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Using House Rulers to Tell a Story · Astrology for Beginners

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  SPEAKER_00: Hello everyone, welcome back to the Astrology for Beginners podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm your host, Stephanie Kate Boucher, and I am so happy to have you here.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is the podcast for you if you have ever wanted to learn how to read a natal
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  SPEAKER_00: chart or were kind of interested in astrology and wished that you understood more
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  SPEAKER_00: about it but didn't know where to begin or it seemed too complicated and you didn't
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  SPEAKER_00: have the time or the resources to invest in learning it.
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  SPEAKER_00: My goal is to break things down for you episode by episode in the most simplified
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  SPEAKER_00: way that I can so that you can learn to speak the language of the stars.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for learning astrology with me.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hey friends,
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  SPEAKER_00: we are back for another all-new episode,
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  SPEAKER_00: and today we are going to build off of the thread that we started last week when we
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  SPEAKER_00: talked about chart rulers.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you'll recall,
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  SPEAKER_00: I had you do a thing where you looked at the sign on your ascendant,
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  SPEAKER_00: determined which planet ruled that sign,
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  SPEAKER_00: and then...
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  SPEAKER_00: located that planet in your chart in order to look for clues about the major themes
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  SPEAKER_00: and lessons and experiences that you planned on having when you got here.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I feel like this is a really pivotal exercise for people to go through because
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  SPEAKER_00: maybe for one of the first times since we started this whole thing,
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  SPEAKER_00: this whole show,
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  SPEAKER_00: it gave you a chance to take two different parts of your chart and really tie them
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  SPEAKER_00: together and
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  SPEAKER_00: in order to start telling a story.
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  SPEAKER_00: This exercise isn't simply about memorizing what something means,
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  SPEAKER_00: like what a particular house means or what a particular sign means or what a planet means.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is a step beyond that.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is about using one part of your chart and using it to look for clues to tell you where to look
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  SPEAKER_00: next for more information,
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  SPEAKER_00: which is ultimately one of the things that you want to be doing and getting
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  SPEAKER_00: comfortable with because that's what helps you find the story.
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  SPEAKER_00: One thing in the chart is prompting you to look at another thing that is positioned
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  SPEAKER_00: somewhere else,
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  SPEAKER_00: and then your natal chart becomes like a map.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like a trail of breadcrumbs that you're following in order to find your way.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we're revisiting this idea this week because I'm going to describe how you can
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  SPEAKER_00: use the same line of thinking,
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  SPEAKER_00: the same process,
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  SPEAKER_00: in other ways.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because once you've done this with your chart ruler,
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  SPEAKER_00: this strategy of taking the planetary ruler of one house and finding that planet in
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  SPEAKER_00: the chart to get more information about the matters of that house...
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, then you can start doing this for every area of your life.
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  SPEAKER_00: So again, the chart ruler tells you about yourself because it rules the first house, which is you.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's the house of self.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's your persona and it's your body.
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  SPEAKER_00: So its ruler represents the self and how you're showing up.
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  SPEAKER_00: But what if you want to learn about parts of your life that are more specific?
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  SPEAKER_00: What if you want to learn about your finances and how you are best suited to making money?
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  SPEAKER_00: How you're likeliest to make money?
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  SPEAKER_00: What if you want to know about the types of jobs you'd be good at or what type of
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  SPEAKER_00: employment you should be looking for?
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  SPEAKER_00: What type of career you thought you'd have?
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  SPEAKER_00: What if you want to know more about how you learn best or what your communication
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  SPEAKER_00: style is or what your general attitude about your life is like or how you show up
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  SPEAKER_00: in your relationships or how your relationships might feel or what they might be like?
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  SPEAKER_00: What if you want to know more about your health or what your dating style is?
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  SPEAKER_00: You can start using this strategy for any area of your life.
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  SPEAKER_00: And how you do that is you determine which house is the most relevant house for the
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  SPEAKER_00: issue you're interested in.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then look at the sign that this house cup falls into.
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  SPEAKER_00: And by the way,
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  SPEAKER_00: just a reminder that the house cusp is the first line of that house if you are
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  SPEAKER_00: moving counterclockwise around the chart.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then you're going to determine which planet is the ruler of that sign.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then go find that planet in your chart and see what it's doing.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can follow all of the same steps that you used to analyze your chart ruler.
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  SPEAKER_00: you'll look at the house that that planet is in because that house is now going to
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  SPEAKER_00: be directly tied to the original house.
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  SPEAKER_00: The ruler being in another house means that the activities associated with those
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  SPEAKER_00: two houses are linked together,
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  SPEAKER_00: or that those two parts of your life are linked together.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're going to look at the sign that the planetary ruler of that house is in.
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  SPEAKER_00: The sign tells you how you're going to go about doing the matters of that house.
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  SPEAKER_00: The sign always shows you the how of something.
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  SPEAKER_00: The house is the part of the question that shows you the what.
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  SPEAKER_00: The sign is the how.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're going to look at the planet's condition to determine whether one of the four
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  SPEAKER_00: essential dignities applies.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is it in domicile, exaltation, detriment, or fall?
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  SPEAKER_00: It could be none of those, but if it is, take a note.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then you'll see if it's making any aspects to other planets.
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  SPEAKER_00: If so, which ones and where are those planets?
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  SPEAKER_00: What are they doing?
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  SPEAKER_00: Or alternatively, is the planet unaspected?
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  SPEAKER_00: So look for all of the information you can.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think we should take a crack at a sample chart and see how this can work.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I've put a chart in the show notes,
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  SPEAKER_00: and you can have that handy if you want during the rest of this discussion.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'll tell you whose chart this is at the end of the show.
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  SPEAKER_00: So let's say that this chart belonged to you,
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  SPEAKER_00: or perhaps it belonged to someone else,
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  SPEAKER_00: and that person asked you to give them some advice about what types of job they
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  SPEAKER_00: should do in this world.
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  SPEAKER_00: What types of employment should they have?
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  SPEAKER_00: Perhaps they're not happy with what they're currently doing, or perhaps they're looking to make some
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  SPEAKER_00: job changes or some career decisions that might be on the horizon.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they just really want to get more in touch with what they're good at and where
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  SPEAKER_00: they think would be a good place to channel their efforts.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we'd be wanting to go to the sixth house.
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  SPEAKER_00: The sixth house is the house in astrology that rules work, employment, and service to others.
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  SPEAKER_00: There are actually three career houses.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's the second
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  SPEAKER_00: the 6th and the 10th,
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  SPEAKER_00: and they're all,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: trined together,
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  SPEAKER_00: but specifically employment and day-to-day work is ruled by the 6th house.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we're going to look at the 6th house,
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  SPEAKER_00: and in this chart we see that the 6th house is ruled by the sign Sagittarius.
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  SPEAKER_00: And by the way,
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  SPEAKER_00: this isn't necessarily how an actual reading with an astrologer would go,
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  SPEAKER_00: because in that case,
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  SPEAKER_00: there would be a lot of different things they'd be looking at to determine one's
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  SPEAKER_00: career inclinations.
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  SPEAKER_00: Career astrology can get very, very nuanced and complicated.
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  SPEAKER_00: They'd probably want to be looking at the ascendant sign and the chart ruler,
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  SPEAKER_00: and they'd look at the planet's
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  SPEAKER_00: in the first house and near the angles and angular houses.
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  SPEAKER_00: They'd look at the sun placement and basically the whole chart in its entirety
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  SPEAKER_00: because it's such an integral part of who we are,
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  SPEAKER_00: right,
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  SPEAKER_00: our work.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is also,
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  SPEAKER_00: though,
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  SPEAKER_00: one of the steps one could take or would take if you wanted to get clues about the
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  SPEAKER_00: type of work someone would be well-suited to doing.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so just for the sake of demonstrating this one strategy,
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  SPEAKER_00: we're going to ignore as best we can all of the other things for now and just see
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  SPEAKER_00: where this takes us.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's see where we can get with this process.
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  SPEAKER_00: We'll test it out.
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  SPEAKER_00: So,
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  SPEAKER_00: of course,
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  SPEAKER_00: the first thing you'll notice looking at the sixth house is that it's ruled by Sagittarius.
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  SPEAKER_00: So what that tells us right out of the gate is that this would be a person who
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  SPEAKER_00: would be bringing Sagittarian qualities to all of their sixth house themes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Those would include one's work, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: They're likely to approach their work with a sense of adventure,
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  SPEAKER_00: with optimism and,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: a can-do attitude.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're going to have a growth mindset because Sag is very expansive.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're going to want to take on a challenge or an opportunity,
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  SPEAKER_00: rather,
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  SPEAKER_00: because that's how they'd see it,
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  SPEAKER_00: and live it out and play it out to its fullest potential.
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  SPEAKER_00: These are going to be your big picture thinkers and your philosophers,
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  SPEAKER_00: so they're not necessarily going to enjoy getting mired down in mundane tasks.
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  SPEAKER_00: So any job that would require lots of mundane little details or work that they deem
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  SPEAKER_00: uninteresting is not for them.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're going to need to be or prefer to be in a position where they can step back
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  SPEAKER_00: and see the big picture.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's a real love of learning here.
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  SPEAKER_00: Remember,
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  SPEAKER_00: Sagittarius and Jupiter,
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  SPEAKER_00: its ruler,
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  SPEAKER_00: are both associated with higher learning or highly specialized or technical
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  SPEAKER_00: learning of any kind.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's associated with teaching and mentoring,
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  SPEAKER_00: with academia,
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  SPEAKER_00: with long distance travel,
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  SPEAKER_00: with publishing,
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  SPEAKER_00: the law,
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  SPEAKER_00: religion,
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  SPEAKER_00: and our belief systems.
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  SPEAKER_00: These are all Sagittarian themes and things ruled by Jupiter.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we know that this is how this person would tend to approach their work and that
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  SPEAKER_00: they do best working in a profession or role where having these qualities are an
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  SPEAKER_00: expected part of the job.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they'd probably do especially well at one of the professional areas I just mentioned.
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  SPEAKER_00: But which one?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, let's look for more clues.
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  SPEAKER_00: Before we leave the sixth house,
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  SPEAKER_00: I will point out that we'd typically also look to see what planets are in this house,
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  SPEAKER_00: if there are any.
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  SPEAKER_00: And in the case of this chart, the moon is here.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's really significant for a couple of reasons.
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  SPEAKER_00: One is that it indicates that this person's emotional well-being,
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  SPEAKER_00: or rather their happiness,
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  SPEAKER_00: is closely tied to their work and that they need to be satisfied and very engaged
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  SPEAKER_00: in this part of their life in order to feel happy and content.
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  SPEAKER_00: If they don't have work they enjoy doing,
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  SPEAKER_00: it's going to feel very unsettling for them and they're not going to be as happy in
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  SPEAKER_00: life generally.
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  SPEAKER_00: It can also show that this is someone who brings a great deal of care into their work.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is someone who likes to nurture their work because remember,
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  SPEAKER_00: the moon is a very nurturing and caring energy.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's one thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: The other is that the moon is the ruler of this chart.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is a Cancer rising.
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  SPEAKER_00: The chart ruler is the moon.
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  SPEAKER_00: The moon is in the sixth house.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the major lessons they're here to learn and the major tasks they came here for
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  SPEAKER_00: are going to be directly related to the work that they do.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's very significant.
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  SPEAKER_00: Their work might also make them popular too.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sag moons tend to attract popularity and make people very likable.
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  SPEAKER_00: But back to the process of looking at the dispositor, or the sixth house ruler.
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  SPEAKER_00: The ruler of Sagittarius, of course, is Jupiter.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we're going to look to see where Jupiter is,
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  SPEAKER_00: and that's going to give us more information about this person's work.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we can see that Jupiter is in the ninth house and it's in the sign of Aquarius.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now,
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  SPEAKER_00: the ninth house,
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  SPEAKER_00: that's very interesting because the ninth house is the house that's naturally ruled
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  SPEAKER_00: by Sagittarius and Jupiter in astrology.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we're going back to those Sagittarian themes again.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sagittarius is clearly a big theme in this person's work and in this person's life.
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  SPEAKER_00: But what might this person's work actually look like?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well,
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  SPEAKER_00: It's going to be taking place in the realm of life that is the ninth house.
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  SPEAKER_00: So again,
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  SPEAKER_00: that could be higher learning or very specialized learning,
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  SPEAKER_00: academia,
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  SPEAKER_00: teaching or mentoring,
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  SPEAKER_00: publishing,
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  SPEAKER_00: travel,
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  SPEAKER_00: religion,
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  SPEAKER_00: all of those things we just talked about,
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  SPEAKER_00: right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Just looking at this information alone, what could we consider?
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  SPEAKER_00: Is this a religious figure?
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  SPEAKER_00: Possibly.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is this a college professor or an academic of some sort?
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  SPEAKER_00: Possibly.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is this a researcher of some kind or maybe a scientist?
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  SPEAKER_00: Possibly.
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  SPEAKER_00: A philosopher or a writer and a publisher of philosophical ideas?
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  SPEAKER_00: Possibly.
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  SPEAKER_00: We still don't quite know, but we're getting closer.
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  SPEAKER_00: We can see, though, that this ninth house, Jupiter, is in the sign of Aquarius.
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  SPEAKER_00: What could this tell us?
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  SPEAKER_00: Aquarius has very progressive ideals that could fit in with any of those professions.
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  SPEAKER_00: Aquarius is often focused on the collective of humanity and wants to advance humanity.
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  SPEAKER_00: Aquarius can be unconventional and eccentric and may view things differently than most people.
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  SPEAKER_00: Aquarius can see patterns and solutions to things that maybe the average person can't see.
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  SPEAKER_00: Aquarius is tied to spirituality in some ways, particularly to astrology, so there's that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Aquarius energy is highly intelligent and highly intellectual,
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  SPEAKER_00: so Aquarius is quite significantly tied to technology,
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  SPEAKER_00: to new inventions,
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  SPEAKER_00: and to science.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it does really well there.
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  SPEAKER_00: It does really well in scientific fields because it thinks like a scientist a lot of times.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's very objective and can remain unbiased and unattached to outcomes.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the scientific method itself is very Aquarian.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I think a philosopher or someone who leads towards activism and inspiration is
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  SPEAKER_00: certainly possible in this case.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I'd also think you could make a solid case for something very technical,
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  SPEAKER_00: like a scientist or inventor or a scientific researcher with a very expansive
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  SPEAKER_00: vision who works in academia or
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  SPEAKER_00: and publishes or shares their work out in the world, like many academians tend to do.
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  SPEAKER_00: So let's keep this going and now look at the aspects that this planet,
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  SPEAKER_00: Jupiter,
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  SPEAKER_00: the sixth house ruler,
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  SPEAKER_00: makes with other planets.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well,
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  SPEAKER_00: right away,
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  SPEAKER_00: I would point to the opposition it's making with Uranus in the third house of
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  SPEAKER_00: thinking and communication.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uranus is the ruler of Aquarius, interestingly.
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  SPEAKER_00: So Jupiter is making an aspect with its own dispositor,
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  SPEAKER_00: adding even more emphasis to the relationship between these two houses and these
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  SPEAKER_00: two planets.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uranus in the third house can indicate high,
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  SPEAKER_00: high levels of intelligence,
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  SPEAKER_00: possibly even genius,
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  SPEAKER_00: or at the very least,
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  SPEAKER_00: a perspective and a way of thinking that is unconventional or outside the norm in
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  SPEAKER_00: some way.
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  SPEAKER_00: This can indicate eccentric thinking,
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  SPEAKER_00: but also just an ability to think through things in a way that maybe others can't
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  SPEAKER_00: or don't.
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  SPEAKER_00: It can also indicate large breakthroughs, maybe even breakthroughs that really shake things up.
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  SPEAKER_00: This can be a way of thinking that completely changes paradigms even.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uranus doesn't care about the status quo,
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  SPEAKER_00: and it's not particularly influenced or swayed by the way things are,
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  SPEAKER_00: especially being opposite Jupiter.
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  SPEAKER_00: That could really give someone kind of a rebellious nature.
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  SPEAKER_00: So this seems like someone who is very driven to make changes.
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  SPEAKER_00: But this Uranus, it's in the sign of Virgo.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's going to take this very high degree of intellect and ensure that it gets
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  SPEAKER_00: used in a highly analytical way.
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  SPEAKER_00: Virgo is very analytical.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's going to take an idea and pick it apart over and over until it's completely
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  SPEAKER_00: satisfied with its accuracy and its level of precision.
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  SPEAKER_00: Things need to be exact with Virgo.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this is nice here, actually.
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  SPEAKER_00: I like this because it provides a counterbalance to all of the Sagittarian energy,
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  SPEAKER_00: which is so big picture.
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  SPEAKER_00: And Sag doesn't necessarily do details all that well, but Virgo certainly does.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's a nice balance of both things.
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  SPEAKER_00: This person can see the forest and the trees, and that's a unique combination.
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  SPEAKER_00: Lots of us are one or the other.
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  SPEAKER_00: We can also take note of the fact that Jupiter is making another aspect.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's forming a square with Pluto in the 11th house.
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  SPEAKER_00: The 11th house is the house that Aquarius naturally rules.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we have those Aquarian themes coming up again here.
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  SPEAKER_00: This house rules over the collective of humanity.
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  SPEAKER_00: Pluto is about transformation and also about death and rebirth or even the darker
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  SPEAKER_00: parts of our humanity,
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  SPEAKER_00: right?
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  SPEAKER_00: So certainly it would seem like this could be someone whose work is going to change
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  SPEAKER_00: the direction of some group of people somewhere or maybe even change the direction
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  SPEAKER_00: of humanity itself.
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  SPEAKER_00: I told myself I would not veer out of this process, but I can't totally help it.
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  SPEAKER_00: It would seem like this idea is supported by this person's 10th house stellium, which includes the sun.
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  SPEAKER_00: This could be a pretty public-facing lifetime with all of those planets there and the sun there.
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  SPEAKER_00: That 11th house also has a lot going on.
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  SPEAKER_00: But back to Pluto.
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  SPEAKER_00: Pluto is in Taurus here.
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  SPEAKER_00: So
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, Taurus can be pretty set in its ways.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: It likes stability.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_00: Pluto is definitely not set in any ways.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_00: So again,
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_00: transforming the status quo and making impactful contributions seems like a theme
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_00: that is cropping up over and over.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_00: So I can see all of that, all of that transformation as the result of all this person's work.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: And,
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_00: those are great clues when we're looking at someone's life in hindsight,
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: because this is a public figure who's not alive anymore.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_00: But as for the work itself, the work that this person might do
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: if this were a modern person looking for guidance,
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_00: or if you were looking at your own chart,
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_00: what might we say about it?
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_00: Where might we land?
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_00: Well, there are lots of ways that you can bring transformation into the world.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_00: There are lots of ways to shake things up in unconventional ways.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: You can do that in most industries.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_00: You can do that in art or politics or activism or journalism or science or medicine.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_00: But,
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think I'd lean towards politics or activism necessarily on this one because
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_00: what seems eye-catching here is just the sheer intellectual brilliance in this
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_00: chart that we talked about.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_00: Not that world leaders can't be brilliant.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_00: But it wouldn't appear that this is what we're looking at.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_00: It seems a little too technical for that to me.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_00: This Uranus in the third house in Virgo, it just seems too genius and too technical.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_00: So, of course, I know whose chart this is and that always helps.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_00: But I really do see some kind of technology or technological advancement or science
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_00: or research or something there.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_00: There's something very academic,
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_00: but in a way that's more analytical and precise than the humanities or the arts
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: would typically allow for.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, that is in fact the case, because this natal chart belongs to Albert Einstein.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_00: He was born on March 14, 1879.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_00: And of course,
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_00: Pretty much everybody knows who he is, unless you've been living under a rock all your life.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_00: He was a physicist,
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_00: most well known for developing the theory of relativity and for making numerous
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: other contributions to the world of physics,
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_00: Nobel Prize winner.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_00: He changed the scientific community socially also, as well as through his work.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_00: He was also a pretty philosophical guy.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_00: He was very open and very public about his progressive views on the world.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: and also about his thoughts on religion.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_00: He was agnostic and he once called himself a deeply religious non-believer because
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_00: he didn't believe in any specific religion.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_00: Incidentally,
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_00: I find it super interesting that he has that Jupiter squaring Pluto in the 11th
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: house in the sign of Taurus.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_00: When you consider that he played a minor role and,
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: I repeat minor because he wasn't directly involved in the advent of nuclear weapons.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_00: He didn't invent the atomic bomb or develop the bomb or really have any,
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: association with it directly.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_00: But his equation,
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_00: E equals MC squared,
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_00: made it possible for the atom bomb to be invented and developed by the work of others.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_00: So it was kind of a domino effect that resulted from some of his work.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_00: So in that context,
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_00: one could look at Pluto in the 11th house as a more literal peril and death,
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_00: which I don't always do,
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_00: but it seems almost a little more literal in that context.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_00: A literal peril for the collective and in the sign of Taurus,
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: which is all about stability and steadiness and enjoyment of life.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, nuclear weapons or their existence and the arms race that followed
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_00: completely disrupted people's sense of stability and safety in the world.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_00: And he's also got
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_00: Chiron in the 11th too and he has his nodes on the you know second eighth axis so
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_00: there's that push-pull between stability and transformation or even just you know
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_00: the eighth house north node you know looking deeper into the inner workings of
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_00: things and figuring stuff out that no one's ever unearthed or seen or figured out
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_00: before this is a very very interesting chart to say the very least
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_00: So that's a great exercise to be doing.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_00: And it's going to give you stuff to chew on for quite a while.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_00: Believe me, people can spend years unpacking this stuff.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: And just when you think you have your chart all figured out,
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: your perspective shifts or something happens that has you looking at yourself
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_00: through a new lens and you go right back to it and start seeing your chart in all
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: sorts of ways you hadn't before.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_00: That's one of the reasons I love astrology so much is because you never stop learning.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_00: and you never stop having new ideas.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I think that's plenty for now.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to wrap this up.
• 23:13
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• 23:29
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• 23:31
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• 23:35
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