Latest / Vigilante Vibes Podcast / Ep. 235. Who is Vanessa Fisk in Marvel Comics?!
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- 0:10Hello Marvel fans, comic geeks and all the nerds in between.
- 0:13My name is Megan with vigilante vibes and we are going to talk
- 0:15about a character today that is everywhere 'cause she's shrouded
- 0:21a mystery because of Daredevil. Born Again Season 2 Episode 4
- 0:24Gloves off, we're going to talk about Vanessa Fisk.
- 0:27Who is Vanessa Fisk in the comics and what happens to her?
- 0:31Vanessa first appeared in Amazing Spider man #70 in
- 0:34December of 1968, but just as a cameo.
- 0:37But her first full appearance was an Amazing Spider man #83 in
- 0:40January of 1970. Vanessa first met Fisk when she
- 0:45was just 15. She'd been brought to him by his
- 0:48crew of thieves to be sold as a slave on the black market.
- 0:51Even though she was scared, lost, and suffering from
- 0:54amnesia, Fisk noticed her natural grace and inner
- 0:57strength, qualities he'd always wanted in a partner.
- 1:00They quickly formed a bond and before long they were married
- 1:03and genuinely in love. Now this is obviously very
- 1:06different from the show when she was much older than 15 and
- 1:10worked at an Art Museum. It's not said how old Kingpin
- 1:14was when they met, that I'm aware of.
- 1:16I could be wrong, but I doubt he was 15 as well, so take that for
- 1:22what it is. Vanessa loved Kingpin very
- 1:25deeply, even if she didn't always agree with his criminal
- 1:28lifestyle. They did have a son together
- 1:30named Richard. While she was pregnant, she once
- 1:33held a sewing needle to her belly, terrified of bringing a
- 1:36child into such a violent world. When Richard got older, they
- 1:40sent him off to Switzerland for his education.
- 1:44Eventually, Richard came back and tried to take over his
- 1:46father's empire under the name The Schemer, confronting both of
- 1:50his parents. But the story is not about
- 1:52Richard. Fisk was very possessive of
- 1:55Vanessa. At one point she was lost in the
- 1:58sewers of New York and believed dead.
- 2:01Daredevil ended up rescuing her from the sewer ruler known as
- 2:04the King and brought her back to Fisk, but only after Fisk agreed
- 2:08to pull his corrupt mayoral candidate Randolph Cherry from
- 2:12the race. Later, when Vanessa fell into a
- 2:15near coma and even the best doctors could not help her, the
- 2:19Fisk took extreme measures. He kidnapped the blind wife of a
- 2:22famous French psychologist, forcing the man to cure Vanessa
- 2:26by making him feel the same desperation and fear.
- 2:30To keep things secret, Fisk used a small time crook named Turk as
- 2:34a middleman, but Turk's sudden wealth drew Daredevil's
- 2:38attention and the kidnapped woman was rescued.
- 2:41You probably recognize the name Turk from the Luke Cage series,
- 2:46so there's that. Hey, look at that.
- 2:49When Vanessa finally recovered, though, it was absolutely not
- 2:53the recovery Fisk was expecting. She was terrified of Fisk and
- 2:58desperately wanted to escape. Daredevil fought his way up to
- 3:01Fisk's penthouse, only to learn that Fisk, out of love, had
- 3:06already let Vanessa go to France with the Doctor.
- 3:10Because of situations like this, Fisk later started hiring
- 3:14actresses to impersonate Vanessa to protect her from kidnapping
- 3:18and extortion. One of them, Heidi DeVito, was
- 3:22eventually kidnapped and actually killed.
- 3:24So that's unfortunate, but that could have been Vanessa.
- 3:27So at one point, Vanessa and Wilson separated.
- 3:32She returned to New York after learning their son had tried to
- 3:34kill his father with the help of Sammy Silk.
- 3:37Furious, Vanessa took matters into her own hands and started
- 3:41cleaning up the villainous underworld, starting by killing
- 3:43a small time criminal named Falzone.
- 3:46She then confronted Richard and after a very tense exchange, she
- 3:50killed him too, Richard being her son.
- 3:54After that, she took Wilson away to recover, knowing he would
- 3:57never forgive her for killing their son.
- 3:59She left before he woke up to avoid his anger.
- 4:03Later, Vanessa developed a terminal illness and decided to
- 4:06settle all of her unfinished debts in businesses from behind
- 4:10the scenes. She orchestrated a complex plan
- 4:12that included getting both Murdoch and Fist arrested by the
- 4:17FBI, faking Foggy Nelson's death, hiring Iron Fist to
- 4:22impersonate Daredevil, and using Tombstone and Liliuca to send
- 4:28Murdoch on a chase across Europe.
- 4:31She did all of this out of revenge, blaming both Daredevil
- 4:34and Wilson for how her life turned out.
- 4:36Like she wasn't the one that killed her own son.
- 4:39It's fine. Before she died, she briefly
- 4:42confronted Daredevil and revealed everything.
- 4:45After her death, Murdoch honored her final wish by clearing the
- 4:49charges against Fisk on the condition that Fisk give up his
- 4:52US citizenship. Years later, the Hand found her
- 4:56body and brought Vanessa back to life to test Fisk to see if he
- 5:00was worthy of the Hand sending her to kill him.
- 5:04They fought, but Fisk didn't want to hurt her.
- 5:07He attempted reasoning with her and tried to reach whatever
- 5:11remained of her old self. When it seemed hopeless, he took
- 5:15her out by breaking her back, only to realize too late that
- 5:19she had actually been trying to save him from an attacker from
- 5:22behind. She died for a second time in
- 5:25his arms, leaving Fisk devastated and pushing him even
- 5:29further into crime. Later still the Jackal brought
- 5:33Vanessa back as a clone to try to manipulate Fisk and do
- 5:36funding New You technologies, but Fisk rejected her
- 5:40completely, snapping her neck and calling her nothing more
- 5:44than a corrupt imitation, saying the Jackal had ruined his last
- 5:48real memories of her. So that's Vanessa's story in
- 5:52Marvel Comics. It's interesting because I think
- 5:55her influence over Fisk and his love for her is much bigger than
- 5:59her actual character, which is very different for a comic book
- 6:02character. You always hear about Fisk and
- 6:05Vanessa but in all honesty she really wasn't that big of a
- 6:08character, especially not as big as a character as Daredevil born
- 6:12Again makes her out to be. But I actually love how they
- 6:16gave her character so much more depth and so much more story to
- 6:19work with. So now that you know her
- 6:21background, what does this mean? Could Bullseye have actually
- 6:25killed her? Please keep in mind that the
- 6:28episode dropped yesterday. So if you're watching this after
- 6:33Daredevil Born Again season 2 episode 5678 and I'm wrong, I
- 6:39look stupid and I get it. So if he does actually kill her,
- 6:43which I kind of don't think so, because her talk with the mayor,
- 6:49a female mayor at the beginning of the episode, that would have
- 6:52all been for nothing. So I don't think she's actually
- 6:55dead. But if she is, there's always
- 6:58the possibility that the hand brings her back.
- 7:01And that would make sense as to why the hand is still prevalent
- 7:04and Spider Man brand new day. So that could always be it.
- 7:10It could also be something wild, like this was a Vanessa
- 7:15impersonator that Kingpin hired like he does in the comics.
- 7:18It could be any of those things, but I think it's very cut and
- 7:21dry that Vanessa Fisk just doesn't just die.
- 7:25I mean, obviously. So there's a lot of theories
- 7:29that we could go with here, but I really hope it's the one with
- 7:33the hand, because I would love that.
- 7:35But I really do think she's not dead.
- 7:37But if she does turn out to be actually dead egg on my face, I
- 7:41guess So, yeah, This was my breakdown of Vanessa Fisk.
- 7:45I hope you enjoyed it. I hope you learned something,
- 7:47and I hope you'll like and subscribe so you don't miss
- 7:49anything else I put out. With that being said, have a
- 7:51marvelous day.