Latest / The Pricing Marketing Podcast with Fexingo: Price Anchoring, Bundling, and Conversion Pricing / How MSRP Anchors Your Perception of a Deal
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- Lucas: You walk into Best Buy, see a Sony 4K OLED with a sticker price of two thousand nine hundred ninety-nine dollars, but a big red tag says 'Now two thousand four hundred ninety-nine'. Your brain registers the five hundred dollar savings before it processes that you're spending twenty-five hundred dollars. That's the MSRP anchor at work. Luna: So the manufacturer's suggested retail price is essentially a decoy? It sets a high expectation so the actual price looks like a deal. Lucas: Exactly. And it's not just electronics. Car dealers have been doing this for decades. The window sticker on a Toyota Camry might list an MSRP of twenty-eight thousand dollars, but the dealer offers it at twenty-five thousand. That three-thousand-dollar gap feels like a win, even if the dealer's cost is lower. Luna: But don't consumers wise up? I mean, everyone knows MSRP is often inflated. Lucas: That's the fascinating part. Research shows that even when people know the MSRP is a marketing number, it still influences their willingness to pay. A two thousand twelve study in the Journal of Marketing found that when a retailer displayed a 'was eighty dollars, now fifty dollars' tag, consumers perceived the value higher than when it simply said 'fifty dollars'. The MSRP anchor stuck even when they doubted its accuracy. Luna: That's wild. So it's not about belief—it's about automatic comparison. Lucas: Right. Our brains are wired to compare. When we see a sale price without a reference point, we have nothing to evaluate it against. The MSRP gives us that anchor. And it works even more powerfully when the anchor is precise—like three-thousand-two-hundred-ninety-nine dollars—because it feels researched, not arbitrary. Luna: So how do businesses set an effective MSRP? Is it just pick a high number? Lucas: Not exactly. There's a sweet spot. If the MSRP is too high, it looks fake and can actually backfire—consumers might distrust the brand. But if it's too close to the selling price, the discount seems trivial. A meta-analysis from two thousand eighteen suggested that a discount of about twenty to thirty percent off the MSRP feels significant without triggering skepticism. Luna: So the car dealer who marks a thirty-thousand-dollar car down to twenty-five thousand is right in that zone. That's about a seventeen percent discount, actually. Lucas: True, and car dealers often add options to bump the MSRP higher—like a premium package that costs two thousand but is 'included' in the sale price. That's a form of bundling anchor too. But let's switch to online retail. Amazon and other e-commerce sites use 'list price' as a substitute for MSRP. You'll see a product listed as 'List Price: one hundred twenty dollars, Price: seventy-nine dollars'. That list price is often the manufacturer's suggested price, but sometimes it's just a made-up number. Luna: And that's where it gets legally tricky. The FTC has guidelines about false reference pricing. You can't just invent a fake high price to make a discount look huge. Lucas: Correct. In the US, the FTC requires that the reference price be a genuine former price or the usual market price. But there's a grey area. Some retailers use 'compare at' prices from other stores, which can be legitimate if competitive. But the anchor still works, even if the consumer knows the 'compare at' price is from a different retailer. Luna: I remember seeing a furniture store that had a sofa 'was two thousand dollars, now eight hundred'. I figured they probably never sold it at two thousand, but the discount made me feel like I was getting a steal. Lucas: Exactly. That's the illusory savings effect. And it's especially powerful in categories where customers don't have a strong internal price reference—like furniture, mattresses, or jewelry. For commodity items like milk or gas, MSRP doesn't matter because people know the typical price. Luna: So the less familiar the product, the more potent the anchor. Lucas: That's a key takeaway. For new products, setting a high MSRP can create a value perception that lasts. Take Apple's iPhone pricing. The Pro Max models start at one thousand two hundred dollars for the base storage. That sets an anchor that makes the lower-priced Pro or regular iPhone seem more reasonable. And even the storage upgrades are anchored: the jump from one hundred twenty-eight to two hundred fifty-six gigs might cost one hundred dollars, but compared to the huge base price, that's a small percentage. Luna: So it's like the base model anchors the whole line. And then the upgrades feel like a small add-on. Lucas: Precisely. But let's talk about a specific example that illustrates the pitfalls. In twenty sixteen, J.C. Penney tried to eliminate sales and just offer everyday low prices. They stopped using MSRP anchors and the fake discounts. And customers were confused—they didn't know if they were getting a good deal. Sales plummeted. They had to bring back the high-low pricing model because people needed that anchor to feel they were saving money. Luna: So even when the price is genuinely fair, without a reference point, consumers feel lost. Lucas: Exactly. The MSRP isn't just a number—it's a storytelling device. It tells a story of value, of a bargain, of smart shopping. And that story is part of the purchase experience. Now, if these marketing conversations have sparked something you've actually used—maybe you've started noticing the anchors in your own shopping—that's exactly the kind of thing that keeps this show ad-free. A couple of dollars a month genuinely makes a difference. If you've gotten value out of these episodes, buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo helps us keep going. Luna: Yeah, it's a small way to support the work we put into each episode. And it really does help. Lucas: Anyway, back to MSRP anchoring. One interesting twist: how does this work in business to business pricing? In B2B, list prices are often negotiable, but they still function as anchors. A software company might list a per-user fee of fifty dollars per month, but then offer a discount for annual contracts. The fifty dollars is the anchor, and the forty dollars per month for annual looks like a twenty percent savings. Luna: And in enterprise sales, the initial quote often includes a high list price that the salesperson can 'discount' to make the buyer feel they've won a concession. Lucas: Right. That's a classic negotiation tactic. The higher the initial anchor, the better the final price seems. A study by Harvard Business School found that when a seller started with a high price, the final agreement was higher than when they started with a low price, even after the same amount of negotiation. Luna: So it's not just retail. msrp type anchors are everywhere in sales. Lucas: Absolutely. And as consumers, knowing this can help us make more intentional decisions. Next time you see a 'was' price, ask yourself: is that a genuine reference, or just a marketing number? And if it's the latter, you can decide whether the actual price is worth it on its own merits. Luna: But Lucas, doesn't that kind of skepticism ruin the fun of a good deal? Lucas: Maybe, but it also means you're not being tricked. You can still enjoy the purchase, but you're paying for the product, not the illusion of savings. And for marketers, the ethical use of MSRP means using a genuine reference that honestly reflects the market value, not an inflated number. Luna: So the takeaway: anchors are powerful, but they work best when grounded in truth. Lucas: Exactly. That's the difference between a pricing strategy and manipulation. And as always, understanding the psychology helps both sides of the transaction.