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258: Sister Wives Rewind - Boys Night Out (S16 E13) · Reality TV Cringe

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Speaker 1: We are here to talk sister wives, hoodie. We are
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Speaker 1: currently in season six going through the archives and the
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Speaker 1: wives are having a bit of a problem in that
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Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening. I do have some suspicions. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: we have some additional things to talk about. And tonight,
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Speaker 1: let me tell you say, we've got some things to
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Speaker 1: talk about concerning Welcome to Plaid, Phil, I got drama,
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Speaker 1: what's going on with that? Also, apparently there was somebody
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Speaker 1: who asked Mary Brown a question live on Instagram about
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Speaker 1: Cody and his punk ast and she answered, but did
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Speaker 1: she actually say anything. Well, we're going to get into
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Speaker 1: it in the after show. And also there was a
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Speaker 1: left to comment in Mormonland about what happens when two
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Now, before we get into our recap, Beatrice, I must
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Speaker 1: ask you, what is your primary takeaway? I already know listen,
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Speaker 1: I already know what you're gonna say. But what is
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Speaker 1: your takeaway from this episode?
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Speaker 2: Cody and Brett are giving me hardcore broke back mountain gay, homosexical.
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Speaker 1: Seeming lover yeah, sexual relation wows okay, like.
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Speaker 2: Hardcore, like they probably had like a brow maan.
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Speaker 1: Well, they went on a mission together, and so I
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Speaker 1: got the same vibe as you. I was getting a
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Speaker 1: lot of homo erotessis giving gay. I was remembering I
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Speaker 1: think season one when Cody and the fam go back
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Speaker 1: to his hometown and all of his high school friends
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Speaker 1: are like I swear to god, I thought he was
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Speaker 1: flamboyantly gay gay and I also thought he was and
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Speaker 1: I still think he's not flamboyantly gay, but I think
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Speaker 1: he's gay.
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Speaker 3: I think he's a little gay gay.
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Speaker 1: And so we got this guy coming into town and
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Speaker 1: rolling up with his wife and I'm just like, Monicle,
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Speaker 1: something sexual is going on here. Oh yeah, same, same takeaway.
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Speaker 1: I have the same takeaway.
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Speaker 2: I'm glad we're on the same page with that.
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Speaker 1: Yes, So, without further ado, let's get into the recap.
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Speaker 1: We are on season six, episode thirty.
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Speaker 2: Entitled Boys Night Out.
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a hot boys night Out. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: have a lot of fun wrestling and stuff with all
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Speaker 1: bodies and everything. I can't wait, love it. Take it away, Patrice.
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Speaker 2: Well, we start off the episode with kind of like
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Speaker 2: a stupid segment at the beginning where we're going to
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Speaker 2: tour different venues for their dumb recommitment and like Christine's
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Speaker 2: freaking out because it's kind of expensive.
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Speaker 1: Ten thousand, ten thousand?
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Speaker 2: Does that include kay no, does not doesn't to get
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Speaker 2: married or not to get married, but to have a
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Speaker 2: recommitment ceremony at a facility that also hosts gay marriages, yes, Sarah.
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Speaker 1: Interestingly, they did say that. Did you notice that Cody
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Speaker 1: was talking about how this was his party? Yep, And
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Speaker 1: because it was a party for him, he was willing
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Speaker 1: to spend all the money. But if it was a
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Speaker 1: party for anybody else then he wouldn't be willing to
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Speaker 1: open up his wallet.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because he said something like it's my image at
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Speaker 2: stake or something like this is for me, And I'm like, oh, okay, yeah,
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Speaker 2: got it. We're already starting with that in season six.
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Speaker 2: It kind of like, uh, what's the term for when
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Speaker 2: you're disillusioned? I guess that's the term.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it kind of like that would be it
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Speaker 1: kind of just like, man.
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Speaker 2: I thought Cody was like a better guy in the
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Speaker 2: earlier season. So now I'm like, we're washing him back,
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Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, he's always been a piece of shit.
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Speaker 1: Well he's a he's a highly insecure person, because just
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Speaker 1: in this episode alone, we've got him referring to himself
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Speaker 1: as an alpha male, Yeah, as like the consummate leader
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Speaker 1: of a family, when he's nothing of the sore, Like
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Speaker 1: he's just constantly puffing himself up to make him self
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Speaker 1: look like a manly provider. Where the reality is is
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Speaker 1: that that's not what he is, and maybe that's why
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Speaker 1: he's insecure. Plus he's gay. Plus plus he's gay, and
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Speaker 1: he's in a cult, and you can't just come out
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Speaker 1: and say I'm get gay. So I'm instead going to
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Speaker 1: marry for women and have a mess of kids so
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Speaker 1: that nobody would even suspect that I'm gay, not knowing
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Speaker 1: that at some point in the future, too, robust raccoons
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Speaker 1: are going to roll onto the scene and we're gonna
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Speaker 1: see in two point two seconds that man is gay.
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Speaker 1: That's a game. I'm looking at, a game that is.
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Speaker 2: A big old game.
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Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm going crazy. And you know I love my
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Speaker 1: gay men, I love gay women, I love the gay
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Speaker 1: I love people.
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Speaker 2: I love people.
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Speaker 1: And if Cody is gay, I think we should hashtag
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Speaker 1: free Cody Brown hotly. I want him to live his
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Speaker 1: whole gay experience. What I don't want him to do
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Speaker 1: is implode in on himself and become a hateful person
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Speaker 1: who takes it out on women and children, which unfortunately
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Speaker 1: is the way that what that's what he's doing.
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Speaker 2: But like, just imagine a world where like Robin ended
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Speaker 2: up his favorite wife just because she pegs him. Oh yeah,
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Speaker 2: because that's how he gets his little That's how he
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Speaker 2: gets his Nixon, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: Like he can truly be himself with Robin Robin playing
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Speaker 1: the role of a top. Can you imagine Cody Brown
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Speaker 1: like on a Pride float in a speedo just I
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Speaker 1: can ill baby oiled up. Yeah, everything, just gyrating. I
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Speaker 1: can see that so easily.
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Speaker 3: Me too.
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Speaker 1: I want that for him so much. I want that
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Speaker 1: for us.
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Speaker 2: I want that for us too, very much. And then
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Speaker 2: we get onto the wrestling mats and we have Cody's bff,
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Speaker 2: Brett and his wife Ava comeing to visit. And I
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Speaker 2: guess Brett and Cody were BFFs back in college. They
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Speaker 2: went on a Mormon mission together and they formed what
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Speaker 2: Cody called a cosmic romance or a cosmic brotherhood or
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Speaker 2: something bounce. And it's been a few years since they've
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Speaker 2: seen each other, but he's coming to visit and comeing
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Speaker 2: to see how they're doing in Vegas. And he's also
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Speaker 2: going to help them install wrestling mats per Hunter at
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Speaker 2: Janelle's house with also Janelle's personal trainer who's just there
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Speaker 2: for the check.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, why is Sean here? We don't need to Bo's bread.
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Speaker 1: We've never met Brett. It's season six. I think the
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Speaker 1: reality is that Cody doesn't actually have male friends who
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Speaker 1: would want to be friends with them. So like there's
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Speaker 1: this empty space inside of him that only a man
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Speaker 1: can fill. And so like anytime any man is willing
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Speaker 1: to roll up into Vegas and pretend to be his
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Speaker 1: bro like his dad's like, Oh, I'm going to get
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Speaker 1: wrestling mats. Yeah, this is going to be so good.
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Speaker 2: We're going to produce.
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Speaker 1: Content and then you and me we can put our
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Speaker 1: short song. Yeah, we cane wrestle together. It's going to
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Speaker 1: be great.
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Speaker 2: And so they go to Janelle's house with the wrestling mats,
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Speaker 2: and Janelle's like, I need to be able to use
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Speaker 2: my garage, though I don't want these fucking fuck shit
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Speaker 2: matts crowd up mugara.
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Speaker 1: I've got like boxes, have a million kids, Like a
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Speaker 1: normal garage would have things in it and stuff.
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Speaker 2: Yep. So she's pissed, and Christine kind of offers up
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Speaker 2: her garage because it's clean. She cleaned it out specifically
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Speaker 2: for Cody. She wanted it Cody to have space in
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Speaker 2: the garage that he hasn't utilized yet, and so she
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Speaker 2: offers up her garage to have the mats installed there.
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Speaker 2: But in order to do that, she has to negotiate
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Speaker 2: with Cody privately without their mics.
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Speaker 1: Right. Well, she asks him if they can have a
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Speaker 1: private discussion, and Cody's like, oh, you're going to try
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Speaker 1: and blackmail me. Yeah, So in order for me to
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Speaker 1: put these mats into your garage, I'm going to have
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Speaker 1: to give you something. And then we see them go
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Speaker 1: off to the side somewhere and I'm trying to remember
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Speaker 1: what Christine negotiates for more time?
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Speaker 2: Well, this is all according to Cody. Cody says that
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Speaker 2: she negotiated for him spending more time at her house,
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Speaker 2: more grocery money, and for him to be a better husband.
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Speaker 1: Okay, but can we just talk about the grocery money part,
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Speaker 1: because I was like, what do you mean more grocery money?
11:08
Speaker 1: We are on season six, you are all living in McMansions.
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Speaker 1: My suspicion is that each wife gets the same amount
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Speaker 1: for groceries. And Christine has what five or six kids?
11:20
Speaker 1: I can six, it's five or six kids, So she's
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Speaker 1: got six kids. Is she getting the same amount for
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Speaker 1: groceries as Mary is getting for groceries. Like she's in
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Speaker 1: this moment negotiating so that she can feed her children. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: which Cody is calling blackmail, which is crazy.
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Speaker 2: And He's like I had to make a deal with
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Speaker 2: her to install these mats into the garage. And I'm like, dude,
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Speaker 2: just give her some more money.
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Speaker 1: She's literally just asking for you to be a good
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Speaker 1: husband and kind of be around from time to time.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And like if that's the case, if every wife
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Speaker 2: is getting the same grocery money, and like Mary is
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Speaker 2: getting more, for example, even though she only has one
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Speaker 2: child to feed, that's crazy. But also like, is it
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Speaker 2: Robin starting to is she starting to siphon some of
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Speaker 2: the money over because she's got her fake nail, She's
12:09
Speaker 2: got all these little jewelry, this jewelry on, she's got
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Speaker 2: her little blazers. I'm like, you're looking awfully nice.
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Speaker 1: She's starting to bling bling out. In season six, they're
12:18
Speaker 1: starting to actually work with real money. They're manifesting, they're
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Speaker 1: becoming the architects of their lives. Yeah, but for somebody
12:25
Speaker 1: like Mary, she's getting the equal amount of resources so
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Speaker 1: she can stockpile her money, she can pay for Leon's tuition,
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Speaker 1: she can pay and should pay for Leon's car, as
12:36
Speaker 1: opposed to going to the rest of the family like
12:38
Speaker 1: she did in the last episode asking for them to
12:40
Speaker 1: pay for Leon's pricey private tuition, like, no, you're getting
12:44
Speaker 1: the same amount of money, then save it then.
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Speaker 2: Right, exactly, It's not really fair for everybody else to
12:49
Speaker 2: have to fork up more of their money when Janelle
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Speaker 2: and Christine are seemingly scraping by, well, everyone else is
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Speaker 2: just like living their life and doing their thing. It's
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Speaker 2: kind of crazy that she had to even negotiate that
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Speaker 2: with Cody to begin with. But nevertheless, they come to
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Speaker 2: some kind of agreement and she installs the mats at
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Speaker 2: her house at Christine's house yep. And then when they
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Speaker 2: have the mats installed, this is where Cody and Brett
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Speaker 2: changed into their little shorts.
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Speaker 1: Yes they did, and they they wrestled there on those
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Speaker 1: mats and get all sweaty, yes, get all close to
13:21
Speaker 1: each other as in Face sixty in phase, and everybody's
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Speaker 1: just standing around laughing and uncomfortably watching Cody's aroused being
13:33
Speaker 1: a peacock with this guy Prett. It was just cringeastic.
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Speaker 2: It was so cringe. And this is where we hear
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Speaker 2: more of their backstory. So when they went and served
13:43
Speaker 2: their Mormon mission together, after they engaged in a lot
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Speaker 2: of kase sex.
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Speaker 3: Allegedly in our opinion only, this is the es I'm getting, Okay,
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Speaker 3: after their Mormon mission, this is where they started to
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Speaker 3: split off into two paths.
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Speaker 2: This is how Brett describes it. Because I guess Brett
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Speaker 2: was like having a crisis of faith because he's gay.
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Speaker 2: He decided to leave the Mormon church or like kind
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Speaker 2: of distance himself from the Mormon Church, whereas Cody went
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Speaker 2: the complete opposite direction and became more fundamentalist, joined his
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Speaker 2: polygamist church because he wanted to please his daddy, and
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Speaker 2: their friendship kind of I guess fractured.
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Speaker 1: Well, they ultimately end up having an antagonistic argument about
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Speaker 1: Joseph Smith, and apparently it was bad, and so they
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Speaker 1: broke off at that point and then didn't speak for
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Speaker 1: five years. So presumably at some point Brett rotates back
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Speaker 1: into his life. I'm not sure how I can't quit
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Speaker 1: you or why, but like, yeah, so they've been peripheral
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Speaker 1: in each other's lives since then. But yeah, so it
14:52
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like Brett is religious at all. In fact,
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Speaker 1: he just believes in God. And that's the only thing
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Speaker 1: that he has in common in terms faith with Cody's
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Speaker 1: that they both believe in a God.
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Speaker 2: And that's it, Yeah, exactly. And so now that they're
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Speaker 2: back in each other's lives, like, Cody invited Brett to his.
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Speaker 1: Wedding, it feels so good.
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Speaker 2: He invited him to his wedding with Robin, and Brett
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Speaker 2: showed up and then he like left early. And this
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Speaker 2: is where Cody recounts it, and he's like, he starts crying.
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Speaker 2: It's crazy. He starts crying, weird dude, And he's like,
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Speaker 2: that was the only time that I felt so lonely.
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Speaker 1: When Brett left the reception for that. He showed up
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Speaker 1: for the wedding, stayed for the reception, but he had
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Speaker 1: to leave kind of in the middle of it. And
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Speaker 1: this is where Cody's like, like, I really felt that watching
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Speaker 1: him walk out the door was the first time I
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Speaker 1: had felt lonely.
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Speaker 2: Which is crazy.
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Speaker 1: What's happening right now.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, you're marrying your favorite wife, right.
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Speaker 1: There's one hundred people here at this reception, but this
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Speaker 1: one guy is leaving and now you're feeling lonely. And
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Speaker 1: that was a few years ago, maybe two or three
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Speaker 1: years ago, four years ago. You're recounting it and you're crying.
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Speaker 1: Why you're talking.
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Speaker 2: About homosexual love is real?
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Speaker 1: It's real, absolutely, well, you know that love is absolutely
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Speaker 1: one love, one love.
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Speaker 2: Like I'm just watching that, I'm like, I know a
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Speaker 2: gay man when I see.
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Speaker 1: Sure, that's a man in love, totally heart activated, et phone,
16:17
Speaker 1: motherfucking home.
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Speaker 2: I mean, look, I mean, to be real, yeah, Brett's
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Speaker 2: kind of handsome.
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Speaker 1: Now well, yeah, I mean I guess, yeah, well for
16:24
Speaker 1: for a for a you know, a generic, nondescript Caucasian person,
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Speaker 1: he's great. I mean, he's certainly better looking comparatively than
16:33
Speaker 1: say Cody, Oh definitely. Yeah, so I could see how
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Speaker 1: Cody would have a crush on him, Oh for sure.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. But anyway, Brett starts talking about polygamy and how
16:42
Speaker 2: he doesn't envy Cody at all, and actually he's worried
16:44
Speaker 2: about him. He's worried about how he has to manage
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Speaker 2: all of these women, yeah, and all these marriages. And
16:50
Speaker 2: it kind of felt to me like Brett was trying
16:53
Speaker 2: to pick up on the fact that, like the wives
16:55
Speaker 2: were not happy. Yes, but it kind of seemed like
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Speaker 2: the way it was edited that he was like repping
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Speaker 2: for Cody more.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like he's talking about having seen Cody running around
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Speaker 1: and being super busy and like constantly taking care of
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Speaker 1: all these different kids and wives and homes, and that
17:13
Speaker 1: there was like underlying tension in the family. Like so
17:17
Speaker 1: I felt like he was trying to call that out. Yeah,
17:19
Speaker 1: he didn't really know what was going on, maybe, but
17:22
Speaker 1: he was trying to alert us. And then later in
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Speaker 1: this episode we get his wife, Ava, who also has
17:27
Speaker 1: some opinions on the matter. So apparently though, when Brett
17:30
Speaker 1: and Ava go to visit in this episode, they both
17:33
Speaker 1: feel like something is amiss, something is wrong in the
17:36
Speaker 1: family with the wives and Cody.
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Speaker 2: Which is crazy because they're trying to portray like they're fine,
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Speaker 2: I mean not really, like Christine says that she's sad
17:43
Speaker 2: and everything, like it's obvious, but they are trying to
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Speaker 2: like keep it together. But like you have these friends
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Speaker 2: coming into town and they're.
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Speaker 1: Like, damnious, what's going on over here?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: What the fuck?
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Speaker 2: And so then everybody kind of breaks off because after
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Speaker 2: Cody and Brett finish wrestling, they go and take a
17:59
Speaker 2: shower today together.
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Speaker 1: Well, Cody does say, let's go get a shower. I mean,
18:04
Speaker 1: and I had to wonder to myself together I know,
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Speaker 1: separately whose house cameras.
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Speaker 2: I was thinking, I'm like, can the cameras follow that?
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Speaker 1: Can I see great?
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Speaker 2: I'd like to see it. I want to see. Anyway,
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Speaker 2: they go shower together, and then the guys go and
18:19
Speaker 2: do their thing, and then the girls do their own thing,
18:21
Speaker 2: and so all of the whis end up taking a
18:24
Speaker 2: trip to some zoo or something like that.
18:27
Speaker 1: Well, this is where we learn that Robin unequivocally does
18:32
Speaker 1: not like animals evil and I don't get it, and
18:35
Speaker 1: I don't understand, like I do. I do understand somebody
18:38
Speaker 1: saying like, you know what, I animals are great. Of course,
18:41
Speaker 1: the animals are beautiful. I just don't want to live
18:43
Speaker 1: with animals. They don't have like a life that can
18:45
Speaker 1: support that nonsense for me. Same as somebody saying like,
18:49
Speaker 1: I'm you know, children or children babies are great, but
18:51
Speaker 1: I don't want any babies. And that's completely valid. But
18:54
Speaker 1: like Robin just coming out of the gate and saying like, yeah,
18:57
Speaker 1: I don't like animals. They poop and they pee and
19:00
Speaker 1: I'm not into it.
19:01
Speaker 2: And then she's like at the zoo and she's like
19:03
Speaker 2: giving stank face to every animal, like she's like not
19:06
Speaker 2: even petting them. She thinks they're all disgusting. I'm just like, wow,
19:10
Speaker 2: you're kind of bitz.
19:11
Speaker 1: I mean, like, didn't your own children poop and pee?
19:14
Speaker 1: Like what did you? Oh, you got a nanny. That's right, right,
19:16
Speaker 1: you didn't have to deal with exactly, you just got
19:18
Speaker 1: yourself a nanny exactly. Yeah.
19:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Robin's like freaking out by all the animals
19:23
Speaker 2: touching her because how dare animals touch It's ridiculous. Meanwhile,
19:30
Speaker 2: you have Mary just having a snake necklace, just walking around.
19:35
Speaker 1: Truly like holding Truly and truly's petting the snake holding Christine.
19:40
Speaker 1: Both Mary and Christine are petting the snake. And then
19:43
Speaker 1: Janelle goes up to a camel and shares a carrot
19:47
Speaker 1: right out of her mouth. And yeah, all of the
19:49
Speaker 1: kids are doing it. Everybody's having a great time, except
19:51
Speaker 1: for Robin, who's hanging back and just judging everybody because
19:55
Speaker 1: she doesn't like animals. I'm sorry, something is wrong with
19:57
Speaker 1: you if like you don't like the entire animal kingdom.
20:00
Speaker 2: Agreed.
20:01
Speaker 1: I can understand if you said, you know, I don't
20:02
Speaker 1: like cats, Like, sure, cats don't get off, but you
20:05
Speaker 1: don't like animals.
20:06
Speaker 2: Not a single animal animal. I know. I'm like, there's
20:10
Speaker 2: got to be an animal.
20:10
Speaker 1: You think it's cute.
20:13
Speaker 2: Demon Well, and you've seen the footage of her with
20:17
Speaker 2: the dog.
20:17
Speaker 1: Right kicking Mary's dog.
20:19
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, she's evil.
20:20
Speaker 1: So did not hesitate to kick a dog? No, didn't
20:23
Speaker 1: even think about it. Probably didn't even realize she.
20:26
Speaker 2: Kicked a dog. No, not at all. And then we
20:28
Speaker 2: have Ava Brett's wife having a little commentary to herself
20:33
Speaker 2: to the camera saying that you know, yeah, it's interesting
20:37
Speaker 2: observing the wives and observing their polygamous family because they're
20:40
Speaker 2: everything that they portray themselves to be, although you do
20:43
Speaker 2: feel some tension sometimes every now and then, but like, yeah,
20:47
Speaker 2: they seem to love each other. Yeah.
20:50
Speaker 1: I was wondering what tension she was referring to. But
20:53
Speaker 1: when we get to the picnic portion of the women's
20:56
Speaker 1: day out and we kind of get to Mary and
20:59
Speaker 1: we're asking Mary to like, how are you doing? How
21:01
Speaker 1: are you feeling? Like Mary is not happy in her
21:04
Speaker 1: life right now, not happy at all. And we also
21:07
Speaker 1: have Janelle saying something like, yeah, like we used to
21:10
Speaker 1: meet for dinner two to three times a week, and
21:12
Speaker 1: we really haven't done that since Robin came. Yep, I
21:16
Speaker 1: did say that, right, we really haven't done that in
21:18
Speaker 1: a while. Maybe we should get back to that. And
21:20
Speaker 1: then Robin says something like, well, yeah, you know, Janelle
21:24
Speaker 1: and Christine and I we hang out together, but like Mary,
21:29
Speaker 1: we don't really see you a lot. And that's probably
21:31
Speaker 1: because we have kids. Yeah, you don't because you're infertile
21:35
Speaker 1: and you're not really a woman, and that's why Cody
21:37
Speaker 1: doesn't love you. Because of course Robin brings up Mary's
21:42
Speaker 1: infertility or issues conceiving or whatever. Anytime Robin can bring
21:46
Speaker 1: that up, she does. Oh and she does it right
21:49
Speaker 1: here at the picnic.
21:49
Speaker 3: I know.
21:50
Speaker 2: It's like constant. It's so hurtful. And of course, like Mary,
21:54
Speaker 2: she doesn't really get emotional at the picnic per se.
21:57
Speaker 2: She clams up, though she does. She clams up because
22:01
Speaker 2: she can't talk about vulnerability at all. And it was
22:04
Speaker 2: just like really weird. Like I think Robin was the
22:07
Speaker 2: one to point it out too, that Mary tends to
22:09
Speaker 2: withdraw from the family, like when she's like not feeling
22:12
Speaker 2: well or like she's going through a tough time, and
22:15
Speaker 2: I think she was like trying to pry that out
22:17
Speaker 2: of Mary, but Mary again walls up, can't do it.
22:21
Speaker 2: And then Christine says something like, well, maybe we should
22:23
Speaker 2: have like more spontaneous times to hang out, Like maybe
22:26
Speaker 2: we should just not really plan it, like let's just
22:29
Speaker 2: make a conscious effort to hang out with each other,
22:31
Speaker 2: even if it's spontaneous, And Robin and Mary laugh at her,
22:35
Speaker 2: and I'm like Christine's genuinely just trying to co sign
22:39
Speaker 2: what Janelle's saying and say like we should hang out together,
22:42
Speaker 2: we should have more time together.
22:44
Speaker 1: And Mary even says something like, yeah, I kind of
22:46
Speaker 1: just prefer to hang out in my house and work
22:48
Speaker 1: on my projects and do the things that interest me.
22:52
Speaker 1: Like Mary is not interested in having friendships with these women,
22:56
Speaker 1: and Robin acting like she's somehow closer to Christine in
23:00
Speaker 1: Janelle versus. Mary is a lie, so she doesn't hang
23:03
Speaker 1: out with any of these women. Now, is this the
23:06
Speaker 1: part where we get the women on the couch And
23:09
Speaker 1: Christine says something like, yeah, with Cody, you can always
23:14
Speaker 1: tell which wife he's been hanging around when he comes
23:17
Speaker 1: to your house, because he talks differently, he acts differently.
23:22
Speaker 1: What did you make of that statement from Christine.
23:25
Speaker 2: That was crazy? I mean the fact that she had
23:27
Speaker 2: the balls to say that, like on the couch on DV,
23:30
Speaker 2: Like you could tell that Cody and Robin off guard
23:33
Speaker 2: because they both looked at each other like very like suspicious,
23:36
Speaker 2: like oh my god, they caught us, like they just
23:38
Speaker 2: thought it was so weird that she pointed it out.
23:41
Speaker 2: But Janelle co signed it too, so did Mary, Like
23:43
Speaker 2: I can tell he you've been talking to by some
23:45
Speaker 2: of the things that you say, and Mary says the
23:47
Speaker 2: same thing, and.
23:48
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, oh yes, and that's the tension. Yeah,
23:53
Speaker 1: And that's where we're having a disconnect with these women
23:56
Speaker 1: because he is at this point in twenty fourteen, I
23:59
Speaker 1: think we are spending way more time with Robin, and
24:02
Speaker 1: he's becoming indoctrinated to her way of thinking, being and existing.
24:07
Speaker 1: And so by the time he deigns to spend any
24:10
Speaker 1: time with the other wives, he's mimicking her. He's parroting
24:13
Speaker 1: the same talking points. He's changing as a person. And
24:17
Speaker 1: we have always said, like, yeah, Cody might be the
24:20
Speaker 1: head of the family, but Robin is the neck and
24:22
Speaker 1: the neck turns the head exact and so he's changing
24:25
Speaker 1: and the women are noticing it, and that is causing
24:27
Speaker 1: this underlying rift between everybody.
24:30
Speaker 2: Oh definitely, I mean you can already feel it. And like,
24:33
Speaker 2: I think the wives are trying to get together more
24:36
Speaker 2: just because they're all lonely. Like I think that's the reason.
24:39
Speaker 2: I think they also have Cody in their ear telling them,
24:41
Speaker 2: like they have to be better sister wise, and they
24:43
Speaker 2: have to be more together as a family because in Sedona,
24:48
Speaker 2: you guys hate each other, and like, if I die,
24:51
Speaker 2: the family's not going to be around. Like I think
24:53
Speaker 2: that they're trying really hard to be a family, to
24:57
Speaker 2: try and be friends with everybody, but they can't be
25:00
Speaker 2: because Robin doesn't like any of them. I don't think Mary.
25:04
Speaker 1: I don't think Mary does. I don't think Janelle really
25:07
Speaker 1: does either, although Janelle just seems more laid back and
25:10
Speaker 1: able to assimilate into different things, like she's not going
25:13
Speaker 1: to be any problem. But I do think it's a
25:15
Speaker 1: problem for Robin interacting with these other women, And I
25:18
Speaker 1: do think it's a problem for Mary because Mary doesn't
25:21
Speaker 1: trust these other women, and you know, like even though
25:23
Speaker 1: her walls are going up in this picnic scene. Like
25:26
Speaker 1: in her defense, I can see why because she's on
25:28
Speaker 1: camera and she knows this conversation is performative. She knows
25:32
Speaker 1: as soon as the camera's shut down, like they're going
25:35
Speaker 1: to go back to doing the exact same thing that
25:36
Speaker 1: they've been doing, that nobody really cares about her. That
25:40
Speaker 1: Cody hasn't been sharing her home in her space for
25:43
Speaker 1: probably a year or more at this point, yep, So
25:46
Speaker 1: she knows this is all fake, and so she's not
25:47
Speaker 1: going to be vulnerable in front of these women because
25:50
Speaker 1: they don't truly care. Now. What I thought was interesting, though,
25:54
Speaker 1: is that while these conversations are going on, like Ava
25:57
Speaker 1: is there, it actually begins with Ava bringing up polygamy
26:02
Speaker 1: and her expectations of this family because she's like, I
26:04
Speaker 1: honestly thought that Cody was going to be a PERV,
26:08
Speaker 1: Like when Brett told me that y'all were polygamous, I
26:10
Speaker 1: was sincerely grossed out, Like, you know, how could anybody
26:14
Speaker 1: live like this? And this guy must be a PERV,
26:16
Speaker 1: which is so offensive. So like just comes out and
26:21
Speaker 1: says that, And I was looking at the faces of
26:24
Speaker 1: the wives like they don't know who she is, uh uh,
26:27
Speaker 1: Like they're just filming something with this rando woman that
26:31
Speaker 1: Brett brought with him, yep. And like she's calling them
26:34
Speaker 1: out for like thinking they had a degenerate lifestyle and
26:37
Speaker 1: they did not like that at all, and I don't
26:39
Speaker 1: blame them.
26:40
Speaker 2: No, of course not. And then she also starts grilling
26:43
Speaker 2: them about like Cody and him not showing PDA and
26:46
Speaker 2: affection to all of the wives, and she's like, so
26:49
Speaker 2: I've noticed something. When he's around all four of you,
26:52
Speaker 2: he doesn't show any kind of affection. Why is that?
26:55
Speaker 1: And I'm like, girl, like, wow, you don't even know
26:58
Speaker 1: these people.
26:58
Speaker 2: It's kind of crazy. I'm like TLC producers, put you please,
27:02
Speaker 2: this is nuts. But like the women just give their
27:05
Speaker 2: same old spiel of like, well, Blake, you know, we
27:08
Speaker 2: don't want to just thrown in our face, like Mary
27:10
Speaker 2: says that, like we know that he's fucking everybody else,
27:14
Speaker 2: I mean mainly Robin, but like we just don't want
27:17
Speaker 2: to be shown that because it'll make us feel bad
27:21
Speaker 2: or whatever.
27:22
Speaker 1: I think it was Christine who says though, that it
27:24
Speaker 1: was Cody's idea that they did not show public displays
27:28
Speaker 1: of refection, whereas we were told that he was affectionate
27:32
Speaker 1: with Mary, and then it was Janelle's mom, Cheryl, who
27:35
Speaker 1: came along and said, like, this is upsetting to Janelle's
27:38
Speaker 1: so don't do this. So I'm just like, it's very
27:40
Speaker 1: interesting to see where the lore comes from.
27:42
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's like who's telling the truth? Nobody, nobody.
27:46
Speaker 2: We don't know what's true, what's real because they keep
27:49
Speaker 2: changing the fucking script every few years. It's so annoying. Yep.
27:52
Speaker 2: And then Ava says I think to the camera, like
27:55
Speaker 2: I don't understand why they can't show PDA, like they
27:57
Speaker 2: know he's sleeping with all of them, Like it does
28:00
Speaker 2: it makes sense to me?
28:00
Speaker 1: And I'm like yeah, but I mean, at the same time,
28:03
Speaker 1: you're in a monogamous relationship and you're sitting out here
28:06
Speaker 1: commenting on somebody in an alternative lifestyle. You have no
28:08
Speaker 1: lived experience in this lifestyle, and it's just like kind
28:11
Speaker 1: of condescending for you to have an opinion at all.
28:13
Speaker 1: They invited you into their space, they're sharing this time
28:16
Speaker 1: with you, and the least you could be is just
28:18
Speaker 1: nice about it, yeah, as opposed to like looking for
28:20
Speaker 1: all the things that could be wrong.
28:22
Speaker 2: Right and analyzing their family.
28:23
Speaker 1: And it's like her I didn't really like bread either. Interesting.
28:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe we'll talk about that later.
28:29
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe we will.
28:30
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then after we have this conversation at the picnic,
28:35
Speaker 2: then we have the conversation on the couch with all
28:38
Speaker 2: the wives, and this is where Mary talks about becoming
28:41
Speaker 2: an empty nester because Leon's going to college and I'm snory.
28:47
Speaker 2: You know. Mary gets really emotional here, and this is
28:50
Speaker 2: where she starts crying because she doesn't know like what
28:52
Speaker 2: her role is going to be in life, what her
28:54
Speaker 2: role is going to be in the family because she's
28:56
Speaker 2: the only one with one child. And then she talks
28:59
Speaker 2: about Howdy doesn't understand her experience because he's not actually
29:03
Speaker 2: gonna be an empty nester. It's just Mary, and I
29:06
Speaker 2: think like all the subtext here is that she's lonely,
29:10
Speaker 2: af and nobody seems to care. Like she's literally crying
29:14
Speaker 2: on the couch and all of the wives have stank faces,
29:17
Speaker 2: like Janelle's not looking at her. Christine's kind of engaging,
29:20
Speaker 2: but like also isn't sympathetic or saying anything.
29:23
Speaker 1: Not reaching out and just saying, oh, I totally understand.
29:26
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how you feel. Necessarily, but
29:30
Speaker 1: I totally understand that you're feeling emotional. I'm here for
29:32
Speaker 1: Like nobody reaches out to support Mary in that moment.
29:36
Speaker 2: Not at all, And like Mary even starts thanking Christine
29:39
Speaker 2: and Janelle for being there for her while they were
29:42
Speaker 2: all raising all of the kids, not just Leon, but
29:45
Speaker 2: like she thanks Janelle and Christine for even all of
29:49
Speaker 2: the tough years and everything, like I'm glad that you
29:50
Speaker 2: guys were there and I really appreciate it. And then
29:53
Speaker 2: she cries to Robin and is like, I'm really sorry
29:55
Speaker 2: that you weren't there, and like nobody's saying anything, nobody's
29:59
Speaker 2: consoling her, awkward, and like Mary is being so vulnerable
30:02
Speaker 2: trying to be and nobody's saying anything. It's like kind
30:06
Speaker 2: of wild to me. I felt bad for Mary in
30:08
Speaker 2: this moment, but at the same time, it's like.
30:11
Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah, but I mean we've just been
30:13
Speaker 1: having this conversation for quite some time, like with Mary
30:17
Speaker 1: trying to decide whether she was going to use Robin
30:20
Speaker 1: as a surrogate or do IVF for whatever, like that
30:23
Speaker 1: was for three seasons, and she's been trying to wrestle
30:26
Speaker 1: with what her position and her place is in this family,
30:30
Speaker 1: and like that's only ever as deep as we go. Yeah,
30:34
Speaker 1: we never really talk about the other things and the
30:37
Speaker 1: family dynamics which might be lending themselves to her feeling
30:40
Speaker 1: lonely because even on the couch, none of these wives
30:43
Speaker 1: reach out to her, none of these wives try to
30:46
Speaker 1: comfort her, so truly she is alone, and that's sad.
30:50
Speaker 1: But like something a little different, a little bit more information,
30:53
Speaker 1: like why aren't you talking to your sister wives, Like
30:56
Speaker 1: why doesn't Cody come over? Like tell us that's actually
30:58
Speaker 1: happening in your home, because if you're so abjectly lonely,
31:01
Speaker 1: it's because something else is going on that you're not
31:03
Speaker 1: sharing Exact's what's frustrating to me.
31:06
Speaker 2: It's like you probably wouldn't have had such an issue
31:09
Speaker 2: with being an empty nester if you had a healthy
31:11
Speaker 2: relationship with just one adult in the family. Like nobody
31:15
Speaker 2: likes you, not even your husband, not even the older kids.
31:18
Speaker 1: Really well, and I'm wondering how involved Leon has been
31:23
Speaker 1: with Mary in terms of a relationship, but like it
31:25
Speaker 1: might have only ever just been Leon that was Mary's friend, yeah,
31:30
Speaker 1: or that was there to talk with Mary about Mary's issues,
31:33
Speaker 1: And I don't know that Leon was parentified like Logan
31:36
Speaker 1: was and Aspen was, but maybe Leon was. And so
31:39
Speaker 1: now Mary's gonna lose the one person that she's had
31:44
Speaker 1: at her side the entire time, Like that would be devastating. Yeah,
31:48
Speaker 1: but Mary's not sharing at that level, so it's hard
31:51
Speaker 1: for me to even connect with what's happening. And like,
31:53
Speaker 1: why nobody seems to give a crap about Mary. I
31:57
Speaker 1: know it's kind of crazy.
31:58
Speaker 2: But doesn't she meet Jen in Las Vegas?
32:00
Speaker 1: Guess too, So.
32:00
Speaker 2: She'll probably meet Jen soon and it'll be fine. Yeah,
32:03
Speaker 2: and hopefully we can get off of this fucking storyline
32:05
Speaker 2: because it's like it is a lot. I agree with
32:07
Speaker 2: you here. And then we jump on over to Guys Night.
32:11
Speaker 1: Out, Oh Magoid, after everybody had their gate orgy in
32:15
Speaker 1: the shower that we only had to imagine and it
32:18
Speaker 1: was imagining it.
32:19
Speaker 2: I was. I was imagining it too. Yes, Brett, Cody,
32:23
Speaker 2: and Sean go up to the Stratosphere in Las Vegas. Yeah,
32:27
Speaker 2: and they go up to the tippy tippy top and
32:29
Speaker 2: they go bungee jumping, which looked very fun. I've been
32:31
Speaker 2: on the.
32:32
Speaker 1: Stratosphere, Okay, I think I've I don't know if I've
32:34
Speaker 1: been up on the stratosphere.
32:35
Speaker 2: It's fun. I went on the ride where I think
32:38
Speaker 2: it's I can't remember what it's called, but it's the
32:40
Speaker 2: one where you shoot up at the very top of
32:42
Speaker 2: the needle. Very fun. Sounds fun, but the bungee jumping
32:45
Speaker 2: looked great. I would totally do.
32:47
Speaker 1: I would never you could Delia doing something like that.
32:51
Speaker 1: I do not like hidespet I was.
32:53
Speaker 2: What I was telling your daughter today. I'm like, do
32:55
Speaker 2: that for my fiftieth birthday.
32:57
Speaker 1: What about like skydiving? Would you do something like that?
32:59
Speaker 2: I don't know if I could do skydiving because that's
33:01
Speaker 2: like you could die. I mean I could die. Yeah,
33:03
Speaker 2: that's scary. But I would totally do a bunch of
33:06
Speaker 2: jumping ziplining from a top of a cliff like that'd
33:09
Speaker 2: be so great.
33:09
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, that kind of stuff. So the guys seem excited.
33:12
Speaker 1: I think Cody's trying to pretend he's really excited.
33:15
Speaker 2: Yeah.
33:16
Speaker 1: I think the producers have coordinated this event totally. I
33:20
Speaker 1: don't know that Cody was like one hundred percent on board,
33:22
Speaker 1: but like Brett's totally into it. He goes first and
33:24
Speaker 1: he just launches himself off the side of the building,
33:27
Speaker 1: and Cody's like, damn yeah. And then Sean goes next,
33:29
Speaker 1: and Shawn's maybe a little bit nervous, but he launches
33:32
Speaker 1: himself off the building and Cody's just in the background nervous. Yeah,
33:35
Speaker 1: he's talking. He doesn't want to not do it because
33:39
Speaker 1: then he won't be a real man, which is kind
33:41
Speaker 1: of like what the theme of this entire episode is
33:45
Speaker 1: is like how much of a man is Cody? Not
33:47
Speaker 1: much of a man, as it turns out, not much
33:50
Speaker 1: of a man. But he finally gets his turn and
33:53
Speaker 1: he forces himself to launch himself off of the strants there.
33:58
Speaker 1: He screams all the way down, and then they go
34:00
Speaker 1: to dinner and they have a conversation about male leadership
34:05
Speaker 1: and I'm a snoring.
34:08
Speaker 2: I kind of hated this conversation because the men were
34:10
Speaker 2: kind of coming for like the wives and just telling
34:13
Speaker 2: Cody like, how can you deal with all these women?
34:17
Speaker 2: Am I right? How can you deal with all these
34:19
Speaker 2: women in their thoughts and opinions?
34:22
Speaker 1: It's like in their lives and like they're existing around you.
34:26
Speaker 1: Are you okay?
34:27
Speaker 2: Bro? Like? How can you lead with all this estrogen around?
34:30
Speaker 2: It's like shut the fuck up.
34:32
Speaker 1: Well, and Brett's like, you know, I'm obviously in a
34:35
Speaker 1: monogamous relationship with my hoe ass wife Ava. Sorry, and
34:40
Speaker 1: you know, when it comes down to it, like I lead,
34:44
Speaker 1: it's my choice, it's my decision, and she knows that,
34:48
Speaker 1: and so I'm in charge. But like, Cody, my guy,
34:51
Speaker 1: are you really in charge though? Because you seem really
34:53
Speaker 1: busy just running from house to house to house with
34:55
Speaker 1: your hair flipping in the wind, and it seems like
34:57
Speaker 1: your women are actually telling you how it's going to be.
35:01
Speaker 1: So looks like you're a little bit of a cook.
35:03
Speaker 1: That's just what I'm getting. That's what I'm feeling.
35:06
Speaker 2: What they're telling you, a cook man, you're a beta
35:09
Speaker 2: ass simp, Like that's what they're saying.
35:11
Speaker 1: Yes, that's what it was giving.
35:12
Speaker 2: I was kind of watching this and I'm like, damn,
35:14
Speaker 2: I kind of feel bad for Cody just a little
35:16
Speaker 2: bit of this conversation, Like it's kind of great to
35:18
Speaker 2: have these men, like these real men telling him you
35:21
Speaker 2: know what I mean, you know what I mean, Like
35:23
Speaker 2: these these macho men compared to Cody telling him you're
35:27
Speaker 2: a loser.
35:28
Speaker 1: These women are running you around.
35:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a beta and Cody's like, well, I'm an
35:32
Speaker 2: alpha mil.
35:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like he just says those words like I've never
35:36
Speaker 1: met a manly man. Who ever said I'm a manly man? Duh?
35:41
Speaker 1: Like look at me, I'm all man honey, Like right, No,
35:43
Speaker 1: you just know when you're in the presence of a
35:46
Speaker 1: man who's a man exactly, and if you are an
35:49
Speaker 1: insecure man who's trying to compete in the world of men,
35:53
Speaker 1: you say something like I'm an alpha male.
35:55
Speaker 2: I mean, duh.
35:56
Speaker 1: Look, I'm the leader. It's me absolutely. I lead this family.
35:59
Speaker 2: I lead it very subtlely, though, Yeah, that's what he says,
36:02
Speaker 2: very subtle leadership, Like wow, you mean passive leadership.
36:06
Speaker 1: Non leadership is my type of leadership.
36:08
Speaker 2: I guess I kind of wonder if, like all of
36:12
Speaker 2: these conversations that Cody has had on camera so far,
36:15
Speaker 2: and maybe off camera he probably has other guys telling him, like,
36:18
Speaker 2: you're kind of a beta, yeah, Like, I wonder if
36:20
Speaker 2: this started maybe his dad, well maybe.
36:23
Speaker 1: I think his dad is still alive at this point,
36:25
Speaker 1: maybe this.
36:26
Speaker 2: Started his whole like manisphere pipeline like path where he
36:29
Speaker 2: started going down like the alpha male road like the
36:33
Speaker 2: Andrew Tates.
36:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, because when did that emerge in the zeitgeist because
36:36
Speaker 1: this is like twenty fourteen, twenty.
36:38
Speaker 2: Fifteen something like that. I'm thinking, like.
36:40
Speaker 1: Andrew Tait and QAnon and all of that weird stuff
36:44
Speaker 1: started like twenty eighteen.
36:46
Speaker 2: Something like that.
36:47
Speaker 1: But there was, but it was it was in the ether.
36:49
Speaker 2: There had to have been like other alpha males back
36:51
Speaker 2: then that we just didn't.
36:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't paying it. I still don't pay attention.
36:54
Speaker 2: I don't pay attention to it at all. But I
36:56
Speaker 2: just wonder if this kind of started it, because Cody
36:59
Speaker 2: does seem insecure here and like he's trying to prove
37:02
Speaker 2: the fact that he is the leader of his family,
37:05
Speaker 2: and he goes on in his talking head about how
37:07
Speaker 2: he's the leader of his family and like, yeah, I
37:10
Speaker 2: listened to their concerns and everything, but ultimately I'm the man,
37:13
Speaker 2: and they all know that I'm the man, and they
37:15
Speaker 2: all know that I'm the one that makes the decisions.
37:17
Speaker 2: And it's like, okay, I don't think so. And then
37:20
Speaker 2: we go on the couch and we talk about the
37:22
Speaker 2: situation where Janelle refused to move to Utah when they
37:28
Speaker 2: were living in Wyoming, right, and Janelle's the one that
37:30
Speaker 2: brings it up, I think, and she's like, yeah, Cody
37:33
Speaker 2: was trying to tell me that I needed to move
37:34
Speaker 2: to Utah and I'm I'm not gonna do that.
37:36
Speaker 1: Well, actually, Cody is the one who brings up this
37:39
Speaker 1: story to the guys at dinner as if to demonstrate
37:42
Speaker 1: how much of a leader he was. Oh right, Like,
37:45
Speaker 1: the story actually illustrates that he's not a leader, because
37:48
Speaker 1: in the story, he's telling Janelle when they're living in Wyoming, look,
37:51
Speaker 1: I've got this job opportunity in Utah. We've got to go.
37:54
Speaker 1: Let's go. And Janelle's like, absolutely not uncomfortable here. If
37:57
Speaker 1: you want to go, get on go. And so Cody
37:59
Speaker 1: does leave, and then Janelle at some point starts to
38:02
Speaker 1: miss him, and of course she's got children with him,
38:05
Speaker 1: and so she decides on her own because she's a Taurus, Honey,
38:08
Speaker 1: you can't move a Torus until she's ready to go. Yep,
38:10
Speaker 1: she decides on her own that she's going to move
38:12
Speaker 1: to where Cody is in Utah. But like the way
38:14
Speaker 1: Cody's describing it is like, yeah, I won that one,
38:17
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, Actually, Janelle was the leader in that,
38:20
Speaker 1: because Janelle said no, Janelle did exactly what she wanted
38:23
Speaker 1: to do, and when Janelle was ready, she's like, Okay,
38:25
Speaker 1: I missed the d You'm go to move to Utah
38:27
Speaker 1: and then she does Yeah, so Janelle led, Yeah.
38:30
Speaker 2: Good job Cody, Yeah, real leader alpha male. So ridiculous.
38:36
Speaker 2: I said that whole thing was so dumb. And then
38:38
Speaker 2: I think we talk more about like Cody and Brett's relationship,
38:41
Speaker 2: and I just like, don't care at all. And then
38:44
Speaker 2: we end the episode with Mary and her random TLC
38:48
Speaker 2: producer friend Andrea going too Joey Anne Fabrics, Yeah, to
38:52
Speaker 2: pick out fabric for Leon's blanket for college. R Mary's
38:57
Speaker 2: gonna make them a blanket of purple gold and whatever.
39:02
Speaker 2: And this is where Mary again talks about how sad
39:04
Speaker 2: she is of being an empty nester.
39:06
Speaker 1: I did find it interesting, though, that Mary does seem
39:11
Speaker 1: to have a lot of great women friends around her.
39:15
Speaker 1: I think that's a testament to her character overall. And
39:19
Speaker 1: of course we have never met Andrea, and we know
39:22
Speaker 1: that while Mary's in Vegas, she's going to start making
39:25
Speaker 1: more friends and then we're going to have even more
39:27
Speaker 1: friends as the seasons go on. But like, Mary can't
39:30
Speaker 1: be all that bad if She's got friends that are
39:33
Speaker 1: showing up for her when Cody won't, when Robin's not there,
39:37
Speaker 1: when the other wives don't care. You've got this person
39:39
Speaker 1: Andrea who's going to take her to the fabric store
39:41
Speaker 1: maybe to work on this blanket, and they have the
39:43
Speaker 1: conversation about empty nesters, and she has friends there for her.
39:47
Speaker 1: I just think that that says a lot about her. Yeah,
39:51
Speaker 1: it could maybe mean girls have friends though too, that's true,
39:54
Speaker 1: But I mean, like, I don't think she's a mean
39:56
Speaker 1: girl with these women. I think these women genuinely really
39:58
Speaker 1: like Mary. Yeah, that means Mary, he's likable. I think
40:01
Speaker 1: that furthers our argument that Mary just doesn't show us
40:05
Speaker 1: who she really is on this show. Like and she's
40:08
Speaker 1: been talking in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty
40:10
Speaker 1: five about like, you know, worthying up and you're gonna
40:13
Speaker 1: see me and when I can talk, I'm going to talk.
40:16
Speaker 1: Because I guess she's felt the need over all of
40:19
Speaker 1: these seasons to continue to hide, continue to lie, continue
40:23
Speaker 1: to project this beautiful family that never was. So I
40:27
Speaker 1: just think that underneath that all, if we had ever
40:29
Speaker 1: seen the real Mary, she would have been a chill,
40:31
Speaker 1: awesome girl and we would have liked.
40:33
Speaker 2: Her definitely, and maybe if she was the real Mary
40:36
Speaker 2: with like Christine and Chanelle, they probably would have had
40:38
Speaker 2: like a better relationship. And like maybe if they could
40:40
Speaker 2: have actually talked about their issues and stuff and like
40:43
Speaker 2: went to therapy together and actually dug deep into the
40:47
Speaker 2: root of their issues, maybe they could have all been friends.
40:49
Speaker 2: But I digress. Yeah, and then we have the preview
40:53
Speaker 2: where we have Aspen and Leon discussing their parents dancing
40:58
Speaker 2: at their graduations.
41:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, the graduation party and what they want and what
41:02
Speaker 1: they expect, and everybody's super excited about it because they
41:06
Speaker 1: love a party, those Browns.
41:08
Speaker 2: I mean, hey. And then we have Robin saying she
41:10
Speaker 2: wants to hire a fortune teller.
41:12
Speaker 1: Right, well, she does bring in like a tarot card reader,
41:16
Speaker 1: which I'm just like, okay, hold up.
41:17
Speaker 2: At Leon's graduation.
41:18
Speaker 1: At Leon's graduation party. But like there's these rumors again
41:23
Speaker 1: in the ethers about Robin being kind of witchy woo
41:26
Speaker 1: woo and having her crystals and everything in her house
41:29
Speaker 1: and what if she's a witch and we're all talking
41:31
Speaker 1: about manifesting all of a sudden. I don't think she's
41:34
Speaker 1: a witch, Don't get me wrong. I think she's probably
41:36
Speaker 1: a bit new age metaphysical. But it's just curious to
41:39
Speaker 1: me that a bunch of Mormon fundamentalists would have a
41:43
Speaker 1: tarot card reader. I know, like Olivia, maybe that was
41:45
Speaker 1: her first step too of leaving the religion. She got
41:48
Speaker 1: herself a tarot card reading. Maybe that's just bizarre.
41:50
Speaker 2: Taro's the gateway drug, maybe, so it's kind of ridiculous.
41:54
Speaker 2: But the tarot reader says that Cody's gonna have a
41:57
Speaker 2: fifth wife, and Cody seems awkward about that. And then
42:02
Speaker 2: we have Mary at Leon's graduation and she's like freaking
42:05
Speaker 2: the fuck out because she can't see Leon walk down
42:08
Speaker 2: the state right, and she's getting all.
42:09
Speaker 1: Dramatic, having a tantrum.
42:11
Speaker 2: My God, And then we have the graduation party for it,
42:14
Speaker 2: I think Leon ann aspin.
42:15
Speaker 1: Yes, and all the adults are dancing and it's super cringe. Yeah,
42:20
Speaker 1: making it about themselves, of course, because anytime Cody can
42:23
Speaker 1: dance for the public, he's going to do it, and he's.
42:25
Speaker 2: Going to do it so bad.
42:26
Speaker 1: Yes, he is. Well again, you know, this was like
42:29
Speaker 1: kind of a nothing burger episode. Yeah, but if you've
42:32
Speaker 1: got your monocles out and if you're sniffing the air
42:35
Speaker 1: like we do as raccoons, we can smell some homosexicality. Yeah,
42:39
Speaker 1: we can see the tension and things are becoming clear. Yeah,
42:44
Speaker 1: what's going on in the cul de Sac is not good.
42:46
Speaker 1: I just didn't know because I didn't watch these seasons either.
42:48
Speaker 1: I didn't know that it was from the very beginning.
42:51
Speaker 1: I thought like the family started to fall apart, like
42:54
Speaker 1: maybe midway through the cul de Sac journey, But it
42:57
Speaker 1: was like from the first months that it all began.
42:59
Speaker 2: From the ever since Robin came into the picture, like
43:02
Speaker 2: they were struggling.
43:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they thought that the cul de Sac was
43:06
Speaker 1: the answer to bringing it all back together. But like
43:10
Speaker 1: it feels like Robin just ramped up her antics and
43:13
Speaker 1: started demanding more of his time and money. And again
43:16
Speaker 1: you have Janell, who doesn't give a crap as long
43:18
Speaker 1: as she's fine and comfortable. You've got Mary who's just
43:21
Speaker 1: stuck in her silence in her lonely haunted home. And
43:24
Speaker 1: then you get Christine, who at this point is just
43:27
Speaker 1: stewing in her jealousy and having to negotiate for time
43:33
Speaker 1: with Cody by giving her garage up for wrestling mats.
43:36
Speaker 1: It's like actually pretty sad. It is really crazy. I
43:40
Speaker 1: like feel bad for Christine in this moment because she's
43:42
Speaker 1: like angry and justifiably so, like she's upset and sad,
43:46
Speaker 1: but like, who does she have to talk to nobody?
43:48
Speaker 2: Nobody?
43:48
Speaker 1: She just can drop like little bombs on the couch
43:51
Speaker 1: to let everybody else know what's going on.
43:53
Speaker 2: That's it.
43:54
Speaker 1: Oh by the way, if you're watching on YouTube, how
43:56
Speaker 1: many of you have pre ordered Christine books? Oh yeah,
44:01
Speaker 1: drop a comment and or are you looking forward to
44:04
Speaker 1: her book? Do we think that there's going to be
44:06
Speaker 1: something of interest there? Because you know, there was a
44:08
Speaker 1: rumor that Cody got attorneys involved demanding that Christine acts
44:16
Speaker 1: one of the chapters in her book because I guess
44:21
Speaker 1: it dealt with one hundred thousand dollars that went missing
44:24
Speaker 1: out of the family fund. This is the rumor. And
44:26
Speaker 1: I don't know, obviously, and I would hope that Christine
44:30
Speaker 1: wouldn't remove that.
44:31
Speaker 2: From the book.
44:32
Speaker 1: So maybe it will be in the book, But there's
44:34
Speaker 1: a rumor he asked her to remove that part of
44:37
Speaker 1: the book because she was outing him for stealing money allegedly.
44:40
Speaker 1: I don't know, so, I mean, like I kind of
44:42
Speaker 1: want to order it.
44:43
Speaker 2: You should.
44:44
Speaker 1: Well, it's like twenty six bucks and it's just guaranteed
44:48
Speaker 1: to be lame. It's guaranteed to not give me what
44:50
Speaker 1: I want. But I feel like it is our professional duty.
44:53
Speaker 1: We should read it and review it because yeah, I'm
44:58
Speaker 1: sure everybody wants us to. Well, maybe we can talk
45:00
Speaker 1: about it in like the after show. I do like
45:02
Speaker 1: chapter by chapter and like get into it. But I'm
45:04
Speaker 1: just wondering if you guys are interested, are you looking
45:07
Speaker 1: forward to it or you're like, I'm not giving these
45:08
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45:11
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45:13
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45:17
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45:19
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45:23
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45:35
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45:36
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45:39
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45:42
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45:45
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