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Luke’s Diner: Kindred Spirits with Kate · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in again.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I am all in again with Scott Patterson in
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  Speaker 2: iHeartRadio podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Hi, Ky, how are you? Nice to meet?
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  Speaker 3: You nice to meet? You have to go on.
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  Speaker 1: It's going, and you know it's going as good as
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  Speaker 1: a ken for a Phillies fan like me, you know
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  Speaker 1: how that goes.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know you're a Phillillies fan.
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  Speaker 1: I'm born in Phillies, raised all those decades of frustration.
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  Speaker 3: Wait, wait, sorry, where are you from?
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  Speaker 1: I was born in Philadelphia and I was raised in
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  Speaker 1: South Jersey.
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  Speaker 3: Fantastic. I just came from Ocean City and we were
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  Speaker 3: in Finland in Tuckaho.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I spent many many summers in Ocean City.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, that's all.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 3: What a season.
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  Speaker 4: I love this season of the Phillies, and I what
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  Speaker 4: a brutal ending to an amazing, amazing year.
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  Speaker 1: You know, their problem was this organization. They didn't play
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  Speaker 1: Weston Wilson enough or at all. They didn't get many
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  Speaker 1: at bats in the playoffs. And that's a breakout star. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's a breakout power hitter star you know, waiting to happen,
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  Speaker 1: and they didn't give him a shot. Dude, I'm sick
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  Speaker 1: of watching guys. I'm just so sick of watching guys
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  Speaker 1: strike out in the big looks. I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 1: care how hard these guys are throwing. They're not throwing strikes.
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  Speaker 1: Just take all these pitches. Take the pitches, bunt, slap
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  Speaker 1: the ball the other way, play some small ball when
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  Speaker 1: you get over yourselves. None of you were Babe Ruth,
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  Speaker 1: you're not Mickey Manple, You're not Ted Williams. And get
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  Speaker 1: on base. And that's all I have to say that.
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  Speaker 4: I was at the game where Kyle forber Shober hit
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  Speaker 4: four home runs the last home game I went to,
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  Speaker 4: and boy, that was something I have to say. If
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  Speaker 4: I get hit by a car for real, I'm good.
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  Speaker 3: I'm really that was it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, But I mean, at the end of the season,
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  Speaker 1: it's like you're you're playing a small market team and
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  Speaker 1: all their minor U league arms are up there and
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna hit four home runs off them, So what
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  Speaker 1: you know. So it's like these guys, I'm sorry, if
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  Speaker 1: you strike out two hundred times a year, your value
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  Speaker 1: goes down. I don't get it. I don't get it right,
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  Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't get it how that's
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  Speaker 1: acceptable where you strike out rate is thirty three percent. Well,
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  Speaker 1: thirty three percent, Kate, Kate. If you and I walked
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  Speaker 1: onto a set and one third of the time we
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  Speaker 1: couldn't nail the scene, we couldn't get it right, we
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  Speaker 1: kept dropping our lunch, we'd be gone.
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  Speaker 4: Although, how many times of the audition for stuff and
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  Speaker 4: didn't get it? I mean those percentages are pretty high
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  Speaker 4: for me.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, oh no, I agree in the beginning shore the
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  Speaker 1: first couple of years, but then you learn, right. I
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  Speaker 1: went on like one hundred audition hitting streak where I
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  Speaker 1: was just like hitting the ball of the park, but
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't scoring.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I still don't score sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: Still, Oh yeah, it's it's so hard many.
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  Speaker 3: Times, many times this close close. They love you.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know how people get jobs. It's so
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  Speaker 1: hard to get a job. I don't know how people
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  Speaker 1: do it.
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  Speaker 3: It is.
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  Speaker 4: That's why I kept my restaurant job through the first
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  Speaker 4: season of the Office, because I was like, we have
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  Speaker 4: a short season, Like, dude, it.
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  Speaker 3: Was it was six hours. I was like, I'm not quitting.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not starting a new job if this doesn't work out,
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  Speaker 4: cover my shifts during the week and work my Sunday brunch.
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  Speaker 3: I gotta do what you gotta do.
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  Speaker 1: I stayed in my I had a little rent. I
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  Speaker 1: had stayed in a little rent control apartment in West
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  Speaker 1: Hollywood for the first three years at Gilmore. My nut
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  Speaker 1: was you know, my nut monthly for everything, for rent,
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  Speaker 1: for you know, gus, for food, whatever. I mean, it
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  Speaker 1: was under like eight hundred bucks a month.
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  Speaker 3: That's how you do it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I look very yeah, like keep the
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  Speaker 4: overhead load. That's part of the of the magic, you know,
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  Speaker 4: that's how you do it. I think these kids that
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  Speaker 4: are like living over their means and putting stuff on
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  Speaker 4: credit cards and thinking one jobs gonna save me.
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  Speaker 3: No, you're screwed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. There are people that get their first series and
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  Speaker 1: they buy a beach house in Malibu on credit.
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  Speaker 4: Or people buy a big house the last year of
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  Speaker 4: their series and then like oh no. And then my
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  Speaker 4: whole thing is like when you're ending, you gotta batten
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  Speaker 4: down the hatches. It's graduation time, Like, uh, get take
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  Speaker 4: a reality pill.
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  Speaker 1: You you really do?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 1: No, yeah, yeah, yeah. One day you're hitting four home runs,
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  Speaker 1: the next day you're striking out five times.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you gotta know you gotta gotta know when
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  Speaker 4: to wet your hair like like Marsh and go.
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  Speaker 3: That guy guy, what's going on? I love him at
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  Speaker 3: least such a weirdo. I love him.
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  Speaker 2: You know what?
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  Speaker 1: He was hitting really well that last part of the season,
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  Speaker 1: wasn't he He was? He was on fire.
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  Speaker 3: He was dude. That wet hair is no joke. He
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  Speaker 3: was just That's It's.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of he should he should have. At least
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  Speaker 1: he should have a water deal with somebody. He should
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  Speaker 1: have like Fijis it should.
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  Speaker 4: Write him, even Crystal guys ourselves, come on, let's go.
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  Speaker 1: Some local Philly water thing or the or the Water
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  Speaker 1: and Powered Department Philadelphia should sign who the hell knows? Right,
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  Speaker 1: Peate Flannery, we are welcoming you today to my podcast,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, you are many things. You're an actors, singer, writer.
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  Speaker 1: You're known as Meredith. Uh from Is that your name
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  Speaker 1: on the office? Yeah, it was right, Meredith from the Office.
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  Speaker 4: No, I prefer Meredith the drunk from the office.
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  Speaker 1: You got okay, And you're touring with Jane Lynch in
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  Speaker 1: a Swinging Little Christmas. She's got some great stories to
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  Speaker 1: her waitressing days, her diner roots. Of course, because you
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  Speaker 1: know that's what we grew up in in that part
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  Speaker 1: of the country and her close Skilmore Girl's connection through
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  Speaker 1: our friend rose Up. I'm thrilled to have her here
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  Speaker 1: on Luke's Diner, the One and Only and I formerly
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  Speaker 1: introducer Mss Kate Flannery. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Hold your applause,
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  Speaker 1: Hold your applause. All right, So you grew up Kate?
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  Speaker 1: You did? You did? You grew up in the diner
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  Speaker 1: culture of the seventies and eighties and nineties, right, and
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  Speaker 1: what do you remember most about that ear in Philadelphia?
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  Speaker 1: Did you box the counter refills, the coffee refills, the
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  Speaker 1: late night food? What tell us about that? Because I
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  Speaker 1: grew up in that same culture. I'm from that area.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I felt like it was something as
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  Speaker 4: a kid, like being in high school. You could figure
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  Speaker 4: it out, you know, you could figure out how to
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  Speaker 4: get like, you.
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  Speaker 3: Could go it.
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  Speaker 4: It was it was like an affordable but it was
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  Speaker 4: a culture.
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  Speaker 3: That's what we did.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I have to get we go for breakfast
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  Speaker 4: like after practice, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Playing sports and stuff like. It was a treat. But
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  Speaker 3: then it was also like your first sense of independence.
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  Speaker 4: You got to go to the diner. You know, nobody's
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  Speaker 4: worried about you. You're just at the diner.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like.
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  Speaker 4: You're at Manila's, like on Lanter Avenue, what's the big
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  Speaker 4: or you're on the Black Horse Pike on the way
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  Speaker 4: to the shore stopping at a diner.
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  Speaker 3: He eats her Harley Dawn.
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  Speaker 4: Which was like an old house that had like a
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  Speaker 4: little you know, homemade I mean at the menus or
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  Speaker 4: fourteen pages. You want to get chicken croquettes. Well maybe
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  Speaker 4: it's as big as your face. I don't know, maybe
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  Speaker 4: they're just small, but they're great. You know, get get breakfast,
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  Speaker 4: Get a corn muffin, you know what I'm talking about, right,
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  Speaker 4: get some jail.
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  Speaker 1: There are diners all the way down to the shore.
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  Speaker 1: Now South Jersey kids and Philadelphia kids. So the Philadelphia
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  Speaker 1: kids would usually go to like the inner city kids
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  Speaker 1: right in South Philadelphia back in the day with solid
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  Speaker 1: Italian they go to wild Wood, they go to Atlanta
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  Speaker 1: ylk City, Right, they.
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  Speaker 3: Still do they still do? They still do?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, still do. Right. And if you're from South Jersey, right,
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  Speaker 1: or you're from the main Line, whatever, you would go
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  Speaker 1: to Ocean City, Cape May.
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  Speaker 4: Totally totally even Long Beach Islands, or Venor or Margate, Longport, right.
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  Speaker 3: You know, no, you know what I'm talking about. Ocean
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  Speaker 3: City and Jay, not.
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  Speaker 1: Maryland to be right and Jay. Yeah, best beaches in
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  Speaker 1: the world. There's nothing to compare. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: got about walk, best food, best people, best salt water taffy,
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  Speaker 1: best pizza, best best rides. I'll take it any any day. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: but now, but now, so I go back. I hadn't
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  Speaker 1: been back in a while. So I went back in
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  Speaker 1: like twenty seventeen, and I hadn't been back in a while.
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  Speaker 1: And we go to the beach. We go to Ocean City.
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  Speaker 1: I start walking onto the beach, or at least the trail,
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  Speaker 1: the sandy trail that leads to the beach, because we're
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  Speaker 1: on the boardwalk, and we went down try to get
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  Speaker 1: on the beach. Somebody there saying you gotta buy you
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  Speaker 1: gotta buy a pass to get on the beach. Just
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  Speaker 1: get the hell out of the way.
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  Speaker 3: So we just like a beach tag, I know, a
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  Speaker 3: beach tag.
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  Speaker 1: We literally sat there and argued with her, like, what
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  Speaker 1: are you talking about. You can't sell beach tags. This
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  Speaker 1: is this is public this is public property. You can't
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  Speaker 1: charge us to go on the beach, but they can,
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  Speaker 1: they do, they do.
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  Speaker 3: You can go, you can go before they checked the
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  Speaker 3: beat bags. You can go after.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we had like our our you know, if
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  Speaker 4: we had a lot of friends like we you know,
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  Speaker 4: figure out our ways going to the boardwalk, like there's
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  Speaker 4: ways of getting around it. But when they start coming
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  Speaker 4: in a pack to check everybody on the beach, you
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  Speaker 4: could act like you're asleep.
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  Speaker 3: That used to work not so much anymore.
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  Speaker 1: That is not not the Jersey way. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: where they get this idea, but that's not the Jersey
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  Speaker 1: I remember, you know, kidding me?
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  Speaker 3: I know, I know. Actually in Ocean City it started
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  Speaker 3: in seventy six. Yeah, it was brutal. I remember the
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  Speaker 3: year it started. I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I don't remember caring as much better. Yeah, in Ocean
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  Speaker 4: City it did.
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  Speaker 3: Can you believe that? Yeah? Brutal?
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  Speaker 1: Huh.
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  Speaker 3: But you know everybody's got an angle. They're like, i'bout
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  Speaker 3: work it out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah all right. Well you said you're not a huge cook,
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  Speaker 1: But do you have a go to like cowboys steak
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  Speaker 1: recipe something like that. What's a secret is it? Cowboys steaks?
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  Speaker 3: About?
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  Speaker 1: Tell me about it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's about butter and beef and this amazing rub
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  Speaker 4: that you can make yourself.
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  Speaker 3: Sounds dirty, but it's not.
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  Speaker 4: Uh yeah, it's it's half a cup of coffee beans,
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  Speaker 4: half cup pepper corns, just maybe a quarter cup sugar,
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  Speaker 4: and then quarter pound, sorry, a quarter cup of kosher salt,
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  Speaker 4: and you put it in a pepper grinder and then
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  Speaker 4: that becomes your that's your that's your special secret weapon.
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  Speaker 3: Like that's it. So you sear sear the steak.
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  Speaker 4: In butter on both sides in a pan, and then
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  Speaker 4: you put it on the plate with this stuff and
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  Speaker 4: just make sure the rub gets everywhere.
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  Speaker 3: And then you put in the oven and it's it's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: It is ridiculous. You could put the crappiest piece of
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  Speaker 3: meat into this system and you're going to be in heaven.
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  Speaker 3: It is. It's a great little trick.
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  Speaker 1: Did you learn that at Kate Manalini's.
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  Speaker 3: I did not.
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  Speaker 4: My boyfriend, who's an NBC photographer, he taught me that
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  Speaker 4: he cooks more than I do. We actually met on
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  Speaker 4: the office and we've been together for nineteen years.
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  Speaker 3: We don't live together. We're happy. It's fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: Man I tell you that is smart.
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  Speaker 4: But I used to work at Kate Madeleine Restaurant in
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  Speaker 4: Beverly Hills. That's the job that I worked there for
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  Speaker 4: seven and a half years on and off because I
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  Speaker 4: was in New York doing a show for a little
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  Speaker 4: bit during that time, but took a leave of absence
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  Speaker 4: covered my shifts and then you know, the first season
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  Speaker 4: of The Office, I you know, I still kept the
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  Speaker 4: job because I was I was afraid we weren't going
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  Speaker 4: to get a season season two pickups, so I didn't
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  Speaker 4: want to start a new job.
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  Speaker 3: So I waited on a lot of famous people.
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  Speaker 4: And even though it was kind of a fancy restaurant,
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  Speaker 4: my dad always called it the Diner because we.
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  Speaker 3: Had diner hours. We literally were there at five thirty
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  Speaker 3: the morning breakfast ship you had just when you first
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  Speaker 3: started the job, you had to work breakfast and it
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  Speaker 3: was like five thirty. You know. The place works from like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like six to six to.
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  Speaker 4: Like eleven, and then you worked lunch and then they
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  Speaker 4: would have a dinner and late night.
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  Speaker 3: On the weekends.
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  Speaker 4: When I first started, they were there till four in
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  Speaker 4: the morning, so you'd come in at eleven.
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  Speaker 3: And you'd work till four in the morning, and it
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  Speaker 3: got pretty shady in Beverly Hills.
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  Speaker 4: At four o'clock in the morning, there was too much
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  Speaker 4: like damage, so they kind of stopped that. It kind
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  Speaker 4: of became a little dangerous, you know, so it went
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  Speaker 4: back to two o'clock. So yeah, but still it was
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  Speaker 4: it was. But the breakfast was world class and uh,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you could get a you could get diner
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  Speaker 4: type stuff. You know, they had great lentil soup and
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  Speaker 4: great bread and you know great, it's just like great basics.
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  Speaker 1: That's a fancy, fancy actor agent meeting place, producer actor
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  Speaker 1: agent meeting place. It was like, there was that place
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  Speaker 1: in Beverly Hills, Like, right, what was that little what
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  Speaker 1: was that little place in Beverly Hills. Have you ever
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  Speaker 1: been in that place? God name will come to me,
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  Speaker 1: But it's like it's just this small little place you
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  Speaker 1: walk into and then it opens up a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: But it's like it's it's like we're all the power players.
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  Speaker 3: We well, Kate Madalini was a power player.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: That was right across from bristein Gray Academy. So every
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  Speaker 4: time I remember, we'd have to be there super early
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  Speaker 4: the day that they would announce the Academy Awards. Because
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  Speaker 4: when they would announce nominees, we'd have to be in
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  Speaker 4: at four thirty because they would announce four thirty am.
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  Speaker 3: We'd go.
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  Speaker 4: They would make the announcement, and they'd walk a block
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  Speaker 4: to our restaurant and they'd all drink Bloody Mary's and
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  Speaker 4: have breakfast and you know, keep.
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  Speaker 3: Patting themselves on the back. It's fun, you know, it
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  Speaker 3: was kind of fun. You felt like you were a
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  Speaker 3: sort of part of history.
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  Speaker 4: If you worked to Oscar night, people would come in
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  Speaker 4: and have their oscars on the table.
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  Speaker 1: You know, right, good tippers? Were they good tippers in general?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: You know, sure, sure, sure. So I heard through the
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  Speaker 1: grape find that you're a Gilmore fan and that you
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  Speaker 1: actually know a lot of the casts, including Rose app
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  Speaker 1: do play Gypsy. How far back do you two go?
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  Speaker 3: I think I've known Rose.
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  Speaker 4: I mean I came to check out Second City in
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  Speaker 4: nineteen eighty eight when my favorite aunt gave me a
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  Speaker 4: ticket to check it out.
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  Speaker 3: She lived in Chicago and I just graduated.
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  Speaker 4: From from college and Rose was there, and we knew
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  Speaker 4: each other a little bit in Chicago, like we liked
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  Speaker 4: each other, but we weren't exactly in the same circles,
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  Speaker 4: even though we were both in the second city.
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  Speaker 3: She was a little higher up.
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  Speaker 4: In the food chain there when I started there, and
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  Speaker 4: I was also at the Annoyance Theater, so I was
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  Speaker 4: kind of double dipping with more than one place. And
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  Speaker 4: then I think, you know, maybe a few years into
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  Speaker 4: the office, we started to get I started to get
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  Speaker 4: really close with her because we had so much in common.
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  Speaker 4: I always feel like she had good taste. I always
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  Speaker 4: feel like she liked the things I liked. And she
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  Speaker 4: also like she agreed with me with the people that
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  Speaker 4: were douchebags. So I like that about her. Uh huh.
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  Speaker 3: Not everybody agrees about the douchebags, you know. So I
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  Speaker 3: love that guy. I'm like, do you okay? Great?
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  Speaker 1: I got turned up. Did you ever visit the set?
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  Speaker 3: I did not.
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  Speaker 1: No, never came by.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 3: I knew alex Forstein too.
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  Speaker 4: I used to do shows with her at ACME, this
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  Speaker 4: crazy Saturday night show, and then she did I had
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  Speaker 4: a comedy act called the Lampshades that I did for years,
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  Speaker 4: and she did our show at the Aspen Comedy Festival
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  Speaker 4: for a couple of characters, and so I knew Jackson.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, well, so yeah, I know a few people.
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  Speaker 4: And of course, like I had met Melissa a few
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: times at auditions. I used to see her, which she
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: mopped up the floor with all of us all the time. Anyway,
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: even back then, and then Jay Lynch was on the
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: show and I met Kelly Bishop. I cornered her at
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: an airport lounge in Newark.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: I'm sure she loved that.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Tell us how special Melissa is because we were not
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: prepared for her characters and her performance at the ground
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: leaks when we went to see her as the cast
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: year I think it was the first season. Yeah, and
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: then she came out and she did like she had
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: four skits that she did that she wrote. I mean,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: we were, we were actually we needed to leave because
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: our sides hurt so much from laughing.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: She is so fearless, right.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, she understands how to control an audience,
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: like she just keeps going.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: She's amazing, She's amazing.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Eh, yeah, we were, we were blown away. That ain't
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: no accident. That career, that's not an accident. That's that's
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: just skill and talent and hard work, reparation.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: And right, absolutely, and I knew Lauren Graham a little
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: bit because we had a mutual friend in Sam Pancake.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: I think Sam did your Netflix. He was on work
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: during the netflik, Yeah, which.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: Of course Rose up due did two parts in the
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: Netflix era Gypsy, of course, as she did in the original,
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: and then she was Birdie, the Kelly Bishop's maid. Spoke
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: a language that no one else knew but Rose.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's talk about that Luke's Diner. Yeah,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: since you grew up around diners, I grew up around diners,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: remember Ponzios and Cherry Hill. Did you ever go to
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: I passed it?
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: I don't think I ever.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: I just passed the Penrose Diner last week on like
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: South so right by the stadiums.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: And I used to go to Aramo Diner sometimes because
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: I worked at a dinner theater my senior year of
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: high school.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Right, do you think that kind of place still exists today?
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: These kinds of diners? Are they going?
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: It does? It does? But they're really they're really falling
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: by the wayside.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: They're just going to But you know what I love
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: about Luke's Diner is that Luke could be in a
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: bad mood and everybody knew it, but but they still
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: came back. And that is so Philly South Jersey. That's
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: so My dad under bar in Germantown and he served
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: food a little bit, although most of the guys would
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: have a chicken dinner, which just spent a couple of
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: hard boiled eggs because they wanted to keep drinking because
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: the food took up too much space, if you know.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: It was like an old band bar for sure. Great place,
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: so great place, and my dad took you know what
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: I'm talking about.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: You know, you remember how people used to be. You
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: moved to California, and everybody's like they're doing yoga, they've
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: got the therapists, they're doing meditation, and they're balanced, they're
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: happy all the time. There's like this big emphasis on
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: being happy all the time in public appearance. That's not
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: the way it used to be.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: No, But also it's unrealistic because you all know it's bullshit.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, that is the outside and you know what,
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: we're always compared. That's a problem about moving to la
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: You always compare your inside.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: So the people's outsides. In Philly, it's like everything's on.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: The table, everything, everything, everything. People ask me, how did
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: you create that? Character. I said, he's a South early
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: South Jersey guys.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Totally, totally, you know. My my brother owned a bar
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: for a while.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: My dad sold his bar because my brother worked for
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: my dad, and then they switched places.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: My dad ended up working for my brother the last
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: fifteen years he waited he was behind the bar.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: Stopped working in eighty seven. Crazy still, I loved to
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: be one hundred amazing, like totally with it. But my
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: brother would have like, my brother was a rougher personality,
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: so he needed my dad because my dad was like
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: my dad was just really even killed, like a really
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: sweet guy, funny, smart, and he knew he understood.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: People better than my brother did.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: But yeah, so he was definitely like the you know,
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: my dad was sort of like the I don't know
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: he was. He was like the fabric softener and the
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: and the rint cycle of the bar. But I remember, like,
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: you know, my dad would have little subtle jokes like,
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: you know, but my brother was like if some friend, somebody,
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: some customer and he was talking to a woman or
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: it was a guy or a woman, if they were
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: talking to somebody that they shouldn't date. He had a
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: red band dad in his back pocket.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: And he would start wiping the bar right in front.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: And that was the red flag, like you know what
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: I'm talking about. So you know, you felt like people
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: were looking out for you.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Right, exactly Seriously.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: There was a woman that used to drink at my
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: dad's bar.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: Was one woman and you know, she'd be drinking with
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: the fellows, just drinking, you know, and she caught the bus.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: And I'm telling you, for years my dad would walk
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: over to the you know, make sure she didn't miss
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: a bus because if she, if she had a lot
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: to drink, she wasn't moving too fast.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: So people looked out for.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's what that's what I miss about that place,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: you know. You know right, you don't know friends, Your
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: friends had your back, like man, I.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: Mean, they made bitch about you, but they'll do it
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: to your face.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Not just behind your back. You know what I mean,
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: you know where you stand. I'm all for that. I'll
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: do that. It's all you all. Everything's great until it's not.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: That's right, all right. So you and Jane Lynch right,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: because she was on the show too, she had aid
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: yes yes. And the thing I remember about Jane Lynch
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: she was playing in she was running the nursing station
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: station when when Richard had his heart attack earlier, like
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I think it was season one or Seeing too. The
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: thing I remember about Jane Lynch and Jane Lynch wasn't
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Jane Lynch yet, but she was Jane Lynch right, yes.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: And the thing that that struck me about her was
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: she took over her scene. She was like in command
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: of her scene. And at times at times I thought,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I said, who's this girl think she is? She's a guess.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: But but that's what you do. You come in, you
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: own your stuff, you you you, you have your opinion,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: you talk to the director. This a because she obviously
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: knew what she was doing, right she could. She's gonna
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: clam up and have somebody tell her to go stand
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: over there and say that line goes stand over there. No,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: she's got instinct, she's got the skills of talent, everything.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: She's gonna she's gonna run the show. And she did.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: And you know, the very first time I ever went
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: to Second City, Jane Lynch was understudying for Bonnie Hunt.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: And what was weird was that it was Bonnie Hunt's
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: wedding day, so Bonnie came back in her wedding dress
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: to do the improv part of the end of the show,
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: and Jane was like, oh, you know, but it's just
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: it's crazy, like I'll never forget it.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: But I remember that's why I knew that Jane was
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: on stage.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: We talked about it later and figured out like, oh
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: my gosh, you were understated for her the night I
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: was there. It's the very first time I was ever
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: in the audience there and and had, you know.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: The bug to work there and luckily got to.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: But I like, I remember about a year and a
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: half later, I became Jane's understudy and just watched it
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: like the way that she would work, you know, there
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: there are very few like she has a tremendous sense
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: of purpose. She understands who she is at all times.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: Like I feel like sometimes I'm more of an ensemble
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: player where I'm like, what do you need me to do? Okay,
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: because let's let's face it, like on the Office I did.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: I did not get a lot of lines, and there
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: were some episodes where I didn't speak at all, but
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: I was in every episode, so I had to be
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: completely realized as a as a character, as a person,
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: and also as a good scene partner. So even if
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: you're not talking, you got to like give somebody back
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: like whatever your reaction is, your attention that makes sense,
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: that keeps it real so that they can keep doing
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: what they're doing, because you know, Steve Crole did all
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: they have been lifting on our show in my opinion.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: But you know, I always felt like when I when
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: I did get the talk, it was always worth the
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: way because I had some really fun memorable moments.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: A lot of stuff got cut season two and I was.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: Like, oh God, am I going to get fired because
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: I replaced somebody for the pilot. So you know, whenever
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, I auditioned for the pilot for another part,
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: didn't get that for the part of jam.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Michael Scott's boss. So when I when I did get hired,
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh no, this is weird to replace
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: somebody like that.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: But you know, I but I feel like there's some
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: people that take up more space automatically, and I feel
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: like and it's a it's a great thing.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: It's a gift.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Did she filled that room?
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: She It was like you didn't notice anybody else because she,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: like the general was there nice? Right? No, because there's
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: no question there's no question right now.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Jane and I've been touring together for about ten years.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: We did a Christmas album together and it did really well.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: It was like literally number eight in the Billboard Top ten.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: And we so we so we get to do like
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: a lot of performing arts centers. We've played the Kennedy Center,
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: We've played the Carlisle and it's just great. We usually
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: go out for about three weeks into like late November
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: till then right before Christmas in December, and then we
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: also have a new non Christmas show. We've been doing
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: different variations of it. This is a new version called
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: The Trouble with Angels. We're gonna do that in Texas
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: in February and at Steppenwolf in.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Chicago and March.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, we got a punch.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Big dates coming up for that.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: The store we're gonna be literally from uh, from the
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: East coast, Midwest. And then we like we're doing Palm Springs,
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: where we're having done all in a while, so we're
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: doing so Rito's and Uh.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: And then we're just kidding and then we're doing the
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: broad Theater in Santa Monica. So it's fun.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: It's like a concert, but there's a lot of comedy.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: We we sing with this great jazz band that Tony Greer.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Quick Ina Monica. What are the dates?
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: We'll be down December seven, seventeenth.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: When are you doing to Ritos at sixteenth?
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: And then we'll be in Palm Springs on the fifteenth.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: We moved, We moved, Scott. We just keep moving.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: We don't take a break.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was saying like our show was like the
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: It's like the rat Pack, but with a couple of broads.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: So there's a lot of comedy in between the songs.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: It's not a hostage situation, you know. Jane kind of
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: leans into her kind.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Of she sort of leans into Sieu Sylvaster, and I
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: sort of lean into Meredith. She's sort of like the
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: nun knocking me on the knuckles, and I'm sort of
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: like the sheep dog knock and everything over.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: We have a great time and it's fun. It's fun.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: It's sort of like we call it like an anti
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: cabaret act.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: Because sometimes, you know what I mean, there's a lot
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: of people that take themselves very seriously and that in
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: that medium.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: So YouTube been performing together for a while now, right,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: how long? How long far do you go back.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it's consistently for ten years. We used to
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: sing it benefits for singing and benefit this Sunday Kelleyen
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: Jazz Club. But yeah, we we and we sang together
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: in Chicago. There were a number of things we used
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: to do together. Yeah, so it was it was fun.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: We've always had a good time. We've always we always
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: like to see it.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: That is great.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Jane likes to say, yours go to sion h praise.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: All right, one last question, because we're running out of
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: time and you have please Kate come back, love to
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: come back.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: I would love to. Let's not wait till the Phillies
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: take them.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: No, No, that might be you know, we might be
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: you know, doing it from the well. Anyway, if you
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: were to come in to Luke's Diner, Kate, okay, let's press.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: If you were to come in, what would you order?
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Where would you sit?
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: I would want to.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Order eggs and scrapple, But Star's Hollow probably doesn't serve scrapple,
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: so I won't do that with Rye toast.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: By the way, do you remember Habersets sausage and scrapple?
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Your worse?
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: I literally just had some this past week, my.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: First, my first gig ever. I was five years old,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: and my dad handled no, my dad's friend handled that account,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: what handled the Haberset Sausage and Scrapple account. So one Saturday, I.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: Just sent Habersets Scrapple to a friend of mine because
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: I found it online where you could ship it.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: So so my dad takes us over to his house
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: on a Saturday that we're talking nineteen sixty three, and
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: my sister and I did the voice over to the
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: lines that we had to read into the microphone. That
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: was my first job. Yes, my sister and I were
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: the voice of Haberset Sausage and Scrapple for I don't
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: know if it was a whole campaign or what. It
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: was just a one offul commercial, but that that was.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: We did our radio debut in nineteen sixty three.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: That's amazing. Gilmore Girls, Skill More Girls, scrappleed, You're the
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Boys of Scrapple.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: We parted like it was nineteen six fifty eight. Actually
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: after that, I.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: Have to tell you, I love Luke. I love I always.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: I always loved the on again, off again thing with
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: you and Lauren and I just I just felt like
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: you really embodied, Like I just the storytelling on the
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: show was It's so easy to get back into these
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: days because I got to turn off the news. So
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: I feel like I've tuned into girlmore again and it's
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: like an old friend.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: So so thank you old friends.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you work. Seriously, I appreciate that. It was.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: It was you know, when you get those great lines,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: all you have to do is sort of like not
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: screw it up and don't up into the furniture, right,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: you know, we get to say all those great lines
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: in those great situations. What are a gift?
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Every single day? Every single day you gotta work.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: So well, it's such a smart show. Oh my god,
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: it is. That's so much, pretty proud.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Of it is. All right, you're coming back right, all right,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: you kind of come back day Flannery. Check her out.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: She's on tour with Jane Lynch a Swinging Little Christmas
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: again this year. She's going to be locally Santa Monica
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: and Sorito's, but she's going all over the place and you.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: Can buy her.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: You can get her album on iTunes, Swing a Little
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: Christmas on iTunes or time you can buy the CD,
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: give it to your grandmother.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know anybody.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Check that out to the perfect Christmas gift. All right,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Thanks everybody, best fans on the planet. Keep those cards
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: and letters coming. Appreciate you. We'll see it. Holidays made here.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be there every day from December eighteenth to
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: December twenty fourth, and then again Christmas because I need
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: a break, and then twenty sixth of December through January fourth.
• 30:54
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• 31:02
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• 31:05
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