58SPEAKER_03: And he talks, I love he's old school.
- 20:00SPEAKER_03: He is so old school, and I've listened to him for years.
- 20:02SPEAKER_01: Oh my God, he's so good.
- 20:04SPEAKER_01: So I was listening to one of his books that's called Manifest Your Desires.
- 20:08SPEAKER_01: And it's funny because if I saw like a new person writing a book like that, I would be like, bye.
- 20:13SPEAKER_01: Like I'm not reading that.
- 20:14SPEAKER_01: But he's like very like he's channeling something.
- 20:17SPEAKER_01: And this book is all about like he interprets stories from the Bible as like more psychological and spiritual lessons versus like actual history or what happened.
- 20:28SPEAKER_01: The Bible is not telling you what happened, it's giving you these like parables so you can understand the nature of consciousness.
- 20:36SPEAKER_01: So, anyway, he talks a lot about changing your future and how to change the future.
- 20:42SPEAKER_01: And all of it is about like being in these higher frequency feelings and emotions.
- 20:49SPEAKER_01: And one of the things that I'll say about that, because I think it can be a little bit of a jump for people.
- 20:54SPEAKER_01: Like I know for me that spent a lot of my time unknowingly in worry or fear, I think I had to, it was hard for me to just jump right to, okay, now I'm gonna be in ecstasy, right?
- 21:08SPEAKER_01: But one of the things that I found myself practicing a lot this year is just simply neutrality.
- 21:14SPEAKER_01: So, like just being able to look at a situation in front of me that may have typically given me anxiety or worry, or it's not what I wanted, and just be able to look at it with neutrality and kind of have this wider perspective of like, okay, I know where I'm going.
- 21:33SPEAKER_01: And this is obviously just a step to go where I'm going instead of personalizing it or making it about me or making it mean that there's something wrong with me or whatever.
- 21:45SPEAKER_01: It was more just like looking at it from this place of neutrality.
- 21:49SPEAKER_01: And once I mastered that, then it was so much easier for me to access and maintain those higher frequency feelings.
- 21:59SPEAKER_03: So the Practice of that you described so beautifully.
- 22:04SPEAKER_03: And then we have to look at the kind of infrastructure for how that happens, which is your nervous system.
- 22:10SPEAKER_03: And so when your nervous system is well managed, is healthy, is pliable, is flexible, emotionally responsive rather than reactive, that's the condition that is required for even neutrality.
- 22:24SPEAKER_03: You know, the Buddhists got it right.
- 22:25SPEAKER_03: I think when they talk about mindfulness, paying attention on purpose with an open heart without judgment.
- 22:31SPEAKER_03: And the way to that is through, in part through meditation, but there are also obviously other things that we do to restore the nervous system.
- 22:39SPEAKER_03: And once the nervous system is restored, then it becomes such a less arduous, I'll say, task to maintain neutrality.
- 22:50SPEAKER_03: I've been thinking about neutrality as zero point.
- 22:52SPEAKER_03: Yes.
- 22:53SPEAKER_03: And then you can, depending on what the circumstance is, you don't have to be hooked into it.
- 23:00SPEAKER_03: You don't have to be hooked into the red light that is taking too long to turn green, or you don't have to be hooked into whether or not your partner picked up his toothpick, for example.
- 23:13SPEAKER_01: I have a feeling that is a real life example.
- 23:16SPEAKER_03: It is a real life example.
- 23:18SPEAKER_03: Yes, it is.
- 23:21SPEAKER_03: And when you can operate from neutrality, then you don't get hooked back into these old timelines that just keep you in the spin cycle.
- 23:30SPEAKER_01: Yes, absolutely.
- 23:32SPEAKER_01: And I think that's a great place to start.
- 23:34SPEAKER_01: And the other thing that's coming to mind as you're talking is when we talk about the nervous system, which it is what it is, right?
- 23:41SPEAKER_01: I think it's sometimes boring to talk about the nervous system.
- 23:43SPEAKER_01: But no, are you kidding me?
- 23:45SPEAKER_03: When is it ever boring to talk about?
- 23:47SPEAKER_01: I think it's boring.
- 23:49SPEAKER_01: But because I think we can go beyond it, right?
- 23:52SPEAKER_01: I don't think we need to focus on that as a thing.
- 23:56SPEAKER_01: I think that if we continue to move into higher states of consciousness, I think the nervous system works itself out.
- 24:03SPEAKER_01: But anyway, that's a different thing.
- 24:05SPEAKER_03: No, that is a very good point.
- 24:07SPEAKER_03: That is a very good point.
- 24:08SPEAKER_03: Like that when you're moving into, we'll call it yeah, divine perfection or however you want to think about that, that's going to sort itself out as well.
- 24:17SPEAKER_01: It is.
- 24:17SPEAKER_01: So it's almost like to me, that's like focusing on a symptom rather than the greater cause of what's going on.
- 24:25SPEAKER_01: But anyway, the other thing that I was thinking about is just really moving into, and this kind of goes into a little bit of the business stuff too, that I think is going to be really helpful for people this year.
- 24:37SPEAKER_01: Really understanding on a very deep level that we are very conditioned and programmed to think that we're living in response to the universe, right?
- 24:49SPEAKER_01: Like in response to what we're seeing, but actually understanding that like the universe is responding to you.
- 24:55SPEAKER_01: And that's actually how things work.
- 24:58SPEAKER_01: And I think that this is a place where people get really tripped up in business because they're running their business from a place of responding to how they think people are responding to them, right?
- 25:11SPEAKER_01: Or how they think people are responding to their offers or their whatever.
- 25:16SPEAKER_01: And then they move and take action and make decisions based on what they think the response is versus you being the one that leads the energy and continuing to lead the energy so that the universe responds to you.
- 25:32SPEAKER_01: And this is a very big paradigm shift that I think we'll be required to master in the new paradigm of business.
- 25:40SPEAKER_01: And it's not, it sounds easy, but it's it's challenging.
- 25:44SPEAKER_03: When we think about how computer programs are written, and I'm gonna kick us all the way back to when I was learning simple programming languages like Fortran and the early C and things like that, I knew enough to be dangerous.
- 25:58SPEAKER_03: But I remember that's something that you didn't know about me.
- 26:02SPEAKER_01: No.
- 26:03SPEAKER_03: I was just thinking about the if-then statements, the if-then-else loops that you can program.
- 26:09SPEAKER_03: And when you're coming from a place of responsiveness or even reactivity to something else, it's the if this happens, if somebody responds to me, then I will do this, and or else this other thing will happen.
- 26:21SPEAKER_03: And so when we get that code is embedded in how we live in this world.
- 26:27SPEAKER_03: And so if we can flip the script, because it's an inversion, actually, to your point, as a creative, we are the then.
- 26:36SPEAKER_03: We're the then.
- 26:37SPEAKER_03: We start with then.
- 26:39SPEAKER_03: Does that make sense?
- 26:40SPEAKER_01: Yeah, totally, because we actually get to decide the energy that we're gonna hold, and then we allow everything else to respond to that.
- 26:49SPEAKER_01: And we actually don't realize that's already happening, but we're just misusing it.
- 26:56SPEAKER_01: We don't know how to use it.
- 26:57SPEAKER_03: Yes, and we've been also programmed.
- 27:00SPEAKER_03: My mom used to sing this song to me.
- 27:02SPEAKER_03: I think Sandra Day recorded it in the 60s, quesarasrah, whatever will be will be.
- 27:07SPEAKER_03: The future is not ours to see.
- 27:09SPEAKER_03: Quesarasrah.
- 27:11SPEAKER_03: And I hate that song for like a million reasons at this point, but it brings forward this embedded belief that we don't know what the future is going to be.
- 27:23SPEAKER_03: We don't know what the future is going to hold.
- 27:25SPEAKER_03: And, you know, as a perfect case in point, you and I, before we started recording, were talking about what are we going to talk about today?
- 27:33SPEAKER_03: And we were exploring the things that we had been thinking about, and the outcome was being formed even then.
- 27:40SPEAKER_03: We don't know exactly what it's going to look like, but we know how we're going to feel at the end.
- 27:45SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 27:46SPEAKER_03: And that is the other thing I think we need to look at with business, is the feeling state is so important.
- 27:52SPEAKER_03: How do you want to feel when I spend a lot of time talking about high ticket, selling high-ticket and premium programs and things like that?
- 28:01SPEAKER_03: And a lot of times if we're operating from the beginning, we're not thinking about how do I want to feel after that sale comes in?
- 28:10SPEAKER_03: What is the feeling that I'm cultivating?
- 28:12SPEAKER_03: What is the gesture that I'm going to be expressing on the other side of this?
- 28:17SPEAKER_03: And if we can anchor into those outcomes loosely, meaning not get too tied up in knots about the exactness of it, but the feeling of it for sure is something that's very important along with, and I learned this from Neville years ago, is to have a physical gesture that goes along with the completion, with the manifestation, raising your arms in the air, high-fiving, whatever it is that you're going to do.
- 28:40SPEAKER_03: I knew it.
- 28:41SPEAKER_03: That's my typical one is I knew it.
- 28:43unknown: I knew it.
- 28:45SPEAKER_03: And so when we start playing in this field of creativity, we have so many more choices in terms of how the future is going to go versus something that is already plotted out for us or programmed by some sort of simplistic robotic AI situation.
- 29:01SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 29:02SPEAKER_01: And it's so interesting too what we're coming up against with AI because I saw an ad today on Facebook for it's something where AI just basically creates your whole business for you.
- 29:17SPEAKER_01: I guess they take you can give them pictures.
- 29:19SPEAKER_01: It's literally everything.
- 29:20SPEAKER_01: So you don't need to do a photo shoot or have a designer or anything.
- 29:24SPEAKER_01: It's like AI just creates the whole thing for you.
- 29:27SPEAKER_01: And I was like, holy shit, like that is wild.
- 29:31SPEAKER_01: That is where we're going.
- 29:33SPEAKER_01: But at the same time, I find it to be ironic in a sense because I feel like the whole way that people are actually going to make money is through their authenticity and their uniqueness and their humanness.
- 29:51SPEAKER_01: So it's funny that it's like all of these things are coming forward to quote unquote make things easier for people.
- 30:00SPEAKER_01: And they can, but at the same time, it's not going to be the thing that makes you money, at least not in what we're doing.
- 30:09SPEAKER_01: Maybe in some other realm.
- 30:12SPEAKER_03: What I want us to remember is that AI mines everything that has already been created.
- 30:18SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 30:18SPEAKER_01: It doesn't create.
- 30:20SPEAKER_03: It doesn't create, it mines everything that has already been created.
- 30:23SPEAKER_03: So it's iterating on everything that's been created.
- 30:27SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 30:27SPEAKER_03: We create.
- 30:29SPEAKER_03: And this is why it is so important for us to be connected with our channels, because our channels are the ultimate creators.
- 30:36SPEAKER_03: We're the ultimate creators, actually.
- 30:39SPEAKER_03: And while there may be some place for AI in even in spiritual businesses, because it can help things go faster sometimes.
- 30:49SPEAKER_03: Or I always appreciate getting my calendar first thing in the morning, like Rosie the Robot from the Jetsons, right?
- 30:57SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 30:57SPEAKER_03: But when it comes to creation, we have to remember who the creators are and who the creators are not.
- 31:04SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
- 31:06SPEAKER_01: Does that make sense?
- 31:07SPEAKER_01: Totally.
- 31:08SPEAKER_01: And I think that is really what we're stepping into too is really being able to uniquely create instead of emulating.
- 31:18SPEAKER_01: I did a post the other day about like things that people who are making a shit ton of money are doing that they're not talking about.
- 31:26SPEAKER_01: And then I was talking about at the end how mentorship and coaching at this point, it has to be so much more about observation rather than emulation.
- 31:38SPEAKER_01: Because we can't really emulate someone else and think that we're going to be successful.
- 31:44SPEAKER_01: Because if you really want to create something big, you have to innovate and you have to be willing to like have it really come from you.
- 31:53SPEAKER_01: So it's more just about like observing other people and like just how they are, like what energies they're holding, like what frequencies they're holding or like how they're moving.
- 32:03SPEAKER_01: I was just making that post out of just observing people that have been really successful and saying, oh, they're not worried about other people contradicting them or disagreeing with them, that kind of thing.
- 32:15SPEAKER_01: Or they've decided already that things are working and they're not looking outside of them for like a sign that something's working, right?
- 32:23SPEAKER_01: So it's like those energetic pieces, I feel like are so important, but we can't be looking at people to emulate what they're doing and think that it's gonna work, or it might work a little bit, but it's not going to create like a legacy or a huge impact.
- 32:39SPEAKER_01: It just can't.
- 32:40SPEAKER_03: When we look at other people's work and we emulate, and I've done it, you've done it, I'm sure.
- 32:48SPEAKER_03: Who hasn't?
- 32:49SPEAKER_03: I brought up Marie Forlio's red brick wall in the last episode.
- 32:53SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
- 32:56SPEAKER_03: I must have the red brick wall.
- 32:57SPEAKER_03: That will make all the difference.
- 33:00SPEAKER_03: Bless my heart.
- 33:01SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 33:02SPEAKER_01: And also I think sometimes we do that stuff without even realizing that we're doing it, but it feels like safer to go down a road that was already gone down before.
- 33:14SPEAKER_03: Yes, it's funny that.
- 33:15SPEAKER_03: So I have a doppelganger in the online space.
- 33:18SPEAKER_03: Megan Huber is a dear friend of mine.
- 33:20SPEAKER_03: She and I have been colleagues and friends for years and years, and we look enough alike to be like when we scroll through each other's feeds or through our feeds and we see a picture of each other, we think it's us first before it registers that somebody else.
- 33:33SPEAKER_03: So, anyway, about I don't know, four months or so ago, I noticed that she had changed her hair color to brown.
- 33:40SPEAKER_03: And I didn't think anything of it.
- 33:42SPEAKER_03: And then I had this dream about my red hair.
- 33:45SPEAKER_03: I changed it to red, and then she reached out and said, Oh, by the way, I have brown hair, and isn't that interesting?
- 33:52SPEAKER_03: I didn't, it was not an emulation.
- 33:54SPEAKER_03: It was very, in fact, I would never have done that.
- 33:57SPEAKER_03: I would have never looked at Megan and said, Oh, I need to have brown hair like Megan.
- 34:01SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 34:02SPEAKER_03: But it was interesting that we were both guided to change our hair color for who knows what reason she chose, but she said the same thing that I did, which was it just occurred to me one day and I had a hair appointment and away I went.
- 34:14SPEAKER_03: So the point of it is that when we are following our highest points of ascension, I can be inspired by somebody else's look or somebody else's copy or somebody else's vibe or whatever.
- 34:27SPEAKER_03: I can be inspired by your cute hat and not have to then replicate it.
- 34:32SPEAKER_03: But the AI, to go back to AI, AI is largely a replicator.
- 34:37SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 34:38SPEAKER_01: And I think also too, it's important because a lot of times there are just these feelings in the collective that we're all tapping into.
- 34:46SPEAKER_01: And for example, like you and I are tuned into very similar energies.
- 34:50SPEAKER_01: So it's not surprising that we might come say things that are similar or come up with ideas that are similar, which is common as well.
- 35:00SPEAKER_01: And I feel like sometimes that can trip people up because it's like, oh, well, this person is saying the same thing as me.
- 35:06SPEAKER_01: But really, a lot of people are getting the same thing too.
- 35:10SPEAKER_01: But I think there's a different texture to it when someone is emulating or copying or all of that, which I usually don't really pay much attention to because it just doesn't, it doesn't really serve me.
- 35:22SPEAKER_01: But it is something that I think, especially this year, is really just not gonna work for people anymore the way that it has.
- 35:31SPEAKER_01: Maybe we should move into channeling because I keep feeling like we're supposed to.
- 35:36SPEAKER_03: Yeah, my voice keeps on tripping up.
- 35:38SPEAKER_03: So I think that we need to channel because I agree.
- 35:41SPEAKER_03: It's one thing to hear from us, but I will be happy to ask the questions of okay.
- 35:47SPEAKER_01: All right, let's do it.
- 35:49SPEAKER_03: The goddess Selena.
- 35:50SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 35:51SPEAKER_01: Whatever you want to, whatever you want to know.
- 35:55SPEAKER_01: Let's see what comes through.
- 35:56SPEAKER_01: I'm excited.
- 35:57SPEAKER_03: So, first of all, thank you for the idea for preparing the channel that is happening soon in my world.
- 36:05SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, I meant to say that.
- 36:07SPEAKER_01: I forgot to say that that came out on the last episode.
- 36:10SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's happening.
- 36:11SPEAKER_01: I love it.
- 36:12SPEAKER_03: It's happening.
- 36:12SPEAKER_03: I'm so excited for it.
- 36:14SPEAKER_03: I would like you to speak to the consciousness of the programs.
- 36:20SPEAKER_03: Because I think that just to give some background, when we have an idea for something, a program or some kind of offer, if it doesn't catch fire right away, we get discouraged, it's not working, why isn't it working?
- 36:35SPEAKER_03: Can you speak to the consciousness of the program and anything that we need to know about collaborating with the consciousness of the program in order to bring about the ultimate results?
- 36:44SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm laughing because as you were saying all of that, I keep hearing you have to let it bake.
- 36:52SPEAKER_01: You have to let it bake.
- 36:54SPEAKER_01: It has to bake.
- 36:55SPEAKER_01: And the way that I'm like seeing and interpreting that is it has to be allowed to be born and you have to like give it life.
- 37:05SPEAKER_01: So I think that it means that you spend time with it and you allow it to come forward.
- 37:12SPEAKER_01: And I think this is something that I naturally do, but it's something that, and this is going to be really important for this year too, is you really want to allow it to come forward and sit with the elements that you have and allow them to integrate and seep into your being so that you feel like you really know them.
- 37:35SPEAKER_01: And then you sit with it a little longer and you allow more pieces to come forward.
- 37:41SPEAKER_01: It's almost okay, this is the visual that I'm getting.
- 37:44SPEAKER_01: Do you know how, like, if you're at like you know those charts where it's like there's a big bubble and then there's two bubbles coming from there, and then four bubbles coming from there, and then eight bubbles coming from there?
- 37:57SPEAKER_01: That's the visual I got.
- 37:58SPEAKER_01: So it's like you get the big idea, and then you allow it to be broken down into smaller and smaller pieces so that you can articulate it, you can understand it more deeply, and you can help other people, whatever the concept is that you're teaching and sharing, you can break it down into these smaller parts so that it's easier for people to understand.
- 38:22SPEAKER_01: But you have to allow those smaller parts to come through you first.
- 38:28SPEAKER_01: And sometimes they'll come through as you're teaching it, but I do think it's really important to allow them to come through first so you can much more deeply articulate it when you're talking about it.
- 38:39SPEAKER_01: Because I think that's gonna be really important this year, as I was sharing with you, that for people who are more like healers and teaching these more energetic concepts or working with people to create change, they're going to need to be able to break down and articulate what it is that they're doing for themselves first so they understand it and really understand what we are actually doing here and how can we actually explain it in a way that's going to make sense to people's 3D minds.
- 39:14SPEAKER_01: Because even people who have a very high level of spiritual and emotional intelligence and people who understand energy and healing, they actually still need to be able to grasp it in the 3D because we live in this physical reality.
- 39:31SPEAKER_01: We're humans, and we want to be able to understand like what is actually happening here.
- 39:37SPEAKER_01: And I actually, this is why I'm obsessed with my certification program, is because it actually gives me a space to do that and geek out on all this stuff and talk about like why this works and why this is the way this is and why we do this and what all these small parts are.
- 39:55SPEAKER_01: So I think with any program that you're going to be teaching, you really want to allow it to bake and come into full fruition, like a child developing in the womb almost.
- 40:08SPEAKER_01: It's interesting.
- 40:08SPEAKER_01: I got the message not too long ago about your channel, it is actually the birth canal.
- 40:15SPEAKER_01: When you are channeling, you allow stuff to come through and be born, but it has to develop first.
- 40:23SPEAKER_01: So you have to allow it to fully develop.
- 40:25SPEAKER_01: And I think that's where people can get a little bit wobbly because they don't allow the ideas to fully develop before they talk about it and put it out there.
- 40:36SPEAKER_01: And then it's harder for other people to fully understand what it is that they're doing because they haven't let it fully develop.
- 40:44SPEAKER_01: So I think that's really important when you have an idea to let it bake and let it allow it to be broken down into parts that people can grab onto and understand.
- 40:57SPEAKER_03: That is the exact opposite of the I dream of genie approach to manifestation.
- 41:04SPEAKER_03: Wait, what is the I dream of genie?
- 41:06SPEAKER_03: Well, you know, I dream of genie, you know who I dream of genie is.
- 41:08SPEAKER_03: I do, but I don't know.
- 41:10SPEAKER_03: So she does, crosses her arms, blinks her eyes, nods her head, and poof, the thing is here.
- 41:17SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 41:17SPEAKER_03: And so that is the or a version of that, or Sabrina, the teenage witch, you know, fill in the blank, whoever we want to refer to on TV.
- 41:27SPEAKER_03: So the actual methodology for manifestation requires more artfulness.
- 41:36SPEAKER_03: You know, and TV trick plays tricks on us, of course, and that's part of the the agenda is to play tricks on us and our manifestation.
- 41:43SPEAKER_03: And so when I was a little girl, I had this vision of having a closet filled with dresses, and I had pulled a four-leaf clover and wished for it, and I felt it and I knew it.
- 41:55SPEAKER_03: And then I went home to my closet and there were no dresses.
- 41:58SPEAKER_03: And I was so disappointed and frustrated.
- 42:02SPEAKER_03: Little did I know that the baking process was part of the process.
- 42:06SPEAKER_03: I was still, because I was like four, watching iDream O'Genie, thinking, well, I could just wish it and then it would be so.
- 42:13SPEAKER_03: And it's not that instant manifestation is not possible, correct?
- 42:16SPEAKER_01: No, it's possible.
- 42:18SPEAKER_01: It's just that it has to be the correct conditions.
- 42:22SPEAKER_01: And a lot of times that's just not how it is.
- 42:26SPEAKER_01: And it also, I think the other thing to that, too, is that you have to be unattached to it in a way that most people aren't.
- 42:35SPEAKER_01: I think for things to manifest really quickly, it requires a level of complete detachment that most people don't have when they're trying to do something.
- 42:47SPEAKER_03: So, with regard to the manifestation process, is there a piece that we are missing or have not been has not been illuminated that would be important right now?
- 43:01SPEAKER_01: So the thing I keep seeing is like the vo a void.
- 43:05SPEAKER_01: So I think what the key is here is a lot of people are even unknowingly focusing on the void or focusing on it not being there, even unknowingly.
- 43:20SPEAKER_01: And I think that is the biggest thing that I'm seeing is like to actually just continue to bring yourself back to the feeling that you desire to have, like we were talking about, instead of the lack of it.
- 43:37SPEAKER_01: That's really important.
- 43:38SPEAKER_01: And then also like the other thing that I am shown all the time that I think it's important to say is I don't even necessarily like the word manifestation.
- 43:51SPEAKER_01: And the reason why is because it feels like frivolous in the sense of like, oh, we just can get any.
- 44:00SPEAKER_01: That you want, which not to say that you can't, but a lot of times people are wanting to manifest from a place of wounding, meaning if I get this thing, then I will feel good enough, or if I have what this person has, then I will feel worthy, or I will won't feel abandonment anymore, or whatever it is.
- 44:27SPEAKER_01: So we have to be careful in those scenarios in looking at where the desire is coming from.
- 44:34SPEAKER_01: Because if the desire is coming from a place of trying to overcompensate for something that you believe to be missing or wrong about you, then it's going to be a lot harder to create it, or what you will create won't be exactly what it is that you want because you're coming from a place of assuming that there's something wrong with you.
- 44:56SPEAKER_01: So that's a really important piece because I've seen this with so many people.
- 45:01SPEAKER_01: And then they wonder why things aren't working.
- 45:03SPEAKER_01: And it's because the place that it's coming from is not pure, it's not clear, it's not clean.
- 45:10SPEAKER_01: It's assuming lack or assuming that there's something wrong with you, essentially.
- 45:15SPEAKER_01: So I think that's that there's a problem, right?
- 45:18SPEAKER_01: So I think it's important when you're like tuning into what it is that you want or what it is that you want to create, it's coming from a place that feels like it's meant for you.
- 45:31SPEAKER_01: And it's not like you're trying to make things better with it.
- 45:37SPEAKER_03: Thank you for that.
- 45:39SPEAKER_03: Because what I'm thinking about is when I learned manifestation practices years ago, my teacher would tell stories about how I didn't have a thing, so I did this process and then I got the thing.
- 45:54SPEAKER_03: And a lot of it came from, as I look back, emergency.
- 45:59SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 45:59SPEAKER_03: It's an emergency, and so I require it.
- 46:02SPEAKER_03: And so because it's an emergency and I require it, therefore it's going to come in very quickly.
- 46:08SPEAKER_03: And I used that technique early in my career in my business, and I was able to manifest a lot of money using that particular methodology.
- 46:18SPEAKER_03: But what from your perspective is the problem with that, with always being in emergency mode during manifestation?
- 46:25SPEAKER_01: Because then you think you have to be in emergency mode.
- 46:28SPEAKER_01: And you're, you know, if we bring it back to what we were talking about neutrality, you're not in neutrality, you're in survival or fight or flight.
- 46:40SPEAKER_01: And it's still operating from that place of there's something wrong, there's an emergent need.
- 46:46SPEAKER_01: It's almost if you just missed being hit by a car or something.
- 46:52SPEAKER_01: Like that's that's the image that I'm seeing, or like somehow you miraculous, it's like the mom lifting up the car when her kid is under it.
- 47:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's a miracle, but do we want to create those conditions every time we want to create something?
- 47:07SPEAKER_01: No, yes, that works, but that's also not sustainable.
- 47:11SPEAKER_01: And it's not a place that you want to be in all the time because that doesn't allow for you to experience thriving and overflow and ease and joy.
- 47:22SPEAKER_01: It's just more of like survival.
- 47:26SPEAKER_03: The addiction to adrenaline.
- 47:28SPEAKER_01: Yes, definitely.
- 47:29SPEAKER_01: Definitely.
- 47:30SPEAKER_01: What is the optimal frequency to create in it's neutrality and above.
- 47:39SPEAKER_01: It has to be.
- 47:40SPEAKER_01: If you can get yourself to neutrality first and then tune into what it is that you're creating, then that's gonna be the ultimate.
- 47:52SPEAKER_01: And obviously, if you can be, if you can move into frequencies above, that is really good too.
- 47:59SPEAKER_01: But what I'm hearing too is it's neutrality around your circumstances.
- 48:04SPEAKER_01: So you want to be able to be in this place where you're not making anything wrong about what's happening in your life right now.
- 48:11SPEAKER_01: Like you're not making it wrong.
- 48:13SPEAKER_01: You're just looking at it as this is just is.
- 48:17SPEAKER_01: It just is.
- 48:18SPEAKER_01: And it doesn't mean there's anything wrong with me.
- 48:21SPEAKER_01: It doesn't mean I've done anything wrong.
- 48:23SPEAKER_01: I'm not making this wrong.
- 48:24SPEAKER_01: And I think that's something that that's something that is really going to be called forward for people to shift is to be out of this, fixing, or there's something wrong with me, or what is it that I need to fix in order to have this or in order to create this, and looking at it more of like there's nothing wrong with where I'm at now.
- 48:48SPEAKER_01: This is just where I'm desiring to expand into.
- 48:52SPEAKER_01: And this is just where I'm desiring to go next.
- 48:56SPEAKER_01: So if you can really get to the place where you're not making anything wrong about where you are, that's a very powerful place to be because it actually means that nothing has any kind of hold over you.
- 49:08SPEAKER_01: I was seeing this earlier.
- 49:10SPEAKER_01: There's all these things that are designed to create fear in us and have a hold over us.
- 49:17SPEAKER_01: Like I was thinking in terms of taxes too, because I was thinking about taxes.
- 49:22SPEAKER_01: And I was like, the taxes, and this is not the only thing, and this is not supposed to be a conversation about taxes.
- 49:28SPEAKER_01: I'm just using it as an example.
- 49:30SPEAKER_01: It's something that's like designed to have this hold over you, right?
- 49:34SPEAKER_01: Where you feel like it's like pulling on your energy so that you can't be fully neutral or you can't be fully in your power.
- 49:44SPEAKER_01: But it's also very simple to quickly not allow that to have any kind of power over you, right?
- 49:51SPEAKER_01: And I'm not saying don't pay your taxes, but what I'm saying is you don't need to have it mean anything in your life.
- 49:57SPEAKER_01: It can be completely neutral.
- 49:59SPEAKER_01: And I think that's the place that we want to be and really looking at where are you allowing things to have a hold over you, whether it's a person or an idea or an energy or money or whatever it is, like how are you allowing those things to pull on your energy so that you don't feel neutral, so that you feel worried or you feel obligated or you feel guilty or you feel shameful or whatever.
- 50:30SPEAKER_01: Cause usually there's a lot of things that have been like structurally programmed into our society to pull on your energy in those various ways so that you're not at that state of neutrality or above.
- 50:44SPEAKER_01: But you also have a choice, you have a choice not to.
- 50:48SPEAKER_01: It's just that we didn't know that.
- 50:50SPEAKER_03: Can you speak to competition?
- 50:54SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
- 50:55SPEAKER_01: Well, this is a program.
- 50:57SPEAKER_01: So again, this is something that is a program that is the foundation of it is in lack.
- 51:04SPEAKER_01: So it's like a program of lack and that there's not enough.
- 51:08SPEAKER_01: So we need to compete to have our needs met or to have what we need.
- 51:14SPEAKER_01: And that's not actually true.
- 51:17SPEAKER_01: It's another inversion.
- 51:19SPEAKER_01: So there's no, there's not actually any truth in that.
- 51:22SPEAKER_01: And what I'm seeing too is it's ancestrally within our cellular makeup, which is why people will experience it without maybe knowing a maybe it's from sibling stuff or whatever, but it's ingrained within us even deeper than just in this lifetime.
- 51:40SPEAKER_01: So that's really important to understand as you are shifting it.
- 51:45SPEAKER_01: But the more you can just notice that it's happening and shift it is so important because that is one of the biggest things, like the competition or comparison is one of those really big like programs that sucks your energy and gets you into this feeling of I'm not good enough or there's something wrong with me, or there's something I need to fix.
- 52:07SPEAKER_01: And that's just not, it's not gonna get you anywhere.
- 52:11SPEAKER_01: It's not gonna move you forward in any way.
- 52:13SPEAKER_01: So the quicker you can shift out of it, the better, because there's no benefit in being in that energy.
- 52:21SPEAKER_03: So when it comes to business, then when we shift out of competition, how does that change things for the future of business?
- 52:31SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 52:31SPEAKER_01: So it really allows you to tap into your channel and the creative energy that really wants to come through you.
- 52:41SPEAKER_01: It allows you to tap into it in a much more potent way because a lot of what gets in the way of people doing that is actually the energies that they feel from the people around them, whether it be competition or obligation or guilt or shame or just being attached to what other people think because they don't feel safe.
- 53:06SPEAKER_01: That is actually what blocks most people from accessing their full channel and their full capacity to share what it is that they're here to share.
- 53:16SPEAKER_01: And they're like, it like blocks the creative energy from like fully coming through in the way that it could.
- 53:24SPEAKER_01: So a lot of people have these like, it'll be coming through.
- 53:28SPEAKER_01: It's almost like it gets watered down, you could say, or it's almost like there are, how do you put it?
- 53:35SPEAKER_01: It's almost like if there was a window and there were cracks in the window, like the sun was still coming in, but you wouldn't just be able to fully see the sun.
- 53:45SPEAKER_01: You would see these cracks in the window, and they would be having these like little moments of darkness that you just wouldn't have access to the full sunlight.
- 53:56SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 53:56SPEAKER_03: I have a question about copy, writing copy, marketing copy, and I forget what words you used in the last episode, but I'd love for us to go deeper into that.
- 54:08SPEAKER_03: That is fascinating to me.
- 54:09SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
- 54:10SPEAKER_01: Frequency emanating content.
- 54:12SPEAKER_03: Yes.
- 54:12SPEAKER_01: So that's what I was shown is gonna be really important in the new paradigm, is being able to emanate your unique frequency through your content so people can feel your energy through what it is that you're saying.
- 54:30SPEAKER_01: And this is exactly what I'm talking about with the things that black people is a lot of people aren't allowing that full frequency to come through.
- 54:41SPEAKER_01: So that's why it's harder for people to feel that connection with them, is because they're not, they're just not allowing that full frequency to come through.
- 54:50SPEAKER_01: Oh, here's the other thing that came through.
- 54:53SPEAKER_01: This is really important.
- 54:55SPEAKER_01: The energy behind what you say, it can't be coming from a place of trying to get people to do something.
- 55:05SPEAKER_01: So there can't be an agenda.
- 55:07SPEAKER_01: And this is a very interesting thing because obviously, as a business owner, you want you want people to act, right?
- 55:16SPEAKER_01: Like that you want to inspire people to act, but that's just it.
- 55:20SPEAKER_01: You allow what you're saying to inspire people to act.
- 55:23SPEAKER_01: But if you're writing from a place where you're trying to get people to do something that can be felt, and that's actually gonna block your potency from coming through because there's like an agenda behind it and that can be felt.
- 55:39SPEAKER_01: And also, that's probably why a lot of people feel so burdened by writing content, is because they're even most likely unknowingly coming from that place of feeling like they need to write something that's going to get somebody to do something.
- 55:57SPEAKER_01: And that's not how you want to approach it because A, we can't control anybody, and B, that has a texture to it that doesn't feel good.
- 56:06SPEAKER_01: And also it allow it makes you like contort your energy into something that it's not so that your frequency and the potency of it can't come through in the way that it's meant to.
- 56:18SPEAKER_01: So you want to not have an agenda, even though what you're saying would be so powerful that it would inspire people to move, it's not coming from the place of trying to make something happen.
- 56:33SPEAKER_03: So, no coercion, manipulation, talking people into stuff, convincing.
- 56:41SPEAKER_03: It's interesting because I forget what his first name is, Chaldini.
- 56:45SPEAKER_03: He's a psychologist who wrote all about the psychology of persuasion.
- 56:50SPEAKER_03: And it very much is in the 3D paradigm of this tit for tat, right?
- 56:54SPEAKER_03: And what you're talking about here is complete, it's nuanced, and it is also a complete diversion from this old mechanism that was used to manipulate, to convince, to insinuate.
- 57:11SPEAKER_03: Do you remember early in, I don't know if you all remember this, but I remember early in the online movement, we had they called opt-ins ethical bribes.
- 57:20SPEAKER_03: It's an ethical bribe.
- 57:23SPEAKER_03: No, I did not know that.
- 57:25SPEAKER_01: You've been around a lot longer than me.
- 57:27SPEAKER_03: Yes, yes.
- 57:27SPEAKER_03: Well, yes, I have been around in this space for a long time.
- 57:31SPEAKER_03: And I just remember hearing that thinking, is it actually if you use the word bribe and then you put ethical in front of it, does that make the bribe ethical, really?
- 57:41SPEAKER_03: But when we look at, for example, sacred reciprocity, the sacred reciprocity is I have this thing and it is an invitation to enjoy this thing.
- 57:54SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 57:55SPEAKER_03: And so the reciprocity is in exchange for this thing, please send me your email address or whatever it is.
- 58:01SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 58:02SPEAKER_03: It's a different frequency.
- 58:04SPEAKER_03: Is that what you're referring to?
- 58:06SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 58:06SPEAKER_01: Yes, that's it.
- 58:08SPEAKER_01: And also it's about your unique perspective.
- 58:12SPEAKER_01: So this is something that's really important because most people are afraid to share fully their unique perspective because of all the stuff I said, like people disagreeing with them or that someone else has a different perspective or whatever it is.
- 58:31SPEAKER_01: But actually, your unique perspective is going to be the thing that allows people to align with you or agree with you or move based on what you're saying, is because you're like sharing this way of looking at things that no one else has, that people look at it and they're like, oh my gosh, that makes so much sense.
- 58:50SPEAKER_01: I never thought of it that way.
- 58:52SPEAKER_01: And you're like really inspiring people to move from that place where it's just like you're sharing this thing that's very unique to you that doesn't exist anywhere else other than within you.
- 59:04SPEAKER_01: And I think that's really important.
- 59:06SPEAKER_01: And I think people struggle because that's the very thing that like allows people to resonate with you.
- 59:13SPEAKER_01: But a lot of people struggle to share that.
- 59:16SPEAKER_01: And I did too.
- 59:17SPEAKER_01: Like I would always think of things and be like, oh, well, and especially as an empath or a channel, you can see things from all perspectives.
- 59:28SPEAKER_01: So a lot of times if you have this very unique perspective on something, you can then see the opposite perspective and you can see all these perspectives.
- 59:36SPEAKER_01: And it can be hard to take one because you're like, oh, well, all of these other perspectives exist.
- 59:43SPEAKER_01: But it doesn't really matter because you're only sharing this perspective to make this very unique point about whatever it is that you're saying that's going to show people through that perspective and that frequency of the uniqueness of that perspective, that would be that they would want to do something with you or whatever it is.
- 1:00:05SPEAKER_03: What I'm hearing you say as a headline is mastering the art of copy.
- 1:00:12SPEAKER_03: That's the focus.
- 1:00:14SPEAKER_01: It is, yeah, because that's so important because it's really the thing that people are going to how people are gonna know you.
- 1:00:24SPEAKER_01: Like and how people are gonna know who you are and what you're about and whether or not they resonate with you.
- 1:00:30SPEAKER_03: And that in itself is challenging.
- 1:00:32SPEAKER_03: I practiced writing copy for years and years, and I've had these experiences of writing one piece of content and selling out programs and or one piece of content and having major cash infusions.
- 1:00:46SPEAKER_03: And it's fascinating to watch that.
- 1:00:48SPEAKER_03: And I've had to really look at who am I being in those moments that I'm writing this copy.
- 1:00:53SPEAKER_03: I'm not emulating anybody.
- 1:00:55SPEAKER_03: I'm not, I suppose I would have an agenda which is to grow my business or to help more people or whatever, but it was always coming from a very clear place and an enthusiastic one, by the way.
- 1:01:07SPEAKER_01: Right, where you deeply believe what it is that you're talking about.
- 1:01:11SPEAKER_01: And then also the other thing that I keep seeing too is, and you also can't emulate yourself either.
- 1:01:17SPEAKER_01: So I think sometimes when when we find something that works and it works when we do it, then we think, oh, I'm just gonna keep doing this, and then that'll just keep working.
- 1:01:27SPEAKER_01: And that's not actually the case either.
- 1:01:29SPEAKER_01: Like we're not AI, we're not robots, we're not just going to be like, okay, here's the formula, and now I'm just gonna do this and it's gonna work.
- 1:01:38SPEAKER_01: No, it's that's not what is required.
- 1:01:41SPEAKER_01: What is required of us now is to channel what it is that wants to come through at a specific time and then be able to clearly articulate that in a grounded way at that particular time.
- 1:01:58SPEAKER_03: I think that's the biggest nugget for me is don't emulate yourself.
- 1:02:02SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think a lot of people do that.
- 1:02:04SPEAKER_01: I've done that too.
- 1:02:06SPEAKER_01: And I think that was like one of the biggest messages that I got last year was to not do that because I was doing that.
- 1:02:13SPEAKER_01: And also just as a newer business owner, it's like you think in those terms in a lot of ways, you know, until you learn that's actually not what it's about at all.
- 1:02:25SPEAKER_03: Anything else from Selena that she would like us to know about business in 2024 as spiritual business owners, channels, healers?
- 1:02:35SPEAKER_01: I think the only other thing I would say is to really be present at all times, like meaning, like just be operating from the present moment and what you're feeling in the present moment versus anything else versus reacting to the past.
- 1:02:52SPEAKER_01: For me, I get so much inspiration from the present moment of whatever it is, like whether I'm like with my kids or I'm in the shower or I'm looking out the window or whatever it is.
- 1:03:03SPEAKER_01: So, so that's one of the other things that I think is so important right now is to really as much as you can allow yourself to be in the present moment.
- 1:03:13SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
- 1:03:15SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
- 1:03:16SPEAKER_01: Oh, that was fun.
- 1:03:17SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 1:03:18SPEAKER_01: That was wonderful.
- 1:03:19SPEAKER_03: I can't wait to go back and listen.
- 1:03:21SPEAKER_01: I know, me too.
- 1:03:22SPEAKER_01: Okay, let's move over to you.
- 1:03:24SPEAKER_01: Are we ready?
- 1:03:26SPEAKER_01: It's funny.
- 1:03:26SPEAKER_01: I think the first thing that's really coming through for me to ask Marisol about is you, Robin, has always you've always been such a whiz at selling really high-ticket containers.
- 1:03:38SPEAKER_01: And I would love to know what you would say is like the energetics behind that or your thinking behind that, or anything that Marisol has to say around that.
- 1:03:50SPEAKER_03: It was interesting because from the beginning, when I was selling high-ticket, it just was of course.
- 1:03:59SPEAKER_03: And it has always been just of course.
- 1:04:02SPEAKER_03: I remember I studied somebody who was teaching high-ticket sales, and I think I listened to one of her training series, and I was like, oh, I can do this.
- 1:04:11SPEAKER_03: And so then I did it.
- 1:04:12SPEAKER_03: And so selling high ticket is very, we'll call it third chakra.
- 1:04:17SPEAKER_03: There is a tremendous amount of confidence, illumination that has to be present in order for you to hold the energy of confidently selling high ticket.
- 1:04:29SPEAKER_03: And when we talk about high ticket, we're not talking about just like$1,000 programs or something like that.
- 1:04:35SPEAKER_03: From the beginning, I was selling$3,000 programs,$5,000 programs,$10,000 programs, and they were coming in rapidly.
- 1:04:46SPEAKER_03: So the place where I think people get hung up on high ticket is that there is an internal lack of confidence or self-assurance is another word that I think is really important here to use, that should be natural.
- 1:05:02SPEAKER_03: Because when we're fully in our most actualized version of ourselves, we are naturally confident, we are naturally self-assured, we are naturally willful in how we are bringing about the things that we desire.
- 1:05:16SPEAKER_03: What got tangled in there for Robin early on was that then after she thought she had mastered high tickets, she resigned her position, her salaried position, and now she's on her own.
- 1:05:27SPEAKER_03: And then she had a bunch of trauma come up around being on her own, having to solely rely on herself for all of the income coming in and all of the things that can happen when somebody leaves a salaried position.
- 1:05:40SPEAKER_03: And so then that sense of emergency got tangled up with the natural, beautiful essence of confidence.
- 1:05:50SPEAKER_03: And so you can see how this would tangle then and kind of arrest the natural flow of being able to sell these premium programs, if you will.
- 1:05:59SPEAKER_03: Does that make sense?
- 1:06:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah, totally.
- 1:06:01SPEAKER_01: I think that is one of the biggest things is like the confidence piece too.
- 1:06:06SPEAKER_01: I think one of the things that I would see for a lot of people is if they did have a higher ticket, like private client come in or something, it was automatically this feeling of like they needed to do something for them or they owed them something or whatever.
- 1:06:20SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:06:20SPEAKER_01: So that I think that's a very common thing.
- 1:06:23SPEAKER_03: So one of the things that we have to take a look at are so many healers come out of public service.
- 1:06:30SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:06:30SPEAKER_03: You were a school counselor, I was a psychologist.
- 1:06:34SPEAKER_03: We got trained from the time we started to serve whoever's in front of you, regardless of their ability to pay.
- 1:06:40SPEAKER_03: And so when you are steeped in the public servant program, and then you step out of it and you have the audacity to charge three grand or five grand or whatever, however many thousand dollars you want to charge for something, there is that wobble that takes place because it there is really a who am I to do this?
- 1:06:59SPEAKER_03: Who am I to do this?
- 1:07:01SPEAKER_03: And then I remember early on with mine, I did a telesummit, which was a wonderful experience.
- 1:07:07SPEAKER_03: And I was selling high ticket, I think my program at the time was like three grand or something like that.
- 1:07:11SPEAKER_03: And I kept on getting all of these people coming in for discovery calls who literally required community mental health.
- 1:07:18SPEAKER_03: Wow.
- 1:07:19SPEAKER_03: So I had to look at where am I still operating from community mental health and how do I shift out of that, which is one of the reasons I tracked into corporate because I knew that with the corporate people, with corporate coaching, with executive coaching and things like that was just a completely different model of working with people to bring about transformation that didn't involve serving whoever's in front of you, regardless of their ability to pay.
- 1:07:47SPEAKER_03: Now, there are people who are gifted in that, and there's a place for that.
- 1:07:50SPEAKER_03: It just was not a place in my business as a for-profit organization.
- 1:07:55SPEAKER_03: So these are the energetic shifts that have to be made in order to bring about the transformation of being able to consistently sell high-ticket.
- 1:08:05SPEAKER_03: And then to do so not just on payment plans, but then to get the big cash infusions of the 20,000 or 50,000 or whatever that you desire coming in, because that's the game changer in people's businesses.
- 1:08:17SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 1:08:17SPEAKER_03: And to your point about having to do more, that is the thing.
- 1:08:21SPEAKER_03: If you have to work hard for your money, if it's$3,000 or$50,000, you're still in the slog of the old way of doing things.
- 1:08:29SPEAKER_03: You've still got that kind of community mental health.
- 1:08:31SPEAKER_03: I'm using that language, but you get my point, the public servant kind of energy attached to it.
- 1:08:37SPEAKER_03: So much of selling high ticket is an inner transformation.
- 1:08:42SPEAKER_03: Sure, there are skills to learn.
- 1:08:45SPEAKER_03: Sure, there are ways of talking about your program and sharing what you do without convincing.
- 1:08:51SPEAKER_03: Of course there are, but largely it is inner stuff that needs to shift in order to bring about the cash infusions that we're wanting to do with these high-ticket sales.
- 1:09:03SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
- 1:09:04SPEAKER_01: And I think it's just, it's again a paradigm shift for people to be comfortable with receiving that amount of money for Oh, yes.
- 1:09:13SPEAKER_03: Wealth consciousness is such a big piece of this.
- 1:09:15SPEAKER_03: So there's an attracting part of the wealth consciousness.
- 1:09:18SPEAKER_03: Who am I, what am I asking for?
- 1:09:20SPEAKER_03: Who am I attracting in?
- 1:09:21SPEAKER_03: Then there's receiving.
- 1:09:23SPEAKER_03: And that that receiving part, as you know, can be treating money like a hot potato.
- 1:09:28SPEAKER_03: Shit, I just got this in, and now I had a big thing that all the money had to go back out again.
- 1:09:34SPEAKER_03: And for me, for early in my career, a lot of it was about inhaling, bringing money in, and then exhaling it, and it would go out again to pay my bills, to pay my whatever it was that I was focusing on.
- 1:09:46SPEAKER_03: And I had so much confidence in my ability to just keep selling that I never learned the until much later, the later stages of wealth consciousness, that holding and being able to hold larger and larger sums of money is actually a skill that's required for mastery as well.
- 1:10:05SPEAKER_01: What for you was the shift when you're able to make that shift into holding?
- 1:10:12SPEAKER_03: For me, it was about safety.
- 1:10:14SPEAKER_03: What I have found is that when we receive large sums of money, we experience trauma response.
- 1:10:20SPEAKER_03: It is not safe to hold this.
- 1:10:22SPEAKER_03: I have to get it off my hands as soon as possible.
- 1:10:24SPEAKER_03: It may not even be our trauma response.
- 1:10:26SPEAKER_03: It may be familial, genetic, generational.
- 1:10:28SPEAKER_03: We don't, we can explore that.
- 1:10:31SPEAKER_03: But when we look at trauma response to cash infusions, you can look at lottery winners who went have this windfall and then it goes out as quickly as it came in.
- 1:10:40SPEAKER_03: I couldn't hold on to it.
- 1:10:41SPEAKER_03: Or if we look at NBA basketball players who came from nothing and now suddenly have these big paychecks and they go out the window, right?
- 1:10:50SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 1:10:50SPEAKER_03: So, and there are a lot of layers to that as well in professional sports.
- 1:10:55SPEAKER_03: But when it comes to spiritual entrepreneurs, when we're holding a lot of money, we have to look at what does that mean about me as a person?
- 1:11:02SPEAKER_03: Because we also come from a paradigm of I have to be, if I'm going to do something to heal somebody, I can't charge for it.
- 1:11:08SPEAKER_03: I just have to do it out of the goodness of my heart.
- 1:11:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:11:11SPEAKER_03: And that's and that takes us out of the sacred exchange or the sacred reciprocity.
- 1:11:15SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:11:16SPEAKER_01: So I guess my next question would be as far as what Marisol can see, what do you feel is going to be the biggest shift energetic-wise that we're going to see this year?
- 1:11:31SPEAKER_03: When the light workers and the light leaders decide to calibrate to their light, regardless of anybody else's opinion, attitude, belief, whatever, when they are willing to do that for themselves.
- 1:11:48SPEAKER_03: And I just use the word will, which is that third chakra.
- 1:11:52SPEAKER_03: Your will is your third chakra.
- 1:11:54SPEAKER_03: There's this Laurence Scovel Shin wrote The Game of Life and How to Play It.
- 1:11:57SPEAKER_03: And one of the things that she had said early on was, your word is your wand.
- 1:12:02SPEAKER_03: And I'm coming to believe and knowing that it's not your word, it's actually your will is your wand.
- 1:12:08SPEAKER_03: Your will, your personal will be vital for this work.
- 1:12:13SPEAKER_03: And so, as Soleil, as the sun, that third energy center is the vital life force that is required for this.
- 1:12:21SPEAKER_03: So when the sun comes online, when Soleil comes online in you, and you and all of us, that is going to turn the tide and allow the, we'll just talk in business, the cash infusions allow the magnitude of the business to be able to do what it came here to do, which is to elevate consciousness, which is to ascend, fill in the blank there.
- 1:12:48SPEAKER_03: So this is all I'm being drawn to.
- 1:12:52SPEAKER_03: I have a giant poster-sized picture of Giorgio O'Keefe's sunflower right over, like right over here.
- 1:12:59SPEAKER_03: And so I'm being drawn to that right now because that's all it's all sunshine, it's all third chakra.
- 1:13:05SPEAKER_03: I don't want to use the word empowerment because this is not, this would insinuate that you don't have power to begin with, but it is the activation of the personal power that is going to be the essential game changer.
- 1:13:17SPEAKER_03: And when it's actually activated, then we actually have our kidneys come online in a fuller way as well.
- 1:13:24SPEAKER_03: The kidneys provide our life force as well.
- 1:13:26SPEAKER_03: So there's a mechanism that's happening in the physical body that allows more light to be held, that allows more power to be held and ultimately externally allows more money to be held in the business.
- 1:13:37SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and it's interesting because I'm bringing it back to what we were talking about before with you being the one leading the energy instead of responding to the universe.
- 1:13:47SPEAKER_01: And that's the same thing as like allowing your light to shine essentially, regardless of what's going on around you.
- 1:13:54SPEAKER_03: If you think about how many people go out and watch the sunrise in the morning or watch the sunset at night, who is leading the energy there?
- 1:14:00SPEAKER_03: The sun is.
- 1:14:11SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 1:14:12SPEAKER_03: Or the moon, whatever light body you choose to, or the fire, whatever light body that is.
- 1:14:18SPEAKER_03: And it's it's really that's the essential nature of what's happening here internally, is the realignment with the core energy or the core essence of what is meant to come through you.
- 1:14:30SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 1:14:31SPEAKER_01: And that's what I keep seeing too.
- 1:14:33SPEAKER_01: And really having this restoration of who we really are and how we utilize our energy and power, I think that is huge.
- 1:14:46SPEAKER_03: It's like really yes, and and what that means then is that you have to become very comfortable with being powerful.
- 1:14:51SPEAKER_03: And this is the thing that we have been taught to be most afraid of is our power.
- 1:14:55SPEAKER_03: And so, therefore, because we've been taught for generations to be afraid of our power, it would stand to reason that we're going to have some work to do around making friends with our power.
- 1:15:05SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
- 1:15:07SPEAKER_01: And being okay with other people's reaction to our power.
- 1:15:12SPEAKER_03: Yes.
- 1:15:12SPEAKER_03: It's very fascinating how other people respond when you're in power.
- 1:15:16SPEAKER_03: I'm remembering when I was in sixth grade, it was one of my best years in school in sixth grade.
- 1:15:22SPEAKER_03: I got all A's and I had friends, and it was just, I was very vibrant.
- 1:15:26SPEAKER_03: And I remember I had invited, it was the end of the school year, and I had invited my class over to my house for a end of the year party, and everybody wanted to come.
- 1:15:34SPEAKER_03: It was just so amazing to me that would even happen because I was not the coolest kid in school, but for some reason I was leading the energy.
- 1:15:42SPEAKER_03: And I remember, I even remember remember his name, Pat said, Who does she think she is?
- 1:15:47SPEAKER_03: She thinks she's so hot.
- 1:15:50SPEAKER_03: And I thought to myself, well, I'm just being me.
- 1:15:53SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 1:15:53SPEAKER_03: Here's the other thing that I will say is that there is, when you are in your essence, there is no self-consciousness.
- 1:16:02SPEAKER_03: So if you, whether you are writing copy or you're having sales conversations to sell your premium offers, whatever it is, if you have any degree of self-consciousness, meaning that if you feel like somebody else is watching you or wondering what somebody else is going to think about you, these are the things that are going to pull you out of your center.
- 1:16:21SPEAKER_03: So then the vitality that you have leaks out and you're not fully present to your point, losing self-consciousness, keeping the blinders on, staying in your lane, no matter what, these are the practices that are going to support you in coming into your highest point of ascension, coming into the most expansive version of your business.
- 1:16:46SPEAKER_03: Yes.
- 1:16:47SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's really good.
- 1:16:48SPEAKER_03: Oh, here, this is just came through too.
- 1:16:50SPEAKER_03: This just occurred to me that the self-consciousness, whether it's a coach looking at you or looking for somebody's approval, what will my coach think?
- 1:16:57SPEAKER_03: What will my parent think?
- 1:16:59SPEAKER_03: If I have a parent who's an expert in a field and I'm in any sort of competition, unconscious competition with my parent for attention or to be as good as or whatever, anything like that, anything that is remotely creating self-consciousness for you is something that has to be neutralized.
- 1:17:18SPEAKER_01: I completely agree with that.
- 1:17:20SPEAKER_01: And that's one of those things that blocks your full poetry and your full channel from coming through.
- 1:17:28SPEAKER_01: And I've noticed that more and more.
- 1:17:30SPEAKER_01: And I think that is very true.
- 1:17:32SPEAKER_01: And I think, how can people be even more aware of that?
- 1:17:36SPEAKER_01: Because I know for me, I as I look back on my own journey with my business, like when I look back on teaching programs a couple of years ago, or even last year, and even sometimes now, but it's very not as much now at all.
- 1:17:50SPEAKER_01: But when I look back on myself, I was very self-conscious, but I didn't even realize I was.
- 1:17:57SPEAKER_01: Like I didn't realize, like gradually I started to realize more that it was happening and shifting it.
- 1:18:03SPEAKER_01: But in the beginning, it was just such a natural way of being for me because I had lived that way my whole life that I didn't even realize it.
- 1:18:11SPEAKER_01: So, like, how do we become more aware of that and call ourselves forward to have the awareness and to shift it?
- 1:18:20SPEAKER_03: So we have to not mistake self-consciousness for self-awareness.
- 1:18:25SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 1:18:26SPEAKER_03: You can be simultaneously self-aware and also be in flow, but why would you want to be when you're in flow?
- 1:18:33SPEAKER_03: You just lose track of time, you lose track of everything except the thing that you're doing because you are truly in flow.
- 1:18:39SPEAKER_03: So you're not worried about what's going on out there when you are in flow, because flow is a consciousness state where creativity literally flows through your system.
- 1:18:48SPEAKER_03: That is your open channel.
- 1:18:50SPEAKER_03: So there are a couple of things.
- 1:18:53SPEAKER_03: I'll tell this story.
- 1:18:54SPEAKER_03: When I was 12, I started playing basketball.
- 1:18:56SPEAKER_03: Everybody thought I ought to because I was very tall and I was terrible.
- 1:19:00SPEAKER_03: I was so bad because all the kids had started before me.
- 1:19:03SPEAKER_03: I had never played before.
- 1:19:04SPEAKER_03: So I had skills that I had to learn.
- 1:19:06SPEAKER_03: And I became very self-conscious about it because I knew I didn't, I knew what I didn't know.
- 1:19:11SPEAKER_03: And I knew that I wasn't good.
- 1:19:12SPEAKER_03: And so I was constantly watching to make sense of things.
- 1:19:16SPEAKER_03: I remember one time I my team was on offense, but I was playing defense, making sense that, well, if I defended my defender, then that took her out of the game.
- 1:19:23SPEAKER_03: So then other people could maybe do something with the ball.
- 1:19:27SPEAKER_03: Or you could look at it like remembering when you were learning how to drive or something like that, anything where you had to be conscious of every single movement, every single step in the process.
- 1:19:37SPEAKER_03: And I think that is what happens with us in our marketing efforts and our writing copy and so on, when we have this self-consciousness, in part it is a learning curve.
- 1:19:47SPEAKER_03: We have to learn how to write.
- 1:19:49SPEAKER_03: So, for example, if you have ever in a poetry class been asked to write a poem in a haiku forum.
- 1:19:57SPEAKER_03: Well, when you know the haiku forum, which is five syllables, seven syllables, and then five more syllables, it makes the whole process a little bit easier.
- 1:20:07SPEAKER_03: So by creating scaffolding for ourselves around the copy that we write, around our sales conversations and things like that, then we have the opportunity to move from self-consciousness into self-awareness, where I can be aware of myself, moving through, but it's not taking me out of the flow of it.
- 1:20:29SPEAKER_03: When you are in flow, you are going to be self-aware, but you are also going to be absorbed and engaged in whatever activity you are doing.
- 1:20:37SPEAKER_03: That is, in essence, what this year is about in terms of writing copy that converts, or in terms of having important sales conversations that create massive inflows of money into your bank accounts, moving from self-consciousness into self-awareness.
- 1:20:55SPEAKER_01: What's occurring to me too, as you're talking, is it's almost like self-consciousness is like the lower frequency of self-awareness.
- 1:21:05SPEAKER_01: Because I know for me, I know I have a very high level of self-awareness, but I think it started as being incredibly self-conscious, which then, like as you evolve that, it just can alchemize into a very high level of self-awareness.
- 1:21:25SPEAKER_03: Yes.
- 1:21:25SPEAKER_03: And in fact, I know you don't like to talk about the brain all that as much as I do anyway.
- 1:21:30SPEAKER_03: But as it turns out, that on the neo-personality profile, self-consciousness is one of the facets that's in neuroticism.
- 1:21:36SPEAKER_03: And neuroticism is a, is in effect all based in the brain.
- 1:21:41SPEAKER_03: So the self-consciousness, it's there's a little, in fact, I would say that there probably is a little, we'll call it a program, but it might be like even a microchip that disrupts the self-awareness, disrupts the flow, and isn't that convenient?
- 1:21:58SPEAKER_03: So maybe we just perhaps it's as simple as dissolving the chip.
- 1:22:03SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:22:04SPEAKER_01: So it really goes back to like not being concerned with how other people are perceiving you, because that's really what self-consciousness is, is the worry of how other people are perceiving you or what they're gonna think or how they're gonna react to you.
- 1:22:21SPEAKER_03: Oh, yes.
- 1:22:22SPEAKER_03: And so this is interesting because what ends up happening when you're overly self-conscious and you're overly aware of what everybody else is thinking and overly sensitive to that, and you know that you're supposed to be self-confident, that you're supposed to be self-aware, that you're supposed to be shining your brightest light.
- 1:22:40SPEAKER_03: What ends up happening is that there's a distortion in the confidence and it comes off as bravado.
- 1:22:45SPEAKER_03: It's like you're playacting confidence rather than embodying confidence.
- 1:22:50SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 1:22:51SPEAKER_03: So do you see how this all is coming back to the confidence piece?
- 1:22:56SPEAKER_03: The third chakra, my hands keep going to my belly.
- 1:22:59SPEAKER_03: This activation center is so important this year.
- 1:23:03SPEAKER_03: It is one of the most critical of all of the activations, is this region of the body.
- 1:23:09SPEAKER_01: No, that makes so much sense.
- 1:23:11SPEAKER_01: And I can feel it.
- 1:23:13SPEAKER_01: And it's interesting too, because I struggle with heartburn, which always is right there in that area.
- 1:23:21SPEAKER_01: And I've been finding it really interesting over the last few months when I'm in these states of you could call it flow or being super present, or also just not being at odds with myself, just being very much in just being.
- 1:23:38SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just being.
- 1:23:39SPEAKER_01: That's when I don't seem to have heartburn, is during those times.
- 1:23:44SPEAKER_03: So it's oh yes, this is wonderful for you actually, because it's it's a built-in red flag.
- 1:23:51SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:23:52SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 1:23:52SPEAKER_03: Oh, I'm just not in my full the fullness of who I am.
- 1:23:57SPEAKER_03: My red flag is not heartburn, but mine is when I start feeling, I'm going to use this word because it's what comes into my head.
- 1:24:04SPEAKER_03: When I feel fat, and I know that I am not fat, and everyone is meant to have adipose tissue on our bodies, so that is not it.
- 1:24:11SPEAKER_03: But when I feel fat, that is a signal to me that I am not fully in my body.
- 1:24:17SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I totally get that.
- 1:24:19SPEAKER_01: And it's interesting too that we've been so programmed around our bodies and being fat and self-conscious and all of that stuff.
- 1:24:28SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 1:24:29SPEAKER_03: So it's very interesting.
- 1:24:30SPEAKER_03: This is the year that we wipe self-consciousness off the map.
- 1:24:34SPEAKER_03: I love that.
- 1:24:35SPEAKER_03: I do too, very well, actually.
- 1:24:38SPEAKER_03: And that means even for the channels, because there are those of us who have been channeling for a while, but there's always that question mark about what will people think of me?
- 1:24:47SPEAKER_03: Or what if I actually just speak from allow my channel to come in and speak?
- 1:24:52SPEAKER_03: What will people think of me?
- 1:24:53SPEAKER_03: And so on.
- 1:24:54SPEAKER_03: And so even that has got to be, I'll say, eradicated because there's no place for it.
- 1:25:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:25:00SPEAKER_01: So um, you know, to kind of like bring this all full circle, what would you say about preparing the channel?
- 1:25:09SPEAKER_01: Because I know you're gonna be teaching that, but also because I know so many people and so many people that are coming into my world and your world, like they know that they are a channel, but it's just about refining it.
- 1:25:21SPEAKER_01: Like I literally just had a call with one of my clients who's in the sacred six-figure initiation, which is about channeling for your business.
- 1:25:28SPEAKER_01: And she had this crazy experience over the holiday where her channel opened and this course came through, and all of these teachings came through.
- 1:25:38SPEAKER_01: And now she's just, whoa, what do I do with this kind of a thing?
- 1:25:41SPEAKER_01: So, what would you say to somebody who like you they know they're on the precipice of channeling or they just started channeling?
- 1:25:48SPEAKER_01: Like, how do we either prepare the channel or continue to cultivate it and do what we need to do as the info comes through?
- 1:25:58SPEAKER_03: So, preparing the channel is much if you were to prepare your body to become pregnant or prepare your body for a marathon or to prepare whatever, what any kind of preparation requires attention to certain details.
- 1:26:13SPEAKER_03: And so, of course, preparing your physical body for channeling is multifaceted and it involves food and nutrition, it involves hydration, water, sleep, sunlight, all of the things that we already know we were meant to be doing to do them.
- 1:26:29SPEAKER_03: Here's the thing about becoming the channel for me was that I studied channels for years, literally years.
- 1:26:38SPEAKER_03: I was fascinated by channels, and I spent an entire, were you same?
- 1:26:43SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, yeah.
- 1:26:44SPEAKER_03: So I remember being introduced to Abraham Hicks, probably around the same time you were, because we came online at the same time.
- 1:26:51SPEAKER_03: So being fascinated by it and at once waiting for somebody to tell me that it would be okay for me to be a channel because that is what I am.
- 1:27:00SPEAKER_03: It was as though I was waiting for permission.
- 1:27:02SPEAKER_03: And in fact, I had I spent an entire session of my very high-level coaching with Jennifer Longmore to talk about somebody else who said that she was channeling and I didn't believe her.
- 1:27:14SPEAKER_03: And I was so put off by it, and I just couldn't.
- 1:27:17SPEAKER_03: Jennifer finally said, You know, you realize you spent an entire hour talking about somebody else, right?
- 1:27:24SPEAKER_03: But I was so upset by it at the time.
- 1:27:26SPEAKER_03: And finally, where I landed, thanks to that conversation, was when Jennifer said, It's time for you to finally admit that you are a channel.
- 1:27:34SPEAKER_03: And I felt such relief from that, but I had to understand what that meant.
- 1:27:38SPEAKER_03: And so we have to understand what it means to be a channel.
- 1:27:41SPEAKER_03: And then we don't need external permission to say that we are one, but there is something about confirming your, I'll call them characteristics or traits that would indicate that you have the capacity to channel, that you're not just making it up in your head.
- 1:27:55SPEAKER_03: And to go along with that then and preparing the channel is learning to trust yourself.
- 1:28:00SPEAKER_03: Learning to trust yourself and learning to trust that what comes through you is accurate and true.
- 1:28:04SPEAKER_03: The way that can happen is when you're actually doing the things for your body that allow things to come through that are accurate and true versus being muddied by the nonsense that's going on in the world or overwhelmed by other people's thoughts, opinions, attitudes, and so on.
- 1:28:21SPEAKER_03: So there's a lot that goes into it.
- 1:28:23SPEAKER_03: And I'm eager to be able to share that with people on preparing the channel, which is going to be my first.
- 1:28:29SPEAKER_03: It's a little bit of an experiment, isn't it?
- 1:28:32SPEAKER_03: Because I'm going to be doing it on Voxer as a community and I've never done that before, but I'm eager to have that experience.
- 1:28:38SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, I love that.
- 1:28:40SPEAKER_01: I love doing things on Voxer and I love doing things on audio.
- 1:28:44SPEAKER_01: It's just very enjoyable.
- 1:28:46SPEAKER_01: And I also enjoy because as a channel, a lot of times things just come through at these random times.
- 1:28:53SPEAKER_01: And it's so much better to be able to share them in real time versus having to wait till next week when you have your call.
- 1:29:02SPEAKER_01: So much better.
- 1:29:03SPEAKER_03: And it also is reflecting how we're changing, right?
- 1:29:07SPEAKER_03: As people, as we are on this ascension journey, we are wanting things asynchronistically.
- 1:29:13SPEAKER_03: And in fact, it's funny with Boxer, I just received a message from a colleague and she was sharing something that was very emotional, and she let me know it was going to be very emotional.
- 1:29:23SPEAKER_03: But exactly at the time when she was delivering this information that was emotional, she said, Oh, I am becoming emotional.
- 1:29:31SPEAKER_03: And I said, and I was becoming emotional at the same time.
- 1:29:34SPEAKER_03: So even though it was asynchronistic, it was still happening simultaneously.
- 1:29:38SPEAKER_03: It was fascinating how that works.
- 1:29:40SPEAKER_03: And I think that takes us out of the TikTok timeline.
- 1:29:43SPEAKER_03: And I don't mean that the app, like literally the clock timeline, and puts us into real time, which is timelessness.
- 1:29:50SPEAKER_01: Yes, I love that.
- 1:29:53SPEAKER_01: So is there anything else that Marisol would like to share that we would need to know or anything else that's important right now?
- 1:30:02SPEAKER_03: So she keeps on drawing my eyes.
- 1:30:05SPEAKER_03: I have these crystalline patches that I wear.
- 1:30:09SPEAKER_03: And um, I've used them for years.
- 1:30:12SPEAKER_03: But one of the things that she has had me do recently is program them because they're crystals, they can be programmed.
- 1:30:17SPEAKER_03: And so whether you're using patches on your body to program you to a certain frequency, program meaning just remind your body that you're operating on that frequency, or if you're using actual big physical crystals, like I've got my rose quartz here that I've been holding the whole time.
- 1:30:32SPEAKER_03: These allies of ours continue to be to play a role in the ascension process and in the, I'm gonna say pursuit of self-confidence, of really truly trusting your channel, trusting yourself, being confident in your message.
- 1:30:48SPEAKER_03: The crystals are here to help us.
- 1:30:50SPEAKER_03: They are here to support us.
- 1:30:52SPEAKER_03: And this is something that I don't want us to overlook as we move forward.
- 1:30:56SPEAKER_03: The crystals have also been hijacked in terms of what do we use in our computers and in our smartphones and in our smartwatches, and all of those things are also crystals.
- 1:31:05SPEAKER_03: And they've been programmed in a way that is counter to what they were intended, not by any fault of their own.
- 1:31:12SPEAKER_03: It's not the crystals that are the problem, of course.
- 1:31:15SPEAKER_03: So we just want to be able to use this technology more and more so that we have access to the proper frequencies that are available to us that they will actually help us amplify those frequencies to keep our channels pure and clear as well.
- 1:31:31SPEAKER_01: I love that.
- 1:31:32SPEAKER_01: It's making me think of you know how if you have a queen or a king's crown is like gold and then it like has stuff that sticks up with different like gems and stuff in it.
- 1:31:43SPEAKER_01: Well, back in whenever the kings and queens were seen as the ones that were divine, like they were connected to God and they were able to speak to God.
- 1:31:53SPEAKER_01: And it was actually through the gold and the crystals that were like forming an antenna that they were able to communicate with the divine.
- 1:32:03SPEAKER_01: So the crystals are actually a technology.
- 1:32:06SPEAKER_01: And also like why we've gold plated them, where why Matt has gold plated them with mind goods is because that amplifies the energy.
- 1:32:16SPEAKER_01: That is really important for people to understand that these are like a technology that we can use to assist us, you know.
- 1:32:24SPEAKER_01: And like I have my my sword here, that my selenite sword, that I can cut down any thoughts or ideas or or beliefs that are coming that are not aligned with my highest timeline and who I want to be.
- 1:32:38SPEAKER_01: I just cut it down and it's a very helpful tool.
- 1:32:41SPEAKER_01: So I love that.
- 1:32:42SPEAKER_01: And I think that's really important for people to understand that you can use the assistance of these crystals.
- 1:32:50SPEAKER_03: Yes, because to your point about everything needs to be very practical and grounded.
- 1:32:54SPEAKER_03: Yes.
- 1:32:55SPEAKER_03: There's nothing more grounded than a crystal.
- 1:32:57SPEAKER_03: That is true.
- 1:32:58SPEAKER_03: That's and so we whether, oh, here.
- 1:33:00SPEAKER_03: Oh, this is interesting.
- 1:33:01SPEAKER_03: I would be curious that in terms of what Selena would have to say about this.
- 1:33:06SPEAKER_03: The use of crystals to, I'm sending a telepathic message because I don't know how it comes through.
- 1:33:12SPEAKER_03: The use of crystals to, I'm gonna say, codify your programs.
- 1:33:17SPEAKER_03: In other words, to realize the programs, to bring them fully in.
- 1:33:22SPEAKER_03: Does this make sense?
- 1:33:22SPEAKER_03: I'm not saying it properly.
- 1:33:24SPEAKER_03: What does Selena say about that?
- 1:33:26SPEAKER_01: To, well, it's also like to reprogram, but it's also like to bring your full, oh, it's like the restoration of like your original coding, the and the original templates, like the crystals can help to solidify that into your into your system.
- 1:33:45SPEAKER_01: And then also the other thing I was seeing as you were talking to is like the crystals can also help to draw out the darkness too.
- 1:33:53SPEAKER_01: So anywhere where there's lower frequency energy in your field, the crystals can help to draw that out of your field so that you can hold more light.
- 1:34:01SPEAKER_01: I love crystals.
- 1:34:02SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:34:05SPEAKER_01: So thank you.
- 1:34:06SPEAKER_01: Thank you, Marisol, for sharing all of that.
- 1:34:09SPEAKER_01: And yeah, we'll share with everyone where they can find you.
- 1:34:12SPEAKER_01: But is there anything else you want to share?
- 1:34:14SPEAKER_01: I know you have preparing the channel, which is super exciting.
- 1:34:18SPEAKER_01: And we'll share, I know you'll share it too, but we'll share the information about that.
- 1:34:22SPEAKER_03: And everybody's like, how is preparing the channel related to high-ticket sales?
- 1:34:26SPEAKER_03: Well, we have to know how to channel wealth consciousness, don't we?
- 1:34:30SPEAKER_03: Because so much of high-ticket sales is about being able to attract, receive, and hold, especially financial prosperity.
- 1:34:37SPEAKER_03: So this is all preparing the channel for wealth consciousness and also to hold your highest level of highest, most actualized self.
- 1:34:47SPEAKER_03: But when it comes to high-ticket sales, this is a key component to being able to regularly make the high-ticket sales.
- 1:34:55SPEAKER_03: So that is the if I were to build a bridge, that would be the bridge that I would want to build before we see goodbye.
- 1:35:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that makes perfect sense.
- 1:35:02SPEAKER_01: I love that.
- 1:35:03SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
- 1:35:04SPEAKER_01: You're welcome.
- 1:35:05SPEAKER_01: Well, thank you so much for being here.
- 1:35:08SPEAKER_01: And I know everyone's gonna love it.
- 1:35:10SPEAKER_01: Same.
- 1:35:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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