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10-year-old little girl missing five months. Help us find Breasia Terrell! · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. A ten year old little
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Speaker 1: girl goes missing? What happened to brie Asia and what
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Speaker 1: is being done about her case? Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends at k w q
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Speaker 1: CTV six. We should never stop asking ourselves whereas Brisia.
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Speaker 1: In an effort to reignite the search for Brigia Terrell,
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Speaker 1: members of the Quad Cities community are offering their own money.
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Speaker 1: Ten year old Brigia was last seen in Davenport on
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Speaker 1: July tenth. A reward for information leading to her whereabouts
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Speaker 1: was quickly offered by crime Stoppers of the Quad Cities
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Speaker 1: and the FBI, but as the months continued, no new
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Speaker 1: leads were announced and the volunteer search parties began to dwindle.
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Speaker 1: Now and months later, Rusty barr Offen one at in Davenport,
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Speaker 1: announced their own five thousand dollar reward. That Facebook post
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Speaker 1: quickly gaining traction, and not long after others began to
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Speaker 1: offer their money too. This reward now sitting at twenty
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars and joins a similar amount law enforcement is
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Speaker 1: already offering. As the days since Breasia was last seen
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Speaker 1: continue to pass, Davenport police say the investigation remains open
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Speaker 1: and ongoing resources are dedicated to the case, and they
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Speaker 1: appreciate the help the community has contributed. Somehow, this little
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Speaker 1: girl has gotten lost in the sauce, a ten year old,
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Speaker 1: defenseless little girl. Again, thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 1: Let me give you the tip line right off the top.
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Speaker 1: It's three zero nine seven to six two ninety five hundred.
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Speaker 1: Three zero nine seven six two ninety five hundred. Got
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Speaker 1: an all star panel with me to break it down
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Speaker 1: and put it back together again. First of all, Jason
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Speaker 1: Oceans attorney joining us with a choice state area, New York,
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Speaker 1: New Jersey. He's weighing in. Not only that, Doctor Angela Arnold,
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Speaker 1: renowned psychiatrists joining me out of the Atlanta jurisdiction. Karen
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Speaker 1: Smith joining me from LA forensics expert. We met on
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Speaker 1: a recreation of a crime scene, host of shattered souls
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Speaker 1: and joining you right now. Special guest from the Quad
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Speaker 1: City Times, Davenport, Iowa reporter Tom Lowe. Tom Lowie, let
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Speaker 1: me start at the beginning. Who is this little girl?
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Speaker 1: Free Asian? This little girl is a basketball player. She's
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Speaker 1: a typical ten year old. She's really into social social media,
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Speaker 1: and likes to make dance videos with their mom. Tom,
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Speaker 1: can I ask you a question, do you have children?
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Speaker 1: I have a thirteen year old in my wife. Yes.
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Speaker 1: So you know when you say a typical ten year old,
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Speaker 1: now I know that you know what we're talking about.
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Speaker 1: There's TikTok, there's just so many. And that's the thing
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Speaker 1: right now, making dance videos. And I'm looking at Breasia
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Speaker 1: and she's stunning. And when you say she plays basketball,
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Speaker 1: you know what goes into that. My daughter is on volleyball,
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Speaker 1: my son plays basketball and soccer. You're in every game.
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Speaker 1: You try to practice with them because they're your world.
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Speaker 1: What they do I want to do. And I'm just
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Speaker 1: thinking of the mom who is trying to find her
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Speaker 1: daughter as we speak, and suddenly she's just gone. And
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Speaker 1: you know, to doctor Angela Arnold, when I first heard
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Speaker 1: about Basia, I imagine going into the twins room and
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Speaker 1: they're just gone, and I don't know where they are
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Speaker 1: and I don't know what happened to them. But that's
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Speaker 1: what the mother's going through right now, just totally gone,
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Speaker 1: like somebody went and their home. They're on it. Just
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Speaker 1: a kid and you cheap and no one can find them,
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Speaker 1: and it just goes all on and on. It's you know,
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Speaker 1: it's almost as if you enter a One time I
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Speaker 1: lost my little girl in a store when I was shopping,
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Speaker 1: I almost lost my mind. Everybody in the store started
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Speaker 1: helping me, started looking for her, to help me find her,
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Speaker 1: and everything flashed through my mind, everything but all of
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Speaker 1: the worst tast scenarios flashed through my mind. And all
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Speaker 1: she was doing was playing in between some racks of clothes. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know what, John David went missing in a giant
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Speaker 1: Toys are Us? Or Babies are Us? Babies are Us?
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Speaker 1: Giant warehouse, And all I could think about was Adam Walsh.
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Speaker 1: His mom Rose was on one aisle. He goes missing
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Speaker 1: just a few aisles away. And then the children, when
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Speaker 1: I would take them to an actual mall, I'd be
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Speaker 1: a nervous wreck. Finally we started doing exactly what your
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Speaker 1: daughter did. And I would tell them, okay, hide and
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Speaker 1: I'll confine you. And they would hide in closes wrecks,
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Speaker 1: and I could see their feet and then little clog
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Speaker 1: sticking out and I know where, and they'd stay hidden
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Speaker 1: while I look for clothes from them, so at least
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Speaker 1: I would know and I'm just thinking about this. Mom.
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Speaker 1: Let me go back to Tom Lowie, Quad City Times,
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Speaker 1: Devin port Ahowa. Tom, how do you just lose your daughter?
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Speaker 1: What happened in this specific case? The mother's name is
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Speaker 1: Aisha Langford. Yeah, and u Breasia went with her brother
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Speaker 1: to visit his dad, right, yep, his father's house. Oh
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Speaker 1: my goodness is she goes missing from there? Exactly? Ye oh,
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Speaker 1: Tom Lowe, Quad City Times. That's a whole other layer
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Speaker 1: of me being upset because you know what that means.
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Speaker 1: Jason Oceans, You've raised two incredible shouldren and I give
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Speaker 1: all the credit to your wife, no offense, but I
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Speaker 1: know her. She is incredible. You're out, you know, in
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Speaker 1: one courtroom after the next, and your children have somehow
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Speaker 1: managed to turn out incredible. But do you hear what
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Speaker 1: he just said, Tom Lowie The Quad City Times. So
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Speaker 1: Breasia goes with her little brother to visit the brother's dad.
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Speaker 1: So that means the mom's letting go of a little
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Speaker 1: bit of control. It's like me letting a Lucy go
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Speaker 1: to a spend the night party. I hate every second
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Speaker 1: of it. And then she goes missing from there. So
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Speaker 1: you're constantly berating yourself I shouldn't let her go. He
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Speaker 1: wasn't watching her well enough. Why did I do this?
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Speaker 1: Do you remember the first time your daughter went to
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Speaker 1: a spend the night? Oh mine? Cool? Nancy, that you
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Speaker 1: know that fear, that anxiety that everyone is described on
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Speaker 1: the panel, and as you described, you know, thinking of Breisha,
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Speaker 1: it's it's it's so frightening. Everything passes through your mind
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Speaker 1: and you know, it's it's almost like you just want
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Speaker 1: to blink, go to sleep, wake up and everything's okay.
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Speaker 1: You know what, Jason, You and I've discussed this many
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Speaker 1: times on a dark set at Court TV. That's just
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Speaker 1: how I felt when my fiancee was murdered just before
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Speaker 1: our wedding. I would wake up in the morning and
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Speaker 1: just for maybe three or four seconds, I think everything
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Speaker 1: was okay. Then I think wait, wait, wait, wait, and
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Speaker 1: then it would hit like a ton of bricks. It
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Speaker 1: wasn't a badgery, it was real. And that's what brie
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Speaker 1: AGA's mom is going through right now. Tipline three or
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Speaker 1: nine Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. We are talking about
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Speaker 1: a gorgeous little girl just ten years old who goes
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Speaker 1: missing out of Davenport, Iowa. Mom lets her go with
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Speaker 1: the little brother to visit the brother's bio dad Okay
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Speaker 1: for a visitation. It was scheduled, it was planned, everything
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Speaker 1: was fine, and then, for whatever reason, this little girl
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Speaker 1: vanishes into thin air while she's with the brother. Dad.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends at k WQC. Michael
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Speaker 1: ticup Bamiley says a tip also led authorities to February
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Speaker 1: Park Saturday afternoon. Police released a statement Saturday, writing quote,
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Speaker 1: DPD and supporting agencies are working expert driven and independent
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Speaker 1: search efforts that do not require volunteers, and as independent
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Speaker 1: search parties are organized separately, police ask if you know anything,
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Speaker 1: call nine one one. Nobody you heard anything, we sure
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Speaker 1: could use the assistance. Crime Stoppers of the Quad Cities
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Speaker 1: is now offering a thirty five hundred dollars cash reward
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Speaker 1: for any information that helps authority locates Horrell. I'm so
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Speaker 1: blessed to have such amazing community, especially with everything that's
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Speaker 1: one end right now, an entire community working together to
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Speaker 1: bring a ten year old girl home. We're going to
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Speaker 1: keep our resources out and until we can help help
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Speaker 1: the family find their girl. A reward right now in
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Speaker 1: the recovery to helping them recovery of this ten year
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Speaker 1: old little girl who seemingly vanishes into thin air with me,
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Speaker 1: Jason Oshan's doctor, Angela Arnold, Karen Smith out of LA
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Speaker 1: and Tom Lowe, Quad City Times, Davenport, Iowa reporter. Back
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Speaker 1: to you, Tom Lowe, I want to give the facts
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Speaker 1: as we know them right now to Karen Smith, our
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Speaker 1: forensic expert and host of Shattered Souls, so she can
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Speaker 1: analyze along with me what we believe the cops should
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Speaker 1: be doing right now. And I mean that in a
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Speaker 1: supportive way, not to say the cops are doing anything wrong,
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Speaker 1: But the two of us have handled so many missing
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Speaker 1: children cases that sometimes when you have a police force
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Speaker 1: that has it dealt with homicides or s for bodies
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Speaker 1: or searching for living children, there's a lot of tricks
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Speaker 1: to the trade. So, Tom Lowie, we know that she
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Speaker 1: was last seen in this location. But was she in
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Speaker 1: or outside of a home? Was she still wearing the
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Speaker 1: same outfit? Was she had a playground, when she had
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Speaker 1: a part, when she had a body of water, she
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Speaker 1: on a hiking trail? Was she attended with an adult?
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Speaker 1: What do we know about the last time that she
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Speaker 1: was seen alive by an independent witness, and we'll start
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Speaker 1: our timeline right there, Tom Lowie, we know very little
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Speaker 1: in fact, and that's been the problem at the start
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Speaker 1: of the case is that she goes over to Henry
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Speaker 1: Earl Dinkins home. It's a home where he was sharing
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Speaker 1: with someone. It's not actually his home. So they go
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Speaker 1: to this progress. Whoa hold on, Tom Lowie right there,
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Speaker 1: Sorry to interrupt you, but the little brother bio dad,
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Speaker 1: Henry Earl Dakins shares the home. You mean he lives
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Speaker 1: with a woman or he has roommates? Who lives in
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Speaker 1: that home? Because he would be a cold day in
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Speaker 1: Hubl that I sent my child somewhere where I didn't
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Speaker 1: know who I was there. Maybe the mom did know?
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Speaker 1: So do we know who lived in the home with
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Speaker 1: Daks would be the first place I looked as who's
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Speaker 1: in the home. That's not clear. That's not clear at
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Speaker 1: this time. And you know what, Tim Lowe, I don't
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Speaker 1: like that either. You think it's a girlfriend. Okay, that
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Speaker 1: statistically is better than having a male roommates as far
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Speaker 1: as looking at crimes, Karen Smith, if it's a girlfriend
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Speaker 1: live in, a fiance a wife in the home, that
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Speaker 1: statistically normalizes the situation as opposed to like three men
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Speaker 1: living together. It's a mess, it's confusing. They're there, they're
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Speaker 1: not there. It's just a whole different scenario. Not to
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Speaker 1: be stereotypical. That's statistically true. Isn't it true to you,
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Speaker 1: Karen Smith that women statistically commit a vast, a vast
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Speaker 1: percentage lower violet crimes than man. Yes, absolutely, Nancy. And
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Speaker 1: my biggest question right now at the start of this
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Speaker 1: investigation is who had Karen control of this child? Was
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Speaker 1: it the possible woman that was living there? Was it
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Speaker 1: Henry Dinkins? Who had Karen control of this child? That
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Speaker 1: is where your timeline starts, and when you have a
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Speaker 1: missing child, the timeline is crucial. When was the last
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Speaker 1: time she was seen? When was the last communication she had?
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Speaker 1: Who saw her? Where was her brother? Was he there
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Speaker 1: as well? These are the questions I start asking. That's
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Speaker 1: a really good question to Tom Lowie, Quad City Times, Davenport, Iowa.
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Speaker 1: Tom is the little boy, the little brother, Okay, has
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Speaker 1: he been accounted for? The little brother is accounted for?
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Speaker 1: Yes he is. That's a big piece of the puzzle,
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Speaker 1: Tom Lollowie, And I'll tell you why. I mean, I'm
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Speaker 1: just analyzing this very objectively. I got a big problem,
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Speaker 1: Jason Oceans, with the fact that nobody can tell me
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Speaker 1: the last time the little girl was seeing alime talking
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Speaker 1: about Breasia Terrell, because the adult male, the stepfather, so
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Speaker 1: to speak, should be able to tell me. I let
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Speaker 1: her go outside to play in the backyard. I let
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Speaker 1: her go jump on the trampoline. I let her and
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Speaker 1: her little brother walk to the seven to eleven one
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Speaker 1: block away. They were at the grandma's. You should be
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Speaker 1: able to tell me. I could tell you, Jason, otions
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Speaker 1: exactly the last time I saw the twins and what
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Speaker 1: they were wearing, all right, right down to their undies.
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Speaker 1: Because I laid him out myself. So what I'm saying is,
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Speaker 1: why can't he tell me the last time he saw
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Speaker 1: the little girl. Why can't anybody tell me exactly who
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Speaker 1: is living in the home, Because in my mind, they're
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Speaker 1: all persons of interest. Jason, Nancy, everybody, I mean spoken
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Speaker 1: like a well prosecutor, seasoned investigator. That's exactly where we're
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Speaker 1: looking at. Where is the custody in control as it
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Speaker 1: was turned over with a brede Asia going over with
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Speaker 1: her brother, who who is now responsible? Who stepped up
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Speaker 1: and said all right, I'm I got it. You know, directing,
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Speaker 1: if you're busy, you're occupied for the moment, who's the
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Speaker 1: responsible adult or you know who's minding them? You know
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Speaker 1: everybody what went on? What was going on there that
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Speaker 1: would allow this young girl to go missing. I'm getting
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Speaker 1: a little clarification right now. Tom lewis joining me quant
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Speaker 1: City Times in Davenport that the dad is now saying
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Speaker 1: he put her to bed and that went he went
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Speaker 1: to get her up, she was gone. That's pretty sadly
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Speaker 1: that's the story. Okay, okay, that is the story. Now
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Speaker 1: we know that children have gone missing from their own
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Speaker 1: homes before, and that would be just to throw it
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Speaker 1: out that everybody knows. Um Elizabeth Smart right, Um Hallyda
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Speaker 1: in Florida, Um Isabel in Texas. I mean salisebe Salise.
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Speaker 1: There are so many daniel wester Westerdam out in California.
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Speaker 1: There there Danielle van Dam missing from their own home.
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Speaker 1: So it does happen statistically, not so much so, of course,
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Speaker 1: to Jason notions, your defense attorney in court, you can't
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Speaker 1: bring in statistics. That is disallowed because you cannot compare
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Speaker 1: an individual case to statistics that have been rounded up
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Speaker 1: across the world. But you and I know, statistically a
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Speaker 1: child does not go missing from their own home. It
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Speaker 1: does happen, but not so much. Agree, disagree, No, No,
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Speaker 1: I agree with you, Nancy. I mean, you know, the
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Speaker 1: statistics are quite telling and give guidance to investigators and
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Speaker 1: sometimes prejudice and what you're looking at, but they generally
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Speaker 1: overall measure out and that becomes the barometer for prosecution
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Speaker 1: and good investigation. It's just a barometer. That's a good
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Speaker 1: way to put a Jason Oceans. It's a barometer because
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Speaker 1: when I hear missing from their own home, I immediately
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Speaker 1: get suspicious of everybody in that home because it's child
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Speaker 1: to just walk out on her own in the middle
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Speaker 1: of the night. Take a listen to our friends at
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Speaker 1: k w q CTV six to a TV six update Now.
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Speaker 1: Davenport Police are giving an update on an eleven year
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Speaker 1: old girl who has been missing for five months. Investigators
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Speaker 1: say they are still working hard to find Breasia Terrell.
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Speaker 1: To date, we've had investigated over one hundred and seventy tips.
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Speaker 1: We have conducted hundreds of interviews as well as served
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Speaker 1: over sixty search warrants along for this investigation in the
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Speaker 1: disappearance of bree Asia. We as investigators, we as officers
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Speaker 1: want nothing less than to bring her home and find Breasia.
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Speaker 1: So again, any any lead, anything that you may think
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Speaker 1: may not be significant, we want to hear from you.
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Speaker 1: Please say tips a slowdown and they need the public's help.
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Speaker 1: If you have any information about the case, please call
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Speaker 1: the tip Black Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we're
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Speaker 1: talking about a little girl disappearing now from her own home,
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Speaker 1: the hung of her. I will charms him as step dad,
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Speaker 1: as Henry Earl Dakins. Take a listen to our whis
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Speaker 1: at k WQC TV six. This is Michael Tilca. The
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Speaker 1: search for missing ten year old bre Asia Terrell continues
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Speaker 1: entering day three on Sunday. She was last seeing Friday
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Speaker 1: morning in the twenty seven hundred block of East fifty
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Speaker 1: third Street, wearing a white T shirt, flip flops and shorts.
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Speaker 1: As the search for her were about grows more desperate
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Speaker 1: by the moment, her mother says, no tip is too small.
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Speaker 1: I don't know anything and if anyone can help me,
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Speaker 1: it can be the smallest Dezza you may think. Friday afternoon,
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Speaker 1: authorities focused in on the lagoon at Credit Island with
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Speaker 1: a boat on the water and investigators nearby. Family gathered
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Speaker 1: looking on. Police declined to say what brought them there
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Speaker 1: or whether foul play is involved Intorell's case. Again, we're
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Speaker 1: working with the family on potential areas that she may
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Speaker 1: be or may have been with friends and those kind
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Speaker 1: of things. So we're checking different areas and we're going
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Speaker 1: to continue again working with the family until we come
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Speaker 1: up the little Girl lagoon at Credit Island. They didn't
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Speaker 1: just decide to go search a lagoon. Something led the
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Speaker 1: police to that lagoon. With me special guest Tom Lowie,
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Speaker 1: Quad City Times, Davenport, Iowa. Tell me about the terrain
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Speaker 1: surrounding Denkins, Henry ear Old Dnkins, the stepdad home, and
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Speaker 1: the proximity from his home to the lagoon at Credit Island.
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Speaker 1: Imagine Davenport sitting on the Mississippi River, and much of
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Speaker 1: Davenport sits up on a hill, so you drive down
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Speaker 1: the hill and you're on the Mississippi River. Credit Island
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Speaker 1: is a more remote portion of Davenport. It is pretty
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Speaker 1: heavily wooded for the most part, and it just it's
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Speaker 1: kind of a peninsula that shuts out on the Mississippi
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Speaker 1: River and in the in the island. Contained within the
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Speaker 1: island is a separate lagoon, and it is fed by
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Speaker 1: the Mississippi River. But there's a there's an area that's
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Speaker 1: enclosed by land that is water. So you want to
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Speaker 1: imagine Davenport is part of a metroplex, so it's it's
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Speaker 1: a heavily populated area, but Credit Island is a more
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Speaker 1: remote portion of the city near the near the city border,
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Speaker 1: you know, near the city line. I'm liking everything you're saying, Tomalodie,
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Speaker 1: because you're giving me information that I didn't know what's
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Speaker 1: flying through my mind. Tomalodie. I just took the twins
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Speaker 1: on an RV trip across the country because of COVID.
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Speaker 1: No hotels, no people, no restaurants. And one of the
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Speaker 1: things we did was went to the confluence where the Mississi,
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Speaker 1: the mighty Mississippi meets the muddy Missouri right there, and
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Speaker 1: we had to hike through. I mean, I needed a
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Speaker 1: machete to get to where we were going, dragging the
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Speaker 1: twins with me. In fact, it was so dense. At
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Speaker 1: one point we turned around like this may be reckless
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Speaker 1: of me. Dragging them through this, and then they wanted
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Speaker 1: to go so badly. We went back and we found it.
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Speaker 1: But that's what's going through my mind. And if you
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Speaker 1: don't mind, Tom, tell me, how would you get from
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Speaker 1: his place, Henry Earl Dacon's place too, the lagoon a
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Speaker 1: Credit Isla. Would you have to take a watercraft to
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Speaker 1: get there? Or is there a bridge? No? Actually so,
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Speaker 1: so the it's it's also a park area, so it's
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Speaker 1: it's got heavily wooded and grassed areas, but it's also
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Speaker 1: a park area where some of that's cleared out, and
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Speaker 1: there's a there's a ringed road that takes you in
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Speaker 1: us in a ring around the around Credit Island and
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Speaker 1: in fact around the lagoon, so it is easily accessed
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Speaker 1: by car by vehicle and then to get into the
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Speaker 1: wooded areas or to go down to the lagoon. So
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Speaker 1: on one side you have the lagoon and essentially on
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Speaker 1: the other side of the road the Mississippi is flowing by.
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Speaker 1: So it's um if you can imagine a ring kind
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Speaker 1: of situation, and and in that area, in some of
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Speaker 1: those areas, like on the outer part of the ring,
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Speaker 1: there are wooded heavily wooded areas and then a lot
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Speaker 1: of tall grass is what you'll find. So it's a
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Speaker 1: partially finished, kind of crudely developed area. It's got some
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Speaker 1: shelter areas where there's picnic benches. I'm sure you're familiar
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Speaker 1: with those kind of developments, right And you tell me
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Speaker 1: a lot of good information right there as well, because
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Speaker 1: I now know that Credit Island and this lagoon is
22:17
Speaker 1: accessible by vehicle, which makes sense a lot more of
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Speaker 1: a possibility of a dumping ground. And I hain't even
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Speaker 1: put her name bree Asia in the same sense of
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Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace. Take a listen to Police Chief
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Speaker 1: Paul Sikorski with the Davenport, Iowa PD. We have identified
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Speaker 1: Henry E. Dinkins as a person of interest related to
24:17
Speaker 1: this case. A person of interest is different than a
24:22
Speaker 1: name suspect. A person of interest is someone who has
24:27
Speaker 1: not been arrested or formally charged in this case, but
24:31
Speaker 1: may have information that could assist with the investigation or
24:36
Speaker 1: possess certain characteristics that merit further attention by our investigators.
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Speaker 1: Dinkins is currently in custody on other charges related to
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Speaker 1: a sex offender registry violation. We are asking the public's
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Speaker 1: assistance today for any information regarding Dinkins and associated vehicles
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Speaker 1: during the time frame of Thursday, July ninth, from ten
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Speaker 1: pm to Friday July tenth at twelve noon. Right now,
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Speaker 1: I just almost feel physically sick. Back to Tom Lowe
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Speaker 1: quat City Times, Davenport, Iowa reporter with me Karen Smith,
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Speaker 1: doctor Angela Arnold, and Jason Oceans. Tom, So, the step
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Speaker 1: dad of sorts is a sex offender? What kind of
25:32
Speaker 1: sex offender? It is clear that he is someone who
25:38
Speaker 1: has had a lot of trouble with the law. It
25:43
Speaker 1: is a sex offense against a young person. It was
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Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety, so we're talking a couple of decades ago.
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Speaker 1: It is clear that at his status as a sex offender.
26:04
Speaker 1: I should say, it's not clear if his status as
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Speaker 1: a sex offender was why we known. It was known
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Speaker 1: by Asia's mother, It was none by Breeasia's mother. Yes, ma'am.
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Speaker 1: Okay too, you, Doctor Angela Arnold. As much as I
26:22
Speaker 1: want to come down on the mom right now, do
26:26
Speaker 1: you find people lull themselves into a false sense of security, Well,
26:33
Speaker 1: of course they do. That's why I have I believe
26:37
Speaker 1: that that's why the mother let the little girl go
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Speaker 1: over there. I would love to know how many times
26:42
Speaker 1: she's gone over there before, wouldn't you? Is this just
26:45
Speaker 1: a typical behavior that she just goes and spend the
26:48
Speaker 1: night with her little brother. You know that's a really
26:51
Speaker 1: good that's a really good question. A yeah, yeah, she
26:56
Speaker 1: may have discounted it. And another thing, you know this
26:59
Speaker 1: Jason oshs Or defense attorney. Guys, we're talking about a
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Speaker 1: missing little ten year old girl, Briasia Terrell. The person
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Speaker 1: of interest her stepfather, as I am calling him, Henry
27:09
Speaker 1: Earl Dinkins. He is the biological father brie Asia's little brother,
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Speaker 1: and the mom let her go visit, which she may
27:16
Speaker 1: have done in the past. Jason Ocean's defense attorney joining
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Speaker 1: me out of New York. Jason, I remember trying to
27:22
Speaker 1: get a hold of a defense attorney about emotions calendar
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Speaker 1: the following Monday morning, It's about six o'clock on Friday
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Speaker 1: in a woman answer the phone. I'm like, look, I
27:31
Speaker 1: gotta find him. I gotta find him now because he's
27:32
Speaker 1: got to be in court eight am Monday morning. And
27:35
Speaker 1: I told the judge to try to reach him. Where
27:37
Speaker 1: is he? Uh, guess where he was? He was at
27:40
Speaker 1: a strip bar with his clients, his dope clients, the
27:43
Speaker 1: Magic City. Yeah, And you know what, you hang around
27:48
Speaker 1: with people and suddenly they seem normal to you. There
27:53
Speaker 1: was this upstanding lawyer with a bunch of dopers at
27:55
Speaker 1: a strip club. Not judging the strip club, a judging
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Speaker 1: the dopers. But Jason, when you're around your clients, you
28:04
Speaker 1: gotta be careful. You gotta be really careful that their
28:08
Speaker 1: norm doesn't become your normal. Well that's so too, Nancy.
28:13
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, years of defense and having been
28:17
Speaker 1: on the prosecution side for a year, Uh, you understand that.
28:22
Speaker 1: And you know your guard is always up. There's always
28:25
Speaker 1: that spidy sense tekling about something. The interesting thing though,
28:29
Speaker 1: about the arrest back and you know, the indictment and
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Speaker 1: conviction back in the nineties for the sex offense. Usually,
28:37
Speaker 1: recidivism in sex offenders particularly happens at a high rate
28:42
Speaker 1: within six months to a year. Um, you know, love
28:46
Speaker 1: to see the rest of that criminal arrest record, relic.
28:49
Speaker 1: I know a little bit more about it, Jason. I
28:52
Speaker 1: know a little bit more about it, and this may,
28:55
Speaker 1: this may really paint the entire picture with a different stroke.
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Speaker 1: I know that Dinkins, a registered sex offender, was convicted
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Speaker 1: at age seventeen. He was detained, but he sex abused
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Speaker 1: a female victim under age thirteen. Now that's a big difference.
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Speaker 1: Seventeen sixteen, seventeen fifteen. Ah, it's still bad. But under thirteen,
29:18
Speaker 1: that's twelve year old little girl at best. Guys, take
29:22
Speaker 1: a listen to Davenport, Iowa PD press conference. This is
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Speaker 1: police Chief Paul Skorsky. We're learning more. We are requesting
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Speaker 1: any information the public may have on Dinkins whereabouts in
29:33
Speaker 1: the Quad Cities area during that time frame. He is
29:39
Speaker 1: also known to have previous connections to the Commanche and
29:43
Speaker 1: Clinton area. Vehicles associated with Dinkins include a two thousand
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Speaker 1: and seven maroon Chevy Impala, two twelve black Chevy Camaro,
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Speaker 1: and in nineteen eighties King's Highway motor home. All of
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Speaker 1: these vehicles are currently impounded and in the possession of investigators.
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Speaker 1: If the public has any information regarding the whereabouts of
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Speaker 1: Dinkins or these vehicles between the time frames that I mentioned,
30:17
Speaker 1: So between the hours of ten pm on Thursday July
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Speaker 1: ninth and noon Friday July tenth, we asked they call
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Speaker 1: nine one immediately to share this information with investigators. Karen
30:31
Speaker 1: Smith joining me from LA forensics expert host of Shattered Souls.
30:35
Speaker 1: Karen Smith, what the police shape just said is scary, man.
30:38
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. Remember the little girl I told
30:40
Speaker 1: you that was stolen from her home in California while
30:42
Speaker 1: her parents slept by the way. They were right there
30:44
Speaker 1: down the hall, Danielle van Dam the stubble on the name.
30:50
Speaker 1: The defendant was David Westerfield, who was a neighbor, and
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Speaker 1: he took the little girl, molested and killed her in
30:59
Speaker 1: his motor hume his RV and having just come off
31:03
Speaker 1: an RV trip, I would go walking with the twins
31:07
Speaker 1: while John David rode his bike and all these RV parks.
31:10
Speaker 1: I did not let them go out by themselves, of course,
31:13
Speaker 1: and I got to know the look of a lot
31:15
Speaker 1: of RVs. They stick with you when you see them.
31:21
Speaker 1: But I want your take as a forensics expert based
31:24
Speaker 1: on knowing they're looking at a lagoon that they've impounded
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Speaker 1: these three vehicles, and now they're asking the public, have
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Speaker 1: you seen these three vehicles and where did you see them?
31:36
Speaker 1: Analyze that information for me, Karen Smith, forensically, that tells
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Speaker 1: me a lot. Yeah, and tells me a lot too.
31:44
Speaker 1: Let's start with the lagoon area. I was going through
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Speaker 1: some photos of photojournalists were taking while the investigators were there,
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Speaker 1: and one stood out to me. There was a photo
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Speaker 1: that showed an investigator bending over what looks like a tripod. Now,
31:58
Speaker 1: when you bring out a tripod in your crime scene,
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Speaker 1: that to me screams either shoe impressions or tire impressions.
32:04
Speaker 1: It didn't look like a vehicle could get down in
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Speaker 1: this area, so it's probably shoe impressions in that area.
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Speaker 1: There's class characteristics the brands aside identifying characteristics, these are accidental,
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Speaker 1: unpredictable results like wear patterns and defects in the shoes.
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Speaker 1: So if they're photographing shoe impressions, that's a good possibility
32:23
Speaker 1: that could lead them forensically to a shoe or a
32:27
Speaker 1: tire track. Now that they have all three of these vehicles, impounded.
32:31
Speaker 1: If they do have tire tracks in that area, they
32:33
Speaker 1: can go back and do comparisons with the tires, the
32:35
Speaker 1: width of the wheelbase, the type of tire, the tread pattern,
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Speaker 1: things like that. They're also going to be looking in
32:41
Speaker 1: those vehicles for any I mean forensic evidence. Here your
32:46
Speaker 1: broad blanket. You've got everything from DNA to hair's fibers, fingerprints,
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Speaker 1: dirt that may be caked on the undercarriage and in
32:55
Speaker 1: the tires. So they're really going to have to go
32:57
Speaker 1: through all three of those vehicles with a fine too comb.
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Speaker 1: You know, the fact that they're searching this lagoon. They're
33:04
Speaker 1: putting out the description of the vehicles down to the
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Speaker 1: collar that make the model and asking where you've seen them.
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Speaker 1: The vehicles, including the motor home, are all in impound,
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Speaker 1: which tells me they've been processed. Did cops find something
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Speaker 1: in those vehicles that make them believe Rasia was killed
33:27
Speaker 1: or transported or molested in one of those three vehicles?
33:32
Speaker 1: And if cops can find out where the vehicles were spotted,
33:36
Speaker 1: then they can find this child dead or alive. Way
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Speaker 1: in Karen Smith, that's exactly right. Anything that links Braejia
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Speaker 1: Terrell with the last known operator of those vehicles. They're
33:48
Speaker 1: going to be looking forward in that car. They're going
33:50
Speaker 1: to have to spray. Unfortunately, they're going to have to
33:52
Speaker 1: spray Alomino and you and I know what that means.
33:54
Speaker 1: You know, there's all kinds of things that they're going
33:57
Speaker 1: to have to do with a fine tooth combography, light sources.
34:02
Speaker 1: It may be a very very small piece of evidence,
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Speaker 1: a hair, for all we know, that could link bree
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Speaker 1: Asia with one of those vehicles. And if they are impounded,
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Speaker 1: it either means they have already processed them or they're
34:14
Speaker 1: just waiting in line, because it takes time to go
34:17
Speaker 1: through each vehicle. It's not like a one and done.
34:19
Speaker 1: It does take time to go through a vehicle like that.
34:22
Speaker 1: And not only that, it depends on just thinking about
34:25
Speaker 1: the Jennifer Dulo's case. Okay, then missing Connecticut mom of
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Speaker 1: five her hair found in the back seat of her
34:33
Speaker 1: estranged husband's employees vehicle. Why why would her hair be
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Speaker 1: in the back seat of an employee's vehicle. So it's
34:44
Speaker 1: not just finding bre Asia's hair or some type of
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Speaker 1: DNA touch DNA in the vehicle, or she may have
34:51
Speaker 1: innocently been to go to the store or to go
34:54
Speaker 1: to a restaurant, but where it's located. Is it in
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Speaker 1: the trunk? Why would her hair be in the truck?
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Speaker 1: Those are what cops are looking for, those three impound
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Speaker 1: vehicles to Tabalow. He joining me Quad City Times Davenport, Iowa.
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Speaker 1: Tell me about the search and that's being conducted for
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Speaker 1: Briasia Terrell. Okay, so there so far the search has
35:16
Speaker 1: been very much centered on Credit Island and a place
35:20
Speaker 1: called Fedgervarry Park, which is a park area up on
35:24
Speaker 1: the hill in Davenport, kind of up from the river.
35:28
Speaker 1: And it's not clear why Fedjervarry Park. I've been told
35:35
Speaker 1: by the mother that it was a place where he
35:39
Speaker 1: might have gone at other times. So they were kind
35:44
Speaker 1: of looking at places that he was familiar with. But
35:47
Speaker 1: that's the extent of And then just down from Credit Island.
35:51
Speaker 1: Credit Island is on what's called River Drive and there
35:54
Speaker 1: was an area on River Drive and Concord, which is
35:57
Speaker 1: just down from Credit Island. There was some search going
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Speaker 1: on there. As far as we know, police have not commented,
36:05
Speaker 1: but certainly bree Asia wasn't found there. You find that
36:10
Speaker 1: perps hide bodies and evidence or retreat to a place
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Speaker 1: that is familiar to them. So what you just said
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Speaker 1: is incredible, incredibly probative. The tip line for this little
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Speaker 1: girl three zero nine seven six two ninety five hundred.
36:27
Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends at k w QCTV six.
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Speaker 1: The case of a missing Davenport girl is getting new
36:33
Speaker 1: exposure tonight thanks to the FBI. Breasia Terrell turns eleventh
36:37
Speaker 1: and the FBI Field Office in Omaha has posted her
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Speaker 1: photo to its Twitter page and they're asking people for
36:43
Speaker 1: any information in the case and reminding the public that
36:46
Speaker 1: there is a ten thousand dollars reward. Darrell went missing
36:49
Speaker 1: nearly five months ago. We wait and pray as justice unfolds.
36:55
Speaker 1: Nancy Grace crime story signing off goodbye friend