Latest / Jess Ask / Reevaluating Mental Health | with Desiree Danielle | EP57
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- 0:07Yo, it's your girl Jessica and Smith, and you already know that you've
- 0:10entered the safe space for influencers to decompress, have fun and just ask God
- 0:17for another Do you already know what it is? And then you know it's
- 0:20about to get real. To be sure to show your girl the love and
- 0:25like, come in and subscribe God for another day. Hey, hey,
- 0:32I know we could be another way to sell it. We got to sell
- 0:39it because it's solid, solid, solid, solid, silad you probably do
- 0:45say solid like that. He's so fine this somebody cute, somebody for sign.
- 0:59I had to something every now and then. I like to put clothes
- 1:00on because baby, you look like the going up eating today and we both
- 1:04wear dresses. But mind the little mine the same. You gotta have bike
- 1:10out, bike out and everything. I was like, okay, yes,
- 1:15I had to let myself know that I still I still got it that yeah,
- 1:19absolutely, Yeah. You know I've been, you know, really trying
- 1:23to tap into this. Uh. I don't want to call like, you
- 1:26know, you're like soft girl era not necessarily like soft girls. I recognize
- 1:32I've had I have a few different distinct styles and I don't tap into the
- 1:38the feminine one that often, like my majority of my style is more like
- 1:42androgeness, so you know, like blazers. Before I asked you what you
- 1:46just said, let me tell the folks. Oh yeah, yeah, we
- 1:52already we just already started talking. Obviously you see that it's just just uh,
- 1:56Justica and deserrated day and you have into it the little yep. You
- 2:00have entered the safe face for influences to decompress, have fun and just as
- 2:06it's your girl, Jessica Smith, and I'm super excited for you to be
- 2:09here. I'm super excited for my girl desiree to be on this side of
- 2:15the camera, on the couch. So I gotta, I gotta let y'all
- 2:20see what I think. This is my I've reached my max on been on
- 2:24the side of the camera. Because you remember I said two times that was
- 2:28last year, that was last year, that was last year coming into this
- 2:31year, that was last year. And then we said seasons. We don't
- 2:36even have seasons anymore. I promise you, you want to go back.
- 2:40You want to go back. Now you just interrupted me and I praise you.
- 2:44Which is your names? Now? Are you ready? Okay? I
- 2:49told the people to take a Deep Bertha, Deep Bertha, what's up you
- 3:01guys. Welcome in, y'all. I don't know what I'm gonna do with
- 3:06this girl because she is. She is hilarious listening that listen, God thought
- 3:12about both of us. I'm getting a little comfortable with this microphone, justicu.
- 3:15Oh, not a little comfortable, just a little bit, not a
- 3:20little comfed, not a little bit. You a little colf, just a
- 3:23little bit. You know. The Lord really been trying to help you girl
- 3:25out. You know what I'm saying now, you've been just in his own
- 3:30because God know his children. He showed you you know what I'm saying.
- 3:32He know you know what you need and things of that nature. He just
- 3:36really just been in these last few weeks just trying to reaffirm my voice.
- 3:40Mm hmmm, because you're using me voicely, you know. I was thinking
- 3:45about that. But regarding you though, like just how you said something the
- 3:51other day. I think it was a private conversation and you were just like
- 3:57me. We help each other out in the areas that we lack in.
- 4:00So it's like it's you thought you were just helping me with the podcast,
- 4:08and really it and pulled you into a place where I de mandaged your voice
- 4:13to be heard something like that. Yeah, I mean, and it's like,
- 4:15I'm not trying to take creative of your voice, but I am saying
- 4:19that I needed you and you needed me simultaneously. And I think there's something
- 4:26special when you find somebody that the need the needs are mutual, because it
- 4:30does it's not one sided. It's not one sided when I when I got
- 4:34to figure out what you need me for and I feel like I'm pulling you
- 4:39too much, I'm not gonna pull on you and vice versus. I'm like
- 4:43it might be feeling, it might feel like you used me, But then
- 4:45you gotta know when it's time for an assignment and when you go in,
- 4:49go into that knowing that it better protects you. And I'm glad we're talking
- 4:54about this kind of kind of segue into you know Mental Health series, the
- 4:58series you know Mental Help, How like y'all gotta let us know how y'all
- 5:01been enjoined this series? Man, because the recordings and the post and pre
- 5:11and post records or before and after we recorded, the conversations really got real
- 5:17like and I'm hoping my hope, delaray is that people, well we as
- 5:23a community are taking this, taking these conversations and extending them over to our
- 5:28communities, extending them over to you know, sitting on the couch talking your
- 5:31homegirl and having the blanket on, got your sexy dress on. You know
- 5:34what I'm saying and saying hey, you know, because how are you?
- 5:38It's just not really how are you? It's like where are you? Mentally?
- 5:41You know what I'm saying, What are you going through? What are
- 5:43you dealing with? What is on your mind? And even when I think
- 5:46about that statement this to a whole period, just help me what's on your
- 5:49mind? Like literally, if you think about that here, like if you
- 5:54look at my hand, no, if you look at my hand like this
- 5:58right, yeah, And as I say, what's on your mind? This
- 6:02is my mind? What's on it? Right? So literally I'm trying to
- 6:08put c peak the like really dissect what is blocking your mind to be free?
- 6:15Right? And like when we think about that, that's a weighty thing
- 6:18because it's like, of course I can't see my brain. Of course I
- 6:21can. Sometimes I don't have language for what I'm thinking about. That's that's
- 6:26interesting. I don't have language for what I'm thinking about. I don't have
- 6:29language for what I'm feeling at the moment, but I know it's weight there
- 6:32for sure. I know it's weight there. And this is this has been
- 6:35for me an interesting series because it has allowed me to reevaluate not my only
- 6:46myself, but even how I've shown up in my atmospheres with the status of
- 6:57my mental health. What about you? You know, I love being on
- 7:02the other side. Thank you. Sorry, it's okay, somebody. I'm
- 7:10propably saying right now that by next year we'll have somebody doing that and you'll
- 7:15be comfortably on the couch, you know, because you know, I get
- 7:17to get to come get the talking, you know. You know sometimes you
- 7:24only forget to switch when it's supposed to switch on you what it is?
- 7:28Yeah, okay, okay, and working on it. But it's been good
- 7:31because you know, one of the things I love about being in spaces is
- 7:36I get to hear the conversations and I may not say some say a lot
- 7:41sometimes because I'm just digesting and you know, just reflecting and kind of like
- 7:45you said, like how am I showing up, you know, in the
- 7:47different areas in my life? And how how am I showing up for you
- 7:51know, the people in my life, and am I showing up to my
- 7:55best ability, like to my to my best in my best self, you
- 7:59know. And if I'm not, why, Like what you said, what's
- 8:03on your mind? Like what's weighing you down? Like this? This?
- 8:05Uh? I prayed at church for the first time, and I was nervous
- 8:13and stuff like that, but I always go in. I was like,
- 8:15okay, hold the spirit was you know, what's up? What you got
- 8:16to say? And it was like I kept seeing like people walking around with
- 8:20like bricks Like you remember in grade school you have your your backpack and you
- 8:26got like multiple books and things and it's heavy, you know. I just
- 8:28kept seeing people walking around out it's heavy weight. And and so I was
- 8:33like, dang, if I'm honest, like there are some areas in my
- 8:35life that has some weight too that I'm having to learn how to release it.
- 8:41And a lot of that is taking up a lot of your minimals,
- 8:43your menials, my mental space. I think that we we have a hard
- 8:54time with the release part of things, yeah, because we don't know ourselves
- 9:05without the thing that needs to be released? Does that make sense what I
- 9:09just said? And it's like we have coming to identity or agreement to the
- 9:18point where we wanted we wanted to stop, but we're more afraid of not
- 9:28knowing what to do when it does. Like I'm in this space. I've
- 9:35been saying saying this for a minute. I knew God was gonna start like
- 9:37transitioning eventually into you know, full time entrepreneurship. And I've always said,
- 9:43the current job that I have or the current company that I'm with is,
- 9:46you know, it's my last company I'm working for, which is a beautiful
- 9:50company, Like I'm gonna stay there as long as long as God allows me.
- 9:54Like that's how happy I am with the company, you know what I'm
- 9:58saying. So it's not the company, it's just my purpose, Like I
- 10:00ain't adding nobody or anything like that. And so I've always said, I
- 10:05know this company would be the last company I worked for. And when I
- 10:09got transitioned out from the leadership role that I was in and even the text
- 10:15bracket or I wanna say text breaking but the zeros that I was in,
- 10:20it got real. It was like, Okay, God, I know,
- 10:24but I know, but this this is not what I know. And so
- 10:28now I'm having to check my emotions because my emotion this is so good.
- 10:33My emotions aren't used to this space either. So my when I'm in the
- 10:43unknown, I know, normally just revert back to land dormant because I don't
- 10:52know. Because I'm so I thrive better when I'm in a space where I'm
- 10:58just like, Okay, I know everything, and I'm the fixer and people
- 11:09can depend on me because I have knowledge and I have understanding and I'm smart
- 11:15in this area. And that's what my that's the little bit of confidence that
- 11:18I do have. But then take that away from me. Who are you?
- 11:22So? The thing is, I ain't gonna say he don't care,
- 11:24but I don't care nothing about that. You don't care, no about your
- 11:28titles, You don't care. You know what grade level you entered into,
- 11:33how many zeros you got on the end of your bank account, you know
- 11:35the letters at the Indian name. And I think the struggle is because this
- 11:39is where I am. Like I've been in full time entrepreneurship since twenty fifteen
- 11:46and it hasn't been up until And I was good because I could control what
- 11:50I could control right which I was getting the bags so I could pay these
- 11:54bills. But he hasn't been in the space where he's like, yeah,
- 11:58no, but I want you to do all the things, but I want
- 12:03your priorities to be first. I should be first. So when we have
- 12:07problems releasing, it's because we don't trust who's supposed to be in the head
- 12:11of our lives. We're trusting ourselves. That's so good. What you just
- 12:16said kind of almost like segues into what I was thinking regarding like mental health
- 12:22and spirituality. Like, I know we've said this multiple times in this series,
- 12:26but it's so serious. Like when we think about mental health, we
- 12:31think about it from the spence. In spirituality, we think about it from
- 12:35the standpoint of people saying Jesus versus therapy. All right, so what about
- 12:41the people that do believe and Jesus and therapy? But they're still fighting And
- 12:48so I think, I guess the most plain way I can make this question
- 12:56or statement or conversation flow is is that I remember being at a point of
- 13:03I didn't know I was burned out until I was burned out. I didn't
- 13:09know that. And it's even it was even at my recent church to where
- 13:13I had to tell my pastors. I was like, hey, I didn't
- 13:16come to you guys and let y'all know this was going on. Mainly this
- 13:22is so good, mainly because there was a status with them that I wanted
- 13:28to uphold, right, so I put my mental health on the back burner.
- 13:33And this is nothing that they they asked me to do or anything,
- 13:35because I can fake it with the with the best of them, Like I
- 13:39can make everything look good. I can make look you know, me going
- 13:43to church and you know, pushing and you know, I'm a director of
- 13:48communications at my church, so it's like I'm not just a pew seat warmer,
- 13:54you know what I'm saying. I'm really not going just going to church,
- 13:56but I'm a part of the activity of the progression of the church.
- 14:01And I had a moment in December to where it wasn't just a church.
- 14:07But at that point in time, we were we were relaunching, we were
- 14:13rebranding, and that process that my role, my role as the director of
- 14:20communications is it was heavy. You know what I'm saying. It was It
- 14:24was a lot, and I was like, you know what, but I
- 14:28gotta fight it because it's was needed for them. And I just had to
- 14:33realize that I was wrong for not being more vocal about I needed. I
- 14:39needed some time, Like I know this is going on, but I'm not
- 14:43making my I'm in school, I'm working, I am, you know,
- 14:48doing this podcast and we're into this thing, and so something's not lining up.
- 14:54I gotta work the podcast. I've committed to you know before this transit
- 15:01this and that, Like I didn't. I didn't really give myself really realistic
- 15:05expectations or boundaries with something because it's it was all new for it was new
- 15:11for majority of us. Right, it was new for a majority of us.
- 15:13And so for the sense of spirituality and mental health is like you,
- 15:18we do have some overachievers like me. They need to learn how to be
- 15:24more vocal vocal about where they are because sometimes it's not it's not about spiritually,
- 15:33it's like mentally, I'm good spiritually, me and Jesus are good,
- 15:35but I'm tired. Yeah, like that that statement just shook me because I've
- 15:43never said me and Jesus are good, but I'm just tired. And I
- 15:48love Fanny lou Fanny lou Hammer, she said she was a civil rights activist
- 15:54from Mississippi. Hus said, I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired.
- 16:02And when I read that in my history book when I was a child,
- 16:06I felt that because I was just like, you know, we don't
- 16:10get we don't get to that statement until we get to that statement, and
- 16:15it's like, where are the proactive measures do that we use to not be
- 16:23there? Yeah, I think why because I'm in this journey like journeying now,
- 16:32like relearning, like what work is and what rest is and I and
- 16:36when you're multifaceted, I think it's harder when they're when you do so many
- 16:41things right. But what I'm learning is being okay with going in and out
- 16:45of seasons, like there'll be some like some seasons, like I feel like
- 16:49this season right now is kind of a season of It is a season of
- 16:53rest, not resting in like I'm not doing anything but resting in, like
- 17:00me learning how to rest in God like I didn't. I didn't. I
- 17:03don't know what. I didn't know what that is. So a lot of
- 17:04my days when I'm here, I may just be sitting like this, I
- 17:10be sitting on my hands because I'd be trying to figure out what I'm supposed
- 17:11to be doing. But he's just literally trying to say, Hey, in
- 17:15this season right now, I need you to rest, rest in me,
- 17:18spend time with me. I'm still I still got some things going on.
- 17:22But when the season, when the season shifts, you need to be prepared
- 17:26for the shifting of the season. You know what I'm saying. I think
- 17:27sometimes we continue to run in seasons that the grace has already lifted off of
- 17:33it. Not saying that we're not going to be doing those things anymore,
- 17:36but right now that's not what we're supposed to be during that season. So
- 17:41just recognizing the seasons that God have us in. So like when it comes
- 17:45to hair, like right now, I'm still doing two days a day and
- 17:51a half in the salon, but I know that season is going to be
- 17:53shifting. Like as far as me like servicing clients in that way now,
- 17:57I still believe that it's a part of my purpose. I still believe.
- 18:02I still believe. I believe that there will always be some type of beauty
- 18:06component to whatever it is that I do. It just won't look like this.
- 18:08And I'm having to get to the point where I'm okay with it not
- 18:11looking like that, but being okay with it looking like how God wants it
- 18:15to look at the next season. That's that's so good because something Shunte sent
- 18:23me the other day was appreciating or being okay with the pace of God.
- 18:33All right, being okay with the pace of God, And basically that means
- 18:40time, you know, and I don't know if I've been okay with the
- 18:47pace of God because once I figured out, like I'm in a space right
- 18:53now, it's like I figured out that I'm good at this thing, or
- 18:57everything that you've done find makes sense, like that that part God, everything
- 19:03that you have done to this point, it's finally starting to make sense,
- 19:08and now I see it. I may not know everything that's attached to it,
- 19:12but I gotta go hard here because I didn't understand it before and I
- 19:18went hard, but now I understand. I want to go harder. Pump
- 19:22your breaks, pumpy breaks, because when we go outside of the pace of
- 19:26God or even I can still stay outside because whether I'm going slower or I'm
- 19:33going faster, I'm still not in his pace, which literally brings me to
- 19:38a mental state of anxiety or depression or both, because it can be because
- 19:47your your anxiety is the the the fear of what's to come depression is you
- 19:56should have could have have versus like being in the moment, like wherever God
- 20:00has whatever race pace that God hasn't seen right here in this moment. That's
- 20:04that's the in him, the dwelling in him, the abiding in him in
- 20:08the moment right here. Do you feel like do you feel like you since
- 20:15you've had this transition? Because how long has it been since you haven't been
- 20:18in the buildings the studio? Yeah, since February, so you're probably three
- 20:26going on four months right now. How have you learned how to just be
- 20:36and be prison? I'm learning, like, and it's still so hard because
- 20:42and I was just thinking about this today. I don't want to say it's
- 20:47an anxiety, but planning, Like I've never really been the type of person
- 20:52to be like, oh, this is my four to five year goal,
- 20:55my three year gold, this is what I would to do this time next
- 20:56year. Like I had just been in a space where I was just running
- 21:00right, you know, I pay these bills. Honestly, I never even
- 21:03want to really have a salon. Like doing Hero wasn't even what I was
- 21:07thinking about. It was just it was the route least resistant because I had
- 21:10been doing it for so long, and I was like, oh, I
- 21:11got some clients, let me pay these bills. But even when it comes
- 21:15to this lane to be honest, like this media lane, like I know
- 21:18what I've seen, but I'm like, why is it hard so hard for
- 21:22me right now to put something on paper, to plan for it, think
- 21:26about like social media? Like I'm doing the things in the background, but
- 21:27it's like, why am I What is the resistance for me right now to
- 21:32be able to go out and tell people what I'm doing or to stay consistent
- 21:37with these things. So I'm like, Okay, is this me just trying
- 21:40to force myself to do these things? Or is God really teaching me in
- 21:42this moment, Hey, I just really just need you to sit, just
- 21:45to sit. And the other day, you know, I mean this teaching
- 21:51class, right, and so I had been trying to call myself trying to
- 21:53sit. But what I'm realizing is I'm still trying to control a lot of
- 21:56things. But that when I sat down that Friday afternoon and literally just sat
- 22:02here with the Bible with some music playing, and I probably was sitting here
- 22:07for a minute until I started to get some things. But I don't think
- 22:12I allow myself to sit long enough. I'm still I'm still trying to control
- 22:18things, you know what I'm saying, And that's really what he's trying to
- 22:21break. Listen that, and that's what I feel. I feel like that's
- 22:26a continuous breaking, especially with people like us, like people that are fixers,
- 22:33people that are I'm gonna make it happen. And I'm realizing that.
- 22:38I'm realizing that to be in control is to be out of out of control.
- 22:45Yes, I'm gonna say that again. To be in control is to
- 22:51be out of control, but to be to allow him to control is to
- 23:00be in control. And it's like the moments where I'm like, I've I
- 23:06can tell when I've trusted God somewhere in I think it's space because there's there's
- 23:11a level of peace that don't when I say peace, you can't explain it.
- 23:15Like it's like fols like you know, no, it's not lunch,
- 23:18none of London at all. I don't have no feelings, no emotional It
- 23:22is what it is. One of my friends say, it is what it
- 23:26is, it ain't what it ain't, and it's gonna be what it's gonna
- 23:29be. Listen, and that statement could be from a grontel place, but
- 23:37certain things in my life it currently are just like you know what, am
- 23:45I? Am I gonna fight? Am I gonna fight God by fighting,
- 23:51fighting for the situation? Or am I just gonna be still? Because that's
- 23:55what happened in the boat. Everybody became disgruntled, right when everybody came discrowned
- 24:02led God Jesus looked at them like you just don't know who's with you?
- 24:06You just don't know. I'm resting, Why aren't you? It's say we're
- 24:08Christ like, Well, why are we not being like Christ? Why aren't
- 24:11we resting? Why are we still? Why aren't we raising? Because we
- 24:15let outside things dictate what's going on inside the boat? And look who you
- 24:22got in the boat? Look who do you look? Who? Look who
- 24:25rides? Had dead nails? How you ride? Listen? I'm I'm,
- 24:32I'm, I'm I'm learning, And it's probably yes, I am. The
- 24:36just cut on, y'all. If y'all see me putting this blank, y'all,
- 24:41y'all see me with my arms out, y'all see me with my arms
- 24:45out, and the AC just clicked on like it was nobody's business. And
- 24:49I don't like being cold period. I don't like being hot either, But
- 24:56I really, I really feel like we have an opportunity to as believers,
- 25:08to force our sabbatical. What do I mean by that? And might remember
- 25:15to say forced the sabbatical, but force the sabbath? Yeah, because God
- 25:21did that in order for us to know how to rest. And then even
- 25:26in moving when we look at the story of Jesus or the storyline of Jesus,
- 25:32he every move was ordained by God. Yea. And he even went
- 25:36back to the Father and say, hey, he was confident because he walked
- 25:41with the Father every day. And why do I bring up Jesus as an
- 25:45example. I bring up Jesus as an example for the simple fact that that
- 25:49was his purpose, the purpose for uh, for him even being here,
- 25:52was to be about his father's business. And you listen, Oh, this
- 25:57is so good. You can't be about your father's business being in mental anguish.
- 26:07You can't be about your father's business and not knowing how to rest in
- 26:10him. You can't be about your father's business and not knowing or understanding who
- 26:18you are. And so one of the things that I just really wanted to
- 26:23for us to get across in this in this space and this mental health space
- 26:33was that we deserve to be okay. And I don't think I believe that
- 26:37for a long time. Oh that that just hit a nerve. That's just
- 26:44I deserve, I deserve to be okay. How you're gonna be about your
- 26:48father's business? Not even just just that I deserve to be okay, because
- 26:56I just deserve to be okay. And I think if I'm transparent, I
- 27:10don't think I've ever thought that I deserve to I deserve to rest in God.
- 27:15I don't think I've ever thought that I deserved It's a lot of things
- 27:18that I do out of and that's an orphan spirit. I don't think I
- 27:25deserve it. So I try to prove my words or why I deserve something,
- 27:30or I feel like I have to do versus just be in order to
- 27:34gain the peace of God, in order to gain the blessings of God,
- 27:38in order to gain the love of God. And I really feel like that
- 27:45that brings on a level of anxiety or a level of unnecessary strain to something
- 27:56that God says, think upon these things. What are these things that you
- 27:59want me to think upon? God? What is lovely? What's that scription?
- 28:03Let me whatever is, Yeah, I think it's in. We love
- 28:08we love going to the scription. We have. Oh, we ain't done
- 28:11a good description in a while. And you know, yeah, we like
- 28:15when Bishop desil Ray come out. I don't do it. They're gonna these
- 28:22things scriptures Philippins four mm hmm. Let me find me a good we love
- 28:32tranlation. Yes, we love the Philippines, the Philippines, Philippians. Let's
- 28:41see already highlighted. That's something you already got. It started to highlighted.
- 28:47Okay, well read it because I ain't got my glasses today. Did you
- 28:49find them? No? I didn't, Hello Jesus. So this is Philippians
- 28:55four and eight. This is n l T. Let me see, let
- 28:59me, let me see. You know the NFT is Ratchet Ranchet. So
- 29:10we're gonna read a couple of different version because you know they kind of read
- 29:11a little different. I'm gonna start with the Passion, the Passion translation and
- 29:17it's foreign or yes, man, what translation you got? I always got
- 29:21the Christian Standard version available, so we can I can tell you to you
- 29:25with you Let's see, all right. Passion translation says, keep your thoughts
- 29:29continually fixed, keep your thoughts continually fixed on all that is authentic and real,
- 29:37honorable and admirable, beautiful and respectful, pure and holy, merciful and
- 29:44kind. And fasten your thoughts on every glorious work of God, praising him
- 29:49always. Christian standard version says Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever's true,
- 29:56whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely,
- 30:02whatever is commendable. If there is any moral excellence, and if there
- 30:07is anything praiseworthy, dwell on these things. Message, Oh oh, that
- 30:18is that is trill fam e and t version of the book. We're gonna
- 30:23take it to say, summon it all uprumbing it all up. I'd say
- 30:29you'll do best by filling your mind and meditating on things true, noble,
- 30:34reputable, authentic, compelling, gracious, the best, not the worst,
- 30:40the beautiful, not the ugly, things to praise, not things to curse.
- 30:44Put into practice what you learned from me, what you heard and saw.
- 30:48This is eight and nine together. He's just telling them to put into
- 30:52practice what he's done and what he's what they've heard. Repeat the first the
- 30:56first part of that though, summon it all up, some of the all
- 31:00friends, I like, I'd say, you'd do best by filling your mind
- 31:06and meditating on things true, noble, reputable, authentic, compelling, and
- 31:10gracious, you would do better by feeling, by feeling your mind. So
- 31:17either this is two things. The two questions are what are you filling your
- 31:25mind with? Because it's always something, But for the people, that's like
- 31:30the used word nothing, No, it's something. Is your mind empty?
- 31:37Because sometimes we will dump, like it says will dump. It's almost like
- 31:41the thought about deliverance, right when you think about deliverance in church or whatever,
- 31:45and what that means, because I don't want to assume that everybody knows
- 31:48the terms that we're using, but what that means is like people get delivered
- 31:55from Let's say, let's say I experienced domestic violence, right in which that
- 32:02is an actual thing. I've experienced domexic violence, and I didn't even know
- 32:07I was I had experienced it because it was so embodied. Like it's almost
- 32:14like I embodied so much or I just I just went with it. I
- 32:17didn't while I was in it, I didn't know that was going on.
- 32:20And so when I found it out and I figured it out, it was
- 32:22me going through delivering. So God will bring something up in a moment and
- 32:28say, okay, now I need to bring it up so it can come
- 32:30out. Right. I bring it up so you can not only be aware
- 32:35of it, but so it can leave you. And then now there's this
- 32:37this space where I haven't where I was holding this bad thing. And now
- 32:44that's why healing. Right, We're gonna use healing as not just healing going
- 32:49to church stuff like that, but professional healing like going to a seeing a
- 32:52therapist, so to see a counselor It benefits us because we don't know what
- 32:58to do without that bad thing so good we don't know. So basically,
- 33:02the message version is telling us that we need to fill our minds with things
- 33:08that are lovely, things that are true, things that are admirable. What
- 33:13are the things? What you know about yourself is not true. I don't
- 33:16know who this is for, but I believe that what you know about yourself
- 33:21is not true. That's the that's the season I'm in right now. I'm
- 33:23finding out that I thought I knew me, and God is like, but
- 33:28nah, you don't really know you for real, Like I'm here to show
- 33:30you. And and and it's been a battle to a frustrating. I'm gonna
- 33:35be honest with you, guys, it's been frustrating Desert Ray to go through
- 33:39this space because it's like, I'm thirty two years old, like I thought
- 33:44I knew me, and right now I feel like a babe. I feel
- 33:49like a child, like I'm having to relearn me again. I'm having to
- 33:53and I won't even say relearn, having to relearn you are you? Are
- 33:58you now learning the the real youth. I'm learning the real me. And
- 34:02I'm also frustrated because I don't know what to do with the old mem if
- 34:10that makes sense, Like I don't know what to do with the old version
- 34:15of me, and I'm like, I'm there's a grief, Like people are
- 34:20like, oh, just you should do mm hmm. Because attached to the
- 34:24old me are relationships. Attached to the old me are commitments to the old
- 34:30me. Attached to the old me are things that I m envisioned for myself.
- 34:35And I've written that. I've written it down and made it playing,
- 34:38you know what I'm saying. But what I wrote down was that was that
- 34:42me? Or was that God? You know what I'm saying. So now
- 34:44I'm like, now i gotta break all these commitments that I made vows as
- 34:50the old me, And I'm like, what do you doing old things?
- 34:54All things are passed away, old things, what do you doing typically with
- 34:59old things? I'm a hoarder. That's a whole nother. That's a whole
- 35:06other situation. Look the truth, the truth. What it's say, such
- 35:15a free it is so bad. Like literally I've been, I've been.
- 35:23That may be why it's hard to let go to Oh. It's a reason
- 35:27why it's hard to let go to oh. Right, yeah, so and
- 35:30sometimes we think it's just hereditary, but I really got to figure out.
- 35:35I'm looking for new therapist, y'all. I'm big transparent with y'all. I'm
- 35:38looking for new therapists. And I'm excited about that because the therapist I've had
- 35:47has seen me through a lot of things or whatever, and I'm ready to
- 35:52be I think it's time for our relationship to go somewhere else. But we
- 35:59can't do that in a therapeutic relationship. But I'm looking for a new therapist
- 36:06because I really want somebody that has no idea of who I am, Like
- 36:10I just need somebody that don't know who I am. And so the things
- 36:14that I want to be honest about. Geez sus, Okay, you know
- 36:22what I just said that. I was like, that's probably why I'll be
- 36:24staying in these long relationships, these long term relationships, because I be hoarding
- 36:30relationships. It's a thing. It's a thing when you're gonna put the camera
- 36:37on you. Was listening to your town. It was listening. Look,
- 36:45I'm telling too much of my pieces right now. So I found an description.
- 36:51We're talking about the mind, you know, it's talking about feeling,
- 36:53feeling your brain. When you asked what you're feeling the things? Yeah,
- 36:57what do you feel? So then what came up was why is the camera
- 37:00on me? I'm getting on her nerves because she's getting on mine. We're
- 37:05getting I love you. I love you too. Okay. So Second Corinthians
- 37:10ten and five, this again is gonna be the message version. So I
- 37:15had to come in the middle and find because they put three through six together.
- 37:21But Second Corinthians ten and five, find it in a regular find find
- 37:25it in in your in your your translation, the Christian standard. Sure,
- 37:31you said, Corinthians second two Corinthians two Corinthians ten and five, y'all go
- 37:39get out there. Lady two and five, ten and five, ten,
- 37:45ten and five, it's okay telling about and every proud thing that is raised
- 37:50up against the knowledge of God. Oh, why gotta start then at the
- 37:54beginning? Is it? You know what? I'm just gonna start at the
- 37:59first because now to tewo Corinthius ten right, yes, the tenth jock.
- 38:07Okay, Now, I, Paul, myself appealed to you by the meekness
- 38:12and gentleness of Christ. I am who or I who am humble among you
- 38:20in person, but bold toward you when absent. I beg you that when
- 38:24I am present, I will not need to be bold with the confidence by
- 38:30which I plan to challenge certain people who think we are living according to the
- 38:35flesh my God. For although we live in the flesh, we do not
- 38:39wage war against the flesh, since the weapons of our warfare are not fled,
- 38:45are not the flesh, but are powerful through God. For the demolition
- 38:51of strongholds, We demolish arguments in every proud thing that is raised up against
- 38:58the knowledge of God. And we take every thought captive to obey Christ.
- 39:04And we are ready to punish any disobedience once your obedience is complete. So
- 39:10what came up was capturing the thoughts as you talked about like what are your
- 39:15what are what were you feeling your thoughts? What's what kind of thoughts feeling
- 39:19your mind? You know? And that's kind of like where I've been is
- 39:23trying to acknowledge what is feeling my thoughts and sometimes it's not the good things.
- 39:29So I literally lively bit like no, come on back, like come
- 39:34on, come on back, bringing bring it back back in trying to take
- 39:37those negative thoughts captive, but then replacing them with what the words is,
- 39:42yeah, because when you don't replace it, you just you're become the come
- 39:46walking to dead or you leave. It's a it's a scripture that talks about
- 39:51the enemy. When the enemy flees, he doesn't if he tries to come
- 39:57back. He comes back to see if if it's empty, and if it's
- 40:01if it's still empty, then he's bringing more of the other things that are
- 40:07attached. So you're not gonna just seven times worse. And so the reason
- 40:13why it needs to be feeled is because when the enemy sees that now it
- 40:16needs to be filled with the right thing. Because if the enemy sees another
- 40:20enemy, he goes, oh okay, we can all just be here,
- 40:22we can all be in the same house. And you know what I'm saying,
- 40:27we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll just build on top of this,
- 40:29you know what I'm saying. But when it's filled with God, the enemy
- 40:32is intimidated by God. The enemy, the enemy knows his place with God,
- 40:37right, he knows he knows his place with us. That's why he
- 40:42be really mad is because it's like, so he's really mad because we come
- 40:49before, we really become before him. And because he denounced himself, he
- 40:54put himself in the place that he's in. You get what I'm saying.
- 40:58And so when we when we give the enemy so much power and we give
- 41:02we are ignorant to the process of the releasing process. But being feeled like
- 41:15because I can't even say we've been refeeled, because we never been feeled before.
- 41:20You know what I'm saying, Like, truly feel, not even I'm
- 41:22not even talking about the Holy Spirit or anything like that, but but truly
- 41:25feel with the love of the Lord. I think I'm in a place where
- 41:30I'm just like, is it I need the evidence of the love of the
- 41:34Lord. What is the evidence of the love of the Lord? Here?
- 41:37Because a lot of times we can get so hyper spiritual about something and it
- 41:42wrecks our brains to where we like we're scared to make a move on the
- 41:45thing. God, I just need to see your love here. If I
- 41:47can see your love here, then I'll have my answer. If I can
- 41:51see where you know the pathway here, if I can see you here,
- 41:53because you say that you are loved, I need to see love. I
- 41:58need to see love. I I can't. I can't deal with this confusion
- 42:01because you say you're not the author of it. So why am I reading
- 42:04the book? You get what I'm saying. So it's like, I don't
- 42:08know, child, but I am. I am. I feel like I'm
- 42:12fighting, uh to have balance because some of the things that spiritually that they
- 42:20teach us or say that we should or shouldn't be doing or what that that's
- 42:22stressful too, That's a that's a mind blow too. It's like I'm operating
- 42:27perfectionism because I feel like I have no freedom. Something Kirsten told me something
- 42:31today. I apologize now, y'all. Let me tell you something. I
- 42:36pop off with the best of them. Okay, mm hmm. Made me
- 42:39mad, like made me, made me real mad and uh, and now
- 42:43I'm not telling you to come make me mad or whatever, because I got
- 42:45a little bit more Jesus than me. So if y'all come off the street
- 42:49trying to make me mad, you you might not get there, because I
- 42:54know it's gonna probably be a sign of the enemy. But like people that
- 42:58really get to me, they know who they are. And so she heard
- 43:02me go just pop off one day, she said. First of all,
- 43:07she said, well, I'm used to it, and I was like,
- 43:13girl, goodbye. But then she says, but you're also human. M
- 43:20hm. So in my mind, in my mind, I'm like, my
- 43:23little sister can't see me like this, and her mind is like, but
- 43:28she's human. It don't change the way I view her. It don't change
- 43:31the way I love her. It doesn't change the way that I value her,
- 43:37doesn't change the way I see her. Just she just popped off.
- 43:42Yeah, And I don't know if I've given myself permission to be human.
- 43:47You know. I think I think we think that that God don't know human.
- 43:53I think we forget that he made us with flesh. I think we
- 43:59forget that's why he sent his Holy Spirit because we are human and we're gonna
- 44:06mess up. We're gonna miss up. But the thing how you the righteousness
- 44:13and the holiness is your response to it, you know what I'm saying.
- 44:17It's like, yeah, I cussed, and I'm just gonna cuss because I
- 44:22like to cuss versus you know, man, I don't. I mean,
- 44:27it comes out, but my heart, like I know, God not pleased
- 44:30with that. So I'm really trying to do better versus I'm grown. I'm
- 44:34gonna do what I want to, you know what I'm saying, Like,
- 44:36he know human, But it's how, it's how you're responding, Like what
- 44:39is your response to the things that are going on? Like we have emotions.
- 44:44You gotta feel the emotions because you have that, they're there, But
- 44:46it's like then what do you do with it? Like how do you?
- 44:50How do you how do you then respond to after you've responded to the emotions.
- 44:54That's so good. Your your response dictates where you are. Yeah,
- 45:00that's good. Yeah, grief, like there are cycles of grief you gotta
- 45:06go through. You gotta allow yourself to go through those cycles. But it's
- 45:07like you can't sit in each one of them. You know what I'm saying.
- 45:14You can't sit there because that's the mind. That's what the enemy.
- 45:17The enemy comes in, that's what he come in first, literally is in
- 45:21the mind. If he can you know, plan a seed and you catch
- 45:24that seed of you know, let's say you're battling with health thing, right,
- 45:30but we know the scripture say they by stripes we are healed. Right.
- 45:34Some sometimes healing can be simultaneously a miracle, or sometimes there has to
- 45:38be a process for it. But if he, if he, if he
- 45:40can make you think that that's not your portion, then that's what you're gonna
- 45:44hold onto that that's not your portion when it really is. So we just
- 45:49have to I just keep I keep getting on this the mind thing, because
- 45:52that's if we can the thoughts that we have running through our minds, if
- 45:58we can bring them active and just continue to meditate because you know, the
- 46:04it's uh meditation is a big thing now because it's a lot of what you
- 46:07had to do, right, but it's it's in the scripture he said,
- 46:09meditate on these things. Think on these things. The things that are good,
- 46:14the things that are lovely, the things that are beautiful, are things
- 46:15that are wholesome. Those are the things that you should be constantly thinking on
- 46:20not the negative things, not the the doubt, the fears, the anxieties,
- 46:23because that's it's gonna keep you like this. Yeah. So that's literally
- 46:30like in that, in that in him. That's literally the main one of
- 46:32the main things that I've been really trying to focus on is where are my
- 46:37thoughts? Mm hmmm. When you sit and you sit in solitude, like
- 46:42if you seeing quiet, like we are your thoughts? That's that goes back
- 46:49to even what I'm doing with the focus up shameless plug. You still got
- 46:53time to get a part of it. Just get focused is the uh.
- 47:00The website to join that community, and what we're doing in that community is
- 47:05allowing ourselves to remove distractions and zone in on what we need, not from
- 47:21God but with God. I think we always talk about from a place instead
- 47:25of being with being in partnership, and a lot of us may have an
- 47:30opportunity to do things differently, to do things different because we've been looking for
- 47:40somebody to give us the power that is already within us. It says that
- 47:45when Jesus left this world, he said he sent the Holy Spirit, and
- 47:53not only the man of the Holy Spirit, but the power of the Holy
- 47:58Spirit that will stay with us, right, and then he says that there's
- 48:02power that has been invested in us. Right, So that means that I
- 48:07deposited something in you that is going to need to be ignited by your willingness
- 48:16to ignite it. It's gonna need to be ignited by your willingness to ignite
- 48:23it. And so it takes, y'all, It takes effort to focus some
- 48:31I know, I've been in a place where I'm like, God, I
- 48:35ain't got no effort, I ain't got no I'm tired. Like, we'll
- 48:37talk, tad, what you're gonna do, what you're gonna do. So
- 48:45I'm grateful. I'm grateful for grateful for the series. Will I do it
- 48:51again? I don't know, but we've done it. We have done it,
- 48:57and we've done it. Will And the reason why I say I don't
- 48:59know, y'all, I'm gonna be transparent. Doing this every week and being
- 49:12the first point of contact of this information, back to back to back to
- 49:21back, right, it does something to you. Especially with the space that
- 49:25I'm in, I'm being soci transparent, especially with the transition that I'm experiencing
- 49:30now. I'm glad I'm able to document this. I'm glad I'm able to
- 49:36go back and you know, look at the dates that God, you know,
- 49:37like, oh well this was you know, this was recorded or release
- 49:40of this day or whatever, and God did this. I'm looking forward to
- 49:44about this time next year. I was saying, hey, I remember that.
- 49:46You know, I had a lot of question marks. Now there was
- 49:50question marks. Have turned it to exclamation points, you know what I'm saying.
- 49:53And this series has been straight because it's made me look at myself a
- 50:06lot more. I thought I was already doing that, and now it's like
- 50:12mm hmm. And so I can't expect you guys to take your mental health
- 50:15seriously and me not do the same. And so I'm appreciative that you guys
- 50:25have joined this journey. But I am really ready to get back to the
- 50:30to the schedule handing because we got some exciting things coming up. We are
- 50:36we are doing some exciting things, uh, DESI, Rae and I will
- 50:39be taking a break in July. Episodes will still be uploaded and ready for
- 50:45y'all to look at it, but we're not recording in July. So I
- 50:51think about I'm excited. I'm very excited just not to do anything. I
- 50:58mean, the only thing that I'm doing one shameless plug is going to the
- 51:04podcast summing July fourth, July fifth, with none other than the Greatest David
- 51:10Shan's and along with his co hosts partnering crime Donny Wiggins, will be there
- 51:19and a plethora when I say, a plethora of people and your girl.
- 51:27I take a screenshot every time I see it. I just be having to
- 51:32like just remind you, like like your obedience, right, It's a reward
- 51:42like you was you were sitting literally was you was sitting in the audience last
- 51:46year, get like people. I don't think people really understand that. I
- 51:52don't think y'all understand I don't think y'all get it that I was in the
- 51:57audience last year, barely make it to podcast summit. I went off on
- 52:05faith. I really went on faith. And my reward of that faith move
- 52:16it. I don't even have words for what I'm still experiencing. Right,
- 52:25I made a decision to go to this conference. I looked at Dave and
- 52:30I don't even think he probably don't even remember this, but I looked at
- 52:34David last year at the summit, and I told him, I said,
- 52:37oh, I did myself a disservice. Next time, I'm gonna be in
- 52:42the front. I told this man this because the way it was set up,
- 52:47and in my mind, I was telling him, hey, I was
- 52:49gonna be, you know, all access. I forget the VP. I
- 52:53wanted to be all access because all access literally got to taste and see.
- 53:00They really get the opportunity to experience and ask questions and have that intimate response.
- 53:07But even with me with my general admissions ticket, if I go,
- 53:10I literally went from general admissions to being posted as a speaker for this podcast
- 53:21of it like I was still going regardless speaker or nose speaker, you know
- 53:25that. And I purchased an all access ticket. I was planning on going
- 53:31anyway, and then another door opened, right. I had to be bold
- 53:37and courageous in that moment when that door opened, right, And the way
- 53:45God is dealing with my mind, going back to the mind now regarding accepting
- 53:54something so major like this, He's just I have to have a sound mind.
- 54:02I have to lean on his understanding. I have to acknowledge him in
- 54:08every way so that he can direct my path because I've never been this before
- 54:12and I've never seen it before, but I trust God. Just like I
- 54:15trust God to get to Miami last year, I trust God for what he's
- 54:19going to do in Atlanta. So people like, are you nervous? Are
- 54:22you nervous? Yeah, the flesh is very nervous. But that juska,
- 54:27that spirit joenska. Oh, I'm finna kid this, I'm finna go so
- 54:30shameless plug. If you haven't gotten your ticket, we'll just put the website
- 54:37and it's in this uh link and you just go get your ticket and come
- 54:44if you get your ticket, because you you you see this, listen,
- 54:49I want to tell you. I want to take a picture of you.
- 54:51I want to take a picture. I want to take a picture with everybody.
- 54:52Did It's gonna be like over fifteen hundred people there and it's about to
- 54:58be stupid. So I'm excited. I love you guys. Does already you
- 55:02got any final thoughts? Why are you put the camera on yourself? That's
- 55:13not how you were looking before she called me out guard? Why you're here?
- 55:22You record? That's a way you are here. When I say hey,
- 55:31normally I ask you, but I didn't think he was gonna ask me
- 55:34that. Do you or do you not have any father, folks, But
- 55:39I'll just say, you know, at the end of the day, the
- 55:45series was just to bring awareness to the mental health space, you know,
- 55:51to give some information, to help people get a little bit a bit more
- 55:53informed on resources that are out there, and to just let you know that
- 56:00it's okay to not be okay, but also to know that it's also okay
- 56:04to get help if you need it, you know what I'm saying. And
- 56:07so today, you know, really just guarding your thoughts, I think is
- 56:10so important because that's where a lot of the mental that's literally where the mental
- 56:16space is taken up is by our thoughts. So we just have to make
- 56:20sure that we're filling it with the good things and not the bad things.
- 56:24With their lives through all lies, don't listen to their lies. Okay,
- 56:29that's not no, You're fine. Holy spirits reminding me to tell people,
- 56:36I want to end this mental health opportunity. I know it's a lot of
- 56:40people that may be financially struggling right now, and I don't want to take
- 56:45that for granted. I'm actually one of the ones that's taking about to take
- 56:49advantage of this opportunity. You may not have good insurance or assurance that will
- 56:54you know, you're still paying for a lot of stuff. I learned about
- 56:59this this psychotherapy collective called Openpath. Michelle Obama actually shouted them out in her
- 57:06last book. And so it's Openpathcollective dot org. And you have to pay
- 57:13a sixty five dollars All you have to do is pay a sixty five dollars
- 57:15membership fee and that sets you for life, right, and then the sessions
- 57:22are only between forty to seventy dollars per session, and if you get a
- 57:25student intern, it's only thirty dollars per session. So everybody in your I
- 57:31don't know if you can see this on my phone on YouTube, it's brewery,
- 57:37but if you go to Openpathcollective dot org, you will see this opportunity.
- 57:44And yeah, and also in our last episode, if you didn't take
- 57:47advantage of Jasmine ordeal, she's offering three three client client sections, unlimited unlimited
- 57:58client sations. So you can't be free, but you gotta do the work,
- 58:01and so we're excited. I love you, Desiree, I love you
- 58:05Jessica. I love y'all. Until next time. Remember life could be much
- 58:10more simple if you just asked, thank you for tuning in to this week's
- 58:22episode. Since you've made it this far, you might as well connect with
- 58:24us on all social media platforms at the Jessica S. Smith. I know
- 58:30I won't see you back until next week, but until then, remember to
- 58:36love always yourself and always thank thank God for one another day. Hey,
- 58:44Hey, I know we could be another way. Hey, pray thank God
- 58:51for another day. Hey hey, I'm just thankful another day. Hey Hey,
- 59:00another day? Oh, another day wise, another day to get it
- 59:05right, another day to rise up, another day living, another day we
- 59:07loved ones. I always remember, hold it down for a ball, one ye