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Episode 39, Season 1: The Tik Tok Ban: Part II · The Dr. Sarah Hensley Show

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the lovedc Podcast. I'm your co host Rana
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  Speaker 1: Butcher here with our host, doctor Sarah Hensley. What's up,
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  Speaker 1: what's up? How are you?
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing good. We've got some stuff to talk about. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because last time we were here, we did an episode
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  Speaker 2: on the TikTok Ban. So much has gone down.
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  Speaker 1: In a very short period of time.
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  Speaker 2: A week details in a very very short period of time,
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  Speaker 2: and I strongly believe that we still have a lot
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  Speaker 2: of needed action that has to take place, and so
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  Speaker 2: I just want to summarize what went down, summarize what's
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  Speaker 2: to come, and what people need to do to sort
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  Speaker 2: of organize and activate if they would like to keep
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  Speaker 2: TikTok around.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I know that you We mentioned this on
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  Speaker 1: the first part one. So this is episode thirty nine,
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  Speaker 1: the TikTok Ban Part two. Yes, but it was so interesting.
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  Speaker 1: You really hopefully educated our listeners and anyone else who
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  Speaker 1: is highly invested in TikTok. It's a different world for me,
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  Speaker 1: Like I don't know that world as much as I
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  Speaker 1: do like Instagram and Facebook, because it's your home base,
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  Speaker 1: like it's my home base, it's your community. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: everybody's your community, even the people on Facebook and Instagram
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  Speaker 1: and you too, but it's where you got your start.
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  Speaker 2: And it's my biggest platform.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I have, you know, a couple hundred thousand
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  Speaker 2: followers on Meta, like thirteen thousand followers on YouTube, but
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  Speaker 2: that's my fault. I haven't really grown YouTube and I'm trying. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and they're harder to have over a million followers on
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  Speaker 2: TikTok and bus. That's because where that's where I started, right,
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  Speaker 2: And it's just you know, you get used to a
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  Speaker 2: certain platform and a certain vibe the way it works,
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  Speaker 2: the way it works, you get comfortable.
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  Speaker 1: Plus, the algorithm is really special, and it is very special.
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  Speaker 2: It is very nuanced. It really gets to know you
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  Speaker 2: very very quickly, at a doubt, very quickly, and it
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  Speaker 2: is the most expensive and coveted piece of intellectual property
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  Speaker 2: in the world, which is why we are seeing happen
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  Speaker 2: what we are seeing happening.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So tell our listeners and anybody else who's interested
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  Speaker 1: what's gone down. And really it's just in a week, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Been oh my gosh, from Yeah. So we got the
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  Speaker 2: ruling from the Supreme Court on Friday, which honestly, I
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  Speaker 2: think flabbergacid me and most other people, because those of
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  Speaker 2: us that were very invested in listening to the oral
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  Speaker 2: arguments really felt like TikTok just provided such a good
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  Speaker 2: case for they were going to win. I did. I
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  Speaker 2: mean I fully expected, I at least expected a balanced ruling,
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  Speaker 2: because that's what the Supreme Court usually does. I mean
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  Speaker 2: they rarely uphold blanket bands, especially for anything that would
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  Speaker 2: violate free speech. I mean, this is really very, very
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  Speaker 2: shocking in terms of the history of our Supreme Court.
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  Speaker 1: So why do you think of that happened?
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  Speaker 2: I think it was rushed. I think the Supreme Court.
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  Speaker 2: The average age is I think like sixty or something
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  Speaker 2: like that. On the Supreme Court. I mean, they just
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  Speaker 2: don't understand TikTok. They have no idea anything about the platform,
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  Speaker 2: and so things like the economic impact, which would be outrageous.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it would literally be economy crashing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the number of small businesses?
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  Speaker 2: That seven million small businesses? I think they said that
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  Speaker 2: the GDP of TikTok in its direct impact was one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and twenty four billion dollars last year, But there's
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  Speaker 2: so much indirect impact that it's it's we can't even
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  Speaker 2: measure it, right. So like take, for example, somebody who
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  Speaker 2: is a travel blogger and they make money monetizing on
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  Speaker 2: TikTok because of their videos. That's direct impact, right, So
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  Speaker 2: they're not going to get money from TikTok. TikTok shuts down.
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  Speaker 2: But let's say they do a video about going to Nashville, Tennessee,
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  Speaker 2: and they hit all these really cool places and so
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  Speaker 2: people are like, Oh, you know what, I'd really like
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  Speaker 2: to go see Nashville, Like this looks really awesome. So
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  Speaker 2: then that person goes to Nashville and spends a ton
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  Speaker 2: of money. That's indirect impacts and we can't even measure that.
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  Speaker 2: And that's hundreds of billions of dollars which has been estimated.
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  Speaker 2: So the impact on the American economy would be massive, massive,
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  Speaker 2: and nobody is talking about that except a couple of
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  Speaker 2: people in Congress Representative Rocanna, Senator Ran Paul and Senator
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  Speaker 2: Ed Markey. Those are the only people talking about it,
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  Speaker 2: and they are actually actively putting legislation on the floor
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  Speaker 2: to try to repeal the law. And that is really
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  Speaker 2: really critical. People need to understand why that's happening. So essentially,
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  Speaker 2: if you don't know how this all happened. Back in
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  Speaker 2: Trump's first term, he tried to ban TikTok through executive order.
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  Speaker 2: Trump is and with remaining very politically neutral here as
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  Speaker 2: a libertarian. Trump his strategy is what's called door in
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  Speaker 2: the face. And you're in marketing, right, so you understand
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  Speaker 2: door in the face, which is like, you make this big,
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  Speaker 2: bold move, scare everybody, shock everybody, and then use it
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  Speaker 2: as a negotiating tool and tear down to tear it
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  Speaker 2: down right, to get one side to make a concession,
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  Speaker 2: so then you get your concessions. It's a very well
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  Speaker 2: known social psychological concept that's used in marketing and sales
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  Speaker 2: and deal making and everything. And that's Trump's primary strategy
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  Speaker 2: for deal making is throw something completely insane out there,
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  Speaker 2: get people to make a concession, and then you know,
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  Speaker 2: you take your concessions. So he did that not because
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  Speaker 2: I think he really wanted to ban TikTok, but because
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  Speaker 2: he wanted to try to get security provisions and he
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  Speaker 2: wanted to get a concession from China to make those provisions.
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  Speaker 2: And he did. He got Project Texas, which was supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be the data security solution that satisfied Congress to
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  Speaker 2: keep American data on American soil overseen by Americans so
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  Speaker 2: that we didn't have to worry about safety concerns with China.
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  Speaker 2: Right during Project Texas, the government just ghosted TikTok. They
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  Speaker 2: shoved this bill in the aid package to Ukraine, which
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  Speaker 2: was a sort of a bipartisan effort to get aid
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  Speaker 2: to Ukraine, which everybody in Congress was on board with,
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  Speaker 2: and so they snuck it in that bill.
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand that correlation.
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  Speaker 2: Why, because they knew that that's how it would get passed.
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  Speaker 2: Because Congress is sneaky and they do everything underhandedly. Right.
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  Speaker 1: It seems so unethical, it is, but that's just how
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  Speaker 1: they work.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why Americans have been for a long time shouting, no,
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  Speaker 2: we need single bills, you need to vote on single
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  Speaker 2: issue bills. We don't want any more of these fifteen
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  Speaker 2: hundred page bills with all this stuff stuck in them
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  Speaker 2: that nobody knows about.
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  Speaker 1: And who wants to read that anyway, right?
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  Speaker 2: And who can read that in like twenty four hours? Right?
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  Speaker 2: So they passed it through with literally no discussion, no
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  Speaker 2: discussion on the economic impact whatsoever, no discussion on the
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  Speaker 2: free speech rights. It was just, yeah, China's the problem.
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  Speaker 2: The only solution now is to ban it. You know,
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  Speaker 2: Project Texas isn't going to do the trick with no
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  Speaker 2: evidence that Project Texas wasn't doing what it was supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be doing. And you know, of course, then TikTok's
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  Speaker 2: takes it to the Supreme Court. That's what we talked
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  Speaker 2: about last time. If you want to hear a summary
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  Speaker 2: of the oral arguments and how that went down in
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  Speaker 2: the Supreme Court, go check out that episode. But bottom
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  Speaker 2: line is, we lost, and we lost big in the
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  Speaker 2: Supreme Court. And it was I mean when I was
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  Speaker 2: in the gym when the ruling came down, I was
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  Speaker 2: literally on scotis blog shout out to scotus blog on TikTok.
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  Speaker 2: I was sitting there in between sets, and I was
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  Speaker 2: just like paralyzed, like okay, what's this going to be?
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  Speaker 2: Because I thought for sure the Supreme Court would order
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  Speaker 2: a balanced ruling saying something like okay, well, you know
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  Speaker 2: the ban is constitutional, but first, you know, let's try
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  Speaker 2: these security measures and do audits, and if it shows
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  Speaker 2: that they violated you know, security through these audience audits,
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  Speaker 2: then they get banned, right, right, right, that's not what happened.
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  Speaker 2: They were just like they It was a nine zero ruling,
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  Speaker 2: which again is like what right, And they ruled as
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  Speaker 2: one voice in their in their brief that has a
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  Speaker 2: special term. I already forgot what it's called. But basically
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  Speaker 2: they said, yeah, uh, totally constitutional the end, like with
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  Speaker 2: really no discussion. I mean, the ruling was short, it.
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  Speaker 1: Was nor without looking at all the variables.
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  Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, they didn't even want to hear anything
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  Speaker 2: except the free speech argument. So you know, there were
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  Speaker 2: other ways that it could have been deemed unconstitutional, like
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  Speaker 2: through bill of attainder, but they didn't want to hear that.
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  Speaker 1: I thought the extension would happen. I thought that they
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  Speaker 1: would just like yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So that's another that's another thing. Right, some people don't
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  Speaker 2: understand why it went dark for about twelve hours and
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  Speaker 2: then it popped back.
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  Speaker 1: Is it true that the people who like deleted the
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  Speaker 1: app now they.
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  Speaker 2: Can't Yeah, they can't get it yet. It's not back
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  Speaker 2: up in the app store. Yeah. So my stepdaughter we
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  Speaker 2: got her new phone this weekend who she was hanging
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  Speaker 2: on to, like an iPhone twelve, and it wasn't updeating
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  Speaker 2: or anything. And now she doesn't have TikTok and she's like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I don't have TikTok, and I'm like sorry, like I
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  Speaker 2: don't know when it's gonna which is why this conversation
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  Speaker 2: is so important, right, yea. So essentially, you know that
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  Speaker 2: ruling came down. Everybody was just we all felt shattered. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Representative Rocanna shout out to him. He's a Democratic House
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  Speaker 2: of Representatives member who I believe he serves a district
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  Speaker 2: in California. He came forward, he chose about fifty creators
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  Speaker 2: to be part of sort of the voice of TikTok.
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  Speaker 2: I got chosen as one of those creators. So it
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  Speaker 2: was really it was like a whirlwind, right, like actually
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  Speaker 2: Congress like and like Senator Rocanna, like Senator Ed Markey,
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  Speaker 2: like there are people reaching out and being like okay,
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  Speaker 2: we want you on this meeting, and it's a closed meeting.
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  Speaker 2: You can't record it. And it was just me and
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  Speaker 2: Representative Conna and sort of some his staff and about
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  Speaker 2: fifty other creators. And I was looking on that screen
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  Speaker 2: and it was everybody I saw and on my FYP
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, I know you guys, without knowing
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  Speaker 2: you guys, you know it was like it was like
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  Speaker 2: having friends that I had never really truly met, but
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  Speaker 2: they were all big faces, big creators, and they were
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  Speaker 2: all panicking. They were like, you know, this is our life,
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  Speaker 2: this is our livelihood. And at every single turn, we
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  Speaker 2: had people telling us don't worry, this could never happen.
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  Speaker 2: The impact would be massive. The government couldn't take that
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  Speaker 2: kind of action. It would kill America, like overnight, don't worry,
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  Speaker 2: don't worry. And then at every turn we got knocked down. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and we were just like.
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  Speaker 1: And this call happened after having on Friday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, it happened on Friday, after the ruling.
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  Speaker 2: So I was contacted before the ruling, I think it
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  Speaker 2: was the day before on Thursday, saying hey, if you
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  Speaker 2: can be in this meeting, be in this meeting and
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  Speaker 2: here's the link and whatever. So in the meeting, I'm
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  Speaker 2: representative Conna. He sat with us, I mean he heard.
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  Speaker 2: He allowed us to just tell our stories. He allowed
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  Speaker 2: us to talk about what TikTok meant to us. He
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  Speaker 2: allowed us to talk about how it helped us, how
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  Speaker 2: we build communities, how we use our business on TikTok,
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  Speaker 2: and he really listened, which I was, you know, it
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  Speaker 2: was refreshing, Yeah, for a politician to sit there and
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  Speaker 2: really provide empathetic feedback and just let people talk as
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  Speaker 2: much as they needed to talk. And it was a
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  Speaker 2: slow moving meeting, but it was a really beautiful meeting
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  Speaker 2: to hear the creator's stories. I mean, people from who
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  Speaker 2: had escaped domestic violence and then now we're helping other
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  Speaker 2: people escape domestic violence. There were people who created companies
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  Speaker 2: because they had been laid off and they were going
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  Speaker 2: to get evicted, and so they just started doing you
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  Speaker 2: know things on TikTok and it saved them from being
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  Speaker 2: a victory had.
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  Speaker 1: Like COVID stories, you know, oh for sure, because I
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  Speaker 1: feel like that's kind of like when TikTok became really hot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's when I joined, was during COVID, And I
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  Speaker 2: was at the darkest point in my life when I
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  Speaker 2: joined TikTok and wasn't a creator on TikTok, but just
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  Speaker 2: looking for advice, looking for healing, looking for community. It
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  Speaker 2: served a really powerful purpose in my life during one
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  Speaker 2: of the darkest times of my life, and I know
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  Speaker 2: it did for literally millions of other people. Sure, And
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  Speaker 2: so what we learned in this meeting essentially was hey,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to put legislation on the floor to well,
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  Speaker 2: actually they had put legislation on the floor to just
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  Speaker 2: give the ninety day extent or just to give a
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  Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy day extension. It was basically real
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  Speaker 2: Hanna and Senator Ed Markey went to their respective Houses
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  Speaker 2: of Congress and said, listen, you guys don't really understand
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  Speaker 2: the massive economic impact of the American people that will
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  Speaker 2: happen overnight if this goes dark. We just need some
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  Speaker 2: more time. We need to think of something different. We
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  Speaker 2: need to figure out how to address these security concerns
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  Speaker 2: without just outright banning the most popular social media platform
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  Speaker 2: in the world and in America one hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 2: million users, that's half of the United States of America
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  Speaker 2: is on TikTok, half of our country. And so TikTok went.
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  Speaker 2: Call rey a Z when I tell you that TikTok
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  Speaker 2: was the coolest it has ever been. Before Friday the
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  Speaker 2: seventeenth and Saturday the eighteenth, before the ban, people were
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  Speaker 2: off the chains. Because essentially what happened was Joe Biden
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  Speaker 2: sort of through his team said you know, we won't
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  Speaker 2: enforce the law, but he didn't do his executive duty
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  Speaker 2: of actually putting pen to paper and signing the extension,
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  Speaker 2: which he totally could have done because offers were on
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  Speaker 2: the table, but he chose not to. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: I have very strong opinions about that move because it
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  Speaker 2: was the right thing to do for the American people,
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  Speaker 2: and he just he knew there were no repercussions. To him,
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  Speaker 2: he was like, I'm out seas.
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  Speaker 1: He threw up two middle fingers and said peace.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. He's like, I've had enough of y'all. I don't
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  Speaker 2: really care about TikTok. I'm done, Like so yeah, bay ye.
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  Speaker 2: He just basically said it's Trump's problem. Well, so that's
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  Speaker 2: why the band went into effect, because see, the service
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  Speaker 2: providers Apple, Google, other tech companies, they all have a
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  Speaker 2: hand in actually making the app function, not just having
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  Speaker 2: it on the app Store, but actually making the app
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  Speaker 2: work as it's supposed to work. And so what they
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: were worried about was somebody coming in after President Trump,
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  Speaker 2: like whoever's the next president after Trump? The statute of
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  Speaker 2: limitations to look back and punish those companies for ignoring
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  Speaker 2: the ban would have been astronomical in repercussion. It would
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  Speaker 2: have been five thousand dollars per TikTok user billions, So
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  Speaker 2: you're talking hundreds of billions of dollars, right, yea. And
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  Speaker 2: these companies were scared to death. They were like, yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 2: well Trump is saying it's no big deal, but whoever
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  Speaker 2: comes in after him, there's there's still that five year
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  Speaker 2: statute of limitation.
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  Speaker 1: So they had to go dark.
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  Speaker 2: That's why they went dark. And I don't blame them.
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  Speaker 2: As a business owner, I wouldn't have risked that either,
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  Speaker 2: right me.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have risked bankruptcy, which all I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if Apple can be bankrupt. I don't know our Google.
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  Speaker 2: I mean maybe, I don't know. It would take something,
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  Speaker 2: and it take something very massive. Yeah, actually that probably would. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean it would probably definitely put a yeah for sure.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean they're just not gonna risk that, right.
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  Speaker 2: So what Trump did was he came in and he said, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: Biden won't do it. I'm going to promise you, cross
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  Speaker 2: my heart that The very next day, the twentieth, so
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  Speaker 2: the band happened at pretty much midnight on the nineteenth,
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  Speaker 2: he said, I will sign an executive order saying that
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  Speaker 2: you can't be punished retroactively, so old show too. The
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  Speaker 2: CEO of TikTok is like good enough for me, bruh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know. And so then everybody said, okay, we believe you.
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  Speaker 2: They popped it back up. Now there's been a lot
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  Speaker 2: of rumors that it's quote not the same as it was.
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  Speaker 2: People are saying their algorithms aren't the same, blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 2: There's been all of these crazy rumors like that Meta
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  Speaker 2: bought it and we're on Meta servers. We're not on
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  Speaker 2: Meta servers. Okay, Meta did not buy TikTok. Meta is
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  Speaker 2: not accessing TikTok or your algorithm. So let's just let's
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  Speaker 2: just clear the air, dispel the rumor. It's not the case.
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  Speaker 2: But I will admit the algorithm went funky. Really, but
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  Speaker 2: why did it do that? There's two possibilities. One is
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  Speaker 2: there was some data loss through the ban, right, so
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  Speaker 2: essentially all of your followers stayed put. Everything stayed put,
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  Speaker 2: But TikTok sort of forgot who you were, right, and
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  Speaker 2: so your algorithm is trying to build itself again from scratch.
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  Speaker 2: It's trying to get to know you. It's trying to
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  Speaker 2: see what you interact with. And I found personally that
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  Speaker 2: my algorithm came back very quickly. That's good, right, So
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  Speaker 2: after interacting with the app, over the course of a
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  Speaker 2: day or two, all the stuff that I liked, all
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  Speaker 2: the people that I liked, were back on my for
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  Speaker 2: you page. Other people were saying, oh, no, Trump's suppressing
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  Speaker 2: or censoring information. Trump hadn't even made a deal yet.
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  Speaker 2: It's still in the hands of byte Dance, So if
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  Speaker 2: anything happened, it was byte Dance. And actually that was
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  Speaker 2: the argument the government was making. So how about you
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  Speaker 2: hush up about that? Yeah, okay, because there are the
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  Speaker 2: argument that government was trying to make is that Bydance
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  Speaker 2: was messing with the algorithm. So let's not put that
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  Speaker 2: paranoia out there right right. The fact of the matter
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  Speaker 2: is mine came back very quickly. It probably had to
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: do just with the fact.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: That twelve hours in social media world, that's a long time.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: That's a long time, right, And no, no, no activity.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: We don't know exactly how they shut it down and
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: put it back up, Like, is it just a switch
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: you flip? Like, I don't think so. I think there's
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: probably a lot of different things that had happened to
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: take it down technologically right, and so where are we
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: right now? Well, it's back up right. And that happened
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: because literally we got one point three million signatures from
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Americans in twenty four hours that got put on President
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Biden's desk. Again, he didn't act, but Trump took that seriously.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: He said. His comments were basically like, well, I ran
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: on listening to the will of the people. This looks
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: like it's the will of the people. So I'm going
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: to follow through. But here's the thing. So for everybody
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: thinks that that Trump was the savior or is the savior,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: yes he was in a way, but also there's.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Some still pending.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, all he did was sign a seventy five day
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: extension to make a deal. The fact that we even
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: have to make a deal sucks. The deal that he
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: wants to make politically, I believe is pretty genius. I
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: have some concerns with it personally. So the deal that
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: he has been talking about was essentially the fact that
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: he met with the Chinese president ge and he said,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: you know, okay, give me the story, and apparently the
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Chinese president said, well, without TikTok, America TikTok is worth
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: basically nothing. So if you make the deal, because in
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: the law it says the president has the sole power
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: to determine what the divestit your deal looks like. So
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: if President Trump gives an approval to the deal, TikTok
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: remains worth like a trillion dollars. So America is the
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: heart of TikTok. There's no denying that if America goes away,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: TikTok is gonna flounder. Yeah, right, So basically China's going
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: to lose a lot of money. Right, Well, I should
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: say China twenty percent of Byteedance is gonna lose money,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: you know, And which is the portion owned by Chinese
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: nationalists by Dance isn't even owned by China, It's owned
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: by multinational investors, so that that's a whole nother argument.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: But bottom line is, China's president said it's worth nothing
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: without you guys, We're willing to bargain, So Donald Trump
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: without officially signing anything, because that's what Trump does again,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: he throws out big things, which is usually never the
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: final result because that's his negotiating strategy. And hey, I'm
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: not him, so I'm not going to comment on whether
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: you know, he seems to be pretty effective with it.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know, just a little.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's pretty effective with it, but it also scares
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: the crap out of everybody sometimes. But so here's what
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: I'll say. He wants the United States government to own
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: half of TikTok Usa and Byte Dance would own the
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: other half. So essentially we'd be fifty to fifty partners
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: with by Dance. We would invest no money, and then
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: we would get fifty percent of the profits, and those
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: profits could pay off the national debt. I mean, could
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: significantly pay down the national debt.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: It should be huge, which.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Would be huge, right, because we're in massive mass and
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: massive debts. Yeah, it's insane. So historically America or the
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: United States government has intervened in private companies when there's
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: been massive economic impact, like when they need a bailout,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: or when there were security concerns, like in two thousand
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: and eight. I believe under President Obama, the United States
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: purchased half of General Motors because they needed a bail outright,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: so we invested like millions and millions of dollars and
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: then we lost like ten billion dollars on that deal.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: So yes, we saved the auto industry, but at the
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: expense of massively increasing the national debt, and so that
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: was like a bad deal, right, Like, in some ways
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: maybe it was necessary, I guess, to save the auto industry,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: but in the end we ended up losing money. But
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: in this deal, we're not putting up any money, and
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: TikTok Usa is worth a trillion dollars.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: So what's your concern?
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, my concern is all that sounds really great, right.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: My concern is as a libertarian, I don't want the
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: government in any of my business. I don't want the
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: government to own any of my speech platforms. I don't
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: want the government. I don't want the in my business
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: at all, like as little as humanly possible, because I
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: think we've all seen what happens when government gets too
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: big and has too much reach, power and power, right,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Which is interesting, and it's why sometimes I can agree
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: with conservatives and sometimes I can agree with liberals. It
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: just depends on what are we fighting for, and if
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: it has to do with fighting for liberty, fighting for rights,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: I'm on board, right, which I think that's why people
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: on my page they always keep trying to figure me
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: out like, oh, you vote for trum you vote for
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you don't know what I've done. You have
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: no idea, You're not going to be able to tell
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: about people to keep it that way, and I'm going
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: to keep it that way because frankly, it's none of
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: your business.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: But I am very critical of all politicians. Yeah, I
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: don't think we should trust any of them. I mean
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: constructively critical, constructively critical, right, I mean, like, you know,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: let's take Representative Conna. I am so thankful for him.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: He's a Democrat. I don't agree with him on everything politically,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: I don't. There are therapodees he makes that some of
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: it makes me cringe about his policies, right, but then
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: other things, I'm like jumping for joy at. I'm like,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: this is a great idea. I'm for ideas, not ideologies.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: And I really wish America would be that way because
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: we were so cool in two days. In two days,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: we were America against the government, and we were so
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: cool because red and blue were coming together, they were talking,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: we were being friends, everybody was paling around, we were
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: like locked arms. And then Trump took office and it
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: went back to everybody hating each other, and that made
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: me so sad.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: It doesn't make me sad too, it does.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Like my page is just full of like either pro
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Trump branded Trump, and I'm like, why does it have
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: to be this way? Why can't it just be the
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: bottom versus the top, the American people versus the system
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: of government that we know is no longer working for us.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: We know that Congress doesn't care about us, that they
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: only care about their lobbying money, and they only care.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: About institutions being created. That's the basis of the Constitution. Yeah,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: the people against.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: The government, and they wrote it to really protect the
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: people against the government. But we're find in all sorts
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: of ways to squirm around it. And it's scary. It's
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: so scary. And Rand Paul he's our senator from Kentucky,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: so here in Kentucky we're probably a lot more familiar
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: with Rand Paul than some people are. He is also
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: a libertarian, so a lot of people think he's a conservative.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: He's not. He's a libertarian. I mean, if you have
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: to pick a party as a libertarian, you could pick
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: either one, because libertarian views are about do whatever you want,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: just don't hurt anybody, right, We believe you should have
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: complete freedom to be who you are to do what
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: you want right, and so that does not fit at
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: all on either side of the aisle. But Ran Paul
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: is I believe he's in the Republican Party and he's
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: very very anti TikTok ban, and he actually joined TikTok
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: out of civil disobedience the day before the ban, and
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: he got like hundreds of thousands of followers in like
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: thirty minutes. Wild yeah, because he was like, I'm just
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: making this video because I'm being civilly disobedient to the government. Yeah. Yeah,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: a great job, Rand Paul. We would love to have
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: you on the pod if you would be willing to
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: be on the pod and support your support your state.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: So essentially okay. The next step is that Rand Paul
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: and Rocanna now are co sponsoring a new bill to
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: actually repeal the band law because they're saying, we never
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: debated it, will you never considered the economic impact of
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: the American people. This got rushed through. Nobody knew what
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: it meant or what it was doing. Y'all aren't even
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: on TikTok except the handful of hypocrites that are that
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: still voted for the ban, and man, trust me, they're done.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, so so sorry Corey Booker, but you're not
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: going to get re elected, like everybody hates you on TikTok,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Tom Cotton, You're done, Like it's not going to happen. Literally,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: all of TikTok was for two straight days, was every
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: millions and millions and millions of videos roasting these members
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: of Congress. Then bye, yeah, but bye, you're not coming back.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: But the new legislation is essentially saying we did not
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: do the American people the due diligence of really discussing
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: how we could keep this platform while also addressing security concerns.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: It's a content based ban. You're not fooling anyone now.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: And even the people that spoke up against the extension
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: law they tried to propose which I didn't even get
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: into that. So right before all this happened again, Conna
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: and Marky put that two hundred and seventy day extension
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: and it had to go through union animous vote of
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: the Senate because Senate legislation, you know, there's a process,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: has to be a committee, then it has to go
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: you know, through all these different steps. The only way
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: you can get something passed quickly in the Senate is
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: if you take it up for unanimous vote, meaning that
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: every single member of the Senate just has to sit
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: there and be quiet when they say, hey, I want
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: to pass this through unanimous vote. So Ed Marky stood up,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: he said, I want to pass this extension on unanimous vote.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: One dude stood up and oppose it. Everybody else was cool.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Everybody else sat there quietly except one dude, and that
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: was Tom Cotton. And if you go to TikTok and
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: you search Tom Cotton, everybody everybody was like, your dude, Yeah,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: you're done. You are the most fun cool person who
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: has ever walked this earth. You cannot sit with us,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah you are. And everybody from Arkansas was like by
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: like you were done. And he's the guy that, if
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: you remember watching the TikTok hearings, grilled the TikTok ceo like,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: are you from China? And he's like, no, I'm Singaporean. Yeah,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: have you ever been affiliated with a Chinese Communist party? No,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: I'm from Singapore. Have you ever had a Chinese passport? No,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: I'm Singaporean. And just because the guy looked Asian, you
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: could tell he was being so racist against him because
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: he was of Asian descent. It was its blatantly obvious,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: and that he just didn't understand the difference between China
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: and Singapore.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: It's like that episode in the Hill. Yeah, so are
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: you Chinese or Japan? Yeah?
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, we can't, we can't. It's
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: it's twenty twenty five. Why are we not? How can
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: we be that blatantly racist towards somebody openly.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Especially somebody's who has awful who has that much power?
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Right? And I mean I get it that China is
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: our adversary, sure, but Chinese government is our adversary. The
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: people of China aren't our adversaries. They shouldn't be at
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: least you're right. You know, it's like, okay, our governments
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: are allowed to hate each other, but we shouldn't be
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: forced to hate other people. No, that's ridiculous. AnyWho, So
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: what now?
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: So?
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: What now? Is there is a petition. If you type
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: in TikTok petition, you need to sign the petition that
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: is the petition to repeal the TikTok ban.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Because right now we're just sitting on seventy five days.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: We're sitting on seventy five days, and yes, do I
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: believe Trump is going to make a deal. Yeah, of
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: course he's going to make a deal. But is that
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: deal better than no deal? No, it's not. What we
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: want is for everything to stay the same and for
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Project Texas and maybe additional security measures to be put
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: in place. But we don't want to lose the algorithm.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: And you know, as much as the United States could
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: potentially economically benefit from owning part of TikTok, I think
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: that that's just that is a little bit of a
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: slippery slope that we just would have to see, right.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, our government has way too much power. It
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: just has too much power, and we've all seen what
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: happens now when it does. And so I think what
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: we need to do. You need to sign the petition,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: and you need to call your congressman, please call email
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: find out who your House of Representative representatives are. Find
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: out who your senators are. If you don't know, call them,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: email them and ask them to please vote for the
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: legislation to repeal the TikTok ban, because that is the
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: only true way it can be kept safe. Whoever comes
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: in after Trump could restructure the deal and then TikTok
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: could be banned all over again. So we are not
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: done with the spuis. We're right, and we don't want
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: to go through it again in four years, and we
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: actually might have a chance to preserve what's really special
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: about TikTok before other entities come in and overtake it
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: and put their hand in it. So I beg of
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: you if you care about our First Amendment rights. This
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: is such a gross violation of our First Amendment rights.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: And listen, every time the government has ever taken power,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: it's always been under the guise of national security, and
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: they never give it back. And so if we just
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: sit back and stand there and watch them take our
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: constitutional rights away from us, they will not stop.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this isn't and I think that's important to really
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: hone in on. It's not about the app.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: It's not about the app. It's about our freedom.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's about our First Amendment right, the most important one. Yeah,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: because when you don't have speech, then everything.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Else goes, everything else falls with it.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So please please. Obviously I'm not as vested in
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: TikTok as you are as a creator, but I know
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of people are that just go oh, many people.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I learned how to cook sourdough on TikTok. I learned
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: how to take care of my chickens on TikTok. Like,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: it's this educational platform that I think has just helped
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: people in such a tremendous way.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: It has it's given people financial freedom, it's given people community,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: it's amplified organic voices that have not been able to
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: grow on other platforms, and it's given people an opportunity
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: to literally get out of poverty. Yeah, and we are
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: taking that right away. We are taking people's right to
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: free expression away. We are taking away the right for
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: people to receive information where they want to receive it
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: from away. I am shocked, I am disappointed. I am
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: flabbergasted at the Supreme Court. But I think that is
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: just never a guarantee. They essentially what they did was
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: they just said, yeah, we trust that Joe Biden made
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: the right call. We can't make national security decisions, so
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: we just have to punt it back to the executive
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: branch and say we trust that whatever they said was true. Right,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: And we knew that was a possibility, but we hope,
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: we were hopeful they would be a little more invested
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: and do a little more digging, Yeah, and really investigate
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: the situation further. But essentially we put them under a
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: time crunch and we gave them a couple.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Days, and nothing happens quickly in the government.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I used to TikTok. That happened to Uber quick which
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: shows you that the government can do things quickly if
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: they want to.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: But without looking at all the evidence are the variables,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: So you know, I mean essentially I used to work
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: for the federal government, and so I learned, you know,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: nothing is done quickly. In fact, when I went from
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: working for iHeart, you know, this very corporate America company
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: that was all technology based, into the federal government landscape,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: it was amazing how far behind they were just on
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: every level technology wise. I mean, it was like I
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: had stepped back ten years a decade.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Wow. So that's insane.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Again, just enough valid point to say that the federal
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: government just probably doesn't know that much about technology.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: They don't and they don't know jack about TikTok. No, No,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: they don't know jack about it. They don't know what
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: it does. You know, they asked the domeest questions in
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: the hearing, you know, last march or whatever. Does TikTok
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: connect to the Wi Fi? Some of them were calling
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: it tiktac like they just didn't. It was like these
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: freaking boomers.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Like, I not hating on the boomers in any way,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: not hate.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Any boomers, but like, let's admit that your generation doesn't
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: know technology as well as the younger ones. Can we
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: at least do?
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know technology as well as my son.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know technology as well as my daughter. Yeah,
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: so let's just face it. The younger generations understand the
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: tech better than we do. And that's how it's always been,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: as probably how it's always going to be right. They're
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: more vested in it, they use it, when they grow
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: up with it. They grow up with it right. And
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: so what was so disappointing is just that these senators
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: were so blatantly ignorant and they're not listening to the
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: will of the American people. And we can't be okay
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: with that anymore. So I'll just end it on that. Yeah.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Well, and you know, again, think about what you've been
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: able to do. You're you know, you're out here, You're
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: you've got a platform, you're helping people save their relationships.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: You're teaching godly love, and I mean, would you have
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: ever really been able to do it with the reach
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: that you have without TikTok No.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: The answer to that is a clear now.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: So please go sign the petition again. You can search.
• 36:00
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